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October 23, 2025 40 mins

Jason and Mike are reacting to NBA Opening Night. Tua Tagovailoa explains why he didn't throw the ball to Jaylen Waddle. Aaron Rodgers says playing the Packers on Sunday is not a revenge game. And Sean Payton says he meant no disrespect to Russell Wilson!

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(00:54):
we'll have that big embarrassing NFL story coming up in
a couple of minutes, but we're at halftime of the
second game of the night in the NBA. Obviously the
biggest game the Knicks and their win over the cav
Go New York. Well, second biggest game. There's a lot
of games, but there's some matter more than another, like
the bulls want to have it over the piss bulls.

(01:14):
Yoh yeah, this was one of those finals like from
the nineties. Yeah, it's great, got to beating each other
up down the end. But halftime right now, the Spurs
and the Mavericks. It's San Antonio in Dallas with a
sixty to fifty one lead. And obviously this is the
debut for Cooper Flag. Wemby back in action for the

(01:35):
San Antonio Spurs, and let's do Cooper Flag first. Here.
So far for Cooper Flag in the first half, seventeen minutes,
no points, he is minus seventeen. He's playing a fair
bit of point guard, which is something they talked about
with him. Obviously, no no Kyrie Irving and no assist
for him in the first half. I sort of wonder

(01:56):
watching this if Dallas doesn't have to make a decision
to say, you know what, maybe it's a little too
much for him right now, eighteen years old, coming in
doing this, expecting to be the savior, and we're gonna give,
like hey, starting and and and and being a guy
we count on, okay, because that's that's what we took
you number one for. But man, putting him in making
a point guard and seeing this first half, I have

(02:17):
a sneaking suspicion Dallas is going to have some kind
of adjustment in the second half to take a little
bit of the the possession by possession onus off of
Cooper flag because he just has looked like he's had
a tough time. He looks like an eighteen year old
rookie with it with these, with these step up in
game from the summer league to hear, so I got
a sneaking suspicion second half, you're gonna see something a

(02:37):
little bit different. Steal, a couple of turnovers, the miss
jump shot, the missed Ali oopa effort, all of that
to say, you know, the offense is stalled. I mean
eight assists for the on the the first half h
and a lot of ball stopping and for him like that,
that's a lot of responsibility. And you're playing against the

(02:57):
d a team where defensively, guys get to cheat a
little more with Webb on the court. So I think
you saw a little bit of that in terms of
the offense being bogged down. So curious to see if
they switch him to the two and let him just
try to find a flow and get into the into range.
I know it's curious because in my timeline there were

(03:18):
just a lot of folks going, He's gonna go off.
They're in front of the whole nation and everything, and
it's gonna be huge, And it's like, yeah, you bet
those overs, those are looking pretty tough. You had zero
points for Cooper flag in the first half. You're winning. Yeah,
you probably cashed out too if you how many points
will we have? Zero? I'm not scoring at all. I
want one of those big, crazy parlay bets where the

(03:41):
over under for points and a half is one half
and I'm taking the under. What do you got prosburg,
I guarantee you if this keeps up tonight, Nico's gonna
trade him. Oh yeah, yeah, right after the game. Don't
even shower, get out, You're going to the Lakers. We're
sending you to the Lakers. Straight to the Lakers, and
we're getting Ruey hot Chimore back and gave Vincent. Oh
they can have a little Lebron in that suit. He

(04:04):
showed absolutely no emotion. No, he didn't move. It's like
it was like it was Ai and Lebron. He was
like that Mike, He's cool. We got some stuff on
Lebron coming up definitely later on in this hour, because
oh boy, did we find out there was some drama,
even further drama with the Luca trade. But the flip
side of this, right to look at the Spurs Wemby

(04:27):
in the first half, again, he does look taller. It's stunning,
but he does look taller. Maybe he is seven five
as a fire plug of a man smith, everybody's tall
to me. So twenty one points. He's eight out of
fourteen from the floor, eight rebounds and a block. Now
he does have three fouls. But guys, I gotta tell
you, you know, beginning of last year, I remember saying, hey,

(04:51):
big Bowl prediction for this year. Wemby very quickly becomes
one of the top three players in all of the NBA,
and he was on path for that, but then obviously
getting hurt the blood clot situation, it was, okay, this
is not an injury, this is a medical situation. Fingers cross,
hoping he's able to come back. You look at him
play in the first half. He had a couple of

(05:12):
moves that are just not human and and you know,
I gotta tell you, forget about this year. This might
be the month that Wenby becomes the best player in
the NBA, and it's like, Okay, the torches passed. It's
gonna be a slow passing in the toydough. This might
be in the month of By the time October ends,
we might just say, yeah, you know what, Wenby's the

(05:33):
best player in the NBA. It's yeah, this is it's
happening now. We thought it would be a gradual thing
and Yannis would give it. No, it might be happening now.
I mean some of his shots he's making. He had
a fallaway, one handed jumper that goes from just outside
of the elbows, like a pulpierce kind of shot that
he would he would get in his heyday.

Speaker 3 (05:53):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (05:54):
Just watching him, it's it's it's I don't know how
you stop the guy. Is this what you for being
a prisoner of the moment. I'm telling you, I Wemby's
always had the skill. There's a reason why he was there.
I knew at some point, you knew he was gonna
be the best player in the NBA. But just watching
him tonight, it's like, wow, man, I mean, maybe it's
j VJ. Edge Comb. Maybe it could be, but uh,

(06:14):
I mean, really, Wemby, he's healthy this year, he could
wind up that this could be the year for him. Man,
he might just jump right to the top and say, yeah, okay,
it's rare and it might be where It's kind of
like where Magic and Larry for years had the big
debate all who would you rather have? Would rather have Magic?
Would rather have Larry? At all big? Then Jordan shows
up and he's all this big highlight stuff, and then
all of a sudden, overnight you realized, oh, wait a minute,

(06:35):
I'd rather have Jordan either of them. That guy it's
it's yeah, Magic and Larry were great, but it's that guy.
This guy does everything over here. Yeah, it really might
be that time for for Wenby to have that time.
It's funny coming into the year. He is the fourth
favorite for in the MVP odds, Jokic atop the list,
of course, SGA and then Luca third at four to one,

(06:56):
Wemby at seven to one before tonight's action tipped off.
And the thing that you marvel about is sometimes guys
of that height or six inches shorter, they grow into
having some semblance of a jump shot. He's fluid, right,
He's fluid from start to finish and was and then

(07:17):
obviously we saw that derailed the year ago, and so
now you know all thoughts that we get a full
eighty two plus guz Defensively, he's like trying to go
past three guys the way he recovers and gets after you.
So can't wait for the second half see what they
do with Cooper Flag, whether they can get some semblance
of a flow to their offense against Wenby and the Spurs.

(07:38):
So we got more NBA on the way again, halftime
game of the night right now sixty to fifty one,
Spurs with the lead. Meanwhile, again, I want to say,
the Dolphins are the luckiest team in the NFL. Why
are they the luckiest in the NFL, Because if not
for this absolute Jets dumpster fire oh to seven, we
would say, Wow, the Dolphins are the Vegas dumpster fire

(08:01):
in the NFL. And they might be. I think they
still are. Well, they beat the Jets. It doesn't matter though,
But because you because only you had expectations Jets. Yeah, yeah,
the rest of the world is all right. Maybe if
everything broke right, the Dolphins could at least be useful. Yeah,
and not just expectations. You have them in the Super Bowl.
We heard years ago. I was from two years ago,

(08:23):
and he could have it. I could have him play
it back if you want it from two years ago.
I enjoyed the next win tonight, all of the drama
the last few days with two a tongue of I
looa and saying that, hey, guys got to come to
meetings on time. And suddenly everybody hated to after saying that,
Mike McDaniel hated it. The players hated it, pundits hated it.
Uh to the point where McDaniel last night was saying

(08:44):
what he asked, what do you expect from this game Sunday?
I hope we don't throw ten interceptions. So now suddenly
there's some daylight between Tua and Mike McDaniel as far
as hey, we're going down on this ship together. McDaniel
clearly sees, hey, maybe I can save myself and two
is the sacrifice because clearly it's not working right Tua
in Miami is not working. And then today we get

(09:06):
this bit from to a tongue of Iloa when he
was asked about why he didn't throw the ball more
to Jalen Wattle. Look, Jalen Waddle is an explosive player
and getting the ball in space and patterns across the middle,
like I mean, using him like the like the Seahawks
use Jackson Smith and the jig. But like that, that's
what's worked for them. But Tua didn't really target him
a lot on Sunday. And here he was saying exactly

(09:28):
why he didn't throw the ball as much to Jalen Wattle.

Speaker 4 (09:32):
Yeah, I think with with that, some of it has
to do with being able to see guys with their
guys also.

Speaker 2 (09:40):
Up front and our guys.

Speaker 4 (09:42):
And I'm not the tallest guy in the back there either,
so being able to see and then.

Speaker 1 (09:46):
This is your quarterback that you paid fifty million dollars
a year. Two that's okay for you? And ITAs he says,
I I don't know that. I can. I can. I
couldn't see him. He's doing his Jets tracking. I couldn't
see him. He's right, dude, right now, perfectly for the Jets.
If you trade I would trade that that. This is
how bad it is for the Jets. I would trade
Aaron Glenn and Justin Fields for Mike McDaniel and Tua.

(10:08):
I would do it. Why not, right, that's how bad
it is. But but as your quarterback, I want to
just write that is it in the job description? To
make sure you see people downfield? Right? I think that's
number one on the list, because you know, yeah, you
want to make sure you see guys downfield. Either that
or you really trust the timing and cohesion of your offense.

(10:30):
I'm just looking at an area and throwing up and
a guy's gonna get there. I mean, really, he probably
doesn't see Tyreek Hill either, but just knows Tyreek is
probably ten yards by this guy. I'm just gonna throw
it here at Tyree Kill. But we've always asked that
question between Kyler Murray when it comes to red zone situations.
Go back to Drew Brees. He had the posture of
a guy when he would throw the ball of that
you know, the electronic football game where you'd have to

(10:51):
spend ten minutes setting him up to run a play
and they run around. That was the way the quarterback
would you throw a pass. He had this arc to him.
That's the way Drew Brees ended up having a throw
for for Tua. I had to watch this five or
six times to make sure it wasn't an ai video
mocking in this is really him. I mean, I like

(11:12):
the fact and I always want to say I like
the fact when players are honest, right, players are honest.
I couldn't see him. I didn't see him. That's why
I didn't throw the football. There's being honest to a fault.
And look, because Tua's is pretty much seems to be
a uh you get what you see, right, What you
see is what you get with It doesn't seem like
a guy that that has holds holds back what he

(11:32):
wants to say, has a lot of agenda. I feel
like he's trying to find the right way to lead
and it's never come naturally to him. Sure right, And
that's a big thing because as a quarterback that you're
a face the franchise. It's not about just hey, can
you put up stats? Can you be a leader? Can
you be the face of the franchise? And I feel
like leading for him has always been difficult and he
still doesn't get how to do it. Well, I'm gonna

(11:53):
call out my guys in the media. We should be
coming to didn't say names, but just said we should
be coming to meetings on time. Well, that got met
with a loud thud. So, Okay, hey, listen, I didn't
throw it to Jailen Waddle. I couldn't see him. What
do you mean you can't see the guy. You've been
in the league for a while, you gotta I mean,
there's no way. Did you saw that the Chiefs did
something completely different from all the other teams where you

(12:14):
couldn't see him downfield? That instead did they rush the pass?
All the guys just stood up, jumping up and down,
And I just can't see where Jalen Waddle is. Like.
This is part of what goes on in the NFL.
And I'm glad that you're honest. I'm glad he's honest.
But wow, dude, how can you sit here and say that, Yeah,
whatever we did, I couldn't see him. There was no
way to move out it. There was no way to
move around, move the pocket around a little bit, do
whatever else you're able to do when you're able to

(12:36):
throw for four thousand yards in the season two years ago,
like that, again, this is such a tire fire. And
to everything he says, everything he says, I'm like, I'm
like you just the Dolphins have to move on from him. Man, Well,
how much longer. Can he start like you gotta you
gotta move him at the deadline, Man, he can't. He
can't be your quarterback after this. Yeah, but the obvious

(12:56):
follow up is, all right, you've now been a quarterback
in the NFL for several years, and we know obviously
there's that giant leap from the greatness that we had
going back to the reveal of his surname and everybody
trying to learn how to pronounce it and everything through
to where we are now. This hasn't changed. You didn't
get any taller, You're not Wemby. You didn't suddenly grow.

(13:17):
You didn't suddenly shrink either. Right, this is not a
Benjamin Button situation, at least that we're aware of. So
what did they do defensively differently that took those windows away?
And why do you say the quiet part out loud
like if you're really not seeing stuff, speak to it

(13:38):
on an individual play of Hey, I missed him, like
you said, right, Hey, you know what, there was something
in the window. I didn't trust my vision on that one,
so I didn't. I didn't pull the trigger and I
checked down or I ate the ball whatever, that's fine.
I dirted it I threw it out of bounce, but
to make it a much more overarching conversation, which is

(13:59):
how he raised it, that's a problem. Yeah, I'm not tall.
So what you're saying is you don't see the field
well at all. You don't always have to say the
quiet part out right, You don't always have because you
can find about that. Secondly, it doesn't help you, it
doesn't help them. I mean, really, how does he start
for them after this? Do you have any vote of confidence?
I mean, you take away all of that, you have

(14:21):
to find a way to deal. Like, of all the
quarterbacks that need to get traded at the deadline, it
too has got to be at the top of that list. Like,
I don't know. I mean, I don't know. How how
do you go through the rest of the season. I mean,
clearly he's going to lose his job at some point
to Quinn yours because he was bumped up to be
the number two quarterback in yours. Isn't saying anything. I
don't know why they did. You know, I was glad
to get on the field. I don't know why. So
that's gonna happen. But man, I mean, if you can

(14:43):
move on from him, move on, you gotta do it.
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I'm pretty sure he's got a lot to say about
some of the biggest stories of the last twenty four hours,
including what he do Johnson, Sean Payton, probably Tua keep
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In the NBA right now, San Antonio still leads Dallas
by eleven seventy one to sixty seven and a half
to go in the third quarter, Cooper Flag finally gets
on the board his first NBA points. However, Wemby now

(16:34):
with twenty seven and ten. He is plus eighteen for
the game this day. Antonio up by twelve midway through
the third quarter, so I'll have more basketball on the way.
But joining us now on the hot line for all
the crazy, fun and bizarre NFL news drops of the
last twenty four hours. He has a longtime NFL insider.

(16:55):
You can check him out on the thirty third team.
He is a haul of very good vote. He is
Jason Cole, Jake Cole. What's up ud?

Speaker 6 (17:08):
The big news of today. Okay, Cayli Manning and Teyton
Manning have been fired as coaches of They.

Speaker 1 (17:20):
Had a good run here. I thought you were gonna
say that you whittled down that list of fifty two.
I thought you're gonna say they've been they've been fired
as producers of Chad Powers.

Speaker 6 (17:34):
That's that too. I've not seen Chad Powers, but get that.

Speaker 1 (17:40):
I gotta say it works. It's really funny. I'm stuck
and you know, the only guy who's not funny, and
Steve's on but he plays the character. He's more of
a straight guy, but straight. But the show is really funny.

Speaker 6 (17:52):
I can't get over how good is Okay, I give
it a try. I saw Dan Wetzel recommended he went
in with a low expect phasis and with his plays,
so he he generally has really good taste. So I'll
go with that.

Speaker 1 (18:07):
Like me with every Jets season, I go in with
low expectations. In that way, I'm never really disappointed.

Speaker 6 (18:12):
You know. That's that's a beautiful thing. And yeah, what
are you? You're three and sixteen inspiring Robert Salah. Yeah,
that's that's gone. Well, that's if you combined the Raiders
the Jets and the Dolphins, would you be able to
beat the Lions?

Speaker 1 (18:33):
Okay, hang on, well we still don't have a quarterback.
Do they get to jump on each other's back? So
we're this, We'd have Genty and Breis Hall and Hn
in the backfield, so okay, we got guys that can
run it. We probably enough offensive line.

Speaker 6 (18:48):
You got Garrett, well, you got Garrett Wilson and Watt
and Miners.

Speaker 1 (18:52):
He would be happy to not be just on the Raiders.
So still saying trade me like you would have it?

Speaker 6 (18:59):
You got you got Bauer?

Speaker 1 (19:01):
Sure, sure, but yeah, I.

Speaker 6 (19:04):
Think And here's the thing about that, even with that combination,
the Lions are still better at every spot that's right.

Speaker 1 (19:12):
And there's nobody to throw them the football. I be like,
you know, the thing is yesterday with the Jets and
Woody Johnson, it was so embarrassing, but it was needed,
and it was harsh and it was ridiculous. It was
everything that goes into Jets with Woody Johnson, you know,
throwing justin fields under the bus, saying if we could
complete a pass, that would be nice. You can't win
games with a quarterback having that kind of rating. That

(19:32):
completely tracks for the Jets.

Speaker 6 (19:36):
You can't win a lot of games when you have
an owner who's that bad.

Speaker 1 (19:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (19:39):
True, So that's that tracks even more. And let's look
at Mark Davis as well. I mean, as I was
saying on Twitter, I think either earlier day or yesterday,
the most important guy in any organization is the owner.
If you want to be competitive, look at the owner.

(20:02):
You've now had what twenty six years of Woody? Is
that right? Twenty five years of Woody twenty six Yeah,
that's what it is. Yeah, it's the owner. Doublame, dumb blame,
justin field, dumb point fingers, you know.

Speaker 1 (20:18):
Jake, Jake Cole. They've been playing since the beginning of September.
The Knicks had one day, The Knicks had one game tonight.
They already have more wins in the Jets. True.

Speaker 6 (20:26):
This is how sad New York football is right now.
Stataboo got a scataboo, get like a standing o at
the garden today, right like.

Speaker 1 (20:36):
Yeah, But I mean long term, they're okay with Darton Skataboo.
I think they're okay. The Giants are all.

Speaker 6 (20:41):
Right there, They're okay whatever, We'll see what they are.

Speaker 1 (20:45):
They're at least entertaining Jake Cole and not because we're
laughing at them, right, that is true.

Speaker 6 (20:51):
I get that. But Skataboo just like who is that
big running back that Cleveland had a bunch of years ago?

Speaker 1 (20:59):
What Peyton hillis?

Speaker 6 (21:01):
Yeah? Peyton hillis yeah like scato Like if you rearrange
the letters in Scatabu, I think you get you're eventually
going to get Peyton hillis Wow.

Speaker 1 (21:11):
Cover a Maden, let's go all right, So so there
you go. Because the Jets are too low hanging fruit?
What what do you make of today? What do you
make of ta saying today he didn't throw it to
Jayleen Waddle because he couldn't see him downfield because he's
not the tallest guy. What do you what do you
what do you make of that? From today?

Speaker 6 (21:33):
Lord? Yeah, Like there's some stuff where you just go like,
come on, dude, like even playing with the duke cer
with three years now four years and and this is
the excuse you're going to use this this this is
the week that you get. I mean, come on, well,

(21:57):
it's such a train wreck there. That's low hanging for
two guys, but it's new.

Speaker 1 (22:03):
The Jets is one of the yeah, we know, and
it's it's like the Simpsons, Jeff of stop stop, he's
already dead, Like, okay, it's an with the Jets, right,
this is new.

Speaker 6 (22:12):
I thought, I thought the more interesting is today was
that they're going to hold the Pro Bowl in a ballroom,
Like I really I thought that was actually more interesting
to me than any of the stupidity coming from Tua
or Woody or you know, uh Ian Rappaport trying to
sell that you know that, you know Steven Ross, you know,

(22:34):
only has a warm place in his heart for McDaniel
and that can save McDaniel and and uh in Miami.
Like it's like, there's there's so much idiocy going on
right now.

Speaker 1 (22:48):
You don't like feel like the Cowboys going out for
an impact defensive player. Come on, man, the headlines right
itself showing Peyton hating on Russell Wilson even more after
last time.

Speaker 6 (22:59):
But yeah, but if we got to those, that would
be interesting. The two one is the Tua one's dumb, okay,
because you just look at that and you go and
you just go, that's the explanation you came up with that,
you actually thought of that, you thought of that before
you got to the podium to answer questions. That was

(23:22):
the answer you came up with. And that's where you
just sit there and go, man, you're so lost, you're
so you're so done in this league, and you'll get
another chance with somebody, and you'll go play twelve games,
you know, for another team and probably put up you know,
thirty five hundred yards and twenty one touchdowns and people

(23:43):
will think, Okay, that's really cool. You missed the other
five games because of the inevitable injuries that you have,
because that's just who you are, and you know, you'll
probably play out another three or four more years in
the NFL before you're done. And that's that's my conclusion
with to it. Like it's just you know, like I'm done,

(24:04):
let's move on. The Russell Wilson thing is.

Speaker 1 (24:07):
That's next level stuff right there, all right.

Speaker 6 (24:10):
Like the Russell Wilson thing is it's finally we got
something honest out of Russell Wilson, Like we got something negative.
We didn't get we didn't get something where he like
shows his words carefully. He actually took on somebody, and

(24:32):
good for him that he actually took not that I
think it means much but good for him that he
actually took on Sean Dayton a little bit. Come on, well, Sean, Look,
it's a cheap shot on Peyton's part. He didn't need
to do that because it makes him look small. It's

(24:54):
smaller than Russell, which is tough, and it's unnecessary for
a guy who, you know, try, tried, tried, You found
out he couldn't play, You found out he was done.
You move on. There's no reason to trash a guy

(25:15):
in the way out, even if you don't like him
and you personally have some problems with him and you
think that you know he's selfish, and you're still pissed
off that you're paying him off all this money and
also the things that go with it as you you're
trying to turn your team around. Look, you're in first place.
Why would you Why why take a gratula shot at

(25:36):
Russell to say, hey, we're getting ready for Jackson Dark
That one, that one, to me was Peyton at his worst.
And he's had, you know, some moments in his career
when he's been a small guy and it's unfortunate because
he knows better. That's like, that's the part to me,
Like when Peyton Peyton will often say something off of

(26:00):
off the cuff, and he'll be really pleased with himself,
and then he goes, Sean, or is he really mean that?
And then he thinks about it for a second. He goes, oh, yeah,
that wasn't really classy, wasn't. And you go, know, Sean,
it really wasn't. It wasn't and he and he'll just
and he'll like back off immediately and realize it was
done moment he called me. One time, we ran some

(26:23):
story about Reggie Bush and the heisman. I don't even
remember what it was, how he was going to lose
his eyes. And it was like the week of the
season opening, and he called me and he ripped me
and he said, uh, you plotted this just to have
it come out before the season started. And he ran
in and ran and went on for like a minute
and a half with his rant, and I finally said, Sean,

(26:45):
the news came out, that's why I wrote it. He goes, oh, well,
I believe you. That's honest. Okay, you back down that quickly,
like from your original point, you thought you thought enough
to call me and spend a minute and a half

(27:07):
ripping me up one side and down the other and
I say like full words, and you're like, oh, okay,
you're being You're now being honest. Like again, I think
he says some things that come out of his mouth.
He thinks he's making some kind of really you know,
steed point or doing something, and then he realized it

(27:29):
was kind of stupid.

Speaker 1 (27:30):
Would have been more fun if he'd even lost that game,
that would have been great. This guy he just said,
this guy on me and picking up the fifteen yards
and then green Law getting himself suspended all wonderful things
for the Broncos.

Speaker 6 (27:44):
The green Law thing is really special too, That really
is what is he thinking? Like, come on, man, not
supposed to do that. You're just not supposed to go
after the rest. Don't do that anyways, move me along.
What else do we have? What are the fun stuffs
we got?

Speaker 1 (27:59):
Well, let's thing, okay, is this okay? Your reaction because
we got to do it, I'm sure Cowboy bes.

Speaker 6 (28:05):
Will be reduced to fifty people.

Speaker 1 (28:09):
Yeah no, no to Jerry Jones. To Jerry Jones saying that, hey,
the Cowboys are on the lookout for an impact defensive
player at the trade deadline. Exactly there it is, he
doesn't need to say it. That says giggle, drop the mic,
drop the mic. That's it. He's on Twitter at Jason

(28:32):
Cole sixty two. That's jackson Cale sixty two.

Speaker 6 (28:37):
Check out Crosby had Well, we got to first round picks.

Speaker 1 (28:48):
I really would let if I could find if I
could find the number for the Cowboys, I would call
Jerry Jones's office and pretend to be the Packers and say, hey,
you want to trade us for Michael.

Speaker 6 (28:58):
Parkson's We'll take five picks.

Speaker 1 (29:03):
I got the floor on the phone. I didn't get
him back.

Speaker 6 (29:08):
Kevin Costner in draft day.

Speaker 1 (29:16):
Here goes Jason call, Hey, that new young GM Scottie
Carson down there in Jacksonville. Tackle trade away my first
round picks for all those second rounders? Is doing all that?
It would be very drafting. Now I'm calling back and
I'm getting I'm getting him. Answer the phone. If we
can get macam back, Sonny, be honest with me, what's happening?
Answer that phone. That was my backup guy got taken too.

(29:37):
I don't know what to do. Backup guy like he's
in a fantasy league. Like I kind of feel like
that's kind of how the Cowboys do the draft anyway, Oh,
there goes our backup guy, Stephen Steven. What do you have?
What else we got? That's as far as we got
in our prep because we figured he'd be there time
now to find out what's trending in the wide world
of sports. And someone who's been called the Dennis Leary

(29:59):
of Fox Sports it's radio. Wait a minute, this could
go a lot. We can go coach that Browns team
if as long as long as you get David Buttney,
it's and.

Speaker 3 (30:08):
Coach any team that's right, I can do it. I
would whip them into shape. I don't know what's going on.

Speaker 1 (30:14):
You would blow. You'd be a coach that would blow
the whistle every five seconds.

Speaker 3 (30:17):
So probably yeah, so I I yeah, definitely. I hate losing.
So definitely that's my style. You should see me on
Tuesday nights when it means nothing. It's just a recreational
volleyball game. And I'm a foul mood when I lose,
like the Clippers tonight.

Speaker 2 (30:38):
Foul.

Speaker 1 (30:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (30:41):
Yeah, we'll get to that. Was that even basketball? I
don't even know. Listen, Spurs are giving the Mavericks.

Speaker 1 (30:47):
Wait wait, wait, has Utah hit two hundred yet for no, it's.

Speaker 7 (30:51):
Over the mercy rule. They stopped it with five minutes
to go. Yeah, they're like, we're gonna, we're gonna.

Speaker 3 (30:58):
Wrap this up. It's embarrassing for every all these old men,
all these unks on the Clippers can't breathe in Utah again.

Speaker 7 (31:06):
That's what I'm gonna blame it at on the weather,
all right.

Speaker 3 (31:09):
Yeah, Spurs and Mavericks, and the Spurs are shooting like
fifty five percent from the field. Mavericks are shooting like
thirty three percent from the field. Victor Winbanyama has been
hot the entire game. He's got thirty one points, ten rebounds.
Spurs are up eighty four to sixty six with about
three minutes to go in the third quarter.

Speaker 7 (31:26):
But this finally happened.

Speaker 2 (31:28):
Davis does starts a second half on the floor.

Speaker 6 (31:31):
Wag is finally on the board.

Speaker 1 (31:35):
Those are the first points in the career of Cooper Flag.

Speaker 3 (31:40):
Cooper Flag only took two shots in the first half,
but he's on the board again. Mavericks are losing at home,
though to the Spurs. Halfway through the third quarter, it's
the Kings on top of the Suns eighty four to
seventy and the Trailblazers are on top of the Timberwolves
seventy three to seventy to seventy and the Anthony Edwards
is twenty five points. The Knicks outscored the Cavaliers at

(32:00):
home one nineteen to one eleven. Magic held on one
twenty five to one twenty one against the Heat, and
the seventy six ers survived one seventeen to one sixteen
against the Celtics in Boston. Rookie vj Edgecombe in his
debut thirty seven points and seven rebounds for Philadelphia, but
Tyrese Maxey led the way really with forty points and
six assists. Joel Embiid one of his first out one

(32:22):
of his first outings one of the worst, four points
and six rebounds. The Bulls started the season with a
one fifteen to one eleven win at home over the Pistons.
Jazz scored forty three points in the first quarter never
looked back.

Speaker 7 (32:34):
They rolled past the Clippers one twenty nine to oneh eight. Seed.

Speaker 3 (32:37):
We only lost by twenty one, not the thirty seven
that we were losing by a good point, Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 7 (32:43):
Listen, little victories. Bucks defeated the Wizards.

Speaker 3 (32:46):
Won thirty three to one twenty Hornet stopped the Nets
went thirty six to one seventeen, Raptors Cruise passed the
Hawks win thirty eight to one eighteen, and the Grizzlies
beat the Pelicans won twenty eight to one twenty two.
Latest NHL game as wrapped up Canadian over the Flames
two to one in overtime. When it comes to football,
Thursday Night football Chargers and Vikings left tackle Joe alt

(33:07):
is questionable for LA, but he said earlier in the
week that he was going to return from that high
ankle sprain. While the Buccaneers have rolled out running back
Bucky Irving and wide receiver Chris Godwin for their Week
eight matchup in New Orleans. No Jayden Daniels for the
Commanders for their Week eight matchup that's Monday Night against
the Chiefs because of a hamstring strain. And in baseball,
the Giants officially hired Tony Vittello as their new manager.

(33:29):
He's leaving the University of Tennessee. Becomes the first college
football coach first college football, the first college baseball coach
to become an MLB manager with no previous pro baseball
coaching experience.

Speaker 7 (33:42):
Why not?

Speaker 1 (33:42):
Yeah, why not? You had to lose to the Dodgers anyway,
why not something fun? And I love in the valley.
You're going there a couple of times?

Speaker 3 (33:50):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (33:51):
Yeah, place, Thanks Menzie. Coming up next, a hot take
on everybody's favorite backup NFL quarterback? Okay, Jason and Mike.

Speaker 2 (34:04):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
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Speaker 1 (34:12):
Fox Sports Radio, The Jason Smith Show with my best
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(34:33):
brand new channel on YouTube again, just search Jason Smith
Show and subscribe. Mike and I love putting this content
out for you every single night. Well, how about a
hot take on everybody's favorite backup quarterback? After news today,
The Dylan Gabriel experience so far for the Browns is
going okay, He's one and two. They won last week,

(34:54):
I'll be at the Dolphins. Yes, hey, you can only
be who's on the schedule. And when you bludge in them,
you bludge in them.

Speaker 6 (35:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (35:00):
I mean, look in forty mile an hour wins, you
took advantage of the circumstance at home field advantage because really,
when you said everybody's favorite backup, yeah, until you told
me Dylan Gabriel's name, I was like, who the hell
is this? What are we doing here? So Gabriel, everything
is going all right, But what about because we know
we're going to see him at some point, we have
to what about Shadoor Sanders. Kevin Stefanski said today that

(35:23):
he's not getting any first team reps that backup quarterbacks
normally get. Meanwhile, earlier in the year, when Joe Flacco
was the starter, Dylan Gabriel got some first team reps,
and Stefanski explains it by saying, well, you know, look,
when Joe's a starter, he's got enough reps. We can
give it to the backup. Dylan needs all the reps
he can get right now, So no reps right now
for Shador Sanders. Meanwhile, sure, Mary kay Cabot, longtime Brown's insider, says, Hey,

(35:48):
he's looking better and better at practice, right, Shador Sanders.
If you looked at both of them during drills, you
would look like Shador is the better quarterback. But there's
more that goes into it. You have to be able
to recognize defenses and all the different things going on.
But Shador Sanders is playing well. So here's a hot
take for you. Right, because all this is all a
Chador Sanders still not seeing backup quarterbacks, here's a hot
take for you. What if everything is fine in Cleveland

(36:13):
with Shador Sanders. It's the middle getting to the end
of October. Okay, outside noise for Shador Sanders, ever, we've
talked about it, and the guy's been a huge topic
of conversation for the past couple of months. But what
if the outside noises are just stuff that we're harping
on media wise, and the things that went on have

(36:36):
been tamped down and put away and inside the walls
at Cleveland everything is good. Because it seems like everything
is okay right the way the season has gone so
far for the Browns. Just because his name is Shadoor Sanders,
you would always got to play. He's gotta play. Guy's
a fifth round pick. You don't hand things to a
fifth round pick Dylan Gables a third round pick they

(36:58):
moved on from Joe Flacco. This is the guy starting
right now. We drafted him earlier. We think he can
be the better quarterback, so he's gonna get the first
extended shot. You don't hand things to a fifth round guy.
You don't just say, okay, well, there's pressure want you
to start. You gotta earn it. So, yes, Shadoor Sanders
needs to continue to spend the rest part of this
season earning it before he gets his chance at some point,

(37:19):
because yeah, you're gonna want to see him on the
field at some point if you're the Browns. So when
you put a guy out there is when you really
learn about a quarterback. So yeah, but this is kind
of how it would go for any fifth round pick
that people want to see. Hey, you don't give it
to the guy. He's got to earn it and you
exhaust everything you can first before he sees the field.
Then all of a sudden, everything with Shadoor Sanders makes

(37:39):
sense and how they're going on and it maybe it's
not something crazy and not some sort of conspiracy theory
that he's a fifth round pick. He'll see the field
at some point. We're not even halfway through the season. Yeah,
I mean, look, it's the old rule of thumb with
any of these leagues. We get really excited about some
hot button topic until the games start playing, and then
we're like, oh, yeah, whatever that matter because this Shador

(38:01):
Sanders thing, like whatever, uh, it's he pops into a
starting role or he doesn't. This is really the first
I've thought of him in a while. It's like trying
to figure out what Dylan Gabriel is or isn't. And
when you win a football game, guess what it's like,
make it take it. I get the ball back right,
and you're not taking it out of my hands so

(38:21):
long as I'm performing reasonably. Now, does he eventually need
to hit a throw beyond twenty yards?

Speaker 4 (38:27):
Sure?

Speaker 1 (38:27):
Going into Sunday's game, he had three attempts beyond twenty
yards and then the wind didn't help that. So it's
not like you're gonna start winging it around. So eventually
you'd like to be able to stretch the field and
make that part of your game. However, you found something
in Judkins. Eventually you're looking for a little bit of
balance there, and you know your defense is pretty good.
But all of it was preseason, right, what's gonna happen?

(38:50):
Why is Joe flaccoh here? Why is Kenny Pickett here? Well,
they got rid of Kenny Pickett pretty fast. Okay, fine,
and then Joe Flacco was there. Did we think he
was going to Cincinnati? No, but he the he was
gonna get spun off somewhere at some point. And now
it's the natural order because I think if there was
enough noise there and really he was causing an issue, Yeah,
Kevin Stefanski would have nipped this in the bought a

(39:12):
long time again. And look, yeah, you have to give
him some leeway whatever Jimmy Haslam wants to do. And look,
we've heard certain things when it's become a story, but
most of that was during the preseason. But really it
it You know when you think, when you think, when
you back up for a second ago, Okay, the third
round pick is going to get the first shot out,
he's going to get an extended look, and the fifth
round pick you just half unless he's just terrible, and

(39:33):
maybe you don't that chance unless it's so blatantly obvious
that well, look, if Dylan game plays really well, he's
going to keep the job. But if not, because you're
gonna want to see you did draft Shador said right,
as much as you want to say, you know he
Shodor Sanders is. Yes, he is a curiosity, but you
did draft him, and you'd like to see him on
the field at some point. But even if it's December, okay,
so he plays three four games in December, that's kind

(39:55):
of what you want to see. He's still under control
for you for next year. Can still bring him back
as the backup wherever you want to do, you think?
But yeah, I think right now? What what if everything
was just fine in Cleveland and it's fine with you,
Dora Sanders, and he's getting better, and him and Gabriels
a quarterback now and we'll see shoe door Sanders in
a month and a half. But it was the outside
world wanting the microwave response to things. I want it now, Well,

(40:17):
what if it's not ready? What if I got to
put it in for another minute? Still, you know, frozen
in the center, it's not there. Your frozen dinner might
actually take the full five minutes to defraud. I want
it now, that's like my wife, which he was just
warm up the pizza in the oven. No, it takes
like six minutes. Like I have the pizza. That made
it better that way, it doesn't matter. But I could

(40:37):
be eating the pizza in thirty seconds. See and mo,
I do want that. It's think you'd flash fry at
Buffalo in forty seconds. I want it now. Exit out
out of Fresca, Exit swollen dome coming up next week.
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