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we are getting ready for a fourth of July. That's
gonna be hot, right. We got the hot dog eating
contest which will be chestnut back.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
Hot.
Speaker 4 (01:09):
Hot is hot hot, hot, so damn hot, but maybe
not as hot as the as the two basketball takes
that are gonna take center stage over the course of
the next twenty four hours.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
Okay, you're gonna be.
Speaker 5 (01:22):
Hotter than my Caitlin Clark was rated properly based on
that fourteen or fifteen point win the other day.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
It's it's you're you're, you're in the right ballpark because
it does have to do with Caitlin Clark. Okay, okay,
which is going to be the hotter take? Right? You
look at the big headline of the front page at
ESPN dot com right now, Dallas Wings beat the Phoenix
Mercury ninety eight eighty nine. Another big night for Paige Becker.
She goes for twenty three in the win. What will
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be the hotter take a page? Beckers greater than Caitlyn Clark? Oh?
Is it be? After the fever absolutely thump the Las
Vegas Aces tonight and Asia Wilson really the only one
showing up. She had twenty nine and the next best
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person on the the Aces had six. Jackie Young had six.
She had twenty nine. Jackie Young's got six without Caitlin Clark.
The fever jump out to a huge lead, they never
look back and they win it eighty one point fifty four.
Hot take number two. Fever are better without Caitlin Clark.
(02:33):
Love it is it? Both both A and B are correct?
Like which hot take is gonna get more attention? Wrong?
Page Beckers better than Caitlyn Clark or Fever are a
better team without Kitlyn Clark.
Speaker 5 (02:47):
People are gonna take calls as to what the best
hot dog condiment is and what the best side dishes.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
They're not talking about that.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
So Monday, just to let you know if the answer,
the answer is mustard onions and okay, now go ahead.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
There you go.
Speaker 5 (03:02):
I would say the more inscendiary would be the Page
Beckers because you want to talk about a team and
where you're at in terms of flow, you can just
make the argument, well, it's a different look because you
have different responsibilities wherever you could.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
Argue that away.
Speaker 5 (03:19):
But if you go player to player, NA, that's with
the bread and butter man, that's the bread and butter
at how about a Presco it's wing on at Fox
Sports Radio. But yeah, she's been fantastic, there's no question
about it. The Aces now are eight to nine. So
while This win is big because it takes the fever
over five hundred at what nine and eight. It's against
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a team that has been great, but they may have.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
Lost the soul in their squad to Los Angeles. How
about that?
Speaker 1 (03:48):
Wow? I'll tell you how about that? Kelsey Plum has
been a lot of fun. She is stepping it. Hey,
I don't care what people are saying about Caitlin Clark.
She's got the right attitude. Hey, I want to be
a star. More people are watching me now that ever
watched me. I'm gonna do some things to make myself
stand out. She is, and I'll tell you I think
the rest of the league might hate her too. She's like, what,
the second leading scorer at guard and she was like
(04:10):
fourteenth on the players voting for her for Come on, man,
what is going on?
Speaker 3 (04:14):
What is that moment the other day that was great? Right?
Speaker 5 (04:17):
That woman showed up and wanted a picture and she
threw a shirt at her. So put this on and
then we can talk and you're for the wrong team.
Let's go so having fun with it. Not so much
with autograph seekers outside hotel. But you can go to
the podcast and find all of that discussion that we
had last week. But all of that to say, right,
he got a bit of a topsy turvy league, which
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gives you a bunch of headlines. And while Clark is sidelined,
the shoes sold out. Did you see that on Monday?
One hundred and ninety bucks? It was gone in thirty seconds.
I did not win the lottery to make it or
quadruple my money, unfortunately, though I did try.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
Although I would have looked good in those Kobe's.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
Let me tell you now, I'm gonna say the second
one is gonna be the hotter take, even though it's
completely erroneous, right because Paige Beckers, honestly, she's been better
than I thought she'd be so far this year she's
been like I thought, Okay, Paige Beckers, you know I
had a great senior year. But really it's the culmination
of her career, the adversity she overcame. Okay, number one
overall pick she she was next. Uh look, obviously, Juju
(05:17):
Watkins getting hurt was a killer in the NCAA tournament,
and how exciting she was. And now we gotta wait
for her to come back and then play a whole
nother year. But Paige Beckers. Hey, she's had a terrific career.
I did not think she'd be able to come in
and be this dynamic right off the bat. But she
has been on a team where hey, Rikio Gunbawally says,
I take the shots on this team. That's right, that's great,
but I take the shots right now. She hasn't had
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a great start and she's been out, but you know,
I take the shots. So she's she's much better than
I thought she would be at this point. I thought
she'd be a really good, really terrific player. But she's
really jumped in right away and jumped into the WNBA
and is a little bit more dominant than I thought.
Speaker 5 (05:53):
But so have the odd odd convergence of circumstances. They
got four starters that are all rookie.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
Yeah, Dallas, well, because they've stunk for a long time,
you know, Yeah, they've still they've been bad for a while. Yeah.
I mean, we're starting right from it, and there is
less pressure on Page Beckers as much as as she
comes in as the number one overall pick, She's not
coming in like Caitlyn Clark. She's able to do it
a little bit more at her own pace. She's not
asked to win big right away because look, Dallas has
(06:21):
been bad. Okay, Caitlyn Clark has been right away, save us,
save the league. Okay, that's a page. Beckers, Hey come
in and be a star. There's a little bit of
a different thing when when when you're talking about hey,
come in and be a star versus come in and
save this entire.
Speaker 3 (06:34):
Thing, will be good versus you know, lift us up. Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
Now there's now there's a couple of things like this
is why this whole Caitlyn Clark. They're better without Caitlyn Clark. Okay,
just stop for one second. First thing is this, Yes,
anytime a star player is out, any team worth their
salt that cares bands together and gives you a great effort. Right,
we see it, we say when Halliburton is that what
was out, the Pacers were able to stay close and
(07:00):
keep it going for a while, Right, we see that.
It happens. Right, Good teams don't just become bad teams
when a star is hurt, but for a short period
of time, because eventually teams are gonna see what you're
doing there. Okay, you're missing your star. We're gonna be
able to exploit that because Caitlyn Clark is the show
and she is that great. But for a short period
of time, Yeah, without your best player. And it's not
(07:23):
like you don't have a lot of talent on this roster, right,
and Leah Boston is terrific, Kelsey Mitchell is tripping at
twenty five and twenty points to night Right. Sophie Cunningham
still coming off the bench, didn't have a great night,
but a huge plus minus night right. So you still
have really good players for a short amount of time. Yeah,
you can do this now. Eventually, if they're without Kitlyn
Clark for months, you'll see that the Fever will sit
(07:43):
around five hundred gold. Boy, why aren't they better? Teams
are figuring them out when when you're missing your most
dynamic player and a player who's gonna lead the league
in assists and can hit threes from the logo, Yeah,
we're gonna figure out a way to guard you a
little bit more. Right. I told you that the Fever
struggling their record wise beginning the year, Caitlyn Clark being
hurt and trying to assimilate these new pieces, it was
(08:04):
going to make them struggle a little bit. So The
first thing I'm gonna tell you is that this is
a natural. This is not all of a sudden Kaylyn Clark,
she's so overrated. No, We've seen this time and again
in sports, when a star player gets hurt for a
short amount of time, you will see that that team
band together and say, Okay, let's give it everything we got.
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Let's be hyper focused on this, and let's make sure
we're doing everything even more to the extent that we're
at because we want to show that, hey, we can
do this. So yeah, for a short amount of time,
this is not surprising.
Speaker 5 (08:37):
Does this also show once and for all, I mean,
based on your slam this sucker down tour, that you
had Caitlyn Clark on, that you vexed her and killed
her shot, that her team rallied around to show their
worth in this space Again, I'm really also fueled the
fever to a whole other level.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
Best defender in the WNBA. That's me by I slowed
Caitlin Clark down all by myself. And I don't mean
the injury. I mean not being able to THREEZ when
I said here comes the Caitlin Clark middle finger revenge story.
You see what things are gonna go yeah, right after that,
she just hit the skids. I am the best defender
in the w NBA. I'm like, I'm like a I'm
(09:17):
like the radio version of a guy whose wingspan is
like twelve feet and and and I'm like six nine
and and and and my I can get in front
of any pass and you're not gonna be able to
get by me and be able to body you and
keep you in front of me. I am the radio
equivalent of that kind of defender. That's me.
Speaker 5 (09:35):
That huge wingspan, I mean that'll sew. I mean you
have no vertical so you got to make it up somewhere.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
Now, look, the other part is this, Now, this is
this is where I'm gonna throw a curveball at you here. Right,
We've talked for a long time about how you look.
And you've seen the perceived jealousy of Caitlin Clark right
from three or three. And I can't I say perceived,
because not every player is jealous of Caitlyn Clark, but
a lot of them are. The coaches are jealous of
Caitlin Clark and the attention that she's getting. However, you
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want to break it down, whether it's a race angle,
whether it's a respect angle, whether it's a we don't
believe she deserves to do this. Even though she's getting
the league, expansion teams and charter flights, she's doing it
all by herself.
Speaker 3 (10:15):
Right.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
There is that out there, right, And we talked about
this a week ago that that's not going anywhere. Right.
The hate of Caitlyn Clark or the jealousy of her,
that's going to continue. You saw it in the voting
for All Stars. You're going to see it manifest itself
in many different ways. But this is where I mean
to think about this for a second. Every time the
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Fever come and play somebody, right, this is like when
the champs roll through town. Right, anytime the defending champs
roll through town. All right, these are the champs. We're
gonna get out there and give them our best game.
And you see, this is why defending NBA champions, defending
NFL champions have a tough time staying having the record
they did a year ago, because hey, we know now
going in we're getting everybody's best shot, because they're hyper
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focused to come play us, because this is the chance
where the this is the champs come this isn't just
some crazy ass team whatever. We had a game. It's
a Friday night, you know. No, when the champs come in,
it's a different thing. Right, when the Fever play, it's
the same thing because it's Caitlyn Clark and it's Caitlyn
Clark is here. Yeah, you know, I really want to
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make sure we are going to go and the Fever
are gonna get everybody's best effort every single night, right,
because we want to beat Caitlin Clark. I want to
show you, Hey, there's two million people watching on I'm
whatever it is, Hey, I want to go have a
big night. I want to show you how good I am.
I want to make sure we're bodying Caitlyn Clark and
we're physically we're all of this. The Fever are getting
(11:43):
everybody's best shot, right, everybody's best shot. But here she
is out for a few games and the Fever are winning,
and not only that, they're winning big right, Like I wonder, like,
you know, watching some of this game tonight, like the
Aces were out of it ear, I'm like, wow, this
is they're just they're just no one's even showing up
for this game. Like I wonder how much of it is, Hey,
(12:05):
Caitlyn Clark's not playing, so it's just another game on
the schedule, And because the Fever are more talented than
you than you than you think they realize they are,
because they have former Rookies of the Year and they
did make big moves to bring players in, and players
like Lexie Huller playing better. Hey, you don't realize the
Fever are better than you even think they are. But
I wonder if there's that correlation where, hey, Caitlyn Clark's
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not playing, so, yeah, you're not going to get our
best effort tonight. Like I really wonder if Kaitlyn Clark
was playing. Do the Aces come in having a having
a really difficult season so far, where the moves they've
made haven't worked and they're trying to figure out they're
one season removed from a championship, trying to figure out
how things are gonna go, and yeah, oh no Caitlyn tonight,
so we have we're a no show in this game.
(12:47):
I really wonder how much there is to that.
Speaker 5 (12:49):
Yeah, I mean, I think you got a great convergence
of circumstance here, right, You can make money playing against
Caitlyn Clark. Right, we just announced three more teams, either
the Valkyries or Up and running and doing great. You
got three more franchises. That's a lot of jobs. That's
a lot of playing time that folks that are a
fringe starter's high bench minutes can go and maybe find
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a starting job. And as the economics improve, CBA is
up next year that you're in to make money and
a little bit of the letdown on both sides at
times in terms of how a game processes and getting
up for it. Certainly you're wanting to go in and
crush Caitlin Clark. It's not the jersey, it's her and
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we've watched that, right. It's the way she's defended, the
way teams play against her, and.
Speaker 3 (13:41):
Like I'm not throwing a pity party.
Speaker 5 (13:42):
I mean, with great power and great press comes people
trying to take it away.
Speaker 3 (13:48):
And that's the way it works.
Speaker 5 (13:50):
As long as it's not cheap and it's safe, ran,
I don't care if you defend, you know, hard, if
she has to work through a hard screen or gets
hit going to the basket, as long as it's clean.
You know, that's part of basketball. Because she gives as
good as she takes. There's no question about that. Certainly
in the chirpiness department.
Speaker 3 (14:07):
She gives as good as she gets. But for her.
Speaker 5 (14:10):
Teammates, it's an opportunity to show your wares and maybe
a little bit of that pressures off on you, so
you can just go and do your job. It's not
making sure you're making her look good, even though I
mean that should just be in the natural flow of things.
It's a different emphasis, right, each person steps up into
a bit of a different role leadership being vocal on
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the court opportunities now you lose some of those easy
lay up opportunities that Clark gives you as a passer.
But it seems like they're feasting at both ends right now.
And for the opponents, yeah, a little bit of a
letdown because you know, the eyeballs and even the attendants.
Speaker 3 (14:50):
Those tickets are sold.
Speaker 5 (14:51):
That's great, everybody's getting their percentage of gate and all
of that, but you got a lot of no shows.
You got a lot of five dollars get ins with
the fee right now. And maybe they take that personally.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
I mean in game shit, I mean they've won three straight, right,
the Fever have and the and these are these are blowouts. Right,
they blew out Minnesota and this is the Commissioner's Cup
and Minnesota was like yeah, okay, I mean Minnesota is
the best record of the WNBA, and that clost game
might have been the best ever.
Speaker 5 (15:20):
They should have shown that. That would have broken all
rating two hours in the locker room, all the little
videos that started coming out, that stuff got crazy.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
I mean, they'd be Dallas pretty easy, you know they
they and and and now tonight's win here over Vegas.
I mean, like you really wonder, like, is are they
less motivated to play in Indiana? Are they less full
of the focus they should because Caitlyn Clark isn't playing well.
Speaker 5 (15:43):
This is where we need the deep dive, right if
we had a massive research staff like roaming around of
because we do this in the NBA. Hey, they look
how good they were without Jason Tatum, right, the Celtics.
Look how good the Phoenix Suns were without Kevin Durant? Like, yeah,
I mean, how much how much do you wait and stuck?
Do you really put on that in terms of are
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they better without it? It's a nice headline and if
you put up that cool fire sound, I have it
crackling and make me the voice of the devil in
all TV and movies. I mean it sounds really nefarious.
And then you just go eh, i'v and flow of
a forty four game season. Once you start seeing teams
a second or third time, you know how to operate
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and you move.
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Fox Sports Radio, The Jason Smith Show with my best
friend Mike Harmon. That's funny you play this song, Alex Tysher.
I specifically didn't say anything going when is he gonna
play Shaboozi next this week? Because now I have a
story about it.
Speaker 3 (17:46):
You have a story about shabou Yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
Yeah, and it's really embo again. Like last night, our
story was because we were watching the Munsie injury, so
we missed Clayton Kershaw's three thousand strikeout, which I said
for the last ten days, watch it because you may
never see it. Against we're watching the injury. Yeah, what
do you getting? Oh man? So you know trivia I
go to every week. We go on Sunday, my dad
(18:09):
and Pam and I. We go right and what happens
is like they ask a question and you know, it's
all different. So we go to bar trivia and we
won last week. Oh, by the way, thank you, Yes,
we're very smart. The big sports question. Let me see
the big sports. I'll give you the big sports question first,
the big sports because there was only one in the
all four rounds. Because I always do any time they
get through the only one, I always yell and I go,
(18:30):
would it kill you to have another sports question? Right?
Any got kind of lest Which two networks have aired
the most Super Bowls of all time? Which two networks
have aired the most Super Bowls? Right? So they let
you go and you for your answer, but then at
a certain point they give you a song clue that
(18:50):
can help you with one of the things.
Speaker 3 (18:52):
Right.
Speaker 1 (18:52):
So one of the one of the songs that they
played one of the I didn't know the song, but
one of the person team was, oh, this is so
and so by the oh that, I said, okay, great,
Well that's one of the answers. And then the second,
which was good because I wasn't sure about the second one.
The one I knew the Oh, I'm going I think
this is what it is. So anyway, I did, what
do you think The answer is a two networks? It
(19:13):
is easy, yes, and I said, CBS absolutely number one.
They absolutely have had the most they've had the NFL
from the beginning all the way through. CBS is number one.
But then second I'm like, I don't know, man, Fox
has had a lot, NBC had a lot, but they
haven't had football in a long.
Speaker 3 (19:32):
Away for a while.
Speaker 5 (19:33):
Yeah, I know, you start thinking about Don Kricky and
could it be Fox?
Speaker 1 (19:37):
I mean, I know ABC's had Super Bowls, but they
but they didn't have that many. So so the song
was by a group I didn't know, and the name
of the song was like like like it was nothing
but cash was the name of the song. We were like, oh,
nothing but cash, NBC.
Speaker 3 (19:57):
It's a little on the nose.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
But so they give you the clue, so lucky guess trivia.
So they give you the clues. You write it down,
get up, get it Okay, great. So that was a
sports question. So we get to we get to later
on and it's one of the two questions we missed
and I was so embarrassed about it because they they
give the question. I'm like, oh, man, I have no idea.
I have no idea. Like the song that the question was,
(20:19):
this name is what but whatever was. It was a
name question, this name is the most popular, or the
name that means son in uh in in in the
most languages, or something like that. It was a word
that meant son. And we're going, okay, I don't I
don't know what it is. And then they play the
(20:39):
song clue and it's that Shahboozy song and I said, oh,
this is shaboozy and and not Zoey. And Pam says me, oh,
they play the song on your show all the time
you talk about you. I go, yes, just because what's
the name of the song? I go, I have no idea.
I have no idea this is. I could sing the words.
I don't know what this is. I don't know what
I'm singing the words, going to him, going now he's
(21:01):
telling me more, Okay, I don't know the name of this.
I can't believe I don't know this. This is like
in the Honeymooners when when when Ralph didn't know swany Lake,
Swanni River. And I'm sitting here going, I don't know
what is it? Ed Norton and I'm going, well, I
don't know what the song composer Norton, can we hear
(21:22):
a little bit about Swani River and I no, no,
I go no, and we got it wrong, and he
goes and he goes okay, And the song cluse, of course,
was Shaboozy, the bar song. I was like, oh great,
And the answer was barr was the name of the song.
So and I forget how they and we thought like, oh,
(21:43):
bar mitzvah, bat mitzvah. We should have gotten it right.
That was a thing. So we didn't get. It's one
of the two questions we didn't get. And I'm sitting
here going yeah. And I'm sitting going yeah, no, chaboozie.
And I know the song and I know the words.
I don't I don't know what the name of this
song is. I can't come up with it in thirty seconds.
I can't.
Speaker 5 (22:02):
I hear that and I start bopping along. I don't
listen to the words. I'm like balancing, like what's it called?
No idea, but I can't. I can't even tell you.
I can't even tell you what it is.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
And I'm like, oh, the bar song, right right right? Okay, yeah,
yeah okay. And and and the thing is is that
it's not like he says the bar song in the
in the in the song he doesn't like. He keeps
saying the bar song. You know, everybody at the bar
getting tipsy is the big one. But but it's the
bar song. And I was like, man, if he said
it in there, he might a guy. I would have got, oh,
(22:35):
it's the bar song. But no, but just didn't get it.
And I was so mad. I'm like, I've heard this
song so many times and Tystir plays it like three
times a week. We play Shaboozi, just a feel good song.
Speaker 5 (22:47):
But the fact that it's called the bar song, he
could have plunked a lot of money in front of me.
Speaker 3 (22:51):
I know, I would have been dusing many other things.
Speaker 1 (22:54):
I was oh. I was like, oh my god, we
got it wrong. I was like, I can't believe we
did that. I can't believe we did that.
Speaker 5 (23:00):
You know his next show you can get in for
one hundred and thirty two dollars. It's Saturday in Belgium.
Shaboozie is in Belgium, Wow, and Germany, then Switzerland. Then
he's in Paris at the Hookodrome, followed by a couple
of shows in Montreal.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
Wow. So he's doing the big European tour. Then he's
coming back, making his way slowly backside end of September.
All right, I'm sure, I'm sure his big song will
be the bar song, and people know play the bar song.
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 5 (23:29):
Yeah, And then he screws him all over by singing
I love this bar.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
So yeah. So I was kind of embarrassed, and Ty
Shirt laid off that song this week for some and
maybe because we were just kind of, you know, reading
each other's brains a bit. But you know, ya gets
in on a Thursday night, we got shaboozy.
Speaker 3 (23:47):
Look at that.
Speaker 5 (23:48):
A little bit of a holiday holiday holiday feel to it.
Wherever you are, however you're listening, Thanks for being part
of the extended family. As we get into the holidays,
I'll raise my O Versus coffee cup in your honor
and we'll do the heavy lift and just sit back
and enjoy and enjoy your friends on the roads with you.
Speaker 1 (24:08):
So tonight, your White Sox are on the verge of
what's gonna be another loss of the Dodgers, five shock King,
Freddie Freeman having a big night, Michael Confordo's got a
home run. The Dodgers just continue to roll, and you know,
last night. We spent a lot of time on Clayton Kershaw. Right, well, look, hey,
last time we ever see anybody get to three thousand strikeouts?
Damn skippy, We're gonna spend some a lot of time
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on Clayton Kershaw get her to three thousand. And I
forgot about this until my dad sent it to me
today because it started to make the rounds on social media,
Like all Clayton Kershaw stuff like he did throughout his career,
is starting to make the rounds, and you know, hitting
that mark that he did, you know, everything became all
about Clayton Kershaw earlier today and he sends me this thing,
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and I'm like, oh my goodness, I forgot about that.
Fifteen years ago. Right, My dad had just moved out
to Los Angeles from Syracu, and I was looking for
something fun to do with him that I know he
would like to do. And I got tickets for what
was called Safe at Home, which Joe Tory, who was
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that then the manager of the Dodgers was that's his uh,
his big charity is Safe Charity, Right, It's it's about
it's dedicated to raising awareness and aimed at ending the
cycle of domestic violence, right, so he you know, he's
safe at home, and he had Sandy Kofax as his guest,
and I was like, oh my god, my dad is
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gonna flip if we get this. So I get tickets
to go see it. And and TJ Simers of the
La Times, you know, you know who for the longest
time was one of the biggest writers here in Los Angeles.
He's the moderator and I'm like, I got it. Sandy
Kofax I the guy. It's it's like seeing a yetti
like Sandy Covin's gonna come out. He's going to talk
about his life and career and everything else. Oh my goodness. Right,
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So he comes out and and and Cofax and Tory
sit down and t J. Simers just jumps right in
and the first thing he has any he cofexes Sandy Kofax,
I heard you tried to throw Willy Mason couldn't do it,
And We're like, whoa, my and my dad. My dad
just goes holy blank like the first question about you
know people, he grew up watching them. You tried to
throw Willy Mays and you couldn't. And Sandy Kofax tells
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this great story about how he was the one guy
you know when you tried to throw inside, you couldn't
throw inside at Willy Mays, you couldn't hit him. You
could try to throw anywhere, you couldn't hit Willy, and
he would always be able to stay in the box.
There's this amazing story that he tells, and and you know,
he finishes telling the story and Sandy Kofax goes, you know,
so you couldn't hit Willy. Now we're in an auditorium
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that's got about a thousand people in it, right, and
it's it's mostly filled, and you know, he tells that story.
He says, but you couldn't hit Willy, And before people
clap and applaud me and my dad were about like
ten rows back. My dad just goes, yeah, you're right,
really loud. That is right, dadd Okay, let Sandy tell
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the story.
Speaker 3 (26:55):
Right.
Speaker 1 (26:56):
So this is the point this gets to because the
big picture and stuff that the round today is at
this event, this picture of Sandy Kofax showing Clayton Kershaw
how he threw his curveball right, and I'm like, oh
my god, I forgot I forgot about that that Kershaw
showed up midway through. And this is at the point
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like when Clayton kersher had been in the league for
a year or two and he was a really good pitcher, right,
he was really good, but he wasn't Clayton Kershaw yet.
Like he hadn't had a big he hadn't had a
twenty win year yet. He had a couple of years
where his war was really good. He had a low
e ra but you could tell, okay, hey, Clayton Kershaw
could be special, right, but you know, he's still young,
and he got to see which way it goes. And
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they bring Clayton Kershaw out and I'm like, oh my goodness,
and bring Clayton Kershaw and he walks up to Kofax
and he gets on his knees right away and does it.
We're not worthy, right, he doesn't. We're not worthy for Kofax.
I'm like, oh my goodness, this is amazing. And then
they're saying, you know, and Kershaw you know, And now
you think about Kershaw's curveball and a slider and go, hey, Sandy,
let me show you something about how to hold you know,
how to hold the ball. But like that was such
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a big moment because he's showing them a right, this
is what I do. This is what I do, and
I go, oh man, twelve year old me would have
liked to see this again. I had to become a
pitcher instead of playing trying to play shortstop and third
base man. Sandy Kofax showed me how to throw his
curveball what he would do, and Kersher are doing the
same thing, and it was a fun thing. Like they're
just on stage going this is how I would hold it,
and Sandy's like, I put my finger here, my finger here,
and I kind of get the torque this way, and
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Kursha's okay, well, I hold it like this and I
just kind of I have my arm kind of spin
a little bit and it just watch you like, oh
my goodnes, these are this is amazing. And like you
could tell at that time, here's one legend, Dodger legend
who's trying to bring, you know, bridge the gap to
this next pitching legend that the Dodgers have. And you know, look,
Fernando Valenzuela was amazingly good. He was terrific. You know,
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Kershaw comes up the same kind of hype, the same
sort of talent level that he had and so okay, well,
now here's Sandy with with Clayton Kershaw, who's the next
big guy after Fernando. And you know, Sandy's you know,
almost in his eighties at this point, and he's you know,
still up here telling stories and just watching them back
and forth talking about how they're holding different pitches like
it was it was in raptures. I'm going, this is amazing,
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like this ping ponging back and forth between Kershaw and
Kofax and Kershaw I look over at my dad and
my dad is just standing. He's staring at Kofax the
whole time like he like even didn't even see it,
Like lay Curse is not even on the stage. It's
just like, oh, here's Sandy. This is how I hold
my curveball. I mean, it was really an amazing night
and you and you see the video of it and
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that came out today and pictures and you see how
young Kershaw is and you think about him now with
his dad bought and you know, nearing the end, we
talked about it last night that this is probably gonna
wind up being the beginning of Kershaw's farewell tour, that
this year's probably gonna be it because I don't know
what kind of place the Dodgers are going to have
for him next year when all their pitchers do come back,
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Like this is going to wind up being the ride
for Kershaw. And you just think back and go, man,
those fifteen years that they went by in a blink
from Kershaw where he was there, because I still remember
that moment clear day to where we are right now.
Speaker 5 (30:01):
Yeah, I remember that event and what a big deal
it was, right because Kofax was a yetti whatever. You
would show up at Varo Beach for a day or two,
it was all right if folks stood in line long
enough and we're polite enough that you might get close
enough to just breathe the same air, let alone, maybe
get a picture or an autograph, and remember a lot
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of that.
Speaker 3 (30:22):
I mean, this is right.
Speaker 5 (30:23):
The iPhone came out at the end of seven or
something like that, right eight, so you still end you
got a little bit of an older crowd, So it's
not like there's a lot of video and audio that
started circulating out of this. It became almost like Kofax
himself that this really happened. For those people that were there,
it was magical and Simer's obviously writing it up and
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his colleagues at the LA Times and it got some run.
Speaker 3 (30:47):
But yeah, it's those moments, right.
Speaker 5 (30:50):
My daughter celebrated her seventeenth birthday the other day. Man,
I remember her, and I watch our colleagues that have
babies running around. I'm like, boy, that's a long time
time ago, but here we are just that fast. And
now Clayton Kershaw, he's got all his kids that were
watching the game last night running into the locker room,
all those videos you saw, and when he wasn't answering
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questions about Michael Taylor stealing third base and sliding and
all that stuff, he was talking about where he's at
in his baseball mortality, of how special it's been to
be there, and how they had his back. A lot
of what we talked about that should have been part
and encapsulated in it, right, because when you had that
twenty ten conversation, he was just starting to become that guy.
Speaker 3 (31:34):
Right.
Speaker 5 (31:35):
I heard Ned Coletti talking about it a little bit earlier.
He was on a five point seventy. I was in
the car and he was saying, look, we had to
send him down because he was striking guys out, but
he was wild. Like you remember Randy Johnson when he
came up, it was a strikeout or a walk, Yeah,
walking six guys per nine. Kershaw not quite as bad,
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but enough to where it was a problem. So go
back and fix that and lo and behold, do you
then have this run of one of the most amazing
things we've seen. Boy, I wish they would release that.
I'd pay for that to see every conversation.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
It really was fun. Man. I'll tell you uh time
now to find out what's trending in the wide world
of sports. Martin Weiss has all the details of the
Mets three to win over the Brewers m dub Go ahead,
what do you got?
Speaker 7 (32:22):
Did you know that? Today?
Speaker 8 (32:24):
Seriously, today is the first time a Mets starter recorded
out in the seventh inning since June seventeenth.
Speaker 1 (32:33):
That just sounds absolutely right. Yeah, we've been terrible.
Speaker 7 (32:36):
Yes, and over the last calendar month.
Speaker 8 (32:38):
Peterson the starting picture today is the only Mets picture
to start.
Speaker 7 (32:42):
I'm pitching to the seventh. He's done it four times.
Speaker 1 (32:45):
He's our best picture. I mean, he's our best picture.
I mean it sounds like he's our Kofax, He's our Kershaw.
He's our best picture.
Speaker 8 (32:52):
I was going to say, he sounds like the smartest
kid in the summer school right now, June seventeenth, But
I was reading that.
Speaker 7 (33:00):
I wasn't going to bring it up.
Speaker 8 (33:01):
But since you know, you teed me up so perfectly there,
I felt, you know, congratulations three to two over the
Brewers today.
Speaker 1 (33:06):
Yeah, well, thank you, buddy, appreciate it.
Speaker 7 (33:08):
You're welcome.
Speaker 3 (33:09):
All right, go look up at my team at the
last time.
Speaker 8 (33:12):
Yeah, I was to say, turning, turning to Live Baseball,
Mike Harmer, closed your eyes. Dodgers five nothing over the
White Sox right now in the bottom of the sixth inning.
They surely should have got that one yesterday against Kershaw.
That would have been there. No, that would have been it.
That's all.
Speaker 5 (33:28):
But for that fifth pitch that was called the ball
against will Smith.
Speaker 7 (33:33):
You know, and I went back and watched it. You
had a point.
Speaker 8 (33:36):
No argument at all from the White Sox. They're like,
let's hear, let's get out of here, because.
Speaker 1 (33:40):
They're saying, what whatever, we're really going to get that
call on Culton Kershaw's three thousand strikeout night. Let's just
fight battles.
Speaker 8 (33:46):
We can win, right, That's fair the middle of the
sixth inning, the Mariners having one nothing lead over the Royals.
Top of the ninth enning, the Giants lead the Diamondbacks
six to one. Earlier today in Major League Baseball, we
saw the Angels beat the Braves five to one. One
Zach Netto finished a triple shy of the cycle. The
Blue Jays in first place. They haven't been in first
place in the AL, least this late in the season
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since twenty sixteen, beat the Yankees eight to five. Clark
Switt left in the third inning with right fore arm
tightness and the bone brews that caused all of us
here at Foxforts Radio to miss the actual live shot
of Kershaw's three thousand strikeout. The brone brews suffered by
Max Muntsy will have him out for at least six weeks.
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Guardian starting pitcher Louis Hartiz has been placed on paid
leave over reported MLB investigation into gambling. The betting integrity
firm flagged two individual pitches from our ties on June
fifteenth and June twenty seventh. James would announce that he'll
be participating the home run Derby and had a mini
home run derby himself with his twenty third against the
Tigers today and was five for five as the Nationals
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beat the Tigers eleven to seven.
Speaker 7 (34:54):
In the NBA, the Lakers have.
Speaker 8 (34:55):
Agreed to a one year deal to bring back big
man Jackson Hayes. The Dallas Mavericks are final an agreement
to have Frank Vogel join the team as lead assistant
coach behind Jason Kidd. Speaking of those Mavericks, their former
assistant Jared Dudley finalizing a deal to become the top
assistant coach for the Denver Nuggets under former interim now
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full time guy David Adamman.
Speaker 7 (35:17):
And the Steelers.
Speaker 8 (35:18):
Announced they've signed Omar Khan the GM to a three
year contract.
Speaker 7 (35:22):
He'll be there to at least twenty twenty eight.
Speaker 1 (35:24):
Back to you guys, so clearly, TJ, there will be
no wrath of Kahn looking for a new contract. DJ
card I had to get that. So coming up next
with the best of NBA free agency in the trade
season still to come. Uh, what moves have been the
worst so far in free agency? Yeah, that's next right here,
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Jason and Mike Fox.
Speaker 2 (35:49):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
pm Pacific.
Speaker 1 (35:57):
Fox Sports Radio The Jason Smith Show with my best
friend Mike Harmon, who Alex Tyshert in a very hey,
sexy Friday mood, Mucco Hobo. So, the first week of
NBA Free agency in the books, we've seen all the
quote big moves so far again, you know, Miles Turner
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of the biggest name to change teams. Yes, it's it's
it was busy, but it wasn't unbelievable.
Speaker 3 (36:25):
It's still so billion dollars it is.
Speaker 1 (36:28):
It is a lot of money, but.
Speaker 5 (36:29):
Greater than the gross domestic product of many many nations.
Speaker 1 (36:32):
It's money that was given out and most everybody stayed
with their team. So while I'm still waiting to find
waiting for the move, and this is probably gonna wind
up being something that's a result of free agency, plus
what trades happened after. Look, if you want to say
the team that I like the least what they did
in free agency, that's easy because they they went to
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a philosophy that no one is going to be able
to use and say it's going to be successful. The
Clippers spent a lot of money to keep James harden
way more than James harden Is worth. You know, he's
thirty percent of their salary cap at forty one million year.
We're gonna bring it back for two years. The guy's
thirty six. Brook Lopez is thirty seven, right, they bring
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him in thirty sevens in a row, and Nicholas Patoum
is thirty six. These are their big free agent signings.
No one wins a championship or even gets far in
the playoffs when you're built around guys in their mid thirties. Man,
I mean, I don't. I mean, I'm not reinventing the
wheel here. I'm not building a better mouse trap. I'm
just saying teams don't sign players who are in their
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mid to late thirties and think this is going to
get us where we need to go, especially since you're
a team that, Oh, by the way, it's not like
you're relying on a big start. You were lying on
Kawhi Leonard, who also getting to be mid thirties. Like,
I don't get the Clippers philosophy. They have seen what
they've done over the past few years, and they can't
get more than Hey, nice forty five win team in
the regular season out in the first round of the playoffs,
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and the team is just getting older. And you see
it with James Harden more than anything. Yes, he still plays,
really had a much better regular season than I thought.
I give him that much better regular season, But in
the playoffs, the first round, he's stunk for half the round, right,
he had three bad games, two good games, and two
mad games. But the one they needed most in Game seven,
he scores seven points. You don't win by building around players.
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And this is not the NBA of the mid eighties,
where hey, these role players are showing up at thirty
five and winning three championships by the time they're thirty nine. Like,
it doesn't work that way. Nobody wins bad. Look look
at the Lakers. They've been holding onto Lebron Carries, Lebron Carries,
Lebron Carries, been there seven years, man, and every year
it just keeps getting a little bit worse in the
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playoffs for Lebron James. But here are the Clippers, and
you're gonna go give more money to James Harden and
you're gonna bring in Lopez in but two, you don't win.
Keep saying, Hey, our big core are guys who are
thirty five years old, because you don't have money to
go out and get the younger players who are gonna
come in and be big difference makes You are relying
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on these guys to play the majority of minutes. That
is not gonna win. That's why what I don't like
the most Clippers.
Speaker 3 (39:17):
You're gonna take them.
Speaker 5 (39:18):
I'll stay in the West and I'll look over at
the Minnesota Timberwolves. Fortunately, our boss Scott Shapiro is traveling,
so he's not gonna hear this. Nas Reed and Julius
Randall are there, big big moves to resign them, and
the dollar amounts I had to do double takes. And
I love naz Reid. I think he's a good player.
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Is he that good man? You're spending it on somebody,
but you're running back with the squad that you know
we've watched it, right, is butting your head against the
wall saying I'm gonna.
Speaker 3 (39:51):
Get through eventually.
Speaker 5 (39:53):
I don't see it in Julius Randall. I mean, you
have plenty of history with him, so that that just
doesn't work. So yeah, I understand your Clippers vexation, except
they did get Brook Lopez, who evidently was the glnchpin
for so many teams championships hopes.
Speaker 1 (40:13):
I mean really, I mean we're not.
Speaker 3 (40:15):
Come on, how many of those did you hear?
Speaker 1 (40:16):
We should have had him? I mean, look, I would say,
what do I know about basketball? I know not to
build around guys in their mid thirties. I know not
to build around guys I'm in the mid thirties.
Speaker 5 (40:29):
Does Sacramento count by signing Dennis Shrewder.
Speaker 1 (40:35):
Exit, up out of Fresca, exit, swollen Doome coming up next?
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