July 24, 2025 • 42 mins
Mike Harmon and Dan Beyer how Trevor Lawrence can turn things around with Jaguars new HC Liam Coen. Will Anthony Richardson win the Colts QB1 spot over Daniel Jones?And Dan shares a great Justin Verlander story!
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Gratings.
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Welcome in.
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Second half of the show begins disco ball, still down,
Marching bands on the field. Yeah, go through your entire
down McClain song if you need to. The day the
music guide there, I punctuated it for you. Jason Smith
Show with Me Mike Carmon. No Jason Smith this week
off gallivanting in Detroit, if you have a line on
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a Muskrat dinner, or you're hanging out at.
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A White Castle.
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If you want to be paparazzo, you'll probably run into
him at some point wearing some sort of Mets, Jets
or Syracuse gear.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
If that's out your thing, then just.
Speaker 4 (01:08):
Turn up the radio a little louder as Dan Buyer's
in his stead joining me my weekend partner, Fox Sports
Sundays as well as the I Launcher Flex podcast. You
hear him during the week on the Doug Gottlieb Show,
Cavino and Richie's at the news desk in part an
integral part of what they do each and every day. Dan,
good to have you in.
Speaker 5 (01:25):
I love being in different settings. Sun is down, it's nighttime.
Usually when we're together on a Sunday morning, the sun
is bright, or as we like to do with the
podcast Fantasy Football launching every Tuesday after the weeks with
our new episodes. Obviously love preseason episodes, but good to
get a little night flavor tonight.
Speaker 3 (01:46):
It gets a little loose.
Speaker 4 (01:47):
I mean, go back to last hour some of the
conversation with Jason Cole making sure annunciation addiction was currently
fully on point, with a couple of the Q and
a portions thereof you'll get that podcast at the end
of the show once Justin puts that together. Our executive producer,
Justin and of course Alex tie Shirt on the ones
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of two's Monsey at the news desk and working in
the back. We've got Ian and Brandon making it all
sound so pretty Listen.
Speaker 5 (02:16):
I know that Jason Cole is a long time friend
of the show and on the opportunities that I've had
to fill in. I've spoken with Jason and I respect
that tenure, Mike, But when he attacked my Smith and
the mitten joke, then then I'm pulling no punches.
Speaker 6 (02:34):
Gloves are off, Let's bring.
Speaker 4 (02:36):
It, especially when it started with a mitton joke and
ends with the gloves.
Speaker 5 (02:41):
Yes, absolutely, the mittens are coming off.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
Nicely done.
Speaker 4 (02:46):
All right, let's go to the fun and exciting world
of the Jacksonville Jaguars.
Speaker 6 (02:52):
Hasn't been said for a while.
Speaker 4 (02:53):
That's as much as I can sell it. You gotta
like that and what's funny. And we had in my
He's update talking about Travis Hunter and his expected practice schedule. Right,
start with the offense, get yourself acclimated, make your you know,
put your best foot forward there. And then immediately starting
next week, start working a little hybrid, right, start working
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more in your defensive backfield, because let's face it, that's
where the growing pains for Travis Hunter are going to be. Everybody,
we can find ways to get guys the ball on offense, right,
We've seen guys like Devin Hester who really didn't shouldn't
have ever been a wide receiver. They still were able
to pretend at times get the ball in his hands,
and as soon as he secured it, he was gone. Obviously,
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Hall of Famer kick and punt returner. But many people
in Chicago liked to go full men in black, flashy
thing and forget when Devin Hester finally was trying to
be a wide receiver because it got quite painful at times.
But Liam Cohen also had a curious piece of information
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that flowed out of the beginning of training camp in
that he gave Trevor Lawrence right out of the movie
Diner classic movie Daniel Stern Gutenberg. All these guys before
they're pending nuptials, the wife to be has to prove
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she knows Baltimore Colts football. She has to take a quiz.
It becomes a big center piece to this film.
Speaker 5 (04:26):
So leam in another Cole reference, by the way, the
Baltimore Colts now we go.
Speaker 4 (04:30):
So Liam Gohen and the coaches gave him a one
hundred question quiz about the offense, play callings, play design,
and everything. Trevor Lawrence confirmed that he scored an eighty
five with the system glitching a bit. Col Enn quote
He did very well, very impressed with his command in
terms of understanding the intentionality of what we're trying to
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get done offensively.
Speaker 6 (04:55):
I love this well.
Speaker 5 (04:56):
The fifteen that he doesn't know, he's now going to
know for sure, because that's what you missed on the test.
Good sign so far for Trevor Lawrence.
Speaker 4 (05:03):
But a guy who you know, we're talking a lot
about Miami and Tua tongue, Ba Loa and Mike McDaniel
and everything else. Liam Cohens now the next duval, trying
to solve the riddle of an enigma of a question
mark that goes all the way back to the Urban
Meyer tenure. All right, so we kind of gave Trevor
Lawrence a bit of a red shirt year there, and
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now we're several years hence and still wondering what truly
is the ceiling for Trevor Lawrence. Last year you bring
in Brian Thomas, who you know, my exciting world of
trading cards and autographs. He's got no fewer than eight
different types of signatures. We're still trying to figure out
what the hell one is the one he actually signed.
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But you've got him. You're gonna have a fight in
the backfield, it's bigs B, it's ETN and whatever. And
then now you add Travis Hunter, a shiny new toy there.
But for Trevor Lawrence trying to figure out if he'll
ever live up to the guy that once upon a
time was dubbed the one because he fit the suit.
Speaker 5 (06:06):
Yes, and that was when he was in college. Because
I actually think Mike, when Trevor Lawrence came into the NFL,
that there wasn't as much pressure on him as the
first overall pick. Then there have been at other quarterbacks
because he's in Jacksonville. And now it's up to Liam
Cohen to try to change that. And when you look
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back at the Jaguars history, we know when they came
back into the league thirty years or it came into
the league thirty years ago, Tom Coughlin, Mark Brunel, Jaguars
almost immediate success AFC Championship game their second year. Then
you have the run with Fred Taylor, Maurice Jones, Drew
David Garar, yes, yes, and you have that Jack del
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Rio era where they were playing playoff football. But since
then it's been pretty dry. Sands a appearance with Doug
Maron in the AFC Championship game against New England, a
game that they probably should have won, and then the
playoff game against the Chargers. Sorry, justin that the comeback,
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and that's pretty much been it. So now, Mike, you've
got a budding superstar in Travis Hunter, a quarterback that
is gonna have every opportunity to succeed. Like I find
Jacksonville so interesting this year in a year where I'm
not sure what the exact storylines are going to be,
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just because is this the opportunity for them to become
a hot, trendy team because of Travis Hunter.
Speaker 6 (07:40):
And if they become hot and.
Speaker 5 (07:44):
A popular team, I think that helps Trevor Lawrence and
then Trevor Lawrence ends up being the.
Speaker 6 (07:48):
Guy that we thought he was going to be at Clemson.
Speaker 5 (07:51):
And I think that there's an opportunity there because of
the two way stuff with Travis Hunter. But it's so
intriguing to me because as a Seahawks fan, the Seahawks
won ten games last year. They were the only double
digit team, double digit win team to not make the postseason.
I think if you were to ask most people, they
thought they were seven to ten as opposed to ten
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and seven but part of that mic is because there's
no more Russell Wilson there, there's no more Pete Carroll there.
Their flash and popularity has gone down. They're not on
primetime football in those prime windows anymore. Those days are
over with. I think Jacksonville, who's never really been there
for the first time, actually has that opportunity to do so,
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to be that sort of team that is, Hey, this
is a young, trendy, hot team and with their inroads
that they've made to London, could be really interesting. So
I look at them as a whole specifically because of
the Travis Hunter Unicorn drafting of how different he is.
But if he works out, if he works out, then
it's better for Trevor Lawrence, it's better for everyone else,
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better for Liam Cohen, and the Jaguars could take off.
Speaker 4 (08:59):
Now get the past stops for Liam Cohen, and he's
had great success both with the Rams and with the Buccaneers,
and certainly given a lot of credit for the run
up that you've seen in the next iteration of Baker
Mayfield's career, no question about it. For Jacksonville. The thing
that is most enticing to all of it Travis Hunter
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and everything coming on board being fantastic and all the
division is there to be had, right, we talk about
the Titans one of the more uncomfortable things, and it's
really not playable on air, but the video of someone
asking about because you have to ask it, right, You
ask every player, You ask every coach in GM as
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they sit there the first day of training camp about
Super Bowl aspirations, and you had your head coach in
GM look at each other and start laughing, and there's
about an eight seconds pause which would get us dumped.
We'd have a bunch of engineers swooping down like it
was that code it monsters. Ain't that things have gone
badly because like, none of well he's actually going to
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talk eventually, and then you're like, well, I mean obviously
that's the goal and whatever else. Well, Will Levis can't
throw the football over the mountain. He's done for the year.
Cam Ward comes in intriguing, but not a lot to
build with there.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
Right, they are the long shot in the division.
Speaker 4 (10:15):
They're eight to one, which is still significantly better than
a lot of their cohorts at the bottom of the
back in other divisions.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
The Colts, there's a lot.
Speaker 4 (10:23):
Of intrigue there and we'll get to the quarterback part
of that coming up in about fifteen minutes. But certainly
from a skill position standpoint, you look at the wide
receivers and say, well, maybe you've got Jonathan Taylor in
the backfield. You say, well maybe, And everybody still keeps
telling me how brilliant Shane Steichen is. So now here's
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his chance to go and do it. But you got
the big question mark at the quarterback right wearing the
nice green with the derby included Jim Carrey like riddler
outfit as he's running around.
Speaker 3 (10:55):
Okay, cool.
Speaker 4 (10:56):
Jaguars are second favorites at plus two p fifty plus
two plus three hundred and a couple spots if you
want a little longer odd. And then you've got the
Houston Texans. Last year we watched their offensive line was terrible.
It's not any better this year. Joe Mixon coming in,
he's banged up, he's not going to start training camp.
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Should be okay, but something want take. Dell's not going
to be available. They've all but said we'll see him
in twenty twenty six. And so now you're trying to
figure out C J. Stroud does he bounce back? Is
this an opportunity for them or are they gettable? And
for Jacksonville with better quarterbackings, efficient quarterbacking from Trevor Lawrence,
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a boost with Travis Hunter on board, the division is
certainly theirs to go and steal.
Speaker 5 (11:48):
It's crazy to think, but if the Titans are sitting
there at eight to one, right, like if it's and
that's what it was, right, Titans eight to one, like
that says more about who's the top the division than
it is on the team that we're talking about at
the bottom. Like you would take the Giants who we
ripped apart earlier in the show, twenty one, maybe the
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NFC East, Like it's a long shot.
Speaker 6 (12:14):
We know there's only three other teams.
Speaker 4 (12:15):
Right, you know, right, you got them a like twenty one,
You've got the Raiders in the West are fifteen to
twenty one. Which is also a curious thing. We talked
about that Jared Smith and I a little bit last night.
Speaker 5 (12:26):
But all of those teams that are above them are
legitimate playoff teams, some Super Bowl contenders, and the Titans,
who are starting cam Ward Week one in an underwhelming
quarterback draft, are sitting there at eight to one. Yeah,
that does say everything that you need to know about
the AFC South, which then opens the door for Jacksonville.
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I would say, for for as bad as the Urban
Meyer era was, it was so bad that it seemed
to cover the stench of what ever Doug Peterson left
in his wake. Sure, but there are still players there.
There are still there are still players, and now you've
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added a guy like Travis Hunter to the mix.
Speaker 6 (13:12):
Like the success is there.
Speaker 5 (13:14):
It's obviously up to Trevor Lawrence and not to have
to state it's up to Trevor Lawrence to be healthy
is another sort of view, which he's recently battled injuries
throughout his career, so that's another whole sort of thing.
But you brought in Doug Peterson to help work with
Trevor Lawrence for a while at help and then it
ends up falling flat. Now we'll see if Liam Cohen
can do the same. But I I find them so intriguing, Mike,
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just because I think that they could be that popular
team in the NFL that isn't one of the blue
butt bloods or traditional teams that has a huge fan base,
Like they could become a trendy, fun team in the
National Football League, kind of like the Seahawks were they'reing
that Pete Carroll, Russell Wilson.
Speaker 4 (13:56):
And well we have more viewings of remember the Titans
because he so much to Sunshine.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 4 (14:02):
The quarterback comes in from California, Houston Texans nine and
a half wins is the projected over under for them,
the Colts seven and a half, the Jaguars seven and
a half, Titans bringing up the rear. One of those
four teams we talked about earlier at five and a half,
and Diami Brown is now their third wide receiver who
is kind of an interesting little piece for Washington last year.
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So as a number three, I think you need to
figure out whether Brenton Strange is truly an option for
you at the tight end position. But definitely you could
make a worst bet if you're gonna go and find
yourself a little bit of a long shot. Here in
the AFC, he's Dan Byer, And for Jason Smith, I'll
Mike Carmen here as we continue from the Fox Sports
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Radio studios, we'll stay in division and do a little
more on the Colts, because, well, one quarterback, you and
I talked about him a couple of weeks ago on
the Fox Sports Sunday Show, ownership does think he's quite
done yet. Nah, maybe that ship is saled. But we'll
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Speaker 4 (17:24):
Taking a trip down memory lane. Haven't heard this one
in a while. Maybe the musaic version on an elevator.
Welcome back in It's Fox Sports Radio. Yeah, there you go,
Jason Smith Show with Me, Mike Harman, No Jason Smith,
Dan Byer in his stead. I might actually if I
gave this two minutes a thought, I might actually remember.
Speaker 3 (17:43):
All the lyrics are truly sad speak.
Speaker 5 (17:45):
I came across this on a YouTube rabbit hole one
night live version, Yes live see.
Speaker 4 (17:51):
I've been living in the Paul Simon and now Ozzy
Osbourne world going on a good month, so I need
to re establish the boundaries and something else. A lot
of sadness in what I've been listening to, So I
gotta find some positivity and I'll do that by looking
at the Indianapolis Colts. And I'm gonna do that because
Colts owner Carly ERSA. Gordon several days ago said Anthony
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Richardson still has quote time to prove it. What where
he is in his career and in his deal as
a rookie, we still have time. Obviously we're talking a
lot about contracts and well have you proven enough to
get that next deal? Certainly for Anthony Richardson myriad questions
surrounding desire, willingness, aptitude. We know he came in from
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college with very few starts under his belt raw material, right.
He was A running joke on the show was that
Jason was declaring him the Heiasman winner after two weeks,
which is great, I mean because that it fed the
rest of the year as things unraveled and certainly into
his time with the Colts of there could be a
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dot dot dot, And it goes back to you know,
back in many years ago, when you and I were younger, Dan,
you might actually have a quarterback and you just say,
we like that guy, but he's gonna sit on his
ass for a year and he's gonna learn and he's
gonna work on these problems with his mechanics, his decision making,
his reads, and we're gonna go through. He's gonna take
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one hundred question quiz like Liam Gohen gave to Trevor Lawrence,
and maybe that becomes a standard going forward. Forget about
some of these other things you do pre draft. Can
you riddle me this, batman? But now for Anthony Richardson,
he finds himself in a battle with Daniel Jones, who
comes over after a much maligned run with the New
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York Football Giants. Number of injuries, so some of it performance,
some of it injuries, a lot of it to say,
not a lot of sexiness in the quarterback room, but
a roster that is at least on par with the
other members of your division. And potentially, if things broke
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right and Shane Steichen is the guy that people believe
he is, that he can bring Daniel Jones back to
that guy that was drafted in the first round, because
even if he was overdrafted, was still a guy that
showed something. Early stats aren't massive or anything, but ability
to run except when he fell down and those kind
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of things.
Speaker 3 (20:27):
But for the Colts. They're in an interesting spot.
Speaker 4 (20:30):
I think ersays the ownership thing is, well, we're not
done with him, even though he tapped out of that
game last year. We're not giving up on him yet,
but certainly a lot to prove. But Daniel Jones running
with the Ones right now, and it's a pretty decent
receiving room.
Speaker 5 (20:47):
I love it when we hear honest talk. I love
it when it's from players. I love it when it's
from head coaches, even when we don't agree with that
honest talk.
Speaker 6 (20:59):
Like something so stupid.
Speaker 5 (21:00):
That Mike Brown said again about Shamar Stewart and the
whole what about it if he gets arrested, that's great
for you and me to talk about and for us
to talk about our buddies and how silly and stupid
a comment like that is. But what I find interesting
in this whole Anthony Richardson situation Mike is I don't
have a problem with what the Colts are saying because
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I understand what they're trying to do. People want to
call Chris Ballard a hypocrite because of what they did
with Anthony Richardson and now how they're talking about him,
But I also think they're just trying to support the player,
and supporting the player now is a position where you're
going to try to get what you can out of him.
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Chris Ballard, saying that it's an open competition in January,
said all you needed to know about what they think
about Anthony Richardson in his first two years. Whether you
think Daniel Jones is a legitimate competition to that, that's
for you to decide. You may be higher on him
than I am, but the point being of I think
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Ballard's being criticized for talking out of both sides of
his mouth at teams when all he's doing is trying
to support the player, and I can't be mad at that.
Maybe I disagree with how they went about it, and
I don't. I don't disagree with how they went about it.
I just think that Anthony Richardson is kind of who
he is. He's the fourth or overall pick. He has
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to play, even though he was so inexperienced.
Speaker 6 (22:27):
Mike.
Speaker 5 (22:28):
There's such a rush nowadays to get these guys. Maybe
that's where they misjudged. Maybe I'm wrong on that, but
I feel that they needed to play him and what
he's done so far injury wise, lack of production wise
is just kind of told us as a bad pick.
But for what they're saying, they're supporting the player. Whether
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you believe in Anthony Richardson or not, they're at least
doing that, and I can't be mad at that. Even
if it sounds like Chris Ballard's trying to have it
both ways.
Speaker 3 (22:58):
Well, that's thing.
Speaker 4 (23:00):
Howard's also a guy that there's plenty of tape of me,
and I don't do a lot of calling for guys jobs,
but there are times where you hit a point in
an organization like I think we've run its course.
Speaker 5 (23:11):
Well, yeah, isn't that the theme now that you have
ownership following the you know, not ownership change, but new
leaders following the passing of Jim r say that that
stuff's not going to fly anymore. That seems to be
the message coming out of out of Colts camp, and
and I understand that, and I think that it's his
last leg.
Speaker 6 (23:30):
I'm doing so. But again, just like.
Speaker 5 (23:31):
We talked about earlier with the Giants, the you have
to attach yourself to the young quarterback if you want
to stick around in the league, because if you don't
have that and that player doesn't doesn't produce, and isn't
that guy for you?
Speaker 6 (23:44):
You also won't be in that position.
Speaker 4 (23:46):
Yeah, generally you don't get to get a second or well,
some guys get three bites at the apple Man. I
can do another rant on Ryan Poles getting an exenter
for winning an off season with a miserable season to
season record. But for in, you know, you say all
the right thing for Richardson because eventually you may have
to pay him and you don't want to be in
the Mike Brown and Jerry Jones and Mike Brown, I
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think for me a lot of it was he said
the quiet part. Like from a business standpoint, I agree
with what he's saying. His example was far worse than
what Jerry Jones said. Sure, the guy could get hit
by bus like that was okay, Whereas with Mike Brown,
he took it to the darkest part of things. But
from a negotiating standpoint, when you're talking about guaranteed moneies,
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I don't think it's unreasonable to think the guy has
to be available to you to collect said monies and
that you should be able to avoid.
Speaker 3 (24:40):
But that's either here nor there.
Speaker 4 (24:41):
In this particular case, it's now the we have a
guy here, he's still under contract.
Speaker 3 (24:47):
We should support him by bringing in competition.
Speaker 4 (24:50):
Maybe that's the thing that draws him back into focus,
back to the guy needs to be and we don't
have another tap out situation like we did a year
ago that made the Colts a laughing stock. Sure is Richardson,
but that's the guy that you empowered to be your guy.
So he's got a lot to prove. Much like we
talked with Tua and the Dolphins and what's going on
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with Tyreek Hill and everybody playing nice sandbox, Anthony Richardson
needs to make amends for all of that with everybody
in the room.
Speaker 5 (25:20):
He needs he needs to do something like one good
game against the Jets. Sorry, Jason Smith does not save
a career. The tapping out is probably going to stick
with him for a long time. Look at Cam Newton.
What is not diving on the football in Super Bowl fifty.
Speaker 3 (25:37):
Yes it is everything.
Speaker 4 (25:38):
Guy had a fantastic eight year run and his body
took him as far as it was going to go.
Speaker 3 (25:43):
But he's always going to be remembered for that time
he didn't give him trophy.
Speaker 5 (25:46):
Undefeated leads Obre to a national Championship MVP that year
in the NFL, and we remember him not diving on
a ball. Anthony Richardson at least has time in his
career to try to change that sort of narrative.
Speaker 6 (25:59):
I just we know it. Listen, Chris Ballard knows it.
Speaker 5 (26:04):
Chris Ballard is thinking what you're thinking, what I'm thinking,
what everybody else is thinking about Anthony Richardson. And he's
thinking that because he said, it's an open competition in January.
But if you're going to have an open competition, you
can't make it a one man competition by supporting Daniel
Jones and just saying, man, Anthony Richardson just really doesn't
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have anything left. They said what they said about Anthony
Richardson and how they feel about Anthony Richardson when they
open it to a competition, and whether you think Daniel
Jones's competition or not, that's up to you, but that
said everything and trying to get what they can over
a guy that they use the fourth overall pick on.
Speaker 6 (26:42):
I said it during that draft, Mike, I'm like, listen,
if you.
Speaker 5 (26:45):
Love if, if Anthony Richardson is supposed to be your
Josh Allen, take him number one.
Speaker 3 (26:50):
But that has almost.
Speaker 4 (26:50):
Been yes, the case that we've made you and I
on our shows respectively, and I think in the podcast
whatever else. If that's your guy, you're you're If it
goes badly, you're walking the play with him. But if
you've in your evaluation you've decided that he is the
guy to hit your wagons to, that's that's the I
gotta ride it until the wheels come up.
Speaker 5 (27:11):
Yeah, that's your evaluation. That's where you're putting your money.
And the reason I said this, I bring that up,
Mike be it was because it wasn't. I was saying
that Anthony Richardson should be the number one pick that year,
how we were looking at him and what was projected
to be there could be that possibility. So if you
believed that, then take him number one. Bryce Young goes one.
Speaker 6 (27:33):
CJ. Stroud goes two. Bryce Young.
Speaker 5 (27:36):
Excuse me how Anthony Richardson ends up going forward to
the Colts. So now you're sitting there and you have
a guy who we knew the situation coming into the
National Football League of his inexperience, but he's a high
draft pick and for what we've seen, you don't have
time to waste and find out. Imagine they waited a
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year and then we found out that he was injury
prone and taps out. You know, like at least they
have their decision. Now after this third season, you don't
have to pick up his fifth year option to get
another look at.
Speaker 6 (28:09):
Him, and you move on.
Speaker 4 (28:11):
It's the curiosity of had he had he sat for
a year, but that would have been Uh that was
after Philip Rivers, right, who just retired, by the way,
congratulations Philip Rivers.
Speaker 6 (28:21):
Is Matt Ryan?
Speaker 4 (28:24):
Yeah, yeah, No, it's more the joke of Philip Rivers
literally retiring, uh, yesterday when he hasn't played years. But
I mean you put him back with this offense they've
got now stiking can run wild. No, but I mean,
Matt Ryan, you just took spin after spin because you
were reeling and wandering in the desert after Andrew Luck
decided to take his ball and go home, like it
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was several years of wait, what are we doing next?
And Anthony Richardson was your guy. So if in theory
he could have sat for a year, maybe you learn
from the veteran, Maybe you see enough in the price
that you can fix some of those things with his
delivery and his decision making. Again jokes to the Jaguars
(29:09):
and the and the quiz and all, but it's no
substitute for on field play, and what we've seen, he's
not passing that test.
Speaker 3 (29:18):
There's no matter what curve we put on it.
Speaker 5 (29:20):
At this point, it's it has not been good but
to sit there and we've ripped on the Colts for
two years pretty much with the pick right, and so
now they're doing something about it and trying to get
the last bit of juice and maybe the last hail
Mary on his tenure in Indianapolis because he'll find work
(29:40):
elsewhere Daniel Jones to fix them. Yeah, for sure, absolutely
they may have botched it, but I'm just not going
to criticize them. I'm not going to criticize the Colts
for trying to support him and try to make something
out of his third year in Indianapolis. Just not going
to happen.
Speaker 4 (29:58):
Yeah, and if they didn't see something, it would have
been very easy to just say we made a mistake
and cutting. So clearly something's still there in the offing.
Speaker 5 (30:05):
I think he's officially a bust, Like there's there's I
think that's that's the case.
Speaker 6 (30:12):
Like I.
Speaker 5 (30:13):
As much as I'm supporting Ballad, I just I don't
believe that it's gonna work out in Indianapolis. I just
feel Ballad's being criticized for making comments of supporting a
player that I don't think is fair. But I think
Daniel Jonones is going to be the starting quarterback Week one.
Speaker 4 (30:27):
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Speaker 3 (30:47):
It's Moncey Millennios. What's going on? Manzi?
Speaker 9 (30:49):
Well everything has wrapped up phil Is, but we'll start
in baseball.
Speaker 10 (30:53):
We did have a full slate of games.
Speaker 9 (30:55):
The Red Sox were down five runs, came back to
defeat the Phillies nine to eight in a le innings.
Bryce Harper did hit his three hundred and fiftieth career
home run in the loss. In this one, Aaron Judge
hit his thirty seventh home run in the season, also
a loss for the Yankees. Today, the Blue Jays outscored
them eight to four. Toronto now has a four game
lead on New York in the Al East. The Rangers
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edged the A's two to one. Corey Seeger with the homer.
Speaker 10 (31:20):
In the victory.
Speaker 9 (31:21):
White Sox top the Rays eleven to nine, And another day, another.
Speaker 10 (31:25):
Walk off for Freddie Freeman.
Speaker 9 (31:27):
Dodgers win at forty three thanks to a two RBI
single from Freeman.
Speaker 10 (31:31):
It was very up and down this game, guys.
Speaker 9 (31:33):
All right, we were up, then we had the bases loaded,
lost the lead, then we win it.
Speaker 10 (31:39):
Freddy Freeman, thank you coming in clutch once again.
Speaker 9 (31:41):
Mookie Betts could miss Friday series opener against his former team,
the Boston Red Sox due to a personal reason. Dave
Roberts announced this after the game. The Brewers have the
best record in baseball. They had seventeen hits today took
down Seattle ten to two was the final score. Milwaukee
is now sixty one and forty one on the season.
The Astros edged the Diamondbacks four to three. They completed
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a three game sweep. The Mets defeated the Angels six
to three, completing their three games sweep beat Alonso with
a three run shot in that one. The Marlins defeated
the Padres three to two, while the Rocky shut out
the Cardinals six to zero, their.
Speaker 10 (32:15):
First shutout in two hundred and twenty games. Go Rocky,
I about that.
Speaker 3 (32:21):
That's a hell of a run. It is why Justin
Verland are getting to win.
Speaker 9 (32:24):
Exactly, Justin Verlander did get a win today.
Speaker 10 (32:28):
That is not a typo one. In eight offseason.
Speaker 9 (32:32):
Cha's in the Giants defeated.
Speaker 10 (32:34):
Atlanta nine to three. WNBA News.
Speaker 9 (32:37):
Caitlin Clark, still still dealing with that right growin injury,
ruled out for Thursday's game against the Aces. In College hoops,
USC's five star freshmen Elijah Arena suffered a meniscus tear,
according to Chris Haynes, and he is expected to be
sidelined for at least six to eight months. This is
Gilbert Arena's son who was also in that car accident
(32:58):
not long ago where we was put in a coma
of the smoking elation and he was just allowed about
two weeks ago to go back to basketball activities and
he heard his knee so rough start for him.
Speaker 10 (33:08):
Back to you guys.
Speaker 3 (33:09):
Well, but back on a court and positive steps in
that regard.
Speaker 10 (33:13):
Now, sure, totally.
Speaker 4 (33:14):
I just think this will be a little bit should
we say, easier to get past, Not that we wish
ill on anybody.
Speaker 3 (33:21):
He's been through hell. Here's the next challenge. Yes, absolutely,
thanks Monci Dodgers.
Speaker 4 (33:27):
Also not to bury the lead Tyler Glass now gave
them seven strong that's too straight starts in a much
beleaguered rotation where he's gone well for them and I
don't think any relievers got hurt and they didn't have
any errors.
Speaker 9 (33:41):
Yes, correct, and twelve strikeouts for Tyler exactly?
Speaker 5 (33:44):
Did you know that Verlander toocked me off eighteen years ago?
And I'm still mad A love that you're still about
it eighteen years in running. It was like the eighteen
year anniversary, Kenne, what did he do?
Speaker 3 (33:54):
So that would have been? Yeah, let's let's tease that.
Speaker 6 (33:58):
There.
Speaker 4 (33:58):
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Speaker 4 (34:43):
Welcome back in It's Fox Sports Radio Jason Smith Show
with Me Mike Harmon. No Jason denied Dan Byer in
his stead. He'll be with me again tomorrow night. Catch
all the podcast stuff as it goes up. As we
finish up the show a little later on, Justin'll have
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breath for we teased a head. We'll get to our
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fantasy top five running backs here in a moment, pass
catchers out of the backfield and heroes zero running back.
Speaker 3 (35:11):
I think not.
Speaker 4 (35:13):
But before we had a little bit of a Justin
Verlander excited utterance of that guy.
Speaker 3 (35:20):
So it became a story.
Speaker 4 (35:21):
And now it goes back to an All Star Game
occurrence of years ago. Dan Byer still having taking some
umbridge with Justin Verlander, who earned his first win in
seventeen starts today.
Speaker 5 (35:33):
Yeah, and to the long and short of it, he
was a jerk to me. He was just just a
jerk to me in the clubhouse. And this is how
it happened. This is in light of Mike Rabel, you know,
taking Ben Volan to task for not listening in his
press conference.
Speaker 6 (35:47):
You may think it's along those lines.
Speaker 5 (35:49):
Long story short mic All Star Festivities two thousand and
seven in San Francisco. We flew from LA to San
Francisco that day, so home run derby is that day.
What ends up happening is you gather information and you
gather your sound during the BP prior to home run derby.
(36:10):
So we were delayed. My luggage was lost on a
forty five minute flight. Don't ask, I have no idea.
We didn't get to the ballpark until after the player
availability was over. I know this is all boring, but
it leads to the point when the home run derby
is happening. Most of the players have left. You have
no idea what all stars are actually going to be around,
(36:32):
except for maybe the couple of guys who were in
the home run derby. Well, Justin Verlander happened to be
one of the players sticking around, and it was in
the clubhouse.
Speaker 6 (36:40):
Went up to him, asked him a question. They had
lost the.
Speaker 5 (36:43):
Previous year to the Cardinals in the World Series, and
I just asked them a question of like, you know,
does this game with home field advantage because it was
on the line, does it matter because you were in
the situation last year? And he goes, boy, these are
some real original questions. Wow, And so I was like,
now you didn't know my backstory. But also I could
(37:06):
have said, what happened when you lost the World Series
last year?
Speaker 6 (37:09):
Yeah? Could have been that question, right, could have been much.
Speaker 4 (37:11):
More dim still dancing around in your head? Is it
take you? Do you take it to bed with Jerk?
Speaker 5 (37:16):
I was asking generic questions to get my sort of
responsibilities done. Sure for gathering sound Was it the greatest
question in the world?
Speaker 7 (37:27):
No?
Speaker 6 (37:28):
Did I think it was apropos for the situation? Yes?
And he had a problem with it.
Speaker 5 (37:33):
So sorry, if you had to answer it a couple
of times before earlier in the day. Sorry, but eighteen
years later, I still have a problem with it.
Speaker 3 (37:41):
Yeah, just say this time it counts and it shouldn't
tip your cap and walk away.
Speaker 6 (37:45):
Never I've never cheered for him ever since that point.
Speaker 3 (37:50):
And there you go.
Speaker 4 (37:51):
Nastro's and the Tigers. So I didn't like him because
he was in division against the white shirt.
Speaker 3 (37:57):
So now hey, he could be I can put them
on my long hand and.
Speaker 6 (38:01):
On another sixteen start non win streak.
Speaker 3 (38:04):
There you go.
Speaker 4 (38:04):
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(38:26):
I'm good.
Speaker 5 (38:27):
I also want to say this, Mike, You're in this
business enough and we're fortunate enough to talk with a
lot of different athletes. I get asked this question more
by other people than maybe any other question outside of
do you know Terry Bradshaw because we work for that one.
Speaker 6 (38:48):
By my family, I think every relative has asked me, Oh,
that's the case. I don't. I don't.
Speaker 4 (38:53):
I still get ticket requests twenty years later, I get nothing.
I don't get tickets from me let alone to give
to you.
Speaker 5 (38:59):
Who's the nicest athlete you've had to deal with? Is
the question I get? And then I get who was?
Who didn't you like? And I have I have an
answer for each of those, like that nicest athlete, Cole
Hamil's Philadelphia Phillies Okay, yes, absolutely rudiest, Justin Verlander, Detroit Tigers,
(39:23):
like it goes boom boom, boom boom. I am just
as excited to say Justin Verlander as I'm just as
excited to say Cole Hamil's. Cole Hamil's nice guy, Justin
Verlander rude to me? You have you have one, You've
got it. Everybody does a lot of the nice ones.
Speaker 3 (39:38):
I try to the jerky ones like I don't.
Speaker 6 (39:41):
I don't go to any names.
Speaker 3 (39:43):
No, but I don't.
Speaker 4 (39:43):
I don't go to as many events anymore, Like what's
upon a time they were, you know, regular, and it
would be chasing a guy, and he'd said I didn't
have time, like in terms of being really being jerky
to me, I don't know that I have a guy.
Speaker 5 (39:55):
Here's also my whole point. And I'm and I know
we're probably not going to get the fan of I'll
get to fantasy next hour, that's fine, But because it's
a one on one situation and I feel like he
thought he could probably get away with it.
Speaker 6 (40:07):
So that's why I have absolutely no problem are out here.
Speaker 5 (40:11):
Eighteen years later because you thought you could get away
with it, You thought you could be a jerk, you
thought you could be snarky in that way when there
was no reason to. That's the reason why. And I
don't need an apology. I don't need anything. I'm obviously
not over it because it's been eighteen years, but I
don't even care about being over it. That's that's that's
(40:33):
why I talk about it. That's why I name names.
Speaker 4 (40:36):
Now I'm trying to think of circumstances. But the one
has a funny story to it.
Speaker 6 (40:40):
Okay, so was.
Speaker 4 (40:42):
One of the time I was used to travel to
super Bowl events on my own time and my own
dime back in the day before working at nights here
Fox Sports Radio. And it's like trying to build a
name in the business. Used to run and run into
Jay Glazer and things whatever, and occasionally you get yourself
invited to a party.
Speaker 3 (41:01):
It's like cool, so go to.
Speaker 4 (41:02):
One and uh, well it got mocked by by a
series of legends, but it makes for a great story.
It was a jerky move in the moment because like, hey,
little man, you know Blank Newton, little reporter, you know
media guy. But then it makes for a great story
because they basically said that well that God had smited
(41:22):
me by making me wide in shoulder but small in stature,
with not so great terms attached Rump and later on
in the party, Snooker performed at like three am for
anybody that was still there, he showed up.
Speaker 3 (41:36):
I was like, eh, we gotta other.
Speaker 4 (41:38):
It's like turning back, hey little man, you want to
spot by the rails that you can see It's like
so former Eagles quarterback Chicago kid, Yeah, at you McNab,
there you go.
Speaker 3 (41:52):
But it's a great story between him and Ray Lewis.
They mocked me. It was great.
Speaker 6 (41:56):
Well, at least he got a front row seat out
of it.
Speaker 3 (41:59):
That's I did drop it like it was hot, So
it was good.
Speaker 5 (42:02):
I get it. Athletes are out for dinner. They don't
want to be bothered. Somebody doesn't sound an autograph And
to the worst person in the world, that's not what
this setting was. This is a locker room where you're
just asking an innocent question. That's all you're trying to do,
just trying to do your job.
Speaker 3 (42:15):
Just give me fifteen seconds.
Speaker 4 (42:17):
And then after I stopped recording, that helped me to
go blank myself.
Speaker 6 (42:20):
Sure, right, So.
Speaker 5 (42:20):
Somebody had asked me that two questions earlier because I
was the only one talking to him.
Speaker 3 (42:25):
Completely get it.
Speaker 6 (42:26):
That's why Mike Vrabel got mad because he just talked
about it.
Speaker 5 (42:28):
Nobody was listening. Yep, And so like, I get that
portion of it. But if I'm new to it, I've
got my own duties to figure out.
Speaker 4 (42:34):
It's new to your situation. It's like the reruns on
NBC back.
Speaker 3 (42:38):
In the day.
Speaker 4 (42:39):
If you didn't see it, it's new to you. How
about a guy that's saying it's unacceptable.
Speaker 6 (42:43):
I haven't
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Second half of the show begins disco ball, still down,
Marching bands on the field. Yeah, go through your entire
down McClain song if you need to. The day the
music guide there, I punctuated it for you. Jason Smith
Show with Me Mike Carmon. No Jason Smith this week
off gallivanting in Detroit, if you have a line on
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a Muskrat dinner, or you're hanging out at.
Speaker 3 (00:56):
A White Castle.
Speaker 4 (00:57):
If you want to be paparazzo, you'll probably run into
him at some point wearing some sort of Mets, Jets
or Syracuse gear.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
If that's out your thing, then just.
Speaker 4 (01:08):
Turn up the radio a little louder as Dan Buyer's
in his stead joining me my weekend partner, Fox Sports
Sundays as well as the I Launcher Flex podcast. You
hear him during the week on the Doug Gottlieb Show,
Cavino and Richie's at the news desk in part an
integral part of what they do each and every day. Dan,
good to have you in.
Speaker 5 (01:25):
I love being in different settings. Sun is down, it's nighttime.
Usually when we're together on a Sunday morning, the sun
is bright, or as we like to do with the
podcast Fantasy Football launching every Tuesday after the weeks with
our new episodes. Obviously love preseason episodes, but good to
get a little night flavor tonight.
Speaker 3 (01:46):
It gets a little loose.
Speaker 4 (01:47):
I mean, go back to last hour some of the
conversation with Jason Cole making sure annunciation addiction was currently
fully on point, with a couple of the Q and
a portions thereof you'll get that podcast at the end
of the show once Justin puts that together. Our executive producer,
Justin and of course Alex tie Shirt on the ones
(02:08):
of two's Monsey at the news desk and working in
the back. We've got Ian and Brandon making it all
sound so pretty Listen.
Speaker 5 (02:16):
I know that Jason Cole is a long time friend
of the show and on the opportunities that I've had
to fill in. I've spoken with Jason and I respect
that tenure, Mike, But when he attacked my Smith and
the mitten joke, then then I'm pulling no punches.
Speaker 6 (02:34):
Gloves are off, Let's bring.
Speaker 4 (02:36):
It, especially when it started with a mitton joke and
ends with the gloves.
Speaker 5 (02:41):
Yes, absolutely, the mittens are coming off.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
Nicely done.
Speaker 4 (02:46):
All right, let's go to the fun and exciting world
of the Jacksonville Jaguars.
Speaker 6 (02:52):
Hasn't been said for a while.
Speaker 4 (02:53):
That's as much as I can sell it. You gotta
like that and what's funny. And we had in my
He's update talking about Travis Hunter and his expected practice schedule. Right,
start with the offense, get yourself acclimated, make your you know,
put your best foot forward there. And then immediately starting
next week, start working a little hybrid, right, start working
(03:15):
more in your defensive backfield, because let's face it, that's
where the growing pains for Travis Hunter are going to be. Everybody,
we can find ways to get guys the ball on offense, right,
We've seen guys like Devin Hester who really didn't shouldn't
have ever been a wide receiver. They still were able
to pretend at times get the ball in his hands,
and as soon as he secured it, he was gone. Obviously,
(03:36):
Hall of Famer kick and punt returner. But many people
in Chicago liked to go full men in black, flashy
thing and forget when Devin Hester finally was trying to
be a wide receiver because it got quite painful at times.
But Liam Cohen also had a curious piece of information
(03:57):
that flowed out of the beginning of training camp in
that he gave Trevor Lawrence right out of the movie
Diner classic movie Daniel Stern Gutenberg. All these guys before
they're pending nuptials, the wife to be has to prove
(04:18):
she knows Baltimore Colts football. She has to take a quiz.
It becomes a big center piece to this film.
Speaker 5 (04:26):
So leam in another Cole reference, by the way, the
Baltimore Colts now we go.
Speaker 4 (04:30):
So Liam Gohen and the coaches gave him a one
hundred question quiz about the offense, play callings, play design,
and everything. Trevor Lawrence confirmed that he scored an eighty
five with the system glitching a bit. Col Enn quote
He did very well, very impressed with his command in
terms of understanding the intentionality of what we're trying to
(04:52):
get done offensively.
Speaker 6 (04:55):
I love this well.
Speaker 5 (04:56):
The fifteen that he doesn't know, he's now going to
know for sure, because that's what you missed on the test.
Good sign so far for Trevor Lawrence.
Speaker 4 (05:03):
But a guy who you know, we're talking a lot
about Miami and Tua tongue, Ba Loa and Mike McDaniel
and everything else. Liam Cohens now the next duval, trying
to solve the riddle of an enigma of a question
mark that goes all the way back to the Urban
Meyer tenure. All right, so we kind of gave Trevor
Lawrence a bit of a red shirt year there, and
(05:25):
now we're several years hence and still wondering what truly
is the ceiling for Trevor Lawrence. Last year you bring
in Brian Thomas, who you know, my exciting world of
trading cards and autographs. He's got no fewer than eight
different types of signatures. We're still trying to figure out
what the hell one is the one he actually signed.
(05:46):
But you've got him. You're gonna have a fight in
the backfield, it's bigs B, it's ETN and whatever. And
then now you add Travis Hunter, a shiny new toy there.
But for Trevor Lawrence trying to figure out if he'll
ever live up to the guy that once upon a
time was dubbed the one because he fit the suit.
Speaker 5 (06:06):
Yes, and that was when he was in college. Because
I actually think Mike, when Trevor Lawrence came into the NFL,
that there wasn't as much pressure on him as the
first overall pick. Then there have been at other quarterbacks
because he's in Jacksonville. And now it's up to Liam
Cohen to try to change that. And when you look
(06:28):
back at the Jaguars history, we know when they came
back into the league thirty years or it came into
the league thirty years ago, Tom Coughlin, Mark Brunel, Jaguars
almost immediate success AFC Championship game their second year. Then
you have the run with Fred Taylor, Maurice Jones, Drew
David Garar, yes, yes, and you have that Jack del
(06:52):
Rio era where they were playing playoff football. But since
then it's been pretty dry. Sands a appearance with Doug
Maron in the AFC Championship game against New England, a
game that they probably should have won, and then the
playoff game against the Chargers. Sorry, justin that the comeback,
(07:13):
and that's pretty much been it. So now, Mike, you've
got a budding superstar in Travis Hunter, a quarterback that
is gonna have every opportunity to succeed. Like I find
Jacksonville so interesting this year in a year where I'm
not sure what the exact storylines are going to be,
(07:33):
just because is this the opportunity for them to become
a hot, trendy team because of Travis Hunter.
Speaker 6 (07:40):
And if they become hot and.
Speaker 5 (07:44):
A popular team, I think that helps Trevor Lawrence and
then Trevor Lawrence ends up being the.
Speaker 6 (07:48):
Guy that we thought he was going to be at Clemson.
Speaker 5 (07:51):
And I think that there's an opportunity there because of
the two way stuff with Travis Hunter. But it's so
intriguing to me because as a Seahawks fan, the Seahawks
won ten games last year. They were the only double
digit team, double digit win team to not make the postseason.
I think if you were to ask most people, they
thought they were seven to ten as opposed to ten
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and seven but part of that mic is because there's
no more Russell Wilson there, there's no more Pete Carroll there.
Their flash and popularity has gone down. They're not on
primetime football in those prime windows anymore. Those days are
over with. I think Jacksonville, who's never really been there
for the first time, actually has that opportunity to do so,
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to be that sort of team that is, Hey, this
is a young, trendy, hot team and with their inroads
that they've made to London, could be really interesting. So
I look at them as a whole specifically because of
the Travis Hunter Unicorn drafting of how different he is.
But if he works out, if he works out, then
it's better for Trevor Lawrence, it's better for everyone else,
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better for Liam Cohen, and the Jaguars could take off.
Speaker 4 (08:59):
Now get the past stops for Liam Cohen, and he's
had great success both with the Rams and with the Buccaneers,
and certainly given a lot of credit for the run
up that you've seen in the next iteration of Baker
Mayfield's career, no question about it. For Jacksonville. The thing
that is most enticing to all of it Travis Hunter
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and everything coming on board being fantastic and all the
division is there to be had, right, we talk about
the Titans one of the more uncomfortable things, and it's
really not playable on air, but the video of someone
asking about because you have to ask it, right, You
ask every player, You ask every coach in GM as
(09:40):
they sit there the first day of training camp about
Super Bowl aspirations, and you had your head coach in
GM look at each other and start laughing, and there's
about an eight seconds pause which would get us dumped.
We'd have a bunch of engineers swooping down like it
was that code it monsters. Ain't that things have gone
badly because like, none of well he's actually going to
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talk eventually, and then you're like, well, I mean obviously
that's the goal and whatever else. Well, Will Levis can't
throw the football over the mountain. He's done for the year.
Cam Ward comes in intriguing, but not a lot to
build with there.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
Right, they are the long shot in the division.
Speaker 4 (10:15):
They're eight to one, which is still significantly better than
a lot of their cohorts at the bottom of the
back in other divisions.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
The Colts, there's a lot.
Speaker 4 (10:23):
Of intrigue there and we'll get to the quarterback part
of that coming up in about fifteen minutes. But certainly
from a skill position standpoint, you look at the wide
receivers and say, well, maybe you've got Jonathan Taylor in
the backfield. You say, well maybe, And everybody still keeps
telling me how brilliant Shane Steichen is. So now here's
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his chance to go and do it. But you got
the big question mark at the quarterback right wearing the
nice green with the derby included Jim Carrey like riddler
outfit as he's running around.
Speaker 3 (10:55):
Okay, cool.
Speaker 4 (10:56):
Jaguars are second favorites at plus two p fifty plus
two plus three hundred and a couple spots if you
want a little longer odd. And then you've got the
Houston Texans. Last year we watched their offensive line was terrible.
It's not any better this year. Joe Mixon coming in,
he's banged up, he's not going to start training camp.
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Should be okay, but something want take. Dell's not going
to be available. They've all but said we'll see him
in twenty twenty six. And so now you're trying to
figure out C J. Stroud does he bounce back? Is
this an opportunity for them or are they gettable? And
for Jacksonville with better quarterbackings, efficient quarterbacking from Trevor Lawrence,
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a boost with Travis Hunter on board, the division is
certainly theirs to go and steal.
Speaker 5 (11:48):
It's crazy to think, but if the Titans are sitting
there at eight to one, right, like if it's and
that's what it was, right, Titans eight to one, like
that says more about who's the top the division than
it is on the team that we're talking about at
the bottom. Like you would take the Giants who we
ripped apart earlier in the show, twenty one, maybe the
(12:11):
NFC East, Like it's a long shot.
Speaker 6 (12:14):
We know there's only three other teams.
Speaker 4 (12:15):
Right, you know, right, you got them a like twenty one,
You've got the Raiders in the West are fifteen to
twenty one. Which is also a curious thing. We talked
about that Jared Smith and I a little bit last night.
Speaker 5 (12:26):
But all of those teams that are above them are
legitimate playoff teams, some Super Bowl contenders, and the Titans,
who are starting cam Ward Week one in an underwhelming
quarterback draft, are sitting there at eight to one. Yeah,
that does say everything that you need to know about
the AFC South, which then opens the door for Jacksonville.
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I would say, for for as bad as the Urban
Meyer era was, it was so bad that it seemed
to cover the stench of what ever Doug Peterson left
in his wake. Sure, but there are still players there.
There are still there are still players, and now you've
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added a guy like Travis Hunter to the mix.
Speaker 6 (13:12):
Like the success is there.
Speaker 5 (13:14):
It's obviously up to Trevor Lawrence and not to have
to state it's up to Trevor Lawrence to be healthy
is another sort of view, which he's recently battled injuries
throughout his career, so that's another whole sort of thing.
But you brought in Doug Peterson to help work with
Trevor Lawrence for a while at help and then it
ends up falling flat. Now we'll see if Liam Cohen
can do the same. But I I find them so intriguing, Mike,
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just because I think that they could be that popular
team in the NFL that isn't one of the blue
butt bloods or traditional teams that has a huge fan base,
Like they could become a trendy, fun team in the
National Football League, kind of like the Seahawks were they'reing
that Pete Carroll, Russell Wilson.
Speaker 4 (13:56):
And well we have more viewings of remember the Titans
because he so much to Sunshine.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 4 (14:02):
The quarterback comes in from California, Houston Texans nine and
a half wins is the projected over under for them,
the Colts seven and a half, the Jaguars seven and
a half, Titans bringing up the rear. One of those
four teams we talked about earlier at five and a half,
and Diami Brown is now their third wide receiver who
is kind of an interesting little piece for Washington last year.
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So as a number three, I think you need to
figure out whether Brenton Strange is truly an option for
you at the tight end position. But definitely you could
make a worst bet if you're gonna go and find
yourself a little bit of a long shot. Here in
the AFC, he's Dan Byer, And for Jason Smith, I'll
Mike Carmen here as we continue from the Fox Sports
(14:47):
Radio studios, we'll stay in division and do a little
more on the Colts, because, well, one quarterback, you and
I talked about him a couple of weeks ago on
the Fox Sports Sunday Show, ownership does think he's quite
done yet. Nah, maybe that ship is saled. But we'll
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Speaker 4 (17:24):
Taking a trip down memory lane. Haven't heard this one
in a while. Maybe the musaic version on an elevator.
Welcome back in It's Fox Sports Radio. Yeah, there you go,
Jason Smith Show with Me, Mike Harman, No Jason Smith,
Dan Byer in his stead. I might actually if I
gave this two minutes a thought, I might actually remember.
Speaker 3 (17:43):
All the lyrics are truly sad speak.
Speaker 5 (17:45):
I came across this on a YouTube rabbit hole one
night live version, Yes live see.
Speaker 4 (17:51):
I've been living in the Paul Simon and now Ozzy
Osbourne world going on a good month, so I need
to re establish the boundaries and something else. A lot
of sadness in what I've been listening to, So I
gotta find some positivity and I'll do that by looking
at the Indianapolis Colts. And I'm gonna do that because
Colts owner Carly ERSA. Gordon several days ago said Anthony
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Richardson still has quote time to prove it. What where
he is in his career and in his deal as
a rookie, we still have time. Obviously we're talking a
lot about contracts and well have you proven enough to
get that next deal? Certainly for Anthony Richardson myriad questions
surrounding desire, willingness, aptitude. We know he came in from
(18:40):
college with very few starts under his belt raw material, right.
He was A running joke on the show was that
Jason was declaring him the Heiasman winner after two weeks,
which is great, I mean because that it fed the
rest of the year as things unraveled and certainly into
his time with the Colts of there could be a
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dot dot dot, And it goes back to you know,
back in many years ago, when you and I were younger, Dan,
you might actually have a quarterback and you just say,
we like that guy, but he's gonna sit on his
ass for a year and he's gonna learn and he's
gonna work on these problems with his mechanics, his decision making,
his reads, and we're gonna go through. He's gonna take
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one hundred question quiz like Liam Gohen gave to Trevor Lawrence,
and maybe that becomes a standard going forward. Forget about
some of these other things you do pre draft. Can
you riddle me this, batman? But now for Anthony Richardson,
he finds himself in a battle with Daniel Jones, who
comes over after a much maligned run with the New
(19:42):
York Football Giants. Number of injuries, so some of it performance,
some of it injuries, a lot of it to say,
not a lot of sexiness in the quarterback room, but
a roster that is at least on par with the
other members of your division. And potentially, if things broke
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right and Shane Steichen is the guy that people believe
he is, that he can bring Daniel Jones back to
that guy that was drafted in the first round, because
even if he was overdrafted, was still a guy that
showed something. Early stats aren't massive or anything, but ability
to run except when he fell down and those kind
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of things.
Speaker 3 (20:27):
But for the Colts. They're in an interesting spot.
Speaker 4 (20:30):
I think ersays the ownership thing is, well, we're not
done with him, even though he tapped out of that
game last year. We're not giving up on him yet,
but certainly a lot to prove. But Daniel Jones running
with the Ones right now, and it's a pretty decent
receiving room.
Speaker 5 (20:47):
I love it when we hear honest talk. I love
it when it's from players. I love it when it's
from head coaches, even when we don't agree with that
honest talk.
Speaker 6 (20:59):
Like something so stupid.
Speaker 5 (21:00):
That Mike Brown said again about Shamar Stewart and the
whole what about it if he gets arrested, that's great
for you and me to talk about and for us
to talk about our buddies and how silly and stupid
a comment like that is. But what I find interesting
in this whole Anthony Richardson situation Mike is I don't
have a problem with what the Colts are saying because
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I understand what they're trying to do. People want to
call Chris Ballard a hypocrite because of what they did
with Anthony Richardson and now how they're talking about him,
But I also think they're just trying to support the player,
and supporting the player now is a position where you're
going to try to get what you can out of him.
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Chris Ballard, saying that it's an open competition in January,
said all you needed to know about what they think
about Anthony Richardson in his first two years. Whether you
think Daniel Jones is a legitimate competition to that, that's
for you to decide. You may be higher on him
than I am, but the point being of I think
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Ballard's being criticized for talking out of both sides of
his mouth at teams when all he's doing is trying
to support the player, and I can't be mad at that.
Maybe I disagree with how they went about it, and
I don't. I don't disagree with how they went about it.
I just think that Anthony Richardson is kind of who
he is. He's the fourth or overall pick. He has
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to play, even though he was so inexperienced.
Speaker 6 (22:27):
Mike.
Speaker 5 (22:28):
There's such a rush nowadays to get these guys. Maybe
that's where they misjudged. Maybe I'm wrong on that, but
I feel that they needed to play him and what
he's done so far injury wise, lack of production wise
is just kind of told us as a bad pick.
But for what they're saying, they're supporting the player. Whether
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you believe in Anthony Richardson or not, they're at least
doing that, and I can't be mad at that. Even
if it sounds like Chris Ballard's trying to have it
both ways.
Speaker 3 (22:58):
Well, that's thing.
Speaker 4 (23:00):
Howard's also a guy that there's plenty of tape of me,
and I don't do a lot of calling for guys jobs,
but there are times where you hit a point in
an organization like I think we've run its course.
Speaker 5 (23:11):
Well, yeah, isn't that the theme now that you have
ownership following the you know, not ownership change, but new
leaders following the passing of Jim r say that that
stuff's not going to fly anymore. That seems to be
the message coming out of out of Colts camp, and
and I understand that, and I think that it's his
last leg.
Speaker 6 (23:30):
I'm doing so. But again, just like.
Speaker 5 (23:31):
We talked about earlier with the Giants, the you have
to attach yourself to the young quarterback if you want
to stick around in the league, because if you don't
have that and that player doesn't doesn't produce, and isn't
that guy for you?
Speaker 6 (23:44):
You also won't be in that position.
Speaker 4 (23:46):
Yeah, generally you don't get to get a second or well,
some guys get three bites at the apple Man. I
can do another rant on Ryan Poles getting an exenter
for winning an off season with a miserable season to
season record. But for in, you know, you say all
the right thing for Richardson because eventually you may have
to pay him and you don't want to be in
the Mike Brown and Jerry Jones and Mike Brown, I
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think for me a lot of it was he said
the quiet part. Like from a business standpoint, I agree
with what he's saying. His example was far worse than
what Jerry Jones said. Sure, the guy could get hit
by bus like that was okay, Whereas with Mike Brown,
he took it to the darkest part of things. But
from a negotiating standpoint, when you're talking about guaranteed moneies,
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I don't think it's unreasonable to think the guy has
to be available to you to collect said monies and
that you should be able to avoid.
Speaker 3 (24:40):
But that's either here nor there.
Speaker 4 (24:41):
In this particular case, it's now the we have a
guy here, he's still under contract.
Speaker 3 (24:47):
We should support him by bringing in competition.
Speaker 4 (24:50):
Maybe that's the thing that draws him back into focus,
back to the guy needs to be and we don't
have another tap out situation like we did a year
ago that made the Colts a laughing stock. Sure is Richardson,
but that's the guy that you empowered to be your guy.
So he's got a lot to prove. Much like we
talked with Tua and the Dolphins and what's going on
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with Tyreek Hill and everybody playing nice sandbox, Anthony Richardson
needs to make amends for all of that with everybody
in the room.
Speaker 5 (25:20):
He needs he needs to do something like one good
game against the Jets. Sorry, Jason Smith does not save
a career. The tapping out is probably going to stick
with him for a long time. Look at Cam Newton.
What is not diving on the football in Super Bowl fifty.
Speaker 3 (25:37):
Yes it is everything.
Speaker 4 (25:38):
Guy had a fantastic eight year run and his body
took him as far as it was going to go.
Speaker 3 (25:43):
But he's always going to be remembered for that time
he didn't give him trophy.
Speaker 5 (25:46):
Undefeated leads Obre to a national Championship MVP that year
in the NFL, and we remember him not diving on
a ball. Anthony Richardson at least has time in his
career to try to change that sort of narrative.
Speaker 6 (25:59):
I just we know it. Listen, Chris Ballard knows it.
Speaker 5 (26:04):
Chris Ballard is thinking what you're thinking, what I'm thinking,
what everybody else is thinking about Anthony Richardson. And he's
thinking that because he said, it's an open competition in January.
But if you're going to have an open competition, you
can't make it a one man competition by supporting Daniel
Jones and just saying, man, Anthony Richardson just really doesn't
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have anything left. They said what they said about Anthony
Richardson and how they feel about Anthony Richardson when they
open it to a competition, and whether you think Daniel
Jones's competition or not, that's up to you, but that
said everything and trying to get what they can over
a guy that they use the fourth overall pick on.
Speaker 6 (26:42):
I said it during that draft, Mike, I'm like, listen,
if you.
Speaker 5 (26:45):
Love if, if Anthony Richardson is supposed to be your
Josh Allen, take him number one.
Speaker 3 (26:50):
But that has almost.
Speaker 4 (26:50):
Been yes, the case that we've made you and I
on our shows respectively, and I think in the podcast
whatever else. If that's your guy, you're you're If it
goes badly, you're walking the play with him. But if
you've in your evaluation you've decided that he is the
guy to hit your wagons to, that's that's the I
gotta ride it until the wheels come up.
Speaker 5 (27:11):
Yeah, that's your evaluation. That's where you're putting your money.
And the reason I said this, I bring that up,
Mike be it was because it wasn't. I was saying
that Anthony Richardson should be the number one pick that year,
how we were looking at him and what was projected
to be there could be that possibility. So if you
believed that, then take him number one. Bryce Young goes one.
Speaker 6 (27:33):
CJ. Stroud goes two. Bryce Young.
Speaker 5 (27:36):
Excuse me how Anthony Richardson ends up going forward to
the Colts. So now you're sitting there and you have
a guy who we knew the situation coming into the
National Football League of his inexperience, but he's a high
draft pick and for what we've seen, you don't have
time to waste and find out. Imagine they waited a
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year and then we found out that he was injury
prone and taps out. You know, like at least they
have their decision. Now after this third season, you don't
have to pick up his fifth year option to get
another look at.
Speaker 6 (28:09):
Him, and you move on.
Speaker 4 (28:11):
It's the curiosity of had he had he sat for
a year, but that would have been Uh that was
after Philip Rivers, right, who just retired, by the way,
congratulations Philip Rivers.
Speaker 6 (28:21):
Is Matt Ryan?
Speaker 4 (28:24):
Yeah, yeah, No, it's more the joke of Philip Rivers
literally retiring, uh, yesterday when he hasn't played years. But
I mean you put him back with this offense they've
got now stiking can run wild. No, but I mean,
Matt Ryan, you just took spin after spin because you
were reeling and wandering in the desert after Andrew Luck
decided to take his ball and go home, like it
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was several years of wait, what are we doing next?
And Anthony Richardson was your guy. So if in theory
he could have sat for a year, maybe you learn
from the veteran, Maybe you see enough in the price
that you can fix some of those things with his
delivery and his decision making. Again jokes to the Jaguars
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and the and the quiz and all, but it's no
substitute for on field play, and what we've seen, he's
not passing that test.
Speaker 3 (29:18):
There's no matter what curve we put on it.
Speaker 5 (29:20):
At this point, it's it has not been good but
to sit there and we've ripped on the Colts for
two years pretty much with the pick right, and so
now they're doing something about it and trying to get
the last bit of juice and maybe the last hail
Mary on his tenure in Indianapolis because he'll find work
(29:40):
elsewhere Daniel Jones to fix them. Yeah, for sure, absolutely
they may have botched it, but I'm just not going
to criticize them. I'm not going to criticize the Colts
for trying to support him and try to make something
out of his third year in Indianapolis. Just not going
to happen.
Speaker 4 (29:58):
Yeah, and if they didn't see something, it would have
been very easy to just say we made a mistake
and cutting. So clearly something's still there in the offing.
Speaker 5 (30:05):
I think he's officially a bust, Like there's there's I
think that's that's the case.
Speaker 6 (30:12):
Like I.
Speaker 5 (30:13):
As much as I'm supporting Ballad, I just I don't
believe that it's gonna work out in Indianapolis. I just
feel Ballad's being criticized for making comments of supporting a
player that I don't think is fair. But I think
Daniel Jonones is going to be the starting quarterback Week one.
Speaker 4 (30:27):
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Speaker 3 (30:47):
It's Moncey Millennios. What's going on? Manzi?
Speaker 9 (30:49):
Well everything has wrapped up phil Is, but we'll start
in baseball.
Speaker 10 (30:53):
We did have a full slate of games.
Speaker 9 (30:55):
The Red Sox were down five runs, came back to
defeat the Phillies nine to eight in a le innings.
Bryce Harper did hit his three hundred and fiftieth career
home run in the loss. In this one, Aaron Judge
hit his thirty seventh home run in the season, also
a loss for the Yankees. Today, the Blue Jays outscored
them eight to four. Toronto now has a four game
lead on New York in the Al East. The Rangers
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edged the A's two to one. Corey Seeger with the homer.
Speaker 10 (31:20):
In the victory.
Speaker 9 (31:21):
White Sox top the Rays eleven to nine, And another day, another.
Speaker 10 (31:25):
Walk off for Freddie Freeman.
Speaker 9 (31:27):
Dodgers win at forty three thanks to a two RBI
single from Freeman.
Speaker 10 (31:31):
It was very up and down this game, guys.
Speaker 9 (31:33):
All right, we were up, then we had the bases loaded,
lost the lead, then we win it.
Speaker 10 (31:39):
Freddy Freeman, thank you coming in clutch once again.
Speaker 9 (31:41):
Mookie Betts could miss Friday series opener against his former team,
the Boston Red Sox due to a personal reason. Dave
Roberts announced this after the game. The Brewers have the
best record in baseball. They had seventeen hits today took
down Seattle ten to two was the final score. Milwaukee
is now sixty one and forty one on the season.
The Astros edged the Diamondbacks four to three. They completed
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a three game sweep. The Mets defeated the Angels six
to three, completing their three games sweep beat Alonso with
a three run shot in that one. The Marlins defeated
the Padres three to two, while the Rocky shut out
the Cardinals six to zero, their.
Speaker 10 (32:15):
First shutout in two hundred and twenty games. Go Rocky,
I about that.
Speaker 3 (32:21):
That's a hell of a run. It is why Justin
Verland are getting to win.
Speaker 9 (32:24):
Exactly, Justin Verlander did get a win today.
Speaker 10 (32:28):
That is not a typo one. In eight offseason.
Speaker 9 (32:32):
Cha's in the Giants defeated.
Speaker 10 (32:34):
Atlanta nine to three. WNBA News.
Speaker 9 (32:37):
Caitlin Clark, still still dealing with that right growin injury,
ruled out for Thursday's game against the Aces. In College hoops,
USC's five star freshmen Elijah Arena suffered a meniscus tear,
according to Chris Haynes, and he is expected to be
sidelined for at least six to eight months. This is
Gilbert Arena's son who was also in that car accident
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not long ago where we was put in a coma
of the smoking elation and he was just allowed about
two weeks ago to go back to basketball activities and
he heard his knee so rough start for him.
Speaker 10 (33:08):
Back to you guys.
Speaker 3 (33:09):
Well, but back on a court and positive steps in
that regard.
Speaker 10 (33:13):
Now, sure, totally.
Speaker 4 (33:14):
I just think this will be a little bit should
we say, easier to get past, Not that we wish
ill on anybody.
Speaker 3 (33:21):
He's been through hell. Here's the next challenge. Yes, absolutely,
thanks Monci Dodgers.
Speaker 4 (33:27):
Also not to bury the lead Tyler Glass now gave
them seven strong that's too straight starts in a much
beleaguered rotation where he's gone well for them and I
don't think any relievers got hurt and they didn't have
any errors.
Speaker 9 (33:41):
Yes, correct, and twelve strikeouts for Tyler exactly?
Speaker 5 (33:44):
Did you know that Verlander toocked me off eighteen years ago?
And I'm still mad A love that you're still about
it eighteen years in running. It was like the eighteen
year anniversary, Kenne, what did he do?
Speaker 3 (33:54):
So that would have been? Yeah, let's let's tease that.
Speaker 6 (33:58):
There.
Speaker 4 (33:58):
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Speaker 4 (34:43):
Welcome back in It's Fox Sports Radio Jason Smith Show
with Me Mike Harmon. No Jason denied Dan Byer in
his stead. He'll be with me again tomorrow night. Catch
all the podcast stuff as it goes up. As we
finish up the show a little later on, Justin'll have
that up, including the story that I'm waiting with baited
breath for we teased a head. We'll get to our
(35:04):
fantasy top five running backs here in a moment, pass
catchers out of the backfield and heroes zero running back.
Speaker 3 (35:11):
I think not.
Speaker 4 (35:13):
But before we had a little bit of a Justin
Verlander excited utterance of that guy.
Speaker 3 (35:20):
So it became a story.
Speaker 4 (35:21):
And now it goes back to an All Star Game
occurrence of years ago. Dan Byer still having taking some
umbridge with Justin Verlander, who earned his first win in
seventeen starts today.
Speaker 5 (35:33):
Yeah, and to the long and short of it, he
was a jerk to me. He was just just a
jerk to me in the clubhouse. And this is how
it happened. This is in light of Mike Rabel, you know,
taking Ben Volan to task for not listening in his
press conference.
Speaker 6 (35:47):
You may think it's along those lines.
Speaker 5 (35:49):
Long story short mic All Star Festivities two thousand and
seven in San Francisco. We flew from LA to San
Francisco that day, so home run derby is that day.
What ends up happening is you gather information and you
gather your sound during the BP prior to home run derby.
(36:10):
So we were delayed. My luggage was lost on a
forty five minute flight. Don't ask, I have no idea.
We didn't get to the ballpark until after the player
availability was over. I know this is all boring, but
it leads to the point when the home run derby
is happening. Most of the players have left. You have
no idea what all stars are actually going to be around,
(36:32):
except for maybe the couple of guys who were in
the home run derby. Well, Justin Verlander happened to be
one of the players sticking around, and it was in
the clubhouse.
Speaker 6 (36:40):
Went up to him, asked him a question. They had
lost the.
Speaker 5 (36:43):
Previous year to the Cardinals in the World Series, and
I just asked them a question of like, you know,
does this game with home field advantage because it was
on the line, does it matter because you were in
the situation last year? And he goes, boy, these are
some real original questions. Wow, And so I was like,
now you didn't know my backstory. But also I could
(37:06):
have said, what happened when you lost the World Series
last year?
Speaker 6 (37:09):
Yeah? Could have been that question, right, could have been much.
Speaker 4 (37:11):
More dim still dancing around in your head? Is it
take you? Do you take it to bed with Jerk?
Speaker 5 (37:16):
I was asking generic questions to get my sort of
responsibilities done. Sure for gathering sound Was it the greatest
question in the world?
Speaker 7 (37:27):
No?
Speaker 6 (37:28):
Did I think it was apropos for the situation? Yes?
And he had a problem with it.
Speaker 5 (37:33):
So sorry, if you had to answer it a couple
of times before earlier in the day. Sorry, but eighteen
years later, I still have a problem with it.
Speaker 3 (37:41):
Yeah, just say this time it counts and it shouldn't
tip your cap and walk away.
Speaker 6 (37:45):
Never I've never cheered for him ever since that point.
Speaker 3 (37:50):
And there you go.
Speaker 4 (37:51):
Nastro's and the Tigers. So I didn't like him because
he was in division against the white shirt.
Speaker 3 (37:57):
So now hey, he could be I can put them
on my long hand and.
Speaker 6 (38:01):
On another sixteen start non win streak.
Speaker 3 (38:04):
There you go.
Speaker 4 (38:04):
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(38:26):
I'm good.
Speaker 5 (38:27):
I also want to say this, Mike, You're in this
business enough and we're fortunate enough to talk with a
lot of different athletes. I get asked this question more
by other people than maybe any other question outside of
do you know Terry Bradshaw because we work for that one.
Speaker 6 (38:48):
By my family, I think every relative has asked me, Oh,
that's the case. I don't. I don't.
Speaker 4 (38:53):
I still get ticket requests twenty years later, I get nothing.
I don't get tickets from me let alone to give
to you.
Speaker 5 (38:59):
Who's the nicest athlete you've had to deal with? Is
the question I get? And then I get who was?
Who didn't you like? And I have I have an
answer for each of those, like that nicest athlete, Cole
Hamil's Philadelphia Phillies Okay, yes, absolutely rudiest, Justin Verlander, Detroit Tigers,
(39:23):
like it goes boom boom, boom boom. I am just
as excited to say Justin Verlander as I'm just as
excited to say Cole Hamil's. Cole Hamil's nice guy, Justin
Verlander rude to me? You have you have one, You've
got it. Everybody does a lot of the nice ones.
Speaker 3 (39:38):
I try to the jerky ones like I don't.
Speaker 6 (39:41):
I don't go to any names.
Speaker 3 (39:43):
No, but I don't.
Speaker 4 (39:43):
I don't go to as many events anymore, Like what's
upon a time they were, you know, regular, and it
would be chasing a guy, and he'd said I didn't
have time, like in terms of being really being jerky
to me, I don't know that I have a guy.
Speaker 5 (39:55):
Here's also my whole point. And I'm and I know
we're probably not going to get the fan of I'll
get to fantasy next hour, that's fine, But because it's
a one on one situation and I feel like he
thought he could probably get away with it.
Speaker 6 (40:07):
So that's why I have absolutely no problem are out here.
Speaker 5 (40:11):
Eighteen years later because you thought you could get away
with it, You thought you could be a jerk, you
thought you could be snarky in that way when there
was no reason to. That's the reason why. And I
don't need an apology. I don't need anything. I'm obviously
not over it because it's been eighteen years, but I
don't even care about being over it. That's that's that's
(40:33):
why I talk about it. That's why I name names.
Speaker 4 (40:36):
Now I'm trying to think of circumstances. But the one
has a funny story to it.
Speaker 6 (40:40):
Okay, so was.
Speaker 4 (40:42):
One of the time I was used to travel to
super Bowl events on my own time and my own
dime back in the day before working at nights here
Fox Sports Radio. And it's like trying to build a
name in the business. Used to run and run into
Jay Glazer and things whatever, and occasionally you get yourself
invited to a party.
Speaker 3 (41:01):
It's like cool, so go to.
Speaker 4 (41:02):
One and uh, well it got mocked by by a
series of legends, but it makes for a great story.
It was a jerky move in the moment because like, hey,
little man, you know Blank Newton, little reporter, you know
media guy. But then it makes for a great story
because they basically said that well that God had smited
(41:22):
me by making me wide in shoulder but small in stature,
with not so great terms attached Rump and later on
in the party, Snooker performed at like three am for
anybody that was still there, he showed up.
Speaker 3 (41:36):
I was like, eh, we gotta other.
Speaker 4 (41:38):
It's like turning back, hey little man, you want to
spot by the rails that you can see It's like
so former Eagles quarterback Chicago kid, Yeah, at you McNab,
there you go.
Speaker 3 (41:52):
But it's a great story between him and Ray Lewis.
They mocked me. It was great.
Speaker 6 (41:56):
Well, at least he got a front row seat out
of it.
Speaker 3 (41:59):
That's I did drop it like it was hot, So
it was good.
Speaker 5 (42:02):
I get it. Athletes are out for dinner. They don't
want to be bothered. Somebody doesn't sound an autograph And
to the worst person in the world, that's not what
this setting was. This is a locker room where you're
just asking an innocent question. That's all you're trying to do,
just trying to do your job.
Speaker 3 (42:15):
Just give me fifteen seconds.
Speaker 4 (42:17):
And then after I stopped recording, that helped me to
go blank myself.
Speaker 6 (42:20):
Sure, right, So.
Speaker 5 (42:20):
Somebody had asked me that two questions earlier because I
was the only one talking to him.
Speaker 3 (42:25):
Completely get it.
Speaker 6 (42:26):
That's why Mike Vrabel got mad because he just talked
about it.
Speaker 5 (42:28):
Nobody was listening. Yep, And so like, I get that
portion of it. But if I'm new to it, I've
got my own duties to figure out.
Speaker 4 (42:34):
It's new to your situation. It's like the reruns on
NBC back.
Speaker 3 (42:38):
In the day.
Speaker 4 (42:39):
If you didn't see it, it's new to you. How
about a guy that's saying it's unacceptable.
Speaker 6 (42:43):
I haven't
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