October 25, 2024 • 38 mins
The one, the only Todd Fuhrman joins Jason and Mike for all the World Series, NFL Week 8 and College Football odds. Sam Darnold’s facemask non-call was so brutal even the Rams couldn’t believe it. Plus, why a Cooper Kupp trade may now be off the table!
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big mistake by Cooper Cup. The Rams lead this game
twenty eight to twenty. We are at the two minute warning.
It was a third and twelve for the Rams. The
Rams throw a pass out in the flat to Cooper Cup,
who tries to maneuver his way for a first down. However,
he gets way too close to the sideline gets tackled
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out of bounds. So instead of the clock rolling in
Minnesota getting the ball back with under a minute ten left,
maybe around a minute, it's going to be Minnesota ball.
With about a minute forty five left to get down
the field, they are a touchdown and two point conversion
away from forcing overtime.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
A big, big mistake.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
Also big mistake watching Syracuse play tonight, Pit beat Syracuse
eighty one to three.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
They get felt like it.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
They get three pick six's in the first half to
beat Syracuse and then they're running a hurry up offense
with twenty seconds left in the game, up forty one
to thirteen. I wonder what that handshake between Nardoozi and
Fran Brown was, Like, That's gonna be interesting for Syracuse
for next year. So those your big football headlines happening
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right now, But what about the World Series? What about
the odds? Who does Vegas like no place better ahead?
Right now? Then to Vegas, longtime friend of the show,
former odds maker at Caesars. Check him out on the
Bet the Board podcast. He sounds sexy. He's on CBS
as well, and is Todd Furman. Todd, what's happening, Bud Hey?
Speaker 4 (02:25):
Kudos to the Orange for taking the drama out of
the football game tonight at a cruise your field before
we got to the end of the first quarter. So
Kyle McCord, step on off, you're the next franchise quarterback
of the New York Jetropolitan.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
Well, look, I wanted to make sure.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
Look, it's a big Thursday night football game between the
Vikings and the Rams. People need to watch it. They
wanted to make sure no one had to channel Flip by.
That's Syracuse thinking about you, Todd Furman, and you make
a big joke at their expense.
Speaker 4 (02:47):
I mean, hey, credit to Syracuse. They did win the statue.
They were plus one hundred and ten in terms of
overall net yards against Pittsburgh, and it's rare a team
can put forty one points on the scoreboard despite having
two hundred and seventeen total yards of offense. So we
can always credit the Orange for taking things to the
next level, whether it's in sports broadcasting or a variety
of other pursuits for the proud alumni base.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
Now, way, well, you said you said plus one fourteen, right,
there wasn't that The amount of total yards on interception
returns for the pitt Panthers tonight. I think there was
SPUs one fourteen when eighteen what's something?
Speaker 4 (03:17):
Oh for that general vicinity.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
Yeah, it's a lot more football on the way. But
look here we are, night before the World Series. Harmon
and I made our picks last hour. He likes the Dodgers.
In six, I like the Dodgers and seven. What are
you thinking right now about this?
Speaker 4 (03:33):
I mean, I'm a Yankee fan born and raised, and
while I don't live and die with the pin Stripers
like I used to when I was younger, it's tough
for me to make a compelling case against them. Although
if I'm taking off my Yankee fandom and looking at
this purely from a sports betting standpoint, you know, I
think the Dodgers offer a little bit of value, and
it's part of the reason that we have seen the
Dodgers get bet from right around to dollar thirty favorite
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series up to minus a dollar forty. Credit to Dave Roberts.
I know he draws a ton of criticism for the
way that he handled the pitching staff in previous postseasons,
but cobbling together twenty seven outs has really been an
adventure for this team. On a night in, night out, basis,
and we'll see if some of that bullpen magic can continue.
Knowing that the Yankees have a decided edge of the
starting pitching.
Speaker 3 (04:12):
Spot, well that's where it gets fun.
Speaker 5 (04:14):
As we go in game props for Game one, anything
pop off the radar for you there?
Speaker 4 (04:19):
You know, not really, I think these series kind of
take on a life of their own. So when you
try and figure out how the managers are going to
go about handling some of their matchups, sometimes it's good
to get a game under your belt and identify some
of the opportunities that might be there. We know the
headliners sho hey Otani and Aaron Judge. Books are going
to force you to pay a premium to try and
bet those guys in any of the individual markets, So
I look a little bit further down the line up
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for some of those role players that are going to
have a pivotal role in determining the outcome. But one
thing for folks who want to get involved in prop
betting when it comes to postseason baseball, you'll look at
some of these over unders for the total amount of
outs that these pitchers will record, and it's a little
bit of a different spot. Knowing that these managers are
going to have very quick leashes, more so than they'll
have during the regular season, all right.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
Tod Now, obviously sho Hao Tani and Aaron Judge are
the two big favorites for MVP. Certainly Soto is going
to be up there too. But if you wanted to
look for value at who's gonna could be the World
Series MVP, don't say Tommy Edmond because I'm never going
to be over Tommy Edmond from the NLCS. Who'd be
a good value pick that you like for MVP of
the World Series.
Speaker 4 (05:21):
Would Francisco Lindor be a good option?
Speaker 6 (05:23):
Or it's a lot of todd Sure, I just want
I just wanted to check and make sure that, you know,
Mets fans were growing as a loud course that he
should have been considered for regular season MVP, so I
wanted to make sure Fall Classic MVP was still very much,
you know, potentially on the table.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
But no, Hey, Austeny, he is going to be the
first guy to ever unanimously finished second in MVP voting.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
Come on, man, that's a big deal.
Speaker 4 (05:50):
I mean, that is the most Mets thing of Mets
thing that I've ever heard in my entire life, and
you know what, maybe they'll be able to hang a
banner at City Field for that, much like the Rangers
elected to do for me regular season champions because they
won the President's Trophy. But we're looking for a little
bit of value further down the board. Under normal circumstances,
you'd make the case for Freddie Freeman, but you're never
sure exactly how that ankle will hold up. You try
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and look at you know, a Dodgers postseason hero, Key
k Hernandez. Credit to him, he apparently has really bought
into load management from Major League Baseball standpoint, Take the
entire regular season off, just show up for the playoffs
and hope that you can become a Dodger legend. At
twenty five to one. An intriguing prospect there on the
Yankee side, you know, I think gian Carlos Stanton is
a guy that's probably not being given enough credit for
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what he's meant to anchor the middle of that Yankees lineup.
Won Soto and Aaron Judge get all the headlines, but
gian Carlos Stanton has been one of the clue guys
so far this season, coming up a timely hit. So
i'd make a slight case for him at eight to one.
I think there's a defined path for him to get there.
Speaker 5 (06:46):
I really helped that if the Yankees were to win
that that's the case because Jason's dad has a liking
problem with Stanton.
Speaker 3 (06:53):
He really does. No, no, no, My.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
Dad would almost rather the Yankees lose the World Series
than Stanton play well and be the MVP.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
And almost almost. I'm not right, but almost you'd rather
have that happen.
Speaker 4 (07:05):
That is quite the interesting dynamics. But I'm not going
to try and get into your old man's psychology in
one way shape.
Speaker 5 (07:10):
Or For college football Saturday, LSU Texas A and m
LSU after the early struggle, now up to number eight
in the.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
Polls fifty five of the over under. And this one's
basically a pick. I'm todd yeah, I.
Speaker 4 (07:24):
Mean, numbers come down. We saw you in m open
as a three and a half point favorite. LSU taking
some money. A tough spot for the Tigers. Third straight
difficult conference game. Two weeks ago, they take care of
business against Old Miss. They snatch victory from the Jaws
to defeat with an improbable comeback as small home underdogs.
Last week, they go on the road, very workmanlike in
dispatching Arkansas. And here's an A and M team that
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I just have some questions about. From an offensive standpoint.
Connor Wegman not a guy that leaves me briming with confidence.
But I do think Mike Galco can scheme things up
defensively to neutralize that talented LSU offensive line. But the
big thing for the Tigers and what's created their resurgence
this season is a defense that's starting to take their
identity of a defensive coordinator highly regarded in Blake Baker.
Witweeks has been outstanding taking over for Harold Perkins, and
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his contributions more than evident on the stat sheet. I
like the game under the total of bit I think
fifty five is a big number, and I have some
major concerns about LSU being able to hit explosives and
AM and M consistently moving the football against that underrated
and drastically improved LSU stop unit.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
All right, Todd Pardy, you about the Board podcast. You
get all your big college football games there. I know
you break down Texas at Vandy. You have boys in UNLV,
but how I don't know. I keep going back to
Notre Dame. Navy's just going to be fun. Like, it's
going to feel like they should do the game in
blackett like that the Illinois Michigan game last week. They
should do this game in black and white leather helmets,
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like it hasn't been this big a deal since probably
the mid nineteen forties. Notre Dame in Navy.
Speaker 4 (08:48):
Last time these two teams played only a few years ago,
though back in twenty nineteen, we saw Notre Dame come
into the game as a seven point favorite and take
care at Navy to the tune of a fifty two
to twenty win. But the interesting part about this series,
to your point, is you know, for as often and
frequently as these teams have played, only the third time,
both teams will come into the game ranks since the
late sixties and Navy drawing all sorts of buzz. Great
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see the Service Academy is going out there and competing
at a high level. But you begin to dig into
that resume for Navy and there's some real questions about
who they face for their offense and on the defensive side.
This could be a little bit of a jolt to
the system for him. Navy really starting to round into
shape after the NAU upset, and they're doing so with
decided results, not just trying to slip by by the
skin of their teeth. So when I look at this game,
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I think it's a good by low opportunity for Notre
Dame and to be able to sell Navy stock at
the top of the market. I think the Irish win
and win comfortably, but there's no doubt will create a
very interesting atmosphere of metal Life Stadium on Saturday.
Speaker 5 (09:42):
Shifting to the NFL, one of the games of the week,
Dallas coming off the buy a lot of finger pointing
Jerry Jones and his pressers and radio spots. San Francisco
banged up but a four point favorite at home forty
six the total. Can McCarthy get them off the mat
on the road?
Speaker 4 (10:00):
Expecting all an effort from Dallas in this spot, knowing
they've had two weeks to sit at home and figure
out how to avenge a forty seven to nine loss
against the Detroit Lions and a Dallas team that's three
and zero away from home this year and owen three
at home, but a must win spot of sorts, I'm
not optimistic that they're going to get the services of
Micah Parsons, which is still a massive hole for this team. Defensively,
you look at Dallas on the offensive side, and other
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than Seedee Lamb, not much in the way of game breakers.
But San Francisco dealing with injuries in their own right,
trying to figure out who will or won't be available
at the skill positions for them. Kyle Shanahano has had
Mike McCarthy's number, and I think that's tough for me
to try and get over when I look at this number,
was waiting for it to tick potentially as low as
three if some of those forty nine ers were ruled out.
But earlier today with Deebo Samuel getting in a limited practice,
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number drifted out, and I'll probably be on the sidelines
with the numbers sitting at four and a half and
forty seven here and ideally, you know, from a portfolio standpoint,
would love this game to end in a tie, as
I have both teams under their regular season win total,
So that would be the dream scenario for.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
Me Vegas insider Todd Ferman, and he is on Twitter
at Todd Firman. The links there for the Bet the
Board podcast for the big games in college football on Saturday,
the NFL on Sunday again. Get the link right off
his Twitter page at Todd Furman. Also on Apple as well.
Todd is always buddy appreciated and enjoy the weekend. And
now the Kyle mccordy stop throwing interceptions. I can calm
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down a little bit.
Speaker 4 (11:19):
You know what I heard. He just got intercepted walking
to the bus. So we'll tack a sick and one
on his performance tonight.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
All right, you feel good? You got that. You feel good, Todd?
You feel good?
Speaker 1 (11:28):
All right?
Speaker 3 (11:28):
Great?
Speaker 4 (11:29):
You know what every now and again, I mean, after
Syracuse came in our backyard and took on from the rebels,
I got to take a shot. And Syracuse remains the
great hope to knock off Miami that regular season finale.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
Thanks a bunch, buddy. We'll talk to you day, Todd.
All right, there goes Todd Ferman. Great stuff from Todd.
But now we're going to get into the drama that
just occurred at the end of the Rams win over
the Vikings. The final score was thirty to twenty. Now,
the over under was fifty seven and a half, so
the over under had already hit. So you know this
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this last play, the safety didn't really affect it because
when it was twenty eight twenty we hit the over
under forty seven. Sorry for forty seven in a row.
But the mistake by Cooper Cup we talked about a
few minutes ago not going out of bounds gives the
ball back to the Vikings who have the ball deep
in their own territory. Sam Donald makes a big mistake
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hashtag old Sam a huge mistake by holding onto the
football way too long in the end zone and he
gets sacked for a safety that basically ends the game.
Gave an extra two points, obviously to the Rams, a
game a ten point lead. The Rams got the football back,
they kneeled on it. Bad mistake by Sam Donald, no
matter what you're gonna say, bad mistake by Sam Donald. However,
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a missed face mask call on this play is absolutely
it is unacceptable that the officials were able to miss
this because what it should have been was the Vikings
with the football out up near the thirty yard line,
and instead it was a missed call. And you see
Sam Darnold's neck juke from side to side. There's no
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way you can miss it. It's not a big scrum
in the end zone, and somehow the officials missed it.
Everybody argued it didn't matter. The football went back to
the Rams. They kneeled on it. They win this game
thirty to twenty. I can't wait to see what Kevin
O'Connell is gonna have to say about that coming up
in a bit. But we'll break down everything we saw
tonight why the trade deadline might not be as good
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as it was supposed to be because of what we
just saw as we take a look back at the
biggest Thursday Night game of the year. The Rams save
their season and maybe take everybody off the trade block
as well. Wet more in this game coming up next
right here, We're just getting started. Happy Thursday, Jason and
Mike Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
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Speaker 1 (13:58):
The Jason Smith Show with my best friend Mike Harmon.
Speaker 3 (14:04):
Brok back personally, what a game on.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
Thursday Night Football? The Rams win it thirty to twenty.
They saw they save their Now they save their season.
Speaker 3 (14:14):
Tight shirt. Oh they didn't.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
Yeah, oh they did. They really still they saved their season.
We told you last night. Tonight was high noon for
the Rams. If they win this game, hey we withstood
the injuries and Nakua is back, Cooper Cup is back.
The NFC West is not great. We can pull our
guys off the trade block and we can go and
keep trying to win. But if they lose this game,
you're two and five.
Speaker 3 (14:36):
What are you gonna do?
Speaker 1 (14:37):
Then you're gonna see Cooper Cup get trade you see
other guys on the on the on the trading block.
This was a huge gay was the biggest Thursday night
game of the year because this affects the rest of
the NFL because now other teams now who are gonna
potentially get Cooper Cup, I think are probably out of
the running for it because the Rams win, they beat
a really good Vikings team, and now suddenly everything is
still there for them because they are in the thick
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of it in the NF.
Speaker 5 (15:00):
Well, when we look at the division and what the
forty nine ers are huge tests this week with Dallas
coming out of the bye week home favorites and trying
to get healthy.
Speaker 3 (15:09):
I know Debo went out of his way to tell.
Speaker 5 (15:11):
A young fan, don't worry, I'm gonna be okay, kid,
your fantasy team lives on. But yeah, for the Rams,
the surprise of Puka Dakua. Thought he was maybe still
a week away. Instead he's over one hundred yards. And
then you got Cooper Cup, who was brilliant except for
the one decision that got way too close to the
sideline gets ruled out of bounds, giving the Vikings another chance.
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The other thing, you know is that you can face
mass people with no penalties. That's the other thing we
get coming out of this game. The rules have been amended, well, I.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
Know they've been amended as much as hey, sometimes you
just miss them. The biggest play of the game, which
is what we're going to break down here for a
couple minutes, we got Jay Laser on the way. Soon,
the Rams have a chance to potentially get a first
down and run the clock out on a twelve pass
to Cooper Cup. Cooper Cup makes the big mistake of
getting too close to the sideline. He gets knocked out
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of bounds, and instead of the Rams punting to the
Vikings and the Vikings having about a minute left, they
get the ball with about a minute forty five and
a touchdown in two point conversion sends the game to overtime. However,
that mistake was rendered moot by a mistake that the
officials had. Byron Young gets great penetration on the Vikings
first play from scrimmage, and Sam Donald makes a huge
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mistake not getting rid of the football. There's too much
pressure he is under and too much thinking I'm going
to try to make a play out of it. Sometimes
you just throw the ball away live another day. But
he holds onto the ball a little too long. Byron
Young sacks him for a safety that ends the game. However,
you see the replay, it is a blatant face mask.
Byron Young gets his left hand on the left side
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of Sam Donald's face mask, turns his head to the
side when he sacks in. You can even see Byron
Young right after the sack he goes running away from
Donald with his hands on his helmet like I can't
believe I got his face mask. Except there was no flag.
Referees somehow didn't see this flag. You had the one
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fish of the back. Judges looking right at it, didn't
throw the flag. Kevin O'Connell was upset. Sam Darnald was upset.
He's screaming for a face mask call. And look, it's
a long way to go to say this cost the
Vikings the game because hey, okay, yes, it's a first
down from the twenty five yard line. They still should
have had the chance. It's still seventy five yards away
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to get in the end zone and get a two
point conversion. But you can't miss that call. You can't
miss that call when the stakes are this high, especially
when there's there was no way that you were blocked
from seeing it. There was no it was the bottom
of a scrum. You have to be able to see
this well.
Speaker 5 (17:48):
But that's the thing from where the back judge is like,
even just staring directly at it, it's like the way young
comes flying past him.
Speaker 3 (17:57):
The only way.
Speaker 5 (17:58):
He could have possibly gotten down unless Sam Donald suddenly
became one of those old toys that just falls down
in Turtles, is by grabbing the face mask, because he
doesn't get much contact with the rest of his body,
and you see the violent hook of the way his
helmet and his neck snaps back to the left as
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you're watching it.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
From the end zone. Al Michael said it, well, what
the hell? It offset?
Speaker 5 (18:24):
His other well, it was a slim chance that they
were gonna be able to No you ever mid at
thirty six again, long odds. As you say you're playing,
you've played defense. You're getting some good pressure, Sam Donald.
The numbers are really such a wide swath between clean
pocket and pressured. But you still have the chance. You
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still have justin Jefferson, you still have playmakers. This is
a call that is so obvious as the nose on your.
Speaker 3 (18:50):
Face, right.
Speaker 5 (18:52):
This is just an egregious error by the officiating crew
and the fact that you can't review this, You can't.
Nobody else sees it, like none of the officials. It's
it's so obvious. And you know this this is where
people start getting into conspiratorial.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
He is looking right at us. He's ten yards away
looking at Sam Donald. No no fleck, but.
Speaker 5 (19:16):
He's like directly about two yards to the right. Maybe
you see Donald's face completely turn. So you know we
got a hold of it. You know we didn't get
the jersey because you would would put differently.
Speaker 3 (19:27):
Yeah, I don't know how you missed that car.
Speaker 5 (19:30):
You don't see a hit, You don't see anything like
he does kind of like a drive by and grabs
the face mask.
Speaker 3 (19:36):
Yeah, it's and just for Sam Donald.
Speaker 5 (19:38):
Like if he doesn't grab his face mask and just
flies by because his momentum is gonna carry him past Donald,
he gets another second to maybe throw the ball away,
So he might have still had the opportunity. Doesn't mean
he would have like like you said, doesn't mean they're also.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
Because then another player who was who was close to him.
So even if he slows him down, maybe he gets
tripped up, but it doesn't mean he doesn't ask this call.
And it's think about the NFL, all the all the
the the stop gaps they have put in to make
sure that okay, we'll get this call, we'll get this crossed.
And still how many times we see a call and
go oh yeah, no they can't go back and look
at that one not rule say you can't.
Speaker 5 (20:12):
Go back, can't go back up? Challenge it. Wait really yeap,
that's how it's gonna go be.
Speaker 3 (20:18):
Like he goes to call the safety.
Speaker 5 (20:19):
We're in the middle of finishing up talking like did
I see what did you not see that?
Speaker 3 (20:25):
Yeah? I did safety?
Speaker 1 (20:26):
No the other thing the face max no safety, I
had safety I wanted to make this sound.
Speaker 3 (20:30):
I want to I don't get to do that. I've
never gotten to do that. I never got to call
a safety before. I put my hands over my head
and doing the safety thing.
Speaker 5 (20:37):
The dream of Genie dance while he's at itude gets put.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
My hands together like Dumbledore at the end of the six.
Speaker 3 (20:46):
Phoenix. We're gone, man, I have no intentive going quietly. Yeah,
I make the safety that I've done the safety thing.
That's great. One of the best villains in green and
written history. I don't Dumbledore. Oh yeah, villain? Oh yeah,
villain is a horrible individual. What do you mean you
into that kid? What did you do? Made it?
Speaker 1 (21:06):
He saved everybody? Sorry, spoiled? How many years of therapy
after all?
Speaker 3 (21:11):
That was a lot?
Speaker 5 (21:11):
I mean, I guess you could take the memories out
and just put it in the bottom.
Speaker 3 (21:15):
I don't think you have to worry about therapists. How
about you don't remember any of it?
Speaker 1 (21:18):
Oh yeah, great, we'll take the wet of spell get
out and put it in the pencil.
Speaker 3 (21:21):
We'll be good. Someone finds it later on, going whoa that?
How about no? How about her mind? You having to
do that to her parents?
Speaker 5 (21:27):
Right?
Speaker 3 (21:28):
I'm you're never gonna know I existed. Wait what Yeah, no,
you're never gonna know. Well, we had a good run
and where you go anyway, you're never gonna remember it.
Speaker 5 (21:36):
But this is just an absurd man, And again no
guarantees that they go on a tremendous draw, get.
Speaker 3 (21:44):
The way to go, but you still have to get
it right.
Speaker 5 (21:46):
Matt al Bichaels dis misses it, and Herbstreet immediately goes
hold on, now it's still a first down and the
twenty five like, don't just picturing Amazon executives that don't
know anything you're saying.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
So this was a controversial play. This was really it
was a Oh we had another great game and a
couple of high rated teams that were pretty good. Right
that Sam Arnold is really good? Oh Darnold? Yeah, no,
he's pretty good, isn't he. Yeah, Okay, I'm pretty happy
with what we have so far.
Speaker 5 (22:13):
So bad, I mean, because that's all that they do
a very quick post games like we're out here.
Speaker 1 (22:19):
Yeah, because look, there's there's things to ask for that
are too much. And whatever situation you're in, whether it's
you know, you're playing an NFL game, you want officials
to say what you want decisions to be made to
affect you. The best thing you can say is, look,
(22:39):
I want what is fair and what is reasonable? Right
they say, They to ask, say, hey, I want this
is a little bit too much. I want you to
favor this. I want you to look for this penalty. No,
but just be fair and be reasonable and and and
it's not unfair or unreasonable to expect that you should
have gotten this call.
Speaker 3 (22:58):
You should have seen this. It's too big a play.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
It's not like, hey, we missed this at the six
minute mark of the second quarter and the Vikings you know, okay,
well it's a bad call, but the Vikings you have
a chance to get back in the game.
Speaker 3 (23:10):
It's in the middle of a scrum or whatever it is,
or whatever.
Speaker 1 (23:15):
Sided the game like this said this took a stamp
and said, no, you have no chance. And that's why
it's a big deal, because calls are going to be
missed over the course of a game. And there is
a big difference from a call that's missed the middle
of the first quarter versus something that's missed inside the
two minute warning, when it's when it's a winner lose
kind of play and this became a winner lose play
because it was we missed the call and as a result,
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the Vikings lost. I don't know if they would have won,
but I know they lost. Like they had no chance
to win the game after this play. You can't miss that.
And I don't know how you're going to look. I'm
sure they're gonna find Byron Young as well. Hey face, man,
if you get fine, mat Yeah, what do I care?
Sean mcvalie go, I'll pay that for you.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
Man.
Speaker 5 (23:55):
We won the game. I don't give a crow. There's
just a hat sitting in the card. There's no explanation.
People just start through on a hundred bucks in each.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
But first, there's so much attention on officiating and umpiring
and and I think leagues have had it with the
complaints that we can't get it more right. Look, you
had Rob Manford on the Dan Patrick Show yesterday say, hey,
the automated strike zone is coming to the MLB in
the next summore years. Yeah, because we want to be
able to get it right. And I don't know if
that means that there's no homeplate umpire anymore. He's got
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to be there for plays in the plate. I guess,
but maybe he sits in the chair just you know,
drinking a little bit. Oh, stay out of the way
on pass.
Speaker 5 (24:29):
I will all asleep like the security guard the Seidefeld
episode after George's lobbies for the chair.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
But it's okay, But but I'm always for Hey, we
have the technology to make something the best it can be.
Speaker 3 (24:40):
All right, that's great.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
Doesn't mean suddenly that the home plate umpires are gonna
get paid less money. Hey, you're not calling them all
the strikesing wars? Are you gonna paid less? But we
have the technology and the ability to get something right.
And this is the same thing is there's got to
be a way to go back and say, hey, we
missed this in such a big way. We got to
get it right. Yeah, you want to get it right
the first time. But the whole thing about putting replays, Hey,
if you miss something, because everybody is human, you want
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to make.
Speaker 5 (25:02):
Sure you get But that's the thing, right, if you
eliminate replay and you go back to the days of
old where we don't have replay, then then fine, that's it.
Speaker 3 (25:11):
Human error is part of the game.
Speaker 1 (25:12):
That could have been an interception by Jay Berwanger, But
they missed that call, but legitimately right.
Speaker 5 (25:18):
But once you actually have the technology in place, you
get it right. The fact that there's still the arm
I don't know, that's a bridge too far. Like, no,
we've already opened the door. We've already walked through. Now
it's just all right, take that thing off the shelf
and let's utilize it to the best of our ability.
That's where we're out with instant replay. And this is
a standalone game because that's the other part Thursday game.
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It resurrects the rams, something we're going to talk about
over the course of the rest of the evening. Left
for dead, everybody's hurt. What's going on. We've seen true
deals across the league, and now a team in Los
Angeles gets a very generous call in a standalone game. Now,
the over under was already hit, as you alluded to before,
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It was either forty seven or forty seven and a half.
I saw it at a forty seven earlier this morning,
so we're already.
Speaker 3 (26:08):
At forty eight. So for that angle, it was already.
Speaker 5 (26:11):
Done already, and we'd already crossed that rubicon and the
vikings were a two and a half point fase.
Speaker 1 (26:17):
And I want to be clear that this is this
was it was still a long way for the Vikings
to win.
Speaker 3 (26:22):
Of course, the Rams probably still would have won. Yeah,
what's the win probability? I don't know.
Speaker 1 (26:27):
It's you're going seventy five yards with no timeouts, which
you could because look in the NFL, if you have
thirty seconds and you get the ball back in your
own end, you have you have a chance to win
the game.
Speaker 3 (26:37):
But you throwing from the goal line, but you gotta
get in the end zone.
Speaker 1 (26:40):
And you gotta get the two point conversion, and and
then you got to win in overtime.
Speaker 3 (26:44):
Right, So there's a long there's a long way to go.
Speaker 1 (26:46):
So it don't take away from I don't want to
take away from the fact the Rams had a huge
w here and they made the plays they should. This
is this is This is more about hey, big moments.
You got to get these calls right.
Speaker 5 (26:58):
But that yeah, that's the thing, right, You can't suddenly
eliminate and take the wind probability to ninety nine point
on a missed call when you have the ability to
just say, wow, that guy just decided he was looking
at something else.
Speaker 3 (27:13):
Yeah, that raft needs the needle, like, but we you
need a needle sound effect, I shirt you can't. He
can't say your needles sounding like that.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
I can't say the guy needs a needs the needle,
and you play a gun sow that that's too No,
it's not a musket, how is it.
Speaker 3 (27:32):
I want to see it coming.
Speaker 5 (27:34):
I'm gonna load it up like it's the Civil War.
But there's an anticipate musket. There's an anticipatory thing to there,
the psychological torture of the muskete being loaded in front
of you.
Speaker 3 (27:45):
To what he actually eyes and fire. Here's the thing.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
If I'm in the Civil War and I'm coming at
a guy and he shoots at me and he misses,
I know he needs like eight minutes to reload that.
Speaker 5 (27:54):
As long as I have a bayonet, I'm feeling better.
That's why they are dead. They're the bayonet at the ends.
Speaker 3 (27:58):
In case you.
Speaker 1 (27:59):
Wanted, Oh I got you, Oh I didn't see the
sort it. Oh you missed, Jason. Can you imagine they
both missed and they're just like, oh you wait till I
reload this thing?
Speaker 3 (28:08):
Like the trash talk, they're just yelling at each time,
watch like this.
Speaker 1 (28:12):
I already got the gunpowder in oh blake your gunpowder match.
Speaker 3 (28:15):
Why it's not even waiting for you at home?
Speaker 5 (28:17):
Was that in history of the world, like your wife
waiting for me to get home for your eleven kids
of mine?
Speaker 3 (28:23):
Oh yeo, yeah, yeah. Remember when you went to Fort
Sumter last year. I wasn't in Fort Sumter.
Speaker 6 (28:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (28:30):
Just wait till this gunpowder's in there. Somebody give me
more gunpowder. I gotta kill this guy. Oh man.
Speaker 1 (28:39):
Time now to find out what's trending in the wide
world of sports. From special delivery Steve to Saga. I
don't know how you follow that sea, but.
Speaker 7 (28:45):
Go ahead, you do not so in the endfl tonight
in Los Angeles, that's Fort Sumter. The Rams beat the
Vikings thirty to twenty. Matthew Stafford four touchdown passes, one interception,
Kyra and Williams ninety seven yards rushing at a TD reception,
and the Rams got their two star wide receivers back
from injury tonight. Cooper Cup had a touchdown five catches
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fifty one yards. Poka Nakua was a surprise active after
the knee injury for much of the year. Seven catches
for him one hundred and six yards. You know, Sam
Darnold had two touchdown passes quickly in this one. First
two drives, so Minnesota on those first two drives one
hundred and forty yards. For the rest of the night,
one hundred thirty six yards of offense, Rams beat Minnesota
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thirty to twenty.
Speaker 3 (29:31):
By the way.
Speaker 7 (29:31):
Vikings tight end TJ. Hawkinson is still out after last
year's torn ACL. He could debut next weekend. That Coltstid
Vikings game was flexed to a Sunday night. Lions wide
receiver Jamison Williams accepted his two game suspension for a
performance enhancer. He called the violation a complete surprise. Kansas
City running back Kareem Hunt returned to full practice from
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the hip injury. The Chiefs officially acquired wide receiver DeAndre
Hopkins and placed wide receiver sky More on ir Titans
wide receiver Calvin Ridley miss practice again with a foot injury.
Ravens wide out Zay Flowers miss practice with an ankle injury.
Colt's running back Jonathan Taylor practiced fully. He has missed
three games with a bad ankle. Saints wide receiver Chris
(30:13):
Olave practice fully after a concussion in college football tonight,
Syracuse five and one was playing at nineteenth ranked Pitt
six and zero. Pitt dominated at home forty one thirteen
in fact Syracuse rushing, including the four sacks, twenty nine
carries six yards on the ground, Pitt led thirty one
to nothing at the half, including three pick sixes. Late
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Friday night on.
Speaker 1 (30:36):
FO you want a great quick story about this, So
yesterday on eBay, I bid on a Syracuse football hat.
Speaker 3 (30:43):
Okay, seroo was out.
Speaker 5 (30:44):
There for like sign by quarterback for like twenty They
pay you to take those.
Speaker 3 (30:48):
No, no, no, it was like it was no, you know
what it was. It's one of those games the game hats,
like from the nineties. Oh my god.
Speaker 1 (30:53):
Okay, So the hat was up there for twenty eight bucks,
right I came in with a bid and I'm waiting
And I was like, okay, you know I'm waiting because
I bid like.
Speaker 3 (31:02):
Like twenty five on whatever it was.
Speaker 1 (31:04):
And right after the game ended, Right after the game ended,
I got a note from the seller saying, you saw
it at twenty eight dollars, but this person wants to
sell it to you for sixteen dollars.
Speaker 3 (31:16):
Right after the game was over, they cut it down
almost my half. Wow, Hey, I gotta get rid of this.
Speaker 5 (31:21):
No one's gonna want to buy it in there, and
so so I want to get that hat for like
twelve dollars were watching it.
Speaker 3 (31:28):
I saw that you were watching it, but didn't.
Speaker 7 (31:30):
Isn't that that good for the whole athletic department. It's
not just for the football team, right, And there's still
a basketball season.
Speaker 1 (31:36):
There is, there is, But I think after tonight they thought, okay,
maybe maybe maybe maybe that boy Syracuse lost forty one
thirteen to lower the price, lower the fday want to
sell much get wrong there?
Speaker 7 (31:46):
Yeah, late Friday night on Fox TV, USC will host Rutgers.
Speaker 3 (31:50):
Of course.
Speaker 7 (31:50):
World Series starts Friday on Fox. Yankees at Dodgers will
be gin at about eight pm Eastern time. Four games
in the NBA already wins for Dallas and Boston. At
Sacramento mid third quarter, Kings lead Minnesota eighty one seventy
four despite twenty five points from Julius Randall of the Timberwolves.
And the Oklahoma City Thunder are leading mid third quarter
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at Denvers seventy three sixty six. NHL wins for Dallas
and Detroit and US women sucker when it's exhibition against
Iceland three to one in Austin, Texas. You know, the
US women's team has never lost a game when playing
in the state of Texas. Now thirty four and zero,
outscoring opponents there one thirty seven to fourteen.
Speaker 1 (32:31):
Back to you, Thank you, Steve though The Jason Smith
Show with Mike Carmon live from the tirerac dot Com
studios coming up next. More from Thursday Night Football, the
biggest game of the year. Why because so many teams
had a vested interest in the olcome of tonight's game,
and if you were looking to trade for a superstar
wide receiver second half of the season, I don't think
(32:52):
that's gonna happen.
Speaker 3 (32:54):
That's next, right here, Jason to Mike Fox.
Speaker 2 (32:56):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
pm Pacific Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 1 (33:05):
The Jason Smith Show with my best friend Mike Harmon
a lot from the Tirack dot Com studios. We got
Jay Glazer coming up in about twelve minutes. Break down
everything we saw on Thursday Night Football, and boy was
tonight the biggest game of the year. Simply because it
was going to help shape the back half of the
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NFL season. You know, we spent a lot of time
on this last night. Vikings Rams great game, right. Vikings
started out really good. Sam Darnold's been a big surprise.
Rams have been disappointing, had a lot of injuries. Cooper
Cup was out, Pukaakua was out, and we told you
that this was the rubber hits, the road game for
the Rams. It was high noon. If the Rams win tonight,
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they moved to three and four and they're in the
thick of it in the NFC West, in an NFC
West that is underachieving, and an NFC overall that outside
of the NFC North, there's not a lot of great teams,
so they would stick with it. They're getting their guys back.
Cooper Cup came back tonight, had a touchdown. Puknnakua came
back tonight. He had seven catches for one hundred yards
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to night on nine targets. If they won, they would
keep it going. But if they lost, you fall to
two and five, you would see trades. You heard Cooper
Cup's name on the trading block. You might have seen
Matthew Stafford's name out thereafter, and suddenly teams around the
NFL were looking at this game and going, Okay, come on, Vikings,
I really want to go get Cooper Cup. Mike Tomlins watching,
(34:30):
I really want to get Cooper Cup. Jim Harbaugh's going, oh,
I really love to get that Cooper Cup. But we
told you if the Rams win, things are gonna change,
and tuddah, what just happened. I told you we're ahead
of the curve. Sean McVeagh and his postgame press conference
was asked about the Cooper Cup trade rumors. He said, listen,
don't don't believe everything you hear, but he did address
(34:50):
it full on and said, I don't expect Cooper cups
status with us to change. He's going to stay a
member of the Rams, and they why not, because the
NFC is so wide open. Now you're healthy, I picked
the Rams go to the Super Bowl beginning of the
I know I would curse them with all these injuries,
but now you are back to being the Rams. The
forty nine ers are still trying to figure out who
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they are. They're still extremely unhealthy. The Cardinals and the Cardinals.
The Seahawks are the Seahawks. They're not bad, but they're
not great. The Rams can still be the best team
in that division and one of the top teams in
the NFC. They've gotten everybody back. They still run the
football really well. I told you that Kyen willm is
gonna have a big night. He ran for ninety seven
yards tonight. The Rams can still be the Rams. This
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is now them going forward. And now all the other
teams that were hoping for a shot at Cooper Cup
or other players, you gotta go someplace else. He's staying
around now.
Speaker 5 (35:40):
It helped that his tag team partner because he did
channel the Undertaker talking about rising up and they didn't
really finish off the Rams and put them under that,
you know, with pookin Nakua coming back. All of a sudden,
oh like, it got that much better. For Matthew Stafford.
The fact that he's perfected the fifteen yards drop back
(36:01):
has helped too, because he really he does like the.
Speaker 3 (36:04):
Old video game thing.
Speaker 5 (36:05):
If I'm gonna go all the way back here and
then I'm gonna fire it and it's a cannon shot
to my wide receiver, so yeah, all of a sudden
it opens back up. Kian Williams has been fantastic fantasy
circles certainly know about him. Gets a bit overshadowed in
the national discussion because the passing game gets all the love.
Speaker 3 (36:25):
But he's been consistent.
Speaker 5 (36:26):
They had a couple of games that they should have
won earlier this season that they gave away.
Speaker 3 (36:29):
That game against.
Speaker 5 (36:30):
Chicago, they should have won that game game against Green Bay,
it got away from them a little bit, but they
were in it until late in the third. And then
you go back to the game against Detroit to start
the season, game that could have gone either way. So
now you get back on the schedule. The next date
is at Seattle. Then you got Miami. Well in theory
(36:53):
two US now back, so we'll see if it's a different,
better replenished version of the Dolphins. But then you got
New England, Philly, New Orleans. Like, there's winnable games on
the schedule. Is the point when you start looking down
the road here as long as you stay healthy. But
do I believe that they put some of the stuff
about trades out there that it wasn't just wanting speculation,
(37:15):
Damn right they Oh yeah, hey, you never know, he's
the best in the marketplace.
Speaker 1 (37:19):
Whatever else was going on, Yeah, and you have three
receivers that are young that you really like. Right, Nikua
is huge and mar Lobbinson had two squads today. They
really like Jordan Whittington too. He's a guy coming out
and obviously two two Outwell's a gadget. Guy can catch
a lot of passes. Hey, if we can get by
with this passing game and not have to pay somebody
this money and get a draft pick. I mean, sure,
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Cooper Cup is great, you'd want him, but hey, if
our season goes by the boards, we're not going to
come back another year when he's thirty two and a
half years old. Hey, try to stay healthy. Let's try
to figure this out. They certainly were trying to test
the waters for it, but now I'm sure they pull
it all back. It's like in fantasy you put a
guy in the trading block and he gives you twenty
one points. I'm taking him off the trade block, not trading.
Speaker 5 (37:59):
There's somebody else gets hurt, and you say, no, I'm
taking it off. You know, he offer that trade and
immediately rescind it as soon as you see the ankle twist,
knowing that the guy's going to get to his team
and accept.
Speaker 3 (38:10):
It as fast as possible.
Speaker 5 (38:13):
So on the other side from Minnesota, they did lose
darrisa early in this game. To highlight what's going on there,
because that was a big loss on the offensive line.
You saw what the Rams were able to do in
terms of their defensive deployment thereafter. But let's also start
this once again. Sean mcfay is a genius. He's the
smartest guy in the world, and tonight he was better
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than Flores.
Speaker 1 (38:36):
Exit out about a Fresca exit swallen down the Jason
Smithson with Mike Carmon Live and the Tyreck dot Com studios.
So many angles coming off this game. It was such
a big win for the Rams and a big loss
for anybody else who wanted to get Cooper Cup. Coming
up next, Jake Lazer the latest on this and all
the big stories in the NFL.
Speaker 3 (38:54):
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big mistake by Cooper Cup. The Rams lead this game
twenty eight to twenty. We are at the two minute warning.
It was a third and twelve for the Rams. The
Rams throw a pass out in the flat to Cooper Cup,
who tries to maneuver his way for a first down. However,
he gets way too close to the sideline gets tackled
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out of bounds. So instead of the clock rolling in
Minnesota getting the ball back with under a minute ten left,
maybe around a minute, it's going to be Minnesota ball.
With about a minute forty five left to get down
the field, they are a touchdown and two point conversion
away from forcing overtime.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
A big, big mistake.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
Also big mistake watching Syracuse play tonight, Pit beat Syracuse
eighty one to three.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
They get felt like it.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
They get three pick six's in the first half to
beat Syracuse and then they're running a hurry up offense
with twenty seconds left in the game, up forty one
to thirteen. I wonder what that handshake between Nardoozi and
Fran Brown was, Like, That's gonna be interesting for Syracuse
for next year. So those your big football headlines happening
(02:03):
right now, But what about the World Series? What about
the odds? Who does Vegas like no place better ahead?
Right now? Then to Vegas, longtime friend of the show,
former odds maker at Caesars. Check him out on the
Bet the Board podcast. He sounds sexy. He's on CBS
as well, and is Todd Furman. Todd, what's happening, Bud Hey?
Speaker 4 (02:25):
Kudos to the Orange for taking the drama out of
the football game tonight at a cruise your field before
we got to the end of the first quarter. So
Kyle McCord, step on off, you're the next franchise quarterback
of the New York Jetropolitan.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
Well, look, I wanted to make sure.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
Look, it's a big Thursday night football game between the
Vikings and the Rams. People need to watch it. They
wanted to make sure no one had to channel Flip by.
That's Syracuse thinking about you, Todd Furman, and you make
a big joke at their expense.
Speaker 4 (02:47):
I mean, hey, credit to Syracuse. They did win the statue.
They were plus one hundred and ten in terms of
overall net yards against Pittsburgh, and it's rare a team
can put forty one points on the scoreboard despite having
two hundred and seventeen total yards of offense. So we
can always credit the Orange for taking things to the
next level, whether it's in sports broadcasting or a variety
of other pursuits for the proud alumni base.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
Now, way, well, you said you said plus one fourteen, right,
there wasn't that The amount of total yards on interception
returns for the pitt Panthers tonight. I think there was
SPUs one fourteen when eighteen what's something?
Speaker 4 (03:17):
Oh for that general vicinity.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
Yeah, it's a lot more football on the way. But
look here we are, night before the World Series. Harmon
and I made our picks last hour. He likes the Dodgers.
In six, I like the Dodgers and seven. What are
you thinking right now about this?
Speaker 4 (03:33):
I mean, I'm a Yankee fan born and raised, and
while I don't live and die with the pin Stripers
like I used to when I was younger, it's tough
for me to make a compelling case against them. Although
if I'm taking off my Yankee fandom and looking at
this purely from a sports betting standpoint, you know, I
think the Dodgers offer a little bit of value, and
it's part of the reason that we have seen the
Dodgers get bet from right around to dollar thirty favorite
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series up to minus a dollar forty. Credit to Dave Roberts.
I know he draws a ton of criticism for the
way that he handled the pitching staff in previous postseasons,
but cobbling together twenty seven outs has really been an
adventure for this team. On a night in, night out, basis,
and we'll see if some of that bullpen magic can continue.
Knowing that the Yankees have a decided edge of the
starting pitching.
Speaker 3 (04:12):
Spot, well that's where it gets fun.
Speaker 5 (04:14):
As we go in game props for Game one, anything
pop off the radar for you there?
Speaker 4 (04:19):
You know, not really, I think these series kind of
take on a life of their own. So when you
try and figure out how the managers are going to
go about handling some of their matchups, sometimes it's good
to get a game under your belt and identify some
of the opportunities that might be there. We know the
headliners sho hey Otani and Aaron Judge. Books are going
to force you to pay a premium to try and
bet those guys in any of the individual markets, So
I look a little bit further down the line up
(04:41):
for some of those role players that are going to
have a pivotal role in determining the outcome. But one
thing for folks who want to get involved in prop
betting when it comes to postseason baseball, you'll look at
some of these over unders for the total amount of
outs that these pitchers will record, and it's a little
bit of a different spot. Knowing that these managers are
going to have very quick leashes, more so than they'll
have during the regular season, all right.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
Tod Now, obviously sho Hao Tani and Aaron Judge are
the two big favorites for MVP. Certainly Soto is going
to be up there too. But if you wanted to
look for value at who's gonna could be the World
Series MVP, don't say Tommy Edmond because I'm never going
to be over Tommy Edmond from the NLCS. Who'd be
a good value pick that you like for MVP of
the World Series.
Speaker 4 (05:21):
Would Francisco Lindor be a good option?
Speaker 6 (05:23):
Or it's a lot of todd Sure, I just want
I just wanted to check and make sure that, you know,
Mets fans were growing as a loud course that he
should have been considered for regular season MVP, so I
wanted to make sure Fall Classic MVP was still very much,
you know, potentially on the table.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
But no, Hey, Austeny, he is going to be the
first guy to ever unanimously finished second in MVP voting.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
Come on, man, that's a big deal.
Speaker 4 (05:50):
I mean, that is the most Mets thing of Mets
thing that I've ever heard in my entire life, and
you know what, maybe they'll be able to hang a
banner at City Field for that, much like the Rangers
elected to do for me regular season champions because they
won the President's Trophy. But we're looking for a little
bit of value further down the board. Under normal circumstances,
you'd make the case for Freddie Freeman, but you're never
sure exactly how that ankle will hold up. You try
(06:12):
and look at you know, a Dodgers postseason hero, Key
k Hernandez. Credit to him, he apparently has really bought
into load management from Major League Baseball standpoint, Take the
entire regular season off, just show up for the playoffs
and hope that you can become a Dodger legend. At
twenty five to one. An intriguing prospect there on the
Yankee side, you know, I think gian Carlos Stanton is
a guy that's probably not being given enough credit for
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what he's meant to anchor the middle of that Yankees lineup.
Won Soto and Aaron Judge get all the headlines, but
gian Carlos Stanton has been one of the clue guys
so far this season, coming up a timely hit. So
i'd make a slight case for him at eight to one.
I think there's a defined path for him to get there.
Speaker 5 (06:46):
I really helped that if the Yankees were to win
that that's the case because Jason's dad has a liking
problem with Stanton.
Speaker 3 (06:53):
He really does. No, no, no, My.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
Dad would almost rather the Yankees lose the World Series
than Stanton play well and be the MVP.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
And almost almost. I'm not right, but almost you'd rather
have that happen.
Speaker 4 (07:05):
That is quite the interesting dynamics. But I'm not going
to try and get into your old man's psychology in
one way shape.
Speaker 5 (07:10):
Or For college football Saturday, LSU Texas A and m
LSU after the early struggle, now up to number eight
in the.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
Polls fifty five of the over under. And this one's
basically a pick. I'm todd yeah, I.
Speaker 4 (07:24):
Mean, numbers come down. We saw you in m open
as a three and a half point favorite. LSU taking
some money. A tough spot for the Tigers. Third straight
difficult conference game. Two weeks ago, they take care of
business against Old Miss. They snatch victory from the Jaws
to defeat with an improbable comeback as small home underdogs.
Last week, they go on the road, very workmanlike in
dispatching Arkansas. And here's an A and M team that
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I just have some questions about. From an offensive standpoint.
Connor Wegman not a guy that leaves me briming with confidence.
But I do think Mike Galco can scheme things up
defensively to neutralize that talented LSU offensive line. But the
big thing for the Tigers and what's created their resurgence
this season is a defense that's starting to take their
identity of a defensive coordinator highly regarded in Blake Baker.
Witweeks has been outstanding taking over for Harold Perkins, and
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his contributions more than evident on the stat sheet. I
like the game under the total of bit I think
fifty five is a big number, and I have some
major concerns about LSU being able to hit explosives and
AM and M consistently moving the football against that underrated
and drastically improved LSU stop unit.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
All right, Todd Pardy, you about the Board podcast. You
get all your big college football games there. I know
you break down Texas at Vandy. You have boys in UNLV,
but how I don't know. I keep going back to
Notre Dame. Navy's just going to be fun. Like, it's
going to feel like they should do the game in
blackett like that the Illinois Michigan game last week. They
should do this game in black and white leather helmets,
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like it hasn't been this big a deal since probably
the mid nineteen forties. Notre Dame in Navy.
Speaker 4 (08:48):
Last time these two teams played only a few years ago,
though back in twenty nineteen, we saw Notre Dame come
into the game as a seven point favorite and take
care at Navy to the tune of a fifty two
to twenty win. But the interesting part about this series,
to your point, is you know, for as often and
frequently as these teams have played, only the third time,
both teams will come into the game ranks since the
late sixties and Navy drawing all sorts of buzz. Great
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see the Service Academy is going out there and competing
at a high level. But you begin to dig into
that resume for Navy and there's some real questions about
who they face for their offense and on the defensive side.
This could be a little bit of a jolt to
the system for him. Navy really starting to round into
shape after the NAU upset, and they're doing so with
decided results, not just trying to slip by by the
skin of their teeth. So when I look at this game,
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I think it's a good by low opportunity for Notre
Dame and to be able to sell Navy stock at
the top of the market. I think the Irish win
and win comfortably, but there's no doubt will create a
very interesting atmosphere of metal Life Stadium on Saturday.
Speaker 5 (09:42):
Shifting to the NFL, one of the games of the week,
Dallas coming off the buy a lot of finger pointing
Jerry Jones and his pressers and radio spots. San Francisco
banged up but a four point favorite at home forty
six the total. Can McCarthy get them off the mat
on the road?
Speaker 4 (10:00):
Expecting all an effort from Dallas in this spot, knowing
they've had two weeks to sit at home and figure
out how to avenge a forty seven to nine loss
against the Detroit Lions and a Dallas team that's three
and zero away from home this year and owen three
at home, but a must win spot of sorts, I'm
not optimistic that they're going to get the services of
Micah Parsons, which is still a massive hole for this team. Defensively,
you look at Dallas on the offensive side, and other
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than Seedee Lamb, not much in the way of game breakers.
But San Francisco dealing with injuries in their own right,
trying to figure out who will or won't be available
at the skill positions for them. Kyle Shanahano has had
Mike McCarthy's number, and I think that's tough for me
to try and get over when I look at this number,
was waiting for it to tick potentially as low as
three if some of those forty nine ers were ruled out.
But earlier today with Deebo Samuel getting in a limited practice,
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number drifted out, and I'll probably be on the sidelines
with the numbers sitting at four and a half and
forty seven here and ideally, you know, from a portfolio standpoint,
would love this game to end in a tie, as
I have both teams under their regular season win total,
So that would be the dream scenario for.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
Me Vegas insider Todd Ferman, and he is on Twitter
at Todd Firman. The links there for the Bet the
Board podcast for the big games in college football on Saturday,
the NFL on Sunday again. Get the link right off
his Twitter page at Todd Furman. Also on Apple as well.
Todd is always buddy appreciated and enjoy the weekend. And
now the Kyle mccordy stop throwing interceptions. I can calm
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down a little bit.
Speaker 4 (11:19):
You know what I heard. He just got intercepted walking
to the bus. So we'll tack a sick and one
on his performance tonight.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
All right, you feel good? You got that. You feel good, Todd?
You feel good?
Speaker 1 (11:28):
All right?
Speaker 3 (11:28):
Great?
Speaker 4 (11:29):
You know what every now and again, I mean, after
Syracuse came in our backyard and took on from the rebels,
I got to take a shot. And Syracuse remains the
great hope to knock off Miami that regular season finale.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
Thanks a bunch, buddy. We'll talk to you day, Todd.
All right, there goes Todd Ferman. Great stuff from Todd.
But now we're going to get into the drama that
just occurred at the end of the Rams win over
the Vikings. The final score was thirty to twenty. Now,
the over under was fifty seven and a half, so
the over under had already hit. So you know this
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this last play, the safety didn't really affect it because
when it was twenty eight twenty we hit the over
under forty seven. Sorry for forty seven in a row.
But the mistake by Cooper Cup we talked about a
few minutes ago not going out of bounds gives the
ball back to the Vikings who have the ball deep
in their own territory. Sam Donald makes a big mistake
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hashtag old Sam a huge mistake by holding onto the
football way too long in the end zone and he
gets sacked for a safety that basically ends the game.
Gave an extra two points, obviously to the Rams, a
game a ten point lead. The Rams got the football back,
they kneeled on it. Bad mistake by Sam Donald, no
matter what you're gonna say, bad mistake by Sam Donald. However,
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a missed face mask call on this play is absolutely
it is unacceptable that the officials were able to miss
this because what it should have been was the Vikings
with the football out up near the thirty yard line,
and instead it was a missed call. And you see
Sam Darnold's neck juke from side to side. There's no
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way you can miss it. It's not a big scrum
in the end zone, and somehow the officials missed it.
Everybody argued it didn't matter. The football went back to
the Rams. They kneeled on it. They win this game
thirty to twenty. I can't wait to see what Kevin
O'Connell is gonna have to say about that coming up
in a bit. But we'll break down everything we saw
tonight why the trade deadline might not be as good
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as it was supposed to be because of what we
just saw as we take a look back at the
biggest Thursday Night game of the year. The Rams save
their season and maybe take everybody off the trade block
as well. Wet more in this game coming up next
right here, We're just getting started. Happy Thursday, Jason and
Mike Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
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Speaker 1 (13:58):
The Jason Smith Show with my best friend Mike Harmon.
Speaker 3 (14:04):
Brok back personally, what a game on.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
Thursday Night Football? The Rams win it thirty to twenty.
They saw they save their Now they save their season.
Speaker 3 (14:14):
Tight shirt. Oh they didn't.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
Yeah, oh they did. They really still they saved their season.
We told you last night. Tonight was high noon for
the Rams. If they win this game, hey we withstood
the injuries and Nakua is back, Cooper Cup is back.
The NFC West is not great. We can pull our
guys off the trade block and we can go and
keep trying to win. But if they lose this game,
you're two and five.
Speaker 3 (14:36):
What are you gonna do?
Speaker 1 (14:37):
Then you're gonna see Cooper Cup get trade you see
other guys on the on the on the trading block.
This was a huge gay was the biggest Thursday night
game of the year because this affects the rest of
the NFL because now other teams now who are gonna
potentially get Cooper Cup, I think are probably out of
the running for it because the Rams win, they beat
a really good Vikings team, and now suddenly everything is
still there for them because they are in the thick
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of it in the NF.
Speaker 5 (15:00):
Well, when we look at the division and what the
forty nine ers are huge tests this week with Dallas
coming out of the bye week home favorites and trying
to get healthy.
Speaker 3 (15:09):
I know Debo went out of his way to tell.
Speaker 5 (15:11):
A young fan, don't worry, I'm gonna be okay, kid,
your fantasy team lives on. But yeah, for the Rams,
the surprise of Puka Dakua. Thought he was maybe still
a week away. Instead he's over one hundred yards. And
then you got Cooper Cup, who was brilliant except for
the one decision that got way too close to the
sideline gets ruled out of bounds, giving the Vikings another chance.
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The other thing, you know is that you can face
mass people with no penalties. That's the other thing we
get coming out of this game. The rules have been amended, well, I.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
Know they've been amended as much as hey, sometimes you
just miss them. The biggest play of the game, which
is what we're going to break down here for a
couple minutes, we got Jay Laser on the way. Soon,
the Rams have a chance to potentially get a first
down and run the clock out on a twelve pass
to Cooper Cup. Cooper Cup makes the big mistake of
getting too close to the sideline. He gets knocked out
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of bounds, and instead of the Rams punting to the
Vikings and the Vikings having about a minute left, they
get the ball with about a minute forty five and
a touchdown in two point conversion sends the game to overtime. However,
that mistake was rendered moot by a mistake that the
officials had. Byron Young gets great penetration on the Vikings
first play from scrimmage, and Sam Donald makes a huge
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mistake not getting rid of the football. There's too much
pressure he is under and too much thinking I'm going
to try to make a play out of it. Sometimes
you just throw the ball away live another day. But
he holds onto the ball a little too long. Byron
Young sacks him for a safety that ends the game. However,
you see the replay, it is a blatant face mask.
Byron Young gets his left hand on the left side
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of Sam Donald's face mask, turns his head to the
side when he sacks in. You can even see Byron
Young right after the sack he goes running away from
Donald with his hands on his helmet like I can't
believe I got his face mask. Except there was no flag.
Referees somehow didn't see this flag. You had the one
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fish of the back. Judges looking right at it, didn't
throw the flag. Kevin O'Connell was upset. Sam Darnald was upset.
He's screaming for a face mask call. And look, it's
a long way to go to say this cost the
Vikings the game because hey, okay, yes, it's a first
down from the twenty five yard line. They still should
have had the chance. It's still seventy five yards away
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to get in the end zone and get a two
point conversion. But you can't miss that call. You can't
miss that call when the stakes are this high, especially
when there's there was no way that you were blocked
from seeing it. There was no it was the bottom
of a scrum. You have to be able to see
this well.
Speaker 5 (17:48):
But that's the thing from where the back judge is like,
even just staring directly at it, it's like the way young
comes flying past him.
Speaker 3 (17:57):
The only way.
Speaker 5 (17:58):
He could have possibly gotten down unless Sam Donald suddenly
became one of those old toys that just falls down
in Turtles, is by grabbing the face mask, because he
doesn't get much contact with the rest of his body,
and you see the violent hook of the way his
helmet and his neck snaps back to the left as
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you're watching it.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
From the end zone. Al Michael said it, well, what
the hell? It offset?
Speaker 5 (18:24):
His other well, it was a slim chance that they
were gonna be able to No you ever mid at
thirty six again, long odds. As you say you're playing,
you've played defense. You're getting some good pressure, Sam Donald.
The numbers are really such a wide swath between clean
pocket and pressured. But you still have the chance. You
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still have justin Jefferson, you still have playmakers. This is
a call that is so obvious as the nose on your.
Speaker 3 (18:50):
Face, right.
Speaker 5 (18:52):
This is just an egregious error by the officiating crew
and the fact that you can't review this, You can't.
Nobody else sees it, like none of the officials. It's
it's so obvious. And you know this this is where
people start getting into conspiratorial.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
He is looking right at us. He's ten yards away
looking at Sam Donald. No no fleck, but.
Speaker 5 (19:16):
He's like directly about two yards to the right. Maybe
you see Donald's face completely turn. So you know we
got a hold of it. You know we didn't get
the jersey because you would would put differently.
Speaker 3 (19:27):
Yeah, I don't know how you missed that car.
Speaker 5 (19:30):
You don't see a hit, You don't see anything like
he does kind of like a drive by and grabs
the face mask.
Speaker 3 (19:36):
Yeah, it's and just for Sam Donald.
Speaker 5 (19:38):
Like if he doesn't grab his face mask and just
flies by because his momentum is gonna carry him past Donald,
he gets another second to maybe throw the ball away,
So he might have still had the opportunity. Doesn't mean
he would have like like you said, doesn't mean they're also.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
Because then another player who was who was close to him.
So even if he slows him down, maybe he gets
tripped up, but it doesn't mean he doesn't ask this call.
And it's think about the NFL, all the all the
the the stop gaps they have put in to make
sure that okay, we'll get this call, we'll get this crossed.
And still how many times we see a call and
go oh yeah, no they can't go back and look
at that one not rule say you can't.
Speaker 5 (20:12):
Go back, can't go back up? Challenge it. Wait really yeap,
that's how it's gonna go be.
Speaker 3 (20:18):
Like he goes to call the safety.
Speaker 5 (20:19):
We're in the middle of finishing up talking like did
I see what did you not see that?
Speaker 3 (20:25):
Yeah? I did safety?
Speaker 1 (20:26):
No the other thing the face max no safety, I
had safety I wanted to make this sound.
Speaker 3 (20:30):
I want to I don't get to do that. I've
never gotten to do that. I never got to call
a safety before. I put my hands over my head
and doing the safety thing.
Speaker 5 (20:37):
The dream of Genie dance while he's at itude gets put.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
My hands together like Dumbledore at the end of the six.
Speaker 3 (20:46):
Phoenix. We're gone, man, I have no intentive going quietly. Yeah,
I make the safety that I've done the safety thing.
That's great. One of the best villains in green and
written history. I don't Dumbledore. Oh yeah, villain? Oh yeah,
villain is a horrible individual. What do you mean you
into that kid? What did you do? Made it?
Speaker 1 (21:06):
He saved everybody? Sorry, spoiled? How many years of therapy
after all?
Speaker 3 (21:11):
That was a lot?
Speaker 5 (21:11):
I mean, I guess you could take the memories out
and just put it in the bottom.
Speaker 3 (21:15):
I don't think you have to worry about therapists. How
about you don't remember any of it?
Speaker 1 (21:18):
Oh yeah, great, we'll take the wet of spell get
out and put it in the pencil.
Speaker 3 (21:21):
We'll be good. Someone finds it later on, going whoa that?
How about no? How about her mind? You having to
do that to her parents?
Speaker 5 (21:27):
Right?
Speaker 3 (21:28):
I'm you're never gonna know I existed. Wait what Yeah, no,
you're never gonna know. Well, we had a good run
and where you go anyway, you're never gonna remember it.
Speaker 5 (21:36):
But this is just an absurd man, And again no
guarantees that they go on a tremendous draw, get.
Speaker 3 (21:44):
The way to go, but you still have to get
it right.
Speaker 5 (21:46):
Matt al Bichaels dis misses it, and Herbstreet immediately goes
hold on, now it's still a first down and the
twenty five like, don't just picturing Amazon executives that don't
know anything you're saying.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
So this was a controversial play. This was really it
was a Oh we had another great game and a
couple of high rated teams that were pretty good. Right
that Sam Arnold is really good? Oh Darnold? Yeah, no,
he's pretty good, isn't he. Yeah, Okay, I'm pretty happy
with what we have so far.
Speaker 5 (22:13):
So bad, I mean, because that's all that they do
a very quick post games like we're out here.
Speaker 1 (22:19):
Yeah, because look, there's there's things to ask for that
are too much. And whatever situation you're in, whether it's
you know, you're playing an NFL game, you want officials
to say what you want decisions to be made to
affect you. The best thing you can say is, look,
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I want what is fair and what is reasonable? Right
they say, They to ask, say, hey, I want this
is a little bit too much. I want you to
favor this. I want you to look for this penalty. No,
but just be fair and be reasonable and and and
it's not unfair or unreasonable to expect that you should
have gotten this call.
Speaker 3 (22:58):
You should have seen this. It's too big a play.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
It's not like, hey, we missed this at the six
minute mark of the second quarter and the Vikings you know, okay,
well it's a bad call, but the Vikings you have
a chance to get back in the game.
Speaker 3 (23:10):
It's in the middle of a scrum or whatever it is,
or whatever.
Speaker 1 (23:15):
Sided the game like this said this took a stamp
and said, no, you have no chance. And that's why
it's a big deal, because calls are going to be
missed over the course of a game. And there is
a big difference from a call that's missed the middle
of the first quarter versus something that's missed inside the
two minute warning, when it's when it's a winner lose
kind of play and this became a winner lose play
because it was we missed the call and as a result,
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the Vikings lost. I don't know if they would have won,
but I know they lost. Like they had no chance
to win the game after this play. You can't miss that.
And I don't know how you're going to look. I'm
sure they're gonna find Byron Young as well. Hey face, man,
if you get fine, mat Yeah, what do I care?
Sean mcvalie go, I'll pay that for you.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
Man.
Speaker 5 (23:55):
We won the game. I don't give a crow. There's
just a hat sitting in the card. There's no explanation.
People just start through on a hundred bucks in each.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
But first, there's so much attention on officiating and umpiring
and and I think leagues have had it with the
complaints that we can't get it more right. Look, you
had Rob Manford on the Dan Patrick Show yesterday say, hey,
the automated strike zone is coming to the MLB in
the next summore years. Yeah, because we want to be
able to get it right. And I don't know if
that means that there's no homeplate umpire anymore. He's got
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to be there for plays in the plate. I guess,
but maybe he sits in the chair just you know,
drinking a little bit. Oh, stay out of the way
on pass.
Speaker 5 (24:29):
I will all asleep like the security guard the Seidefeld
episode after George's lobbies for the chair.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
But it's okay, But but I'm always for Hey, we
have the technology to make something the best it can be.
Speaker 3 (24:40):
All right, that's great.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
Doesn't mean suddenly that the home plate umpires are gonna
get paid less money. Hey, you're not calling them all
the strikesing wars? Are you gonna paid less? But we
have the technology and the ability to get something right.
And this is the same thing is there's got to
be a way to go back and say, hey, we
missed this in such a big way. We got to
get it right. Yeah, you want to get it right
the first time. But the whole thing about putting replays, Hey,
if you miss something, because everybody is human, you want
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to make.
Speaker 5 (25:02):
Sure you get But that's the thing, right, if you
eliminate replay and you go back to the days of
old where we don't have replay, then then fine, that's it.
Speaker 3 (25:11):
Human error is part of the game.
Speaker 1 (25:12):
That could have been an interception by Jay Berwanger, But
they missed that call, but legitimately right.
Speaker 5 (25:18):
But once you actually have the technology in place, you
get it right. The fact that there's still the arm
I don't know, that's a bridge too far. Like, no,
we've already opened the door. We've already walked through. Now
it's just all right, take that thing off the shelf
and let's utilize it to the best of our ability.
That's where we're out with instant replay. And this is
a standalone game because that's the other part Thursday game.
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It resurrects the rams, something we're going to talk about
over the course of the rest of the evening. Left
for dead, everybody's hurt. What's going on. We've seen true
deals across the league, and now a team in Los
Angeles gets a very generous call in a standalone game. Now,
the over under was already hit, as you alluded to before,
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It was either forty seven or forty seven and a half.
I saw it at a forty seven earlier this morning,
so we're already.
Speaker 3 (26:08):
At forty eight. So for that angle, it was already.
Speaker 5 (26:11):
Done already, and we'd already crossed that rubicon and the
vikings were a two and a half point fase.
Speaker 1 (26:17):
And I want to be clear that this is this
was it was still a long way for the Vikings
to win.
Speaker 3 (26:22):
Of course, the Rams probably still would have won. Yeah,
what's the win probability? I don't know.
Speaker 1 (26:27):
It's you're going seventy five yards with no timeouts, which
you could because look in the NFL, if you have
thirty seconds and you get the ball back in your
own end, you have you have a chance to win
the game.
Speaker 3 (26:37):
But you throwing from the goal line, but you gotta
get in the end zone.
Speaker 1 (26:40):
And you gotta get the two point conversion, and and
then you got to win in overtime.
Speaker 3 (26:44):
Right, So there's a long there's a long way to go.
Speaker 1 (26:46):
So it don't take away from I don't want to
take away from the fact the Rams had a huge
w here and they made the plays they should. This
is this is This is more about hey, big moments.
You got to get these calls right.
Speaker 5 (26:58):
But that yeah, that's the thing, right, You can't suddenly
eliminate and take the wind probability to ninety nine point
on a missed call when you have the ability to
just say, wow, that guy just decided he was looking
at something else.
Speaker 3 (27:13):
Yeah, that raft needs the needle, like, but we you
need a needle sound effect, I shirt you can't. He
can't say your needles sounding like that.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
I can't say the guy needs a needs the needle,
and you play a gun sow that that's too No,
it's not a musket, how is it.
Speaker 3 (27:32):
I want to see it coming.
Speaker 5 (27:34):
I'm gonna load it up like it's the Civil War.
But there's an anticipate musket. There's an anticipatory thing to there,
the psychological torture of the muskete being loaded in front
of you.
Speaker 3 (27:45):
To what he actually eyes and fire. Here's the thing.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
If I'm in the Civil War and I'm coming at
a guy and he shoots at me and he misses,
I know he needs like eight minutes to reload that.
Speaker 5 (27:54):
As long as I have a bayonet, I'm feeling better.
That's why they are dead. They're the bayonet at the ends.
Speaker 3 (27:58):
In case you.
Speaker 1 (27:59):
Wanted, Oh I got you, Oh I didn't see the
sort it. Oh you missed, Jason. Can you imagine they
both missed and they're just like, oh you wait till I
reload this thing?
Speaker 3 (28:08):
Like the trash talk, they're just yelling at each time,
watch like this.
Speaker 1 (28:12):
I already got the gunpowder in oh blake your gunpowder match.
Speaker 3 (28:15):
Why it's not even waiting for you at home?
Speaker 5 (28:17):
Was that in history of the world, like your wife
waiting for me to get home for your eleven kids
of mine?
Speaker 3 (28:23):
Oh yeo, yeah, yeah. Remember when you went to Fort
Sumter last year. I wasn't in Fort Sumter.
Speaker 6 (28:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (28:30):
Just wait till this gunpowder's in there. Somebody give me
more gunpowder. I gotta kill this guy. Oh man.
Speaker 1 (28:39):
Time now to find out what's trending in the wide
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Speaker 7 (28:45):
Go ahead, you do not so in the endfl tonight
in Los Angeles, that's Fort Sumter. The Rams beat the
Vikings thirty to twenty. Matthew Stafford four touchdown passes, one interception,
Kyra and Williams ninety seven yards rushing at a TD reception,
and the Rams got their two star wide receivers back
from injury tonight. Cooper Cup had a touchdown five catches
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fifty one yards. Poka Nakua was a surprise active after
the knee injury for much of the year. Seven catches
for him one hundred and six yards. You know, Sam
Darnold had two touchdown passes quickly in this one. First
two drives, so Minnesota on those first two drives one
hundred and forty yards. For the rest of the night,
one hundred thirty six yards of offense, Rams beat Minnesota
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thirty to twenty.
Speaker 3 (29:31):
By the way.
Speaker 7 (29:31):
Vikings tight end TJ. Hawkinson is still out after last
year's torn ACL. He could debut next weekend. That Coltstid
Vikings game was flexed to a Sunday night. Lions wide
receiver Jamison Williams accepted his two game suspension for a
performance enhancer. He called the violation a complete surprise. Kansas
City running back Kareem Hunt returned to full practice from
(29:52):
the hip injury. The Chiefs officially acquired wide receiver DeAndre
Hopkins and placed wide receiver sky More on ir Titans
wide receiver Calvin Ridley miss practice again with a foot injury.
Ravens wide out Zay Flowers miss practice with an ankle injury.
Colt's running back Jonathan Taylor practiced fully. He has missed
three games with a bad ankle. Saints wide receiver Chris
(30:13):
Olave practice fully after a concussion in college football tonight,
Syracuse five and one was playing at nineteenth ranked Pitt
six and zero. Pitt dominated at home forty one thirteen
in fact Syracuse rushing, including the four sacks, twenty nine
carries six yards on the ground, Pitt led thirty one
to nothing at the half, including three pick sixes. Late
(30:35):
Friday night on.
Speaker 1 (30:36):
FO you want a great quick story about this, So
yesterday on eBay, I bid on a Syracuse football hat.
Speaker 3 (30:43):
Okay, seroo was out.
Speaker 5 (30:44):
There for like sign by quarterback for like twenty They
pay you to take those.
Speaker 3 (30:48):
No, no, no, it was like it was no, you know
what it was. It's one of those games the game hats,
like from the nineties. Oh my god.
Speaker 1 (30:53):
Okay, So the hat was up there for twenty eight bucks,
right I came in with a bid and I'm waiting
And I was like, okay, you know I'm waiting because
I bid like.
Speaker 3 (31:02):
Like twenty five on whatever it was.
Speaker 1 (31:04):
And right after the game ended, Right after the game ended,
I got a note from the seller saying, you saw
it at twenty eight dollars, but this person wants to
sell it to you for sixteen dollars.
Speaker 3 (31:16):
Right after the game was over, they cut it down
almost my half. Wow, Hey, I gotta get rid of this.
Speaker 5 (31:21):
No one's gonna want to buy it in there, and
so so I want to get that hat for like
twelve dollars were watching it.
Speaker 3 (31:28):
I saw that you were watching it, but didn't.
Speaker 7 (31:30):
Isn't that that good for the whole athletic department. It's
not just for the football team, right, And there's still
a basketball season.
Speaker 1 (31:36):
There is, there is, But I think after tonight they thought, okay,
maybe maybe maybe maybe that boy Syracuse lost forty one
thirteen to lower the price, lower the fday want to
sell much get wrong there?
Speaker 7 (31:46):
Yeah, late Friday night on Fox TV, USC will host Rutgers.
Speaker 3 (31:50):
Of course.
Speaker 7 (31:50):
World Series starts Friday on Fox. Yankees at Dodgers will
be gin at about eight pm Eastern time. Four games
in the NBA already wins for Dallas and Boston. At
Sacramento mid third quarter, Kings lead Minnesota eighty one seventy
four despite twenty five points from Julius Randall of the Timberwolves.
And the Oklahoma City Thunder are leading mid third quarter
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at Denvers seventy three sixty six. NHL wins for Dallas
and Detroit and US women sucker when it's exhibition against
Iceland three to one in Austin, Texas. You know, the
US women's team has never lost a game when playing
in the state of Texas. Now thirty four and zero,
outscoring opponents there one thirty seven to fourteen.
Speaker 1 (32:31):
Back to you, Thank you, Steve though The Jason Smith
Show with Mike Carmon live from the tirerac dot Com
studios coming up next. More from Thursday Night Football, the
biggest game of the year. Why because so many teams
had a vested interest in the olcome of tonight's game,
and if you were looking to trade for a superstar
wide receiver second half of the season, I don't think
(32:52):
that's gonna happen.
Speaker 3 (32:54):
That's next, right here, Jason to Mike Fox.
Speaker 2 (32:56):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
pm Pacific Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 1 (33:05):
The Jason Smith Show with my best friend Mike Harmon
a lot from the Tirack dot Com studios. We got
Jay Glazer coming up in about twelve minutes. Break down
everything we saw on Thursday Night Football, and boy was
tonight the biggest game of the year. Simply because it
was going to help shape the back half of the
(33:25):
NFL season. You know, we spent a lot of time
on this last night. Vikings Rams great game, right. Vikings
started out really good. Sam Darnold's been a big surprise.
Rams have been disappointing, had a lot of injuries. Cooper
Cup was out, Pukaakua was out, and we told you
that this was the rubber hits, the road game for
the Rams. It was high noon. If the Rams win tonight,
(33:47):
they moved to three and four and they're in the
thick of it in the NFC West, in an NFC
West that is underachieving, and an NFC overall that outside
of the NFC North, there's not a lot of great teams,
so they would stick with it. They're getting their guys back.
Cooper Cup came back tonight, had a touchdown. Puknnakua came
back tonight. He had seven catches for one hundred yards
(34:09):
to night on nine targets. If they won, they would
keep it going. But if they lost, you fall to
two and five, you would see trades. You heard Cooper
Cup's name on the trading block. You might have seen
Matthew Stafford's name out thereafter, and suddenly teams around the
NFL were looking at this game and going, Okay, come on, Vikings,
I really want to go get Cooper Cup. Mike Tomlins watching,
(34:30):
I really want to get Cooper Cup. Jim Harbaugh's going, oh,
I really love to get that Cooper Cup. But we
told you if the Rams win, things are gonna change,
and tuddah, what just happened. I told you we're ahead
of the curve. Sean McVeagh and his postgame press conference
was asked about the Cooper Cup trade rumors. He said, listen,
don't don't believe everything you hear, but he did address
(34:50):
it full on and said, I don't expect Cooper cups
status with us to change. He's going to stay a
member of the Rams, and they why not, because the
NFC is so wide open. Now you're healthy, I picked
the Rams go to the Super Bowl beginning of the
I know I would curse them with all these injuries,
but now you are back to being the Rams. The
forty nine ers are still trying to figure out who
(35:11):
they are. They're still extremely unhealthy. The Cardinals and the Cardinals.
The Seahawks are the Seahawks. They're not bad, but they're
not great. The Rams can still be the best team
in that division and one of the top teams in
the NFC. They've gotten everybody back. They still run the
football really well. I told you that Kyen willm is
gonna have a big night. He ran for ninety seven
yards tonight. The Rams can still be the Rams. This
(35:33):
is now them going forward. And now all the other
teams that were hoping for a shot at Cooper Cup
or other players, you gotta go someplace else. He's staying
around now.
Speaker 5 (35:40):
It helped that his tag team partner because he did
channel the Undertaker talking about rising up and they didn't
really finish off the Rams and put them under that,
you know, with pookin Nakua coming back. All of a sudden,
oh like, it got that much better. For Matthew Stafford.
The fact that he's perfected the fifteen yards drop back
(36:01):
has helped too, because he really he does like the.
Speaker 3 (36:04):
Old video game thing.
Speaker 5 (36:05):
If I'm gonna go all the way back here and
then I'm gonna fire it and it's a cannon shot
to my wide receiver, so yeah, all of a sudden
it opens back up. Kian Williams has been fantastic fantasy
circles certainly know about him. Gets a bit overshadowed in
the national discussion because the passing game gets all the love.
Speaker 3 (36:25):
But he's been consistent.
Speaker 5 (36:26):
They had a couple of games that they should have
won earlier this season that they gave away.
Speaker 3 (36:29):
That game against.
Speaker 5 (36:30):
Chicago, they should have won that game game against Green Bay,
it got away from them a little bit, but they
were in it until late in the third. And then
you go back to the game against Detroit to start
the season, game that could have gone either way. So
now you get back on the schedule. The next date
is at Seattle. Then you got Miami. Well in theory
(36:53):
two US now back, so we'll see if it's a different,
better replenished version of the Dolphins. But then you got
New England, Philly, New Orleans. Like, there's winnable games on
the schedule. Is the point when you start looking down
the road here as long as you stay healthy. But
do I believe that they put some of the stuff
about trades out there that it wasn't just wanting speculation,
(37:15):
Damn right they Oh yeah, hey, you never know, he's
the best in the marketplace.
Speaker 1 (37:19):
Whatever else was going on, Yeah, and you have three
receivers that are young that you really like. Right, Nikua
is huge and mar Lobbinson had two squads today. They
really like Jordan Whittington too. He's a guy coming out
and obviously two two Outwell's a gadget. Guy can catch
a lot of passes. Hey, if we can get by
with this passing game and not have to pay somebody
this money and get a draft pick. I mean, sure,
(37:40):
Cooper Cup is great, you'd want him, but hey, if
our season goes by the boards, we're not going to
come back another year when he's thirty two and a
half years old. Hey, try to stay healthy. Let's try
to figure this out. They certainly were trying to test
the waters for it, but now I'm sure they pull
it all back. It's like in fantasy you put a
guy in the trading block and he gives you twenty
one points. I'm taking him off the trade block, not trading.
Speaker 5 (37:59):
There's somebody else gets hurt, and you say, no, I'm
taking it off. You know, he offer that trade and
immediately rescind it as soon as you see the ankle twist,
knowing that the guy's going to get to his team
and accept.
Speaker 3 (38:10):
It as fast as possible.
Speaker 5 (38:13):
So on the other side from Minnesota, they did lose
darrisa early in this game. To highlight what's going on there,
because that was a big loss on the offensive line.
You saw what the Rams were able to do in
terms of their defensive deployment thereafter. But let's also start
this once again. Sean mcfay is a genius. He's the
smartest guy in the world, and tonight he was better
(38:35):
than Flores.
Speaker 1 (38:36):
Exit out about a Fresca exit swallen down the Jason
Smithson with Mike Carmon Live and the Tyreck dot Com studios.
So many angles coming off this game. It was such
a big win for the Rams and a big loss
for anybody else who wanted to get Cooper Cup. Coming
up next, Jake Lazer the latest on this and all
the big stories in the NFL.
Speaker 3 (38:54):
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