January 27, 2023 • 35 mins
Jason Smith and Mike Harmon discuss the Cowboys organization with the coming free agents possibly leaving and Dan Quinn staying in Dallas. The guys also have Senior Writer and Insider at NBA.com, Mark Medina on the show to talk basketball.
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by with us again. A phenomenal interview. Will have more
on the Sean Payton situation, which just gets weirder and
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weirder coming up in about twenty minutes. But you know,
outside of that, today, the Dallas Cowboys decide we're gonna
keep a bludgeoning you with headlines from us. They're gonna
keep dan Quinn as their defensive coordinator. Um, and that's it,
you know, another tonight. Yeah, don't look another year where
dan Quinn has done a phenomenal job and the jobs
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out there were not something he wanted to jump and
look former head coach looking for a great situation and
look like Sean Payton. They should, you know, wait before
they have to take a leap, because that's the thing.
When you're a head coach and have some kind of success,
when people want you, you don't have to settle for
any opening, right, Guys who just want a head coaching job,
you gotta jump at it because you may be a
hot candidate now. But if your offense stinks next year,
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guess what, no one's hiring you. But guys like dan
Quinn Sean Payton. Okay, I don't like the cycle this
time around. I'm gonna wait, so I I and do that.
So keeping dan Quinn absolute victory. Now, maybe he's the
head coach and waiting and Jerry Jones want to get
you know, that's that carrot that he's got on the
end of the stick from Mike McCarthy. M hey, you
start coaching bad. I got the guy right, I got
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right here for you. But I think I think the
other part that goes to it is when you've already
had the first bite at the apple, you want to
make sure that second one is nice and juicy and
ripe and ready to go and not another situation whereby
it can go south fast and you find yourself out
of the job and then out of the cycle thereafter,
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because you normally don't get a third bite at the
juicy apple, juicy apple, forbidden apple. So so we're still
talking about come on, man, I have I have fruit
all the time? Apple, I don't know, I don't know,
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a week ago. Maybe yeah, no, no, no, we we
can go, you know. Usually know, honestly, this is where
TI shirt is gonna be proud of me, because usually
the fruit I have are strawberries, strawberries, blueberries, and raspberries
and black raspberries. That's usually the fruit says those aren't
even good for you. No, stop, blueberries a super food?
Come on, man, blueberries And yeah you said, what else? Strawberries,
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raspberries and black rasp Yeah, I know. On the raspberries. Wow,
why don't you like the rest? No raspberries and cranberries.
No good. But I didn't say cranberries just I'm just
telling you another one to hell have a band. Though.
The raspberries were great there all the way. Question about
that dude disrespected the cranberries like that. Oh man, all right,
tight shirt. We got to get go all the way
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by the raspberries in the next few minutes ago when
you can sell me officially? Last time you in an apple?
Last week? I had an apple? Last week had an apple.
I had an apple at work last week. You actually
walked in while I was eating an house No, no,
that had caramel on it. That doesn't count, Nick, did not. No,
I do not like caramel apples. I am not a
caramel apple guy. Don't lie. You walked into the kitchen
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while I was having an apple. Usually I'm having now
that's that's a lot of other times. But this U came.
I was eating an apple. I remember talking about it.
Eating an apple. You came in to heat up whatever
it's like you say, Oh never he stuff up in
a microwave And what are you doing eating? Wasn't Yes,
you worked, Jason. That was a baby's arm holding an apple.
That was somebody came on the floor. Okay, time out, time,
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I need a time out and out, time out. We
gotta talk at all. No cranberries, okay, but if we
could hear the raspberries, that would be great. Barren out
bo bound bound bound. Uh. So the Cowboys keep Dan Quinn.
But in other news, they let go a lot of
other coaches. Right now, this gets into a big thing
about blaming dak when maybe somebody else deserves a little
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bit more blame. Right, So, the Cowboys let a bunch
of coaches go, including Skip Pete, who's the running backs
coach who was really close with Ezekiel Elliott, and Ezekiel
Elliott's agent. So of course this Fosters, are they bringing
Ezekiel Elliott back? Would they fire a guy he's close
with if they were talking about keeping Ezekiel Elliott. So
the answer is no. Look, we've talked about for a
long time. The Cowboys have to move on from Ezekiel Elliott, right,
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He's he's just not that guy anymore. He hasn't been
that guy for a while. But if you really want
to talk about a guy that you want to blame
for the Cowboys the last three years. Right, Dad gets
all the blame because he's the quarterback. But it's not
my fault that you And when I say you, I
mean you, Lieutenant Weinberg, I mean you. In the media
and fans want to talk about Dak like he's Tom
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Brady or Patrick Mahomes when he never has been. So
you can't tell me Dak's that disappointing when he's been
a league average quarterback and a couple of years he's
been a little bit better. He had the one really
really good year, and he had one year that was
that was really good, and he had okay, he had
a really good year and he had a great year,
and another years are about the same. Right, that's Derek Carr. Right,
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So it's like you're blaming Derek Carr for everything wrong
with the Raiders. Let's blame Dak. It's no Dac has
showed you from the beginning this is who I am.
He has never made you believe he is somebody other
than what he is. It's not my fault. The Cowboys
wanted to give him forty five million dollars a year.
It's not my fault. People talk about him in the
media like he's a top three quarterback that always disappoints.
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Not my fault, not who he is. But you want
to talk about a guy that you can put offensive
blame on, that's Ezekiel Elliott. Because this is a guy
who came into the league and he was great. This
he was unbelieved. He came in like a rookie running back.
It's like, oh my god, we haven't seen a rookie
running back like that in a long time. He comes
in as a rookie, he runs for sixteen hundred yards.
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Remembering that two thousand and sixteen season, it was Doc
and Zeke and who's more important? Boy? Look at Dac
as a rookie. They got lucky, and but it's really
Zeke and the Cowboys offensive line. I mean, this was
Ezekiel Elliott's team. He was the best running back. And
think this guy is gonna be unbelievable. Look at what
he's gonna be able to do. And what happened. He
had a great year sixteen hundred yards in fifteen touchdowns
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as a rookie. Then he played in less games, didn't
have his grade a year in twenty seventeen, had a
really good year in nineteen. But what happened in he
got paid. He got paid very early in twenty nineteen,
and that was the last elite year that he had.
That was it. He has been a different running back
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for the past three years. He he you know what
he reminds me of. Remember when Chris Johnson got paid
by the Titans and suddenly he was running into the
line of scrimmage with two arms on the ball and
falling down, and it was what is It's like he stopped.
It's like he stopped trying, like I'm done. I got paid.
I'm never getting paid again, so I'm not I I
don't want to get hurt anymore. So it's gonna run
into the line of scrimmage and fall down. When Chris
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Johnson was such an unbelievable every play, you had to
know where he was or he was gonna take it
to the house. He got paid, he ran into the
line of scrimmage and fell down. Zeke turned into that guy,
all right, he's at He had his last The only
reason he ran for a thousand yards last year because
there was an extra game. His yards per carry is
down a full half yard. Right, He's had the touchdowns
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because well, we'll give him the ball in the one
yard line to put in. Okay, but still he's really disappointed.
Its average per yards per carry this year was down
to three point eight, right, and you say, well, okay,
maybe something's wrong with the Cowboys. Tony Pollard was able
to have a big season. Tony Pollard became the number
one running back with the Cowboys. That he got hurt
and now he's out. And it's awful for Dallas because
he was so good and he was the answer to
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their to their woes on offense this year. But Tony
Pollard had a really good year. So you can't tell
me all what the team blocks for Tony Pollard, but
they don't block for Ezekiel Elliott. I mean, call on
the guy average five yards to carry this year, Elliott
was under four yards to carry um he ran for
He ran for a thousand yards with a hundred and
ninety three touches, didn't even touch the ball two hundred times.
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Tony Pollard was this good. So, yeah, you want to
talk about a guy that's disappointed if you have been
able to run this offense the last three years with
Ezekiel Elliott, a guy who was actually tried and not
just decided I got paid, now I'm done. Yeah, I
guess what things would have been different of the Dallas
Cowboys because I know he was great because he was
great for three years and then he got paid and
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then he stopped being great. So if you want to
blame somebody on the Cowboys for why haven't we achieved,
forget about Dak. Dak showed you who he was. Doak
was never great. Dak was always pumped up as great.
Ezekielly was great, great for three years and then suddenly
he just stopped. So that's really a guy. If you
want to look at who was holding our offense back,
that's the guy to look at. Yeah, I mean above
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average certainly for Dak. I don't I don't put him
as just a guy. I don't think he's a jag.
I think he's better than that. But he certainly was
a guy. When it came time for contracts, the best
argument anybody had was he's the next man up, not
that he'd done anything to deserve uh that contract, and
to make you believe that he was going to be
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a world beater thereafter last year, dred yards thirty seven
touchdowns and ten picks fantastic another huge year UH back
in nineteen. He had obviously a career best with his
dred yards and another thirty touchdown season, but Layton games decisions, uh,
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and look, it's a it was an imperfect roster. So
you can also to some degree that gets not a pass.
But he gets off the hook a little bit because
beyond Ceedee Lamb and Dalton Schultze, he really didn't have
a whole lot to work within the past game. I
guess Pollard a bit, and the fact that Elliott was
still a pretty good pass blocker but the offensive line
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not the same shows that Pollard was the better, more
explosive back. Now, doesn't it lends more credence to that
are that argument? But it's an easy fall guy that
Ezekiel and I don't know that I equated necessarily to
getting paid, but did miss time. I had a couple
of injuries. We know we had a knee issue that
bothered him last year. Still got to a thousand yards
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on the year and and has been a pretty good
vulture in and around the goal line, except when they
needed him to catch one UH in their playoff loss.
Too soon, wait, way too soon, guys, are throwing come
On Harmon to Cowboys. Fans are now taking their radios
and throwing them out the window, just like they did
with their TVs after the game. After you said that
that's all right, come to come to the Mike Harmon
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Dallas Cowboy themed rage room. Coming to an empty mall
location near to you. Me, me and the Halloween stores
are gonna be fighting for your business. Nope, that's not happening.
The guys are gonna be just like the guy saying
Jerry Jones, Joe's me a TV. He's gonna say, Mike Harmon,
owes me your radio show to where it's something straight
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out of a Halloween Horror Nights. You smash something, Hey,
there's fake blood, you know it's It's the kind of
thing though with with the Cowboys. It also just lends
itself back to the expectation that you are wearing the
Dallas Cowboys star in the uniform, So suddenly your value
is X plus whatever percentage better than you really are
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because the expectations are there, and any achievements are going
to be magnified that much more, which is why losing
a game against you know, a superior team that you
did a good job of living it. It's limiting it
to the Robbie Gold brilliance. Um gets kind of pushed
off to the side because no, it's you failed. Now
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you got beaten by a better team. Uh, it's easier
to just now bash Dak. But yeah, Zeke Elliott, it'll
look good in a Cardinals uniform. Like Emmett Smith before him.
I mean this, He actually said today, Hey, I would
take a pay cut to stay. It's too late, man,
that's too late. It's it's too late for you. They
gotta be done. This is they They paid him because
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he was really good for those years and Jerry and
Jerry Jones just had a blind spot for We drafted
him and he's great, and it's validation for me as
an owner and the Cowboys organization. That's why Jerry Jones pays.
He pays, He pays him because these are players that
became great with the Cowboys and I'm validating that. Whether
it's bad good business or not. He decided to do it,
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and so you Zeke held out and held and so
oh no, we gotta go pay him. Oh, Jerry, Jerry,
you don't pay running backs like that anymore. Nobody does.
But let's give them money. And look what happened. Now
you have all that money tied up in Zeke. You
had to give him the ball because this is what
has held the Cowboys back, because when you give Zeke
that kind of cash, you have to give him the football.
And what's better if they gave the ball to Tony
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Pollard the last couple of years of Ezekiel Elliott. Give
the ball more to Tony Pollard. But can't because you
gave Zeke all that money and you don't have more
money to pay for another position you might need a
guy at because you're paying Ezekiel Elliott fourteen million dollars
a year. That's a double whammy of of what's stopping
the Cowboys from being great. Do you want to blame
a guy? Elliot's the guy to blame. Well, you lose
that contract, it's another offensive lineman or a wide receiver,
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This is a round show with with my best friend
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Big goings on in the NBA tonight, joining us now
to break it all down. Longtime friend of the show.
You can follow him on Twitter at Mark g Underscore Medina.
That's at Mark Underscore Medina. Mark NBA writer for NBA
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dot Com Insider, covered the Warriors, the Lakers, and now
he's got a big column on NBA dot com tomorrow,
ten thousand words on how he thought that Nick should
have had five all star starters in the game and
they didn't get any. Mark, welcome inside. Good shouting with you, sir.
I submitted the column, but it got spiked. I don't
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know what happened. Do you mean Spike Lea did something
to it? Or do you mean it? Nobody told me.
I can neither confirm nor deny. I also cannot confirm
nor did I if I was denied entered MSG because
of this facial recognition technology. Wait a minute, that's Mark Mdina.
He wrote that critical column about me back in I
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bowed my band Without getting into details, if one NBA
player could ban you for life from an arena, who
would it be? That's pretty good. I would say probably
D'Angelo Russell. Yeah, when he was on the Lakers, we
had some back and forth moments, for sure. It was
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fun times. You had that answer ready, that was in
your holster, man, it was ready to go. I I
knew from the first jump. I don't I've never had
many problems of players, But I mean, everything's fine now
with what under the brudge. But we definitely had our
back and forth moments during his short lived time in
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the Lakers. Boy, all right, well look, let's let's let's
talk about the All Stars here for a second. We
find out who the starters are. You you know you
put up on Twitter. Hey, we're gonna talk about some snubs.
I mean, was there a snub outside of Jalen Brunson
and Julius Randall. I mean that was quite a loaded
question there. Look, I didn't vote for Jalen Brunson, but
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I'm not here to kick a Knicks fan while he's down.
I think he's going to get in his reserve. He's
very deserving. I mean, he's uh, he's lived up to
the expectations and beyond as far as his time in
New York, but as far as the starter snubs, I mean, look,
I had some different players. I chose Joe Embiad for example,
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in the front court in the East, I didn't have
I didn't have Kyrie Irving as a backcourt. I had
Jalen Brown. But I think that they're they're interchangeable. And
when guy, you know, when people complain, oh this guy
got snubbed, this guy got snubbed, you have to answer
the question, Okay, who do you replace that player with?
And Joel Embiid, I don't think it's disrespectful to him
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if you say, you know what, I chose Kevin Durant instead, right,
or I think Jalen Brown should have gotten All Star. Uh,
it's disrespectful to say Kyrie got in and said, Okay,
maybe that that's an exception. Kyrie doesn't deserve it because
he had this nonsense with the suspension. But generally speaking,
usually when you play that game, you realize, you know what,
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it really wasn't much of a snub. But the reason
why I chose Embiid, Look, I'm I had an out.
Kevin Durant still hurts so I don't think he'll be
available anyway. Um And in the case of you know,
Jalen Brown for Kyrie, I think that Jalen's you know,
he's on taste of post career highs. The Celtics are
the number one seven. The reason, the reason why the
Death's got off to such a poor start, a lot
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of it had to do with Kyrie, But you know,
he does deserve credit for his stellar play post suspension,
and you know you have to credit him for his
role for the Nets getting back into the swing of things.
So does mouthpiece throwing become an All Star weekend event?
I think it's already started. Like I already saw some
of the tweets about like, oh this guy got snubbed
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and we need to go positional list. I do agree.
I think it is better for the NBA to, instead
of voting starters to backcourt three front court, choose the
best five players. Um, you know, there is a danger
maybe in Joel embiads case, and all of a sudden,
you're playing with lineups that you know today's modern MBA
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would not do, where you're having like four big men
right on the on the same team. But I think
in like Jason Tatum's case, for example. Uh, when it
comes to the East, maybe it would have been more
understandable if all four of those front court players are
there and you just choose, you know, Donovan Mitchell or
Jalen Brown or Kyrie and that's a serviceable All Star team.
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But I think where the snubs get into play is
the reserve herbs, right, because those are hard choices, and
ironically enough, when everyone cries foul about that, whether it's
players or coaches, for some reason, it's always bestowed on
the media. This guy got snubbed, but they ignored the
fine print that the coaches are the ones that vote
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for the reserves. The starters are only the fans media players,
so you know, direct the ankst that the coaches on
the sideline for for those things. Well, we'll go and
and find our way courtside with the bullhorn and try
to make that happen. Mark reference the fun and excitement
in Golden State. Steph Curry wanted the shot, Jordan's Pool
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took it, a Pool eventually gets the game winner. Uh,
is there any real friction there beyond you know, hey,
dream Draymond wanted to you know, fight him before the season.
But is that something that's becoming an issue for them? Well, look,
thankfully for the Warriors, they won the game, and uh
that heals a lot of wounds. I mean so much that, Uh,
you know, Jordan Pool is po spotted in the tunnel
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and seemed Stuff curry and throwing his own mouth Jess
and Stuff got a good laugh out of it. But no,
I think that as as much as Stuff projects an
image of that day, he's a really good guy and
his leadership is more about positive reinforcement. Uh. He also
has an emotional side to him that I think is warranted,
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and he has a lot of high expectations. So I
don't think that his reaction with throwing the mouth piece
across the court was just about Jordan Pool hoisting up
a wrong three with twelve seconds on the shot clock
when they have only a one possession lead. Um. This
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is kind of a larger picture, where you know, from
as much as we've seen Jordan Pool grow, we also
see that he's still a young player learning how to
play the right way. Um. And so I think that
that will be interesting moving forward. I think the Warriors
have the ingredients to make this a learning moment. I
mean so much that they were able to make it
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a learning moment within that game specifically, but there's also
a recipe that it doesn't go that way, and it's
kind of symbolic of a larger thing of how do
the Warriors navigate the season of trying to have both
things at once. We know on the All Stars and
these young players and so farn't really haven't penned much
because they're twenty four and twenty four. You know that
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that's the thing going forward, is that there's a lot
of teams that are sitting at the half full half empty? Right?
Can the Warriors make a move the deadline to to
get up the standings a bit? Can the Lakers make
another movie? Is there something there for them? Is there
something there for the Grizzlies to get them up over
the Nuggets? Right? Is there something that the Sixers need
to be able to clearly be the best team in
the East. And you know, you think about all these
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movies to be made at the deadline, all these teams
we look for something, Marc, is there going to be
anything available to deadline? It's not like there's a lot
of big names and a that's gonna We're hearing could
be available that could really change the fortunes. I don't
know that It's not just a lot of hey, here's
some death pieces that are going to change locations, and
hoping that maybe you find the right chemistry off the
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bench and that can do something for you. Yeah. I
mean usually major trade deadline deals requires one scenario, one
or two scenarios. One of the scenarios is a star
player makes it clear that he wants out and he has,
you know, either the last season on his deal or
another season his deal before expires, and the teams like, hey,
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we may as well cash him in for something. The
other scenario is, you know, teams outright uh, stripping down
the roster so they can get Victor Webban Webban Yana
Yama for example. Maybe it happens with some of these
teams where hey, they're gonna unload a bunch of young
players and draft picks to clear the decks. Were not
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young players, were more draft picks and veterans. But I
just don't see, you know, the market for that star
player like Damian Liward isn't leaving Portland, Bradley Beale isn't
leaving Portland. We won your time and time again, when
are is the devotion between both sides gonna break? And
it just it isn't happening. And so I think for
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the Lakers and the Warriors, no doubt they're going to
canvass on the landscape. But I think in the Warriors case,
I don't think they're of the mind of egg not
only not getting rid of their all stars, but I
think there is an investment with the young players. Um
with the Lakers. I think everything outside of Lebron James,
I mean, he couldn't even trade Lebron they wanted to,
but everything outside of Lebron and a D is on
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the table. The problem is teams don't want Russell Westbrook
and the rest of their assets aren't that attractive, and
the Lakers don't want to give up their two first
round picks unless this is a movie that puts them
into championship contention. Rob Polinka was saying the other day
after gaining really Achi Mora for Kendrick Nunn in three
second round picks from Washington, they said, we'll make a move, uh,
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if if it improves the championship odds. But we're we're
not believers of incremental change here. So it has to
be one or the other. So when you when you
connect all these thoughts here, the Lakers don't have other
assets to make that happen. So I think if they
do any moves, it's going to be on the margins.
It's gonna involve, you know, either Patrick Beverley and or
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Lonnie Walker, the fourth expiring contract and maybe some more
second round picks and that's it. But you know what
that's gonna get you, that are really at you, mora,
Maybe a decent player can fulfill some positional needs, but
doesn't fundamentally change the team's long term fortunes now on
the trade trade market as a whole. We were certainly
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all watching bit uh in the interim. It's the fun
and exciting world of Anthony Davis. What's your overall underset?
And how many games these guys play together the rest
of the year. Well, it's a good question. I mean
with Anthony Davis, who does never know? I mean his
first game back against Antoni, who already set off a
scare where you know that Collins invaded his landing space.
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He rolled his right ankle, he's grabbing it. Everyone's gasping.
I mean, Darvin Ham said he almost fainted and then
he gets up and he's fine. You know, I think,
to be fair to Anthony Davis and the Lakers, they've
been very diligent about his rehab process. He saw multiple
doctors before determining he didn't need surgery. Um, you know,
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he went through UH you know, the rigorous physical training
and weight bearing exercises before doing individual workouts and you know,
team contact practices this past week. But because of Anthony
Davis's injury history and durability, I can't help but wonder
will we see more of this? But I think to
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be fair day d I think that this is his
worst injury of the season, and moving forward, it's gonna
be you know, maybe one game here, a few games there.
He's already on a minute restriction coming off the bench.
And when I asked Darvin Ham what's his next expectation
on how long that's gonna be, he projected for the
next week or so, and that coincides with the Lakers
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going on the road, So yeah, he's not playing every
single game. But I think it's gonna have to do
with more of load management and minor UH injuries as
opposed to this other major ailment. That comes up like
what happened with his right foot earlier this season. He's
on Twitter at Mark g Underscore Medina. That's at Mark
g Underscore Medina. Check out his latest on NBA dot com.
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And he will be co writing the D'Angelo Russell biography
that's coming out next year. Uh so I'll look forward
to that. Do you have a title for it yet? Mark?
Should I just say d Loading? That's his nickname, right,
d Loading with Mark Medina, and it'll be like a
big circle with the red across three your face. There
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you go, you know what, that would be great art,
It might sell well. I think a better play here
is Hey, I'm mean, I'm not being I'm not trolling
here our site. My colleague Sean pal He did a
very good piece the other day about why Jalen Brunson
deserves to be an All Star. Um, I think it's
gonna be the first nixed All Star since Clyde fraser
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Us or Mark Jackson. There's only been three Nick point
guards that have been All Stars in the organization's history.
But you know what, that right here's definitely never coming
on the show. Uh Oh, I love that. I'm digging that. Hey,
Jalen Brunson m v P. It's all I'm gonna say,
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Mark as always, buddy, thank you so much. We'll talk
to you next week. Enjoy the games. It sounds like
a plan. We'll talk Bronson next week, I promise. All Right,
there we go. Br Brunson spoken into existence and it
broke the man down. Yeah. Look, he's got to he's
got to make the All Star team. He hasked to,
he's had, he's had that kind of a big year
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to impact people wanted to say in the off season.
You know you're paying twenty five million for a guy
who's gonna transform your team to Congratulations, Jalen Brunson MVP
All Star first, m v P, next, NBA title third,
It's just going in order like that, just like the
jetson Aaron Rodgers. Every day is something new, every day
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is something new. For Jalen Brunson, every day something new.
Let's if he's on the odds while we talked to Steve,
all right, now we will find out what's trending in
the wide world of sports, which includes a big night
from Jalen Brunson in the Knicks victory of the year,
maybe the greatest NBA game in the history of the
sport as they beat the Celtics. But be sure to
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Really weird today, right, really weird development involving Sean Payton,
who was everybody's choice to be there next head coach
in the NFL. If you got an opening, Sean Payton
was your guy. Right now, we're so excited to get
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Sean Payton. We'll give up whatever you want, whatever the
Saints Wanton compensation, we'll give it up. We want him.
Houston wants him, Denver, Arizona, maybe Indianapolis. Now Carolina talked
to him across Carolina off the list. They hired Frank
Reich earlier today. We talked about this last night and
then congratulations, it got a bigger deal today. Surprise when
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We mentioned it last night. It show. You know, what
could I say? We provide content? Uh, it seems like
the Sean Payton train has sort of, I don't want
to say, left the station. But you can't really you
can't really tell where it's going right now. I feel
like all the momentum behind him becoming a head coach
somewhere this year in the NFL is now gone. And
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and you look at what happened today. A tweet by
Mark Maski, who was an NFL reporter for the Watchington Post,
put out a tweet earlier today that um Peyton's interview
with the Broncos there was an issue because while Peyton
liked the idea of coaching Russell Wilson and having that defense,
he thought there could be a potential power struggle with
a member of the ownership group. Now Sean Payton quote
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tweeted this and said zero truth to this. We had
a great visit and Broncos ownership was fantastic. So something
is going on right now where where I mean none
of this is one side is completely lying, the other
one is completely talented. You know something is going on
here and it's It really baffles me that someone who
a month ago was will move heaven and Earth to
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get this guy. There's no surefire guy to higher than
Sean Payton. Every quarterback who has played for Sean Payton
has been great, whether it's for your entire career like
Drew Brees, or for five minutes like Teddy Bridgewater, or
for three minutes like Taysom Hill. Everybody he's had has
been really, really good. And now suddenly he not gonna
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get a gig, Mike. And I'll tell you what I'm
looking at this. I mean, he's gonna be back in
the broadcast booth this year. He's gonna go through this
whole cycle thinking, oh, maybe the Cowboys that want me,
maybe it's the Dolphins, maybe it's somebody else, and he's
gonna wind up saying, uh, I don't like any of
these openings. And I would just be jumping back in
to jump back in, because is he really gonna jump
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back into Arizona who you don't know at all, what
your situations with your quarterback or with Houston, where you're
building it from the ground up because you have absolutely nothing.
I think Sean Payton's gonna wind up being back in
the broadcast booth and say, Okay, we'll try it again
next year. His star has fallen so much and in
this cycle where just like I said, and nothing's really happened.
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It's just been a month ago. Was we gotta get
Sean Payton and now it's um, nobody's gonna wind up
getting Sean Payton. That's kind of where we're at. Yeah.
I think with some of it, it becomes the all right,
what's the price you're you're asking uh in compensation that
needs to go back to New Orleans to make this
thing happen. In the case of Miami, they don't have
first round pick because you know they were talking to
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Sean Payton on a boat, he and Tom and Tom
Brady last year, which still doesn't make sense to me.
Rich people can't get together and commiserate on a boat
without it being seen as nefarious. Did they have it bugged?
I don't know. But suddenly you're back in Wolf of
Wall Street, Yeah, with somebody off the side of the boat.
Yell and here's some fun bucks. Hey, here's some fun bucks.
That's what I call him. Here you go, Kyle Chandler's
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coming to visit you, and you realize that you're in
a little bit of trouble right here because coach Eric
Taylor's coming to visit me. Hey, doesn't that guy work
for the NFL? That's walking on the boat. That's the
guy serving us the shrimp cocktail? Isn't it Goodell's right
hand man? What's going on here? So they had he
had that situation Denver. Look, he took the twitter, as
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you said, to refute that report. But also, you know,
we we are looking at a situation where we'd heard
about you know, maybe maybe George Payton he's gotta do
is personnel whatever, But that the head coach, remember that
report that it was going to be more work with
the owners that necessarily through the football execs as middleman,
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which is kind of curious in terms of the structuring
if you're bringing in somewhat of Peyton silk, So I
can see whether maybe that doesn't work. Arizona evidently met
with them for a good chunk of the day. So
you've got that still on the radar. Does does is
he intrigued enough by Kyler Murray to wait it out
and try to build around maybe what full season working
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with DeAndre Hopkins. Maybe there's there's enough there that it
intrigues you to a degree. But you mentioned Houston, and
we always said on the show, going back to the
beginning of the Spinning Carousel, it was cowboys probably in
the two spots, Dolphins sitting down there, depending on what
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Ross wants to do. But it was all about the
Chargers and everything else just seemed like a pipe dream
and enough for fodder, wishing and hoping that was your
dream date in the coaching line, that he'd give you
the rose. I got TV all over the place. I
got rose. I'm so exciting shows us. Will you? Will
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you take this journey with me to the NFL playoffs
and beyond excuse me and the big music swells, everybody
gets excited. Oh we show clips of what's coming outremony.
Oh sure, yeah, that's outstanding. Uh. The Jason Smiths with
Mike Carmon Live the tirect dot Com Studios. The one
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thing about Peyton I will tell you is that the
Saints they got to back off their first round picking more.
He's not coaching for you and ever again, just get
what you get. Your scaring teams off. You don't want
to scare teams off. You got you gotta be able
to move on you get. If you get a second
and third or something else, or just one first, you
get what you get. You can't you can't hold this
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process up. It would be cool if he could do
a man into the Royal Rumble thing, come back to
the Saints and bring Brady with him. My god, hey
speaking to bring somebody with him. Who's Nathaniel Hackett going
to bring to the Jets with him? Aaron Rodgers. Nobody
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on the Sean Payton situation, which just gets weirder and
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weirder coming up in about twenty minutes. But you know,
outside of that, today, the Dallas Cowboys decide we're gonna
keep a bludgeoning you with headlines from us. They're gonna
keep dan Quinn as their defensive coordinator. Um, and that's it,
you know, another tonight. Yeah, don't look another year where
dan Quinn has done a phenomenal job and the jobs
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out there were not something he wanted to jump and
look former head coach looking for a great situation and
look like Sean Payton. They should, you know, wait before
they have to take a leap, because that's the thing.
When you're a head coach and have some kind of success,
when people want you, you don't have to settle for
any opening, right, Guys who just want a head coaching job,
you gotta jump at it because you may be a
hot candidate now. But if your offense stinks next year,
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guess what, no one's hiring you. But guys like dan
Quinn Sean Payton. Okay, I don't like the cycle this
time around. I'm gonna wait, so I I and do that.
So keeping dan Quinn absolute victory. Now, maybe he's the
head coach and waiting and Jerry Jones want to get
you know, that's that carrot that he's got on the
end of the stick from Mike McCarthy. M hey, you
start coaching bad. I got the guy right, I got
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right here for you. But I think I think the
other part that goes to it is when you've already
had the first bite at the apple, you want to
make sure that second one is nice and juicy and
ripe and ready to go and not another situation whereby
it can go south fast and you find yourself out
of the job and then out of the cycle thereafter,
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because you normally don't get a third bite at the
juicy apple, juicy apple, forbidden apple. So so we're still
talking about come on, man, I have I have fruit
all the time? Apple, I don't know, I don't know,
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a week ago. Maybe yeah, no, no, no, we we
can go, you know. Usually know, honestly, this is where
TI shirt is gonna be proud of me, because usually
the fruit I have are strawberries, strawberries, blueberries, and raspberries
and black raspberries. That's usually the fruit says those aren't
even good for you. No, stop, blueberries a super food?
Come on, man, blueberries And yeah you said, what else? Strawberries,
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raspberries and black rasp Yeah, I know. On the raspberries. Wow,
why don't you like the rest? No raspberries and cranberries.
No good. But I didn't say cranberries just I'm just
telling you another one to hell have a band. Though.
The raspberries were great there all the way. Question about
that dude disrespected the cranberries like that. Oh man, all right,
tight shirt. We got to get go all the way
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by the raspberries in the next few minutes ago when
you can sell me officially? Last time you in an apple?
Last week? I had an apple? Last week had an apple.
I had an apple at work last week. You actually
walked in while I was eating an house No, no,
that had caramel on it. That doesn't count, Nick, did not. No,
I do not like caramel apples. I am not a
caramel apple guy. Don't lie. You walked into the kitchen
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while I was having an apple. Usually I'm having now
that's that's a lot of other times. But this U came.
I was eating an apple. I remember talking about it.
Eating an apple. You came in to heat up whatever
it's like you say, Oh never he stuff up in
a microwave And what are you doing eating? Wasn't Yes,
you worked, Jason. That was a baby's arm holding an apple.
That was somebody came on the floor. Okay, time out, time,
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I need a time out and out, time out. We
gotta talk at all. No cranberries, okay, but if we
could hear the raspberries, that would be great. Barren out
bo bound bound bound. Uh. So the Cowboys keep Dan Quinn.
But in other news, they let go a lot of
other coaches. Right now, this gets into a big thing
about blaming dak when maybe somebody else deserves a little
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bit more blame. Right, So, the Cowboys let a bunch
of coaches go, including Skip Pete, who's the running backs
coach who was really close with Ezekiel Elliott, and Ezekiel
Elliott's agent. So of course this Fosters, are they bringing
Ezekiel Elliott back? Would they fire a guy he's close
with if they were talking about keeping Ezekiel Elliott. So
the answer is no. Look, we've talked about for a
long time. The Cowboys have to move on from Ezekiel Elliott, right,
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He's he's just not that guy anymore. He hasn't been
that guy for a while. But if you really want
to talk about a guy that you want to blame
for the Cowboys the last three years. Right, Dad gets
all the blame because he's the quarterback. But it's not
my fault that you And when I say you, I
mean you, Lieutenant Weinberg, I mean you. In the media
and fans want to talk about Dak like he's Tom
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Brady or Patrick Mahomes when he never has been. So
you can't tell me Dak's that disappointing when he's been
a league average quarterback and a couple of years he's
been a little bit better. He had the one really
really good year, and he had one year that was
that was really good, and he had okay, he had
a really good year and he had a great year,
and another years are about the same. Right, that's Derek Carr. Right,
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So it's like you're blaming Derek Carr for everything wrong
with the Raiders. Let's blame Dak. It's no Dac has
showed you from the beginning this is who I am.
He has never made you believe he is somebody other
than what he is. It's not my fault. The Cowboys
wanted to give him forty five million dollars a year.
It's not my fault. People talk about him in the
media like he's a top three quarterback that always disappoints.
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Not my fault, not who he is. But you want
to talk about a guy that you can put offensive
blame on, that's Ezekiel Elliott. Because this is a guy
who came into the league and he was great. This
he was unbelieved. He came in like a rookie running back.
It's like, oh my god, we haven't seen a rookie
running back like that in a long time. He comes
in as a rookie, he runs for sixteen hundred yards.
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Remembering that two thousand and sixteen season, it was Doc
and Zeke and who's more important? Boy? Look at Dac
as a rookie. They got lucky, and but it's really
Zeke and the Cowboys offensive line. I mean, this was
Ezekiel Elliott's team. He was the best running back. And
think this guy is gonna be unbelievable. Look at what
he's gonna be able to do. And what happened. He
had a great year sixteen hundred yards in fifteen touchdowns
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as a rookie. Then he played in less games, didn't
have his grade a year in twenty seventeen, had a
really good year in nineteen. But what happened in he
got paid. He got paid very early in twenty nineteen,
and that was the last elite year that he had.
That was it. He has been a different running back
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for the past three years. He he you know what
he reminds me of. Remember when Chris Johnson got paid
by the Titans and suddenly he was running into the
line of scrimmage with two arms on the ball and
falling down, and it was what is It's like he stopped.
It's like he stopped trying, like I'm done. I got paid.
I'm never getting paid again, so I'm not I I
don't want to get hurt anymore. So it's gonna run
into the line of scrimmage and fall down. When Chris
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Johnson was such an unbelievable every play, you had to
know where he was or he was gonna take it
to the house. He got paid, he ran into the
line of scrimmage and fell down. Zeke turned into that guy,
all right, he's at He had his last The only
reason he ran for a thousand yards last year because
there was an extra game. His yards per carry is
down a full half yard. Right, He's had the touchdowns
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because well, we'll give him the ball in the one
yard line to put in. Okay, but still he's really disappointed.
Its average per yards per carry this year was down
to three point eight, right, and you say, well, okay,
maybe something's wrong with the Cowboys. Tony Pollard was able
to have a big season. Tony Pollard became the number
one running back with the Cowboys. That he got hurt
and now he's out. And it's awful for Dallas because
he was so good and he was the answer to
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their to their woes on offense this year. But Tony
Pollard had a really good year. So you can't tell
me all what the team blocks for Tony Pollard, but
they don't block for Ezekiel Elliott. I mean, call on
the guy average five yards to carry this year, Elliott
was under four yards to carry um he ran for
He ran for a thousand yards with a hundred and
ninety three touches, didn't even touch the ball two hundred times.
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Tony Pollard was this good. So, yeah, you want to
talk about a guy that's disappointed if you have been
able to run this offense the last three years with
Ezekiel Elliott, a guy who was actually tried and not
just decided I got paid, now I'm done. Yeah, I
guess what things would have been different of the Dallas
Cowboys because I know he was great because he was
great for three years and then he got paid and
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then he stopped being great. So if you want to
blame somebody on the Cowboys for why haven't we achieved,
forget about Dak. Dak showed you who he was. Doak
was never great. Dak was always pumped up as great.
Ezekielly was great, great for three years and then suddenly
he just stopped. So that's really a guy. If you
want to look at who was holding our offense back,
that's the guy to look at. Yeah, I mean above
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average certainly for Dak. I don't I don't put him
as just a guy. I don't think he's a jag.
I think he's better than that. But he certainly was
a guy. When it came time for contracts, the best
argument anybody had was he's the next man up, not
that he'd done anything to deserve uh that contract, and
to make you believe that he was going to be
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a world beater thereafter last year, dred yards thirty seven
touchdowns and ten picks fantastic another huge year UH back
in nineteen. He had obviously a career best with his
dred yards and another thirty touchdown season, but Layton games decisions, uh,
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and look, it's a it was an imperfect roster. So
you can also to some degree that gets not a pass.
But he gets off the hook a little bit because
beyond Ceedee Lamb and Dalton Schultze, he really didn't have
a whole lot to work within the past game. I
guess Pollard a bit, and the fact that Elliott was
still a pretty good pass blocker but the offensive line
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not the same shows that Pollard was the better, more
explosive back. Now, doesn't it lends more credence to that
are that argument? But it's an easy fall guy that
Ezekiel and I don't know that I equated necessarily to
getting paid, but did miss time. I had a couple
of injuries. We know we had a knee issue that
bothered him last year. Still got to a thousand yards
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on the year and and has been a pretty good
vulture in and around the goal line, except when they
needed him to catch one UH in their playoff loss.
Too soon, wait, way too soon, guys, are throwing come
On Harmon to Cowboys. Fans are now taking their radios
and throwing them out the window, just like they did
with their TVs after the game. After you said that
that's all right, come to come to the Mike Harmon
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Dallas Cowboy themed rage room. Coming to an empty mall
location near to you. Me, me and the Halloween stores
are gonna be fighting for your business. Nope, that's not happening.
The guys are gonna be just like the guy saying
Jerry Jones, Joe's me a TV. He's gonna say, Mike Harmon,
owes me your radio show to where it's something straight
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out of a Halloween Horror Nights. You smash something, Hey,
there's fake blood, you know it's It's the kind of
thing though with with the Cowboys. It also just lends
itself back to the expectation that you are wearing the
Dallas Cowboys star in the uniform, So suddenly your value
is X plus whatever percentage better than you really are
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because the expectations are there, and any achievements are going
to be magnified that much more, which is why losing
a game against you know, a superior team that you
did a good job of living it. It's limiting it
to the Robbie Gold brilliance. Um gets kind of pushed
off to the side because no, it's you failed. Now
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you got beaten by a better team. Uh, it's easier
to just now bash Dak. But yeah, Zeke Elliott, it'll
look good in a Cardinals uniform. Like Emmett Smith before him.
I mean this, He actually said today, Hey, I would
take a pay cut to stay. It's too late, man,
that's too late. It's it's too late for you. They
gotta be done. This is they They paid him because
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he was really good for those years and Jerry and
Jerry Jones just had a blind spot for We drafted
him and he's great, and it's validation for me as
an owner and the Cowboys organization. That's why Jerry Jones pays.
He pays, He pays him because these are players that
became great with the Cowboys and I'm validating that. Whether
it's bad good business or not. He decided to do it,
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and so you Zeke held out and held and so
oh no, we gotta go pay him. Oh, Jerry, Jerry,
you don't pay running backs like that anymore. Nobody does.
But let's give them money. And look what happened. Now
you have all that money tied up in Zeke. You
had to give him the ball because this is what
has held the Cowboys back, because when you give Zeke
that kind of cash, you have to give him the football.
And what's better if they gave the ball to Tony
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Pollard the last couple of years of Ezekiel Elliott. Give
the ball more to Tony Pollard. But can't because you
gave Zeke all that money and you don't have more
money to pay for another position you might need a
guy at because you're paying Ezekiel Elliott fourteen million dollars
a year. That's a double whammy of of what's stopping
the Cowboys from being great. Do you want to blame
a guy? Elliot's the guy to blame. Well, you lose
that contract, it's another offensive lineman or a wide receiver,
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This is a round show with with my best friend
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Big goings on in the NBA tonight, joining us now
to break it all down. Longtime friend of the show.
You can follow him on Twitter at Mark g Underscore Medina.
That's at Mark Underscore Medina. Mark NBA writer for NBA
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dot Com Insider, covered the Warriors, the Lakers, and now
he's got a big column on NBA dot com tomorrow,
ten thousand words on how he thought that Nick should
have had five all star starters in the game and
they didn't get any. Mark, welcome inside. Good shouting with you, sir.
I submitted the column, but it got spiked. I don't
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know what happened. Do you mean Spike Lea did something
to it? Or do you mean it? Nobody told me.
I can neither confirm nor deny. I also cannot confirm
nor did I if I was denied entered MSG because
of this facial recognition technology. Wait a minute, that's Mark Mdina.
He wrote that critical column about me back in I
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bowed my band Without getting into details, if one NBA
player could ban you for life from an arena, who
would it be? That's pretty good. I would say probably
D'Angelo Russell. Yeah, when he was on the Lakers, we
had some back and forth moments, for sure. It was
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fun times. You had that answer ready, that was in
your holster, man, it was ready to go. I I
knew from the first jump. I don't I've never had
many problems of players, But I mean, everything's fine now
with what under the brudge. But we definitely had our
back and forth moments during his short lived time in
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the Lakers. Boy, all right, well look, let's let's let's
talk about the All Stars here for a second. We
find out who the starters are. You you know you
put up on Twitter. Hey, we're gonna talk about some snubs.
I mean, was there a snub outside of Jalen Brunson
and Julius Randall. I mean that was quite a loaded
question there. Look, I didn't vote for Jalen Brunson, but
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I'm not here to kick a Knicks fan while he's down.
I think he's going to get in his reserve. He's
very deserving. I mean, he's uh, he's lived up to
the expectations and beyond as far as his time in
New York, but as far as the starter snubs, I mean, look,
I had some different players. I chose Joe Embiad for example,
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in the front court in the East, I didn't have
I didn't have Kyrie Irving as a backcourt. I had
Jalen Brown. But I think that they're they're interchangeable. And
when guy, you know, when people complain, oh this guy
got snubbed, this guy got snubbed, you have to answer
the question, Okay, who do you replace that player with?
And Joel Embiid, I don't think it's disrespectful to him
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if you say, you know what, I chose Kevin Durant instead, right,
or I think Jalen Brown should have gotten All Star. Uh,
it's disrespectful to say Kyrie got in and said, Okay,
maybe that that's an exception. Kyrie doesn't deserve it because
he had this nonsense with the suspension. But generally speaking,
usually when you play that game, you realize, you know what,
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it really wasn't much of a snub. But the reason
why I chose Embiid, Look, I'm I had an out.
Kevin Durant still hurts so I don't think he'll be
available anyway. Um And in the case of you know,
Jalen Brown for Kyrie, I think that Jalen's you know,
he's on taste of post career highs. The Celtics are
the number one seven. The reason, the reason why the
Death's got off to such a poor start, a lot
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of it had to do with Kyrie, But you know,
he does deserve credit for his stellar play post suspension,
and you know you have to credit him for his
role for the Nets getting back into the swing of things.
So does mouthpiece throwing become an All Star weekend event?
I think it's already started. Like I already saw some
of the tweets about like, oh this guy got snubbed
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and we need to go positional list. I do agree.
I think it is better for the NBA to, instead
of voting starters to backcourt three front court, choose the
best five players. Um, you know, there is a danger
maybe in Joel embiads case, and all of a sudden,
you're playing with lineups that you know today's modern MBA
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would not do, where you're having like four big men
right on the on the same team. But I think
in like Jason Tatum's case, for example. Uh, when it
comes to the East, maybe it would have been more
understandable if all four of those front court players are
there and you just choose, you know, Donovan Mitchell or
Jalen Brown or Kyrie and that's a serviceable All Star team.
(18:56):
But I think where the snubs get into play is
the reserve herbs, right, because those are hard choices, and
ironically enough, when everyone cries foul about that, whether it's
players or coaches, for some reason, it's always bestowed on
the media. This guy got snubbed, but they ignored the
fine print that the coaches are the ones that vote
(19:16):
for the reserves. The starters are only the fans media players,
so you know, direct the ankst that the coaches on
the sideline for for those things. Well, we'll go and
and find our way courtside with the bullhorn and try
to make that happen. Mark reference the fun and excitement
in Golden State. Steph Curry wanted the shot, Jordan's Pool
(19:39):
took it, a Pool eventually gets the game winner. Uh,
is there any real friction there beyond you know, hey,
dream Draymond wanted to you know, fight him before the season.
But is that something that's becoming an issue for them? Well, look,
thankfully for the Warriors, they won the game, and uh
that heals a lot of wounds. I mean so much that, Uh,
you know, Jordan Pool is po spotted in the tunnel
(20:01):
and seemed Stuff curry and throwing his own mouth Jess
and Stuff got a good laugh out of it. But no,
I think that as as much as Stuff projects an
image of that day, he's a really good guy and
his leadership is more about positive reinforcement. Uh. He also
has an emotional side to him that I think is warranted,
(20:22):
and he has a lot of high expectations. So I
don't think that his reaction with throwing the mouth piece
across the court was just about Jordan Pool hoisting up
a wrong three with twelve seconds on the shot clock
when they have only a one possession lead. Um. This
(20:43):
is kind of a larger picture, where you know, from
as much as we've seen Jordan Pool grow, we also
see that he's still a young player learning how to
play the right way. Um. And so I think that
that will be interesting moving forward. I think the Warriors
have the ingredients to make this a learning moment. I
mean so much that they were able to make it
(21:03):
a learning moment within that game specifically, but there's also
a recipe that it doesn't go that way, and it's
kind of symbolic of a larger thing of how do
the Warriors navigate the season of trying to have both
things at once. We know on the All Stars and
these young players and so farn't really haven't penned much
because they're twenty four and twenty four. You know that
(21:25):
that's the thing going forward, is that there's a lot
of teams that are sitting at the half full half empty? Right?
Can the Warriors make a move the deadline to to
get up the standings a bit? Can the Lakers make
another movie? Is there something there for them? Is there
something there for the Grizzlies to get them up over
the Nuggets? Right? Is there something that the Sixers need
to be able to clearly be the best team in
the East. And you know, you think about all these
(21:47):
movies to be made at the deadline, all these teams
we look for something, Marc, is there going to be
anything available to deadline? It's not like there's a lot
of big names and a that's gonna We're hearing could
be available that could really change the fortunes. I don't
know that It's not just a lot of hey, here's
some death pieces that are going to change locations, and
hoping that maybe you find the right chemistry off the
(22:07):
bench and that can do something for you. Yeah. I
mean usually major trade deadline deals requires one scenario, one
or two scenarios. One of the scenarios is a star
player makes it clear that he wants out and he has,
you know, either the last season on his deal or
another season his deal before expires, and the teams like, hey,
(22:27):
we may as well cash him in for something. The
other scenario is, you know, teams outright uh, stripping down
the roster so they can get Victor Webban Webban Yana
Yama for example. Maybe it happens with some of these
teams where hey, they're gonna unload a bunch of young
players and draft picks to clear the decks. Were not
(22:49):
young players, were more draft picks and veterans. But I
just don't see, you know, the market for that star
player like Damian Liward isn't leaving Portland, Bradley Beale isn't
leaving Portland. We won your time and time again, when
are is the devotion between both sides gonna break? And
it just it isn't happening. And so I think for
(23:12):
the Lakers and the Warriors, no doubt they're going to
canvass on the landscape. But I think in the Warriors case,
I don't think they're of the mind of egg not
only not getting rid of their all stars, but I
think there is an investment with the young players. Um
with the Lakers. I think everything outside of Lebron James,
I mean, he couldn't even trade Lebron they wanted to,
but everything outside of Lebron and a D is on
(23:33):
the table. The problem is teams don't want Russell Westbrook
and the rest of their assets aren't that attractive, and
the Lakers don't want to give up their two first
round picks unless this is a movie that puts them
into championship contention. Rob Polinka was saying the other day
after gaining really Achi Mora for Kendrick Nunn in three
second round picks from Washington, they said, we'll make a move, uh,
(23:56):
if if it improves the championship odds. But we're we're
not believers of incremental change here. So it has to
be one or the other. So when you when you
connect all these thoughts here, the Lakers don't have other
assets to make that happen. So I think if they
do any moves, it's going to be on the margins.
It's gonna involve, you know, either Patrick Beverley and or
(24:17):
Lonnie Walker, the fourth expiring contract and maybe some more
second round picks and that's it. But you know what
that's gonna get you, that are really at you, mora,
Maybe a decent player can fulfill some positional needs, but
doesn't fundamentally change the team's long term fortunes now on
the trade trade market as a whole. We were certainly
(24:37):
all watching bit uh in the interim. It's the fun
and exciting world of Anthony Davis. What's your overall underset?
And how many games these guys play together the rest
of the year. Well, it's a good question. I mean
with Anthony Davis, who does never know? I mean his
first game back against Antoni, who already set off a
scare where you know that Collins invaded his landing space.
(24:58):
He rolled his right ankle, he's grabbing it. Everyone's gasping.
I mean, Darvin Ham said he almost fainted and then
he gets up and he's fine. You know, I think,
to be fair to Anthony Davis and the Lakers, they've
been very diligent about his rehab process. He saw multiple
doctors before determining he didn't need surgery. Um, you know,
(25:20):
he went through UH you know, the rigorous physical training
and weight bearing exercises before doing individual workouts and you know,
team contact practices this past week. But because of Anthony
Davis's injury history and durability, I can't help but wonder
will we see more of this? But I think to
(25:40):
be fair day d I think that this is his
worst injury of the season, and moving forward, it's gonna
be you know, maybe one game here, a few games there.
He's already on a minute restriction coming off the bench.
And when I asked Darvin Ham what's his next expectation
on how long that's gonna be, he projected for the
next week or so, and that coincides with the Lakers
(26:02):
going on the road, So yeah, he's not playing every
single game. But I think it's gonna have to do
with more of load management and minor UH injuries as
opposed to this other major ailment. That comes up like
what happened with his right foot earlier this season. He's
on Twitter at Mark g Underscore Medina. That's at Mark
g Underscore Medina. Check out his latest on NBA dot com.
(26:26):
And he will be co writing the D'Angelo Russell biography
that's coming out next year. Uh so I'll look forward
to that. Do you have a title for it yet? Mark?
Should I just say d Loading? That's his nickname, right,
d Loading with Mark Medina, and it'll be like a
big circle with the red across three your face. There
(26:46):
you go, you know what, that would be great art,
It might sell well. I think a better play here
is Hey, I'm mean, I'm not being I'm not trolling
here our site. My colleague Sean pal He did a
very good piece the other day about why Jalen Brunson
deserves to be an All Star. Um, I think it's
gonna be the first nixed All Star since Clyde fraser
(27:07):
Us or Mark Jackson. There's only been three Nick point
guards that have been All Stars in the organization's history.
But you know what, that right here's definitely never coming
on the show. Uh Oh, I love that. I'm digging that. Hey,
Jalen Brunson m v P. It's all I'm gonna say,
(27:28):
Mark as always, buddy, thank you so much. We'll talk
to you next week. Enjoy the games. It sounds like
a plan. We'll talk Bronson next week, I promise. All Right,
there we go. Br Brunson spoken into existence and it
broke the man down. Yeah. Look, he's got to he's
got to make the All Star team. He hasked to,
he's had, he's had that kind of a big year
(27:48):
to impact people wanted to say in the off season.
You know you're paying twenty five million for a guy
who's gonna transform your team to Congratulations, Jalen Brunson MVP
All Star first, m v P, next, NBA title third,
It's just going in order like that, just like the
jetson Aaron Rodgers. Every day is something new, every day
(28:08):
is something new. For Jalen Brunson, every day something new.
Let's if he's on the odds while we talked to Steve,
all right, now we will find out what's trending in
the wide world of sports, which includes a big night
from Jalen Brunson in the Knicks victory of the year,
maybe the greatest NBA game in the history of the
sport as they beat the Celtics. But be sure to
(28:30):
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(28:52):
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Really weird today, right, really weird development involving Sean Payton,
who was everybody's choice to be there next head coach
in the NFL. If you got an opening, Sean Payton
was your guy. Right now, we're so excited to get
(29:13):
Sean Payton. We'll give up whatever you want, whatever the
Saints Wanton compensation, we'll give it up. We want him.
Houston wants him, Denver, Arizona, maybe Indianapolis. Now Carolina talked
to him across Carolina off the list. They hired Frank
Reich earlier today. We talked about this last night and
then congratulations, it got a bigger deal today. Surprise when
(29:33):
We mentioned it last night. It show. You know, what
could I say? We provide content? Uh, it seems like
the Sean Payton train has sort of, I don't want
to say, left the station. But you can't really you
can't really tell where it's going right now. I feel
like all the momentum behind him becoming a head coach
somewhere this year in the NFL is now gone. And
(29:56):
and you look at what happened today. A tweet by
Mark Maski, who was an NFL reporter for the Watchington Post,
put out a tweet earlier today that um Peyton's interview
with the Broncos there was an issue because while Peyton
liked the idea of coaching Russell Wilson and having that defense,
he thought there could be a potential power struggle with
a member of the ownership group. Now Sean Payton quote
(30:17):
tweeted this and said zero truth to this. We had
a great visit and Broncos ownership was fantastic. So something
is going on right now where where I mean none
of this is one side is completely lying, the other
one is completely talented. You know something is going on
here and it's It really baffles me that someone who
a month ago was will move heaven and Earth to
(30:39):
get this guy. There's no surefire guy to higher than
Sean Payton. Every quarterback who has played for Sean Payton
has been great, whether it's for your entire career like
Drew Brees, or for five minutes like Teddy Bridgewater, or
for three minutes like Taysom Hill. Everybody he's had has
been really, really good. And now suddenly he not gonna
(31:00):
get a gig, Mike. And I'll tell you what I'm
looking at this. I mean, he's gonna be back in
the broadcast booth this year. He's gonna go through this
whole cycle thinking, oh, maybe the Cowboys that want me,
maybe it's the Dolphins, maybe it's somebody else, and he's
gonna wind up saying, uh, I don't like any of
these openings. And I would just be jumping back in
to jump back in, because is he really gonna jump
(31:22):
back into Arizona who you don't know at all, what
your situations with your quarterback or with Houston, where you're
building it from the ground up because you have absolutely nothing.
I think Sean Payton's gonna wind up being back in
the broadcast booth and say, Okay, we'll try it again
next year. His star has fallen so much and in
this cycle where just like I said, and nothing's really happened.
(31:43):
It's just been a month ago. Was we gotta get
Sean Payton and now it's um, nobody's gonna wind up
getting Sean Payton. That's kind of where we're at. Yeah.
I think with some of it, it becomes the all right,
what's the price you're you're asking uh in compensation that
needs to go back to New Orleans to make this
thing happen. In the case of Miami, they don't have
first round pick because you know they were talking to
(32:05):
Sean Payton on a boat, he and Tom and Tom
Brady last year, which still doesn't make sense to me.
Rich people can't get together and commiserate on a boat
without it being seen as nefarious. Did they have it bugged?
I don't know. But suddenly you're back in Wolf of
Wall Street, Yeah, with somebody off the side of the boat.
Yell and here's some fun bucks. Hey, here's some fun bucks.
That's what I call him. Here you go, Kyle Chandler's
(32:27):
coming to visit you, and you realize that you're in
a little bit of trouble right here because coach Eric
Taylor's coming to visit me. Hey, doesn't that guy work
for the NFL? That's walking on the boat. That's the
guy serving us the shrimp cocktail? Isn't it Goodell's right
hand man? What's going on here? So they had he
had that situation Denver. Look, he took the twitter, as
(32:49):
you said, to refute that report. But also, you know,
we we are looking at a situation where we'd heard
about you know, maybe maybe George Payton he's gotta do
is personnel whatever, But that the head coach, remember that
report that it was going to be more work with
the owners that necessarily through the football execs as middleman,
(33:11):
which is kind of curious in terms of the structuring
if you're bringing in somewhat of Peyton silk, So I
can see whether maybe that doesn't work. Arizona evidently met
with them for a good chunk of the day. So
you've got that still on the radar. Does does is
he intrigued enough by Kyler Murray to wait it out
and try to build around maybe what full season working
(33:32):
with DeAndre Hopkins. Maybe there's there's enough there that it
intrigues you to a degree. But you mentioned Houston, and
we always said on the show, going back to the
beginning of the Spinning Carousel, it was cowboys probably in
the two spots, Dolphins sitting down there, depending on what
(33:54):
Ross wants to do. But it was all about the
Chargers and everything else just seemed like a pipe dream
and enough for fodder, wishing and hoping that was your
dream date in the coaching line, that he'd give you
the rose. I got TV all over the place. I
got rose. I'm so exciting shows us. Will you? Will
(34:17):
you take this journey with me to the NFL playoffs
and beyond excuse me and the big music swells, everybody
gets excited. Oh we show clips of what's coming outremony.
Oh sure, yeah, that's outstanding. Uh. The Jason Smiths with
Mike Carmon Live the tirect dot Com Studios. The one
(34:38):
thing about Peyton I will tell you is that the
Saints they got to back off their first round picking more.
He's not coaching for you and ever again, just get
what you get. Your scaring teams off. You don't want
to scare teams off. You got you gotta be able
to move on you get. If you get a second
and third or something else, or just one first, you
get what you get. You can't you can't hold this
(34:59):
process up. It would be cool if he could do
a man into the Royal Rumble thing, come back to
the Saints and bring Brady with him. My god, hey
speaking to bring somebody with him. Who's Nathaniel Hackett going
to bring to the Jets with him? Aaron Rodgers. Nobody
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