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October 1, 2024 38 mins

Jason Smith and Mike Harmon debate if Tua Tagovailoa is the real NFL MVP. Jason tells you the biggest problem that is plaguing the Jets right now. And we remember an absolute legend!

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:23):
You're listening to Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 1 (00:28):
Playas Francisco Lindor a Home under the ninth inning, It's
one of the greatest days of my sports life.

Speaker 3 (00:34):
I don't try to claim that I don't care.

Speaker 4 (00:37):
Camera would show that your face says something different.

Speaker 3 (00:41):
I don't.

Speaker 1 (00:41):
Every one of those highlights we really don't care. I
really don't. The other is I look, we don't script
the show. I mean, I didn't get a copy of it.
This is not one of many other shows in radio
or television, so I don't necessarily know where you're gonna go,
where you gonna drag it out. But I was telling
a story, so I don't care. Okay, that's what I
was gonna say. I don't care. I was gonna say
I don't care.

Speaker 3 (01:01):
That's all right, but it's okay.

Speaker 2 (01:03):
It's okay.

Speaker 1 (01:03):
We got you know, we we we we double teamed it.
It was all good. We got it, no doubt. We
got the turnover. We got turnover. Well, you know you
said Tommy Lee, right, Tommy Lee Jones. Oh I thought
he only acted with Pamela Anderson. No, no, that boy,
that would that would be a much different video. It
was Tommy Lee. Yeah, much different, much different. Yeah yeah, no, no,
different different, completely different. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:23):
Yeah, No, I don't care. I don't I don't care.
You're a liar.

Speaker 1 (01:27):
I don't get a liar because it's so Vexican. It
may have been pushed down a little bit. No, you
may be suppressing it, but it's there. That lost to
the Broncos. No, no, no, I just keep saying that
that lost to the Broncos and that backwards throwing bow
niche you know how great he is.

Speaker 3 (01:44):
No, no, that's fine. Everybody tell by the way that
that touchdown shouldn't have counted. But yeah, no, they thought
that was.

Speaker 1 (01:50):
A pretty whoa did he come down with it and bounce?
But it happened. It's okay, uh, I will you know,
I will say this.

Speaker 3 (01:57):
For it straight.

Speaker 1 (01:58):
A big take off, a big takeaway, from from Monday
Night Football. Well guess what and by the way, uh,
you know, just about the game today and why the
Mets and the Braves were such a big deal. The
Mets win the game of the year in Major League Baseball.
I don't think you're gonna get a debate from anybody
on that. They win game one of the doubleheader to
make the playoffs and Landor hits a home run with
two outs.

Speaker 3 (02:18):
In the ninth inning.

Speaker 1 (02:19):
It's it's something different about baseball and why I was
just it was so incredibly exciting, and I'm doing backflips
and the text goo back and forth, and it was
just that kind of special moment. I tell you last
hour on the show, I said, listen, I don't get
days like this, right then, maybe I get one or
two days every ten years like this with my teams.
But there's something about baseball compared to other sports, Like

(02:42):
if it was if it was the Jets, and football
would have been a lot of yeah Blakeny blankety blank,
and let's blake Andy Blakeny blank and blank blank blank
blank blank. Different with the Knicks it would have been yeah,
Blakey Blakeny blank and the Knicks and Blake, Blake, Blank Black.
But there's something about about when it happens in baseball
and why it's such a big deal and why suddenly
people who didn't have a dog in the fight between

(03:03):
the Mets and the Braves today watch this game and
they understand how incredible it was. This is a baseball
game that people watch. This is this is unreal. Much
happening right now.

Speaker 3 (03:11):
Correctivity was lost.

Speaker 1 (03:12):
There's times, but it doesn't matter because you've got see
Lindor hit a home run. Is that There's there's something
about baseball that when you see this happen, no matter
how old you are, whether you're twenty five, thirty five,
forty five, fifty, whatever it is, you go back to
being a kid. You celebrate baseball like you did when
you were a kid. And I don't know why, but

(03:34):
that's just the way it goes. Celebrating something like this
brings you back to that moment when you first fell
in love with baseball or sports or whatever game it was.
Football and basketball are more physical, it's more it's more
the emotional outlet of because the games are more physical,
but baseball is more Hey, when I was a kid.
It kind of takes me back to that, and then

(03:55):
Lindor hits that home run and I'm flying around and
I'm fisting, and I'm fifteen again, and I'm I'm fifteen
in my basement watching Game six of the World Series
with the Mets and the Red Sox, going, I can't
believe we're gonna lose this. I mean that that's kind
of what it is. That's what baseball does that the
other sports don't do. It takes you back to when
you were a kid. And and there's there are probably

(04:16):
eighty year old men that are sitting around going, oh
my god, that's just golling dor and they're fist pumping
in there, you know, breathing, taking oxygen whatever it was,
Oh my god, like that.

Speaker 3 (04:25):
That's that's what it was.

Speaker 1 (04:26):
That, that's what the reaction is like in moments like that,
and it just it takes over.

Speaker 3 (04:31):
And that's what makes baseball so different.

Speaker 4 (04:32):
Yeah, to be fair, you do that in Game sixty
two of the regular season. I mean we watch you
live and die with each pitch and failed efforts by
your closing. Yeah the greatness, Well he did didn't then
he didn't.

Speaker 3 (04:49):
Oh no, no, Mets didn't fail today.

Speaker 1 (04:50):
Yeah, I was I was ready to leave DAZ in Atlanta,
but then the ninth thing happened.

Speaker 4 (04:55):
Now DZ is eighth inning, Like that was one I
wish could have been on camera, like we all forget,
Like as we get to the playoffs, we'll have them
in primetime.

Speaker 1 (05:03):
You and I'll come on air as some of those
games are ending, others beginning. Of course, all of that stuff,
But that eighth inning, I mean, that would have been
if you were ever going to do an IG live.
I mean, you could have out done that other guy
who I will not name.

Speaker 3 (05:17):
Oh sure, I might have been able to. It might
have been.

Speaker 1 (05:20):
It might have been even more profanity if that was
the case, because first of all, not covering third, I'm
not covering first. I mean, come on, man, how do
you not cover I mean, I don't know. If we
would have got him, We've got we would have got
colled it.

Speaker 4 (05:32):
But come on, it's just the principal of not even
making a move to first base. Like that's that's the thing, right,
Go back to your days, you know, coaching softball or
playing as kids and growing up like it was those
fundamental things where unless you were the manager's kid or
you were the absolute superstar. That's how you got your

(05:54):
ass planning on a bench, just f plays like that, right,
not getting out of the box on it when you
hit the ball and watching it, or just giving up
on I popped up.

Speaker 3 (06:05):
No, all of those things. But like this was he
didn't even move.

Speaker 1 (06:08):
Towards first base and then that inning be unravels as
it did. But your point about baseball is very much this,
and you know you get that little kid in you
in the moment because your expectation, like football, I think
we expect greatness on every play. Basketball, Yeah, there's a
ton of points scored, unless it's the eighties and nineties basketball,

(06:31):
then you were praying for a bucket now and again.

Speaker 3 (06:33):
But the way.

Speaker 1 (06:34):
Basketball goes possession with possession, see me when we hit
the two minute warning and we'll go from there. But baseball,
like you're expected to fail as often as you do,
especially once the closure comes in, like, oh he's gonna
nail this down.

Speaker 3 (06:46):
Yeah, ball is about failure. It's been about failure.

Speaker 4 (06:50):
Or that game today, first seven innings, Man, that wasn't much,
all right, I mean it's pretty basic. All right, Well,
are they gonna go down swinging or we're looking at
a game too, and then that eighth inning conga line
begins and all of a sudden, you're invested. We started
texting back and forth. I found as many of the
great memes and gifts as we possibly could, and you

(07:13):
get into it for better or for worse, right knowing
what it was going to become. Because certainly on Twitter,
and I appreciate you all that out there at Swollendo, Matt,
how about a Fresca.

Speaker 3 (07:22):
You certainly let me know what my day was going
to be like.

Speaker 5 (07:25):
As soon as either of those things, right, the celebratory
he blew it, and you writing I hate base baseball.

Speaker 1 (07:32):
But then I tweeted out I love baseball because I
love baseball.

Speaker 4 (07:35):
You loved it again, he did. He was ready to
forsake all of them.

Speaker 1 (07:44):
Exit out about a Fresca, Exit swollen Dome, the Jason
smithsher with Mike Carmon live from the TIREC dot Com Studios.
We'll have more baseball on the way. Really an unbelievable
day in baseball. But as we get to the NFL,
looks like the Lions are going to walk away with
a win. Here a stop the Seahawks on downs on
fourth down, a pass to Tyler Lockett and the end

(08:06):
zone is thrown out of the end zone. So it
looks like the Seahawks gonna suffer their first loss of
the season. We'll have more in this game coming up
in a few minutes. But we watch the other game,
and we watch it because we had to. You didn't watch,
because why would you. The Titans beat the Dolphins in
one of the most unexciting games in the history of
the league, thirty one to twelve. Right, the Titans saw

(08:26):
a quarterback Will Levis get hurt early in this game.
They came in and ran the football pretty well and
the Dolphins could do absolutely nothing, and the Titans get
their first w the season. They beat the Dolphins thirty
one to twelve, And yes, there's gonna be a lot
of is a season over for the Dolphins most likely?

Speaker 3 (08:43):
Do we expect this to happen? No, we did not.

Speaker 1 (08:45):
But let me throw this out there because this is
this is makes a lot more sense than I would say,
sent you thing this.

Speaker 3 (08:54):
It makes it.

Speaker 1 (08:54):
It makes a lot of sense, right is that to
a tongue of I Looa gets paid by the Dolphins
and he has his detractors. The Dolphins offense last year
was fantastic. He's got his detractors. He can't throw the
ball deep, he can't throw the ball to a spot
when he when he's forced to get out of uh
his element. He doesn't have a clean pocket. All these things,

(09:16):
ah tous shouldn't have gotten the money too is overrated.
Uh to a tongue of iloa might be the NFL
mv BO. Look at you, right, because you look at
what this offense is and how abysmal it has been
without him, Because what do you have on this team?
You have a lot of weapons, right, you got you got,

(09:36):
you got a chen and you're talking about throwing the
ball up to Tyreek.

Speaker 3 (09:40):
Hill and Jalen Waddle.

Speaker 1 (09:42):
You got playmakers, man, you got playmakers on this team.
And still look what happens Tyler Huntley tonight ninety six
yards passing? All right, they couldn't get anything on track.
How do you not get untracked when when you have
these kinds of weapons? Right, This Miami offense middle of
last year was unstoppable, and how this has fallen in
the last twelve games is crazy. Like, yes, they lose

(10:05):
the playoff game last year to the Chiefs. Okay, for
Miami to go on the road and play in that
unbelievable wasn't the third coldest game ever? Yeah, I get
that the Miami was going to lose that game, right.
Warm Weather teams are always going to have trouble, so
that's always going to be a thing. But now it's
almost like the Dolphins are a teardown because you don't
know what's gonna happen with tongue Iloa if he does
come back, what is it and the way they have

(10:27):
fallen so fast. But with Tua, this is still a
team that wins a bunch of games. This is still
a guy that throws over four thousand yards and thirty
five touchdowns. So when this whole oh two is this two?

Speaker 3 (10:37):
Is that?

Speaker 1 (10:38):
Look how the offense hums with Tua at quarterback, how
dangerous it is, how fast they or how fast they play.
Where he gets the ball out. Just because he can't
throw the football far, it doesn't have a great It
doesn't mean he can't move the offense. Get the ball downfield,
throw to a spot, no where he's got to go,
knows where Tyreek Kill is going to be.

Speaker 3 (10:55):
And Tyree Kill will run across the field for the ball.

Speaker 1 (10:58):
There's a lot to be said that maybe two of
the mostable quarterback in the NFL, because wow, you look
at what this offense looks like without him, it is
It is a tough watch man. This was a tough wach.
I mean my eyes and watching two games, I know
at least one of my eyes told my brain, no,
do not watch this watching him up above, because we
had two TVs watch this, so we Detroit on both

(11:19):
the high either one watch this Seattle, Detroit, don't watch
this one, especially after what you watched yesterday.

Speaker 5 (11:23):
You know bad again that was yesterday, Yeah, you know
bad when you're still there, Yeah, that's all right. He's
trying to get your you know.

Speaker 1 (11:29):
Lindor hit a two run homer today to win the
game for the Mets and New York.

Speaker 5 (11:33):
It's an insanity going crazy anyway, what are you Vin
Scully doing? What a hit by Francis Lindor. All right,
So a couple of important things. Tony Pollard on the
fourth down call the end of the game, twenty four
seconds left, he got you your anytime touchdown and he
took the game over.

Speaker 4 (11:51):
The total it was thirty six and a half. So
Tony Pollard make sure to send in some flowers. But
the watch watch of that game and watching the Dolphins.
They're now averaging eleven and a quarter points a game. Yeah,
in the first four weeks of the season, Jalen Waddell
had four catches thirty six yards long of eighteen. All right,
so you can do the math on the other three

(12:11):
Tyreek Hill four catches twenty three yards with a long
of seventeen. No ability to push the ball downfield means
eight chan is seeing the extra man in the box
because they know they can't get the ball downfield. To
those weapons and form McDaniel, everything was about timing and

(12:31):
rhythm and playing on you know, at the sticks and
not getting behind behind the sticks as they say, And
now you've got everything that's just a disaster.

Speaker 3 (12:41):
Now. Tennessee's defense, I.

Speaker 1 (12:43):
Would have argued coming into the game had been better
than perhaps maybe they were portrayed, but betrayed multiple times
by the Will Levis turnovers. In this game, he goes
down early with the injury, and you have a pretty
nice game. Mason Rude comes in, doesn't have to do much,
just guide the ship in because they run for one

(13:04):
hundred and forty two yards forty attempts. Grind clock, get
out of there, because you know the opposing offense is
a disaster. Mason Rudolph apparently the latest quarterback who was inevitable.

Speaker 4 (13:14):
Inevitable Mason Rudolf is. I mean, he had a good
run last year. But you have this opportunity, you know,
in theory for the Dolphins, not than anything's going to
be a get right game, but at least one that
you should be able to salvage, and they were just
blown out from pillar to post. You got nothing. You know,
you finished with one hundred and six yards rushing on
thirty attempts.

Speaker 3 (13:33):
That's great.

Speaker 4 (13:34):
Devon a Chen he had fifteen yards. Huntley was your
biggest threat, running for his life. He had forty yards
and a touchdown. So, yeah, you've got problems. Most Church's
not ready to come back yet. We don't know when
we see Tua placed on the injured reserves, so how
long he's actually out We wait and see. But you're

(13:55):
in a difficult spot with a couple of huge defenses
coming up from Mike McDaniel.

Speaker 5 (14:00):
I don't know where you pull a rabbit out of
your hat. I mean, where are you going to find
a quarterback to come in because you saw what Green
Bay was able to do when Jordan Love got hurt.
Here's our offense, here's our machine. Hey, Malik Willis, we
just signed you tada.

Speaker 1 (14:13):
Exit out about a Fresca exit swollen Dome. Just think
about that, maybe a little bit of tuito if I
looap might be the most valuable player in the NFL.
Exit out about a Fresca exit Swallen Dome. The Jason
Smith Show with my best friend Mike Harmon. Some craziness
going on right now in my art night in Miami.
In Detroit, where it looked like the game was going

(14:34):
to be over right, we told you Gino. Smith got
stopped on fourth down. Looked like it was going to
be an easy last couple of minutes here for the
Detroit Lions. Oh no, oh no, The Seahawks get a
safety because Jared Goff is sacked in the end zone.
Now they have the ball back with a couple minutes
left to go and a chance to get its score
and maybe an onsidekick. So hey, wait a minute, things

(14:57):
they're still fun.

Speaker 3 (14:59):
I've already declared the on side kick, so we'll.

Speaker 1 (15:01):
Have more on that coming up next as well as
the real thing to worry about when it comes to
Aaron Rodgers and the Jets and Robert Sala and all
this best I'll tell you the biggest thing. Look, trust me,
Jets fan, I'll tell you the biggest thing that I'm
worried about when it comes to the Jets, and it's
all about Aaron Rodgers. That's next right here, Jason and Mike.
You are listening to Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 2 (15:22):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
pm Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.

Speaker 1 (15:33):
Fox Sports Radio. The Jason Smith Show with my best
friend Mike Harmon. Well, it is now over in Detroit.
The Lions hand the Seahawks their first loss of the year.
Geno Smith is picked off in the end zone. Lines
just kneeled on the ball to kill the clock. Detroit
wins it forty two to twenty nine. And while it

(15:55):
was a record setting day for Gino Smith, who through
for three ninety five, let me just give before we
get into Aaron Rodgers and the Jets, let me give
you Jared Goff stats from tonight. Okay, Jared Goff, and
I don't know how it's not a perfect quarterback rating.
But Jared Goff tonight eighteen out of eighteen for two
hundred and ninety two yards and two touchdowns. Yeah, that's

(16:18):
Jared Goff's line. He did not throw an incomplete pass tonight.
I don't know what the record is for most completed,
because God, you can have a perfect quarterback rating in
the game by throwing in complete passes.

Speaker 5 (16:30):
I witnessed one of the greatest ones you did. Yeah,
Philip Rivers was like twenty eight of twenty eight or something.

Speaker 3 (16:35):
Oh that many? Like that many? Yeah, twenty five out
of twenty five.

Speaker 1 (16:38):
Okay, so Philip Rivers twenty five to twenty five, he's
right there, if not somebody else, But yeah, so Jared
Goff eighteen out of eighteen for two ninety two and
two touchdowns. Quarterback rating of one fifty five point eight. Really, Like,
it's not really, it's not like, Hey, eighteen out of
eighteen for one hundred and fifty seven yards in a
score No, two hundred ninety two yards and two touchdo

(16:59):
how is that?

Speaker 6 (16:59):
Night?

Speaker 3 (16:59):
I'll understand. I don't understand how that's not a perfect quarterback.
I think he lost points for U for what taking sex?

Speaker 2 (17:05):
He got that? Really?

Speaker 3 (17:07):
Really?

Speaker 1 (17:07):
Oh it's his fault. Really, that's your fault. Like really,
he's a dope. Come on, man, it's a dopey metric
because you notice one of our competitors went out of
their way to create their own.

Speaker 3 (17:18):
Well, I mean quack.

Speaker 1 (17:21):
Every time every time ESPN does it, I go, I
have no idea what that means. I mean that that's
how much disinterest I have in a new quarterback. Like,
I don't even know what that means. I know, what
does it mean when ESPN says our quarterbating is sixty
two point eight? I don't know is that good? I
don't even pay attention. It's spent so much with the
others going okay, eighty used to be average, now it's bad,
ninety is somewhat average, one hundred is good. You know

(17:43):
what Now, No, we're coming up with our own quote.
Oh okay, oh that's good. Thanks appreciate that.

Speaker 4 (17:47):
I mean, you're not helping me here exactly, but yeah,
I'm trying to look up this.

Speaker 5 (17:51):
The two games span is Ryan Tannehill at twenty five
I believe.

Speaker 1 (17:56):
So over two games he had the most completed passes
without out an incompletion, so twenty five by Ryan Tannehill,
twenty five out of twenty five.

Speaker 5 (18:08):
It's funny. We were just talking about Ryan Tannehi bringing
him back. He's gonna come bring him back, and Rivers
had had a very similar game. It's thirty eight in
a row, but it's not the record because you know,
no imber to a game.

Speaker 3 (18:18):
I'll totally getting it. Thirty eight in a row.

Speaker 1 (18:21):
Do you think Philip Rivers has thirty eight kids? I
think that's a year at this yeh yeah, okay, yeah,
I don't know how much out a perfect quarterback rating.

Speaker 3 (18:29):
I mean real, I mean really, what what did he do?

Speaker 5 (18:30):
Because he got so that's why they're not counting it.
Look at that said because he won twenty eight for
twenty nine that game. Oh yeah, at one point he
was twenty eight for twenty eight. Yeah, I remember, because
they sent that uniform the Canton.

Speaker 1 (18:42):
Shouldn't have thrown that one pass, shouldn't have clocked it,
shouldn't have you shut his mouth?

Speaker 2 (18:47):
How about that should have taken it in the eight.

Speaker 3 (18:52):
Oh terrible.

Speaker 5 (18:53):
That was a crazy game against the Cardinals. I remember
it clearly. I was punching Steve the Seger. Wow, Steve
de Segre getting put.

Speaker 3 (19:02):
Yeah, I can do that.

Speaker 1 (19:05):
I can see Frostburg doing. Then we can sit for
like three hours and answer questions oh yeah about not
doing that, but not work. I think out a football game,
if two co workers, if something happens, they're allowed to
hit it.

Speaker 7 (19:17):
You're allowed to I think he walked in and pushed me, Mike.
When he got here, he did. He came up and
checked me. So do you want to go? You want
to go? He was like, I don't know where we're going.
I'm trying to do a show. That's what the Mets
does doing well.

Speaker 4 (19:31):
I mean part of you is like I've intrigued at
where you're suggesting we can go. I mean, were going
to a bar, going to you know, some kind of
place of ill repute?

Speaker 3 (19:40):
Are we going across? What do we do? Are we
just going for Big Max? I don't know. I've been
hyped all day.

Speaker 1 (19:47):
I had the best experience watching the second Mets Braves
game with absolutely zero stress.

Speaker 3 (19:51):
I'm laying on my catch, I got my feet, I'm like,
this is great.

Speaker 1 (19:54):
You know how much stress second game? I'm gonna doze
and watch fall asleep. I mean this is great.

Speaker 3 (19:59):
Because I I knew you were giving a no show effort.

Speaker 1 (20:01):
I don't really care because if we win, great, we
knocked the Braves out of the playoffs, which would be awesome.

Speaker 3 (20:06):
But if not, what do I care.

Speaker 1 (20:07):
We have a lineup out there where they're all on
the plane already, It doesn't matter.

Speaker 3 (20:11):
I just laid back drinking a soda. I was, you're
gonna taste Bernie on that slide. Maybe I will, but
I'm not doing that. But I get your But I
get what you mean. No, but I get what you mean.

Speaker 2 (20:22):
Haven't played back.

Speaker 3 (20:23):
Maybe maybe the Brewers will.

Speaker 1 (20:24):
I get that, But I'll worry about that tomorrow. Man
going to I'll worry about tomorrow.

Speaker 4 (20:28):
But here's the question about that tomorrow if they legitimately
put guys on planes already, like it was an All
Star game where the second game Sevenina, we're gonna put
you on a plane to Milwaukee tonight.

Speaker 1 (20:39):
No, I don't look, it's not like you need. There
was such a big deal where hey we're leaving it's late.

Speaker 6 (20:44):
No.

Speaker 1 (20:44):
I mean for the second game, the Mets were gonna
be done by eight o'clock at night, and you're flying
in Milwaukee. It's only a couple hours. Hey, we're flying aside.
It's a couple of hundred bucks hotel.

Speaker 3 (20:55):
I would you just sailing door? You see him waving
goodbye everybody, all right.

Speaker 1 (20:59):
Seeing he's wearing a Milwaukee yet, seeing Milwaukee's got a pennant.
See you guys, all right, I have my big home run.
I'll see you in a couple see a couple of hours,
see when you get here.

Speaker 3 (21:08):
Giddy little school boy, so.

Speaker 1 (21:10):
I'd be really, I don't know how Jared Goff didnight.
He caught a touchdown?

Speaker 4 (21:13):
He did no, No, I'm on Ross Saint Brown. I
mean he caught one, or he threw one, and he
caught one, So I double up for you.

Speaker 3 (21:21):
That's why.

Speaker 1 (21:21):
Maybe that's why not a perfect quarterback rating, because oh
he somebody else threw a touchdown. It's not as fake night.
H Yeah, just don't know you had the big streaking touchdown.
Jamison Williams only two catches, but he goes for eighty
and the score. He had two hundred and ninety nine
yards receiving overall. So I mean, yeah, nice spreading the

(21:44):
ball around, got run game early.

Speaker 3 (21:47):
It's like the people voting.

Speaker 1 (21:48):
It's like an MVP where I'm gonna vote forgive this
person a first place MVP voted in case just they
don't deserve it. I just don't like Jared Goff. I'm
gonna make sure he's not get a perfect quarterback rating
game really well. I mean, I think it's just math.

Speaker 5 (22:01):
But I don't know the algorithm. I'm not gonna lie.
I don't know what formula is.

Speaker 3 (22:05):
Imember Pennington.

Speaker 1 (22:06):
Chad Pennington had a perfect quarterback rating for the Jets
in a game they lost, right, because that's how it goes.

Speaker 3 (22:11):
But he was like twenty out of twenty.

Speaker 1 (22:13):
Four and he threw for like three hundred yards and
four touchdowns, Like he threw four incomplete passes and he
still had a perfect quarterback rating. Jared Goff doesn't doesn't
let one hit the ground. Throws here, two touchdowns, almost
three hundred yards. Not a perfect quarterback rating. I don't understand.

Speaker 5 (22:25):
Yeah, zero to one hundred and fifty eight point three
as we know. Uh, just yeah, I don't. I don't
know there it is the four separate separate calculation.

Speaker 3 (22:35):
You can do this. Oh that looks like a lot
of math, man, Yeah, you got.

Speaker 4 (22:39):
You got the number of passing attempts, a number of
completion passing yards, touchdown passes, interceptions. Just seems to me
we we should still get to the one fifty eight point.

Speaker 3 (22:50):
Which you know, you know who didn't throw a touchdown yesterday.
It doesn't matter. It was Aaron Rodgers. All right, all right,
you want to do this, Let's do this.

Speaker 1 (22:57):
You gotta do this segment. If you're gonna do it,
you gotta work with the over your head all of it.
And I got to slide down like him at the end.

Speaker 4 (23:03):
Do you think himself like a famous Mets fan with me?
What was that guy doing in front of him? Look
that's a good question. Look, look, look, look I like it.
Look I did the Chris Brewers start. I like Aaron Rodgers.

Speaker 1 (23:14):
I don't love him, but I like all the controversy
coming off the Jets horrendous loss to the to the
Broncos yesterday.

Speaker 3 (23:23):
I get it.

Speaker 1 (23:25):
The cadence issue that seems to be there between Robert
sala and Aaron Rodgers. Where the Jets had thirteen penalties
yesterday was embarrassing, seven pre snat penalties, a lot of
them for false starts, and Robert Salas said, well, we
had problems with the cadence. Aaron Rodgers said after the game,
I don't think cadence was an issue. You hadn't been
an issue all year long. We got to clean stuff up.

(23:46):
And all we heard today, you heard it many times
from many different people, was about all the relationship between
Aaron Rodgers and Robert Sala And it's Robert Sala's fault
why they're losing, and this is awful for the Jets.
And I gotta tell you, trust me when I tell
you about the Jets. Everybody's missing the point. Nobody knows
what they're talking about. When they're saying, oh, it's Sala's fun,
it says I told you Robert Sala is a bad
head coach. First, do you really think he has anything

(24:07):
to do with the offense. Do you think he's had
anything to do with the offense other than hey, go
do something. He's got zero to do with the offense, Right.

Speaker 4 (24:14):
Pops in gives an emotional speech, it brushes his teeth
and moves on.

Speaker 1 (24:18):
It's Roger, it's Rogers and Hackett, and it's mainly Rogers. Right,
So to say that, oh, yes, Robert Sala is a
bad head, coach and Aaron Rodgers. The thing about him
is that he wants to keep He's going to keep
everybody employed if they win. Right, They're asking him to
cover up all the ills. I told you for a
long time. Salah's a bad head coach, right, He's in
over his head. He's a great defensive coordinator, but he's

(24:39):
a bad head coach, right, And so so no, you
can't blame Robert Salad. This is Look, the offense was terrible.
The main takeaway from this, and I'll tell you exactly
what it is, is that as good as I felt
last Thursday, I felt absolutely awful yesterday because I'm now
walking away from that game because that's a big reality check.

(24:59):
And I wonder now, with four games of this to see,
I wonder how effective Aaron Rodgers can still throw the
football right, Because there's a couple of throws he made
against the Broncos and only Aaron Rodgers man like running
to his right, turning around, throwing to his left and
hitting a guy in strider. And he can still do that.
But Rogers for four games. Here's a report caught on him.

(25:21):
He's been skittish a lot when he throws the football.
He throws the football early. Right, there's tons of plays
where it's just a couple of steps I'm throwing the ball.
Some of it is well. The Jets offensive line is
still trying to figure things out when when the other
teams blitz, they have a problem. But Rogers is very
skittish in the pocket. When he got sacked the next
to last drive yesterday, he came back for the Jets'

(25:43):
final drive, different quarterback through three balls before receivers even
turned around. They had no chance that final drive because
he's throwing footballs before his receivers turn around, and he
looks and gets mad at the receivers a dea. It's like,
how many they're running that look feel like they're running
their patterns and you're throwing the ball early because you
just got crunched and limped off the field the last

(26:04):
possession you have. Rogers is skittish. He has never been
someone that really always stepped fully into his throws because
of the power of his arm and the way he
uses and turns his hips. But watching him now, he
is really a guy that throws off his back foot
a lot, and he has relied on the accuracy of
his arm to put the ball where he wants to.
But I don't know that he can throw the ball

(26:25):
deep anymore, don't.

Speaker 3 (26:26):
I mean?

Speaker 1 (26:27):
And anytime it's not a play where he's got a
perfect pocket, it's a couple of seconds and he throws it,
or he throws it off his back foot, and he
doesn't have the arm strength he used to. That's absolute
where maybe he got away with it in Green Bay
the last few years because his arm was still really strong.
It's just not there anymore. And when I watch him throw,
I say, this throw is twenty yards. He struggles with

(26:49):
everything more than twenty yards downfield. And if that's not
part of his arsenal, where the downfield ball was always
a big part of Aaron Rodgers arsenal was always he
was like one of those animals where they say eyes
in front, there for the hunt, always looking downfield. He
was never a guy that wanted to dump it off
to his running backs. He was always saying, I want
chunk yardage. Now a third of his passes go to
the running backs, and it's very predictable. And that's why

(27:11):
the Broncos were able to win the game yesterday because
you can tell when he can't throw the football really far,
and you don't have a lot of time. This is
what happens. He's skittish. He throws the ball early a
lot like Brady would do, and Brady would get hit
a bunch of times in games. He would throw the
ball early and low, and that would happen to him.
That's what's going on with Rogers right now.

Speaker 3 (27:30):
Skittish.

Speaker 1 (27:30):
He's throwing the ball early, and I don't think he
has the arm strength anymore to throw the ball downfield.

Speaker 3 (27:35):
Which that's the real problem. All this other stuff is cosmetic.
That's the real that's all bad.

Speaker 4 (27:39):
And Garrett Wilson may not be a true number one,
so all of that together becomes a big problem.

Speaker 3 (27:44):
There's lots of time.

Speaker 5 (27:44):
Tell me, I'm I'm not hitting on that too, because
the game in separation.

Speaker 1 (27:50):
Yeah no, they also have to try to find different
ways to get him the ball. But because it seems
like it's a pretty vanilla type offense right now. But
I mean, if if they would find a way to
be able to get the ball down field, things could
be a little bit different. I mean, if Garrett Wilson
had I just I just don't know if he can
get open a lot five yards pass the line of scrimmage.

Speaker 3 (28:07):
He might need a little bit more room for separation.

Speaker 1 (28:10):
I'm telling you that's the real the stuff with with
Sala and Rogers or that's cosmetic.

Speaker 6 (28:14):
Man.

Speaker 3 (28:14):
We've seen this before.

Speaker 1 (28:16):
We've seen Rogers be kind of a odds with his
head coach and he still wins MVPs. But the real
issue is physically, I don't know where he's at mentally
and physically. That's a big thing. And that that's why yeah,
I say yes, I go oh, I have to cut
back and everything I thought about the Jets this year
because Ers is you.

Speaker 5 (28:33):
Know who wins that game for the Jets? Same Sam
Donold Sam Sam Sam Sam. This Sunday morning, I can't
wait for the text exchanges as that game kicks off
in London.

Speaker 3 (28:45):
Exit Loresca, Exit Swollen Stop.

Speaker 1 (28:49):
Jason Spent Mike Harmon live from the TIREC dot Com studios.

Speaker 3 (28:52):
Time now to find out what's trending in the wide
world of sports.

Speaker 1 (28:55):
For Update anchor Extraordinaire Francisco Lindor, Wow, what do you
got for us?

Speaker 3 (29:01):
Franky? I have a deep fly to right and there
it goes. It's insanity.

Speaker 8 (29:05):
In the update, Studio NFL wins for Tennessee and Detroit tonight,
and by the way, in that Lions win a near
perfect passer rating for Jared Goff. There was a perfect
passer rating this year a couple of weeks ago in
the NFL with Kyler Murray with Arizona. The only guess
I have on why the formula doesn't benefit GoF as
to a perfect passer.

Speaker 3 (29:26):
Rating goes with Lions nocause, well, that's.

Speaker 8 (29:28):
A good one otherwise on most nights and most years
for that matter. But no, it's because he only had
two touchdown passes. Touchdowns per attempts is part of the formula.
In the last thirty years, there's only one time that
a guy's had a perfect passer rating and.

Speaker 3 (29:44):
Not had three touchdown passes.

Speaker 8 (29:46):
So Kyler Murray also had about twenty attempts a couple
of weeks ago, but three touchdown passes.

Speaker 3 (29:51):
It's an effectiveness.

Speaker 8 (29:52):
So when you have ten drives like golfs and two
touchdown passes, they die you a couple of points on
the rating.

Speaker 4 (29:58):
But never mind that they ran it in three times
and then he had a touchdown catch.

Speaker 3 (30:02):
But that's nothing to do with the passer rating. If
you have a bankruptcy on your credit, they ding you
a little bit on your rate. That's essentially what it is.

Speaker 8 (30:10):
By the way, the Ryan Tannehill record was twenty five
straight completions during a game at some point. Philip rivers record.
He started the game twenty five for twenty five and
wound up twenty eight of twenty nine.

Speaker 3 (30:22):
In a game against the Cardinals a few years back.

Speaker 8 (30:25):
Tonight, it was Jared Goff eighteen for eighteen, two hundred
and ninety two yards, two touchdown passes and a TD
catch forty two to twenty nine. The Lions beat Seattle
each team three and one.

Speaker 3 (30:37):
Now. By the way, Lions tight end.

Speaker 8 (30:39):
Sam Laporta had practiced fully after the sprayed ankle, had
four receptions fifty three yards.

Speaker 3 (30:44):
Tonight.

Speaker 8 (30:45):
Seattle running back Kenneth Walker was playing after the oblique injury.
He had three touchdown runs. Walker twelve carries eighty yards. Earlier,
the Tennessee Titans, who were zero and three, finished up
a victory at Miami thirty one to twelve, as Devon
h had ten carries just fifteen yards rushing in the loss.

Speaker 3 (31:03):
Quarterback Tyler Huntley.

Speaker 8 (31:04):
Was the QB for Miami tonight one touchdown, run, one fumble,
one safety. He had only ninety six yards passing Miami
as a team ninety eight yards in penalties ten penalties
for them. Brown's running back Nick Chubb will practice Wednesday
for the first time since his knee injuries a year ago.
Falcons running back b John Robinson, with a bad hamstring,

(31:25):
was limited in today's practice estimation. At Atlanta, linebacker Troy Anderson,
after a great game yesterday, did not practice due to
his knee injury. Basketball Hall of Famer de Kembe Mtumbo
died of brain cancer. He was fifty eight. Cincinnati Red's
legend Pete Rose died at age eighty three, passed away
today at his home in Las Vegas. And two games

(31:45):
to end the regular season in Major League Baseball, a
makeup doubleheader in Atlanta after last week's storm. The Mets
took the opener eight seven on a two run homer
top of the night by Francisco Lindor. The Mets are
into playoff birth they'll play at Milwaukee tomorrow. Atlanta is
now wait after a three nothing went over the Mets
in the nightcap tomorrow night, the Braves started best of
three in San Diego, Arizona was eliminated today by the

(32:09):
Way Braves. Pitcher Chris Sale was scratched from the game
to start due to backspasms and is likely out this week.
He went eighteen and three this year. Back to you,
Thank you, Steve O.

Speaker 1 (32:18):
The Jason Smith Show with My best friend Mike Carmen
live from the Tirak.

Speaker 3 (32:22):
Dot Com studios.

Speaker 1 (32:24):
Coming up next, well, we talked about the complicated legacy
of Pete Rose. We lost Tod at the age of
eighty three. Coming up next, we remember an absolute legend
to Kenbe Mtumbo, who passed away today at the age
of fifty eight. The underlying images. I'll tell you the
one thing I think of more than anything when I
think of my Tumbo. That's coming up next right here,
Jason and Mike Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 6 (32:46):
Illo. Everyone, if you get the email ex sides from
the Timm and Mutumbo, do no answer. My email was
hot on this crazy pit for I don't know what.

Speaker 2 (32:58):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
pm Pacific, Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 1 (33:07):
The Jason Smith Show with My best friend Mike Harmon Hey,
gron Rich Russ, So how good is he?

Speaker 3 (33:13):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (33:13):
We lost an absolute legend. Earlier today, probably woke up
and saw the news to Kembe Mtumbo, former NBA superstar,
dying of brain cancer at the age of fifty eight.

Speaker 3 (33:24):
Not only was.

Speaker 1 (33:24):
Mtumbo one of the more fun players to cover and
talk about and watch play, great humanitarian as well, did
so many things that just a laundry list of things
he had decided to do with his life. And you know,
it really hurt today seeing the loss of Matumbo, because
he was fun. He was somebody that the average sports
fan enjoyed watching because of the block shots and the

(33:47):
way he would wag his finger, and the finger wag
became his calling card. And when people still wag their
fingers now and it's a Matumbo, you know, he's the
first guy there. Don't bring that weak ass blank in
my face.

Speaker 6 (33:58):
Right.

Speaker 4 (33:59):
But it's funny because so many other things have gone
to the wayside from yesteryear and and the memories of
the NBA. Yeah, during that time, it's all right, people
recognize Jordan, Like how many of the young players like, yeah,
it was Jordan. But the finger wag, Yeah, no, that's
been passed down. Maybe they've lost lost in translation who
started it, but the actual act, Oh, it lives on.

Speaker 1 (34:20):
Yeah, I mean people still do. People do it now.
They don't even know why they do it. You know,
the finger wag of.

Speaker 3 (34:24):
A tumbo and I do it to my kids just
to hand out of the cookie. You talk like him too.
I said, no, you can't do that. You could. Did
you do it like that? Well, you have to, you
have to.

Speaker 1 (34:35):
I mean, so that's really kind of the bridge is
that it was even in a mean tweet back in
the day of hey, we've got a replacement for Cookie Monster.

Speaker 3 (34:43):
You know, he was.

Speaker 1 (34:44):
Such a cult hero when he was at his peak
because it look his game was about defense.

Speaker 3 (34:50):
He said, you know he still look he was still a.

Speaker 1 (34:52):
Guy that would score points and but he'd be give
me double double. He's rebounding in block shots defensively and
you probably saw the best of of his a career today,
so many times flying out of nowhere for big block
sometimes just standing flat footed and blocking superstars. Lebron told
a great story today about when he came into the
league and the first time but Tumble blocked him, and

(35:12):
he said of when he felt like I could hit
by a truck or something.

Speaker 3 (35:15):
Passage.

Speaker 6 (35:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (35:16):
I always remember him from the nineteen ninety eight NBA
Live commercial. Oh yeah yeah, not a guy that for him,
normally it's your you're featuring scores?

Speaker 3 (35:24):
What do you have to ken me? Because of the voice, uh,
and the iconic moves like what do you do?

Speaker 4 (35:28):
Dunk on them and they bring the double dunk on
both of them, dunk on all of them.

Speaker 3 (35:34):
It just kept going.

Speaker 1 (35:35):
But whenever I think of him, and look, we've had
a lot of fun the last couple of years. We
played that, you know that that message he put out
there when he had his email hacked and he wanted
to tell people, look, I'm not trying to get you
to invest in a company that my email was hacked. Uh,
I remember, you know, It's it's just we played we've
played this for years now on the show for years. Yeah,

(35:57):
I mean it's it's it's was so fun to play that,
and just he's one of those guys and you think
of his career, you put a smile on your face.
You think of how great and how much he enjoyed
the game. And whenever I say you say the name
to Kemba Mattumbo to me, I think of the same thing.
Nineteen ninety four, the first ever eight seed to beat
to one seed in the NBA Playoffs was the Nuggets

(36:19):
beating the SuperSonics. And this is a great SuperSonics team, right,
Sam Perkins and Gary Payton, like this was Sonic supposed
to roll to the NBA Final, Like they were a
great team. But it was such a huge upset by
the Nuggets. And after Game five, that shot of him
grabbing the final rebound, falling to the ground and a
camera guy running onto the camera and running onto the

(36:40):
court standing over him with the camera and he's yelling,
and he's holding the basketball because he was so excited
to win and pulling that big upset, that pure joy
on his face of we won. We did it with
no one thought we could. It was such a I
remember I remem this thirty years ago, and I still
remember the excitement surrounding that series. This is not gonna happen.
See's not going to be the one, is it. And

(37:01):
he's holding onto the basketball like it's a baby. And
I'll always that that's whenever you say Matumbo. And there's
so many pieces of video that gone up today people
posting videos of pictures they took with him in the
airport over the last two years. He was a great guy,
would always take pictures with people. I'll just think of
him holding the basketball and he's yelling, laying on the
ground after the upset over the Sonics. It was just

(37:22):
some kind of moment.

Speaker 4 (37:23):
Yeah, just an iconic image, no question about it. And
for a guy the joy of the game being around
the game, spreading it globally and using his platform as
he did. But yeah, that that image just iconic. And
whoever the videographer was fantastic. But back in the day,
my brothers and I we used to write letters, you know,

(37:43):
through the mail autograph submissions. He was one of the
big superstars that wrote back and actually wrote my brother's
got a note for cool stuff. I've got an autographed
Beckett cover that he sent back signed. So but you know,
just one of those guys that was accessible and remained
just a positive voice for the NBA. You saw the

(38:06):
outpouring of tributes from players for what he meant to
them as not just as a player, but also looking
at the impact they could have globally.

Speaker 3 (38:15):
He was a leader in that front as well, and See,
here's the thing.

Speaker 1 (38:18):
If you told me you had a story about your
brothers and to Kevin mctumba, I would say, oh, they're
the ones that stole his email.

Speaker 3 (38:23):
They're they're the ones that are wowow wow, the guy
who does a PSA. They just kind of say, hey,
be careful. All these years we figured it out.

Speaker 1 (38:32):
It's Harmon's brothers connected the dots.

Speaker 3 (38:36):
Rest in peace to Kevin Mtumbo. What a life fifty
eight years old.

Speaker 1 (38:40):
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Coming up next, we get back into the biggest story
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