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September 9, 2025 • 37 mins

Jason and Mike react to the Bills comeback win over the Ravens and explain why they aren't surprised by the Ravens collapse on Sunday night. The guys react live to the Vikings getting a comeback win over the Bears on Monday night and put Ben Johnson under fire for his poor head coaching debut. Plus, the guys give credit to JJ McCarthy in his NFL debut.

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We started the show an hour ago. Bears have just
had a pick six. Seventeen to six was the score.
JJ McCarthy terrible, Caleb Williams is moving the team. Everything
was fine. Here we are an hour later, the Vikings
have a twenty to seventeen lead and they just blocked
a punt and they take over at the Bears twenty

(01:12):
nine or they take over at their own thirty one
yard line. They got a piece of the punt, got
a good role. But now the Vikings have the ball
and the lead with seven and a half left to go.
They've been running on the Bears for the past few
minutes and now another big run by Mason who goes
through the line for about twenty yards. It almost feels
like Mike that the Bears got that pick six and

(01:34):
the game was over, Like we just have to execute
the rest of the game. We don't need to go crazy.
We just have to, you know, take time off the
clock because the Vikings can't do anything right. And as
you see, look one thing I've seen in the NFL
the Leears. I've been watching it. If you think the
game is over and you keep giving that other team
that can't do anything chances, eventually they're gonna find something.
And they did. They're able to run the football. Mccarsy's

(01:57):
thrown a couple he's not still having a great game,
but he's thrown a couple of touchdowns. But you could
see the confidence and the karma switch in this game.
The Vikings have it. The Bears last possession was terrible.
Caleb Williams threw a pass after he stepped out of
bounds a big third and fourteen. He threw to nobody,
an incomplete pass. The Vikings are honking it up on
the field everywhere. The Bears are looking at each other

(02:18):
saying what the hell happened to us? I mean the
body language, it felt like, Oh the Bears seventeen to six,
it's over. We've been working them the entire game. But
when you can't continue on, when you can't hold onto
the football, you can't get down the field, and you
keep giving the ball back to the team, Eventually they're
gonna have enough possessions to get back in it. And
not only the Vikings got back in it, they've taken
control of the game.

Speaker 3 (02:38):
Yeah, we go back.

Speaker 4 (02:39):
To the middle of the third quarter where you have
the missed field goal on off a six play I'm sorry,
eleven play, forty four yard drive, fifty yard knuckleball, and
it changed from there now point of clarification, deflected punt. So,
fantasy owners, you ain't getting two points. It went past
the line of scrimmage. You ain't getting it. Okay, so

(03:00):
planned to your commissioner, But you get nothing and they'll
have to like it. But all of that to say,
I mean, we watched some really bad sequencing by the
Bears at the end of the third quarter. Caleb Williams
reverting to some of those bad habits of the would
be coming out of college scrambles, running backwards, twisting, turning
and creating chaos. He had an intentional grounding play which

(03:21):
was just terrible again twisting, turning, and then as he's
falling to the ground going to throw it and woefully
short of the line of scrimmage. We were talking to
Jason locking for when he threw that heater to Cole Kmet,
who was wide open, sailed it over his head, which
should have been an easy first down completion. Just one

(03:42):
mistake after another big holding penalty, you have the missfield goal,
and just on and on, we've three and outs, got
away with one on a side arm throw inside their
own ten where Van Ginkle gets a hand on it.
Probably should have caught it and run it back for
six but fourth quarter yards they just flashed the graphic
one hundred and twenty six to minus one.

Speaker 1 (04:02):
Isn't one mistake after? Isn't that that Leo movie? I
keep seeing commercials four, but I don't understand what it's about.

Speaker 4 (04:07):
Yeah, I have no idea, but I'm in the one
mistake after another. I think that's really kind of what
it is. Yeah, but I go to the movies a lot.
So between that and that Channing Tatum movie, I think
I've already seen both movies.

Speaker 3 (04:22):
Oh okay, well you know the Leo movie.

Speaker 1 (04:24):
Just I'm like, okay, So apparently he's some sort of
he's an operative or a former operative, and and there's
there's a kidnapping of some kind. But there's quirky characters
in it. It looks like a Wes Anderson movie, but
it's a Paul Thomas Anderson movie. And I go, okay,
one one failure after another, Okay, that's great. Yes, one battle,
I know what's one battle after on? One failure after another.

(04:45):
That's kind of seeing what it sounds like.

Speaker 4 (04:47):
Uh yeah, the Tale of two half's and McCarthy's only
had to be great on two or three throws. And
now they've got wide open spaces. Aaron Jones with the
early catch for the touchdown on that earlier possession this
quarter and out wide open in the flat as McCarthy
rolls to the right. Boy, he looks like an all
Pro quarterback. The last eight or nine minutes of this game.
I'm gonna say this.

Speaker 1 (05:07):
We talked about Kevin O'Connell and how, hey, if McCarthy's
not good, and all the different things that happened with that.
But I am gonna I do want to say this
is that it was a brilliant decision down seventeen to six. Generally,
you say, well, we got to find a way to
throw the football. Let's let him keep throwing. That's how
we're going to get back in this. But the Vikings
do it. There's a lot of time we're shutting the

(05:29):
you know, we're slowly siphoning off the faucet for the
Bears so we can still run the We know we
can run the football on this team.

Speaker 3 (05:38):
Let's just keep running.

Speaker 1 (05:39):
Whether the Bears aren't were ready for it to thought that,
you know, they had them off balance, But the fact
the Vikings kept running the football and kept trying to
build drives that way and then ask McCarthy to make
one or two throws, which is kind of why he
succeeded at Michigan. Hey, we're going everybody else do the
heavy lifting. Just make one or two plays in the drive.
That's all we need you to do. And that's kind
of what happened. That that's a that's a brilliant and

(06:01):
it's a tough decision to make in a heat of
the moment when you look at the scoreboard. We're down ten,
we're down eleven. We need to go, need to get back.
Throw the football, Throw the football. No, let's run it.
We know we can do it. And that's what's really
gotten him back in this and really settled the game
and tilted it back to the Viking. So try to
slow things down and give him better down distance opportunities.
We cited all of the third down failures. The average

(06:21):
distance on those third down plays was nearly ten yards, right,
So you weren't doing anything effectively on the early downs incompletions,
some negative plays early on. So getting yourself going now
up to twenty two carries as a team for just
over one.

Speaker 4 (06:37):
Hundred yards of fun average the Bears. For all the
success that Williams had, you've had three chunk plays. There
was a thirty yard or to Dj Moore, Zychais with
a sixteen yarder and an a Dounday seventeen yards sit
down to catch. But other than that, it's the short intermediate,
looking a lot like the shot chart of a year ago,
except completions instead of sacks.

Speaker 3 (06:59):
That's fine.

Speaker 4 (07:00):
And once things got a little awry for the Bears
here and the third into the fourth reverting to some
of those bad habits and opening the door. And McCarthy,
to his credit right having been in a number of
big games collegiately, is a national champion, and Justin Jefferson,
go make plays right, that's it right, create space with

(07:23):
the run game. You do have a depleted Bear secondary.
We knew that coming into the game, and you're starting
to see more and more space with the play calls
and the selections that they're coming up with.

Speaker 1 (07:34):
So we'll have more in this game coming up in
a few minutes again, twenty to seventeen, the vikings with
the football and JJ McCarthy has just scrambled into the
end zone on a design run from about fifteen yards out.
All of a sudden, he's got a big fantasy game.

Speaker 4 (07:48):
JJ McCarthy, Yeah, he's like gonna be the number one
quarterbacks twenty So I remember Rogers had four bleeping touchdowns
twenty six seventeen is the score now, and I can't
get over how bad things have gotten for the Bears
in the span of one hour.

Speaker 1 (08:04):
Like, I mean, this is a fan base now in
an hour, is gonna go what has happened to us?
What just happened to us in the last hour.

Speaker 4 (08:11):
I'd have my brothers call in from the stadium, but
you're gonna have so many ambient f bombs that we
wouldn't be.

Speaker 3 (08:16):
Able to play it.

Speaker 1 (08:17):
I mean it, man, all of a sudden that you
talk about a fan base that's ready to just turn
on them, like like forget like what we saw the
Cowboys do this summer when the Micah Parsons trade went down,
and how much of they hate their team more than
they hated the Eagles, Like I think Bears fans are
at that point right now. I hate my team more
than I hate the Vikings and these other teams. Well,
but you know, hope is a dangerous thing. We always

(08:39):
talk about it, right, it could be the best thing,
It could be a dangerous thing. You get up seventeen
to six. You heard the roar of the crowd on
that pick six.

Speaker 4 (08:46):
I mean that's about as loud as Soldier field has
been non concert related in a very very long time
to where things were going, well, they're moving the football.

Speaker 3 (08:55):
Was it clean? No, was it great?

Speaker 4 (08:57):
No, not a lot of chunk yardage, But you're not
having the negative plays. You're not having those issues. And
then just in a span of twelve fifteen about seventeen
game minutes, it's all gone to hell. And now you're
inside of three minutes, you got three straight touchdown drives
for the Vikings after what was a miserable start. Go
back to halftime, the interview they had with Ben Johnson

(09:19):
coming out of the locker room. You had two plays
in that first half, a pass interference and the pass
to Nailer that gave them a field goal try six points.
And then the second half and it started just as
meagerly and just as slowly, and just like that, the
train now is.

Speaker 1 (09:36):
Rolling exit out about a Fresco exit swallow double off.
More of this game coming up in a few minutes.
So now the Bears trailing by ten with three minutes
left to go, The Vikings are going to win this game,
and wow is the postgame gonna be fun? But for
a little bit on last night's game, right, I mean really.
I agree. We may never see a game the rest

(09:56):
of this year as good as the Bills come back
win over the Ravens.

Speaker 3 (09:59):
Right, forty one forty for.

Speaker 1 (10:01):
The Bills, I feel about the same I mean, an
unbelievable game, but I feel about the same way.

Speaker 3 (10:05):
Hey, I feel a little bit better about.

Speaker 1 (10:06):
Their offense after last night, not as much about their
defense as last night. But the thing for the Ravens, right,
You're up forty to twenty five midway through the fourth
quarter and you can't find a way to win. And
all day and all last night, you've seen people pointing
to different things. This is what costs in the game,
whether it's the punt, Derrick Henry's fumble, so many different

(10:27):
things you point to. Right, why are you tackling Kean
Coleman inside the ten yard line? Let him get into
the end zone so you can get the ball back,
Like all of these things. There's so many mistakes. Right,
But this goes back to when we picked this game
on Friday. What did I tell you I'm picking the
Ravens if it was in the playoffs. I'm picking the
Bills because the Ravens find a way to not make

(10:47):
it happen when the chips are down. Usually regular season
they're okay. The playoffs is when it happens. But you
want to break something down and say, Okay, what is
this all boiled down to is that the Ravens aren't winners,
and it and it, and it gives you much more
of a respect and admiration for what guys like Andy
Reid and Bill Belichick have been able to do for

(11:09):
the past twenty five years, where no matter what the situation,
we find a way to close out the game and win.
What is this the ninth loss that the Ravens have
had when their percentage chance of winning was over ninety
percent in the fourth quarter? Like the ninth loss? And
this is all under John Harbaugh, right, this is all
hardball is the one constant now he's been there forever.
Those are going to pile up the team. But being

(11:30):
clutch is a thing. Being winners is a thing, and
the Ravens just aren't. They find a way to lose
games that And it's it's not like it's one thing.
It's not like well, all of a sudden, Lamar like
Lamar Jackson sometimes turns the football over. Sometimes it's like
last night sometimes it's other turnovers. But no matter what,
the bottom line is. The one thing that draws a
line through this is that they're just not clutched. They're

(11:53):
just not winners. They don't know how to close out
games and win big games. They can't do it. And
and that goes to the top of the coaching staff
because you can sit here and say, look, how talented
this Ravens roster is. Right, I can't look back and
tell you that the Patriots roster was more talented or
the Chiefs rosters more talented. But I know they're better
coach because I've seen them execute the end of games

(12:13):
in times when we should have lost this game, or
we could have lost this game, but we found a
way to win. I watched Belichick do it for the
better part of twenty years, and I watched Andy redo
it for the better part of the last eight finding
a way, yes, because we have a great quarterback. But
you know what, they have a great quarterback too, So
it's not like Suley, Well, you know, we're playing with
Trent Dilford, You're playing with Lamar Jackson. But being a
winner and being winners is a thing, and the Ravens

(12:35):
just aren't well.

Speaker 4 (12:35):
We saw a number of plays on the offensive side
that left you scratching your head in terms of and look,
we don't know the game plan and what the sequencing is,
but then we see what's called on the field and
we have to judge it thusly in terms of running
out the clock. It's like the Bears after taking the
seventeen to six lead, like, don't change what you're doing right.

(12:56):
This helped build the lead, obviously aided by the pick six,
But when we look at what the Ravens have done consistently,
is those final minutes a game. Suddenly the defense goes
soft and you're giving up giant patches of grass to
receivers in the open field. And Josh Allen's gonna make
his plays. You've got to be able to keep him

(13:19):
contained and time and again we see this with Alan,
with other quarterbacks, where they're given ample time to operate.
Almost any quarterback, I can't say all of them, but
almost any starter is gonna have a level of success.

Speaker 3 (13:32):
And it takes nothing away from Josh Allen.

Speaker 4 (13:34):
We saw some of the you know, little gadgetry that
he had right his hands behind his back, telling telling
Cook where to run out of play as they're barking
out and then he runs untouched for well, basically like
a kid through a flower patch. But for John Harbaugh,
we've asked this question oftentimes regardless of sports, like how

(13:55):
long does a championship keep you employed? How long do
miss is keep you employed? When you have these kind
of endings to game. Now it's week one, but it's
indicative of what we've seen time and again from this squad.
And when they leave the door open, guess what people
keep crashing in. And Derek Henry's fumble, I mean after

(14:16):
the game, he had, Oh yeah, that just one of
those Okay, what are you gonna do? You still need
to go out and make plays, right, and your defense
just gave up. They got carved all over the place. Noah,
you had the tip drill to call him in. That's
an unfortunate deflection that finds his arms in the end zone.
But still you've got to be able to close things out.
And time and again we're watching this Baltimore Ravens team.

(14:39):
For as much as you've got this every superlative we
can throw on Lamar Jackson's name, he's being betrayed by
his coaching staff time and again. Yeah, it's it really
is something because it's if it was one thing time
and again, Hey, you really have to get that running
back right, you have to get that start running back
to take time off the Okay, we went out, got
Derek Henry's great. Guess what still blew it?

Speaker 3 (14:58):
Right.

Speaker 1 (14:59):
It's like they just don't They just don't have that
because clutch is a thing, right, Being clutch is a thing.
We've seen it time and again in sports when the
game gets really weird and it's some people, it slows
down for some coaches, it slows down for some teams,
it slows down for and the Ravens just don't have
that from the top of the organization down. How many
games are they blown like this in the last seven

(15:20):
eight years, right, I told you the number. It's like
nine of them. And they're big games. They're big games
in the playoffs. They're going home for the season because
they can't figure out what with this.

Speaker 4 (15:28):
So you're also staring and you're doing the Spider Man
meme McDermott because it's been the same thing. On the
other side. They might have not finishing right, but McDermott
won last name, but he also did a first right.
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thirty five rushing yards in the game, and again that

(15:50):
scrambled that Lamar Jackson had early in the game was
a level of absurdity unseen other than video games. Teams
doing those two things forty plus points, two hundred threwenty
five plus rushing yards two hundred and seventy seven in
zero including the playoffs.

Speaker 3 (16:06):
Before last night.

Speaker 1 (16:07):
I mean, it's just an absolute thing that they've never had.
They're not winners. No coffee, they're not winners. Not closing.

Speaker 3 (16:15):
This is like it's not even closing.

Speaker 1 (16:17):
It's just, hey, don't spill the coffee when I bring
it to you.

Speaker 3 (16:21):
It's not like that's like a crime. That's when so
much spills the beer, Like you can't do it.

Speaker 1 (16:25):
Look, no, dude, it's different if this was the Ravens. Hey,
in close games, they can't find a way to get
that squad. But this is when they have the lead
or they just have to execute or just don't throw
up on yourself. Nope, can't do it, can't do it.
We can't do we, we can't find a way to win.
And that's a huge, huge thing. I'm telling you. There's
organizations that are winners. The Patriots winners for two decades,
the Chiefs have been winners for the better part of

(16:47):
the last ten years, and the Ravens just aren't winners.
And that's how it goes. Exit ab out a fresca
exit swallendomoof more in this game coming up in a
bit right now. Things getting a little interesting in Chicago.
Caleb Williams scrammbles what looks to be for a touchdown
from about twenty yards out. However, a flag on the
play just shy the two minute warning. The Bears trail

(17:09):
the Vikings twenty seven to seventeen. We'll have more on
this coming up. In a bit of very nervous Ben
Johnson probably wondering, you know, if I go back to
Detroit now, would anybody really say no, anybody really get upset,
because like I feel like Detroit chats me, yeah, and
maybe I want to get out of here. So again,
we'll have updated on this right now. Flag down on
the play as well. They're checking to see if Caleb

(17:29):
Williams crossed and it looks like with the football it
looks like it, but they're gonna Boy that angle is
kind of close, so we'll see as we come back.
We got the two minute warning coming up as well.
Straight ahead, are we breaking down an incredible Bears comeback
snatching a victory from the jaws of defeat from a
game they had won before? Or is it gonna be

(17:51):
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Speaker 1 (18:51):
Wow Man, I mean wow wow Wow.

Speaker 3 (18:57):
Channeling my owner Seth Rods.

Speaker 1 (19:00):
The change in the bears fortunes in the last ninety minutes.
Not only is it bad enough they're gonna blow this
game to the Vikings, but now I wonder if being
a head coach is too much for Ben Jonson who. Okay,
the Bears get a touchdown to cut the lead to
twenty seven to twenty four. Okay, if they get a

(19:22):
touchdown pastor Roma dunesa. DJ Moore leaves the game with
a bit of an injury. Not sure what it is
with him, But Bears get in the end zone. Two
to two left in the game. Okay, Bears have one timeout,
one time out. Okay, one timeout one so two oh
two left in the game.

Speaker 3 (19:39):
Hmm. You have two choices.

Speaker 1 (19:41):
You can on side kick, which is probably what you
should have done, because again one time out, or kick it.
Make sure you kick it through the end zone or
kick it out of bounds, because you know what's gonna happen,
which is the Vikings are gonna run the ball out
of the end zone to take it down to the
two minute warning, because what the Bears you're hoping for
is the kick. They don't run it out. You have
one run play to the two minute warning. Then you

(20:03):
use your one time out. Then you're getting the ball
back with not a minute left to go. But what
do the Vikings do? And you see Kevin O'Connell making
sure run it out, run it out. They kick it
about seven yards deep in the end zone. The Vikings
run the ball out. That takes seven seconds off the clock.
So now the change possession stops minute fifty five left
to go. So now it's a minute fifty five and

(20:24):
one time out left instead of two oh two with
the two minute warning and a timeout left?

Speaker 3 (20:30):
Are what's going on in Chicago? Man? As bad as
this is? Again?

Speaker 1 (20:34):
Now I wonder, I wonder if if being a head
coach is too much for Ben John because there's certain
things when I look at coaches and I go, man,
when you do that, I wonder if you're up for
being a head coach. And now I wonder, how do
you think, Yeah, just kick it deep? You think the
Vikings Kevin O'Connor's know what to Doay, run the ball out.
We got to get down to the two minute ward.
This way, we talk about attention to detail. We mentioned
this a few minutes ago with the Ravens and the

(20:56):
end of games and how they don't know how to
handle the ends of these games and being clutches at
g and being well coached is a way to do it.
Why watch Andy Reid and Bill Belichick win the end
of weird games all the time? You know they would
have ran the ball out, Oh Connells, Yeah, yeah, make sure,
come on out, run it out, run it out, run
it out. They run it out, take time off the clock.
So instead of getting the ball back with a little
bit over a minute left to go, probably if I'm

(21:18):
doing my math right now, they're gonna get the ball
back maybe if they don't get a first down here
with less than about thirty seconds left to go in
the game.

Speaker 4 (21:26):
A lot to be desired here. Richard high Tower, your
Bear's special teams coordinator. It's making me long for the
days where I was yelling, where's Alan Williams. Yeah that's right,
I look that up because this was absolutely unconscionable. Right,
we talk about just your trending within the game. The
last three drives for the Vikings, they had averaged ten

(21:47):
yards per play, all three of those drives ending in touchdowns.
Here they're able to bleed that extra five seconds off
the clock, right, it gets passed through.

Speaker 3 (21:57):
The two minute warning.

Speaker 4 (21:58):
You don't have enough leg to get it through or
you think you're gonna make the big play. This is
not the eighty five Bears. This is not that Lovey
Smith Bears team where every bounce went their way. At
least you don't know that yet to where the football gods.

Speaker 3 (22:13):
Are on your side.

Speaker 4 (22:14):
I know you're celebrating the eighty five Bears championship in
the pregame, right forty years Man, it goes fast.

Speaker 3 (22:21):
But all of that to say, but come on, how
held yourself for pimodly? How many more? How many more
celebrations do you have to he?

Speaker 4 (22:27):
Hey, there's books to be had, man, there's stories you've
never heard.

Speaker 3 (22:31):
I heard all the stories. Come on, man, there's one more.
But this is just absurd on a whole other level.
And I joke with the Seth Rollins.

Speaker 4 (22:40):
Right, he's doing commentary with NFL whatever Bears fan, WWE champion.

Speaker 3 (22:45):
His theme song is burn it Down.

Speaker 4 (22:48):
That's exactly what they're gonna be calling for in Chicago,
after all of the offseason noise that looked like it
was quieted with that opening game script and a touchdown
something they didn't do at all. And you'll hear that
a million times. Let me be the millionth and first
that they didn't score a touchdown on an opening possession
all last year.

Speaker 3 (23:07):
So there it was.

Speaker 4 (23:08):
The Ben Johnson era began with a boom, and now
it's a dumpster fire floating around the river.

Speaker 1 (23:13):
So I did my math a little bit wrong. The
math a little bit wrong. The Bears are gonna get
the ball back, but there's gonna be about well, depending
on this punt, they'll be about ten seconds. Well, his
hangtime today has been about five point one seconds. They'll
be about ten seconds left. Maybe they'll have time for
one final play or maybe two plays depending if they don't.
I mean, that's such such an epic fail. First of all,

(23:36):
I don't understand the lack of an on side kick,
and say you understand how you make sure they're not
gonna return this thing. I mean it, man, I mean,
this is why the Ravens lose games like they did,
and why the Bills went or well the Bills with
the beneficial It's why the Ravens lose teams like this,
and that's why the Bears are the Bears. I mean,
this is they turned back into the Bears. Man, they
just went fague. We're gonna mascarade as his other better

(23:57):
team the first two and a half quarter of this game.
Then we're gonna completely stop playing because we feel like
the game's over at seventeen to six. Oh no, no, wait,
now we're gonna lose. And this this really, I mean
it's not to say the Bears would have won, right
because twenty seven.

Speaker 3 (24:11):
Twenty Man, there's nine seconds on the clock. What are
you doing.

Speaker 1 (24:14):
You have to get down the field and you have
to find a way. You got to kick the field goal, right,
You need some time, But you just took your team
from Hey, maybe we have a chance with you know,
thirty some odd second forty seconds to we have no
chance by making that decision that you did, which does
DJ Moore just got hit by the snap as he
ran in motion. I I I yeah, this is this

(24:35):
is just I mean, really, this is if I'm Ben Johnson,
don't even go to the postgame press conference.

Speaker 3 (24:39):
Don't even go, oh no, he's usually fine, salty. I'll
take the fine. I'll do this. This is this is
what time the fine is worth it. Don't go to
the postgame press. That was embarrassing. I mean really don't
go there. That was something special right there.

Speaker 4 (24:50):
And you want to go, you know, Benny Hill kind
of thing, and and add a little yak and e
sacks to it there in your your postgame highlight reel,
that's where you have Bears twelve handle these one hundred
and twenty seven yards.

Speaker 3 (25:02):
I mean, it's such a bad reversal of fortune.

Speaker 1 (25:06):
But I still I can't get over the I can't
get over the decision on the kickoff because that's a
you know, anything that's pre snap in the NFL, Like
you've heard about that now, Right, The big trend the
last few years is, hey, teams commit penalties, but cut
down in the pre snap penalties. Right, these these are
the ones that kill ourselves. And it's the pre snap
decisions that have just absolutely killed the Bears. And that's

(25:31):
a pre snap decision that murdered them, right, they just
had some kind of crazy flea flick or play. It
gets stopped near midfield. The Vikings win at twenty seven
to twenty four. I mean, Ben Johnson, don't go to
the postgame press conference because that decision is something that hey, okay,
we biff that, and you can't make mistakes like that.
I mean, it's hard enough to win in the NFL.

(25:52):
It's certainly harder when your coaching staff just decides, hey,
we're gonna make you play with not just one arm
tie behind your back, we're gonna chop off the other arm.
Now one our time behind your back. Of the other
arms chopped off, good luck, God luck trying to win
that way.

Speaker 4 (26:03):
This is the I mean, we've got many of them
from week one, but let's just take three off the top.
Go back to the Dallas loss to the Eagles and
the Cede Lamb drops the Miles Sanders fumble, which really
didn't get nearly the noise that it should have in
the process, but that's fine.

Speaker 3 (26:17):
Ceed gets paid more money, so it's on him.

Speaker 4 (26:20):
Your Jets game yesterday, where you've got a lot from
your offense, but your defense doesn't show, so you end
up giving up the game to Aaron Rodgers, and you
have an opportunity here where JJ McCarthy was horrible. The
offense was nonexistent for the Vikings for two and a
half quarters, and then they turned the Jets on.

Speaker 3 (26:40):
I see what I did.

Speaker 4 (26:42):
Then all of a sudden, all of a sudden, they're
reving up and they're unstoppable. Ten yards per play in
those three touchdown drives, and all of those things that
you did well early checking down and taking the safe throw,
which I called out an hour one of like I'd
like to see a shot down the field a little

(27:02):
bit more frequently. Well, And then he did in the
second half with mixed results. A couple of big plays.
He did have a big completion to Cole Comet on
a similar route. Comet had to dive and make a
great catch to do it, but then he missed a
throw to more in the left corner of the end
zone on that same drive ends up in a touchdown.
That's fine, and put your stuff in position. But then

(27:23):
you've got all these coaching decisions that are made in
the final minutes of the game that he's going to
have to try to defend. And you were aggressive early, right,
didn't take points early on and failed on a fourth down.
You have the Santos missed fifty yard field goal you're
leaving points all over the board plus one hundred and
twenty seven penalty.

Speaker 1 (27:43):
Man, I'll tell you what, I don't feel as bad
being a Jet fan after watching this. I feel worse
for you, buddy. I mean, at least my offense played great,
my defense outside of Sauce Gardner, they were active, they
swarm in the football. They couldn't finish, and it was
awful and Aaron Rodgers won and I'm embarrassed. But boy,
this is I feel worse for you, man, Like you
definitely had the worst loss of them. Wow, this is
like Ravens Bill's loss. Because the Ravens, you can say

(28:07):
they blew the game, but at least at least you know, hey,
it came down to the very end or the last
few minutes. They didn't they didn't execute. This was you
kind of stopped playing when it was seventeen to six
and you thought, we just have to run the clock
out now because the Vikings can't do anything. You give
up the lead and then suddenly everything is going against you,
and then your coaching staff makes a decision that doesn't

(28:29):
make any sense on any level of football, and you
got not only that, now you gonna say you were
out foxed by the other coach, But I had a feeling, Hey, Vikings,
run it out anyway, you know, take that, Take that
time doesn't matter about the fifteen yard line makes no difference.

Speaker 4 (28:41):
Right.

Speaker 3 (28:41):
They know the math a little bit better than I do.

Speaker 1 (28:43):
I thought, Okay, this means the difference from like near
a minute to maybe thirty seconds up turned out to
be ten seconds, right. I mean it's I don't understand
that and it and that's the worst part is that
it was an unforced mistake. And again it makes me
wonder does the headcut does the coaching staff have what
it takes? Is Johnson have what it takes to be
a head coach in the NFL, because that's a decision
where I go. Man, I get your learning, but whoa

(29:05):
that stuff?

Speaker 3 (29:06):
You should know?

Speaker 1 (29:06):
Man, Like, it's not like it's your first day coaching.
And I think you're a great coach. You've been coaching
for a while. You know what to do when a
clock gets out. You know what kind of offense you
are running in two minutes and how much time can
come off. I mean, really, you gotta find a way
to either go for the on side kick and okay,
if you're gonna kick it off deep any what does
it matter go or at least say I know I'm
kicking the ball out of bounds just so I'm gonna

(29:28):
take the pedal. It doesn't matter if starting at the
forty anyway, but at least then I know I can
get the football back with some time left, then my
team can get down the field.

Speaker 4 (29:35):
Yeah, comedy of errors all Alonger. We chronicled it all
the way with you, because even when it was good,
it wasn't great. But then we saw a reversion to
some of those bad decisions and these these eber flu
somewhere is smiling after this comedy of errors down the stretch.
But for all of those that were looking for the
worst coming out of the Tyler Doun article and all

(29:58):
of those things that swirled in the offen season, you
got ammunition because he reverted back to some of those
decisions that he made as a rookie, right the intentional grounding,
some of the missthrows and the Van Ginkeld side arm
ball that could have been a pick six instead of
either lobbing it over the top or just recognizing this

(30:19):
guy's coming unabated, I can't get the ball out on
the screen like all of those things. It just started
ticking off one after another and missed opportunities. That is
ammunition coming out of this game. So Ben Johnson no
longer super genius for a week, although he is still
in Detroit right because things went badly there?

Speaker 3 (30:39):
What is it?

Speaker 4 (30:39):
It's I think the play callers that aren't Ben Johnson
and who is it? McVeigh is like nineteen and one
for Jared Goff, so I guess he still wins.

Speaker 3 (30:48):
It gets a little win over there.

Speaker 4 (30:50):
But this is a disaster and it's melting down in
Chicago right now.

Speaker 1 (30:54):
Right now, Ben Johnson back to Detroit for David Montgomery,
who says no, Who.

Speaker 3 (31:00):
Says no, Who says no? Right, you get running back
back who is still really good. You can give him
the ball a lot, right.

Speaker 1 (31:05):
He's still right, and you give the offense corner back
to the Lions who need maybe they need him back
after that game won yesterday.

Speaker 3 (31:12):
Who says no? Can I just say this the thing
I come out of here?

Speaker 4 (31:15):
I'm happiest that they didn't throw or run the ball
with an offensive lineman.

Speaker 3 (31:20):
That's my highlight of the damn game.

Speaker 1 (31:22):
Hey, hold on to that that's.

Speaker 2 (31:25):
All I got. Be sure to catch live editions of
The Jason Smith Show with Mike harmon weekdays at ten
pm Eastern, seven pm Pacific.

Speaker 1 (31:34):
You know, ty Shirt people are actually sending me videos
of this, But here's what I'm getting is on Twitter.
Sometimes we go, hey, check this out, and like, it
looks like it's video of a Jets play, and then
I'll play it and meanwhile, it's a Jets play or something,
but it's this song under it soundful like that's my

(31:55):
own personal rick role that I'm getting on.

Speaker 5 (31:57):
Pretty good Boswallers sixty yard in town, snap boot on
the way, that tick is up, and that tick is good.

Speaker 4 (32:05):
The great Christ pause, well drills one from sixty yards out.
You realize he's gonna lean fully back into his Steelers
fandom this year. Oh it's been dormant for about four years. Yea,
Like all of a sudden, they're like, yeah, we're in
to Jersey tomorrow.

Speaker 3 (32:23):
Ty Shirt.

Speaker 1 (32:25):
On our big board we have in the studio, everybody
picks the Super Bowl champion and everything else. MVP make
a Big Bowl prediction all of this because it's ty Shirt.

Speaker 3 (32:34):
I see.

Speaker 1 (32:34):
You know, I said I'll do your picks with you.
Just just I'll write him down for you.

Speaker 2 (32:38):
Don't lie.

Speaker 3 (32:39):
I said, who do you like? Super Bowl?

Speaker 1 (32:42):
He goes forty nine Ers? I said, okay, who do
you like? AFC Steelers? I said, okay, who wins a
Super Bowl? A Texcher says the Bills. Yes, so he's
got forty nine Ers Steelers super Bowl winner Bills.

Speaker 4 (32:55):
Look, man, you don't know what color the sky is
in his world, or how which university is skipping between
moment to moment. You'll know, and you might have a
peacemaker kind of thing where it comes out the other time.

Speaker 1 (33:07):
But the other part of it is make your big
bull prediction is is Aaron Rodgers leaves the Steelers to
the Super Bowl?

Speaker 3 (33:12):
No good? But you bet the biking good. I want
to know, baby, Mike. Think of it as like a
ww thing, Right, two wrestlers in the ring. Undertaker from
the Bat takes the belt.

Speaker 4 (33:21):
Somehow, all of a sudden, they don't actually make it
to the Super Bowl, so they win the AFC Title Game.

Speaker 3 (33:27):
But somehow in those two weeks, chaos ensues.

Speaker 4 (33:30):
Maybe it's a rumble like out of Anchorman, and all
of a sudden, the Steelers are back and they're inserted
to that Super Bowl game up at Levi's.

Speaker 1 (33:38):
If the NFL worked that way that well, I'll get
you Roger Goodell's phone number.

Speaker 3 (33:42):
Let you you call him with that. I want to
talk to him. I got nothing for him.

Speaker 1 (33:46):
So it's time to have an appreciation moment for a
guy we had zero appreciation for the first.

Speaker 3 (33:51):
Two and a half quarters of this game.

Speaker 4 (33:52):
And we got a call it like it is as
we see it, as a horrible as bad a first
two and a half quarters as he had after the
pick stick gave the Bears the lead seventeen to six,
JJ McCarthy and the Vikings come from behind to win
this game over the Bears in an absolute debacle.

Speaker 1 (34:08):
For Chicago, which we'll get into more of that coming
up in a few minutes. But McCarthy doesn't have a
great game, right, but he does exactly what he was
asked to do at Michigan. Run this offense that we're
gonna Sledgehimmer down the field and make a plane now
and again. Now, it's not a big long term success
in the NFL quarterback wise, but it worked tonight because

(34:30):
what did they do? They ran the football really well
in the second half, right Mason ran the ball well.
Jones had a couple of nice runs and that got
their legs under them. McCarthy made two nice passes for
the touchdowns. He had to scramble for the touchdown. Right fantasy,
all of a sudden, he's got a really good game.
But it's not like McCarthy single handedly picked up the
team and said let's go win this game. They asked

(34:52):
him to do exactly what they asked him to do
at Michigan, which was run the offense. We're gonna we
got running backs, we're gonna give the ball to we
have playmakers at wide receiver. Just once in a while,
you make a play. And that's what he did in
the last quarter and a half. He made a play
once in a while. Oh man, there's a good throw
from JJ McCarthy silent for a while on this drive there,
he is one good throw there, and that was good

(35:13):
enough to win this game. So I give him the
nod because it must have felt just like it wasn't
Michigan where Okay, not gonna ask you to go win
a game because we know you're not good enough to
do that, but we're gonna ask you to go out
and execute the offense and when we need to play, hey,
come through with that a little bit.

Speaker 3 (35:26):
And that's what he did.

Speaker 4 (35:26):
To them, As you always say, can't fault a good strategy, right,
slow it down. That first half and so on was miserable,
all right. They couldn't run the ball. Three and outs,
the third down conversions, oh for their first eight and
just miserable. On the eighth one it was a nice
little dump off to Adam Thielend that goes right through
his hands. But you know they stayed within themselves. The

(35:49):
defense crank things up. Flores in company coming out of
the break started to get after it. You had the
long field goal, like we were talking with Steve de
Seger before fifty nine yards to never assume that it's
out of a guy's range at this point. And you
got some signs of life again. First half he had
two plays. He had a pass interference call for forty

(36:10):
forty yards, which was a bailout of a bad McCarthy
pass that was woefully underthrown. And then you had the
big pass completion to Nailor to help set up the
long attempt. So go into halftime, you slow it down
and you're able to take advantage with that two headed
monster out of the backfield. And then Jones has always
been a good receiver and he finds space as well,

(36:32):
so for McCarthy when they needed him to make a play.
Did I mean the touchdown pass to Jefferson was fantastic
over the middle right pass two defenders. He gets his
guy involved with two catches on that drive, including the touchdowns.
So it's winning football. And I even got an apology,
you know, well kind of laughing at me.

Speaker 3 (36:54):
From our boss. So sorry, it's better for radio Vikings.

Speaker 1 (36:58):
Fan Scott Shapiro, who Yeah, it's easier to say sorry
because the Vikings won.

Speaker 3 (37:02):
No, it's it. He is having some glug right now.
He's hanging out with Ragnar.

Speaker 4 (37:07):
I still have a couple of bottles stored away from
last batch.

Speaker 1 (37:10):
We ask a really big question about this Bears debacle
against the Vikings.

Speaker 3 (37:15):
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