July 11, 2024 • 36 mins
Mike Harmon and Jason Fitz debate if Shedeur Sanders expectations this season for the Buffaloes is realistic. The guy's recap Team USA’s showcase win over Canada. And an emotional Jets fan tells Aaron Rodgers he wants a Super Bowl win!
See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Mark as Played
Transcript
Episode Transcript
Available transcripts are automatically generated. Complete accuracy is not guaranteed.
Speaker 1 (00:00):
Thanks for listening to The Jason Smith Show with Mike
Harmon podcast. Be sure to catch us live every weeknight
ten pm to two am Eastern seven to eleven pm
Pacific on Fox Sports Radio. Find your local station for
The Jason Smith Show with Mike Harmon at Foxsports Radio
dot com, or stream us live every night on the
iHeartRadio app by searching FSR.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Please give us parties you're listening to Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
Welcome in our three of the program. Halftime is concluding. Hey,
our halftime was a little shorter than that for this
Canada US tilt going on late third quarter. Now, welcome in.
Jason fits in for Jason Smith tonight. I'm Mike Carmon.
We appreciate you giving us a few minutes of your
time on the highways and my ways of life. However,
(00:49):
you're listening to us all our four un A plus
affiliates nation wide. Welcome in Saint Louis so much.
Speaker 4 (00:57):
Going on the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
Man, We're ubiquitous right at the Serious XM Channel eighty three.
Wherever you tune in, We do appreciate you being part
of the extended family as we broadcast live from the
tirac dot com Studios. Tireract dot Com will help you
get there an unmatched selection, fast, free shipping, free road
hazard protection, over ten thousand recommended installers. Tireract dot com
(01:20):
the way tire buying should be. As I said, Jason
fits in for Jason Smith Tonight Smith traveling the globe
a little bit, getting his Wizarding World in at Jason
fitz is where you can find him if you want
to comment on what we're doing on the show. Give
me the good, the bad, the ugly at Swollen Dome.
(01:41):
I'll wear it. Jason's got some new music up pinned
to his site, you know, origin stories. We've kind of
broached it a little bit as we go through here,
me at Yahoo, you and the music industry, and bridging
back as we do here to meet on this beautiful
Wednesday night to watch Canada and the United States match
(02:02):
up in Las Vegas.
Speaker 5 (02:06):
Do we feel good about the fact that we're watching
Canada in the United.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
States and sports?
Speaker 4 (02:11):
What's the betting line?
Speaker 5 (02:13):
I mean, you're right, there's money on the line, But
I just keep thinking, Look, both of these teams have
been sloppy, but I keep thinking about Vinnie Goodwill who
just said, everybody thinks it's a guarantee that this team
is going to win the gold.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
It's the best team ever, is what some of these
sick of fans have been telling me.
Speaker 6 (02:30):
He was not as confident.
Speaker 5 (02:32):
He said, look, I think they probably will win the Gold,
but they will have some competition in this. And I
sort of laughed that conversation off. I thought, nah, vinn,
he's just bracing here. But when you watch this, this
is just not It's not smooth, it's not clean, it's
not what we expect. I know it's only an exhibition.
I know it's a Vegas guys just having a good time,
but man, the global talent is better. France has got
(02:55):
some huge human beings on there. I just don't I'm
looking at this saying I could see this team slipping up.
So it doesn't feel like the dream team the way
that we expected early. Still, but still we expected.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
More five games to round out any rough edges. Get
that continuity, consistency and teamwork flowing on the spread was
anywhere between twelve and a half or fourteen and a half,
depending on where you were shopping earlier today, Because I mean,
we got to get.
Speaker 4 (03:23):
The betting line in.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
I mean, we got to be honest with with what
the other part of the equation is here, Jason is
you know people that are going to tune into this
in the middle of the summer, Yeah, they might have
their favorite player. Maybe you want to watch a little
Jason Tatum, Anthony Davis and Lebron James out there, see
if Steph Curry can hit a jumper or two. I
want to give him a nod owing to our earlier conversation, autograph, selfies, whatever.
(03:48):
Yesterday at the team facilities, everybody was running out the
door and heading out one hundred and fourteen degrees in Vegas.
Steph Curry walked over with a sharpie and they might
not have been the cleanest signature, but he tried to
help out anybody that was maybe foolhardy or brave enough
to stand out in that weather.
Speaker 5 (04:06):
That's really amazing, and you know it speaks to the
celebrity and the way some people handle it. You know,
Steph has always just sort of known the right thing
to do at the right time. There's no doubt about it.
Do you feel like there's a little less I don't
want to say hype, but I mean you mentioned earlier
the sick of fans say this is the best team ever.
But I don't feel like we're clamoring for this, Like
(04:26):
I feel like there's something missing right now in general
for the Olympics. I don't know if it's the way
the stories are told or not told. I don't know
if it's that people just are gonna wait until we
actually hit pairs to get into it. But all of
this feels like a very slow lead into something that
does not have the usual hype that I expect.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
Yeah, Joel Embiid falling out in the third quarter, he
decided he just wanted to watch the rest of this
one alongside the rest of us. But I think, to
your to that point, Jason, part of it is, you know,
when we talk about All Star games in general, we
don't have that same blind spot that we did all
those years ago because we didn't see guys right we
(05:05):
did regardless of whether you had a cable package or not.
Speaker 4 (05:09):
There just wasn't this fluidity and openness.
Speaker 3 (05:12):
So we're gonna talk about the NBA rights deal right,
seventy six billion dollars even though the ratings are what
they are. But it's the last bastion of must watch
stuff right live sporting events so you can get advertising rates,
et cetera. The curiosity on the other side is Cuban
selling his interest, Jordan's selling his interest in now the Celtics,
and changes of ownership a little bit there, as well
(05:34):
as shares be come up for sale. But I think
part of it is we see these guys play a lot,
and then we watched as they moved between teams a lot,
So seeing them team up is it doesn't I don't
think it has the same juice that it did once
upon a time. You know, these guys that don't like
(05:56):
each other, how are they going to team up? Well,
if you're the biggest guy in the room watched it
from Jordan going back to ninety two, you can stir
the drink anyway you want it and keep guys on
or off the squad. But I don't think we're clamoring
the same way. Because the season just ended. Two doesn't
seem like the NBA ever really stops.
Speaker 5 (06:14):
Your point about seeing them all the time really hits me.
And I'm gonna make another eighties wrestling analogy. When we
were kids watching wrestling in the eighties, eighties, One of
the coolest things was that hul Hogan, for example, Macho Man,
guys like that, they rarely actually wrestled. So like WWE
was or WWF when we were kids, was on every Saturday.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
Right Saturday mornings, Baby, Let's go. And then I got
World Class Championship Wrestling at five on Saturday.
Speaker 5 (06:41):
Like, we watched that, but you rarely what you saw
were interviews. You saw trash talking, but you rarely saw
Hulk or Macho Man until you got to like Saturday
Night main event, which was, you know, a much different thing,
or the rare pay per views.
Speaker 6 (06:54):
There were only a few of them when I.
Speaker 5 (06:55):
Was a kid, so those moments were so electric because
you really only saw, you know, a Hulk versus Andre
and the Giant was only going to happen once a year,
and the whole year was going to be lead up
to it. Now there's so many every month there's a
pay per view, and you see these guys all the time,
challenging each other and blah blah blah blah blah. So
it does feel to me like it's a little less
(07:16):
special to the point that you're making and I'd never
thought about it till you mentioned it, But you're right, like,
you know, fifteen years ago, an All Star game meant
more because you would never see these guys playing together.
Now you see guys playing on different teams all the
time that they go from place to place, and you
can watch absolutely every game, every time, everywhere. So it
(07:37):
maybe it's impossible to cut through for some of these moments,
even if they're Olympic based, because right now people aren't
thinking about a gold medal. They'll worry about the gold
medal when we actually get to Paris. Right now, this
is just another scrimmage with a bunch of big names
playing on the same team.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
Yeah, you know, you're trying to find where you can
squeeze more juice out of it, and certainly this will
rate well for FS one, right, And it's all relative
because what I hate happens both in the comparisons we do.
Speaker 4 (08:04):
On the field. It's always let's compare guys.
Speaker 3 (08:08):
We used to do it. Everything was safe for the NFL.
It was compared to Brady. Now it's compared to Mahomes Like, well,
they're not those guys, right, so let's let's figure out
where they fit in the you know, the gradient of
guys who are similar versus the outliers, whether it be
contract or aptitude. Same thing in the NBA for years
(08:28):
it was you know, here's Lebron or Steph or the
two benchmarks, and we're comparing everybody next to them. It's
like it's it's it's unfair to everybody involved, and it's
a disingenuous conversation oftentimes that way. So we do the
same things with ratings, like, well, the an average NFL
game does this, like all right, just oh to the
fact that the the NFL is its own monster over
(08:52):
here that we are always going to consume no matter
when they play it. Remember they played that game on
a Wednesday during COVID. It had better ratings than anything
the NBA's done for two decades.
Speaker 4 (09:04):
Well and that stuck at home.
Speaker 5 (09:05):
But yeah, no, but I think about that all the
time when we talk about college basketball ratings, like college
basketball doesn't need to outperform all of these other bigger sports.
The only thing that you have to ask, if you're
Fox and you're looking at again is what else will
we be putting on right now on this Tuesday night?
Speaker 6 (09:23):
And what would it garner from radio opportunity.
Speaker 4 (09:25):
To cost straight economics Yeah.
Speaker 5 (09:28):
There is such a level of Instead of comparing it
to random other sports, just ask yourself, Okay, what do
you think they're gonna play right now? The Cornhole Championships,
Like there's a very real Hey, this did really well
for a Tuesday or Wednesday night simply because it's a
sport and people will watch it.
Speaker 6 (09:44):
And that's sort of where this is right now. You
know you're right.
Speaker 5 (09:47):
People, I'm sure are watching this because it's basketball, and
that's better for a lot of people than watching nothing at.
Speaker 3 (09:53):
All, right, versus the rerun of whatever show they have.
There's plenty of binge watching to be done out there.
We talked about the pop culture blind spots. I'm looking
for a new show. I just finished the night the
season of the Bear, so I'm looking for something next.
You want, guys want to give me some ideas at Swollendome,
I'll certainly take them, no question about it. Eleven year agreement,
(10:14):
seventy six billion dollars. And then you start talking about
how this gets parsed out. That's the NBA's new media
rights deal. And we've got a bunch of heavy hitters.
When you talk about NBC getting back in the mix,
games that'll be on peacock, Amazon getting a seat at
the table, and now you've got the right of refusal
(10:34):
for TNT Sports, but they've got five days to match
it and decide if the money works and what kind
of distribution they would have as well.
Speaker 4 (10:43):
Jason A.
Speaker 3 (10:44):
The number is staggering to me, again owing to the
fact of where we're at in terms of ratings processing,
and you try to parse it out right again, not
comparison comparing it to the NBA, all right, I should
say the NFL, but just when we're talking about a
seventy six billion dollar deal. Look, exclusivity has its price,
(11:06):
but that's a tripling of rights and trying to figure out,
all right, what's the global plan. I'd like to see
that part of the binder in terms of where the
money flows in from overseas to help get us to
that dollar point, because in the US it leaves me
a little bit vexed, right when we talk about the
(11:28):
domestic side of it. You know how big that piece
of the pie is.
Speaker 5 (11:33):
Yeah, I think that's the the hard part is that
these rights, you know, because as you've referenced, and I
think people might not realize sometimes there are very few
things that you have to watch right now. So in
a binge society. Part of the reason that sports do
so well when it comes to sales of rights is
because advertisers will pay more to be part of a
(11:54):
sporting event because it's the one thing you can't just
flip through, right, Like you've got to sit there during
the commercials.
Speaker 6 (12:00):
You can't really do much else.
Speaker 5 (12:01):
They've got the captive audience, So that's really hard to find.
The question becomes, at what point is it a the
rate of returns just doesn't make any sense, right, And
I think you're sort of at that with a lot
of this Now there's a lot of inventory of basketball games,
so maybe that's part. You know, you think you're just
going to make it up a little piece by a
little piece.
Speaker 6 (12:19):
But if you're.
Speaker 5 (12:20):
TNT, you know you're looking at having a matches, you
really got to ask yourself is it worth leveraging that
kind of money to have the NBA? And I know
we all love inside the NBA, but how many people
actually watch that every day? Like if you start thinking
about the number of viewers to it, and then the
amount of advertising dollars, T and T is still a
business they got to make sure it makes sense to
(12:41):
spend that kind of money on the NBA. And they
don't want to sit there and lose money just so
they can have the cachet of having professional sports.
Speaker 3 (12:47):
Right, Well, the loss leader, you know the Costco chicken, right,
you revers going to Costco before. So you know, people
go in and they get their roast chicken. Right, that's
radiating under the heat lamp. And then they in and
by by time you get out, you've spent three hundred
dollars or more. So you got ESPN and ABC keep
(13:07):
the top rights package, and then we start looking at
parsing out the calendar. Right, they get the finals and
everything else. And as our executive producer, Justin Frosberg reminds me,
you know after the Super Bowl ends, they would end
up going into a seven day a week national game.
Speaker 4 (13:25):
Kind of prospecting. So I'm wondering.
Speaker 3 (13:28):
Part of it is the all right, you get on board,
you're gonna buy advertising, but it also becomes a all right,
what else comes in in the programming that you have
to advertise on besides you know the live sporting events
that is the NBA. You know what else? The inside
the NBA? I had the most unpopular take. The only
(13:48):
time we talk about it is when something really goes viral.
Am I sitting down to watch that?
Speaker 4 (13:53):
No?
Speaker 3 (13:55):
Now I'm on air, you know when games are live
and they go into the post. But would I seek
that out generally? And I love sports as much as anybody. No,
because I know it's like fallon or anything else. If
there's a good clip and a good quip that comes
out of it, I'm gonna get the fifteen second video
moments after it airs.
Speaker 5 (14:17):
I saw the number of people I know that after
one of the I think it was the Ryan Gosling
this year Saturday Night Live, They're like, that's one of
the best episodes SNL has had in years, And I.
Speaker 6 (14:26):
Was like, oh, do you watch it? No?
Speaker 5 (14:27):
I just saw all the clips that they put up
on TikTok and Instagram and it's like, okay, well, you'd
actually have to watch a whole episode to decide if
it's one of the best years guys, not just the
two or three.
Speaker 3 (14:38):
I got more clips from that in my timeline fits.
That's how we see. I think it was more the
lamentation in our business because of the number of people
that all they do is try to find content from
someone else instead of being an original thought of reading
an article on actually replying, Let's wait for them to
say something and then we go hot take rey on it.
(14:58):
So they're scared to lose Charles Barkley Company because of that,
And that's the Bode answer.
Speaker 6 (15:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (15:04):
There you go right at Jason Fitz where you find
about trying to find me over at Swollendum. Coming up next,
Big twelve, we talked about the commissioner.
Speaker 4 (15:11):
We talk about big game hunting.
Speaker 3 (15:14):
And you've got a school in an athlete in particular
who feels like they are now the hunted.
Speaker 4 (15:19):
We'll talk about that coming up next.
Speaker 3 (15:22):
Hey, are you tired of endlessly searching for work, applying
for jobs, never hearing back, job openings that vanish into
thin air? What if with one connection you can link
with dozens of companies that are hiring. What if that
connection was a locally owned business ready to help without
charging a fee. Well, Express Employment Professionals is that one connection.
Go to expresspros dot com with endless opportunities. It's time
(15:45):
to try something new in your job search. Let Express
Employment Professionals help you and you can get started at Express.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
pm Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 4 (16:03):
Paully Foods Gohea with Tony Foodsco.
Speaker 6 (16:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (16:05):
As everybody knows, we're the hosts of the award winning
Polly and Tony Foodsco Show. Yeah, but instead of us
telling you how great we are, here's how Dan Patrick
described us when he came on our show.
Speaker 5 (16:15):
Quick, knowledgeable and funny, opinionated.
Speaker 4 (16:19):
What are you doing interrupting our promo?
Speaker 2 (16:21):
Yeah, you wasn't talking about you. You took those clips
totally of context.
Speaker 7 (16:26):
Oh yeah, well after this promo, I'm gonna take you
out and beat you.
Speaker 4 (16:30):
Let me put this into context.
Speaker 6 (16:32):
Shut up.
Speaker 7 (16:32):
Yeah, anyway, just listen to the Paully and Tony Foodsco
Show on iHeartRadio, Apple Podcasts oherever you get your podcasts.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
Yee.
Speaker 3 (16:41):
Welcome back ahead Fox Sports Radio. It's getting down the
winning time. Well, the US were a thirteen point lead,
but remember spread could have been fourteen and a half
depending on where.
Speaker 4 (16:51):
You were shopping earlier.
Speaker 3 (16:53):
Yeah, I'm a degenerate Mike Carbon alongside Jason Fitz no
Jason Smith this week. He'll be back on Monday. As
we traverse the Major League Baseball All Star Week what
people sometimes called the dead time, I say, well, we
start flipping the script and we talk more football, football, football,
which we'll do a little bit next hour. In addition
to it, welcoming in Mark Medina for a few minutes
(17:15):
talking about this US a Canada tilt and other things
going on in the National Basketball Association. But media days
always give us a little bit of fun, Jason, and
with the Big twelve, well where do you turn? But
Dion Sanders and his son Shador Sanders making the rounds
doing some interviews and gave us some absolute gold with
(17:38):
the expectations for this year. Remember it started September was
the month of Colorado. The Buffaloes were running wild like
Hulkamania in the mid eighties, leaving no wrestling reference a
stone unturned as we go forward. But Shadoor Sanders also said, yeah, yeah,
we understand what we are in.
Speaker 8 (17:58):
Terms of film operating with a certain op legation thing.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
Does that total flow over to you.
Speaker 8 (18:02):
As his son and being in the spotlight as you
just answered that, there's a different level in how you
feel you have to perform. Do you have an obligation
to perform at a different level.
Speaker 9 (18:11):
It's been there since day one. I remember first media
day when I was in HBCU, I said, well, if
you want to lose a game, I try. I'm undefeated
in a swag, so I already know what the expectation
comes with. I know where everybody's super Bowl. So I'm
really just I always stay level ahead, to stay grounded,
because I just I would never want to be that
(18:34):
guy look back and not being able to take an
advantage of the moment that we.
Speaker 6 (18:38):
Have right now.
Speaker 3 (18:40):
There you go, you talking about everybody's Super Bowl and joy.
It goes back to something we were talking about before,
right when you're in a spotlight kind of situation and
trying to find those eyeballs, trying to find you know,
when we meet it out with nil deals and everything else,
it's like for opponents, yeah, it's a big game because
they know there's a lot of folks the love hate.
(19:01):
We talked about it earlier, you know, with all the
w NBA talk over the last month. Jason of When
the Fever, when the sky Play Heroes and Villains, Missoula
gave us the great quote the Celtics coach saying, yeah,
you're a villain in somebody's eyes. But if you're the villain,
that means they're watching right. You want to be loved
or hated. You don't want people to be indifferent. And
(19:24):
for Colorado football, whether people jumped on board and jumped
on the bandwagon there of what Dion Sanders and his
sons and Travis Hunter are doing, or they're just rooting
for Dion de fail for whatever reason, that gets on
board there and you can draw myriad lines as you
(19:44):
want to go. But we also know that the opponents
from North Dakota State, who they open with all the
way down, Yeah, that's a chance to get some extra
tape and maybe some eyeballs towards next level, or maybe
a local car dealership gets on board after a big play.
Speaker 5 (20:02):
I think the interesting part about all of that is, yes,
they are everybody super Bowl, But then we got to
ask ourselves a question, whose fault is that? And I
do mean the word fault, like if people are coming
in with extra eyeballs on Shdore or extra eyeballs on Colorado,
that's because Dion has created the circus, Like there are
(20:23):
tons of young players that don't come in with that
level of we're gonna take down.
Speaker 6 (20:28):
Like nobody came in.
Speaker 5 (20:29):
With a negative connotation around Marvin Harrison Junior. When he
got to Ohio State. It was quite the opposite. It was,
Oh my god, let's see what this kid can do.
This is awesome. His dad was alleged, Like we see
that all the time. And when you talk about coaches
that are wildly famous to their area, I mean Penny
Hardaway at Memphis. Nobody's gunning for Penny.
Speaker 6 (20:47):
Now.
Speaker 5 (20:48):
I know they haven't had the success that they want,
but part of that is because Penny doesn't really give
the clips like Juwan Howard didn't give the clips for that.
Speaker 4 (20:55):
There are we to fight people on the sidelines, But you.
Speaker 5 (21:00):
Know what I'm saying, Like, there's just this element of
Shador is under an intense amount of pressure and always
has been, in part because his dad never stops running
his mouth, and like, so I want to have sympathy
for the fact that, man, that's got to be really
difficult for a kid that just wants to play college football,
but also talk to your dad like your pop's is
creating this situation. So it's interesting because we feel it
(21:24):
in the college football community is something I've been lucky
enough to cover for a long time. And you know,
Yahoo last fall, one of the things I was doing
was reaction videos to the biggest moments on Saturday. Well
after one week, we saw that the numbers flew through
the roof. If we just all we had to do
was say Colorado's name and the numbers flew through the roof.
Speaker 6 (21:41):
That's real. So all of a sudden, the attention being paid.
I mean, Dion got what he wanted.
Speaker 5 (21:46):
He got he got more platform for his team and
for himself and for his kid. But with that comes
this extra ancillary you know, the damage that's done. It's
collateral damage to the entire process. And that's his dad's fault.
Speaker 4 (22:00):
Oh, we wrap our arms around it.
Speaker 3 (22:01):
Right. We're watching Team USA tonight and they just went
to commercial on FS one with the shot of lebron James,
you know, wiping the sweat away from his face and
all the attention that he commands. And Bronnie James right,
it's been part of Fenley's updates.
Speaker 4 (22:18):
Should it be.
Speaker 3 (22:19):
I don't know, he didn't do anything, but he's Bronnie
James right, And it's those kind of things where if
it moves the needle and it gets people excited right
grumbling as they were. I did my big take on
the word nepotism as it relates to the larger world,
because people got, you know, their panties in a bunch
over Bronnie James getting drafted fifty fifth. Yet they think
(22:43):
nothing of calling and asking for favors to get the
friend of a friend, the kid whomever a job along
the way, just saying, you know, let's look in the
mirror now and again when we have our hot take theater.
You can find that in the podcast area wherever it is.
If you want to hate me for it, you can
send me the notes. That's rolling dome too.
Speaker 5 (23:03):
And if you're in the yeah, do you think there's
a single dad that wouldn't do that for their kid?
Speaker 3 (23:09):
If that's the point, that's the point I'm making, right,
And this is obviously on a grand scale because it's
the sanctity of the Lakers. But how many people's like, yeah,
my kid thinks they might kind of want a sort
of do this job. Can you let them be an
intern for a semester?
Speaker 4 (23:26):
Okay?
Speaker 5 (23:28):
And look, I I one of my closest friends in
the world is Michael Junior. Obviously, you know his dad
was part of Mike and Mike, and you know when
Mike got into radio, everybody that's just the number one
thing people throw out on social media and nepotism, nepotism, nepotism.
Speaker 6 (23:42):
Well, I mean that sure, that helped him get him
the job.
Speaker 5 (23:46):
I don't think anybody would ever deny that. But then
you still got to put in the work to keep
the job. Yeah, and he worked tirelessly to have the
opportunities he had, and no matter what, people would still
look at it and say, well, your dad, your dad,
your dad. I just think that's such oversimplification.
Speaker 6 (24:00):
And you're right.
Speaker 5 (24:01):
I don't think there are many parents right now listening
that if they could, whether they.
Speaker 6 (24:06):
Work at a law firm or a car factory or.
Speaker 5 (24:08):
A basking rock, whatever you do, kid needs a job.
You're like, hey, my kid needs a job. Do we
need any help for him? Like, that's just that's human.
When did we decide that athletes are not allowed to
be human beings. It's one of the most asinine things
about the way we talk about athletes is that we
put this weird sort of expectation on how they should
act and what they should prioritize, and we forget that
(24:29):
at the end of the day, they're.
Speaker 3 (24:30):
Just people, right, And if Jennie Boss wants to run
or franchise and run out the clock with lebron James
and whatever, this next iteration is for a couple of years,
so be it all right her business. You can go
be a fan of another team for a couple of
years if you want to get off that bandwagon. Remember
they did bring a title a couple of years ago.
I know that gets categorically dismissed by some in the
(24:52):
larger media, usually news, as Frostburg would say, those six
Clipper fans that are running around are the ones that
do that. But it's just the point of for both
Shador Sanders and for Bronnie James. You you run with
it as you will. For Bronnie James, every interview I've seen,
every interaction still pretty uh, pretty grounded. It seems pretty humble,
(25:15):
uh in the process very well. You could say he's
well well coached, but he's not giving you a bunch
of bulletin board material. Shador Sanders takes after his dad
to a degree, right by talking about you know, the
super Bowl, every game, et cetera. You know, yeah, hype
it up. He's he's you know, done some some events
where he's got the flashy automobiles or whatever else.
Speaker 4 (25:37):
I don't begrudge him that, right. It's part of part.
Speaker 3 (25:39):
Of the upbringing, part of the nil world, part of
what you earned. Right and then, and that's where we
get into the discussion, and nepotism usually comes down in
our business or in Hollywood. You know, people have had
to answer those questions. To your point, Mike Golig Junior,
at some point, you've got to do the job.
Speaker 4 (25:56):
I like his food food content.
Speaker 3 (25:58):
When it's you know, trying ram them crap from convenience
stores or whatever, that's when it takes up sports hot
take nonsense. I dish out enough of that myself. I
don't seek that out. But you want to give me
a food recommendation or go down to gluttony lines. Look, man,
I'm a Chicago kid, Southsider. When we talked Chicago pizza places,
(26:19):
hot dog places, and I mentioned the bear before. Get
me a good Italian beef sandwich and all that goes
with it. Yeah, I'm a glutton for that. Kind of content.
I'm all over it. But yeah, you got it. You
can get in the door by any means, any means,
and that's any business, the and suns of the world.
Speaker 4 (26:37):
You gotta go and then earn it to keep it.
Speaker 5 (26:40):
Also, like I think this meritocracy concept where only the
best ever get opportunity is rare in any personal life.
Speaker 6 (26:49):
You know.
Speaker 5 (26:49):
One of my responsibilities when I was touring with the
band Perry was like I was the band leader, you know,
as the musical director of that project, which meant if
one of the guys decided they were going to quit,
it was my to make sure that we still had
a guitar player the next.
Speaker 6 (27:02):
Day, you know.
Speaker 5 (27:02):
And the funny thing is, I've told people this a
million times, but when that happened. There are two times
that with the band a guitar player at you know,
at the luggage place, you know, waiting to get your
luggage after they're playing. Two different times where a guitar
player walked up and said, I can't do this. Like
our busiest year, we were gone three hundred days, we
played two hundred and twenty shows. Like I understand why
it wore some some people out, but the funny thing
(27:23):
is when I'm putting together an audition, the number of
times that we would sit there and audition guys and
it's like, yeah, he's definitively a better basketball or basketball
I have that on.
Speaker 6 (27:31):
He's a better guitar player.
Speaker 5 (27:33):
But I would look over here and say, this guy
is ten percent less of a musician, but one hundred
percent better hang and when you're living on a tour.
Speaker 6 (27:43):
Bus, that matters.
Speaker 5 (27:43):
So to me, I waited those things, and I was
willing to take a lesser player if that meant that
we could get the right fit personality wise. Like, I
think we have to acknowledge that most of society is
like that, right, Like it's not any one thing. It's
a bunch of different individual factors that come into how
people get jobs in every situation. Why is it supposed
to be different, Like just because you we have this
(28:05):
concept of well, I need to have the best at
every position across the board, it's actually the best fit,
and the best fit requires a lot more nuanced in
this conversation than just who's the most talented or who's
the hardest working. It's all of those things together that
provide that we have no idea fifty fifth overall pick.
Somebody wasn't being denied their great opportunity in the NBA
(28:26):
at fifty five overall because Bronni's being taken. So everybody
just needs to.
Speaker 6 (28:30):
Relax with that.
Speaker 3 (28:31):
And that's and that's the bottom line right there, right
fifty fifth. And yes, we can pick through a couple
of dozen guys that went on to greatness, but many
others who never saw the light of day. You're not
guaranteed much of anything. Now they guaranteed the money. Why
because they're going to make money. And we've had this conversation.
But you know, Shudor Sanders back to the you know,
big twelve media days and making the rounds. Yeah, eyeballs
(28:54):
are on you. There's expectations that you could be a
top five pick in this coming year's draft. Hell, your
dad said you and Hunter should go one and two. Right,
he's already put that out there, talking about four or
five guys going in the first round. Yeah, the bulls
eyes there and we know that machine. You know, as
soon as the draft on twenty twenty four came to
(29:15):
a close, Caleb Williams and everything else was done. Guess
what they were already doing the write ups and the
mockx for twenty twenty five. Hell, those were probably done
before the draft of twenty four ever took place in
a lot of spots, and then it was just a
matter of hitsend and published. So yeah, the cycle never ends,
and now they just have to go and earn it.
And that first matchup against North Dakota State won't be
(29:38):
any joke. That's a program, that is a machine that
they're running into. There, he's Jason Fitz in for Jason Smith,
not by Carmen coming up next. One fan said, he
sounded like Jason Smith. I need a Super Bowl Find
me over at Swolling Dome. Jason over at Jason fitz
coming up next. Yeah, the it kind of looked like
(29:59):
the commercial with the screaming and the high pitched and
it's all going towards the same energy, towards the same player.
Speaker 2 (30:05):
Well, be sure to catch live editions of The Jason
Smith Show with Mike harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern,
seven pm Pacific. Do they bring it back for Shrek five?
Speaker 6 (30:15):
Yes? Or no?
Speaker 3 (30:16):
Yeah, more Ricky Martin, Shrek Five's coming and you'll be
ready for it. Mike Carmen alongside Jason fitz here Fox
Sports Radio Jason Smith Show with me Mike Carmon having
a blast. We're watching replay now on FS one. They've
gone back to the Netherlands in England fantastic match from
earlier this afternoon. Because I'm a nerd, I'm gonna watch
it again, That's what I'm gonna do, and I may
(30:39):
comment on it live excitations as it were. Jason, It's
this big weekend, the American Century Championship comes out and
every year we laugh at what are gonna be the
odds for the worst player in the field, that is
Charles Barkley. Would you believe he is seventy five hundred
(31:01):
to one to win the American Century Championship. I think
you might as well light your dollar on fire in
that regard or donated to a good charity of your choice.
But there was a video clip that's making the rounds.
I hope the person's well. But in the spirit of
my normal partner here Jason Smith and his fandom with
(31:23):
the Jets, I have confirmed that unless Smith let's face,
it shed a couple of pounds and it was wearing
a wig. It's not him, but this was the outburst
as he saw his hero in tears at the sight
(31:47):
of Roger saying I need a Super Bowl. He is
Super Bowl and Rodgers goes, yeah, we're gonna win a
Super Bowl. I mean he lied to the guy, So,
I mean, I don't know about that. But the it's
that time of year funny, well, like we're cranking it up.
I've already done several fantasy drafts, but the emotions running
(32:08):
through on a same day where I'm getting a lot
of the Aaron Rodgers running out with the American Flag
memes because of other injuries and certainly related to the
Kawhi Leonard withdrawal from Team USA. I also sent you, guys,
perhaps the best exchange that you can do with the
Kawhi Leonard if you really want to be a funny,
(32:29):
smart ass to your friends and family, which was the hey,
what time are you coming? And then it's a picture
of Kawhi Leonard and you say, what the hell does
that mean? And then you wait and you say, oh,
it means I'm not showing up. She got that going
for you too. But the expectations for the New York
Jets absolutely through the roof saw the coach of the
(32:51):
year odds, Robert slid at eleven to one.
Speaker 4 (32:54):
What are we doing?
Speaker 5 (32:55):
Look, let me be clear here, I'm not buying any
of this, Like, there's nothing about the Jets that I'm
buying this year. And to be honest, I know everybody
wants to sit here and put Aaron Rodgers on a
pedestal right now.
Speaker 6 (33:08):
He's old and he's coming off an Achilles injury.
Speaker 5 (33:11):
Like, I don't know why we have to be so
walking on eggshells when we talk about Aaron Rodgers and
the Jets. Right now, I realized that you could say, well,
all they needed was a competent quarterback last year.
Speaker 6 (33:22):
What assurances do they have?
Speaker 5 (33:24):
Like, Okay, they went out, they shored up the offensive
line with you know, a bunch of mid thirties guys. Yeah,
Like they didn't get the youngest guys, they don't have
the most reliable guys health wise, and you still got
Aaron Rodgers. Like, look, I'd say the same thing about
Kirk Cousins. I don't like a quarterback that's three hundred
and seventy six years old that's coming off an Achilles
injury Like that just seems to me like we're glossing
(33:46):
over that it's in part because last year we got tricked.
Speaker 6 (33:49):
Into so many stupid conversations about well, he's going to
come back in the same season, which.
Speaker 5 (33:54):
If any of us pulled our heads out of our
rear ends, we knew that wasn't going to happen, but
everybody wanted to believe. So now we're just presuming it
all comes together and everything's coming up Roses. And my
issue with Robert Sala is the next time that the
Jets as an organization handle chaos well will be the
first time that I can remember the Jets as an
organization handling chaos well. So when all of this turns
(34:16):
into a dumpster fire inevitably, which just always happens, we
really think that Robert sala is going to be the
calm hand that can right the ship. I don't I
feel like right now we are. We're just presuming the
Bills take this massive step back for yet again, like
we did the same thing before last season. I yelled
up about it last year. Also, the Bills are not
going to take a step back. They haven't taken a
(34:38):
step back. The Dolphins are still gonna beat the bad
football teams like they always doing. Their score a bunch
of points and it's gonna be enter Like the Jets
are the third place team in their.
Speaker 3 (34:46):
Division, Dolphins are the I think it was the third
or fourth highest or best odds for the highest scoring rankings.
You know, at a DraftKings book behind a couple of
the teams in the NFC when we look at what
the Lions and forty nine ers might be, but when
(35:06):
we look at the Jets, Yeah, I think it's a
lot of wishing and hoping right that chaos doesn't find them.
That's suddenly the football gods smile on Aaron Rodgers as
he turns forty years old, and that offensive line can
keep him up upright. Yeah, he gets the ball out fast,
but part of his game has always been the mobility
to extend the play by a little bit of extra
(35:28):
time and let his receivers get break containment to make
big plays. And that to say that he won't have
some success with that with Garrett Wilson, but certainly, you know,
getting you want to talk about nepotism, getting all those
old Packers guys big contracts. I mean, that was some
of the greatest works ever done. You want me to
be happy, Yeah, sign my guys. Oh wait, they only
(35:51):
work with me. They don't really work with any other
quarterback at this point in their careers, and I'm not
on the field, so yeah, I'm with you. The Bills
are to be interesting to watch because you've got different
component parts in the offense, and the Patriots are what
they are in.
Speaker 4 (36:07):
Full rebuild mode.
Speaker 3 (36:08):
Bill Belichick, though, was at the Taylor Swift concert hanging
out with new girlfriend and Travis Kelsey, so that was
kind of cool to see.
Speaker 5 (36:17):
I mean, his new girlfriend is of the age that
she would absolutely be in love with Taylor Swift, so
that makes a ton of sense.
Speaker 3 (36:23):
See there you go, see it all comes together. He's
Jason fitz in for Jason Smith. I'm Mike Harmon here
from the tyreq dot Com Fox Sports Radio Studios. Coming
up next, we get a visit from Mark Medina. What
are we supposed to get from this USA win over Canada?
Thanks for listening to The Jason Smith Show with Mike
Harmon podcast. Be sure to catch us live every weeknight
ten pm to two am Eastern seven to eleven pm
Pacific on Fox Sports Radio. Find your local station for
The Jason Smith Show with Mike Harmon at Foxsports Radio
dot com, or stream us live every night on the
iHeartRadio app by searching FSR.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Please give us parties you're listening to Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
Welcome in our three of the program. Halftime is concluding. Hey,
our halftime was a little shorter than that for this
Canada US tilt going on late third quarter. Now, welcome in.
Jason fits in for Jason Smith tonight. I'm Mike Carmon.
We appreciate you giving us a few minutes of your
time on the highways and my ways of life. However,
(00:49):
you're listening to us all our four un A plus
affiliates nation wide. Welcome in Saint Louis so much.
Speaker 4 (00:57):
Going on the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
Man, We're ubiquitous right at the Serious XM Channel eighty three.
Wherever you tune in, We do appreciate you being part
of the extended family as we broadcast live from the
tirac dot com Studios. Tireract dot Com will help you
get there an unmatched selection, fast, free shipping, free road
hazard protection, over ten thousand recommended installers. Tireract dot com
(01:20):
the way tire buying should be. As I said, Jason
fits in for Jason Smith Tonight Smith traveling the globe
a little bit, getting his Wizarding World in at Jason
fitz is where you can find him if you want
to comment on what we're doing on the show. Give
me the good, the bad, the ugly at Swollen Dome.
(01:41):
I'll wear it. Jason's got some new music up pinned
to his site, you know, origin stories. We've kind of
broached it a little bit as we go through here,
me at Yahoo, you and the music industry, and bridging
back as we do here to meet on this beautiful
Wednesday night to watch Canada and the United States match
(02:02):
up in Las Vegas.
Speaker 5 (02:06):
Do we feel good about the fact that we're watching
Canada in the United.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
States and sports?
Speaker 4 (02:11):
What's the betting line?
Speaker 5 (02:13):
I mean, you're right, there's money on the line, But
I just keep thinking, Look, both of these teams have
been sloppy, but I keep thinking about Vinnie Goodwill who
just said, everybody thinks it's a guarantee that this team
is going to win the gold.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
It's the best team ever, is what some of these
sick of fans have been telling me.
Speaker 6 (02:30):
He was not as confident.
Speaker 5 (02:32):
He said, look, I think they probably will win the Gold,
but they will have some competition in this. And I
sort of laughed that conversation off. I thought, nah, vinn,
he's just bracing here. But when you watch this, this
is just not It's not smooth, it's not clean, it's
not what we expect. I know it's only an exhibition.
I know it's a Vegas guys just having a good time,
but man, the global talent is better. France has got
(02:55):
some huge human beings on there. I just don't I'm
looking at this saying I could see this team slipping up.
So it doesn't feel like the dream team the way
that we expected early. Still, but still we expected.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
More five games to round out any rough edges. Get
that continuity, consistency and teamwork flowing on the spread was
anywhere between twelve and a half or fourteen and a half,
depending on where you were shopping earlier today, Because I mean,
we got to get.
Speaker 4 (03:23):
The betting line in.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
I mean, we got to be honest with with what
the other part of the equation is here, Jason is
you know people that are going to tune into this
in the middle of the summer, Yeah, they might have
their favorite player. Maybe you want to watch a little
Jason Tatum, Anthony Davis and Lebron James out there, see
if Steph Curry can hit a jumper or two. I
want to give him a nod owing to our earlier conversation, autograph, selfies, whatever.
(03:48):
Yesterday at the team facilities, everybody was running out the
door and heading out one hundred and fourteen degrees in Vegas.
Steph Curry walked over with a sharpie and they might
not have been the cleanest signature, but he tried to
help out anybody that was maybe foolhardy or brave enough
to stand out in that weather.
Speaker 5 (04:06):
That's really amazing, and you know it speaks to the
celebrity and the way some people handle it. You know,
Steph has always just sort of known the right thing
to do at the right time. There's no doubt about it.
Do you feel like there's a little less I don't
want to say hype, but I mean you mentioned earlier
the sick of fans say this is the best team ever.
But I don't feel like we're clamoring for this, Like
(04:26):
I feel like there's something missing right now in general
for the Olympics. I don't know if it's the way
the stories are told or not told. I don't know
if it's that people just are gonna wait until we
actually hit pairs to get into it. But all of
this feels like a very slow lead into something that
does not have the usual hype that I expect.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
Yeah, Joel Embiid falling out in the third quarter, he
decided he just wanted to watch the rest of this
one alongside the rest of us. But I think, to
your to that point, Jason, part of it is, you know,
when we talk about All Star games in general, we
don't have that same blind spot that we did all
those years ago because we didn't see guys right we
(05:05):
did regardless of whether you had a cable package or not.
Speaker 4 (05:09):
There just wasn't this fluidity and openness.
Speaker 3 (05:12):
So we're gonna talk about the NBA rights deal right,
seventy six billion dollars even though the ratings are what
they are. But it's the last bastion of must watch
stuff right live sporting events so you can get advertising rates,
et cetera. The curiosity on the other side is Cuban
selling his interest, Jordan's selling his interest in now the Celtics,
and changes of ownership a little bit there, as well
(05:34):
as shares be come up for sale. But I think
part of it is we see these guys play a lot,
and then we watched as they moved between teams a lot,
So seeing them team up is it doesn't I don't
think it has the same juice that it did once
upon a time. You know, these guys that don't like
(05:56):
each other, how are they going to team up? Well,
if you're the biggest guy in the room watched it
from Jordan going back to ninety two, you can stir
the drink anyway you want it and keep guys on
or off the squad. But I don't think we're clamoring
the same way. Because the season just ended. Two doesn't
seem like the NBA ever really stops.
Speaker 5 (06:14):
Your point about seeing them all the time really hits me.
And I'm gonna make another eighties wrestling analogy. When we
were kids watching wrestling in the eighties, eighties, One of
the coolest things was that hul Hogan, for example, Macho Man,
guys like that, they rarely actually wrestled. So like WWE
was or WWF when we were kids, was on every Saturday.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
Right Saturday mornings, Baby, Let's go. And then I got
World Class Championship Wrestling at five on Saturday.
Speaker 5 (06:41):
Like, we watched that, but you rarely what you saw
were interviews. You saw trash talking, but you rarely saw
Hulk or Macho Man until you got to like Saturday
Night main event, which was, you know, a much different thing,
or the rare pay per views.
Speaker 6 (06:54):
There were only a few of them when I.
Speaker 5 (06:55):
Was a kid, so those moments were so electric because
you really only saw, you know, a Hulk versus Andre
and the Giant was only going to happen once a year,
and the whole year was going to be lead up
to it. Now there's so many every month there's a
pay per view, and you see these guys all the time,
challenging each other and blah blah blah blah blah. So
it does feel to me like it's a little less
(07:16):
special to the point that you're making and I'd never
thought about it till you mentioned it, But you're right, like,
you know, fifteen years ago, an All Star game meant
more because you would never see these guys playing together.
Now you see guys playing on different teams all the
time that they go from place to place, and you
can watch absolutely every game, every time, everywhere. So it
(07:37):
maybe it's impossible to cut through for some of these moments,
even if they're Olympic based, because right now people aren't
thinking about a gold medal. They'll worry about the gold
medal when we actually get to Paris. Right now, this
is just another scrimmage with a bunch of big names
playing on the same team.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
Yeah, you know, you're trying to find where you can
squeeze more juice out of it, and certainly this will
rate well for FS one, right, And it's all relative
because what I hate happens both in the comparisons we do.
Speaker 4 (08:04):
On the field. It's always let's compare guys.
Speaker 3 (08:08):
We used to do it. Everything was safe for the NFL.
It was compared to Brady. Now it's compared to Mahomes Like, well,
they're not those guys, right, so let's let's figure out
where they fit in the you know, the gradient of
guys who are similar versus the outliers, whether it be
contract or aptitude. Same thing in the NBA for years
(08:28):
it was you know, here's Lebron or Steph or the
two benchmarks, and we're comparing everybody next to them. It's
like it's it's it's unfair to everybody involved, and it's
a disingenuous conversation oftentimes that way. So we do the
same things with ratings, like, well, the an average NFL
game does this, like all right, just oh to the
fact that the the NFL is its own monster over
(08:52):
here that we are always going to consume no matter
when they play it. Remember they played that game on
a Wednesday during COVID. It had better ratings than anything
the NBA's done for two decades.
Speaker 4 (09:04):
Well and that stuck at home.
Speaker 5 (09:05):
But yeah, no, but I think about that all the
time when we talk about college basketball ratings, like college
basketball doesn't need to outperform all of these other bigger sports.
The only thing that you have to ask, if you're
Fox and you're looking at again is what else will
we be putting on right now on this Tuesday night?
Speaker 6 (09:23):
And what would it garner from radio opportunity.
Speaker 4 (09:25):
To cost straight economics Yeah.
Speaker 5 (09:28):
There is such a level of Instead of comparing it
to random other sports, just ask yourself, Okay, what do
you think they're gonna play right now? The Cornhole Championships,
Like there's a very real Hey, this did really well
for a Tuesday or Wednesday night simply because it's a
sport and people will watch it.
Speaker 6 (09:44):
And that's sort of where this is right now. You
know you're right.
Speaker 5 (09:47):
People, I'm sure are watching this because it's basketball, and
that's better for a lot of people than watching nothing at.
Speaker 3 (09:53):
All, right, versus the rerun of whatever show they have.
There's plenty of binge watching to be done out there.
We talked about the pop culture blind spots. I'm looking
for a new show. I just finished the night the
season of the Bear, so I'm looking for something next.
You want, guys want to give me some ideas at Swollendome,
I'll certainly take them, no question about it. Eleven year agreement,
(10:14):
seventy six billion dollars. And then you start talking about
how this gets parsed out. That's the NBA's new media
rights deal. And we've got a bunch of heavy hitters.
When you talk about NBC getting back in the mix,
games that'll be on peacock, Amazon getting a seat at
the table, and now you've got the right of refusal
(10:34):
for TNT Sports, but they've got five days to match
it and decide if the money works and what kind
of distribution they would have as well.
Speaker 4 (10:43):
Jason A.
Speaker 3 (10:44):
The number is staggering to me, again owing to the
fact of where we're at in terms of ratings processing,
and you try to parse it out right again, not
comparison comparing it to the NBA, all right, I should
say the NFL, but just when we're talking about a
seventy six billion dollar deal. Look, exclusivity has its price,
(11:06):
but that's a tripling of rights and trying to figure out,
all right, what's the global plan. I'd like to see
that part of the binder in terms of where the
money flows in from overseas to help get us to
that dollar point, because in the US it leaves me
a little bit vexed, right when we talk about the
(11:28):
domestic side of it. You know how big that piece
of the pie is.
Speaker 5 (11:33):
Yeah, I think that's the the hard part is that
these rights, you know, because as you've referenced, and I
think people might not realize sometimes there are very few
things that you have to watch right now. So in
a binge society. Part of the reason that sports do
so well when it comes to sales of rights is
because advertisers will pay more to be part of a
(11:54):
sporting event because it's the one thing you can't just
flip through, right, Like you've got to sit there during
the commercials.
Speaker 6 (12:00):
You can't really do much else.
Speaker 5 (12:01):
They've got the captive audience, So that's really hard to find.
The question becomes, at what point is it a the
rate of returns just doesn't make any sense, right, And
I think you're sort of at that with a lot
of this Now there's a lot of inventory of basketball games,
so maybe that's part. You know, you think you're just
going to make it up a little piece by a
little piece.
Speaker 6 (12:19):
But if you're.
Speaker 5 (12:20):
TNT, you know you're looking at having a matches, you
really got to ask yourself is it worth leveraging that
kind of money to have the NBA? And I know
we all love inside the NBA, but how many people
actually watch that every day? Like if you start thinking
about the number of viewers to it, and then the
amount of advertising dollars, T and T is still a
business they got to make sure it makes sense to
(12:41):
spend that kind of money on the NBA. And they
don't want to sit there and lose money just so
they can have the cachet of having professional sports.
Speaker 3 (12:47):
Right, Well, the loss leader, you know the Costco chicken, right,
you revers going to Costco before. So you know, people
go in and they get their roast chicken. Right, that's
radiating under the heat lamp. And then they in and
by by time you get out, you've spent three hundred
dollars or more. So you got ESPN and ABC keep
(13:07):
the top rights package, and then we start looking at
parsing out the calendar. Right, they get the finals and
everything else. And as our executive producer, Justin Frosberg reminds me,
you know after the Super Bowl ends, they would end
up going into a seven day a week national game.
Speaker 4 (13:25):
Kind of prospecting. So I'm wondering.
Speaker 3 (13:28):
Part of it is the all right, you get on board,
you're gonna buy advertising, but it also becomes a all right,
what else comes in in the programming that you have
to advertise on besides you know the live sporting events
that is the NBA. You know what else? The inside
the NBA? I had the most unpopular take. The only
(13:48):
time we talk about it is when something really goes viral.
Am I sitting down to watch that?
Speaker 4 (13:53):
No?
Speaker 3 (13:55):
Now I'm on air, you know when games are live
and they go into the post. But would I seek
that out generally? And I love sports as much as anybody. No,
because I know it's like fallon or anything else. If
there's a good clip and a good quip that comes
out of it, I'm gonna get the fifteen second video
moments after it airs.
Speaker 5 (14:17):
I saw the number of people I know that after
one of the I think it was the Ryan Gosling
this year Saturday Night Live, They're like, that's one of
the best episodes SNL has had in years, And I.
Speaker 6 (14:26):
Was like, oh, do you watch it? No?
Speaker 5 (14:27):
I just saw all the clips that they put up
on TikTok and Instagram and it's like, okay, well, you'd
actually have to watch a whole episode to decide if
it's one of the best years guys, not just the
two or three.
Speaker 3 (14:38):
I got more clips from that in my timeline fits.
That's how we see. I think it was more the
lamentation in our business because of the number of people
that all they do is try to find content from
someone else instead of being an original thought of reading
an article on actually replying, Let's wait for them to
say something and then we go hot take rey on it.
(14:58):
So they're scared to lose Charles Barkley Company because of that,
And that's the Bode answer.
Speaker 6 (15:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (15:04):
There you go right at Jason Fitz where you find
about trying to find me over at Swollendum. Coming up next,
Big twelve, we talked about the commissioner.
Speaker 4 (15:11):
We talk about big game hunting.
Speaker 3 (15:14):
And you've got a school in an athlete in particular
who feels like they are now the hunted.
Speaker 4 (15:19):
We'll talk about that coming up next.
Speaker 3 (15:22):
Hey, are you tired of endlessly searching for work, applying
for jobs, never hearing back, job openings that vanish into
thin air? What if with one connection you can link
with dozens of companies that are hiring. What if that
connection was a locally owned business ready to help without
charging a fee. Well, Express Employment Professionals is that one connection.
Go to expresspros dot com with endless opportunities. It's time
(15:45):
to try something new in your job search. Let Express
Employment Professionals help you and you can get started at Express.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
pm Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 4 (16:03):
Paully Foods Gohea with Tony Foodsco.
Speaker 6 (16:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (16:05):
As everybody knows, we're the hosts of the award winning
Polly and Tony Foodsco Show. Yeah, but instead of us
telling you how great we are, here's how Dan Patrick
described us when he came on our show.
Speaker 5 (16:15):
Quick, knowledgeable and funny, opinionated.
Speaker 4 (16:19):
What are you doing interrupting our promo?
Speaker 2 (16:21):
Yeah, you wasn't talking about you. You took those clips
totally of context.
Speaker 7 (16:26):
Oh yeah, well after this promo, I'm gonna take you
out and beat you.
Speaker 4 (16:30):
Let me put this into context.
Speaker 6 (16:32):
Shut up.
Speaker 7 (16:32):
Yeah, anyway, just listen to the Paully and Tony Foodsco
Show on iHeartRadio, Apple Podcasts oherever you get your podcasts.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
Yee.
Speaker 3 (16:41):
Welcome back ahead Fox Sports Radio. It's getting down the
winning time. Well, the US were a thirteen point lead,
but remember spread could have been fourteen and a half
depending on where.
Speaker 4 (16:51):
You were shopping earlier.
Speaker 3 (16:53):
Yeah, I'm a degenerate Mike Carbon alongside Jason Fitz no
Jason Smith this week. He'll be back on Monday. As
we traverse the Major League Baseball All Star Week what
people sometimes called the dead time, I say, well, we
start flipping the script and we talk more football, football, football,
which we'll do a little bit next hour. In addition
to it, welcoming in Mark Medina for a few minutes
(17:15):
talking about this US a Canada tilt and other things
going on in the National Basketball Association. But media days
always give us a little bit of fun, Jason, and
with the Big twelve, well where do you turn? But
Dion Sanders and his son Shador Sanders making the rounds
doing some interviews and gave us some absolute gold with
(17:38):
the expectations for this year. Remember it started September was
the month of Colorado. The Buffaloes were running wild like
Hulkamania in the mid eighties, leaving no wrestling reference a
stone unturned as we go forward. But Shadoor Sanders also said, yeah, yeah,
we understand what we are in.
Speaker 8 (17:58):
Terms of film operating with a certain op legation thing.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
Does that total flow over to you.
Speaker 8 (18:02):
As his son and being in the spotlight as you
just answered that, there's a different level in how you
feel you have to perform. Do you have an obligation
to perform at a different level.
Speaker 9 (18:11):
It's been there since day one. I remember first media
day when I was in HBCU, I said, well, if
you want to lose a game, I try. I'm undefeated
in a swag, so I already know what the expectation
comes with. I know where everybody's super Bowl. So I'm
really just I always stay level ahead, to stay grounded,
because I just I would never want to be that
(18:34):
guy look back and not being able to take an
advantage of the moment that we.
Speaker 6 (18:38):
Have right now.
Speaker 3 (18:40):
There you go, you talking about everybody's Super Bowl and joy.
It goes back to something we were talking about before,
right when you're in a spotlight kind of situation and
trying to find those eyeballs, trying to find you know,
when we meet it out with nil deals and everything else,
it's like for opponents, yeah, it's a big game because
they know there's a lot of folks the love hate.
(19:01):
We talked about it earlier, you know, with all the
w NBA talk over the last month. Jason of When
the Fever, when the sky Play Heroes and Villains, Missoula
gave us the great quote the Celtics coach saying, yeah,
you're a villain in somebody's eyes. But if you're the villain,
that means they're watching right. You want to be loved
or hated. You don't want people to be indifferent. And
(19:24):
for Colorado football, whether people jumped on board and jumped
on the bandwagon there of what Dion Sanders and his
sons and Travis Hunter are doing, or they're just rooting
for Dion de fail for whatever reason, that gets on
board there and you can draw myriad lines as you
(19:44):
want to go. But we also know that the opponents
from North Dakota State, who they open with all the
way down, Yeah, that's a chance to get some extra
tape and maybe some eyeballs towards next level, or maybe
a local car dealership gets on board after a big play.
Speaker 5 (20:02):
I think the interesting part about all of that is, yes,
they are everybody super Bowl, But then we got to
ask ourselves a question, whose fault is that? And I
do mean the word fault, like if people are coming
in with extra eyeballs on Shdore or extra eyeballs on Colorado,
that's because Dion has created the circus, Like there are
(20:23):
tons of young players that don't come in with that
level of we're gonna take down.
Speaker 6 (20:28):
Like nobody came in.
Speaker 5 (20:29):
With a negative connotation around Marvin Harrison Junior. When he
got to Ohio State. It was quite the opposite. It was,
Oh my god, let's see what this kid can do.
This is awesome. His dad was alleged, Like we see
that all the time. And when you talk about coaches
that are wildly famous to their area, I mean Penny
Hardaway at Memphis. Nobody's gunning for Penny.
Speaker 6 (20:47):
Now.
Speaker 5 (20:48):
I know they haven't had the success that they want,
but part of that is because Penny doesn't really give
the clips like Juwan Howard didn't give the clips for that.
Speaker 4 (20:55):
There are we to fight people on the sidelines, But you.
Speaker 5 (21:00):
Know what I'm saying, Like, there's just this element of
Shador is under an intense amount of pressure and always
has been, in part because his dad never stops running
his mouth, and like, so I want to have sympathy
for the fact that, man, that's got to be really
difficult for a kid that just wants to play college football,
but also talk to your dad like your pop's is
creating this situation. So it's interesting because we feel it
(21:24):
in the college football community is something I've been lucky
enough to cover for a long time. And you know,
Yahoo last fall, one of the things I was doing
was reaction videos to the biggest moments on Saturday. Well
after one week, we saw that the numbers flew through
the roof. If we just all we had to do
was say Colorado's name and the numbers flew through the roof.
Speaker 6 (21:41):
That's real. So all of a sudden, the attention being paid.
I mean, Dion got what he wanted.
Speaker 5 (21:46):
He got he got more platform for his team and
for himself and for his kid. But with that comes
this extra ancillary you know, the damage that's done. It's
collateral damage to the entire process. And that's his dad's fault.
Speaker 4 (22:00):
Oh, we wrap our arms around it.
Speaker 3 (22:01):
Right. We're watching Team USA tonight and they just went
to commercial on FS one with the shot of lebron James,
you know, wiping the sweat away from his face and
all the attention that he commands. And Bronnie James right,
it's been part of Fenley's updates.
Speaker 4 (22:18):
Should it be.
Speaker 3 (22:19):
I don't know, he didn't do anything, but he's Bronnie
James right, And it's those kind of things where if
it moves the needle and it gets people excited right
grumbling as they were. I did my big take on
the word nepotism as it relates to the larger world,
because people got, you know, their panties in a bunch
over Bronnie James getting drafted fifty fifth. Yet they think
(22:43):
nothing of calling and asking for favors to get the
friend of a friend, the kid whomever a job along
the way, just saying, you know, let's look in the
mirror now and again when we have our hot take theater.
You can find that in the podcast area wherever it is.
If you want to hate me for it, you can
send me the notes. That's rolling dome too.
Speaker 5 (23:03):
And if you're in the yeah, do you think there's
a single dad that wouldn't do that for their kid?
Speaker 3 (23:09):
If that's the point, that's the point I'm making, right,
And this is obviously on a grand scale because it's
the sanctity of the Lakers. But how many people's like, yeah,
my kid thinks they might kind of want a sort
of do this job. Can you let them be an
intern for a semester?
Speaker 4 (23:26):
Okay?
Speaker 5 (23:28):
And look, I I one of my closest friends in
the world is Michael Junior. Obviously, you know his dad
was part of Mike and Mike, and you know when
Mike got into radio, everybody that's just the number one
thing people throw out on social media and nepotism, nepotism, nepotism.
Speaker 6 (23:42):
Well, I mean that sure, that helped him get him
the job.
Speaker 5 (23:46):
I don't think anybody would ever deny that. But then
you still got to put in the work to keep
the job. Yeah, and he worked tirelessly to have the
opportunities he had, and no matter what, people would still
look at it and say, well, your dad, your dad,
your dad. I just think that's such oversimplification.
Speaker 6 (24:00):
And you're right.
Speaker 5 (24:01):
I don't think there are many parents right now listening
that if they could, whether they.
Speaker 6 (24:06):
Work at a law firm or a car factory or.
Speaker 5 (24:08):
A basking rock, whatever you do, kid needs a job.
You're like, hey, my kid needs a job. Do we
need any help for him? Like, that's just that's human.
When did we decide that athletes are not allowed to
be human beings. It's one of the most asinine things
about the way we talk about athletes is that we
put this weird sort of expectation on how they should
act and what they should prioritize, and we forget that
(24:29):
at the end of the day, they're.
Speaker 3 (24:30):
Just people, right, And if Jennie Boss wants to run
or franchise and run out the clock with lebron James
and whatever, this next iteration is for a couple of years,
so be it all right her business. You can go
be a fan of another team for a couple of
years if you want to get off that bandwagon. Remember
they did bring a title a couple of years ago.
I know that gets categorically dismissed by some in the
(24:52):
larger media, usually news, as Frostburg would say, those six
Clipper fans that are running around are the ones that
do that. But it's just the point of for both
Shador Sanders and for Bronnie James. You you run with
it as you will. For Bronnie James, every interview I've seen,
every interaction still pretty uh, pretty grounded. It seems pretty humble,
(25:15):
uh in the process very well. You could say he's
well well coached, but he's not giving you a bunch
of bulletin board material. Shador Sanders takes after his dad
to a degree, right by talking about you know, the
super Bowl, every game, et cetera. You know, yeah, hype
it up. He's he's you know, done some some events
where he's got the flashy automobiles or whatever else.
Speaker 4 (25:37):
I don't begrudge him that, right. It's part of part.
Speaker 3 (25:39):
Of the upbringing, part of the nil world, part of
what you earned. Right and then, and that's where we
get into the discussion, and nepotism usually comes down in
our business or in Hollywood. You know, people have had
to answer those questions. To your point, Mike Golig Junior,
at some point, you've got to do the job.
Speaker 4 (25:56):
I like his food food content.
Speaker 3 (25:58):
When it's you know, trying ram them crap from convenience
stores or whatever, that's when it takes up sports hot
take nonsense. I dish out enough of that myself. I
don't seek that out. But you want to give me
a food recommendation or go down to gluttony lines. Look, man,
I'm a Chicago kid, Southsider. When we talked Chicago pizza places,
(26:19):
hot dog places, and I mentioned the bear before. Get
me a good Italian beef sandwich and all that goes
with it. Yeah, I'm a glutton for that. Kind of content.
I'm all over it. But yeah, you got it. You
can get in the door by any means, any means,
and that's any business, the and suns of the world.
Speaker 4 (26:37):
You gotta go and then earn it to keep it.
Speaker 5 (26:40):
Also, like I think this meritocracy concept where only the
best ever get opportunity is rare in any personal life.
Speaker 6 (26:49):
You know.
Speaker 5 (26:49):
One of my responsibilities when I was touring with the
band Perry was like I was the band leader, you know,
as the musical director of that project, which meant if
one of the guys decided they were going to quit,
it was my to make sure that we still had
a guitar player the next.
Speaker 6 (27:02):
Day, you know.
Speaker 5 (27:02):
And the funny thing is, I've told people this a
million times, but when that happened. There are two times
that with the band a guitar player at you know,
at the luggage place, you know, waiting to get your
luggage after they're playing. Two different times where a guitar
player walked up and said, I can't do this. Like
our busiest year, we were gone three hundred days, we
played two hundred and twenty shows. Like I understand why
it wore some some people out, but the funny thing
(27:23):
is when I'm putting together an audition, the number of
times that we would sit there and audition guys and
it's like, yeah, he's definitively a better basketball or basketball
I have that on.
Speaker 6 (27:31):
He's a better guitar player.
Speaker 5 (27:33):
But I would look over here and say, this guy
is ten percent less of a musician, but one hundred
percent better hang and when you're living on a tour.
Speaker 6 (27:43):
Bus, that matters.
Speaker 5 (27:43):
So to me, I waited those things, and I was
willing to take a lesser player if that meant that
we could get the right fit personality wise. Like, I
think we have to acknowledge that most of society is
like that, right, Like it's not any one thing. It's
a bunch of different individual factors that come into how
people get jobs in every situation. Why is it supposed
to be different, Like just because you we have this
(28:05):
concept of well, I need to have the best at
every position across the board, it's actually the best fit,
and the best fit requires a lot more nuanced in
this conversation than just who's the most talented or who's
the hardest working. It's all of those things together that
provide that we have no idea fifty fifth overall pick.
Somebody wasn't being denied their great opportunity in the NBA
(28:26):
at fifty five overall because Bronni's being taken. So everybody
just needs to.
Speaker 6 (28:30):
Relax with that.
Speaker 3 (28:31):
And that's and that's the bottom line right there, right
fifty fifth. And yes, we can pick through a couple
of dozen guys that went on to greatness, but many
others who never saw the light of day. You're not
guaranteed much of anything. Now they guaranteed the money. Why
because they're going to make money. And we've had this conversation.
But you know, Shudor Sanders back to the you know,
big twelve media days and making the rounds. Yeah, eyeballs
(28:54):
are on you. There's expectations that you could be a
top five pick in this coming year's draft. Hell, your
dad said you and Hunter should go one and two. Right,
he's already put that out there, talking about four or
five guys going in the first round. Yeah, the bulls
eyes there and we know that machine. You know, as
soon as the draft on twenty twenty four came to
(29:15):
a close, Caleb Williams and everything else was done. Guess
what they were already doing the write ups and the
mockx for twenty twenty five. Hell, those were probably done
before the draft of twenty four ever took place in
a lot of spots, and then it was just a
matter of hitsend and published. So yeah, the cycle never ends,
and now they just have to go and earn it.
And that first matchup against North Dakota State won't be
(29:38):
any joke. That's a program, that is a machine that
they're running into. There, he's Jason Fitz in for Jason Smith,
not by Carmen coming up next. One fan said, he
sounded like Jason Smith. I need a Super Bowl Find
me over at Swolling Dome. Jason over at Jason fitz
coming up next. Yeah, the it kind of looked like
(29:59):
the commercial with the screaming and the high pitched and
it's all going towards the same energy, towards the same player.
Speaker 2 (30:05):
Well, be sure to catch live editions of The Jason
Smith Show with Mike harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern,
seven pm Pacific. Do they bring it back for Shrek five?
Speaker 6 (30:15):
Yes? Or no?
Speaker 3 (30:16):
Yeah, more Ricky Martin, Shrek Five's coming and you'll be
ready for it. Mike Carmen alongside Jason fitz here Fox
Sports Radio Jason Smith Show with me Mike Carmon having
a blast. We're watching replay now on FS one. They've
gone back to the Netherlands in England fantastic match from
earlier this afternoon. Because I'm a nerd, I'm gonna watch
it again, That's what I'm gonna do, and I may
(30:39):
comment on it live excitations as it were. Jason, It's
this big weekend, the American Century Championship comes out and
every year we laugh at what are gonna be the
odds for the worst player in the field, that is
Charles Barkley. Would you believe he is seventy five hundred
(31:01):
to one to win the American Century Championship. I think
you might as well light your dollar on fire in
that regard or donated to a good charity of your choice.
But there was a video clip that's making the rounds.
I hope the person's well. But in the spirit of
my normal partner here Jason Smith and his fandom with
(31:23):
the Jets, I have confirmed that unless Smith let's face,
it shed a couple of pounds and it was wearing
a wig. It's not him, but this was the outburst
as he saw his hero in tears at the sight
(31:47):
of Roger saying I need a Super Bowl. He is
Super Bowl and Rodgers goes, yeah, we're gonna win a
Super Bowl. I mean he lied to the guy, So,
I mean, I don't know about that. But the it's
that time of year funny, well, like we're cranking it up.
I've already done several fantasy drafts, but the emotions running
(32:08):
through on a same day where I'm getting a lot
of the Aaron Rodgers running out with the American Flag
memes because of other injuries and certainly related to the
Kawhi Leonard withdrawal from Team USA. I also sent you, guys,
perhaps the best exchange that you can do with the
Kawhi Leonard if you really want to be a funny,
(32:29):
smart ass to your friends and family, which was the hey,
what time are you coming? And then it's a picture
of Kawhi Leonard and you say, what the hell does
that mean? And then you wait and you say, oh,
it means I'm not showing up. She got that going
for you too. But the expectations for the New York
Jets absolutely through the roof saw the coach of the
(32:51):
year odds, Robert slid at eleven to one.
Speaker 4 (32:54):
What are we doing?
Speaker 5 (32:55):
Look, let me be clear here, I'm not buying any
of this, Like, there's nothing about the Jets that I'm
buying this year. And to be honest, I know everybody
wants to sit here and put Aaron Rodgers on a
pedestal right now.
Speaker 6 (33:08):
He's old and he's coming off an Achilles injury.
Speaker 5 (33:11):
Like, I don't know why we have to be so
walking on eggshells when we talk about Aaron Rodgers and
the Jets. Right now, I realized that you could say, well,
all they needed was a competent quarterback last year.
Speaker 6 (33:22):
What assurances do they have?
Speaker 5 (33:24):
Like, Okay, they went out, they shored up the offensive
line with you know, a bunch of mid thirties guys. Yeah,
Like they didn't get the youngest guys, they don't have
the most reliable guys health wise, and you still got
Aaron Rodgers. Like, look, I'd say the same thing about
Kirk Cousins. I don't like a quarterback that's three hundred
and seventy six years old that's coming off an Achilles
injury Like that just seems to me like we're glossing
(33:46):
over that it's in part because last year we got tricked.
Speaker 6 (33:49):
Into so many stupid conversations about well, he's going to
come back in the same season, which.
Speaker 5 (33:54):
If any of us pulled our heads out of our
rear ends, we knew that wasn't going to happen, but
everybody wanted to believe. So now we're just presuming it
all comes together and everything's coming up Roses. And my
issue with Robert Sala is the next time that the
Jets as an organization handle chaos well will be the
first time that I can remember the Jets as an
organization handling chaos well. So when all of this turns
(34:16):
into a dumpster fire inevitably, which just always happens, we
really think that Robert sala is going to be the
calm hand that can right the ship. I don't I
feel like right now we are. We're just presuming the
Bills take this massive step back for yet again, like
we did the same thing before last season. I yelled
up about it last year. Also, the Bills are not
going to take a step back. They haven't taken a
(34:38):
step back. The Dolphins are still gonna beat the bad
football teams like they always doing. Their score a bunch
of points and it's gonna be enter Like the Jets
are the third place team in their.
Speaker 3 (34:46):
Division, Dolphins are the I think it was the third
or fourth highest or best odds for the highest scoring rankings.
You know, at a DraftKings book behind a couple of
the teams in the NFC when we look at what
the Lions and forty nine ers might be, but when
(35:06):
we look at the Jets, Yeah, I think it's a
lot of wishing and hoping right that chaos doesn't find them.
That's suddenly the football gods smile on Aaron Rodgers as
he turns forty years old, and that offensive line can
keep him up upright. Yeah, he gets the ball out fast,
but part of his game has always been the mobility
to extend the play by a little bit of extra
(35:28):
time and let his receivers get break containment to make
big plays. And that to say that he won't have
some success with that with Garrett Wilson, but certainly, you know,
getting you want to talk about nepotism, getting all those
old Packers guys big contracts. I mean, that was some
of the greatest works ever done. You want me to
be happy, Yeah, sign my guys. Oh wait, they only
(35:51):
work with me. They don't really work with any other
quarterback at this point in their careers, and I'm not
on the field, so yeah, I'm with you. The Bills
are to be interesting to watch because you've got different
component parts in the offense, and the Patriots are what
they are in.
Speaker 4 (36:07):
Full rebuild mode.
Speaker 3 (36:08):
Bill Belichick, though, was at the Taylor Swift concert hanging
out with new girlfriend and Travis Kelsey, so that was
kind of cool to see.
Speaker 5 (36:17):
I mean, his new girlfriend is of the age that
she would absolutely be in love with Taylor Swift, so
that makes a ton of sense.
Speaker 3 (36:23):
See there you go, see it all comes together. He's
Jason fitz in for Jason Smith. I'm Mike Harmon here
from the tyreq dot Com Fox Sports Radio Studios. Coming
up next, we get a visit from Mark Medina. What
are we supposed to get from this USA win over Canada?
Hosts And Creators
Jason Smith
Mike Harmon
Popular Podcasts
Crime Junkie
Does hearing about a true crime case always leave you scouring the internet for the truth behind the story? Dive into your next mystery with Crime Junkie. Every Monday, join your host Ashley Flowers as she unravels all the details of infamous and underreported true crime cases with her best friend Brit Prawat. From cold cases to missing persons and heroes in our community who seek justice, Crime Junkie is your destination for theories and stories you won’t hear anywhere else. Whether you're a seasoned true crime enthusiast or new to the genre, you'll find yourself on the edge of your seat awaiting a new episode every Monday. If you can never get enough true crime... Congratulations, you’ve found your people. Follow to join a community of Crime Junkies! Crime Junkie is presented by audiochuck Media Company.
24/7 News: The Latest
The latest news in 4 minutes updated every hour, every day.
Stuff You Should Know
If you've ever wanted to know about champagne, satanism, the Stonewall Uprising, chaos theory, LSD, El Nino, true crime and Rosa Parks, then look no further. Josh and Chuck have you covered.