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October 11, 2023 36 mins

With arms wide open, the Rangers punch their ticket to the ALCS. MLB Insider Jon Paul Morosi swings by for all the latest on the NLDS/ALDS. And Jason shares an amazing Barry Melrose.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:23):
You're listening to Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 1 (00:29):
Oh, play a loud for the Rangers.

Speaker 3 (00:31):
Pour one out.

Speaker 1 (00:32):
Jason is locking for a playing right now in the
Rangers locker room.

Speaker 3 (00:37):
My friends in Baltimore gonna blame me.

Speaker 1 (00:39):
Oh, pour one out for Jason. Lockin for a Well,
it is all Mike's fault.

Speaker 3 (00:44):
No blame me. That's okay.

Speaker 1 (00:46):
And now America's hopes are on the Rangers to knock
the Astros out of the playoffs.

Speaker 4 (00:52):
Oh isn't it great that they actually may end up fighting?
I mean, look, the Toys aren't done yet.

Speaker 1 (00:56):
Oh a great series, great alcs. They both hate each other. No,
that's it fighting personal? Awesome. Yeah, that's like Micah Parsons
had to do a whole podcast to make it personal. No,
we know this is personal.

Speaker 3 (01:07):
We talked about that yesterday. How dumb was that?

Speaker 1 (01:09):
Rangels Astros they hate each other. It'll be great, it'll
be great. It'll be great.

Speaker 4 (01:13):
The Range who gets to be Deebo. Now he'll say, hey,
we're waiting for you, Houston.

Speaker 1 (01:18):
The Rangers are into the ALCS. They finish off their
three game sweep of the Orioles, the Orioles who had
not been swept all season long, in fact, not since
Adley Rushman. He is he had never been swept in
his MLB career. And now the Orioles are swept out
of the playoffs by the Rangers. And it is brutals
pretty easy. The Rangers didn't break a sweat. They have

(01:41):
not broken a sweat in the last five games. It's oh, man,
I know the playoffs were this easy. We should go
more often. This is really cool. We should go once
every ten years. This is pretty cool. Everybody says the
playoffs are a grind. It's so difficult. Everybody grows playoff
beards and all kind ah, this is easy, man, We're
in the ALCS. It's like, you know, ready for that now?
Signed a few days.

Speaker 4 (02:01):
Six nothing after two in this one last game it
was nine to two after three. I mean the Oriols
did have the lead, albeit briefly, yeah, before they got bludgeoned.
Did eventually score three in the ninth to make it
look better.

Speaker 3 (02:18):
Eleven eight.

Speaker 4 (02:18):
But my goodness, just a juggernaut right now. Got everything
rolling here, and you're seeing jumping out to quick, fast
leads and then you know, it's like anything you play
from ahead, the strike zone starts to expand guys start
to press. Oh wait, I'm describing other series. Yeah, I
mean just general tenants of baseball. Right, you get ahead,

(02:41):
it's you know, it's the same in every sport. You
get punched in the mouth. Now, you got to change
your approach a little bit. Maybe you get a little
more aggressive, you grip the bat a little bit tighter.
And when you're young, it goes one of two ways.
It's either the hey, you don't know what you don't know,
so you're just playing off in stinked and and your
natural talent and it carries you, or it starts to

(03:04):
get really big for you. And for the Oils, it
looked like it got huge, particularly tonight.

Speaker 1 (03:10):
Yeah. Look we got John Palmerrosi coming up in a bit.
We'll break it all down. What is he see coming
up next. But what I really want to know is
they interviewed Bruce Bochie following the game. We talked about
the the how underrated a manager he has been in
the last twenty years. They put on an Alds Champion
hat on him and I couldn't tell if it was
fitted or if it was if it was a h

(03:33):
adjustable yeah, because I'm like, you, you can't put an
adjustable hat on a guy whose hat size is eight.

Speaker 3 (03:39):
Did you ever do that?

Speaker 1 (03:40):
Hey?

Speaker 3 (03:40):
They gave you a fitted hat that was a little
too small, so.

Speaker 4 (03:43):
You had to cut a little slit with a razor
blade or a paris.

Speaker 1 (03:47):
It was like, I was just I'm gonna wear it
until my head is switched. I can't wear this.

Speaker 2 (03:53):
I can't do it.

Speaker 1 (03:54):
That is too tight.

Speaker 4 (03:56):
We want to talk about getting that. That's that's the
ice cream headache, a whole other age variety.

Speaker 1 (04:01):
They put a hat on Bruce Boach and I'm like,
I got to see the back of that hat.

Speaker 3 (04:05):
I go, there was this forty ninth career U postseason
win two.

Speaker 1 (04:08):
Yeah, do you think if it was if it was
a if it was a snap back. It was just
on the last one, like, just no.

Speaker 3 (04:15):
Absolutely the one on there. Hey, yeah, it's teetering.

Speaker 4 (04:17):
It's kind of like a belt where now you give
him an extra half size. All right, you take a
screwdriver or whatever implement you have or laying around to
try to I'm gonna use this knife. What's gonna happen.
I'm gonna end up cutting my finger. But I need
a little extra hole in this belt because I've either
gained or lost weight.

Speaker 3 (04:35):
Let's go.

Speaker 1 (04:35):
Now he's wearing the hat. He's walking around the field.
Now he's with the fed. The hat is not falling
off him or anything. Maybe maybe they made him they
custom made the hat. Oh they cut away from it.

Speaker 4 (04:44):
Come on, man, custom made, custom paid, custom fit.

Speaker 1 (04:48):
I don't need to see a rod. And he was
about to turn the corn. We're gonna see the back
of Bruce Bochi's head and said, now a rod.

Speaker 3 (04:53):
Is talking about me.

Speaker 4 (04:54):
He's got a deal where you can't.

Speaker 3 (04:57):
Show on the back of my cat, show the back
of my head.

Speaker 1 (04:59):
But an with a hat can't show it, can't show it.

Speaker 4 (05:02):
Ah.

Speaker 1 (05:02):
But yeah, so hey, they made that hat for Bruce Bochi.
That's where like if I was I would go, hey, look,
they already got Boachie's hat made. Let's go out and
take this celebration and tell him to stick it. They
got Boachi's hat all ready to go. Oh, let's make
them save that hat. But they couldn't do it.

Speaker 4 (05:18):
You realize dude has managed over forty fifty games in
his curer.

Speaker 1 (05:24):
I know, Jason. Yeah. Do you think they're gonna drink
from his hat like it's the Stanley Cup because it's
so big. No, I think they're all going to swim
in it. That's like it's a Diamondbacks pool. Oh, they're
gonna show me Chumpbochie jump boch Oh my god, it's
a sense a snapback?

Speaker 3 (05:37):
Oh my gow isywhere here it is a way?

Speaker 1 (05:40):
There's no way that is a special snapback hat because
he's got it on like four snaps. There's no way
on the top of his head.

Speaker 3 (05:47):
Yeah, no, exactly.

Speaker 4 (05:48):
He's not pulling that down, right, I mean that's the
thing he just said, on top of his head.

Speaker 1 (05:53):
Yeah, but it's still like, it still looks a hell
of a lot better than I thought it would. Like
he's spraying.

Speaker 3 (05:57):
Champagne now all over the town a little bit.

Speaker 1 (05:59):
Look at that. Oh man, Well, there are the Rangers
first appearance in the Alcs since twenty eleven. Again, we'll
have more on this coming up in about fifteen minutes,
but today was the day for NFL injuries to go.
Oh my goodness, Oh my goodness. We talked about Justin
Jefferson and what that means for the Vikings and Kirk
Cousins of the Jets or someone else last hour, but today,

(06:22):
the most exciting new player in the NFL, Devon Hhen,
is going to miss multiple weeks with a knee injury,
and according to ESPN's Adam Schefter, he is a candidate
for injured reserve, which means you have to miss at
least four games. Mike McDaniel telling reporters that he was
being evaluated further for a knee injury he got hurt
in the win over the Giants, but he has not

(06:44):
talked about the severity of it or what testing was done.
So we're gonna wait. But right now he is expected
to miss multiple weeks with a knee injury, and I'm
gonna say something here in my Carmon can hit you
right between the eyes of this, You're ready hit me.
Devon han missing the next few weeks could be on
ir the NFL will be without the twenty twenty three

(07:05):
MVP to this point for the next month.

Speaker 3 (07:08):
That's bold. He's not He's not a quarterback, So no
good A year.

Speaker 1 (07:12):
Now, nobody, nobody has been a difference maker like him.
The guy's averaging twelve yards of carrots, that twelve yards
of carry.

Speaker 4 (07:21):
But two is running the offense to outside of the
Buffalo game has been good, he's been efficient. They've put
up pinball numbers.

Speaker 1 (07:30):
Yeah, two has been fine. No, two has been good.

Speaker 3 (07:32):
No.

Speaker 4 (07:32):
Look, I agree with your logic, but I also have
to remind you the dopes that vote for this aren't
voting for a running back.

Speaker 1 (07:40):
His last three games eleven for one fifty one, eight
for one oh one, eighteen for two oh three. I
remember he was hurt coming into the year. This is
where he took him a little while to make his debut. Sure,
but I mean, if you're talking about who's the difference
maker in the league because quarterbacks right now, yeah, to him,
maybe is the only guy that I could say, Okay,

(08:01):
nobody has had the impact that Ahan has had. Nobody
everything you want to vote for, most impacts, it's all speed, speed, speed, speeds,
bits all his this. I mean, this guy is doing
something nine guys like that. No, yeah, but twelve yards
of carry, Mike, not five yards of carry again, not
five point five yards of carry, twelve yards of carry.

(08:21):
And it's not like he's got like six carries in
a game, seven carries in a game. No, he's got
a heavy ish workload. Eighteen eleven. He's carrying the ball
a ton. He's twelve yards of carry. There's nobody like
him the Dolph. Look the Dolphins last year, they were
a really good team, right, but they they fell short
a bit, and now they get the missing piece, which
is here's a running back that nobody can cover. Right,

(08:44):
And we saw the Dolphins play pretty well last We
saw it to have played pretty well last year.

Speaker 3 (08:47):
This is an entire He had.

Speaker 4 (08:49):
The same numbers through three weeks, the first three weeks
as everybody wanted to crown him as he did last
year before he got hurt.

Speaker 1 (08:57):
This is an entirely new level for the for the Dolphins.

Speaker 3 (09:00):
Love this guy.

Speaker 4 (09:00):
Right, you got runs of sixty seven, fifty five, and
seventy six already, so I mean there's almost two hundred
of those four hundred and sixty yards and he's a
game changer, there's no question. I'm just reminding you of
the league we're talking about now. If it's Mike and
Jason's award. You know, we have our pyramid of suck

(09:20):
or whatever we want to call it for the bad
teams and bad players, because everybody does MVPs and top fives,
So I mean we're really treading into just the sheepish territory.
But when we talk about MVPs, I would love to
give it to somebody else. I would love to give
it to Christian McCaffrey. I would love to give it
to your guy a Chan, because that's what we have
to call him now.

Speaker 3 (09:41):
But I'm a realist.

Speaker 4 (09:42):
MVP odds right now, I mean, you could get better
odds right now on Gino Smith. He's one hundred to one.
Your guy eight Chan right now, one hundred and fifty
to one.

Speaker 1 (09:53):
Well now, well now he's gonna be Yeah, but this
is before the Oh I'd have gone in on that.
Are you kidding?

Speaker 3 (10:00):
You can't?

Speaker 1 (10:00):
Can you imagine the guy he has a year, he
averages eight yards of carry and he runs for like
two thousand. He'd be the MVP.

Speaker 3 (10:06):
Wow, if he goes for two thousand yards.

Speaker 4 (10:08):
There's no quarterbacks of projecting this is gonna happen for
a full year.

Speaker 1 (10:11):
No, well, now you know it's not because he's hurt, right,
even but.

Speaker 3 (10:14):
Even if he didn't get hurt, Come on, we know
better than that. I know.

Speaker 1 (10:18):
But saying, but we're talking about through now, through the
first five leeks for the NFL season, nobody's been bigger,
more important, more valuable than a chance. I mean, no
one's done anything like this. And you talk about an
offense today, it's pretty good. No, this offense is averaging
thirty five points a game. Not even in the heyday
of the Greatest Show on Turf did they put points
up like this. What we're seeing is is like generational,

(10:41):
and the big change of the team was, Hey, here
comes a guy in that's that's five nine a little
bit smaller. So, yes, the Dolphins do have to worry
about limiting his workload a bit. You can't give the
ball twenty times a game, but it doesn't matter because
you want to throw the ball a lot more because
you got to be able to throw the ball to
Tyreek Kill and jenlen Waddall needs his touches too.

Speaker 4 (10:57):
But for someone like this look of invisibility on a bunch.
He's heart a bit too, but yeah, no, I love
your a chand absolutely I'm just you know, bringing you
back into uh you know this earth.

Speaker 1 (11:11):
Oh well, look, the voters are going to vote. But
what I'm telling you is, right now, through the first
five weeks he's the MVP. Of course, there's quarterbacks having
want dundee, I get a dundee because you look at
some of the seasons the quarterbacks are having and quarterbacks
are you know, you've got quarterbacks having good seasons like
always to it. Maybe the only guy there's a quarterback

(11:31):
I can say right now?

Speaker 4 (11:33):
All right, yeah, you know you know who the favorite is, right,
Zach Wilson. Come on, now, that's not even funny. It's Mahmes.

Speaker 1 (11:45):
Of course he is, of course he is. And but
it's not like Mahomes is having a great season. So
it looks not like a lot of guys who are
going to win are having great season.

Speaker 5 (11:53):
Right.

Speaker 1 (11:53):
Look.

Speaker 5 (11:54):
C J.

Speaker 1 (11:54):
Stroud is off to a great start, but is he
really gonna win MVP? You know, the Texans are just
gonna be okay, best, right, you guys out to good see,
you know, Kirk Cousins is having a great year, but
is he gonna win MVP? So you get traded the
Jets the deadline, right, and so you have good the
guys that are having good years. You have to combine
playing well with hey, we're gonna be there doing something
over the course. And there's not a lot of quarterbacks there.

Speaker 4 (12:15):
Right, here's your top guys as of right now, really quickly,
Mahomes Tua Party Hurts, Alan McCaffrey, Herbert Lamar, and then
Trevor Lawrence.

Speaker 1 (12:26):
And then Where'szach Wilson And Zach Wilson's right there? And
Allen and Zach Wilson.

Speaker 3 (12:31):
Stats for days. No, he's down down a.

Speaker 4 (12:34):
Ways and Zach Wilson still looking for him. Zach scrolling,
They'll scrolling. Zach attack is not there.

Speaker 1 (12:41):
Joe Namath has more better odds than Zach Wilson does.

Speaker 4 (12:45):
Anyway, go up, put in your claims first for Ahmed
and eventually Jeff Wilson Junior comes back.

Speaker 1 (12:52):
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Speaker 3 (13:14):
MVP Jason's MVP.

Speaker 1 (13:16):
Coming up next, John Paul Morosie stops by MLB Network Insider.
What is next? Can the Rangers be stopped? Can the
Astros be stopped? Are the Braves headed to the NLCS?
Can the Dodgers win a game? Can the Dodgers not
give up a running the first inning? There's so many
big topics to get to. It's next right here, Jason
and Mike Fox.

Speaker 2 (13:35):
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Speaker 1 (13:43):
Sports Radio The Jason Smith Show with My best friend
Mike Harmon. Yes, we Nickelback and Creed to celebrate the
Rangers tonight. You gotta listen to the whole showy, sure,
uh this is Nickelback, Yes, this is Nickelback, Jason, how
is Nickelback playing Nickelback celebrating the Rangers? They have nothing
to do with the Rangers. That's the same mansion, It's

(14:04):
the same man. Trust me, when we play the game later,
you will understand. Okay, I'm gonna play the game later.
We watched the Rangers head into the ALCS. The Astros
are one win away, so are the Diamondbacks. With us
now in the hotline to break it all down MLB
Network insider extraordinaire and granted he is now brand new

(14:25):
Lions insider John Paul Morosi. He's on Twitter at John
Morosi's with us now.

Speaker 5 (14:31):
What's happening JP, I'm doing well, gentlemen. I do expect
the Lions winning street to continue. We will get to
that probably later on in our conversation. But who would
have expected the Texas Rangers one of the last teams
in They are the first team to lead Championship Series,
their first LCS appearance since twenty eleven, and as I

(14:54):
mentioned earlier today, in their most recent ALCS game, the
losing pitcher was a young right hander from the Tigers
named Max Scherzer, so we may see Max schurzera. Guys,
they have not even lost a playoff game yet after
stumbling to the end, so quite a story for Bruce

(15:17):
Bochie and the Rangers right now.

Speaker 1 (15:19):
You know, And that's what I can't get past JP,
is that here all the time, Well, these injuries hurd us.
These injuries hurt us. Injuries hurders the two biggest guys
that the Rangers went and spent hundreds of millions of
dollars on. They've gotten nothing from Degram, They've gotten nothing
from Scherzer, who may not pitch again that we don't
know if he's gonna come back. And here they are
still and may even break a sweat. JP's they must

(15:40):
think baseball is easy in the playoffs. It's all we
had so far. Five games we watched, the Orioles, tried
out a bunch of guys who were thirteen years old pitching.
It's all worked out for us. I mean, this was
an insane run. I can't get over what they've been
able to accomplish.

Speaker 5 (15:54):
It's been remarkable. And now, of course, by sweeping, we
will put this rest versus rust a conversation to the
test in a new way because now within the al Playoffs,
the Rangers that they're going to be sitting down for
a number of days before the ALCS begins on the weekend.
So that's one thing they must now contend with. But

(16:14):
this is a team that at their best, and they've
gotten back to being their best, I think largely because
Seeger has been really impactful, obviously Mitch Garver with the
Grand Slam. It's been a lineup that is a one
through nine kind of a lineup, and they call up
Evan Carter. He ends up batting ninth for a lot
of the time, then he gets moved up to the

(16:35):
middle of the lineup here for Game three. They just
have a lineup that is so consistent, so deep. Honestly,
it reminds me a bit of the lineup they had
back in twenty eleven when Nelson Cruz was winning the
ALCS MVP batting seventh because they had Michael Young and
Belchray batting ahead of him, so and Kinsler as well

(16:57):
at that time in Hamilton. So this is a really
really deep lineup one through nine. The bullpen remains a concern.
Chapman again was inconsistent, but they just seem to outslug
their concerns about the relief pitching and at some point
they're gonna have to figure that out, but that time

(17:17):
has not arrived yet. The first five games of what's
been a dominant run through the American League playoffs.

Speaker 4 (17:23):
So for the Orioles, a fun run a lot of
young players, you gain the valuable experience, I guess that's
what you try to take out of it. But also
recognizing that in that division, you know, there's no guarantees
you're getting back anytime soon. Running out all these young
pitchers seem.

Speaker 5 (17:40):
To do them in right, Mike, it's a very good point,
and I do think that this is a team that
probably needed to make a more impactful trade deadline move.
Of course, they did acquire Jack Flaherty, his impact was
relatively minimal. There were other guys that did change teams,

(18:00):
or maybe others that could have changed teams, you know,
how aggressively. Could they have made a play for a
Mitch Keller in Pittsburgh. Would Edward and Rodriguez have considered
moving to Baltimore when, of course he he said no
to the trade to the Dodgers. There's a lot of
what ifs there, and I think that, Mike, the point
that you make is really important. How many times have

(18:23):
we covered and talked about a team that looked like
they were on the start of something and it became
a lot harder for them to come back the following
year if the pitching doesn't quite respond. I do think
this the Orioles are going to have to really address
their rotation, either via free agency and spending some money there,

(18:45):
or taking some of their young group of position players
and potentially moving them for an impactful, younger starting pitcher.
But this level of talent on the position player side
is so great that you're going to have to round
it with more talent on the pitching side to make
sure that you balance out your club. But this team

(19:06):
has all the hallmarks of being a team that we
see a lot at this time of year for a while.
But as Mike, as you point out, in the American
League East, you never know. Did the bread Sox make
a big play with the new GM the Yankees, they're
only one year away from having been to the ALCS
a year ago Tampa Toronto. They're both really good ball clubs,

(19:26):
so yes, so many things lined up this year. They'll
have Jackson Holiday next year, we believe, but they're still
in one of the toughest divisions that we see in
Major League Baseball.

Speaker 1 (19:36):
An Only Network insider John Paul Morosi with us The
Jason Smiths with Mike Carmon Livethtyreck dot Com Studios. All right, jap,
let's get to the series that everybody is still saying,
what the hell is going on? Diamondbacks go for the
sweep tomorrow night. Lancelynn, who gave up forty thousand home
runs this year, is going to try to stop the
skid for the Dodgers. And there's a lot of ways
to go with this. Yes, you know, Bets and Freeman

(19:58):
aren't hitting, but just watch the Dodgers. They their body
language is really bad. They look they look tight. The
pitchers every time they come out of a game they
have something to say to Dave Roberts. This has been
a common theme over the course of the past two games.
They just don't seem like they're in a great headspace
right now. This is not the same team he watched

(20:19):
all year with doubles and dancing and the pressure is off.
If anything, they look like the pressure is on them
even more. I just don't like how they've been how
they've been going around. Freddie Freeman's having bad at bats.
Last night in the seventh inning, a ball he normally
hits their left center field for a double he pulled
for a ground out for a double play. They just
don't seem like they're in a great headspace right now.

Speaker 5 (20:41):
I think you're spot on, and it is it is hard,
first of all, to have fun and to have energy
when you don't pitch well, and they have not. When
you think about it, the Dodgers have not taken an
at Matt yet in this series, either tied or ahead.
They've never had a lead, and they've been staring at

(21:01):
significant deficits from the first inning all series long, and
each of the first two games, so they've never had
a chance to have that swagger that we're talking about here.
And you're exactly right in terms of the body language.
I would say that when you're down by large amounts
and you're a proud team with a lot of veteran players,
it's hard to look young and energetic in that circumstance.

(21:23):
And I think it's important to point out here for
the Dodgers, they are facing a younger starter in Game
three and Brandon Fotto who did not go deep in
his start in the earlier round in the wild card round,
so they should be able to have success and if
all of a sudden they're able to get the FOT
in Game three, then maybe they get some momentum going.

(21:46):
Maybe that Alps lance Lynn settle In, he was in
the very same ballpark, had a huge start for Team
USA at the World Baseball Classic in March when they
needed to win there. So I think it's entirely possible
that the Dodgers bounce back and find a way to
win Game three. It's it's it's also very difficult to
predict anything in the in the postseason. But if you

(22:06):
look at this and say, Okay, you've got a team
that has not had success, that has a tremendous track record,
They've been off for two games, they get an off
data travel, they're now on the road, different hitting background,
different everything. It's they're now the underdogs in a certain sense.
They're they're facing a younger starting pitcher, Mookie and Freddi

(22:27):
will batt in the first inning. There's a lot of
potential there if you just look at the game in
isolation to say they should bounce back. They should bounce back,
they should find a way to win game Game three.
So we'll see. I'm not gonna declare that the Dodger
season is over yet, there's still a lot of baseball
left to be played.

Speaker 4 (22:46):
I like that, the optimism, as it were. But you know,
because sky is falling, radio is better radio. Why why
can't Mookie Bets hit in October?

Speaker 5 (22:56):
Well, that's fair. I mean, he did, of course hit
well enough to to win a World Series with the
Red Sox and eighteen, and then and then again in
twenty of course, and then he was, as I recall it,
an MVP there in the LCS level, almost opposite of
course Segret ended up getting it, but he'd he played
at that level. I think that Mookie, You're right, he's

(23:19):
been off, maybe pressing a little bit, But I heard
his comments after Game two, and I think he's saying
the right things. That he's taken responsibility. Hey, I've got
to be better not making excuses. It's been a long year.
He's had a lot of that bats, a lot of
played appearances. And this is where it's difficult sometimes to
know everything that a player is going through. At the

(23:41):
stage of the year, no one's really one hundred percent.
And this might be, guys, a real evidence of the
way that youth is showing up in a huge way
in these playoffs. In different ways. Again, Baltimore's got a
very young group and they just got knocked out today.
But I think Arizona, whether it's Carol, they have just

(24:02):
a really youthful, energetic group. Per Domo plays a ton
of energy, Gabriel Moreno has played with a ton of energy,
so there's a certain edge that they play with. They're
making names for themselves. They're really showing who they are
now on the grand stage, and it's tough, I think,
to compete with that level of energy and emotion. So

(24:25):
now it's just a matter of harnessing it. It's a
little bit more challenging to do it when you're at home.
For example, the d Backs, now that they'll be playing
at home for the first time this entire postseason, do
they start feeling some pressure now with their home fans
behind them. So a lot of questions that we don't
have answered yet, and I'm not yet prepared to say
that the Dodgers are done yet.

Speaker 1 (24:46):
You know, the one thing we were talking about this
last hour, JP what I really miss in the playoffs,
and it's not coming back just because of the way
the game is, is that I really miss the Hey,
this pitching matchup with two aces, like we don't have
that anymore. Like I remember looking forward to that so
much in the nineties and the early two thousands, but
with so many teams getting in now you need to

(25:07):
pitch to the final day of the season. You can't
line up your rotation. Plus you know, there's not nearly
as many aces as they were in the pass. You
got bullpen games in game two of divisional series. Now
I really missed that. I really miss that, Hey, this
is going to be to Grom versus Kershaw in game one.
We can't wait and that and that's that sucks for
baseball because when those games were there, it was, hey,

(25:27):
this is must CTV to see these guys that we
watched throw zeros and strike everybody out all season long.
And I just don't see those days coming back. And
it's just kind of hit me with this player with
this playoff, like, yeah, here's all these pitchers and and
Kershaw getting hit so hard, like we're not going to
see that.

Speaker 5 (25:43):
Again, right well, And I think you're very correct. I
go back ninety nine that the Pedro Clemens game that
was still talked about, honestly still has talked about in
New England. All these years later because of the results
and the lopside of winning for the Red Sox, even
though the Yankees won the series. But you're right, it
used to be how we talked about postseason baseball, and

(26:04):
I just think the game has evolved. I agree with you,
we're missing it. The game will probably never quite go
back to it. But I do think that it's incumbent
on us. People that talk about the game, share the game,
are involved in broadcasts. There are a lot of great
storylines that are that unfold during the course of a
game that don't pertain to the starting picture. Relief pictures

(26:26):
have their own journey. Many of them are are really
unique or a rapid rise through the farm system, as
you're seeing with Kirkering with the Phillies. Jose Alvarado is
a great personal story. There are some pretty unique people
and characters who make up the tapestry of the bullpen,
and I think you're right. We tend to and we've

(26:47):
all done it. You fixate a lot on who's going
to start. There's a chance that Brandon Fought isn't even
out there in the third inning in Game three tomorrow,
and even if things don't and that's even true if
if things are mostly going according to plan for the Diamondbacks,
that they're going to manage that, I think aggressively after
having an off day today. So I think you're spot on.

(27:09):
It's we have moved to a different era of the game.
We're missing something, yes, but I hope that we are
smart enough as baseball people to realize what we're still seeing,
which is the relief pitching game, and how all of
that ends up unfolding.

Speaker 3 (27:25):
All right, Lions this week, JP, what are we feeling Yon's.

Speaker 5 (27:30):
Buckingeers, The Lions go down to Tampa. Of course, the
stadium right across the street from where the Yankees playing
is pre treating. So I've been to that stadium more
often than many NFL stadiums. This Sunday, the Lions of
Coach and Dan Campbell will prevail by account of thirty
one to seventeen. It'll be thirty coming off to.

Speaker 4 (27:52):
Buy and where in the cream circles you're calling for
the Buccaneers to get smoked to hot.

Speaker 5 (27:57):
Take by j Yeah, thirty one bucks seventeen the Bucks
so that they're actually throwing there, they're using their throwback uniforms.

Speaker 3 (28:06):
Yes, they come back.

Speaker 5 (28:08):
Yeah, all right, well, that's like back in the era
of John McKay, who, as I recall it was not
as successful in Tampa as he was at USC. Is
that correct?

Speaker 1 (28:18):
That's correct? Is playing quarterback for the Bocks on.

Speaker 5 (28:21):
That very or that there was a guy who played
at Michigan. He played briefly, he played for a little
bit in New England, and he played briefly in Tampa.
I don't think he's playing anymore though still I believe
he's still hosting a podcast, but no longer playing. I
believe that's correct.

Speaker 3 (28:38):
Is is that true as.

Speaker 5 (28:41):
Of today? By the way, a quick story for you.
We were before Michigan's first game of the year, probably
the most, the boldest and the most inside joke of
all tailgate flags that one could ever imagine. There was
one May's May's lettering against a blue flag that said

(29:02):
Henson was better.

Speaker 3 (29:07):
Sign him up for sports talk radio or television.

Speaker 1 (29:11):
Hey, get him on Stearnsey and the Pope. Get him
on your show.

Speaker 5 (29:15):
He'll be a top guest debut episode called Let's Let's
make a trade on the air. We're probably gonna call it.

Speaker 1 (29:24):
He's on Twitter at John Morossi that it's at John
Morosi MLB Network insider. He will join us again tomorrow
night to break down the playoffs JP Until tomorrow, my friend,
we'll talk to you.

Speaker 5 (29:35):
Love you guys, always love the conversation. Thanks for everything.

Speaker 3 (29:37):
See you, Pope. We're gonna make it.

Speaker 1 (29:39):
Let's make a trade on the air with a guy
that's running the Mets.

Speaker 4 (29:43):
Let's talk to John out there at Poughkeepsie.

Speaker 1 (29:46):
What do you think Let's make a trade. What do
you have for David Sterns running the Mets? What do
you have?

Speaker 2 (29:51):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
pm Pacific.

Speaker 1 (29:58):
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the lines? After this is read at read between the lines.
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(30:20):
Gotta celebrate the Rangers somehow.

Speaker 3 (30:21):
No one needs that?

Speaker 1 (30:23):
Oh I think we do? No that we do? Now
we need we need we need that.

Speaker 3 (30:26):
It's into that and we do Rangers trivia to get
some Eric Sodder.

Speaker 4 (30:29):
Home, Eric Fodder home, some Richie Zisk something. I'm getting
guys that played for the White Socket.

Speaker 3 (30:36):
Yeah, sure if.

Speaker 1 (30:37):
They play both Jeff Burrows and he played both teams.
We have a we have to remember an absolute legend
here today stepping away and retiring after an incredible forty
plus year career UH in hockey and for ESPN, Barry Melrose,
who is diagnosed with Parkinson's. He is retiring from working.

(30:58):
He said in a statement today. He thanked everybody he
worked with over the course of the past thirty plus years,
basically at ESPN, and now I'll be cheering from the
stands as he fights the fight of his life with
living with Parkinson's. And it's great to see all the
outpouring of what people were saying about Barry Melrose because

(31:21):
he was a fun and a really good guy. And
I worked with him for a couple of years on
NHL tonight when when I was at ESPN in the nineties,
and you know, I'll tell you a couple of things
I remember. I'll tell a couple of really fun stories
about him. But the one thing that was always great
about him was that you go into a Rundown meeting
and it's a bunch of you know, production assistants and
scial producers. You're all like twenty two, twenty four, twenty

(31:43):
five years old, and you're you know, it's your ideas
that are putting together for the show that night. You
had a couple of producers who were sitting there who
were probably thirty and in their early thirties. And then
you have Barry Melrose and Bill Pedo or Kenny Mann.
You know, Barry Melrose is like, you know, almost fifty
and you know he's in his forties. And this guy
accomplished so much and here he is in a room
with a bunch of kids, you know, planning out a show,

(32:04):
and because that's how it is, and that's how it
still is at ESPN. And he was always interested in
what you had going on. Like I would say, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, no,
remember I'm off on Monday. I'll be in. I'll be
in on Tuesday. And he would go, oh, oh dud, Jason,
you got you had a holiday? I said, yeah, I got,
I got a little vacation I'm going on. And he
was him. It was Barry Mill the whole holiday, holiday holiday,

(32:26):
It was him who taught me the difference between holiday
and vacation. He would say, when you're going for a week,
it's vacation. When you go for a couple of day,
it's a holiday. It's a holiday. Where are you going
on holiday? And I'll say, Oh, I'm gonna go to
Newport my girlfriend and I'm gonna go. Oh that's great,
have a good time, go here. He was always interested
in what everybody else had going on. He would say,
oh yeah, oh yeah, I didn't I didn't know. Oh
you go. Your sister's getting married. Oh boy. And he

(32:46):
was always that guy. He would always be interested in
what you had going on in your life. And this
is a guy who, look, he's an analyst, and he's
he's the one that can walk in and go, yeah,
I want to talk about this, this, this, this, and this,
and I'm gonna leave and he and he was that
kind of guide. He was He was so much fun
and it made the meeting easier. And you knew you
could go to him with ideas, Hey, Barry, what if
we did this? What if we did this?

Speaker 5 (33:04):
Is?

Speaker 1 (33:04):
Oh yeah, sure, sure sure he was I'll tell you.
He was a lot of fun to work with. And
I really dig what I'm what I see her. But
he's saying that about him today.

Speaker 4 (33:12):
Yeah, I think the lasting memory is I mean, he
talked about the game, the passion of the game, not
to talk down to you, because remember, you know, hockey's
on one of those sports where if you're not keen
and you add an s on final, you're you're discredited immediately, right,
You're either in or you're out in terms of that circle.

(33:33):
And it's you know, just they're protective of the sport,
much like soccer people are. And I think that's with anything, right,
the little bit of gatekeeping that goes. Whereas Barry Melrose
was pretty much, hey, everybody, come on in, it's a
party and let's talk about it. Let's celebrate the greatness.
They did a great voiceover thing from Wayne Gretzky and

(33:54):
it was introduced by Steve Levy and Levy trying to
talk through his part, I mean, obviously getting very emotional.
His friend, his colleague guy he's spent many a night with,
you know, on air and entertaining folks for years. Uh,
you know, he got choked up, and then Gretzky kind
of walking you through it's a coach into his his

(34:16):
tenure at ESPN, and just what a guy he was
as a coach, and then taking that energy, that excitement
for the game and and being one of the great ambassadors.
I mean, there's there's few guys you know outside of
you know.

Speaker 3 (34:32):
A hockey fan, right.

Speaker 4 (34:33):
You know when we talked about hockey fan as a
guy that used to do trading card shows a lot.
Growing up, you had guys that collected a bit of everything,
and then you'd have a couple of guys that were
hockey fans and the only they were gonna spend any
money on was hockey.

Speaker 3 (34:47):
So if you had hockey, they were coming to talk
to you.

Speaker 4 (34:50):
But you know, it's just that that kind of excitement
and enthusiasm for the game. Never had a chance to
meet the guy, but certainly a fan of the work
and and.

Speaker 3 (35:00):
You know that energy that he brought. We try to
channel a little of that here each night.

Speaker 1 (35:04):
You know, the thing that he did and in the
best analysts, I don't know that they can do it,
is that he was hockey. He brought hockey and explained
hockey in such an accessible way to a generation of
people that anybody could understand it. You know, it's not. Well,
here's a guy. I'm gonna talk about what went on
with this and I'm gonna break down the game film

(35:25):
this way and this way. He was able to explain
hockey and explain trades and explain ti raids and controversies
in a way that everybody got it and it helped.
It helped as much as it could make hockey as
mainstream as it could with ESPN. I'll argue that there's
been no bigger person to push the sport of hockey
in the last thirty years in Barry Melrose. Everybody, even
if you're not a hockey fan, you know who he is.

(35:47):
Nobody pushed the sport him and it's gonna be a
huge loss and all my best thoughts to him, but
you think about that kind of impact. That's the impact
he had on the sport was he was able to
make that accessible to a generation of people for over
thirty years. Not many guys could do that.

Speaker 3 (36:02):
And we all celebrate a mullet because of him.

Speaker 1 (36:05):
Oh yeah, oh man, oh hey, oh you want a
great Do you want a great?

Speaker 5 (36:09):
No?

Speaker 4 (36:09):
But legitimately, though, I'll tell you Tim and Eddie Oulchik.

Speaker 3 (36:12):
For there, the two guys, right I mean, that's it.

Speaker 1 (36:15):
Hey, we got a big story on the Cowboys coming up.
But I'll also tell you a great story about Barry
Melrose and his mullet and cursing on the air.

Speaker 3 (36:24):
Let's go.

Speaker 1 (36:25):
That's coming up next. Right here, Jason and Mike, you're
listening to Fox Sports Radio.

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