All Episodes

November 8, 2023 40 mins

Jason Smith and Mike Harmon have some fun with NFL LB Blake Martinez and his Pokémon Card situation.

See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Mark as Played
Transcript

Episode Transcript

Available transcripts are automatically generated. Complete accuracy is not guaranteed.
Speaker 1 (00:00):
Thanks for listening to The Jason Smith Show with Mike
Harmon podcast. Be sure to catch us live every weeknight
ten pm to two am Eastern seven to eleven pm
Pacific on Fox Sports Radio. Find your local station for
The Jason Smith Show with Mike Harmon at Foxsports Radio
dot com, or stream us live every night on the
iHeartRadio app by searching FSR.

Speaker 2 (00:22):
Let's give this.

Speaker 3 (00:23):
You're listening to Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 2 (00:31):
Fox Sports Radio The Jason Smith Show with my best
friend Mike Harmon. So there it is that John Wick
open with John Wick saying more lines in the open
than he did in all four of the movies, back
to back to back to back.

Speaker 4 (00:45):
Well also spreading lies. Uh, one of the most powerful
and attractive man on the show.

Speaker 1 (00:50):
You can't keep saying that. You've been saying that for
like nine years. I'm a powerful and attractive man. No,
it's some time for somebody else to say that. You
need a new phrase. You had a new freak. You
can't say powerful and attraction of man anymore.

Speaker 4 (01:00):
I'm the best looking guy on the show.

Speaker 1 (01:02):
Okay, there, well, there you going now? And now maybe
that makes into the next open. I don't know, maybe
it will. But because Alex Tyscher worked very hard of
that open, and because our our voiceover guy is not
getting paid, because Tyscher decided I'm going to be the voice.
Uh yeah, Bob, we have a very special judge and
jury situation for you. Alex. There is a sports store

(01:24):
for the first time in your life. What are you now?
Twenty three to twenty four?

Speaker 2 (01:27):
Turn twenty five?

Speaker 1 (01:29):
Okay, I know, I know you're actually older than that too. Okay,
I actually have a sports story. Okay, a sports story.
Shot that is, there's no one here at Fox Sports Radio,
not me, not Mike, not Dan Patrick, or Colin or
Ben or Doug Gottlieb or the Odd Couple or coven Rich. Nobody,

(01:51):
nobody has the analysis and the expertise to give us
an answer on this sports story that we're going to
do in a few minutes. There's nobody. You are the
only one who is the most qualified. Do you give
us this answer?

Speaker 2 (02:05):
Sounds like my whole life has been leading up to
this one shopping moment, So.

Speaker 1 (02:08):
Don't screw it up, Tipped. Meanwhile, it's not college basketball.

Speaker 4 (02:14):
Don't come on basketball.

Speaker 2 (02:17):
Come on, you know only Tyser even went to college.
You go to college?

Speaker 1 (02:21):
Did you go to college?

Speaker 2 (02:22):
Okay, what is that like? After party of high school?

Speaker 1 (02:24):
Exactly what? Everybody talks about where they went to school,
but you never talk about where you went to school.

Speaker 2 (02:29):
Yeah, what's so cool about talking about where I went
to school?

Speaker 1 (02:31):
Where'd you go to school?

Speaker 2 (02:33):
I went to a school?

Speaker 1 (02:34):
What school? What school?

Speaker 4 (02:35):
Is that? Just trying to make the point that we're
all in the same place.

Speaker 2 (02:39):
I went to the School of hard Knock kind of
classes took a long time. I went to the School
of the Streets, and I got an a graduate asked
me to do these SATs and stuff. It was crazy.

Speaker 4 (02:49):
Look at the scar I've gotten from the School of
Hard Knocks.

Speaker 1 (02:55):
It's all up and down my face. It's like, did
see it?

Speaker 4 (02:58):
Well, it's like the advice I gave wrong on his
way out. Well, find the biggest kid. No, no, wait,
you're going to a school. No fine, find the teacher.

Speaker 2 (03:09):
Tys just got the scar on his face like ray
Leonta and Annibal when they cut his head open to
eat his bread. Wow, that's a sorry spoiler if that's
what happens. Yeah. Uh poor Paul Kredler. Uh So, Speaking
of college, the latest college football playoff rankings came out
tonight and the top eight teams unchanged from a week ago. Right,
Ohio State is number one, no surprise, Georgia number two,

(03:32):
Michigan number three, Florida State number four. The next four
teams also same as a week ago, Washington, Oregon, Texas, Alabama.
Where nine weeks in, everybody's got two, three, four games
potentially to go depending on on what you have. That
the top eight teams, so there's still time for chaos.
Do I believe Ohio State's the best team in the country. No?

Speaker 1 (03:52):
Do they have the best resume? Yes? In the end,
it's okay. It really doesn't matter what the order is
right now. The biggest thing to learn from where we
sit right now. We're gonna expand on this over the
course of the next few minutes, is if what's going
on now with the playoff rankings don't tell you that
the twelve team playoff is what's needed. Nothing, Well, this

(04:13):
should be the end of the discussion of boy, I
really think four teams might have been the best. No,
this is showing us clearly we need a twelve team playoff,
which we're getting next year. Right, look at what we
have right now you have the top four teams Ohio State, Georgia, Michigan,
Florida State. Who are the next four teams. There's no

(04:34):
Cincinnati in there, there's no low power five team. There
are heritage, good and undefeated teams. Out of the next
four teams, Washington with a Heisman Trophy candidate, Oregon eight
and one Heisman Trophy candidate, Texas eight and one, Alabama
eight and one. Number ten is Penn State, who could
find their way up if they beat Michigan in a
couple of weeks. You have really good top shelf power

(04:59):
five teams that are on the outside looking in. And
this is the only reason we haven't gotten this twelve
team playoff earlier is because for the fourteen playoffs and
during this era, it's just worked out where we have
conversations in November that by the time we get to
the middle of December, well they're out. Well, how can

(05:19):
we take Cincinnati over this power five team? Well, guess
what they lost? They now have two losses. They can't
make it. It's worked out to the point where when
you're debating between the fourth and fifth spot, if you're
saying Texas A and M or Cincinnati Okay, is it
really that big a deal. Now, it doesn't matter, we
can withstand that. But when you're having a conversation about

(05:40):
who the fourth team is and that's one loss Oregon,
one lost Texas, one loss Alabama, these are programs that
can't be told no without repercussions. If this had happened
earlier in the fourteen playoff era, we would have had
a bigger playoff the next year. It would have been, hey,
can't have Alabama get left out in they can't have
Alabama get left out A one loss Alabama at number five,

(06:03):
we want more teams in the playoff. And guess what,
the next year there would have been more teams in
the playoff. This is the first time it's happened to
the point where everything the NCAA does with the four
team college football playoff would be in jeopardy. Now, of
course we're getting the twelve team playoff next year. So instead,
this is just the final sign that tells you, hey,
the twelve team playoff is what we really need, because

(06:24):
when you're talking about keeping out Cincinnati, A and M somebody, Okay,
no one really cares. That's fine. Yeah, they're a good team,
they play in the Big twelve. They had a good year.
But yeah, there was a big deal. If we keep
mount No, but Alabama, Texas or oh yeah, all those teams.
If one of them get left out, or a one
loss Ohio State or Michigan team gets left out because
another one loss team gets in ahead of them, then

(06:46):
we got big time problems. So this should be the
this should be the poll in the year that finally
tells you we're doing the right thing. Going to twelve
teams well suck.

Speaker 4 (06:54):
Sometimes change is very very slow. But like water, e road,
raw roads rock, right, nothing's happened, and nothing happened. Oh crap,
that thing just blew apart, right, and that damn is gone,
and now you got yourself a flood. That's kind of
what happened with college sports as a whole. And when
we talk about nil these conference realignments, right PAC twelve,

(07:17):
it did everything wrong. And as it's getting ready to
break up, here's all these teams that are competing, like,
damn it. We could have held on another year, maybe
we could have found some way to keep the band together. Well, no, instead,
you move forward and for the college football playoff, the
money's been exponential, especially as gambling got legalized state to state,

(07:42):
you start adding all these other revenue streams that flow
in the NIL deals, these coalitions, collectives or whatever you're
calling them, school to school like, it's just a whole
different operation. NCAA has less hold and you're looking at
how do you make the best TV show? And let's
call what it is, and we have for as long

(08:03):
as you and I have been on Fox Sports Radio together,
it's all about creating the best television show, which means, yes,
if in the years past, the high profile team somehow
got left out because the party got crashed by a
couple of how should we say, lower level teams at

(08:24):
least from the eyes of the blue blood programs to
steal a term from college basketball for a moment, that, yeah,
there would have been big change, right, the SEC would
have been left out of one extra spot here or there. Yeah,
there'd be hell to pay. We know that. Now, you
solve that because as long as you're not sitting there
at two and perhaps in some seasons when we have

(08:46):
this full realignment going on these next couple of years, yeah,
it might be a three loss team that we're arguing
about for the twelve spot and you know what, I
welcome that argument. I welcome the parsing of a schedule
and breaking it down into the minutiha of out gaining
teams on a weekly basis or eking out wins. For

(09:07):
the purpose of this argument, we'll bring in Iowa football
or the Pittsburgh Steelers, whichever you want to talk about.

Speaker 1 (09:16):
The answer is two offenses who are terrible, Yes, thank
you all.

Speaker 4 (09:19):
But they still win games.

Speaker 1 (09:21):
I'll take I'll take bad offenses for five hundred. Who
are the New York Jets. I'll take bad offenses for
one thousand.

Speaker 4 (09:29):
You just cleared the category. Yeah, so it goes through
that process. When you get to twelve teams. Well, now
we're probably gonna include what safely ten blue bloods. And
for a while it looked like Notre Dame was gonna
be there. Everybody was celebrating cash for everybody on a
whole other level, and well Notre Dame slops off. It

(09:50):
doesn't mean that the overall picture isn't great, but they
were a nice addition to the party for a while there.
And your guy Sam Sam Sam Sam Sam. So it's
and then they go lose to Dabo after Dabbo gets
all crazy but it's it's the fun evolution of the
game and the recognition that for storylines for national interest

(10:13):
in the month of November. Yeah, we needed more teams, right,
Otherwise it's a all right, let me know when the
bulls are announced in a lot of cases, because with
one loss, your team's been eliminated. Now you could be
a two loss team and still be fighting. And maybe
in this new fangled world that we're getting into with

(10:34):
college football, from a schedule perspective, yeah, you're not gonna
be going directional you multiple times to the well because
it's gonna penalize you. Even even more so when we're
adding more teams. I know that sounds insane, but when
we're parsing through strength, schedule has always been a big component,

(10:56):
but stacking wins was great. Now maybe maybe you need
another good win up top, or maybe the conferences are
just strong enough to where that eliminates it. But you
know that remains to be seen as these schools move
and have to change maybe some of their recruiting philosophies,
et cetera. But for us, we win the college football game.

(11:16):
It wins because in November, instead of just worried about
whether Creed's doing halftime for the Cowboys.

Speaker 1 (11:22):
No one's worried about that. There's no one worried. Don't
worry Josh Dobbs.

Speaker 4 (11:25):
Do you see what Josh Dobbs did a highlight reel
and then he included himself, super imposed himself as a
member of Creed with his head. No, he's really good.
But just the idea that in November, we're always turning
our attention to all right, what's the playoff chase, who's
in the playoff mix, who's in the playoff bubble? Who's

(11:48):
uh eliminated on the graphics for the Sunday morning shows?
My team's still there? Are we still in the hunt? Nah,
we're on the outside looking in. All right, let's talk
about the draft and start really getting in. Now we're
talking about guys playing into November, and some games that
have take on a whole other meaning not only for

(12:09):
the teams that are competing to be in the twelve,
but your schedule watching based on the wins in the
final weeks of what really constitutes still a good win
versus Hey, we beat him in week two and then
everybody got hurt and they went three to nine. Because
we know what that looks like the optic is wait, wait,
what's that team? Now? They're terrible. Now look at the

(12:31):
human nature.

Speaker 1 (12:32):
Now look at the other part of this too, because
what also plays into the four versus twelve is if
you're saying, right now, hey, Washington, Oregon, Texas, Alabama getting
left out. Boy, that's really tough because you're leaving out
a team right now that could win the national championship. Right,
Texas could beat any of these teams win the national title.

(12:53):
So could Alabama, so could probably Oregon. All right, Washington
as well. All these teams could win the national title.
It's really hard to justify leaving out a team that
can win the national championship. Now, the flip side of
it is, once you get to twelve and you're saying, okay,
those last couple spots right now are Louisville and Oregon State.
Are you really gonna go crazy that hey Missouri or

(13:15):
Oklahoma State or Kansas or a national championship team LSUS
A national championship team. No, you're arguing now just about
snubs like the NCAA tournament. Nobody gets snubbed from the
NCAA tournament that can win it all. Do teams get
snubbed that can make it to the sweet sixteen, absolutely right,
you can see that. But no one gets snubbed that
can go and win the national championship. So the argument

(13:38):
of how much better you're making the field by saying
instead of arguing we're leaving out a team that can
win it all, now it's well, we're leaving out a
couple of snubs. Okay, that makes the argument easier to say, hey,
twelve kind of works. And yeah, what you're doing when
you're letting twelve teams in is everything is interesting. You
want to be ranked higher if you're in the top twelve.
You want to play an easier game. You want to

(13:59):
try to get into the top twelve. And at the
end of the season, you're talking about the last two weekends.
Instead of one or two games mattering each weekend, you're
talking about six games or seven games mattering each weekend.
And well, I gotta make sure I watch you because Utah.
If Utah loses and Missouri loses but Kansas wins, Kansas
can jump up. You're talking about more chaos, more eyeballs

(14:21):
on college football and making it more a national sport
instead of just hey, every year, it's two teams in
the Midwest and two teams in this out and maybe
we get one team out of the West, and that's it.
All of this is better. And that's why I said
this should end that discussion of Hey, four teams might
be the bet. Let's leave it elite and leave the
best for it. No, these are pretty good arguments to
show why going to twelve next year, I mean that's

(14:43):
really the right call. I think about it way around it.

Speaker 4 (14:45):
Most years, as you just referenced to Pac twelve one,
nobody watched it Pack twelve after dark for us, but
you know, the rest of the country didn't see a
lot of these teams. Oh and they also weren't playing
for anything in terms of national title slash playoffs. Now
you open it to twelve, and yes they go to
the SEC, Big ten, Big twelve, whatever. It's a different

(15:07):
world that we're gonna be living in next year. But
it's still the point of you expand you know, geographically
your reach and college football watching in earnest I mean
really takes on a whole other level, not just for
degenerate gamblers looking for PAC twelve or Hawaii football late
at night.

Speaker 1 (15:28):
Exit out bouta Fresca exit swollen Dome. The Jason smithser
with Mike Carmon Live from the tirec dot Com Studios.
Tonight show brought to you by Progressive Insurance. Progressive makes bundling
easy and affordable. Get a multi policy discount by combineding
your motorcycle, RV, boat, ATV and more all your protection
in one plays Bundle and Save at Progressive dot Com. Well.
Coming up next Alex Tyshert Judge jury and executioner. Plus

(15:52):
wait till we tell you what the Lakers and Lebron
James are really mad at after last night. That's next
right here, This is Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 3 (16:01):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
pm Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.

Speaker 1 (16:22):
Fox Sports Radio. The Jason Smith Show with My best
friend Mike Harmon HOBO live from the tirerac dot Com Studios.
Judge Jurian Executioner Alex Tischer coming up in a couple
of minutes. But again, nobody at Fox Sports Radio can
bring the level of expertise that Alex Tischer can to.

Speaker 4 (16:41):
This Sports story me, he's a wizard.

Speaker 1 (16:43):
But the Lakers are mad? How mad are they? The
Lakers reached out to the NBA League office to express
their concerns over several perceived mysfoulcals, particularly involving Lebron James
during their loss to the Heat last night. And yeah,
you see some of the replays in some of these fouls, like, boy,

(17:04):
Lebron got hacked. Boy oh Lebron, Wow, Lebron got it. Boy,
they come with demos, ripped the jersey off Lebron and
there was no foul. Now, look, there's games I've watched
with the Lakers where I go, boy, oh they got
they got the benefit of doubt on that call. I
don't know about that. But the main thing, and this
is probably maybe one of the biggest I don't want
to say mysteries, but one of the the more underreported

(17:27):
stories of the last twenty years in the NBA, is
that Lebron James does not get the superstar calls that
we like to talk about, Oh, superstar call, there for
Dwayne Wade, a superstar call, there for superstar call. Lebron
just doesn't get the superstar calls. And it baffles me
because that's always how the NBA has been officiated. Magic
got the calls, Larry got the calls, Michael got the calls.

(17:49):
Other stars have gotten the calls. Kobe got the calls.
Shaq was put on the free throw line because like, well,
we could call him, he's not gonna make him. We
could put him on the free throw line. It's okay.
But the fact that Lebron has played the entirety of
his career and he doesn't get those, especially when he
drives the lane as much as he does. He's not
somebody that's gonna sit back or take a jumper in traffic,

(18:10):
and no, he's gonna get to lane and get to
the hoop. And it really is it steinies me that
he hasn't gotten them. And at no point did he
ever get to the point where referees okay, that's a call, Yes,
a superstar call, that's Lebron, that's Lebron. It just never happened.
And in a league where we talk about officiating and
we kind of scratch our head and go, boy, the

(18:30):
NBA wants to continue to grow the game, and maybe
you know, the NBA knows who they're sending to officiate.
Certain playoff games. How Lebron James has never graduated to
give Lebron all the calls because every night he goes
for thirty eight, sixteen, and twelve, it's a great night
for the NBA, and it's never gotten to that point.
And it's just it's something that for twenty years, it

(18:52):
just is so underreported and not talked enough about.

Speaker 4 (18:56):
Yeah, I mean there are circumstances whereby I think you've
seen some calls. You know, the Superstar continuation one going
all the way back to Magic Johnson has always baffled me,
like we get an extra couple of steps after some
you know, guy slaps at the ball and then you
lay it up or dunk it, and it's like, wait,
that counts as continuation. I've always had an issue with that.

(19:21):
But certainly when you're bigger, faster, stronger, and the expectation
is that you're just running through guys and they're bouncing
off you. I mean you've seen it at the kids level, right,
you coach your daughter's soccer games for years and watch
how kids get played and don't get calls because maybe
you get really jacked up, but you don't fall down. Right,

(19:44):
It's like Wow, you got fouled, well, but she didn't
hit the turf and start rolling around and looking for
a call. So you don't get it. We've gotten for
my daughter's team right now, they've got two kids that
refuse to go down, and she's one of them. Like
she may get absolutely rough dub, but she will hold
her ground. And it's like, well, how did you not
get the call? I'm like, dude, at some point you

(20:05):
got to take the gamble that the whistle will come
if you go to the turf, and she won't do it.
But and with Lebron James, some of it is the
same way. Right Anthony Davis is on the ground, rolling
around after every bit of contact.

Speaker 1 (20:17):
He's going to the locker room. He's coming back the cord.

Speaker 4 (20:19):
And I hope he's okay. I don't mean to make
light of it since he has, you know, the groin injury,
hip injury, whatever they're trying to call it at this point.
But the idea being that you know, when he goes flying,
Lebron doesn't like he likes to stand and stare down
guys that tried to muscle up on him. So when

(20:41):
you do that consistently, it's no surprise, you're not getting
a call.

Speaker 1 (20:44):
Yeah, well, it's also hard because the guy, the guy
is built unlike any other plants in the NBA. Yeah,
it's hard for him to go down. I think referees
to go Really, he knocked you down. Really, the guy
knocked you down.

Speaker 4 (20:55):
You guy knocked Now, now you're gonna get called for
flopping and it's gonna be a technical foul.

Speaker 1 (20:59):
Yeah, knocked you down. And I'm not I'm not six five,
one seventy five, all right, I'm a I'm a truck.

Speaker 2 (21:03):
I'm you know, I go two fifty. You know you
think two fifty on a light night is what I
can go. And I can still blaze through you, So
you know, I get that part of it. But still
it's with Lebron James's at never at any point did
he not when he was younger, not when he was established,
not now that he's you know, in his latter days
in the NBA, I had no point did he ever

(21:25):
get the superstar calls?

Speaker 4 (21:26):
How about you do the conspiracy thing. They didn't want
him to catch Jordan at any point start getting you know,
even more points by being living at the free throw line.

Speaker 1 (21:36):
They're gonna start throwing him out of games. I didn't
do anything. I'm sorry you're out. I didn't like how
you stood there on the opening tip, but I didn't
say that I've done matter you stood there. You're very aggressive.
I'm throwing you out of the game.

Speaker 4 (21:46):
Ladies and gentlemen, here for the ceremonial. First first tip
is Billy Crystal. But this is game seven. I'm sorry
you're out.

Speaker 1 (21:54):
Lebron saying it's the Western Conference Finals.

Speaker 4 (21:58):
Just send you to one, two three.

Speaker 1 (22:02):
Coming up in ninety seconds. Judge jury executioner Alex feishert.

Speaker 2 (22:10):
But first, Isaac Lowencron has what's trending in the wide
world of sports.

Speaker 1 (22:13):
I Love Jason and Mike.

Speaker 5 (22:15):
The latest college football playoff rankings were released on Tuesday
and tonight. Ohio State number one, followed by Georgia, Michigan,
and Florida State. Washington is fifth, Oregon is sixth. Multiple
outlets report that Michigan has claimed the Big Ten that
staff members at Ohio State, Rutgers, and Purdue shared information
about Michigan's signals before the Wolverines played Perdue in the

(22:37):
twenty twenty two Big Ten Championship game. In the NFL,
Multiple Outlets report the LA Rams signing free agent quarterback
Carson Wentz to back up Matthew Stafford, who's dealing with
the sprained right thumb in Major League Baseball. The Athletic
reporting the Los Angeles Angels were interviewing Ron Washington Tuesday
night for their managing job. Washington won two American League

(22:58):
pennants with the Texas Rangers when he managed them from
two thousand and seven through twenty fourteen. Finally, if you're
a sports fan, you're also likely a fan of Kevin Harlan,
the legendary announcer for CBSTNT and Westwood One. While also
starting to trend, a guy named Josh decided to give

(23:20):
his order at a drive through window as if he
was Kevin Harlan.

Speaker 1 (23:25):
Listen, I.

Speaker 6 (23:28):
Just saw man flying, galloped and chiseling his way through
the drive through lane. I'd like a small iced green
tea with two pumps of sugar.

Speaker 2 (23:39):
Anything else right between the eyes.

Speaker 3 (23:42):
That's it.

Speaker 1 (23:42):
You're listening to the NBA on TNT presented by State Farm.

Speaker 2 (23:49):
Anything else that will complete my order right between the eyes.

Speaker 5 (23:56):
The window, and kudos to the lady working the window
for being in a good sport you guys.

Speaker 1 (24:00):
Can I get you anything else? Can I get you
anything else? The man was fair chested, I get you
anything else? There?

Speaker 4 (24:06):
You know.

Speaker 1 (24:07):
The other thing is you heard the right between the
eyes of Big Kevin Harlan. Another big one is he
likes to tell you when when a running back is
running over the left or right tackle, that's a big
Kevin Harley. There goes awesome. Eckler over right tackle, Eckler
over the left tackle, brace Hall over the right tackle.
And then you watch the play after you go. He
kind of was between the garden. They said, okay, but fine,

(24:28):
fine over the right tackle, over the left tack.

Speaker 4 (24:30):
Oh got nobody paints the picture of the uniforms being worn.
And wait, minite Kevin Harlan for the radio audience during
football season.

Speaker 1 (24:39):
Wait where the hell did the guy go that he
was ordering a green tea in a drive through? I
mean where where the Starbucks?

Speaker 4 (24:45):
Where the hell coffee bean?

Speaker 5 (24:47):
It was actually dunkin Donuts. Oh but I think dunkin Donuts.
I think green tea. Sure like a green tea right
between the eyes.

Speaker 4 (24:57):
That guy is trunk. Thank you.

Speaker 1 (24:59):
I loo appreciate it. By thanks all right, So now
it is time for the expertise of Alex Teischer.

Speaker 2 (25:05):
We need it here for this story. Well, it's about
Sime used my talents.

Speaker 1 (25:08):
All right.

Speaker 2 (25:08):
Do you know who Blake Martinez is? Absolutely not?

Speaker 1 (25:11):
Okay, you know who lead to Lap?

Speaker 4 (25:12):
You do? I?

Speaker 1 (25:13):
Okay, Leeland de Lap who works here. The only guy
I've ever seen wearing a Blake Martinez jersey. Yeah, he's
got a Green Bay Packers Blake Martinez jersey.

Speaker 4 (25:21):
You know this story, ty shirt. You just don't think
you do yet.

Speaker 1 (25:24):
So Blake Martinez was a linebacker for a long time
in the NFL, and he retired, but now he's coming
out of retirement to play for the Panthers. Wow, okay, okay,
there you okay, it's I'm not up to your expertise yet.
I'm just setting the stage. That's so impressive. So yeah, okay, sure.
So he's twenty nine and he retired a couple of
years ago because he wanted to start a Pokemon card business.

(25:47):
He was going to leave the NFL. Didn't want to
get hit anymore. You know, I was ready to want
to have his body and everything else.

Speaker 2 (25:53):
I think I do know this guy.

Speaker 1 (25:54):
He went Okay, so he went into the Pokemon card business,
and he made a lot of money on right. Earlier
this year, he has been permanently banned from a site
where he was selling his cards on. Yes, he sold
his cards on what Not, which is an online you
know what whatnot is?

Speaker 2 (26:10):
Yeah, I do drip. That's another one.

Speaker 1 (26:12):
All right. Is that a real place?

Speaker 4 (26:13):
Yeah, it is a real place, all right, because Drip
watched his streams. Yeah, animated in very good.

Speaker 1 (26:18):
Okay, because usually say drip is like when in a
new bunch of hats, draw, Oh look at the drip off.

Speaker 2 (26:22):
Or if you're flexing with a lot of jewelry, you
got a lot of drip on, okay. Or if I
don't close the faucet, I go. So he's on what Not,
an online social marketplace that allows users to sell products
to each other. He was on there selling Pokemon cards.
He was banned because he was accused of scamming buyers
by selling cards and getting them out to people who

(26:47):
they say it wasn't the card I ordered, they were overpaying. Yes,
so he was potentially, according to this report here, allegedly
scamming people by making money and not producing the cards he.

Speaker 1 (26:59):
Was opposed to.

Speaker 2 (27:00):
I also heard too he was doing this guessing game
where people had to guess the next energy on the
card from the Pokemon packs, and he would switch the
packs out because he knew people would guess them right too. Oh,
it was a really big scandal. Really okay, all right,
so now here, here's a question for you.

Speaker 1 (27:16):
Number one on a scale of one to ten, one
being it's not that big a deal. Everybody doesn't like
stealing signs in college football. Ten being whoa, this is
the worst thing. We're getting rid of draft picks like Spygate.
Where is this story? Now that you know, Blake Martinez,
you know this, How bad is this story in the
in the gaming community, in the sports gaming community, How

(27:37):
big a deal?

Speaker 2 (27:38):
I would say, out of one through ten, it's of fifty.
What Really, this is probably the most heinous thing you
could do as a card seller.

Speaker 4 (27:45):
Oh, something that's happening a lot in the sports cards
over there.

Speaker 2 (27:48):
Because think about it, Jason, it's you. You're you're based
on trust and somebody coming to you for the goods
of merchandising and giving them the fair availability to pull
these cards they're searching for. Right hmm. Here's a trick though.
He came out with a game where you actually have
to pay a little bit more for each pack that
you have to guess for these certain type of energies
and if you guess them, you win like these extra

(28:09):
bonus prizes or whatever it is. But he cheated the system.
So like if I said, what's it end, give me
an energy. So for example, there's like grasswater, fire, lightning something.

Speaker 1 (28:17):
If I say grass and it was grass, he would
replace it with water, and.

Speaker 2 (28:22):
Yeah, you didn't win because he would buy a case
of Blister packs, which are single, individually box packs over
like a Booster which has thirty six packs in it,
so that's random. But boosters there's a set rotation in
every single blister, so he knew he would switch them
as soon as somebody was catching on to it.

Speaker 1 (28:38):
So this is like if Harmon's selling cards, which is
what he does, and he says, hey, if you guess
the White Sox player that I have in this, you'll
get an extra something And I say, oh, I know
it's ron Kittle, and the answers ron Kittle, and Harmon
switched it says no, the answers ron carkabis, Yes, got it.

Speaker 2 (28:54):
See here's the bigger thing. Like if someone would do that.
It is card counting right as a casino, so you
know how people can't count. It's frowned upon. Sure it is, yes, yeah,
you can get real big trouble for that. Sure right
right the house always win. Those are your left hand too.
Mike knows this too. If you're selling on these third
party sites, you're already charging people well over MSRP. So

(29:16):
say like these packs are two bucks, three bucks in
a store three bucks. He's charging five to six bucks
for these packs. So he's already winning. And then he
goes to the extreme and cheats the people. That's like
playing blackjack and they take two aces out of the set.
That's crazy. So he's over billing like in the firm. Yes,
he's doing a lot of bad things.

Speaker 4 (29:33):
So you got profit, but also the scam. Right, this
has happened to a bunch of guys have been caught
doing this for Pokemon, for sports cards whatever. It's like, well,
we didn't get the big insert out of that. It's
like wait a minute, go back and check the videotape.
Yeah you did, but you lied to the guy. Or
you send something out and it's like, well where's that
hit I got?

Speaker 2 (29:53):
Right?

Speaker 4 (29:53):
You bid on some of the stuff that's you bid
on teams.

Speaker 1 (29:57):
Well wait a minute, but how can how can you
hide the answer if like you you have to see
the answer on video right and go, hey, here's the So.

Speaker 2 (30:03):
That's the big thing that happened against him. There was
people that had video evidence of him reaching back and
like fumbling with the blisters.

Speaker 4 (30:09):
Indeed, But it's but it's playing games with how your
cameras are set up. Oh wond the visibility of what
you're doing on camera versus off Like, Hey, I open
a pack and you can kind of scan through it
real quick to see what's in there, and meanwhile you've
taken out an insert and replaced it with something else,
like oh, look at that. You just got this, you know,

(30:31):
low level. I don't want to disparage any individual player,
but hey, here's a Jimmy Garoppolo twenty twenty three insert.
Instead it was a Patrick Mahomes one per case thing
that should have been you know, received or whatever the
case was. And there's enough video evidence to show that
you're pulling this chicanery and switching stuff out off camera.

Speaker 1 (30:51):
So you could be like he could be on camera
and talking and gesturing with his right hand while he's
kind of movie you see is his left arm is
off cameras grabbing.

Speaker 4 (31:00):
He's grabbing from another stack of inserts just to fill underneath. Yeah,
it's it's all sorts of stuff. It's all slight of
hand crap, like you're watching the magicians in Las Vegas.

Speaker 2 (31:11):
Jason, do you have deep This is he was training
people who worked for him to do the same thing.

Speaker 1 (31:17):
That's crazy.

Speaker 2 (31:18):
Wow, wow, how allegend.

Speaker 4 (31:20):
It's wild?

Speaker 2 (31:21):
Okay, wow, And that sucks as somebody who sells cards.
That's like an outlet for people who aren't as privy
or lucky as we are. Because me and Micro in California, Mike,
you remember how we went to Frankinson's the collectibles. Yeah,
a lot of people don't have that ability, So people
don't they have to go online to find these packs,
and then you're literally stealing from people.

Speaker 4 (31:39):
It's crazy because there was a big deal. Like back
in the day, you know, several years ago, it was
pretty easy to go to any Walmart, any Target, whatever,
and there'd be packs. And now they're starting to show
up again. But you know, the quality, the ones that
you're looking for aren't necessarily there, and you may not
have a hobby shop. So you buy into these breaks,
or you go online and it's just a place to

(31:59):
have out right, you know, night out with your friends,
and then you come home it's like, hey, these guys
are online. They're kind of fun.

Speaker 5 (32:06):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (32:06):
And then you buy into some of these breaks because
there's a community that collects the same thing you do.
And then you got guys that are scamming people like
he allegedly did, and so many others that have been
banned from these sites, and they go site to site
hoping that they're not caught. Right, they go into TikTok
and change up the terminology because there's certain parts of

(32:28):
these things that are banned. Like it's it's a whole
whole other thing.

Speaker 1 (32:31):
All right, tyshert So being judge, jury executioner? Should he
be executed? Should he be excommunicated? Should he be banned?

Speaker 2 (32:39):
What?

Speaker 1 (32:39):
What's your what's the ruling?

Speaker 2 (32:40):
Well, I've thought long and hard about this, Jason, I've
consulted with my accomplice.

Speaker 1 (32:45):
Here.

Speaker 2 (32:45):
Can I ask him real quick?

Speaker 1 (32:46):
Jure?

Speaker 5 (32:46):
Going?

Speaker 2 (32:47):
All right, John, what do you think he should be exiled?
We should send him back to football?

Speaker 4 (32:53):
I think that's his Oh, you're not You're not giving
him the guillotine, like you talk about the guillotine.

Speaker 1 (32:57):
Least no guillotine. Apparently he's going to go back to again.

Speaker 4 (33:00):
Well, he's got to go earn some more money to
pay off any damages and create a new LLC that
he can't go.

Speaker 1 (33:05):
Wait, wait, you think he's gonna because he could get
activated by the Panthers because they said, hey, it's not
out of the realm of possibility. He could be activated
soon that he meets on the field a guy that
he scammed out and there's a big fight like Tommy
fam and Jock Peterson and they start punching each other
because hey, it's instead of a fantasy footfall, it's you
rooked me out of some Pokemon cards.

Speaker 4 (33:24):
Sure I had that they play the Saints at all.
I had that right because Williams, you've watched him in action,
right ty shirt. So he's a running back. He was
with the Packers. Guy's with the Saints. Yeah no, no, no,
But his big thing is no no. But Jamal Williams
is great because he collects Pokemon. So if you ask
him for an autograph and training camp or practices or

(33:45):
you see him around town like he'll he'll give you
the autograph, but he wants a Pokemon card for you
in real game.

Speaker 1 (33:53):
You just familiar with Jamal Williams.

Speaker 4 (33:55):
No, no, he would tell this guy.

Speaker 2 (33:59):
You really you're familiar with the Saints my wave. Absolutely, yes,
I am. He's the best running back they got, Jason. Okay,
he's not, but ok okay, sure, okay, yeah, pretty sure
he was for the first three weeks. Yeah, okay, So
there you go. So John Wick and Alex Tyshert say
that he should be exiled.

Speaker 1 (34:18):
Here we go. All right, ah boy, that story, that
story was fun. It'd be another nine years until we
need your expertise, Roun.

Speaker 4 (34:24):
That's okay, okay, that'll come up again soon. May not
be forged. Who was banned from sites? But you know
there's enough trading card in Pokemon Interchange here. We'll get there.

Speaker 1 (34:36):
Coming up next, Jason Smith Mike Harmon Live from the
tire Rag dot Com Studios, Big time quarterback news. Guess
who's out of the woods and back into the NFL.

Speaker 4 (34:46):
I'm so excited.

Speaker 1 (34:47):
Oh it's not timt. I love it is Fox.

Speaker 3 (34:50):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern seven
pm Pacific.

Speaker 1 (34:58):
He's Mike Harmon, I'm Dan Byer.

Speaker 6 (35:00):
We have a brand new fantasy football podcast called I
Want Your Flex. Twice a week, every Tuesday and Friday,
we come up with new episodes to not only look
back at what happened, what you need to do at
that minute, and also look ahead of what's coming up
in the fantasy football world.

Speaker 4 (35:17):
That's right, Dan. Every week we're gonna scour the waiver
wire to find the pickups to turbot boost your fantasy lineup,
sit starts, fantasy football players rankings to get you ready
to dominate the competition.

Speaker 6 (35:29):
Listen to I Want Your Flex with Mike Carmen and
me Dan Beyer on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts and
wherever you get your podcasts.

Speaker 2 (35:38):
Frostburg is gonna come back tomorrow after the Chargers game
and a day off and go what the hell happened
while I was gone?

Speaker 1 (35:44):
What the hell is going on?

Speaker 4 (35:45):
Here?

Speaker 6 (35:46):
You?

Speaker 4 (35:46):
The world got a little bit smaller.

Speaker 1 (35:49):
The Jason Smithson was Mike Carmen live from the tirag
dot com studios. Guess who's back back again? Out of
the woods. Into the NFL.

Speaker 4 (36:01):
I'm so excited.

Speaker 1 (36:02):
He was last seen posing over a buck a couple
of weeks ago. I love it. Now he'll be a
Ram DJ. Carson Wentz is back in the NFL, the
Rams signing the one time MVP candidate, three time franchise
quarterback to bring him back into the league after Matthew

(36:27):
Stafford last couple of weeks has been dinged up there
hoping Stafford can play. Not sold on Brett Rippon. Here
comes Carson Wentz back into the NFL.

Speaker 4 (36:36):
Well, they exited their shares of Brett Rippon.

Speaker 1 (36:40):
Uh, look this by signing Carson Wentz tells me that
he's going to play, right, that Stafford's not going to play.
Something's gonna happen, either shut him down or sit him out,
or he's not gonna come back, because why are you
going to the say hey, let's go get a guy
that's been out of the league to come back. He's
gonna play at some point. But the bigger thing thing
is this is now that looking at the Rams going

(37:03):
forward right, because I'll tell you exactly how this offseason
is gonna go. It's gonna be an ugly next few
months because the Rams clearly they've never gotten it going.
Every week I keep saying their offense is breaking out,
it's breaking out. It hasn't happened. And now you're looking
at Matthew Stafford, who has an awful contract, who has
an awful contract. They tried to get into renegotiating the offseason.

(37:24):
He wouldn't do it. Potentially we heard whispers, hey, they
were trying to trade him. Then it was no, no, no, no,
not try to trade Matthew Stafford.

Speaker 4 (37:30):
Probably because they protested that way too much. People told
him to beat it.

Speaker 1 (37:34):
Yeah, and that's why, Well, we can't let this get
out because no one wants them. So this will just
be bad. But you watch the next few months is
gonna be really ugly because the Rams know we have
to move on from him. They'll draft a quarterback, maybe
not in the first round, but in the second round,
someone they think, hey, can take over that we're not
spending a lot of money on. They will go draft

(37:55):
that quarterback who can be the Matthew Stafford air apparent,
and maybe they can make that move next year after
a few games, because if you take a guy in
the second round, you get your Jalen Hurts and there's
a lot of quarterbacks out there. There's six or seven
guys in the first round. Hey guess what, some guy's
gonna slip to the second round, or maybe they jump
up to get a guy and you're not spending a
lot of money on him because he's a second round
pick and after three or four weeks he can ascend

(38:18):
and be your starter. You're not paying him, So it's okay.

Speaker 2 (38:21):
You can swallow having Matthew Stafford on the team next
year if you wanted to do that. But that being said,
watch the next few months how the Rams try to
exhaust every avenue to move on from Matthew Stafford, whether
it's a trade or they try to convince him to
trade or to redo his contract or something else, or
maybe he wants to retire, and Kelly Stafford will podcast

(38:42):
about and say they're trying to push Matthew Stafford. Watch
because the Rams have no choice because Matthew Stafford is
thirty five, not healthy, They're not going anywhere, and he's
not the same quarterback he was even a couple of
years ago when they won the Super Bowl. This is
gonna be an ugly next few months for Stafford and
the Rams. As they really push their planning to move on,
and I mean that they are going to exhaust every

(39:03):
opportunity to move on, just like they did for Jared Goff. Hey,
we'll take Matthew Stafford, will give you some first round picks,
and Jared Goff go do it.

Speaker 1 (39:10):
We gotta be out from under him. They'll do the
same thing for Stafford.

Speaker 4 (39:13):
Yeah, I don't think anybody's signed up for bringing on
any bit of that contract. They're gonna have to eat
a ton of it if a trade were to go through.
But I mean, we look at your guy, Tommy DeVito,
number ten of rookie quarterbacks, Tommy Tommy Tynan. Look, we're
already into the mid forties of guys taking a snap,
and now Kyler Murray's coming back, So add another one,

(39:36):
another shrimp on the old barbie there and we look
at six seven. However many quarterbacks in the first round.
Add a few guys that'll be taking as projects in
the second. Like you said, dollar cost averaging at your
quarterback position from overthcap dot com, the estimation is that
the Rams are gonna have like sixty million dollars in
cap space. And that's without doing a damn thing with

(39:59):
matthew st efforts. So the rebuild of this team is
certainly going to go in earnest here this offseason and
easy their injuries out, and we'll see physically if he
can stick around.

Speaker 1 (40:12):
What NFL team pushed the panic button the biggest on Tuesday,
We got it next right here, Fox
Advertise With Us

Hosts And Creators

Jason Smith

Jason Smith

Mike Harmon

Mike Harmon

Popular Podcasts

Dateline NBC

Dateline NBC

Current and classic episodes, featuring compelling true-crime mysteries, powerful documentaries and in-depth investigations. Follow now to get the latest episodes of Dateline NBC completely free, or subscribe to Dateline Premium for ad-free listening and exclusive bonus content: DatelinePremium.com

Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang

Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang

Ding dong! Join your culture consultants, Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang, on an unforgettable journey into the beating heart of CULTURE. Alongside sizzling special guests, they GET INTO the hottest pop-culture moments of the day and the formative cultural experiences that turned them into Culturistas. Produced by the Big Money Players Network and iHeartRadio.

Music, radio and podcasts, all free. Listen online or download the iHeart App.

Connect

© 2025 iHeartMedia, Inc.