July 18, 2025 • 40 mins
Jason & Mike react to the breaking news of Lloyd Howell announcing his resignation as the NFLPA executive director due multiple controversies including collusion & Caitlin Clark’s injury impact on the WNBA All-Star Game!
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because I mean really, when I saw today's story, they said,
(01:00):
how much longer can this guy really hold on to
his job? It turns out the answer was about six hours.
So if you remember a week ago, pretty big story,
Pablo Tory. Now, who is your source for everything? Bill Belichick,
Jordan Hudson and the NFL and the NFL Players Association
being in cahoots, had the story a week ago that
(01:23):
a big bombshell story that the NFL and the NFLPA
worked together to keep salaries down in big contracts after
the Deshaun Watson contract was agreed to by the Browns,
where Jimmy Hassel decides, I'm desperate for a quarterback. I'll
give this guy two hundred and forty million dollars in guarantee.
All of it. That upset everybody around the league.
Speaker 4 (01:44):
And the many were vocal about it.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
Yes, Deshaun Watson, Wait wait a minute, And as it
turns out, what Pablo Tory was able to unearth, the
NFL the NFLPA after that was over, according to reports,
worked together to keep guaranteed money. And this isn't an
era in which quarterbacks like Lamar Jackson and Joe Burrow
and Josh Allen all got contract extensions in the years
(02:09):
following to Sean Watson, could they have gotten more Could
they have gotten more money? Could they have pushed the
value up? Potentially? They could have, But now you have
the NFL the NFLPA were working together on this. When
this story broke, I said, they gotta get rid of everybody.
Everybody's gotta be fired. This is you're supposed to be
working for the players. You can't be working in cahoots
(02:30):
with the owners. They're trying to beat you in every
collective bargaining agreement there is. You can't sit here and say, oh,
we'll help you out on this. What are you insane?
And a lot of players didn't know about it, and
it took them a lot by surprise. And I can't
believe that their entire leadership, starting with Lloyd Howell, who
took over for Demorris Smith a couple of years ago,
wasn't ushered out right. I can't believe that didn't happen.
(02:53):
But a week has gone by and I thought, Okay,
let's see how this plays out, because clearly now the
NFL has not been said anything on it because they
can't because they look really bad. Let's see where this goes.
Then today Pablo Tory found out another podcast right breaking
this story that there was an arbitration ruling in February
in accordance to her grievance that the NFL won. What
(03:16):
was this all about? It includes then president J. C.
Treader that encouraged running backs to exaggerate injuries to increase
leverage during contract disputes. Whoa, whoa, wha wait what what? Yeah,
because running backs have very little leverage in contract disputes,
so they were encouraged to exaggerate injuries to help them
in trying to get more money. And when this story
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came out to I said, Okay, there's no way the
leadership survived. There's no way. How do you survive this down?
This is not NFL NFLPA, you know together, This is
just now. Hey, we tried to deceive the NFL in this,
and an arbiter ruled in favor for the NFL in this,
and this was not made public. A Pablo Tory, who
is now the most hated man in the NFL, came
(04:01):
out with this. So I saw this earlier today. I said,
there's how has anybody survived this? Well, it turns out
they don't because Lloyd Howell is no longer the director
of the NFLPA. The NFLPA put out a statement about
fifteen minutes ago in which he talked about how he
is resigning from his post and prappy of everything they've
(04:22):
accomplished over the past two years. Rooting for the players
to succeed, but it is clear that my leadership has
become a distraction to the important work the NFLPA advances
every day. And he informed the NFLPA Executive Committee that
he is stepping down as executive director of the NFLPA.
So now suddenly they're looking for new leadership. And honestly, yeah,
(04:43):
this is something that should have happened that day. I
can't believe NFL players haven't. I mean, maybe they were waiting,
maybe they knew, maybe there was all kinds of phone
calls and they were told just chill, just chill, guys
are on vacation. We're going to figure this thing out.
Don't worry, don't worry. But I can't believe there wasn't
a huge sort of of uproar that we need new leadership.
Now when it comes to the fact that, oh, we
(05:03):
were working with the NFL over this, and now we
get outed that we got advice to try to fake injuries,
like whoa, whoa, whoa. You need new leadership from the jump,
from the beginning, and now the NFL the players are
going to get it. Well.
Speaker 5 (05:16):
We've always talked about the disconnect from even in the
quote rank and file system, of the players, right, You're
at different stages of your career, different completely different levels
in terms of your yearly income, your average values, all
of those things that trying to get everybody to agree
on stuff has always been an issue. And I'm gonna
(05:37):
look directly at that middle camera here in the Fox
Sports Radio studios as I say this, Demor Smith. I
haven't read his book yet. So is it better that
he was just incompetent and continually beaten like a drum
by Roger Goodell in the NFL? Or does this mean
you've got to go back and look at any decisions
(05:58):
that were made during his tenure as well? All of
this I'll leave that for the gallery to start talking.
But certainly here we had the reports of conflict of interest,
we have the the history of now, the exaggerated injuries,
all of this trying to get everybody together. There's a
bunch of people that were on the board of directors
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for the players side of things that say, well, we
didn't know that we were. They were being told this right,
It's they'd said the quiet part out loud. After the
Deshaun Watson contract, several owners, certainly Baltimore first and foremost
as they were getting ready to deal with Lamar Jackson's contract.
But that was really no secret.
Speaker 4 (06:39):
That there was.
Speaker 5 (06:39):
There were a lot of hand ringing and and upset
owners over what Haslam had to do. That was also
during a time where he was trying to take some
heat off himself. Remember he's he's had a lot of
run ins with authorities himself, so hey, let's get back.
We got a quarterback and that didn't work out quite
so well, and so many levels, but it's the The
(07:02):
union has long been a thing you and I, so
as long as we've been on the air together, and
for years before that just watching how it's been run,
it's always been problematic, always been a disconnect. You talk
to players, Yeah, we never saw anything. We kind of
got bullet points from whoever our team rep was. So
unless they had something where they actively pushed it into
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their hands or into their agents' hands to force the issue.
So many a guys, so many guys were ignorant of
what they were voting on because they were afraid of
being bounced out of the league. Right being because next
man up, right, if you're a five to seven year
veteran and you start getting into that next level of
guarantees and pension and all that stuff. The fear is
(07:45):
that they're going to replace with the younger guy. Sounds
familiar for a lot of industries, I know, But yeah,
the purposes of this conversation with the NFL, right, guys
are voting, how do I get to keep my job?
Why do you think the Sam Bradford Giant novelty check
went out business all those years ago? That was the
one time where the veterans actually flex their muscle together
to say, hey, this isn't right these kids. But otherwise
(08:09):
it's always been a disconnect. Wait, we get an extra
day or two off of practice, Yeah, we'll vote for that.
So yeah, the fact that you've got leadership with more
questions and finally the hammer, the sword of Damocles to
vote mister Howell off of the island. Yeah, it's not surprising.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
You know. And this look for it to be a story.
We tell you how big it is, how big a
deal this is. I understand, And we talked about the
story the first time. I get You know, the fans
aren't going to have sympathy because fans always think players
are overpaid, no matter what, right forever fans think players
are overpaid. So you see a story like, hey, collusion
with the players and the players association. I don't care, Yeah,
(08:51):
I just want to win. I don't care what the
players get paid. Oh, here's now, running backs were told
to exaggerate your injuries. Why why maybe harder to come
in and play and so we could win. Like, you're
not gonna get sympathy from the fans if you're talking about, hey,
here's the here's how we're not getting treated in negotiations. Right,
that's very much an inside baseball uh, a story that
just kind of falls on deaf ears with fans a lot.
(09:14):
But you want to know why I think about it
like this? And now you understand, Oh, I get it
if you worked for a union, right, and and you
know many people have been I've been in unions before.
Not in a union now, but I was in a
union in college. I was in a union. And you know,
outside of college, you pay dues and the union supposed
to protect you, supposed to protect you against the company
you work for, against being treated poorly. And look, you
(09:37):
can have your opinion about unions and how how useful
they are, how successful they are. I understand that because
it's people. I'm pro union, I'm anti union. It's fine,
but unions are supposed to be there to protect the employee, right,
This is a union that and said, yeah, yeah, we
got you back, don't worry. Hey, yeah, you're gonna make
sure I can get as much money as I can
from work here, right, whether it's in a bank, or
(09:59):
it's in a TV stud udo, or I'm working, you know,
for a university. You're gonna make sure I get Oh,
of course, gonna take care of you. And then you
find out that, hey, your union worked with your employer
to keep your salaries down. How pissed are you gonna be?
You're gonna be the most pissed guy in the world.
And then it gets out that, oh, other guys were
told to hey, fake injuries, speaking of union situations, faking
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injuries to work to so your negotiating ability with with
your company is even better. Think about how backwards that is,
how embarrassing that is. If you're you join a union,
you pay them dues, right, you pay dues, and you
want to Hey, you're gonna take care, You're gonna fight
the battles for me of something. I hope I never
have to use you, but you know you're there for me.
(10:42):
And I get a lawyer, or I get a battle fought,
or if I get if I get disciplined where I
don't think I should anything anything. Unions can can stand
up for you for you find out your unions. Yeah
we're working with the UH, with the company that we're
supposed to be protecting you from. How would you feel
You would feel incredibly betrayed. And that's why this is
such a length show where here's the leadership of the
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biggest union in all of sports, it's the NFLPA, where guys,
we know the quality of life they have leaving the
game isn't great, and they want to be taken care
of while they are playing and a bigger piece of
the pie and all these things that they should deserve
because you know, again we talked about this last hour,
what players go through to put their bodies on the
line to play in the NFL. I get it, man, Yeah,
(11:25):
they get paid pretty well, But how do you want
to feel when you're thirty five years old? Right? Understand that, right,
this is what they are exchanging their lives for. And
so yeah, you want to feel like you're taking care
of me I'm gonna come out of this game and
I'm gonna have pain almost every day, and I'm gonna
have to worry about I'm gonna at best, I'm gonna
have to work out and make sure that my body
doesn't betray me and I can still have a really
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good quality of life. And you get found out that
oh yeah, yeah, we're keeping the salaries down. Really, I
mean that's I can't understand how it's not a complete
We are ousting everybody, and we're gonna go outside to
bring in somebody to come run that. I've heard seen
Tony Dungee's name out there a lot on social media.
He should come in and run like this is one
of those you know, to compare it to politics, where hey,
(12:09):
I don't like what I've seen. You know, I can't
believe this happened. And now we're moving on from a
really embarrassing situation. We need somebody out of house to
come in to take over here. We didn't outside the
box candidate to come in and run things, because this
is just We've been betrayed on all levels. So now
maybe it is somebody who's not involved in the NFLPA.
Maybe it isn't but maybe somebody like Tony Dungee, who
(12:31):
knows what it could be. Who knows who could wind
up coming back out saying, yeah, I want to go
do this. Maybe it's a former player, maybe Tom Brady
decides I want to go do this, right, Who knows.
But you need some kind of new leadership to come
in that has no ties to the old leadership to
come in and fix this thing, because this is an
absolute blank show. And I'm embarrassed for the players. I'm
embarrassed for the NFLPA that this is what's been going
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on for the past couple of years. I mean, my goodness,
is this bad?
Speaker 5 (12:57):
Well, but it's it all goes back again where you know,
to the prior leadership and some of the decisions and
concessions made for minimal gains. Right, you bring up the
health insurance and health part of things, which is always
a sticking point when we're talking about the CBA as
much as you do, because as you said, it's the
to mix sports, the inside baseball and the eyes glaze
(13:20):
over no matter how important the business part of it is,
you know, in terms of this multi billion dollar pie
that continues to grow, But it is that idea of hey,
we accepted an extra day off. We did this right,
because the eighteenth game is coming, So what's the concession?
There is there a concession because based on the current CBA,
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they can force that on them with no no real
change to anything in terms of other parts of the
language and any other concessions for the players, like, hey,
you'll get an extra check. That's great, But that that
that's the extent of it. So it's it's the curiosity
next of how they proceed in these processes. There've been
(14:01):
a couple of names mentioned. You mentioned Dongee, I've seen
Davis's name. But there's guys that are still peripherally attached
to what's going on because you want some level of
institutional knowledge and where the proverbial bodies are buried in
past negotiations, but only to a degree, because if you
knew too many of those instances, well then you're complicit
(14:25):
in the entire shady shadiness.
Speaker 4 (14:27):
Of it all.
Speaker 5 (14:28):
So this is a big story as we're on the
dawning of a new training camp run and a quick
sprint towards you know that game in Brazil Hall of
Fame game is what the thirty first So a lot
to take care of. And I'm surprised this didn't happen
on a Friday night though, so Thursday night, so you
still get everybody's gonna take their big swings at it.
Speaker 4 (14:50):
In the NFL. I have to wear it at least
for one day.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
Yeah, look, I mean this definitely has the hallmarks of
a Hey, we're gonna do this thing Friday night at
like ten thirty. I'm gonna walk away. But I mean,
I think after the story today, what else could you do?
Maybe there's something coming out tomorrow. I'm gonna resign to
night because tomorrow tomorrow, Wait, do you see the news
stump tomorrow and what's going he.
Speaker 5 (15:13):
See I got out before it got really really bad.
But no, I mean we've been waiting on this. The
last couple of weeks started to swell. Torre and Florio
getting after it in terms of their reporting and being
you know, pretty dogged in their the research and fight
for this, and I it is a big deal, right,
conflict of interest. We we talked about it a lot also,
(15:33):
Jason with the uh, you know this guy taking less money,
Tom Brady's name, who you invoked always like no other
guys are gonna get paid. It's not the one player,
it's if it's a full class or position of players.
You know, like this running back thing that actually creates
an issue.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
Exit. How about a Fresco exit swollen dome. Jason Smith
Mike Carmon Live from the Fox Sports Radio Studios. Yeah,
I mean Lloyd How I mean maybe you know his name.
He's the head of the nflp A. You know d Smith.
That's the guy that it for a long time. And
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as the WNBA kareems towards their All Star weekend and
number one they will do it without Caitlin Clark right,
this is the worst nightmare for the WNBA. You know
we talked about this last night, like the groin injury
that's going to keep her out that she suffered late
in there win over the Connecticut Sun a couple of
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nights ago, no three point contest for her, no game
this weekend. She's gonna help coach the team. And uh,
this is just an absolute nightmare. Because look, the WNBA,
however you want to slice it, you know, they were
looking forward to this event being the All Star Game
(18:21):
with Caitlin Clark in her backyard where everybody gets on
the same page. Right. We had a year of silliness
and and and and and out and out ridiculousness of
of of hate of Caitlin Clark, and and and whether
it's jealousy because whether it's racial, whether it's just she
doesn't deserve the attention she's getting. Whatever it is, we
had it. But now you're gonna put an event on
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that the entire world is gonna watch. It's the middle
of the summer, it's the WNBA All Star Game. Nobody
gets people to the television better than Caitlin Clark does
in any sport. Sorry, but it's the truth. That's why
we said she was magic and Larry coming into the
league a year ago. But now people are jumping on that.
So it's okay. Uh so this was gonna be it.
This is where everybody, even the biggest haters, the big
(19:03):
the players and the coaches who didn't like her the most,
are gonna understand. Okay, she really is the show. She
is the hood ornament of this league. She is she Okay,
I understand. I'm on board now because everything she does
it's good for the league. I have to stop that
whatever petty jealousiness and either it's on the court that
(19:24):
we're gonna that I'm gonna show what kind of a
player I am. I'm gonna do my own thing to
try to cut through and be a star because clearly
there's so many more uh uh, so many more chances.
I have to get attention, to get relevance, for people
to pay attention to me, because more people are watching
this league than at any other time. Okay, and you
know this was the time where the WNBA is gonna
(19:44):
say this is how we're doing it. We're putting on
a big event and it's gonna be the Caitlin Clark Show.
And now she's injured and she's not gonna be available,
and it's just a huge, huge blow. Look, it sucks.
There's nothing I could say because this was a huge
mischance that the WNBA was gonna have.
Speaker 5 (19:59):
Fortunately, they've got some others that have broken through. I mean,
you lean into Angel reesent her nearly thirteen boards a
game and getting to be a better shooter, better player.
We talked about it a little bit yesterday in terms
of her approach this year. Team has its issues, but
I get it done. I mean Collier and Wilson, Kelsey Plumb.
I'd mike her up for every minute she's on the court,
(20:22):
just recognizing you maybe pay a couple of FCC fines
or you need to be on a seven to forty
five second delay with her.
Speaker 4 (20:28):
You're gonna have fun with it.
Speaker 5 (20:30):
Page backers, whoever else, Sabrina, you go on down the line.
Speaker 4 (20:34):
You've got to pivot.
Speaker 5 (20:35):
So now it's the how quickly can we get montages
together of greatness for them? That will supersede a lot
of the Caitlin Clark packages that you would have had,
because otherwise you got to start playing that sad Sarah
McLaughlin song over those highlights.
Speaker 4 (20:51):
I will remember, Oh.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
Suddenly, now it's an infomercial late at night and I'm
looking at at animals that oh, look at this, he's
not the.
Speaker 4 (21:02):
Right Who do we sell?
Speaker 5 (21:04):
I mean I don't listen to a lot of the
podcasts or or follow a lot of the TikTokers. I mean,
Sophie Cunningham's obviously had her run. In terms of the
w NBA regular season. I don't know which of the
All Stars have I have that kind of heat on
social media, but damn.
Speaker 4 (21:19):
It, I'd be leaning into it as hard as I
could right now if I'm the.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
Yeah, look, obviously there's other players that are gonna spotlight, right,
Angel Reese and Kelsey Plumb. Uh, these are gonna be
two players that that and they have cut through even
more this year, Angel Reesel coming in with Katela Clark
obviously the Angel Rees Caitlin Clark debate. Hey, let's pit
women against each other? Right, Like, why do we do that?
But the biggest thing that I'll tell you is is
you want Caitlin Clark to be as much a part
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of this as possible. Of course I would say, listen, hey,
I know you want to coach, but instead you're gonna
be on the air with us. You're gonna be on
the broadcast. You're gonna be in the booth and we're
gonna be talking to you the entire time. That's what
we want you to do. That's what's gonna help the
w NBA. Is it really gonna help that you're gonna
get a cutaway of Caitlyn Clark helping to coach because
you know she's gonna be out on the floor like
she is the coach, right, you know she's gonna be
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out there arguing like she is actually coaching the team.
Speaker 4 (22:06):
She's gonna get thrown out.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
But but no, but I mean, really, okay, hey, you
really want to do it. You're on the broadcast, and
not that it's the same thing. It would have been
an All Star game. You know, obviously Caitlin Clark would
get a lot of minutes, but it's a lot of
players going in and out of the game and coming
back in. But you want her to be front and set.
You put her on during the three point shooting contest,
you put her on during the game. She is she
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has a headset on and you are showing her on
TV while she's watching it like this is what you're
doing for the All Star Game. She's not playing but
she is, it's gonna be she's gonna get more screen
time and you're gonna hear from her more than if
she actually was playing. And it doesn't matter if she's
saying anything incredible. It doesn't matter if she's you know, saying, oh,
this place, she stinks. I lit her up for thirty
(22:50):
last time we played it. It doesn't matter. But just
having her there is gonna get people to the to
the broadcast. I would say, yeah, I know you want
to coach, but you gotta be on the broadcast.
Speaker 5 (22:58):
Yeah, life gives you lemon's do your best to make
some lemonade. Tell her nothing's off off off limits. I'm
gonna tee you up about officiating.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
Oh that's all we're gonna talk about. That's all kind of.
Speaker 4 (23:10):
Officiating on you.
Speaker 5 (23:12):
And I'm gonna read you some quotes by some of
your colleagues that are playing in this year game right now,
and you can shout them out as we as we
go through. But yeah, you've got to figure out a
way to involve her, because it's all about figuring out
how to get more casual folks are peripheral folks to
give you a few extra minutes diehards were already gonna
(23:32):
be there regardless of Caitlin Clark's appearance last year into
the league, this year, whatever. You've had this exponential growth
and this was gonna be a big topic for you
and a big opportunity to push forward show proof of
concept again to the marketability on the bigger stage and
(23:52):
keep pet catapulting.
Speaker 4 (23:53):
We talked about it.
Speaker 5 (23:54):
With the TV deal already signed, that's great, but it's
all the ancillary extras that you're still pushing for and
to you know, give, you know, make good kind of
moments to those people that are backing you and coming
to the fray. And part of that is the show itself,
and Caitlin Clark is the show. Take nothing away from
the rest of these women. They're doing a hell of
(24:15):
a job and we've chronicled it our entire time here
at Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 4 (24:20):
But we know that the stakes have raised.
Speaker 1 (24:23):
And you know, it's funny to go to this part
of the topic now that I'm saying, hey, here's this
big together moment right that the NWNBA was looking forward
to and now it's out the window. But get her
on the broadcast, right it. But it plays into it so.
Speaker 5 (24:34):
I have to say this, but I really well, it
was a big get together the moment.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
Yeah, look they did it. Look WNBA. Yeah, in advance
of the All Star Game. As we've heard over the
course of the past few days, they're getting set for
their new collective bargaining agreement. As we heard from many players,
they said, hey, this is going to be a spicy negotiation.
They want more. They know how marketable the league is now.
And they had their first face to face meeting today
in Indianapolis, but they didn't get any close to do
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a new deal. The WNBA is not happy the so
the players are not happy. The current CBA is going
to expire at the end of this year, so they
really have the clock ticking to get it done. So
so far day one of the meetings and it didn't
go great. Okay, So now that being said, right, I mean,
I know I feel kind of petty at this point,
(25:21):
but this is what I this is what I really want,
is that you know, with this happening right now and
with the with the WNBA, the players Union trying to
find this. If I'm Caitlin Clark and you know that
they are going to try to put me front and center.
You know they're gonna want to talk to me. They're
going to want to make me part of negotiations. If
I'm Caitlin Clark. I find everybody in that room that
(25:44):
I know is not a fan of mine or is
hesitant to give me credit for the success for whatever reason,
because it doesn't let them justify their jobs. It's jealousy.
I want to stand up and I say, okay, here,
weet before we get down to business. I want to
say one thing. Everybodybody listening. Yeah, yeah, oh now you
want my help. Oh now I'm great. Right now I'm
(26:04):
the league. Oh now I'm so good. Now you can't
wait to have me out there? No, now, I do
so much. I thought it was everybody else. Why don't
you call Angel. Get Angel in here and do this.
Get Kelsey Plumbing here to do things. Get Brianna Stewart
to come here, Get all these players, get Cheryl Reeve
to come in here and help out. I'm just one player.
What could I possibly want? I make sure I make
(26:27):
eye contact with everybody I know feels that way, just
so I get that. Okay, now, get that out of
the way, tension breaker. I feel good. It was just
it was just building up for me. Now I'm read. Now,
now let's have negotiations. But I want you to know.
Oh now you want me. Now I'm now suddenly. Oh
look how valuable we are because I'm here in the league.
And now you want now you want me to help
make everybody rich? Oh okay, now you got just understand that.
(26:51):
Now you want I really want to see and I
want to be a fly on the wall for that.
Speaker 5 (26:55):
And say what time does the team plane leave as
opposed to when do you fly out of terminal fighting?
Speaker 1 (27:02):
Hey, we can leave here one of two ways on
a charter flight, or you guys could book it yourself.
Here you go Expedia. I'll give you guys the phone
number right now, go ahead, try to get out of here.
Speaker 4 (27:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (27:12):
The the estimate right now from Bloomberg is that w
NBA players receive an estimated nine point three percent of
lead revenue. Now, it's been well chronicled the losses that
have been sustained through the years. But now you're in
a new era of health and expansion growth. You see
what it costs you to bring in a new franchise. Yeah,
(27:33):
you are you gonna give her a crown? That says
queen petty on it. She's gonna steal one from Chelsea
Green of the WWE. And you know she only come
walking in with a giant bedazzled hat.
Speaker 7 (27:45):
You know, Now, I go, I gotta say, I gotta
say because yes, generally, generally when you are petty about stuff,
you regret it in the end.
Speaker 1 (27:57):
Right, Yeah, you know what? It was an itch I
had describe at the end, I'm like, Wow, would I
do that over again? No, No, this is something we're
absolutely be petty, absolutely one hundred be one hundred percent petty.
Go Okay, So now because you're not really being petty,
you're kind of saying, oh wait, so which is just
let me know? Just let me know what I am. Am
I really really important to the league or is it
everybody else and I'm being overrated and all this? Just
(28:19):
let me know what it is. Just let me know
where you need me to be for this, right because honestly,
and I would feel really good about that. I feel Ah,
I'm glad I got that out. All right, Great, now
let's get down to business. Okay, Way, Cheryl Reeve, why
are you leaving? Why?
Speaker 2 (28:31):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (28:31):
I didn't mean yu come on just because I traded
you as a coach doesn't mean where you guys go
or are you guys going? I really I would like
to see that.
Speaker 5 (28:38):
Yeah, they want to do a luxury tax situation for
the salary cap and everything else is what the league's proposing,
much like the NBA model about yeah, Caitlin Clark being
in the room where it happens. I want to know
who the other team reps are, Like, we know they're
forty for Martin's report, but who.
Speaker 4 (28:58):
Are the people that are charged?
Speaker 5 (28:59):
Because this coming out of what we were talking about
with the NFL, I guarantee it dann Tee a bunch
of those guys that were team reps, and certainly the
guys that they were elected to the board, they.
Speaker 4 (29:08):
Ain't gonna be there by the end of the week. Wnba. Hey,
history is watching you here.
Speaker 1 (29:16):
Oh man exit? How about a Fresca exit swollen Dome?
The Jason Smith Show with my best friend Mike Harmon,
t I'm gonna find out what's trending in the wide
world of sports from Martin Wisse and what do you
got for us?
Speaker 3 (29:28):
That's right, Mike Harmon, you said it just a second ago.
There were more than forty w NBA players gathered Thursday
for a meeting between the WNBA and the Players Association.
It was the biggest in person player turnout in union
history during CBA talks, and the first that they've had
thus far. The two sides left with no resolution. I
imagine ANC totally the biggest one hat to have been
(29:49):
during COVID twenty twenty that was on zoom. So that's
why they clarify as the in person actually covered some
of those meetings. NFLPA Executive Director Lloyd Howell announced that
he'll be stepping down from the position, stating quote, it's
clear my leadership has become a distraction. Submit reports that
Howell played a part in a collusion ruling being hidden
and Gron guaranteeing contracts. Hall also had a conflict of
(30:12):
interest with private equity groups who have been granted permission
to buy parts of NFL teams. Adam Schefter is reporting
that this decision for Howell to step down was his
decision and his loan. Nine times NBA all stared Damian
Lillard finalizing a three year, forty two million dollar contract
to return to the Portland Trailblazers. That deal expected to
(30:34):
include a player option in twenty twenty seven, twenty twenty
eight and a no trade clause.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
Telor Star TJ.
Speaker 3 (30:40):
Watte become the highest paid quarterback in the NFL history,
and not for the first time in his career, but
for the second, which spawned JJ Watt to put on
Instagram never touching my wallet again.
Speaker 1 (30:51):
Didn't he say, Hey, if this guy even makes me
reach my wallet, next time we.
Speaker 3 (30:55):
Go talk with the watch, that reaching for my wallet.
And you know what, my little brother's hundred three year,
one hundred and twenty three million dollar extension, one hundred
and eight of that fully guaranteed. I'd be okay with
that forty one million dollars a year. You can buy
me lunch, anybody lunch for that matter. At the Open,
there's a five way tie at the top of the
leader boy that includes Matt Fitzpatrick Harrits English who are
(31:17):
all four under par. Scottie Scheffler is one shot back,
Roy McElroy three shots back. Phil Mickelson had a one
hundred seventy for his best round at an Open Championships
twenty twenty six. We resumed that in about two hours,
about two hours back to you guys.
Speaker 1 (31:34):
Very good Thank you very much. The Jason Smithzer with
Mike Harmon live from the Fox Sports Radio Studios coming
up next. Hey, it's not quite sports news, but big news. Hey,
if you're up now and you're listening to the radio,
you're doing thing. Yeah, this news affects you. We got that.
Plus we remember an absolute legend coming up next. Right here,
(31:56):
Jason and Mike, you're listening to Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (31:59):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
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Speaker 1 (32:07):
The Jason Smith Show with my best friend Mike Harmon. Uh, well,
we'll remember an absolute legend coming up in a couple
of minutes. But look, the biggest story in entertainment over
the last few hours, The Stephen Colbear Show is ending. Yeah,
Seas is pulling the plug on the Late Show and yeah, no,
(32:30):
it's it's done.
Speaker 4 (32:32):
He's done.
Speaker 5 (32:32):
Well, they are actually doing that to the uh yeah,
to the time slot in the concept.
Speaker 1 (32:36):
Yeah, and that and that's the thing is that, you know,
you talk about being ahead of the curve right this
season on Hacks, Right, the Hacks is one of the
best comedies that this season wasn't quite as good a season,
but the Jean Smart Henna Einbinder, it's a phenomenal comedy.
It's and Geen Smart is a Vegas comedian who is
trying to you know, in her seventies, who still is
(32:59):
always wanted to be a host in late night television
and she didn't get a chance. She was kept out
of the chair by by men on the course of
her career. I mean, it's phenomenal show, and it's funny,
and it's it's you know, no matter what generation you are,
there's stuff there for you. It's just really well done.
And the whole thing is she is you know she's
up for well, I won't ruin it if we haven't
(33:19):
seen the show. She's up. She eventually gets up for
the job of late night host. Right, she's up for
the job a late night host, and she finds out
that it's not really that she's competing against anybody, it's
that the network that is that she's doing it for
is either gonna have her do the late night show
and continue on or cancel the show all together and
(33:42):
get out of the late night business and put something
else on the air. Then and it was like and
it was a shock. It's like, hey, we're not choosing
somebody else. It's either you do it or you know,
we're gonna end it. We're gonna end the show. And
I'm like, wow, I remember when that happened, saying, I
wonder how close that is. Network's already doing that, you know,
with the Leno thing that didn't work and they let
him go and now the whole different late night stuff
(34:04):
and fallon and and now how healthy is late night programming?
I wonder if if a company's ever really gonna do that,
And CBS is doing it right. They're they're ending the
franchise after thirty years on it. There's not gonna be
another late show after not a new host. They're ending
the franchise, and there's gonna be some other kind of
programming that goes there. And you know, I sit here
(34:25):
and go, boy, you know people that are up at
night and entertainment, And that's why you want to talk
about it here a bit, because you know people, if
you're up now, maybe you're watching the Late Show. You
watch it at some point or you watch the clips
the next day. It's it's really sad to see that, Hey,
here's a show that that gave that that you know,
gains a lot of attention. But for whatever reason, hey
(34:45):
and and probably monetary, it's just not worth it for
us to be in this business anymore. So, Yeah, we're
not going to have the Late Show anymore. You have
to wonder how how long till other eleven thirty shows
are no longer going to be on the air. There,
that's a scary it's a scary moment today.
Speaker 5 (35:01):
Well, something we've talked about a lot, right the changing
face of media, how people are consuming stuff. We talked
about a lot Tuesday with the All Star Game from
Major League Baseball that while you had your peak of
eight point one million viewers during the swing off, a
lot of what you were gonna get was trying to
figure out the traction of all of those huge moments
(35:21):
that went viral, from the Clayton Kershaw two thirty seven
interview that we played to guys getting hit by pitches,
to Freddie Freeman walking off, to all the in game
interviews of the other players, and the stand up to
cancer the ludicrous like you just had all of that,
and that's what Late Night has kind of become as well.
For a lot of these shows, you're seeing the clips
(35:42):
before it even hits their airing time. And Colbert in
his statement again Northwestern guys, I knew a guy that
wrote for the show for a while. They got two
hundred people working there. Yeah, that's a lot of people.
So there's a lot of people now looking for jobs.
But it also pulls back the curtain on you need
(36:02):
a two hundred people to do the show.
Speaker 4 (36:05):
I just I don't know.
Speaker 5 (36:07):
I mean, I haven't seen the depth chart and whatever.
Obviously I sit and watch for any semblance of an
extra quasi scene.
Speaker 4 (36:15):
They'll get me at the end of the movie.
Speaker 5 (36:17):
So I watch the hard work and all the people
that have been there, from the gaffer down to the
fifteen drivers on a set.
Speaker 4 (36:24):
I respect them all. But to run that show two hundred.
Speaker 5 (36:28):
People, wow, I mean, if that's legit, and that number
that he put out there is part of the like,
that's a lot of salaries, that's a lot of a
lot of process, And I feel for all those people,
no question about it.
Speaker 4 (36:42):
But you can understand where a network.
Speaker 5 (36:43):
Might say, well, do we get the bang for the
buck anymore?
Speaker 1 (36:47):
Yeah? Yeah, I mean that's a tough thing. It's a
tough thing to see, man, but great, hey, no matter
what side of the aisle you are down to, you know,
seeing something like this, it's like, here's another option that
is now not there because it's just not worth How
many people will blame Cordon even though oh yeah yeah, yeah,
yeah yeah, it's all yeah, it's all Cordon's fault. Yeah
he was. We're fine until he decided to leave and
(37:08):
all of a sudden, you know, all this different stuff
and being a top of tour buses with the Avengers.
Come on, man, we need stuff like that.
Speaker 5 (37:14):
That's what it is, or it was something that you know,
his his staffing begat other issues. I don't know, but
he's returning to Broadway this this fall with Abby kind
of Alli and Patrick Harris Cats too, right, No, yeah, yeah, well,
I mean that would be funny.
Speaker 4 (37:29):
I mean it's really trippy.
Speaker 5 (37:30):
Like I don't smoke or do any of that, and
I really don't drink anymore, but I remember watching Cats.
It actually showed up in my timeline of something I
sat with the kids because they were moderately interested in
when it hit streaming, and we looked at each other, going,
what the hell are we watching? And I knew the play,
you know the play. I'd seen the musical many years ago,
and still even then I was going, what the hell
(37:52):
am I watching?
Speaker 1 (37:53):
So there you go, Well there's your big thing, because
what the hell am I watching? Gets us to what
happened with Felix Baumbgardner, who passed away earlier today, dying
in a crash in Italy. Apparently he was in a
paraglider and had crashed into the side of a swimming pool.
It just sounds absolutely awful. But you remember Felix Boumdgarter
(38:14):
because he was the guy a decade ago who was
the skydiver who went all the way up in a
balloon twenty four miles above the earth and then did
that free fall. Yeah, and and was the became the
fastest person. It was at fastest person in the world,
you know, to the speed reached because he just free fell.
And then the hope was he'd be able to, you know,
(38:36):
pull his parachute and land very softly. But the worry
was that he could black out. And and as you're
falling to earth and we all watched this, and I
remember seeing this and seeing the video of him stepping
out to jump out and it was. I can still
see it. I can still see and my stomach just go,
oh my god. And I'm you know, seeing the video
of it again now after news that he passed away,
(38:57):
Like there's there's a million things. There's no price, there's
no money, no object, anything in the world you can
give me to say, hey, go do this. Even if
you could guarantee my safety, I guarantee you'll be safe.
I guarantee it no way. I mean, just see seeing
him look down at the Earth like it's colony and
gravity and he's just in this little Ballooney just walks out, Hey,
(39:17):
ready to go, got the red Bull logo on, Yeah,
jumping out and he's spinning, falling all the way to
Earth faster than anybody in history. Like I still vividly
remember this, and I can't get over it. I still can.
I'm gonna see this the rest of my life. And
just to hear that he passed away earlier today, I mean,
this guy was a he was a daredevil, an extreme
athlete to the highest order. Felix Baumgardner.
Speaker 5 (39:37):
Yeah, there's some of that, you know, absolute respect for man.
I just couldn't write whether it was you're doing your
family considerations or you're just you know, self preservation. I
like walking fairly normally. I mean, my knees are not good,
but fine. I can't throw a ball. I've ripped up
my shoulder, but I don't know that.
Speaker 4 (39:58):
I mean, that's not doing anything, that's just life. And
so courting that stuff is curious to me.
Speaker 5 (40:05):
And it's always a wonder of the human brain of
what prompts you to say yes and right. I've got
friends who say my kid's a daredevil, and then they
start describing how, you know, they're on mini cliffs and
they go hiking.
Speaker 4 (40:16):
It's like, hey, I jumped off this rock? What was
it like a hundred? It was like one hundred?
Speaker 5 (40:19):
Fet Like why my kid just felt like they wanted to, Like,
I just don't understand that, but I respect it.
Speaker 1 (40:26):
Exit. How about a fresca exit? Swollen dome, rest and peace.
Felix Paumgartn, who passed away earlier today in an accident
in Italy. Coming up next. Hey, for everybody who's ever
wanted to go back to school, we may have a
story for you. It's coming up next right here. This
is Fox Sports Radar
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on YouTube. All right, well, hold on to your hats,
because I mean really, when I saw today's story, they said,
(01:00):
how much longer can this guy really hold on to
his job? It turns out the answer was about six hours.
So if you remember a week ago, pretty big story,
Pablo Tory. Now, who is your source for everything? Bill Belichick,
Jordan Hudson and the NFL and the NFL Players Association
being in cahoots, had the story a week ago that
(01:23):
a big bombshell story that the NFL and the NFLPA
worked together to keep salaries down in big contracts after
the Deshaun Watson contract was agreed to by the Browns,
where Jimmy Hassel decides, I'm desperate for a quarterback. I'll
give this guy two hundred and forty million dollars in guarantee.
All of it. That upset everybody around the league.
Speaker 4 (01:44):
And the many were vocal about it.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
Yes, Deshaun Watson, Wait wait a minute, And as it
turns out, what Pablo Tory was able to unearth, the
NFL the NFLPA after that was over, according to reports,
worked together to keep guaranteed money. And this isn't an
era in which quarterbacks like Lamar Jackson and Joe Burrow
and Josh Allen all got contract extensions in the years
(02:09):
following to Sean Watson, could they have gotten more Could
they have gotten more money? Could they have pushed the
value up? Potentially? They could have, But now you have
the NFL the NFLPA were working together on this. When
this story broke, I said, they gotta get rid of everybody.
Everybody's gotta be fired. This is you're supposed to be
working for the players. You can't be working in cahoots
(02:30):
with the owners. They're trying to beat you in every
collective bargaining agreement there is. You can't sit here and say, oh,
we'll help you out on this. What are you insane?
And a lot of players didn't know about it, and
it took them a lot by surprise. And I can't
believe that their entire leadership, starting with Lloyd Howell, who
took over for Demorris Smith a couple of years ago,
wasn't ushered out right. I can't believe that didn't happen.
(02:53):
But a week has gone by and I thought, Okay,
let's see how this plays out, because clearly now the
NFL has not been said anything on it because they
can't because they look really bad. Let's see where this goes.
Then today Pablo Tory found out another podcast right breaking
this story that there was an arbitration ruling in February
in accordance to her grievance that the NFL won. What
(03:16):
was this all about? It includes then president J. C.
Treader that encouraged running backs to exaggerate injuries to increase
leverage during contract disputes. Whoa, whoa, wha wait what what? Yeah,
because running backs have very little leverage in contract disputes,
so they were encouraged to exaggerate injuries to help them
in trying to get more money. And when this story
(03:39):
came out to I said, Okay, there's no way the
leadership survived. There's no way. How do you survive this down?
This is not NFL NFLPA, you know together, This is
just now. Hey, we tried to deceive the NFL in this,
and an arbiter ruled in favor for the NFL in this,
and this was not made public. A Pablo Tory, who
is now the most hated man in the NFL, came
(04:01):
out with this. So I saw this earlier today. I said,
there's how has anybody survived this? Well, it turns out
they don't because Lloyd Howell is no longer the director
of the NFLPA. The NFLPA put out a statement about
fifteen minutes ago in which he talked about how he
is resigning from his post and prappy of everything they've
(04:22):
accomplished over the past two years. Rooting for the players
to succeed, but it is clear that my leadership has
become a distraction to the important work the NFLPA advances
every day. And he informed the NFLPA Executive Committee that
he is stepping down as executive director of the NFLPA.
So now suddenly they're looking for new leadership. And honestly, yeah,
(04:43):
this is something that should have happened that day. I
can't believe NFL players haven't. I mean, maybe they were waiting,
maybe they knew, maybe there was all kinds of phone
calls and they were told just chill, just chill, guys
are on vacation. We're going to figure this thing out.
Don't worry, don't worry. But I can't believe there wasn't
a huge sort of of uproar that we need new leadership.
Now when it comes to the fact that, oh, we
(05:03):
were working with the NFL over this, and now we
get outed that we got advice to try to fake injuries,
like whoa, whoa, whoa. You need new leadership from the jump,
from the beginning, and now the NFL the players are
going to get it. Well.
Speaker 5 (05:16):
We've always talked about the disconnect from even in the
quote rank and file system, of the players, right, You're
at different stages of your career, different completely different levels
in terms of your yearly income, your average values, all
of those things that trying to get everybody to agree
on stuff has always been an issue. And I'm gonna
(05:37):
look directly at that middle camera here in the Fox
Sports Radio studios as I say this, Demor Smith. I
haven't read his book yet. So is it better that
he was just incompetent and continually beaten like a drum
by Roger Goodell in the NFL? Or does this mean
you've got to go back and look at any decisions
(05:58):
that were made during his tenure as well? All of
this I'll leave that for the gallery to start talking.
But certainly here we had the reports of conflict of interest,
we have the the history of now, the exaggerated injuries,
all of this trying to get everybody together. There's a
bunch of people that were on the board of directors
(06:19):
for the players side of things that say, well, we
didn't know that we were. They were being told this right,
It's they'd said the quiet part out loud. After the
Deshaun Watson contract, several owners, certainly Baltimore first and foremost
as they were getting ready to deal with Lamar Jackson's contract.
But that was really no secret.
Speaker 4 (06:39):
That there was.
Speaker 5 (06:39):
There were a lot of hand ringing and and upset
owners over what Haslam had to do. That was also
during a time where he was trying to take some
heat off himself. Remember he's he's had a lot of
run ins with authorities himself, so hey, let's get back.
We got a quarterback and that didn't work out quite
so well, and so many levels, but it's the The
(07:02):
union has long been a thing you and I, so
as long as we've been on the air together, and
for years before that just watching how it's been run,
it's always been problematic, always been a disconnect. You talk
to players, Yeah, we never saw anything. We kind of
got bullet points from whoever our team rep was. So
unless they had something where they actively pushed it into
(07:24):
their hands or into their agents' hands to force the issue.
So many a guys, so many guys were ignorant of
what they were voting on because they were afraid of
being bounced out of the league. Right being because next
man up, right, if you're a five to seven year
veteran and you start getting into that next level of
guarantees and pension and all that stuff. The fear is
(07:45):
that they're going to replace with the younger guy. Sounds
familiar for a lot of industries, I know, But yeah,
the purposes of this conversation with the NFL, right, guys
are voting, how do I get to keep my job?
Why do you think the Sam Bradford Giant novelty check
went out business all those years ago? That was the
one time where the veterans actually flex their muscle together
to say, hey, this isn't right these kids. But otherwise
(08:09):
it's always been a disconnect. Wait, we get an extra
day or two off of practice, Yeah, we'll vote for that.
So yeah, the fact that you've got leadership with more
questions and finally the hammer, the sword of Damocles to
vote mister Howell off of the island. Yeah, it's not surprising.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
You know. And this look for it to be a story.
We tell you how big it is, how big a
deal this is. I understand, And we talked about the
story the first time. I get You know, the fans
aren't going to have sympathy because fans always think players
are overpaid, no matter what, right forever fans think players
are overpaid. So you see a story like, hey, collusion
with the players and the players association. I don't care, Yeah,
(08:51):
I just want to win. I don't care what the
players get paid. Oh, here's now, running backs were told
to exaggerate your injuries. Why why maybe harder to come
in and play and so we could win. Like, you're
not gonna get sympathy from the fans if you're talking about, hey,
here's the here's how we're not getting treated in negotiations. Right,
that's very much an inside baseball uh, a story that
just kind of falls on deaf ears with fans a lot.
(09:14):
But you want to know why I think about it
like this? And now you understand, Oh, I get it
if you worked for a union, right, and and you
know many people have been I've been in unions before.
Not in a union now, but I was in a
union in college. I was in a union. And you know,
outside of college, you pay dues and the union supposed
to protect you, supposed to protect you against the company
you work for, against being treated poorly. And look, you
(09:37):
can have your opinion about unions and how how useful
they are, how successful they are. I understand that because
it's people. I'm pro union, I'm anti union. It's fine,
but unions are supposed to be there to protect the employee, right,
This is a union that and said, yeah, yeah, we
got you back, don't worry. Hey, yeah, you're gonna make
sure I can get as much money as I can
from work here, right, whether it's in a bank, or
(09:59):
it's in a TV stud udo, or I'm working, you know,
for a university. You're gonna make sure I get Oh,
of course, gonna take care of you. And then you
find out that, hey, your union worked with your employer
to keep your salaries down. How pissed are you gonna be?
You're gonna be the most pissed guy in the world.
And then it gets out that, oh, other guys were
told to hey, fake injuries, speaking of union situations, faking
(10:21):
injuries to work to so your negotiating ability with with
your company is even better. Think about how backwards that is,
how embarrassing that is. If you're you join a union,
you pay them dues, right, you pay dues, and you
want to Hey, you're gonna take care, You're gonna fight
the battles for me of something. I hope I never
have to use you, but you know you're there for me.
(10:42):
And I get a lawyer, or I get a battle fought,
or if I get if I get disciplined where I
don't think I should anything anything. Unions can can stand
up for you for you find out your unions. Yeah
we're working with the UH, with the company that we're
supposed to be protecting you from. How would you feel
You would feel incredibly betrayed. And that's why this is
such a length show where here's the leadership of the
(11:02):
biggest union in all of sports, it's the NFLPA, where guys,
we know the quality of life they have leaving the
game isn't great, and they want to be taken care
of while they are playing and a bigger piece of
the pie and all these things that they should deserve
because you know, again we talked about this last hour,
what players go through to put their bodies on the
line to play in the NFL. I get it, man, Yeah,
(11:25):
they get paid pretty well, But how do you want
to feel when you're thirty five years old? Right? Understand that, right,
this is what they are exchanging their lives for. And
so yeah, you want to feel like you're taking care
of me I'm gonna come out of this game and
I'm gonna have pain almost every day, and I'm gonna
have to worry about I'm gonna at best, I'm gonna
have to work out and make sure that my body
doesn't betray me and I can still have a really
(11:47):
good quality of life. And you get found out that
oh yeah, yeah, we're keeping the salaries down. Really, I
mean that's I can't understand how it's not a complete
We are ousting everybody, and we're gonna go outside to
bring in somebody to come run that. I've heard seen
Tony Dungee's name out there a lot on social media.
He should come in and run like this is one
of those you know, to compare it to politics, where hey,
(12:09):
I don't like what I've seen. You know, I can't
believe this happened. And now we're moving on from a
really embarrassing situation. We need somebody out of house to
come in to take over here. We didn't outside the
box candidate to come in and run things, because this
is just We've been betrayed on all levels. So now
maybe it is somebody who's not involved in the NFLPA.
Maybe it isn't but maybe somebody like Tony Dungee, who
(12:31):
knows what it could be. Who knows who could wind
up coming back out saying, yeah, I want to go
do this. Maybe it's a former player, maybe Tom Brady
decides I want to go do this, right, Who knows.
But you need some kind of new leadership to come
in that has no ties to the old leadership to
come in and fix this thing, because this is an
absolute blank show. And I'm embarrassed for the players. I'm
embarrassed for the NFLPA that this is what's been going
(12:54):
on for the past couple of years. I mean, my goodness,
is this bad?
Speaker 5 (12:57):
Well, but it's it all goes back again where you know,
to the prior leadership and some of the decisions and
concessions made for minimal gains. Right, you bring up the
health insurance and health part of things, which is always
a sticking point when we're talking about the CBA as
much as you do, because as you said, it's the
to mix sports, the inside baseball and the eyes glaze
(13:20):
over no matter how important the business part of it is,
you know, in terms of this multi billion dollar pie
that continues to grow, But it is that idea of hey,
we accepted an extra day off. We did this right,
because the eighteenth game is coming, So what's the concession?
There is there a concession because based on the current CBA,
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they can force that on them with no no real
change to anything in terms of other parts of the
language and any other concessions for the players, like, hey,
you'll get an extra check. That's great, But that that
that's the extent of it. So it's it's the curiosity
next of how they proceed in these processes. There've been
(14:01):
a couple of names mentioned. You mentioned Dongee, I've seen
Davis's name. But there's guys that are still peripherally attached
to what's going on because you want some level of
institutional knowledge and where the proverbial bodies are buried in
past negotiations, but only to a degree, because if you
knew too many of those instances, well then you're complicit
(14:25):
in the entire shady shadiness.
Speaker 4 (14:27):
Of it all.
Speaker 5 (14:28):
So this is a big story as we're on the
dawning of a new training camp run and a quick
sprint towards you know that game in Brazil Hall of
Fame game is what the thirty first So a lot
to take care of. And I'm surprised this didn't happen
on a Friday night though, so Thursday night, so you
still get everybody's gonna take their big swings at it.
Speaker 4 (14:50):
In the NFL. I have to wear it at least
for one day.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
Yeah, look, I mean this definitely has the hallmarks of
a Hey, we're gonna do this thing Friday night at
like ten thirty. I'm gonna walk away. But I mean,
I think after the story today, what else could you do?
Maybe there's something coming out tomorrow. I'm gonna resign to
night because tomorrow tomorrow, Wait, do you see the news
stump tomorrow and what's going he.
Speaker 5 (15:13):
See I got out before it got really really bad.
But no, I mean we've been waiting on this. The
last couple of weeks started to swell. Torre and Florio
getting after it in terms of their reporting and being
you know, pretty dogged in their the research and fight
for this, and I it is a big deal, right,
conflict of interest. We we talked about it a lot also,
(15:33):
Jason with the uh, you know this guy taking less money,
Tom Brady's name, who you invoked always like no other
guys are gonna get paid. It's not the one player,
it's if it's a full class or position of players.
You know, like this running back thing that actually creates
an issue.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
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as the WNBA kareems towards their All Star weekend and
number one they will do it without Caitlin Clark right,
this is the worst nightmare for the WNBA. You know
we talked about this last night, like the groin injury
that's going to keep her out that she suffered late
in there win over the Connecticut Sun a couple of
(17:59):
nights ago, no three point contest for her, no game
this weekend. She's gonna help coach the team. And uh,
this is just an absolute nightmare. Because look, the WNBA,
however you want to slice it, you know, they were
looking forward to this event being the All Star Game
(18:21):
with Caitlin Clark in her backyard where everybody gets on
the same page. Right. We had a year of silliness
and and and and and out and out ridiculousness of
of of hate of Caitlin Clark, and and and whether
it's jealousy because whether it's racial, whether it's just she
doesn't deserve the attention she's getting. Whatever it is, we
had it. But now you're gonna put an event on
(18:43):
that the entire world is gonna watch. It's the middle
of the summer, it's the WNBA All Star Game. Nobody
gets people to the television better than Caitlin Clark does
in any sport. Sorry, but it's the truth. That's why
we said she was magic and Larry coming into the
league a year ago. But now people are jumping on that.
So it's okay. Uh so this was gonna be it.
This is where everybody, even the biggest haters, the big
(19:03):
the players and the coaches who didn't like her the most,
are gonna understand. Okay, she really is the show. She
is the hood ornament of this league. She is she Okay,
I understand. I'm on board now because everything she does
it's good for the league. I have to stop that
whatever petty jealousiness and either it's on the court that
(19:24):
we're gonna that I'm gonna show what kind of a
player I am. I'm gonna do my own thing to
try to cut through and be a star because clearly
there's so many more uh uh, so many more chances.
I have to get attention, to get relevance, for people
to pay attention to me, because more people are watching
this league than at any other time. Okay, and you
know this was the time where the WNBA is gonna
(19:44):
say this is how we're doing it. We're putting on
a big event and it's gonna be the Caitlin Clark Show.
And now she's injured and she's not gonna be available,
and it's just a huge, huge blow. Look, it sucks.
There's nothing I could say because this was a huge
mischance that the WNBA was gonna have.
Speaker 5 (19:59):
Fortunately, they've got some others that have broken through. I mean,
you lean into Angel reesent her nearly thirteen boards a
game and getting to be a better shooter, better player.
We talked about it a little bit yesterday in terms
of her approach this year. Team has its issues, but
I get it done. I mean Collier and Wilson, Kelsey Plumb.
I'd mike her up for every minute she's on the court,
(20:22):
just recognizing you maybe pay a couple of FCC fines
or you need to be on a seven to forty
five second delay with her.
Speaker 4 (20:28):
You're gonna have fun with it.
Speaker 5 (20:30):
Page backers, whoever else, Sabrina, you go on down the line.
Speaker 4 (20:34):
You've got to pivot.
Speaker 5 (20:35):
So now it's the how quickly can we get montages
together of greatness for them? That will supersede a lot
of the Caitlin Clark packages that you would have had,
because otherwise you got to start playing that sad Sarah
McLaughlin song over those highlights.
Speaker 4 (20:51):
I will remember, Oh.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
Suddenly, now it's an infomercial late at night and I'm
looking at at animals that oh, look at this, he's
not the.
Speaker 4 (21:02):
Right Who do we sell?
Speaker 5 (21:04):
I mean I don't listen to a lot of the
podcasts or or follow a lot of the TikTokers. I mean,
Sophie Cunningham's obviously had her run. In terms of the
w NBA regular season. I don't know which of the
All Stars have I have that kind of heat on
social media, but damn.
Speaker 4 (21:19):
It, I'd be leaning into it as hard as I
could right now if I'm the.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
Yeah, look, obviously there's other players that are gonna spotlight, right,
Angel Reese and Kelsey Plumb. Uh, these are gonna be
two players that that and they have cut through even
more this year, Angel Reesel coming in with Katela Clark
obviously the Angel Rees Caitlin Clark debate. Hey, let's pit
women against each other? Right, Like, why do we do that?
But the biggest thing that I'll tell you is is
you want Caitlin Clark to be as much a part
(21:42):
of this as possible. Of course I would say, listen, hey,
I know you want to coach, but instead you're gonna
be on the air with us. You're gonna be on
the broadcast. You're gonna be in the booth and we're
gonna be talking to you the entire time. That's what
we want you to do. That's what's gonna help the
w NBA. Is it really gonna help that you're gonna
get a cutaway of Caitlyn Clark helping to coach because
you know she's gonna be out on the floor like
she is the coach, right, you know she's gonna be
(22:04):
out there arguing like she is actually coaching the team.
Speaker 4 (22:06):
She's gonna get thrown out.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
But but no, but I mean, really, okay, hey, you
really want to do it. You're on the broadcast, and
not that it's the same thing. It would have been
an All Star game. You know, obviously Caitlin Clark would
get a lot of minutes, but it's a lot of
players going in and out of the game and coming
back in. But you want her to be front and set.
You put her on during the three point shooting contest,
you put her on during the game. She is she
(22:28):
has a headset on and you are showing her on
TV while she's watching it like this is what you're
doing for the All Star Game. She's not playing but
she is, it's gonna be she's gonna get more screen
time and you're gonna hear from her more than if
she actually was playing. And it doesn't matter if she's
saying anything incredible. It doesn't matter if she's you know, saying, oh,
this place, she stinks. I lit her up for thirty
(22:50):
last time we played it. It doesn't matter. But just
having her there is gonna get people to the to
the broadcast. I would say, yeah, I know you want
to coach, but you gotta be on the broadcast.
Speaker 5 (22:58):
Yeah, life gives you lemon's do your best to make
some lemonade. Tell her nothing's off off off limits. I'm
gonna tee you up about officiating.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
Oh that's all we're gonna talk about. That's all kind of.
Speaker 4 (23:10):
Officiating on you.
Speaker 5 (23:12):
And I'm gonna read you some quotes by some of
your colleagues that are playing in this year game right now,
and you can shout them out as we as we
go through. But yeah, you've got to figure out a
way to involve her, because it's all about figuring out
how to get more casual folks are peripheral folks to
give you a few extra minutes diehards were already gonna
(23:32):
be there regardless of Caitlin Clark's appearance last year into
the league, this year, whatever. You've had this exponential growth
and this was gonna be a big topic for you
and a big opportunity to push forward show proof of
concept again to the marketability on the bigger stage and
(23:52):
keep pet catapulting.
Speaker 4 (23:53):
We talked about it.
Speaker 5 (23:54):
With the TV deal already signed, that's great, but it's
all the ancillary extras that you're still pushing for and
to you know, give, you know, make good kind of
moments to those people that are backing you and coming
to the fray. And part of that is the show itself,
and Caitlin Clark is the show. Take nothing away from
the rest of these women. They're doing a hell of
(24:15):
a job and we've chronicled it our entire time here
at Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 4 (24:20):
But we know that the stakes have raised.
Speaker 1 (24:23):
And you know, it's funny to go to this part
of the topic now that I'm saying, hey, here's this
big together moment right that the NWNBA was looking forward
to and now it's out the window. But get her
on the broadcast, right it. But it plays into it so.
Speaker 5 (24:34):
I have to say this, but I really well, it
was a big get together the moment.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
Yeah, look they did it. Look WNBA. Yeah, in advance
of the All Star Game. As we've heard over the
course of the past few days, they're getting set for
their new collective bargaining agreement. As we heard from many players,
they said, hey, this is going to be a spicy negotiation.
They want more. They know how marketable the league is now.
And they had their first face to face meeting today
in Indianapolis, but they didn't get any close to do
(25:00):
a new deal. The WNBA is not happy the so
the players are not happy. The current CBA is going
to expire at the end of this year, so they
really have the clock ticking to get it done. So
so far day one of the meetings and it didn't
go great. Okay, So now that being said, right, I mean,
I know I feel kind of petty at this point,
(25:21):
but this is what I this is what I really want,
is that you know, with this happening right now and
with the with the WNBA, the players Union trying to
find this. If I'm Caitlin Clark and you know that
they are going to try to put me front and center.
You know they're gonna want to talk to me. They're
going to want to make me part of negotiations. If
I'm Caitlin Clark. I find everybody in that room that
(25:44):
I know is not a fan of mine or is
hesitant to give me credit for the success for whatever reason,
because it doesn't let them justify their jobs. It's jealousy.
I want to stand up and I say, okay, here,
weet before we get down to business. I want to
say one thing. Everybodybody listening. Yeah, yeah, oh now you
want my help. Oh now I'm great. Right now I'm
(26:04):
the league. Oh now I'm so good. Now you can't
wait to have me out there? No, now, I do
so much. I thought it was everybody else. Why don't
you call Angel. Get Angel in here and do this.
Get Kelsey Plumbing here to do things. Get Brianna Stewart
to come here, Get all these players, get Cheryl Reeve
to come in here and help out. I'm just one player.
What could I possibly want? I make sure I make
(26:27):
eye contact with everybody I know feels that way, just
so I get that. Okay, now, get that out of
the way, tension breaker. I feel good. It was just
it was just building up for me. Now I'm read. Now,
now let's have negotiations. But I want you to know.
Oh now you want me. Now I'm now suddenly. Oh
look how valuable we are because I'm here in the league.
And now you want now you want me to help
make everybody rich? Oh okay, now you got just understand that.
(26:51):
Now you want I really want to see and I
want to be a fly on the wall for that.
Speaker 5 (26:55):
And say what time does the team plane leave as
opposed to when do you fly out of terminal fighting?
Speaker 1 (27:02):
Hey, we can leave here one of two ways on
a charter flight, or you guys could book it yourself.
Here you go Expedia. I'll give you guys the phone
number right now, go ahead, try to get out of here.
Speaker 4 (27:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (27:12):
The the estimate right now from Bloomberg is that w
NBA players receive an estimated nine point three percent of
lead revenue. Now, it's been well chronicled the losses that
have been sustained through the years. But now you're in
a new era of health and expansion growth. You see
what it costs you to bring in a new franchise. Yeah,
(27:33):
you are you gonna give her a crown? That says
queen petty on it. She's gonna steal one from Chelsea
Green of the WWE. And you know she only come
walking in with a giant bedazzled hat.
Speaker 7 (27:45):
You know, Now, I go, I gotta say, I gotta
say because yes, generally, generally when you are petty about stuff,
you regret it in the end.
Speaker 1 (27:57):
Right, Yeah, you know what? It was an itch I
had describe at the end, I'm like, Wow, would I
do that over again? No, No, this is something we're
absolutely be petty, absolutely one hundred be one hundred percent petty.
Go Okay, So now because you're not really being petty,
you're kind of saying, oh wait, so which is just
let me know? Just let me know what I am. Am
I really really important to the league or is it
everybody else and I'm being overrated and all this? Just
(28:19):
let me know what it is. Just let me know
where you need me to be for this, right because honestly,
and I would feel really good about that. I feel Ah,
I'm glad I got that out. All right, Great, now
let's get down to business. Okay, Way, Cheryl Reeve, why
are you leaving? Why?
Speaker 2 (28:31):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (28:31):
I didn't mean yu come on just because I traded
you as a coach doesn't mean where you guys go
or are you guys going? I really I would like
to see that.
Speaker 5 (28:38):
Yeah, they want to do a luxury tax situation for
the salary cap and everything else is what the league's proposing,
much like the NBA model about yeah, Caitlin Clark being
in the room where it happens. I want to know
who the other team reps are, Like, we know they're
forty for Martin's report, but who.
Speaker 4 (28:58):
Are the people that are charged?
Speaker 5 (28:59):
Because this coming out of what we were talking about
with the NFL, I guarantee it dann Tee a bunch
of those guys that were team reps, and certainly the
guys that they were elected to the board, they.
Speaker 4 (29:08):
Ain't gonna be there by the end of the week. Wnba. Hey,
history is watching you here.
Speaker 1 (29:16):
Oh man exit? How about a Fresca exit swollen Dome?
The Jason Smith Show with my best friend Mike Harmon,
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Speaker 3 (29:28):
That's right, Mike Harmon, you said it just a second ago.
There were more than forty w NBA players gathered Thursday
for a meeting between the WNBA and the Players Association.
It was the biggest in person player turnout in union
history during CBA talks, and the first that they've had
thus far. The two sides left with no resolution. I
imagine ANC totally the biggest one hat to have been
(29:49):
during COVID twenty twenty that was on zoom. So that's
why they clarify as the in person actually covered some
of those meetings. NFLPA Executive Director Lloyd Howell announced that
he'll be stepping down from the position, stating quote, it's
clear my leadership has become a distraction. Submit reports that
Howell played a part in a collusion ruling being hidden
and Gron guaranteeing contracts. Hall also had a conflict of
(30:12):
interest with private equity groups who have been granted permission
to buy parts of NFL teams. Adam Schefter is reporting
that this decision for Howell to step down was his
decision and his loan. Nine times NBA all stared Damian
Lillard finalizing a three year, forty two million dollar contract
to return to the Portland Trailblazers. That deal expected to
(30:34):
include a player option in twenty twenty seven, twenty twenty
eight and a no trade clause.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
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Watte become the highest paid quarterback in the NFL history,
and not for the first time in his career, but
for the second, which spawned JJ Watt to put on
Instagram never touching my wallet again.
Speaker 1 (30:51):
Didn't he say, Hey, if this guy even makes me
reach my wallet, next time we.
Speaker 3 (30:55):
Go talk with the watch, that reaching for my wallet.
And you know what, my little brother's hundred three year,
one hundred and twenty three million dollar extension, one hundred
and eight of that fully guaranteed. I'd be okay with
that forty one million dollars a year. You can buy
me lunch, anybody lunch for that matter. At the Open,
there's a five way tie at the top of the
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Roy McElroy three shots back. Phil Mickelson had a one
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Speaker 1 (31:34):
Very good Thank you very much. The Jason Smithzer with
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Speaker 1 (32:07):
The Jason Smith Show with my best friend Mike Harmon. Uh, well,
we'll remember an absolute legend coming up in a couple
of minutes. But look, the biggest story in entertainment over
the last few hours, The Stephen Colbear Show is ending. Yeah,
Seas is pulling the plug on the Late Show and yeah, no,
(32:30):
it's it's done.
Speaker 4 (32:32):
He's done.
Speaker 5 (32:32):
Well, they are actually doing that to the uh yeah,
to the time slot in the concept.
Speaker 1 (32:36):
Yeah, and that and that's the thing is that, you know,
you talk about being ahead of the curve right this
season on Hacks, Right, the Hacks is one of the
best comedies that this season wasn't quite as good a season,
but the Jean Smart Henna Einbinder, it's a phenomenal comedy.
It's and Geen Smart is a Vegas comedian who is
trying to you know, in her seventies, who still is
(32:59):
always wanted to be a host in late night television
and she didn't get a chance. She was kept out
of the chair by by men on the course of
her career. I mean, it's phenomenal show, and it's funny,
and it's it's you know, no matter what generation you are,
there's stuff there for you. It's just really well done.
And the whole thing is she is you know she's
up for well, I won't ruin it if we haven't
(33:19):
seen the show. She's up. She eventually gets up for
the job of late night host. Right, she's up for
the job a late night host, and she finds out
that it's not really that she's competing against anybody, it's
that the network that is that she's doing it for
is either gonna have her do the late night show
and continue on or cancel the show all together and
(33:42):
get out of the late night business and put something
else on the air. Then and it was like and
it was a shock. It's like, hey, we're not choosing
somebody else. It's either you do it or you know,
we're gonna end it. We're gonna end the show. And
I'm like, wow, I remember when that happened, saying, I
wonder how close that is. Network's already doing that, you know,
with the Leno thing that didn't work and they let
him go and now the whole different late night stuff
(34:04):
and fallon and and now how healthy is late night programming?
I wonder if if a company's ever really gonna do that,
And CBS is doing it right. They're they're ending the
franchise after thirty years on it. There's not gonna be
another late show after not a new host. They're ending
the franchise, and there's gonna be some other kind of
programming that goes there. And you know, I sit here
(34:25):
and go, boy, you know people that are up at
night and entertainment, And that's why you want to talk
about it here a bit, because you know people, if
you're up now, maybe you're watching the Late Show. You
watch it at some point or you watch the clips
the next day. It's it's really sad to see that, Hey,
here's a show that that gave that that you know,
gains a lot of attention. But for whatever reason, hey
(34:45):
and and probably monetary, it's just not worth it for
us to be in this business anymore. So, Yeah, we're
not going to have the Late Show anymore. You have
to wonder how how long till other eleven thirty shows
are no longer going to be on the air. There,
that's a scary it's a scary moment today.
Speaker 5 (35:01):
Well, something we've talked about a lot, right the changing
face of media, how people are consuming stuff. We talked
about a lot Tuesday with the All Star Game from
Major League Baseball that while you had your peak of
eight point one million viewers during the swing off, a
lot of what you were gonna get was trying to
figure out the traction of all of those huge moments
(35:21):
that went viral, from the Clayton Kershaw two thirty seven
interview that we played to guys getting hit by pitches,
to Freddie Freeman walking off, to all the in game
interviews of the other players, and the stand up to
cancer the ludicrous like you just had all of that,
and that's what Late Night has kind of become as well.
For a lot of these shows, you're seeing the clips
(35:42):
before it even hits their airing time. And Colbert in
his statement again Northwestern guys, I knew a guy that
wrote for the show for a while. They got two
hundred people working there. Yeah, that's a lot of people.
So there's a lot of people now looking for jobs.
But it also pulls back the curtain on you need
(36:02):
a two hundred people to do the show.
Speaker 4 (36:05):
I just I don't know.
Speaker 5 (36:07):
I mean, I haven't seen the depth chart and whatever.
Obviously I sit and watch for any semblance of an
extra quasi scene.
Speaker 4 (36:15):
They'll get me at the end of the movie.
Speaker 5 (36:17):
So I watch the hard work and all the people
that have been there, from the gaffer down to the
fifteen drivers on a set.
Speaker 4 (36:24):
I respect them all. But to run that show two hundred.
Speaker 5 (36:28):
People, wow, I mean, if that's legit, and that number
that he put out there is part of the like,
that's a lot of salaries, that's a lot of a
lot of process, And I feel for all those people,
no question about it.
Speaker 4 (36:42):
But you can understand where a network.
Speaker 5 (36:43):
Might say, well, do we get the bang for the
buck anymore?
Speaker 1 (36:47):
Yeah? Yeah, I mean that's a tough thing. It's a
tough thing to see, man, but great, hey, no matter
what side of the aisle you are down to, you know,
seeing something like this, it's like, here's another option that
is now not there because it's just not worth How
many people will blame Cordon even though oh yeah yeah, yeah,
yeah yeah, it's all yeah, it's all Cordon's fault. Yeah
he was. We're fine until he decided to leave and
(37:08):
all of a sudden, you know, all this different stuff
and being a top of tour buses with the Avengers.
Come on, man, we need stuff like that.
Speaker 5 (37:14):
That's what it is, or it was something that you know,
his his staffing begat other issues. I don't know, but
he's returning to Broadway this this fall with Abby kind
of Alli and Patrick Harris Cats too, right, No, yeah, yeah, well,
I mean that would be funny.
Speaker 4 (37:29):
I mean it's really trippy.
Speaker 5 (37:30):
Like I don't smoke or do any of that, and
I really don't drink anymore, but I remember watching Cats.
It actually showed up in my timeline of something I
sat with the kids because they were moderately interested in
when it hit streaming, and we looked at each other, going,
what the hell are we watching? And I knew the play,
you know the play. I'd seen the musical many years ago,
and still even then I was going, what the hell
(37:52):
am I watching?
Speaker 1 (37:53):
So there you go, Well there's your big thing, because
what the hell am I watching? Gets us to what
happened with Felix Baumbgardner, who passed away earlier today, dying
in a crash in Italy. Apparently he was in a
paraglider and had crashed into the side of a swimming pool.
It just sounds absolutely awful. But you remember Felix Boumdgarter
(38:14):
because he was the guy a decade ago who was
the skydiver who went all the way up in a
balloon twenty four miles above the earth and then did
that free fall. Yeah, and and was the became the
fastest person. It was at fastest person in the world,
you know, to the speed reached because he just free fell.
And then the hope was he'd be able to, you know,
(38:36):
pull his parachute and land very softly. But the worry
was that he could black out. And and as you're
falling to earth and we all watched this, and I
remember seeing this and seeing the video of him stepping
out to jump out and it was. I can still
see it. I can still see and my stomach just go,
oh my god. And I'm you know, seeing the video
of it again now after news that he passed away,
(38:57):
Like there's there's a million things. There's no price, there's
no money, no object, anything in the world you can
give me to say, hey, go do this. Even if
you could guarantee my safety, I guarantee you'll be safe.
I guarantee it no way. I mean, just see seeing
him look down at the Earth like it's colony and
gravity and he's just in this little Ballooney just walks out, Hey,
(39:17):
ready to go, got the red Bull logo on, Yeah,
jumping out and he's spinning, falling all the way to
Earth faster than anybody in history. Like I still vividly
remember this, and I can't get over it. I still can.
I'm gonna see this the rest of my life. And
just to hear that he passed away earlier today, I mean,
this guy was a he was a daredevil, an extreme
athlete to the highest order. Felix Baumgardner.
Speaker 5 (39:37):
Yeah, there's some of that, you know, absolute respect for man.
I just couldn't write whether it was you're doing your
family considerations or you're just you know, self preservation. I
like walking fairly normally. I mean, my knees are not good,
but fine. I can't throw a ball. I've ripped up
my shoulder, but I don't know that.
Speaker 4 (39:58):
I mean, that's not doing anything, that's just life. And
so courting that stuff is curious to me.
Speaker 5 (40:05):
And it's always a wonder of the human brain of
what prompts you to say yes and right. I've got
friends who say my kid's a daredevil, and then they
start describing how, you know, they're on mini cliffs and
they go hiking.
Speaker 4 (40:16):
It's like, hey, I jumped off this rock? What was
it like a hundred? It was like one hundred?
Speaker 5 (40:19):
Fet Like why my kid just felt like they wanted to, Like,
I just don't understand that, but I respect it.
Speaker 1 (40:26):
Exit. How about a fresca exit? Swollen dome, rest and peace.
Felix Paumgartn, who passed away earlier today in an accident
in Italy. Coming up next. Hey, for everybody who's ever
wanted to go back to school, we may have a
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