December 19, 2025 • 40 mins
Jason Smith and Mike Harmon are breaking down an NFL game for the ages. Plus, the most insane 2-point conversion of all time!!!
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(01:06):
Lebron misses a three with about forty seconds left to go.
The Jazz take it down the other way for a bucket.
They have the ball now with a four point lead
and twenty five seconds left to go. Looks like the
Jazz are going to beat the Lakers here or actually, sorry,
we're going to the end of the third quarter. It
looks like the Jazz are going to get to the
end of the third quarter with a four point lead
over LA. Meanwhile, the drama in Seattle. It is a
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thirty thirty game right now with five and a half
to go in the fourth quarter. This game doesn't feel
like it should be close at all. It feels wow.
Both teams are playing great. No, the Rams have been
just beating the Seahawks up and down the field, but
the Seahawks have put a couple of big plays together.
And it's thirty to thirty. It's thirty to thirty because
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of one of the most bizarre reviews you will ever see,
and it kind of reminded me a little bit of
the UIC City Miracle. So the Seahawks get a touchdown
to pull them within thirty twenty eight. Right Barner is
wide open for some reason on the far side of
the field. Darnald, rolling to his weak side, turns throws.
He's wide open. Touchdown, So thirty to twenty eight and
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the Seahawks are going for two. Now. They try a
quick hit play where Darnald takes the snap and turns
and throws really quickly to Zach Charbonay, who is lined
up wide. One of the Rams defensive linemen gets his
arm in the way deflex the ball. It hits the ground,
bounces in the end zone incomplete pass. Zach Charbonay just
kind of finishing the play, walks into the end zone
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and picks up the football. But play is over. No
two point conversion, and the Rams now still have a
two point lead with half the fourth quarter left to go.
Except upon further review. And they looked at this from
a thousand different angles, and there's one angle that made
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it look like it really was a backwards pass and
the ball was live. There was one angle made to
look like nope, this is right down the line, and
this is gonna wind up staying and not being overturned. Instead,
it gets overturned. It is viewed to be a backwards pass.
So it's a fumble, and because Zach Charbonnat is the
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only guy somewhat paying attention, he recovers it in the
end zone. It's a two point conversion. It's now a
tie game. Here's how it sounded on Amazon. So Bran
Allen is the man of the moment, right now it
tells us after reviewing the play, the quarterback through a
backward pass which the recovered in the end zone by
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the offense, and he's a trust no conversion. I don't
know that you'll ever see something like that again. And
it really reminded me of the Music City Miracle that
you saw the play from so many different angles, and well,
we can't really go back and say it wasn't because
it looked like white Check's pass was was, you know,
right down the line. This at least from the one angle,
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looked like Darnold did throw it behind him. Looked like
he threw it with his arm at about the nine
yard line, and the ball was deflected somewhere around the
nine and a half yard line, close to the ten
and this is where it bounced out. And look, the
Rams tried to curl, tried to pick it off, but
he did. It hit the ground and they're all thinking, okay,
incomplete pass, and here's Zach Charbonay recovering the ball in
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the end zone and it's a two point conversion. Oh,
by the way, nothing at stake except the number one
seed overall in the NFC with this game, so not
a lot out there don't doctor worry about a lot
other than Hey, if the Rams win, boy, they're gonna
be the number one seed because they have the big
tie breaker with the Seals. If the Seas win, hey,
they control their own fate last two games to having
games at Lumen Field all the way through. So nothing
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at stake on that review at all.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
You know, it's a perfect time of year for a
call like this because people have a lot of tinfoil
all over the places and they do their decorations for
you know, little projects in the holiday holiday, high holiday,
whatever you celebrate, however you celebrate, I have a blast
one and take care of your people. But it's the
tin foil hat conspiracies is already being called the pukin
Nakua conversion.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
Oh, I can't wait here, Nikola. After the game, Pooka,
do you think they really just screwed you on a
couple of those plays there because you couldn't keep your
mouth out on that live stream. Oh, by the way,
I have other questions about the live stream as well,
not even going with the officials, but let's deal with
this one first.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
Yeah, So the backwards pass and you see Charbonay, he
just literally just goes to pick up the football. Right,
it's like the end of the longest yard, no, no,
no crew, and he picks it up and I got
a football. And that's what sharbon Ay does here because
there's a clear recovery, right, we always get to that
of all right, the play might have been called wrong,
but was there a clear recovery? Yep, there he is
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picking up and spinning the football. Thirty thirty game. And
I'll tell you, Bran Allen, he was on TV. You
saw him make that call. Everybody cheered. He Hey, he
found my way directly. Yeah, mention your name, Joe, It's
Brad Allen. No, let's I mean it's Brad Allen, like
he'll say the name here. It was send your cards
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in the letter to the league office regarding Brad Allen.
And it was pretty clear, I mean, just where Charbonay
was lined up that the intent was to set up
the screen and a quick bulldozer with the offensive line
ahead of him. And so it's even if it's just
slight waffer thin, it was enough to get over stat
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that they put up on the broadcast.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
You'll appreciate this. One Seahawks all time zero and one
seventy two when trailing by fifteen or more in the
fourth quarter, there's one of those things like we do
with Steve.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
It's a random stat yeah, depending on where you want
to hit the start button.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
But there it is, you know. And that's the thing
is that NFL officials have to this play now. We're
seeing this now. It's happened a couple of times this year.
I was always a big proponent of you know, when
a quarterback throws the ball and it gets knocked out
during a sack and you blow the play dead. You
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can't blow the play dead. You have to let it
go because you can't you don't know if his arm
was going forward or if the ball was knocked out,
but they blow the play dead and you can't go
back and look at it. Right. So I for the
longest time, it took a long time to you know what,
you just got to let that go, Let the play go.
You can go back and look at it and you
don't need to blow the play dead. And it took
a while for that to become sort of the norm.
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With this bright here, if I think all teams have
to understand, and this is where every team has to
when a pass is thrown behind the line of scrimmage
or at the line of scrimmage. You throw an out
to a wide receiver or an out to a running back,
and it's an incomplete pass. You have to play every
pass like it is a fumble. You can't stop and think, okay,
incomplete because you don't know how it's gonna look. You
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don't know where the ball is gonna be thrown. You
don't know if you want to if you want to
challenge it, then it looks like, oh, it was a
backwards pass. Every team needs to play these get needs
to play these downs like the ball is live and
officials can't blow the whistle until after the play is over,
which means the ball is skiders out of bounds or
someone falls on it and that's the end of the play.
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You have to let it go all the way because
you see a play like this where man, I mean,
all of a sudden, because it's weird that nobody it
wasn't really heads up play against. You could say Charpaday
was kind of heads up because he kind of does
it very hey, just in case I'm gonna pick up
the football. He doesn't run and dive on it like ball, No,
so you don't want to have that be the case.
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So that that's where I think teams have to Teams
have to understand that all right, when this happens in
the future, you treat that play like it's all the
way till the end, right, kind of like in baseball
when they first started doing the challenges and if there
was a close play at first base, uh, and someone
was called out and but you it might be caught
if the first baseman win and the runner started going
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back to the dugout and he tagged him out, you know,
uh because he cutting across the diamond. That's an so
you can you can appeal if you want to, but
he didn't. So you had to tell all your players, hey,
when this happens, don't come back in, stay on the field,
go back to first base. We might challenge that. Then
if we don't challenge, you come off. So it's just
seeing it all the way through to the end. But
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that's really where where the teams need to be because
every single play that's such a big player, that's a
play we're talking about potentially that could flip home field
in the NFC playoffs. And it was okay, yeah, the
Rams thought the play was over, that Seahawks thought the
play was over, the officials thought the play was over,
and it's just oh, by the way, I'm picking it up. Hey,
we go back and look at it. Oh, it wasn't
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backwards pass, and now the game is tied. Yeah, I
mean to take it into your coaching experience. I mean,
I'm sure in the soccer realm you taught your kids.
The balls goes out of bounds and it's a fifty
to fifty, you go and grab the ball, make the
ar actually make a call as opposed to looking at
each other, and then eventually whoever grabs the ball usually
gets to throw in directly thereafter. So go and make
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your way to have that op tunity. So coming down
to it, here a huge play as we battle for
the NFC West. Right now, the Rams have a first
down deep in Seahawks territory and it may be more
a thirty to thirty game. Again, Okata may get a
big flag for leading with his helmet for unnecessary roughness.
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It's a big play for the Rams downfield. They're looking
at it right now, Matthew Stafford looking in a night
where you don't really have your star wide receiver DeVante Adams.
You gotta go other places. Ferguson with a big catch there.
It's been a big night for Nakua. But Ferguson the
guy coming down with it, he is wide open down
the field. They are deep in Seattle territory right now,
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two and a half to go, and again the game
is tied at thirty apiece. But depending how this game ends,
that play is gonna wind up being a really big deal.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
Yeah, Drake Thomas trying to cover Ferguson and had no chance.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
Love the hate the Drake. I love the Drake. Hate
the drake. Drake failed in.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
His opportunity here to make a big play and then
got no help in the secondary.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
Really just an odd review. I mean just there was
such an odd review of seeing it so many times and.
Speaker 3 (11:07):
Thin depending on your angle, right as you said, just
flip the camera to the other side of the field,
it's like, well, kind of looks like it's straight down
the line.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
Yeah, yeah, I mean really, the overhead angle was the
one that made it look like, Okay, that's a backwards pass. Okay,
I can see it right there, But then you look
at the other ones like, oh, that looks like that
was straight, but that was the best angle and clearly
that was the best to see where that where that
bowl was, So I get why they reversed it. It's
just this is not the spirit of what they want
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that play to be in the NFL. So there's got
to be a little bit more attention to detailed look
and it's a big playoff. Teams do it all the time.
They like to do trick plays throwing it back, so
it's never going to be a case where, okay, if
a quarterback throws the football, it's always going to be
considered a forward pass.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
Right.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
You know, you can't get to there, but you need
to be able to play it all the way through
the plate to the whistle. Right, play you were a whistle,
but we did have the way, you know, we had
to go all the way and everybody still thought it
was over. So that's not really what the NFL wants.
So I got a feeling this is going to be
on teams and the league to say, listen, this is
where it is. Don't blow the whistle until the play
absolutely ends, and teams are gonna tell their guys, hey,
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go after that football like it's live. Even if you
know it's not.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
Yeah, that was a fairly short review too, right, we
didn't get all the lasers and protractors out. It's like, ah,
I run down the line, let's see the arm angle
and everything else. But it's the easiest two points Charbonnay
will ever score for your fantasy team.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
Yeah. Well, I think what happened was was bred Allen
got in the headset and said, how long do you
have to pretend to do stuff here before I could
say blank Pooka and give the two point conversion to
the Seahawks. How long do you have to have It's good?
Long enough, long enough? Okay, yeah, backwards past blank you Pooka. Hey,
two point Seattle.
Speaker 3 (12:47):
As you say that, Pooka was just getting into it
with some Seattle defenders and they had to be separated.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
So we're coming down to the two minute warning. The
Rams are in field goal range with the football time
out Seattle. They want to save some time left because
the Rams are facing a third down if they get
the ball back if they stop the Rams here on
third and eight. So we have high drama coming up next.
Are we talking about a huge Rams victory where they're
gonna run their way to home field advantage or the
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Speaker 1 (14:30):
Boy. We really got something going on here now on
Thursday Night Football, Yeah, singing at Christmas song Rams and
the Seahawks. There's a minute left to go. The Rams
have the football at midfield. They have just made two
incredible catches in a row, one by Poka Nakua to
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keep what could be a game winning drive alive. On
a big second down and long, Matthew Stafford just chucks
it up to Pukah who's got one on one coverage.
And maybe Puka should do more live streams because the
bad publicity that he's gotten the last couple of days,
insulting the refs, having to apologize for a dance. He
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is at nine for one sixty eight and a touchdown tonight,
and he just made a great leaping grab that gave
them a first down for twenty five yards. Again, third
straight game for Nakua that he has over one hundred
and fifty yards receiving. This is the kind of year
he is having right now. I mean this is one
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sixty seven, one eighty one against Detroit last week. Now
one sixty eight again. Uh, this is an incredible run
by him. But you just saw a great catch as well.
Mumphrey makes a big catch at midfield. The ball gets
tipped at the line of scrimmage and it's one of
those living right plays where a manu the Rams you
are living right, bounces into his hands, so they have
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the ball at midfield fifty seconds left to go. I
want to get as close as possible, because you do
always want to get as close as possible. But the
Rams just missed a go ahead field goal a few
moments ago that could have given him a thirty three
to thirty lead. So if you're the Rams, you're not
feeling so great about kicking this field goal here that
could win the game. But another ten or fifteen yards
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you certainly are trying a game winner. The Seahawks out
of timeouts now, so if the Rams are on the
ten fifteen yards, they'll be able to at the very
least take it all the way down to the end
and attempt a game winning field goal.
Speaker 3 (16:28):
He got some big wins there in Seattle mevs. Hair's
of Mevas with the field goal attempt from forty eight
that was sandwiched in between two three and outs. Great
work by the Rams defense to give him a shot.
But both of those catches just absolutely absurd. The first
was great placement of the ball by Stafford and Nikua
just doing what he's done to defense his time and
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again twisting, turning, coming up with the ball the other
as a tip drill. The defender couldn't have played that
any better. Just strong hands to control it, come down
with that catch.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
It really is. This is two heavyweights slugging it out right.
You hear all the thing, but the fact that the
Seahawks are playing terribly and Sam Donald has been absolutely
awful tonight. He has been terrible. He has not seen
the field well, He has held out of the football
too long. He is getting passes batted down the line
of scrimmage regularly. And it's still thirty to thirty, and
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somehow the Seahawks have found a way to keep this
game tied with a minute left to go in regulation.
Speaker 3 (17:26):
But when he got baited by the defensive lineman on
the inner his second interception, that's the play that's gonna
stand out for me because as he's running off the field.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
A man, I'm tired. I'm tired.
Speaker 3 (17:37):
It's like I'm done, and it's not Sam Donald the defender.
It was just kind of funny just watching him take
after engaging in the block, take three steps back and
tutta there it is. It would have been JSN in
one on one coverage, The still would have been a
really tight window even if he wasn't standing there ready
to put his big mits on it. But yeah, they
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in spite of Darnold's futility and many many circumstances, we
got ourselves to tie game inside a minute.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
Big third and ten for the Rams right now, drop
past the sideline could have been a gain of seven.
Need a little bit here, right You're not trying to
field goal from here, and you're also not going for
it on fourth down. So this is a big third
and ten for the Rams. I have to think if
they get closed, boy, if they get that, that's some
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kind of call. That's a Sean McVay call right there.
But if you are the Rams, hey, they've been going
for it on fourth down. They've done it a couple
of times tonight. I think if they get close here
on third and ten, they'll go for it instead. Stafford
looking for Nakua across the middle of the field, the
pass falls incomplete. It is fourth and ten from midfield
for the Rams. So the Seahawks will get the football
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back one more time unless they kick to Shaheeda again,
which and maybe maybe then the Rams get the ball
back one more time, shieta be back. I'm sure this
is gonna be one of those kicks that goes through
the end zone because again the Rams are punting from midfield.
But Sam Darnold and company has forty nine seconds. They
just have to get in field goal range. No timeouts.
But it's not a lot. You're talking about forty five yards.
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You have plenty of time to get up spike it.
You have one of the best bounty receivers in the game. Look,
the two best wide receivers in the game are playing
right now and put in a coup in Jackson Smith
the Jigba. So forty two seconds left, these Seahawks can
defy reality by somehow winning this game. I really it
makes it. This is it. If no one saw this game,
if no one saw this game, they would say, wow,
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this but back and forth, what a great slug fest.
Now the Rams have been absolutely pummeling the Seahawks the
entire game, and somehow it's tied. Donald stinks and he
can still be the hero.
Speaker 3 (19:48):
We've been treated to eight hundred and fifty six yards
of total offense, a punt return for a touchdown, the
most curious two point conversion in recent memory, also known
as the Nakua conversion, and all just sorts of chaos
left and right, and now we have an opportunity. Jason
Myers hit a fifty six yard or last week, Yeah,
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you don't need money.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
Now you have a wind. Good be an issue.
Speaker 3 (20:12):
We watched that with the mevs kick that just started
sailing sailing, so I was like, oh, you interesting, No
he didn't.
Speaker 1 (20:18):
It did missed. So we'll see adventures and kicking perhaps
coming out a quick screen pass to Charbonnay gains about
twelve yards the spike. Twenty nine seconds left to go,
and the Seahawks have the football their own thirty one
yard line, so still need some work to do, but
still thirty seconds, eleven yards, eleven yards every ten second.
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They'll get to a point where you can kick, because remember, yeah,
fifty six sixty yards, that's his range marks one of
the best kickers in the NFL. He had twelve field
goals last week, so he just you know, needs one more,
one more long one. How seconds things just got much
more difficult for the Seahawks because Sam Darnold fails to
get rid of the football ford in the backfield and
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looked like a scary play. Uh. Sam Darnold got dragged down,
his feet slipped from under him. He is sacked, and
it looks like this game is going to overtime because
the Seahawks aren't going to run another play. Donald was sacked,
So now it's a third and eighteen. We are going
to overtime. Donald looks like he's all right walking off
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the field, So the Seahawks didn't want to risk anything.
So now we get extra football because of that big
sack by Ford where the Seahawks seemed like they were
maybe two plays away from kicking a game winning field
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this game?
Speaker 5 (21:43):
Uh, I do fantasy football teams?
Speaker 1 (21:46):
Yeah, who do you have tonight?
Speaker 5 (21:48):
I'm like I have Matthew Stafford.
Speaker 1 (21:49):
Okay, that's good.
Speaker 5 (21:51):
And Jason Myers too.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
Wise he stupid because because he got two points.
Speaker 5 (21:59):
Zero but two points.
Speaker 6 (22:02):
And I'm playing in one in one league in playoffs, right,
playoffs that matter, not the playoffs and the other one
that I'm losing, but to that matter, I have, I
have Matthew Staffer.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
Anymore, how to playoffs? Well, because you know you can
in the playoffs.
Speaker 5 (22:15):
No, because you could be in the playoffs, but in
the loser's bracket.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
So but you're not in the playoffs. That's not the playoffs.
Speaker 5 (22:21):
Literally says playoffs.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
That's the loser's bracket.
Speaker 5 (22:24):
Thank you. So that that's not what I'm talking about.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
I realize as a Clipper fan you're not as familiar
with the actual playoffs and how they work. So I
just wanted to tell you that right now. That's how
its cold blooded. I thought it was the holiday holidays, holidays.
Speaker 6 (22:39):
The Clippers, Like, do you go to crap on the
Jets or something.
Speaker 5 (22:42):
I'm like, so confused.
Speaker 1 (22:43):
You go to Clippers losers bracket playoff games? Can you
kick him? I will? I got you.
Speaker 5 (22:50):
Can you kick him?
Speaker 1 (22:51):
Really? Just that's that's just so.
Speaker 5 (22:55):
I hope you fall on your way to the car
and rip your pants.
Speaker 1 (22:57):
Wow, he's a brand new pants.
Speaker 5 (23:01):
I hope they rip so bad. And I hope you
get a nice.
Speaker 1 (23:04):
My wife would be very upset if I ripped these pets.
It sucks for you, that's how you bought them.
Speaker 5 (23:08):
It sucks for you.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
It's just the style. They're ripped right on the seam
on the cross. Yeah, that's the style. Now she comes
to run it up, doing the full John Cena. You
can't see me after you fall and rip your pants.
The fantasy app just wants you to continue to use it,
so they make up the Hey, you're in the loser's bracket.
Speaker 5 (23:27):
Thank you, thank you.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
Mike, sit this one out. You don't wear pants, so
the matter.
Speaker 5 (23:32):
So the playoffs that matter. I have Matthew Stafford.
Speaker 1 (23:35):
All right, and Jason.
Speaker 6 (23:37):
Myers, and I'm playing against Pokinakua and the other one.
Speaker 1 (23:41):
Oh good, but that's in the loser's bracket. No no, no,
no, no no no.
Speaker 5 (23:44):
I have two of that. I have good ones and
then one loser's bracket.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
Well I think that one you're playing against Puka. You'll
be in the loser's bracket next week. Don't say that
in the third place. Can you see something nice to me?
You're a wonderful person, one of the greatest people I know.
Speaker 5 (23:56):
Well, I don't believe that.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
Why would I sweam? Oh, I look you who you are?
And I got to tell your reality about the Clippers.
I know, I know, I really thought there was the
way he gestured. Did you not think there was a
one liners way?
Speaker 5 (24:10):
I was waiting for it. They're aded two overtime in Seattle.
You guys have broken it down.
Speaker 6 (24:15):
But Matthew Stafford has thrown for three hundred and eighty
seven yards and two touchdowns and Sam Darnold has thrown
for two hundred and twenty one yards, one touchdown and
two interceptions.
Speaker 5 (24:24):
But they're headed to overtime. What a night, because this
game got exciting. NBA games got exciting.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
The Nicks, We're excited, Nicks, We're exciting.
Speaker 6 (24:33):
The Warriors and the Suns right now are tied at
ninety six with thirty five seconds to go in Phoenix.
Jimmy Butler Jimmy the Man thirty one points, Dylan Brooks
twenty four points for the Suns. The Lakers right now
are up on the Jazz one thirty one to one
twenty with about four minutes to go. Halfway through the
third quarter, the Trailblazers lead the King seventy two to
seventy one, but the Nuggets beat the Magic are ready
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one twenty six to twenty six to one fifteen, while
the Pistons and the Mavericks went over time and Dallas
won that one, went sixteen to one, fourteen Cooper flag
with the double double twenty three points and ten rebounds.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
The Pelicans were down well quick, mons, I want, I
want to give you an update on the Eastern Conference standings.
Who's now just a game out of first? Okay? Never mind? Good,
that's okay? Are you serious with the Pistons loss? You know,
let people know, Hey, gotcha? How close are the Knicks
to taking over?
Speaker 5 (25:22):
And how close are they in the Eastern Close?
Speaker 1 (25:25):
Are they there? There? They're a game out, one.
Speaker 6 (25:27):
Game out because they won today on a Jalen Brunson
go ahead three with four and a half seconds seal.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
Yeah, make sure you'd make people know we eliminated the
Pacers from play.
Speaker 5 (25:37):
No, you did not, the little guy, Yeah, the little guy.
Speaker 6 (25:40):
The Pelicans were down twenty five points and they came
back to beat the Rockets one thirty three to one
twenty eight in overtime. In the NHL, there are two
games still going on. Stars over the Sharks three to
one halfway through the second period. Late in the third period,
the Flames are up on the crack end three to two.
Speaker 1 (25:56):
Back to you, thanks a bunch Monzi, I'm rooting for
you all the thanks, all the way through in the
playoffs that matter.
Speaker 5 (26:02):
I appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (26:03):
Don't wait. My message he was, don't waste any karma
or anything in the universe on a fifth place game.
Speaker 5 (26:11):
I don't worry about not. I'm not worried about the
ones that matter.
Speaker 1 (26:14):
Okay, good, good. Stupid Taking playoff advice from Jason is
a no. No. Okay, fantasy playoffs. I know a lot
NFL playoffs. No, I don't nothing about the I'm not
saying about that nothing. Thanks a bunch, Monseny. So what
could have been a great start to overtime for the
Rams comes back because of a flag. Hey Pooka, Hey Pooka,
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how do you feel about those refs? Rivers returns the
kickoff back to midfield. However, a hold on the return
takes it back to the twenty yard line. Now, the
Rams did just get a first down, but instead of
starting at the fifty yard line, they were starting at
their own twenty. I really can't wait to hear Pooka akup.
I never thought like this time last week. What are
(26:56):
you really gonna want to hear after Monday night football?
Poka Nakua's postgame pres con.
Speaker 3 (27:00):
And McVeigh addressing how it all came to be right
because they wanted to go into the RAMS facility and
he explicitly said, no, we don't need this here, we
don't want this here. I don't know if he knew
the principles involved right the individuals, because they've got some
history with them, which then became part of that stream
once he went into the van in the parking lot. So, yeah,
(27:23):
a lot to it and postgame comments. We don't normally
look for RAMS commentary.
Speaker 1 (27:27):
No, you don't get that a little.
Speaker 3 (27:29):
Fired up raspy Sean McVeigh is good. Yeah, yeah, but
today there's some substance to both sides of this.
Speaker 1 (27:36):
Yeah, oh yeah, no, absolutely, like I really, I mean,
you know that's seen a top gun when in the
very beginning, when Maverick and Goose do the fly by
and the guy spills coffee all over him they're standing outside.
Is often to hear the guy toinga snut those jockeys,
Paul wont fly by and I want some buds. He's screaming,
and the guy walks out, and then Viper comes out
and says, I think that'll just about cover the flybys, like, okay,
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like you think Sean mcvayh walked up to Pookah after today,
after the okay, so you have your what you said
about the officials, you have the apology you had to
make for the dance you did, you worried about your
brother in the car. I think that covers live streams.
I think you should stop doing. I think that's the
last live stream you do, right, Pooka, Okay, great? Thank you.
Don't want to see you in a live stream the
rest of the year. Actually, know what, I don't want
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to see you in a live stream the rest of
the time. You're in a RAMS uniform. No live streams
that could be no, Like, that's the that's the what
the contrast is that is that? Now again? Now I'm
going off the top of my head. Now he's having
a big night to night on the huge But was
that the worst? Was that the worst live stream? Uh
ever that a player's ever done? Was that the worst
(28:42):
live stream? A player thought? I mean, yeah, certainly up there,
that's really bad, man. I Mean we've seen some things
off the live streams that that are controversial, But does
that mean oh wait, the live stream was there for
John Morant, we want to getting suspended because they showed
the gun on there. Well okay, uh that was a
live stream, so but that was you know, they're better
without him. But I don't know he knew that. I
(29:03):
don't think he knew it was a live stream. Maybe
johnmer I forget if he didn't know there was a
guy or not. Yeah, if that guy, you know, this
was a full no, this is live stream.
Speaker 3 (29:11):
Yeah, like the thing that he issued, the apology, the dance,
and we get into anti semitism and larger discussions there.
It's like there's the question of whether he had any knowledge, right,
and in his statement he said that, But certainly in
the moment, like when you're agreeing, Hey, I'm gonna go
on this live stream, you know, the guy said he's
got all these followers, Nobody in your in your group
(29:32):
does a vetting process of what he's had and where
he's from. Uh, so you got all that, But that's
that's inconsequential in the moment.
Speaker 1 (29:40):
And right now the Rams look like they're not gonna
be happy until they hand this game to the Seahawks.
The Rams driving and they have the ball now near
midfield Stafford looking for Blake Korum in the middle of
the field. The ball is deflected intercepted by the Seahawks.
Jones comes down with it, but it's hard to see
(30:03):
if he actually got his hands under it, if the
ball hit the ground. It's being reviewed right now. The
call in the fields and in a catch that doesn't
look like it's going to be an interception. It looks
like the point of the football hits the ground, and
maybe a little bit more of the football he kind
of slides with it. I gotta think that's going to
be an incomplete pass unless they really really hate Pooka,
(30:24):
in which they will give the football to the Seahawks.
Speaker 3 (30:27):
Calls on the field was an interception though, and his
hands technically were under it started to slip through and
the point hits But did it move? Yeah, and right
decide that it moved decidedly as he hit the ground.
Speaker 1 (30:40):
It looks like it hits the ground. It looks like
the well, first of all, looks like the point of
the football comes down and touches the ground even before
his hands hit the ground. Then it looks like it
slides a litt bit. It's a very quick review. Matthew
Stafford took off his helmet walking off the sideline. Now
he's put his helmet back on. We're getting the call
right now, they are booing at loomin field. Is an
incomplete pass. So now it's third and six for the Rams. Again,
(31:03):
near disaster for them at midfield. But it looks like
the right call was made. You see the again, watching again,
you see the point of the ball, then you see
more of it on the ground. Yeah, right call is
made there. That's an incoplete pack. I disagree, Well, you
call it on the field. But then upon further review,
the hands under the ball. Point but his hands are
(31:24):
under the ball. No, but the point of the ball
hits the ground before his hands hit the ground with
the ball on it. So if with the ball hits
the ground first, that's not a catch. Hit the ball
that he didn't complete the catch, Larry, he completed the catch.
He didn't complete the catch. Austins the Farran chickens did
not complete the catch. Larry did not complete the catch.
He bobbled all the way out of bounds. Larry, I
don't care if Carl's dead. I didn't complete the catch.
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You can keep yelling all you want, uh flag on
the play, Pukinakua makes a catch for a first down. However,
maybe it's gonna wind up giving the Nope, it's gonna
be off side on whenever they throw a flat Now
you think all gets going on the Rams automatically offside
on the Seahawks is declined. Puka catches it for a
(32:06):
first down, so the Rams have it first and ten
seven and a half to go in overtime. Coming up next,
we're breaking down the winners and losers of one of
the best games of the year in the NFL, Rams
and the Seahawks fighting for first place in the NFC
West and first place overall, the number one seed in
the NFC. Keep it right here, Jason and Mike. Happy
(32:27):
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(32:47):
Tire it away back at halftime when Jackson Smith and
Jigger was a big fat zero. Now seven catches for
ninety two yards, I mean, not quite the night that
Puka Nakua is having. We had two in a second
have the football five minutes to go in overtime driving
they need a touchdown because Matthew Stafford has thrown his
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third touchdown of the night. He waited for Poka and
Acuah to break open deep. It was a big play
by Stafford and the Rams. Thirty seven thirty is the score.
Matthew Stafford now at four point fifty seven and three touchdowns.
Hopefully you're not going against Matthew Stafford in fantasy. Meanwhile,
Poka Nakua with a forty six point night so far,
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and he's at forty six points so far in a
PPR league twelve for two twenty five and two touchdowns,
so huge nights up. Again, this is a Rams offense
without Devonte Adams putting up these numbers, but we could
wind up seeing something even more dramatic, Cooper Cup getting
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the wayback machine to when Cooper Cup was really good
like two years ago. A big catch in a toe
drag at the seventeen yard line, so the Seahawks now
have the ball first down at the seventeen of the Rams.
Meant they need a touchdown to tie this game. But
we thought it could have been over when Buka Akua
catches that ball. Loominfield is silent, but now here are
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the Seahawks finding a way inside the twenty yard line,
now facing a second and eight four minutes ago.
Speaker 3 (34:23):
In ot this game, like many people this holiday season,
is drunk. We have seen highlight upon highlight, Cooper Cup
trying to make make up for his very early fumble.
Remember that was a red zone turnover.
Speaker 1 (34:34):
I felt like it was like three weeks.
Speaker 3 (34:36):
But it's like we talk about the some of the
basketball games, they seem like they ended, you know, last night.
Speaker 1 (34:41):
So this one has just been insane.
Speaker 3 (34:44):
Big plays, big drives, and no ability no matter what
scheme they've tried. And McDonald's throwing the kitchen sink at
the Rams to slow down Pokin nakua. I want to
know what, Sean McVay yelled to him as he came
off the field after that touchout.
Speaker 1 (34:58):
I start you, you still made my weak hell still
no live streams, you still can't to But coach, I
got two hundred and twenty yards receiving. I don't care.
I don't care streams. That's not the inspiration. We need.
No live streams. Not having any live streams, so a
big third and three Remember you're in two down territory
if you are the Seattle Seahawks. They have the ball
the Rams nine yard line. They get the first down.
(35:20):
It is a burst to the four yard line, so
make it a first and goal for Seattle. Charbonnay gets
the first down. Three and a half left to go again,
thirty seven to thirty. Rams are the lead over the Seahawks. Again,
we've talked about this a lot. It doesn't seem like
it makes any sense that this game is as close
as it is because the Seahawks got outplayed throughout most
(35:43):
of the game. But here we are right now and
Seahawks are here knocking on the door. They try to
go tempo and they can't. The Rams call time out.
So time out on the field right now, First and
goal for Seattle. Let's see now we're up. Well, we're
at a fouls and total yards for the game as
we sait there. For the penalty narrative, it's only eight
(36:05):
to five, so it's not overwhelming. It may seem it,
and they've come in big spots. What would the penalty
call be if Pooka doesn't do the live stream insulting
the refs? I don't know. I'd have to go back penalty.
Speaker 3 (36:17):
What the referees have done all day, well, I mean,
like as we talked about yesterday, there's still gonna be
plenty of opportunity in the standalone game.
Speaker 1 (36:26):
I'm not throwing that flag. No, no, no, no, worry about it.
You guys are good.
Speaker 3 (36:28):
Yeah, but you're not hiding at a one o'clock window.
If you blatantly just say ah, I'm not calling that.
You're gonna get called to the carpet for that too,
by one side or the other, particularly in a very
raucous loom.
Speaker 1 (36:38):
In the field. I mean a thousand yards of offense,
and it doesn't feel like the Seahawks have any of them, right,
it feels like it's all the Rams. But the Seahawks
have run for one hundred and seventy yards and now
we have a chance at a tie, potential go ahead
if they go for two. Because Jackson Smith and Jigba,
who is a big fans here drama. Now he's gotten
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four fantasy points. He catches a touchdown in the back
of the end zone. Thirty seven thirty six, three point
thirteen left, and now the decision's gonna be made. Is
it going to be. It looks like the offense is
staying on the field for the Seahawks. They're going for
two and the win right here. This I love this call.
(37:21):
Right before whatever happens, I love this call. Rather than
give the ball back to the Rams and offense put
up four hundred yards, go and try to win the game.
Right here.
Speaker 3 (37:28):
You think they're putting some ACDC through the loud speakers,
the biggest, biggest.
Speaker 1 (37:35):
I mean, because you think about it, this is where
in theory you would say, well, tie the game. See,
you know there's still time left, put your defense back
on the field. But this is the Rams have been
able to do whatever they want to do. You really
think you're keeping them out of the end zone or
away from field goal range. You have three and a
half minutes left, right you have three and a half minutes.
You're at home. Go for the juggler. You can get
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three yards right here. Again, we're seeing the replay of
the JS touchdown to the time from the end zone.
Great Sam saying, I'll give you a lot of credit,
Sam Sam Sam Sam samund He has come back from
a brutal first two and a half quarters to have
a really good last quarter and a half plus, and
now they're back on the field for a two point
conversion that could potentially give the number one seed to
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the Seahawks or the Rams, depending how this play goes.
Speaker 3 (38:23):
Yeah, I mean, look the old uh nobody wants to tie.
Oh hey ties, So yeah, go for it. I mean
that it's the right thing to do if it was
a defensive battle, right, and now the Seahawks are taking
a time out if it was a defensive battle, if
it was a thirteen to thirteen game, and you kick
a field, okay, but the way you gotta you gotta
go by how the game is, and the game is
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a thousand yards of offense. So what are the odds
you really think? Oh, but I had confidence in my defense,
don't You're just stupid. If you had confidence your defense
hadn't stopped them the entire game. Don't put them back
on the field like you you have playmakers. It looked
like they had that last play set up with Jackson
Smith Njigbo with one on one cover on the outside,
but again time out by the Rams. Phuka Nakua and
(39:04):
Matthew Stafford are laughing on the sideline right before this
two point conversion. A little weird to see him laughing
like that, but real stressful. But okay, you're an offensive player.
You've kind of done your job with you know, four
hundred yards passing, a two hundred yard received stuff.
Speaker 1 (39:20):
You you do.
Speaker 3 (39:20):
I mean, at some point you're just marveling that you're
in this situation. You've taken advantage of opportunities. You look
at the passing yard and you got eight different guys
with a reception for the rams of at least thirteen yards.
Speaker 1 (39:32):
Yeah, it's been a big night offensively. And so now
I don't think we're gonna get a time out again
because you know, we just had back to back timeouts.
So it's gonna wind up being an all enoughing play
and it is a two point conversion. The Seahawks win it.
Sam Donald buys enough time, Sam, Sam, Sam, Sam, Look
at Sam Donald the hero? Apologize now. Jason snatching the
(39:55):
MVP in the NFL away from Matthew Stafford. Sam Arnold
made a good pass, made a good decision. What do
you want me to say? I want you to say,
your team destroys every good quarterback in this league, Like
that's new news.
Speaker 4 (40:10):
Your team literally destroys every good quarterback Aaron Rodgers snapped
his achilles.
Speaker 1 (40:14):
Your seems cursed. It's like everything. It's like when the
devil touches something in a movie and it just dies
right away. Uh the touchdown, a two point conversion thirty
eight to thirty seven is your final in overtime, we
break it down with Jay Glazer coming up next. The
Seahawks could wind up being the number one seed in
(40:36):
the NFC after that two point conversion. Whoo, we got more.
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(01:06):
Lebron misses a three with about forty seconds left to go.
The Jazz take it down the other way for a bucket.
They have the ball now with a four point lead
and twenty five seconds left to go. Looks like the
Jazz are going to beat the Lakers here or actually, sorry,
we're going to the end of the third quarter. It
looks like the Jazz are going to get to the
end of the third quarter with a four point lead
over LA. Meanwhile, the drama in Seattle. It is a
(01:31):
thirty thirty game right now with five and a half
to go in the fourth quarter. This game doesn't feel
like it should be close at all. It feels wow.
Both teams are playing great. No, the Rams have been
just beating the Seahawks up and down the field, but
the Seahawks have put a couple of big plays together.
And it's thirty to thirty. It's thirty to thirty because
(01:54):
of one of the most bizarre reviews you will ever see,
and it kind of reminded me a little bit of
the UIC City Miracle. So the Seahawks get a touchdown
to pull them within thirty twenty eight. Right Barner is
wide open for some reason on the far side of
the field. Darnald, rolling to his weak side, turns throws.
He's wide open. Touchdown, So thirty to twenty eight and
(02:18):
the Seahawks are going for two. Now. They try a
quick hit play where Darnald takes the snap and turns
and throws really quickly to Zach Charbonay, who is lined
up wide. One of the Rams defensive linemen gets his
arm in the way deflex the ball. It hits the ground,
bounces in the end zone incomplete pass. Zach Charbonay just
kind of finishing the play, walks into the end zone
(02:40):
and picks up the football. But play is over. No
two point conversion, and the Rams now still have a
two point lead with half the fourth quarter left to go.
Except upon further review. And they looked at this from
a thousand different angles, and there's one angle that made
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it look like it really was a backwards pass and
the ball was live. There was one angle made to
look like nope, this is right down the line, and
this is gonna wind up staying and not being overturned. Instead,
it gets overturned. It is viewed to be a backwards pass.
So it's a fumble, and because Zach Charbonnat is the
(03:20):
only guy somewhat paying attention, he recovers it in the
end zone. It's a two point conversion. It's now a
tie game. Here's how it sounded on Amazon. So Bran
Allen is the man of the moment, right now it
tells us after reviewing the play, the quarterback through a
backward pass which the recovered in the end zone by
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the offense, and he's a trust no conversion. I don't
know that you'll ever see something like that again. And
it really reminded me of the Music City Miracle that
you saw the play from so many different angles, and well,
we can't really go back and say it wasn't because
it looked like white Check's pass was was, you know,
right down the line. This at least from the one angle,
(04:05):
looked like Darnold did throw it behind him. Looked like
he threw it with his arm at about the nine
yard line, and the ball was deflected somewhere around the
nine and a half yard line, close to the ten
and this is where it bounced out. And look, the
Rams tried to curl, tried to pick it off, but
he did. It hit the ground and they're all thinking, okay,
incomplete pass, and here's Zach Charbonay recovering the ball in
(04:28):
the end zone and it's a two point conversion. Oh,
by the way, nothing at stake except the number one
seed overall in the NFC with this game, so not
a lot out there don't doctor worry about a lot
other than Hey, if the Rams win, boy, they're gonna
be the number one seed because they have the big
tie breaker with the Seals. If the Seas win, hey,
they control their own fate last two games to having
games at Lumen Field all the way through. So nothing
(04:48):
at stake on that review at all.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
You know, it's a perfect time of year for a
call like this because people have a lot of tinfoil
all over the places and they do their decorations for
you know, little projects in the holiday holiday, high holiday,
whatever you celebrate, however you celebrate, I have a blast
one and take care of your people. But it's the
tin foil hat conspiracies is already being called the pukin
Nakua conversion.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
Oh, I can't wait here, Nikola. After the game, Pooka,
do you think they really just screwed you on a
couple of those plays there because you couldn't keep your
mouth out on that live stream. Oh, by the way,
I have other questions about the live stream as well,
not even going with the officials, but let's deal with
this one first.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
Yeah, So the backwards pass and you see Charbonay, he
just literally just goes to pick up the football. Right,
it's like the end of the longest yard, no, no,
no crew, and he picks it up and I got
a football. And that's what sharbon Ay does here because
there's a clear recovery, right, we always get to that
of all right, the play might have been called wrong,
but was there a clear recovery? Yep, there he is
(05:48):
picking up and spinning the football. Thirty thirty game. And
I'll tell you, Bran Allen, he was on TV. You
saw him make that call. Everybody cheered. He Hey, he
found my way directly. Yeah, mention your name, Joe, It's
Brad Allen. No, let's I mean it's Brad Allen, like
he'll say the name here. It was send your cards
(06:10):
in the letter to the league office regarding Brad Allen.
And it was pretty clear, I mean, just where Charbonay
was lined up that the intent was to set up
the screen and a quick bulldozer with the offensive line
ahead of him. And so it's even if it's just
slight waffer thin, it was enough to get over stat
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that they put up on the broadcast.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
You'll appreciate this. One Seahawks all time zero and one
seventy two when trailing by fifteen or more in the
fourth quarter, there's one of those things like we do
with Steve.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
It's a random stat yeah, depending on where you want
to hit the start button.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
But there it is, you know. And that's the thing
is that NFL officials have to this play now. We're
seeing this now. It's happened a couple of times this year.
I was always a big proponent of you know, when
a quarterback throws the ball and it gets knocked out
during a sack and you blow the play dead. You
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can't blow the play dead. You have to let it
go because you can't you don't know if his arm
was going forward or if the ball was knocked out,
but they blow the play dead and you can't go
back and look at it. Right. So I for the
longest time, it took a long time to you know what,
you just got to let that go, Let the play go.
You can go back and look at it and you
don't need to blow the play dead. And it took
a while for that to become sort of the norm.
(07:29):
With this bright here, if I think all teams have
to understand, and this is where every team has to
when a pass is thrown behind the line of scrimmage
or at the line of scrimmage. You throw an out
to a wide receiver or an out to a running back,
and it's an incomplete pass. You have to play every
pass like it is a fumble. You can't stop and think, okay,
incomplete because you don't know how it's gonna look. You
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don't know where the ball is gonna be thrown. You
don't know if you want to if you want to
challenge it, then it looks like, oh, it was a
backwards pass. Every team needs to play these get needs
to play these downs like the ball is live and
officials can't blow the whistle until after the play is over,
which means the ball is skiders out of bounds or
someone falls on it and that's the end of the play.
(08:12):
You have to let it go all the way because
you see a play like this where man, I mean,
all of a sudden, because it's weird that nobody it
wasn't really heads up play against. You could say Charpaday
was kind of heads up because he kind of does
it very hey, just in case I'm gonna pick up
the football. He doesn't run and dive on it like ball, No,
so you don't want to have that be the case.
(08:32):
So that that's where I think teams have to Teams
have to understand that all right, when this happens in
the future, you treat that play like it's all the
way till the end, right, kind of like in baseball
when they first started doing the challenges and if there
was a close play at first base, uh, and someone
was called out and but you it might be caught
if the first baseman win and the runner started going
(08:54):
back to the dugout and he tagged him out, you know,
uh because he cutting across the diamond. That's an so
you can you can appeal if you want to, but
he didn't. So you had to tell all your players, hey,
when this happens, don't come back in, stay on the field,
go back to first base. We might challenge that. Then
if we don't challenge, you come off. So it's just
seeing it all the way through to the end. But
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that's really where where the teams need to be because
every single play that's such a big player, that's a
play we're talking about potentially that could flip home field
in the NFC playoffs. And it was okay, yeah, the
Rams thought the play was over, that Seahawks thought the
play was over, the officials thought the play was over,
and it's just oh, by the way, I'm picking it up. Hey,
we go back and look at it. Oh, it wasn't
(09:35):
backwards pass, and now the game is tied. Yeah, I
mean to take it into your coaching experience. I mean,
I'm sure in the soccer realm you taught your kids.
The balls goes out of bounds and it's a fifty
to fifty, you go and grab the ball, make the
ar actually make a call as opposed to looking at
each other, and then eventually whoever grabs the ball usually
gets to throw in directly thereafter. So go and make
(09:58):
your way to have that op tunity. So coming down
to it, here a huge play as we battle for
the NFC West. Right now, the Rams have a first
down deep in Seahawks territory and it may be more
a thirty to thirty game. Again, Okata may get a
big flag for leading with his helmet for unnecessary roughness.
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It's a big play for the Rams downfield. They're looking
at it right now, Matthew Stafford looking in a night
where you don't really have your star wide receiver DeVante Adams.
You gotta go other places. Ferguson with a big catch there.
It's been a big night for Nakua. But Ferguson the
guy coming down with it, he is wide open down
the field. They are deep in Seattle territory right now,
(10:41):
two and a half to go, and again the game
is tied at thirty apiece. But depending how this game ends,
that play is gonna wind up being a really big deal.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
Yeah, Drake Thomas trying to cover Ferguson and had no chance.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
Love the hate the Drake. I love the Drake. Hate
the drake. Drake failed in.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
His opportunity here to make a big play and then
got no help in the secondary.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
Really just an odd review. I mean just there was
such an odd review of seeing it so many times and.
Speaker 3 (11:07):
Thin depending on your angle, right as you said, just
flip the camera to the other side of the field,
it's like, well, kind of looks like it's straight down
the line.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
Yeah, yeah, I mean really, the overhead angle was the
one that made it look like, Okay, that's a backwards pass. Okay,
I can see it right there, But then you look
at the other ones like, oh, that looks like that
was straight, but that was the best angle and clearly
that was the best to see where that where that
bowl was, So I get why they reversed it. It's
just this is not the spirit of what they want
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that play to be in the NFL. So there's got
to be a little bit more attention to detailed look
and it's a big playoff. Teams do it all the time.
They like to do trick plays throwing it back, so
it's never going to be a case where, okay, if
a quarterback throws the football, it's always going to be
considered a forward pass.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
Right.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
You know, you can't get to there, but you need
to be able to play it all the way through
the plate to the whistle. Right, play you were a whistle,
but we did have the way, you know, we had
to go all the way and everybody still thought it
was over. So that's not really what the NFL wants.
So I got a feeling this is going to be
on teams and the league to say, listen, this is
where it is. Don't blow the whistle until the play
absolutely ends, and teams are gonna tell their guys, hey,
(12:12):
go after that football like it's live. Even if you
know it's not.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
Yeah, that was a fairly short review too, right, we
didn't get all the lasers and protractors out. It's like, ah,
I run down the line, let's see the arm angle
and everything else. But it's the easiest two points Charbonnay
will ever score for your fantasy team.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
Yeah. Well, I think what happened was was bred Allen
got in the headset and said, how long do you
have to pretend to do stuff here before I could
say blank Pooka and give the two point conversion to
the Seahawks. How long do you have to have It's good?
Long enough, long enough? Okay, yeah, backwards past blank you Pooka. Hey,
two point Seattle.
Speaker 3 (12:47):
As you say that, Pooka was just getting into it
with some Seattle defenders and they had to be separated.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
So we're coming down to the two minute warning. The
Rams are in field goal range with the football time
out Seattle. They want to save some time left because
the Rams are facing a third down if they get
the ball back if they stop the Rams here on
third and eight. So we have high drama coming up next.
Are we talking about a huge Rams victory where they're
gonna run their way to home field advantage or the
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Seahawks ground it away from them. That's next right here,
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Speaker 1 (14:30):
Boy. We really got something going on here now on
Thursday Night Football, Yeah, singing at Christmas song Rams and
the Seahawks. There's a minute left to go. The Rams
have the football at midfield. They have just made two
incredible catches in a row, one by Poka Nakua to
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keep what could be a game winning drive alive. On
a big second down and long, Matthew Stafford just chucks
it up to Pukah who's got one on one coverage.
And maybe Puka should do more live streams because the
bad publicity that he's gotten the last couple of days,
insulting the refs, having to apologize for a dance. He
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is at nine for one sixty eight and a touchdown tonight,
and he just made a great leaping grab that gave
them a first down for twenty five yards. Again, third
straight game for Nakua that he has over one hundred
and fifty yards receiving. This is the kind of year
he is having right now. I mean this is one
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sixty seven, one eighty one against Detroit last week. Now
one sixty eight again. Uh, this is an incredible run
by him. But you just saw a great catch as well.
Mumphrey makes a big catch at midfield. The ball gets
tipped at the line of scrimmage and it's one of
those living right plays where a manu the Rams you
are living right, bounces into his hands, so they have
(15:55):
the ball at midfield fifty seconds left to go. I
want to get as close as possible, because you do
always want to get as close as possible. But the
Rams just missed a go ahead field goal a few
moments ago that could have given him a thirty three
to thirty lead. So if you're the Rams, you're not
feeling so great about kicking this field goal here that
could win the game. But another ten or fifteen yards
(16:18):
you certainly are trying a game winner. The Seahawks out
of timeouts now, so if the Rams are on the
ten fifteen yards, they'll be able to at the very
least take it all the way down to the end
and attempt a game winning field goal.
Speaker 3 (16:28):
He got some big wins there in Seattle mevs. Hair's
of Mevas with the field goal attempt from forty eight
that was sandwiched in between two three and outs. Great
work by the Rams defense to give him a shot.
But both of those catches just absolutely absurd. The first
was great placement of the ball by Stafford and Nikua
just doing what he's done to defense his time and
(16:50):
again twisting, turning, coming up with the ball the other
as a tip drill. The defender couldn't have played that
any better. Just strong hands to control it, come down
with that catch.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
It really is. This is two heavyweights slugging it out right.
You hear all the thing, but the fact that the
Seahawks are playing terribly and Sam Donald has been absolutely
awful tonight. He has been terrible. He has not seen
the field well, He has held out of the football
too long. He is getting passes batted down the line
of scrimmage regularly. And it's still thirty to thirty, and
(17:21):
somehow the Seahawks have found a way to keep this
game tied with a minute left to go in regulation.
Speaker 3 (17:26):
But when he got baited by the defensive lineman on
the inner his second interception, that's the play that's gonna
stand out for me because as he's running off the field.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
A man, I'm tired. I'm tired.
Speaker 3 (17:37):
It's like I'm done, and it's not Sam Donald the defender.
It was just kind of funny just watching him take
after engaging in the block, take three steps back and
tutta there it is. It would have been JSN in
one on one coverage, The still would have been a
really tight window even if he wasn't standing there ready
to put his big mits on it. But yeah, they
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in spite of Darnold's futility and many many circumstances, we
got ourselves to tie game inside a minute.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
Big third and ten for the Rams right now, drop
past the sideline could have been a gain of seven.
Need a little bit here, right You're not trying to
field goal from here, and you're also not going for
it on fourth down. So this is a big third
and ten for the Rams. I have to think if
they get closed, boy, if they get that, that's some
(18:27):
kind of call. That's a Sean McVay call right there.
But if you are the Rams, hey, they've been going
for it on fourth down. They've done it a couple
of times tonight. I think if they get close here
on third and ten, they'll go for it instead. Stafford
looking for Nakua across the middle of the field, the
pass falls incomplete. It is fourth and ten from midfield
for the Rams. So the Seahawks will get the football
(18:52):
back one more time unless they kick to Shaheeda again,
which and maybe maybe then the Rams get the ball
back one more time, shieta be back. I'm sure this
is gonna be one of those kicks that goes through
the end zone because again the Rams are punting from midfield.
But Sam Darnold and company has forty nine seconds. They
just have to get in field goal range. No timeouts.
But it's not a lot. You're talking about forty five yards.
(19:16):
You have plenty of time to get up spike it.
You have one of the best bounty receivers in the game. Look,
the two best wide receivers in the game are playing
right now and put in a coup in Jackson Smith
the Jigba. So forty two seconds left, these Seahawks can
defy reality by somehow winning this game. I really it
makes it. This is it. If no one saw this game,
if no one saw this game, they would say, wow,
(19:37):
this but back and forth, what a great slug fest.
Now the Rams have been absolutely pummeling the Seahawks the
entire game, and somehow it's tied. Donald stinks and he
can still be the hero.
Speaker 3 (19:48):
We've been treated to eight hundred and fifty six yards
of total offense, a punt return for a touchdown, the
most curious two point conversion in recent memory, also known
as the Nakua conversion, and all just sorts of chaos
left and right, and now we have an opportunity. Jason
Myers hit a fifty six yard or last week, Yeah,
(20:09):
you don't need money.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
Now you have a wind. Good be an issue.
Speaker 3 (20:12):
We watched that with the mevs kick that just started
sailing sailing, so I was like, oh, you interesting, No
he didn't.
Speaker 1 (20:18):
It did missed. So we'll see adventures and kicking perhaps
coming out a quick screen pass to Charbonnay gains about
twelve yards the spike. Twenty nine seconds left to go,
and the Seahawks have the football their own thirty one
yard line, so still need some work to do, but
still thirty seconds, eleven yards, eleven yards every ten second.
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They'll get to a point where you can kick, because remember, yeah,
fifty six sixty yards, that's his range marks one of
the best kickers in the NFL. He had twelve field
goals last week, so he just you know, needs one more,
one more long one. How seconds things just got much
more difficult for the Seahawks because Sam Darnold fails to
get rid of the football ford in the backfield and
(21:00):
looked like a scary play. Uh. Sam Darnold got dragged down,
his feet slipped from under him. He is sacked, and
it looks like this game is going to overtime because
the Seahawks aren't going to run another play. Donald was sacked,
So now it's a third and eighteen. We are going
to overtime. Donald looks like he's all right walking off
(21:20):
the field, So the Seahawks didn't want to risk anything.
So now we get extra football because of that big
sack by Ford where the Seahawks seemed like they were
maybe two plays away from kicking a game winning field
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(21:42):
this game?
Speaker 5 (21:43):
Uh, I do fantasy football teams?
Speaker 1 (21:46):
Yeah, who do you have tonight?
Speaker 5 (21:48):
I'm like I have Matthew Stafford.
Speaker 1 (21:49):
Okay, that's good.
Speaker 5 (21:51):
And Jason Myers too.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
Wise he stupid because because he got two points.
Speaker 5 (21:59):
Zero but two points.
Speaker 6 (22:02):
And I'm playing in one in one league in playoffs, right,
playoffs that matter, not the playoffs and the other one
that I'm losing, but to that matter, I have, I
have Matthew Staffer.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
Anymore, how to playoffs? Well, because you know you can
in the playoffs.
Speaker 5 (22:15):
No, because you could be in the playoffs, but in
the loser's bracket.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
So but you're not in the playoffs. That's not the playoffs.
Speaker 5 (22:21):
Literally says playoffs.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
That's the loser's bracket.
Speaker 5 (22:24):
Thank you. So that that's not what I'm talking about.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
I realize as a Clipper fan you're not as familiar
with the actual playoffs and how they work. So I
just wanted to tell you that right now. That's how
its cold blooded. I thought it was the holiday holidays, holidays.
Speaker 6 (22:39):
The Clippers, Like, do you go to crap on the
Jets or something.
Speaker 5 (22:42):
I'm like, so confused.
Speaker 1 (22:43):
You go to Clippers losers bracket playoff games? Can you
kick him? I will? I got you.
Speaker 5 (22:50):
Can you kick him?
Speaker 1 (22:51):
Really? Just that's that's just so.
Speaker 5 (22:55):
I hope you fall on your way to the car
and rip your pants.
Speaker 1 (22:57):
Wow, he's a brand new pants.
Speaker 5 (23:01):
I hope they rip so bad. And I hope you
get a nice.
Speaker 1 (23:04):
My wife would be very upset if I ripped these pets.
It sucks for you, that's how you bought them.
Speaker 5 (23:08):
It sucks for you.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
It's just the style. They're ripped right on the seam
on the cross. Yeah, that's the style. Now she comes
to run it up, doing the full John Cena. You
can't see me after you fall and rip your pants.
The fantasy app just wants you to continue to use it,
so they make up the Hey, you're in the loser's bracket.
Speaker 5 (23:27):
Thank you, thank you.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
Mike, sit this one out. You don't wear pants, so
the matter.
Speaker 5 (23:32):
So the playoffs that matter. I have Matthew Stafford.
Speaker 1 (23:35):
All right, and Jason.
Speaker 6 (23:37):
Myers, and I'm playing against Pokinakua and the other one.
Speaker 1 (23:41):
Oh good, but that's in the loser's bracket. No no, no,
no, no no no.
Speaker 5 (23:44):
I have two of that. I have good ones and
then one loser's bracket.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
Well I think that one you're playing against Puka. You'll
be in the loser's bracket next week. Don't say that
in the third place. Can you see something nice to me?
You're a wonderful person, one of the greatest people I know.
Speaker 5 (23:56):
Well, I don't believe that.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
Why would I sweam? Oh, I look you who you are?
And I got to tell your reality about the Clippers.
I know, I know, I really thought there was the
way he gestured. Did you not think there was a
one liners way?
Speaker 5 (24:10):
I was waiting for it. They're aded two overtime in Seattle.
You guys have broken it down.
Speaker 6 (24:15):
But Matthew Stafford has thrown for three hundred and eighty
seven yards and two touchdowns and Sam Darnold has thrown
for two hundred and twenty one yards, one touchdown and
two interceptions.
Speaker 5 (24:24):
But they're headed to overtime. What a night, because this
game got exciting. NBA games got exciting.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
The Nicks, We're excited, Nicks, We're exciting.
Speaker 6 (24:33):
The Warriors and the Suns right now are tied at
ninety six with thirty five seconds to go in Phoenix.
Jimmy Butler Jimmy the Man thirty one points, Dylan Brooks
twenty four points for the Suns. The Lakers right now
are up on the Jazz one thirty one to one
twenty with about four minutes to go. Halfway through the
third quarter, the Trailblazers lead the King seventy two to
seventy one, but the Nuggets beat the Magic are ready
(24:55):
one twenty six to twenty six to one fifteen, while
the Pistons and the Mavericks went over time and Dallas
won that one, went sixteen to one, fourteen Cooper flag
with the double double twenty three points and ten rebounds.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
The Pelicans were down well quick, mons, I want, I
want to give you an update on the Eastern Conference standings.
Who's now just a game out of first? Okay? Never mind? Good,
that's okay? Are you serious with the Pistons loss? You know,
let people know, Hey, gotcha? How close are the Knicks
to taking over?
Speaker 5 (25:22):
And how close are they in the Eastern Close?
Speaker 1 (25:25):
Are they there? There? They're a game out, one.
Speaker 6 (25:27):
Game out because they won today on a Jalen Brunson
go ahead three with four and a half seconds seal.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
Yeah, make sure you'd make people know we eliminated the
Pacers from play.
Speaker 5 (25:37):
No, you did not, the little guy, Yeah, the little guy.
Speaker 6 (25:40):
The Pelicans were down twenty five points and they came
back to beat the Rockets one thirty three to one
twenty eight in overtime. In the NHL, there are two
games still going on. Stars over the Sharks three to
one halfway through the second period. Late in the third period,
the Flames are up on the crack end three to two.
Speaker 1 (25:56):
Back to you, thanks a bunch Monzi, I'm rooting for
you all the thanks, all the way through in the
playoffs that matter.
Speaker 5 (26:02):
I appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (26:03):
Don't wait. My message he was, don't waste any karma
or anything in the universe on a fifth place game.
Speaker 5 (26:11):
I don't worry about not. I'm not worried about the
ones that matter.
Speaker 1 (26:14):
Okay, good, good. Stupid Taking playoff advice from Jason is
a no. No. Okay, fantasy playoffs. I know a lot
NFL playoffs. No, I don't nothing about the I'm not
saying about that nothing. Thanks a bunch, Monseny. So what
could have been a great start to overtime for the
Rams comes back because of a flag. Hey Pooka, Hey Pooka,
(26:35):
how do you feel about those refs? Rivers returns the
kickoff back to midfield. However, a hold on the return
takes it back to the twenty yard line. Now, the
Rams did just get a first down, but instead of
starting at the fifty yard line, they were starting at
their own twenty. I really can't wait to hear Pooka akup.
I never thought like this time last week. What are
(26:56):
you really gonna want to hear after Monday night football?
Poka Nakua's postgame pres con.
Speaker 3 (27:00):
And McVeigh addressing how it all came to be right
because they wanted to go into the RAMS facility and
he explicitly said, no, we don't need this here, we
don't want this here. I don't know if he knew
the principles involved right the individuals, because they've got some
history with them, which then became part of that stream
once he went into the van in the parking lot. So, yeah,
(27:23):
a lot to it and postgame comments. We don't normally
look for RAMS commentary.
Speaker 1 (27:27):
No, you don't get that a little.
Speaker 3 (27:29):
Fired up raspy Sean McVeigh is good. Yeah, yeah, but
today there's some substance to both sides of this.
Speaker 1 (27:36):
Yeah, oh yeah, no, absolutely, like I really, I mean,
you know that's seen a top gun when in the
very beginning, when Maverick and Goose do the fly by
and the guy spills coffee all over him they're standing outside.
Is often to hear the guy toinga snut those jockeys,
Paul wont fly by and I want some buds. He's screaming,
and the guy walks out, and then Viper comes out
and says, I think that'll just about cover the flybys, like, okay,
(27:59):
like you think Sean mcvayh walked up to Pookah after today,
after the okay, so you have your what you said
about the officials, you have the apology you had to
make for the dance you did, you worried about your
brother in the car. I think that covers live streams.
I think you should stop doing. I think that's the
last live stream you do, right, Pooka, Okay, great? Thank you.
Don't want to see you in a live stream the
rest of the year. Actually, know what, I don't want
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to see you in a live stream the rest of
the time. You're in a RAMS uniform. No live streams
that could be no, Like, that's the that's the what
the contrast is that is that? Now again? Now I'm
going off the top of my head. Now he's having
a big night to night on the huge But was
that the worst? Was that the worst live stream? Uh
ever that a player's ever done? Was that the worst
(28:42):
live stream? A player thought? I mean, yeah, certainly up there,
that's really bad, man. I Mean we've seen some things
off the live streams that that are controversial, But does
that mean oh wait, the live stream was there for
John Morant, we want to getting suspended because they showed
the gun on there. Well okay, uh that was a
live stream, so but that was you know, they're better
without him. But I don't know he knew that. I
(29:03):
don't think he knew it was a live stream. Maybe
johnmer I forget if he didn't know there was a
guy or not. Yeah, if that guy, you know, this
was a full no, this is live stream.
Speaker 3 (29:11):
Yeah, like the thing that he issued, the apology, the dance,
and we get into anti semitism and larger discussions there.
It's like there's the question of whether he had any knowledge, right,
and in his statement he said that, But certainly in
the moment, like when you're agreeing, Hey, I'm gonna go
on this live stream, you know, the guy said he's
got all these followers, Nobody in your in your group
(29:32):
does a vetting process of what he's had and where
he's from. Uh, so you got all that, But that's
that's inconsequential in the moment.
Speaker 1 (29:40):
And right now the Rams look like they're not gonna
be happy until they hand this game to the Seahawks.
The Rams driving and they have the ball now near
midfield Stafford looking for Blake Korum in the middle of
the field. The ball is deflected intercepted by the Seahawks.
Jones comes down with it, but it's hard to see
(30:03):
if he actually got his hands under it, if the
ball hit the ground. It's being reviewed right now. The
call in the fields and in a catch that doesn't
look like it's going to be an interception. It looks
like the point of the football hits the ground, and
maybe a little bit more of the football he kind
of slides with it. I gotta think that's going to
be an incomplete pass unless they really really hate Pooka,
(30:24):
in which they will give the football to the Seahawks.
Speaker 3 (30:27):
Calls on the field was an interception though, and his
hands technically were under it started to slip through and
the point hits But did it move? Yeah, and right
decide that it moved decidedly as he hit the ground.
Speaker 1 (30:40):
It looks like it hits the ground. It looks like
the well, first of all, looks like the point of
the football comes down and touches the ground even before
his hands hit the ground. Then it looks like it
slides a litt bit. It's a very quick review. Matthew
Stafford took off his helmet walking off the sideline. Now
he's put his helmet back on. We're getting the call
right now, they are booing at loomin field. Is an
incomplete pass. So now it's third and six for the Rams. Again,
(31:03):
near disaster for them at midfield. But it looks like
the right call was made. You see the again, watching again,
you see the point of the ball, then you see
more of it on the ground. Yeah, right call is
made there. That's an incoplete pack. I disagree, Well, you
call it on the field. But then upon further review,
the hands under the ball. Point but his hands are
(31:24):
under the ball. No, but the point of the ball
hits the ground before his hands hit the ground with
the ball on it. So if with the ball hits
the ground first, that's not a catch. Hit the ball
that he didn't complete the catch, Larry, he completed the catch.
He didn't complete the catch. Austins the Farran chickens did
not complete the catch. Larry did not complete the catch.
He bobbled all the way out of bounds. Larry, I
don't care if Carl's dead. I didn't complete the catch.
(31:45):
You can keep yelling all you want, uh flag on
the play, Pukinakua makes a catch for a first down. However,
maybe it's gonna wind up giving the Nope, it's gonna
be off side on whenever they throw a flat Now
you think all gets going on the Rams automatically offside
on the Seahawks is declined. Puka catches it for a
(32:06):
first down, so the Rams have it first and ten
seven and a half to go in overtime. Coming up next,
we're breaking down the winners and losers of one of
the best games of the year in the NFL, Rams
and the Seahawks fighting for first place in the NFC
West and first place overall, the number one seed in
the NFC. Keep it right here, Jason and Mike. Happy
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Tire it away back at halftime when Jackson Smith and
Jigger was a big fat zero. Now seven catches for
ninety two yards, I mean, not quite the night that
Puka Nakua is having. We had two in a second
have the football five minutes to go in overtime driving
they need a touchdown because Matthew Stafford has thrown his
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third touchdown of the night. He waited for Poka and
Acuah to break open deep. It was a big play
by Stafford and the Rams. Thirty seven thirty is the score.
Matthew Stafford now at four point fifty seven and three touchdowns.
Hopefully you're not going against Matthew Stafford in fantasy. Meanwhile,
Poka Nakua with a forty six point night so far,
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and he's at forty six points so far in a
PPR league twelve for two twenty five and two touchdowns,
so huge nights up. Again, this is a Rams offense
without Devonte Adams putting up these numbers, but we could
wind up seeing something even more dramatic, Cooper Cup getting
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the wayback machine to when Cooper Cup was really good
like two years ago. A big catch in a toe
drag at the seventeen yard line, so the Seahawks now
have the ball first down at the seventeen of the Rams.
Meant they need a touchdown to tie this game. But
we thought it could have been over when Buka Akua
catches that ball. Loominfield is silent, but now here are
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the Seahawks finding a way inside the twenty yard line,
now facing a second and eight four minutes ago.
Speaker 3 (34:23):
In ot this game, like many people this holiday season,
is drunk. We have seen highlight upon highlight, Cooper Cup
trying to make make up for his very early fumble.
Remember that was a red zone turnover.
Speaker 1 (34:34):
I felt like it was like three weeks.
Speaker 3 (34:36):
But it's like we talk about the some of the
basketball games, they seem like they ended, you know, last night.
Speaker 1 (34:41):
So this one has just been insane.
Speaker 3 (34:44):
Big plays, big drives, and no ability no matter what
scheme they've tried. And McDonald's throwing the kitchen sink at
the Rams to slow down Pokin nakua. I want to
know what, Sean McVay yelled to him as he came
off the field after that touchout.
Speaker 1 (34:58):
I start you, you still made my weak hell still
no live streams, you still can't to But coach, I
got two hundred and twenty yards receiving. I don't care.
I don't care streams. That's not the inspiration. We need.
No live streams. Not having any live streams, so a
big third and three Remember you're in two down territory
if you are the Seattle Seahawks. They have the ball
the Rams nine yard line. They get the first down.
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It is a burst to the four yard line, so
make it a first and goal for Seattle. Charbonnay gets
the first down. Three and a half left to go again,
thirty seven to thirty. Rams are the lead over the Seahawks. Again,
we've talked about this a lot. It doesn't seem like
it makes any sense that this game is as close
as it is because the Seahawks got outplayed throughout most
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of the game. But here we are right now and
Seahawks are here knocking on the door. They try to
go tempo and they can't. The Rams call time out.
So time out on the field right now, First and
goal for Seattle. Let's see now we're up. Well, we're
at a fouls and total yards for the game as
we sait there. For the penalty narrative, it's only eight
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to five, so it's not overwhelming. It may seem it,
and they've come in big spots. What would the penalty
call be if Pooka doesn't do the live stream insulting
the refs? I don't know. I'd have to go back penalty.
Speaker 3 (36:17):
What the referees have done all day, well, I mean,
like as we talked about yesterday, there's still gonna be
plenty of opportunity in the standalone game.
Speaker 1 (36:26):
I'm not throwing that flag. No, no, no, no, worry about it.
You guys are good.
Speaker 3 (36:28):
Yeah, but you're not hiding at a one o'clock window.
If you blatantly just say ah, I'm not calling that.
You're gonna get called to the carpet for that too,
by one side or the other, particularly in a very
raucous loom.
Speaker 1 (36:38):
In the field. I mean a thousand yards of offense,
and it doesn't feel like the Seahawks have any of them, right,
it feels like it's all the Rams. But the Seahawks
have run for one hundred and seventy yards and now
we have a chance at a tie, potential go ahead
if they go for two. Because Jackson Smith and Jigba,
who is a big fans here drama. Now he's gotten
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four fantasy points. He catches a touchdown in the back
of the end zone. Thirty seven thirty six, three point
thirteen left, and now the decision's gonna be made. Is
it going to be. It looks like the offense is
staying on the field for the Seahawks. They're going for
two and the win right here. This I love this call.
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Right before whatever happens, I love this call. Rather than
give the ball back to the Rams and offense put
up four hundred yards, go and try to win the game.
Right here.
Speaker 3 (37:28):
You think they're putting some ACDC through the loud speakers,
the biggest, biggest.
Speaker 1 (37:35):
I mean, because you think about it, this is where
in theory you would say, well, tie the game. See,
you know there's still time left, put your defense back
on the field. But this is the Rams have been
able to do whatever they want to do. You really
think you're keeping them out of the end zone or
away from field goal range. You have three and a
half minutes left, right you have three and a half minutes.
You're at home. Go for the juggler. You can get
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three yards right here. Again, we're seeing the replay of
the JS touchdown to the time from the end zone.
Great Sam saying, I'll give you a lot of credit,
Sam Sam Sam Sam samund He has come back from
a brutal first two and a half quarters to have
a really good last quarter and a half plus, and
now they're back on the field for a two point
conversion that could potentially give the number one seed to
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the Seahawks or the Rams, depending how this play goes.
Speaker 3 (38:23):
Yeah, I mean, look the old uh nobody wants to tie.
Oh hey ties, So yeah, go for it. I mean
that it's the right thing to do if it was
a defensive battle, right, and now the Seahawks are taking
a time out if it was a defensive battle, if
it was a thirteen to thirteen game, and you kick
a field, okay, but the way you gotta you gotta
go by how the game is, and the game is
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a thousand yards of offense. So what are the odds
you really think? Oh, but I had confidence in my defense,
don't You're just stupid. If you had confidence your defense
hadn't stopped them the entire game. Don't put them back
on the field like you you have playmakers. It looked
like they had that last play set up with Jackson
Smith Njigbo with one on one cover on the outside,
but again time out by the Rams. Phuka Nakua and
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Matthew Stafford are laughing on the sideline right before this
two point conversion. A little weird to see him laughing
like that, but real stressful. But okay, you're an offensive player.
You've kind of done your job with you know, four
hundred yards passing, a two hundred yard received stuff.
Speaker 1 (39:20):
You you do.
Speaker 3 (39:20):
I mean, at some point you're just marveling that you're
in this situation. You've taken advantage of opportunities. You look
at the passing yard and you got eight different guys
with a reception for the rams of at least thirteen yards.
Speaker 1 (39:32):
Yeah, it's been a big night offensively. And so now
I don't think we're gonna get a time out again
because you know, we just had back to back timeouts.
So it's gonna wind up being an all enoughing play
and it is a two point conversion. The Seahawks win it.
Sam Donald buys enough time, Sam, Sam, Sam, Sam, Look
at Sam Donald the hero? Apologize now. Jason snatching the
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MVP in the NFL away from Matthew Stafford. Sam Arnold
made a good pass, made a good decision. What do
you want me to say? I want you to say,
your team destroys every good quarterback in this league, Like
that's new news.
Speaker 4 (40:10):
Your team literally destroys every good quarterback Aaron Rodgers snapped
his achilles.
Speaker 1 (40:14):
Your seems cursed. It's like everything. It's like when the
devil touches something in a movie and it just dies
right away. Uh the touchdown, a two point conversion thirty
eight to thirty seven is your final in overtime, we
break it down with Jay Glazer coming up next. The
Seahawks could wind up being the number one seed in
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the NFC after that two point conversion. Whoo, we got more.
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