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The Micah Parsons negotiations could just be a killer for Jerry Jones: Forget about his on-field decisions, but this could be the moment where we realize the business aspect of the NFL has passed him by...

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That's apparently what happened to Devin Williams. Yeah, it's a
final oh boy. So thanks to John Paul Morosi joining
us a few moments ago, we get to that big

(01:11):
story in the NFL on the second but uh, the
Yankees lose again to nothing. Devin Williams comes in the
eighth inning, gives up two runs, and the Yankees lose,
and it is just an absolute free fall for them.
I'm telling you, Aaron Boone is not gonna make it
out of August. If the Yankees fall two three games
out of the wildcard. Hopefully Geeta will come in maybe,

(01:33):
but Aaron Boone won't make it because it's the only
thing the Yankees can do to not get this season
to continue to spiral off the rails. But Devin Williams
and I saw this stat tonight, which is incredible and
not a Sarah Langstadt just I don't know, maybe Sarah
Lang's at this name. Maybe, But Devin Williams has now
given up as many earned runs this season twenty six,

(01:56):
as he's given up the three years previously. Wow oh,
from twenty twenty two to twenty twenty four, he gave
up twenty six earned runs. Is one of the best clothes,
one of the best relievers in baseball this year twenty
six runs he has given up. Pete Alonso apparently broke
him in the playoff series last year with that three

(02:17):
run homer in the ninth inning of the deciding game three. Well,
Pete Alonzo killed Devin Williams.

Speaker 3 (02:22):
But what's the old saying, Either pressure makes diamonds or
it breaks you wo and Devin Williams becoming a part
of the pinstripe laden Yankees, perhaps New York. Perhaps he's
gotta put the fish wraps away, figure out a way
to keep.

Speaker 1 (02:39):
The noise up.

Speaker 3 (02:40):
I don't know how much of a social media presence
he has, or if he's got people around him that
are telling him or what he's hearing, or how you
clear the mechanism. Go back to that for love of
the game example, you gave a little bit earlier. Sure
that you know, you've gotta figure out how to cancel
that because right now it's an absolute freefall for where
they're at. I know there was a great country song

(03:01):
that was if we make it through December. I don't
think there's an if we make it through August.

Speaker 1 (03:05):
Oh, there probably is. There's gotta be an there's gotta
be a country song for every occasion. Come on, what
what is there not a country song an occasion?

Speaker 3 (03:12):
I'm just saying I'm usually sky diving Rocky.

Speaker 1 (03:17):
Matt and co. And there's one there, there, there's there's
a there's a there's a country music song for everything.

Speaker 3 (03:22):
He's one of his best friends is Pitbull.

Speaker 1 (03:24):
That has to be thinking about that for a second. Okay,
I did not know that.

Speaker 3 (03:27):
Mister Worldwide and Tim McGrath.

Speaker 1 (03:31):
But but don't let this get that. Pete Alonzo killed Devin,
like just killed Carl Alonzo killed Devin Williams. I mean
he is not. I mean this has been just an
absolute free fall for the Yanks.

Speaker 3 (03:44):
It's just been an unbelievable run. Right, for all the
injuries that they sustained, even early in the season, all right,
you're not gonna have Garrett Cole. They survived, They pushed forward.
Ro Don was great for them. Louise Hill goes to
the tow I l they they survived.

Speaker 1 (04:00):
They move on.

Speaker 3 (04:00):
They find other other guys to pick up Innings U
and Boone and whatever brain trust he's got. Uh, they
keep rolling. Obviously, Aaron Judge hitting near four hundred for
a good chunk of the first two months of the
season did not hurt.

Speaker 1 (04:14):
Well.

Speaker 3 (04:14):
Then he gets hurt and it all goes to hell.
All right, Stanton's back, gold Schmidt and he are hitting
a little bit. Your fielding issues are never going away.
So it was always gonna be can you outslug your problems?
But now you're just in hell.

Speaker 1 (04:28):
I mean it's it's like, you know, I see Little
league teams that are better fundamentally than the Yankees. It's
like they don't practice. No.

Speaker 3 (04:35):
Well, but that's the thing. You only get so many
days off.

Speaker 1 (04:38):
Man. It's like the Yankee strategy is, ah, Judge will
hit a home run, we'll figure it out. Okay, great,
that's great. Yeah, that's my managerial strategy.

Speaker 3 (04:45):
That's trying to go the old gas house guerrillas against
bugs money.

Speaker 1 (04:49):
Yeah, we'll hit a home run. It'll be fine. It'll
be fine, and people will be on base. It's all good.
We'll get a boop in a blast and fine, it's fine.
A bloop and a blast, it's fine. It's fine. Uh. Meanwhile,
what is not fine is the situation cunning out no
is yes, that we'll get back into because the game
is just anything.

Speaker 4 (05:07):
Now.

Speaker 1 (05:08):
There was almost the third sex toy thrown on the
court in the w NBA game in the past ten
The suspects at large guys.

Speaker 3 (05:15):
Would you would you want to know? There's also video
evidence that there was almost a.

Speaker 1 (05:21):
Fourth, almost a fourth with there's video evidence there was
almost a fourth and it was at someone's feet. Did
somebody get sacked and as they were going ready to
throw it? We never answered my question either, what's your question?
Not doing that? She's not doing where was she? She's hurt,
she's hurt. She's not gonna risk something she's hurt from

(05:41):
throwing that.

Speaker 4 (05:42):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (05:46):
Uh, there's video evidence that there was a four. There's
one on the ground. There was one on on the ground,
so potentially there could have been a double wow sex
toy wow. And say the way it was thrown are
like that it was Kelsey plump, but it's not because
she was playing in the game. She had a great
kick to knock that thing out of the way. Okay,
he's just great, just sweeping it off.

Speaker 3 (06:11):
Remember the guy that threw the javelin in Revenge of
the Nerds.

Speaker 1 (06:15):
Oh Lamar Latrell. Yeah, Lamar's limp wristed throwing style allowed
that ball to allow the javelin to just travel even
further than expected. Latrell Lamar Lamar la Treell right over here,
that's way. Oh sure he was in Space Camp too.
Oh yeah, he's in a bunch of movies in the eighties.
Lamar Latrell, good run. Do you think those things are
flying off the shelf now that they're green? They're using

(06:36):
the same they're not even changing the colors. It's like
it's gonna be green. We're gonna do a green well
to So that's the question.

Speaker 3 (06:43):
I mean, evidently quick Marsh market research and go in
the Dark gets to the sixty two percent of the market.

Speaker 1 (06:49):
Is green? Really? Yeah? Like green man, green man, I'm
green man.

Speaker 3 (06:53):
Now when you get into the vast array. Now, now
we talk about rainbow colors and all sorts of other stuff.

Speaker 1 (06:58):
All right, but yeah, Jason, you're a collector. What model
is this? You just the collector?

Speaker 3 (07:07):
He eventually called him Benicio del Toora, the collector. He's
the collector, Yes, standing up and clapping Yes.

Speaker 1 (07:14):
So I am sure we will get postgame reaction from
Sophie Cunningham and Kelsey Plumb after this again, third time
in the last ten days. I really I just can't
get over the lack of respect that fans would have
where knowing that a guy just got arrested and one
player just said, hey, don't throw it at us on
the court. Someone could get hurt that someone said, screw it.

(07:36):
I don't care if a guy got arrested and I'm
gonna throw it potentially at you. Because Sophie Cunningham I
had to move out of the way, and maybe she
got great. I don't know. It's it's hard to tell.
We got to hear how it sounded. I don't know,
we do what do you want to hear? The splot
on the floor?

Speaker 5 (07:50):
Come on, oh, look out, something just came into the floor,
an object just as the free throw was being.

Speaker 1 (08:03):
Made.

Speaker 2 (08:06):
You look like that hit a player too.

Speaker 1 (08:12):
You can hear the booming CBS on the call right there.
And luckily Sophie Cunningham was okay. She left, you know,
tried to laugh going off the court talking to some
other players. Okay, I mean, look, I really I can't
you know. Kelsey Plumb normally she she does not hold
back at the end of games when she talks. I
can't wait to hear what Kelsey Plumb and Sophie Cunningham
have to say after that. It was an absolute rocket.

Speaker 3 (08:32):
It was a one timer, and she she launched that
thing off.

Speaker 1 (08:35):
Like I'm looking at it on video, I'm like, I'm going,
I can't even see it flight. It's like it's hitting
the court. Where is it all of a sudden she's
skipping because you know, after the made free throw, everybody's
moving and getting positioned for the inbound and it's hard
to see all of a sudden it just boom. It's
just there and you see Sophie Cunningham kind.

Speaker 3 (08:50):
Of seeah, the way her leg kind of comes up,
like whether it bounced off the court and hit her
or hit her directly, not quite sure, but yeah, it's.

Speaker 1 (09:00):
And it's just good. Just a I'm really I am stunned.
Not that we don't see things like this before, right,
Not that we haven't, because you see, fans want to
run on the field at a game, Fans want to
throw stuff on the field. We see it. We saw
it last year in the playoffs, right when a fan
threw a you know, a cup of ice on the floor.
We see it. It bills games where it happens. But this

(09:22):
is one of those where it's happened.

Speaker 5 (09:24):
Now.

Speaker 1 (09:25):
It's a trend. Like like I said, like it's one
of those TikTok trends where oh you see where people
are doing this now, it's great. Why are they doing it?
Why are they having fights and lunch rooms all the time?
All across guy schools are doing it now. But you
see this and not it, but knowing that, hey, things
could happen to you and a player said, hey, don't
do it hurt and no, still I'm gonna throw it.
I could throw it at you and I don't care

(09:45):
if somebody else got arrested like that. That just blows
me away, not that it happens, but now it feels like, yeah,
I don't care, I don't I don't care about what
you said, or I don't care about what's going on.
I'm still gonna do it.

Speaker 3 (09:57):
Yeah, it's like trying to make it a comedy bit.
Obviously a lot of engagement, and there's been plenty of
this spread across the inn internet for the last ten
plus days. Because remember it all started with a wig
falling off and someone running back into the locker room
like that proceeded this now uh epidemic.

Speaker 1 (10:17):
Well that's not where it all started. It started at
a factory somewhere.

Speaker 3 (10:20):
That's amount of time and long long time ago and
depending on what you the.

Speaker 1 (10:27):
History of this object and to when it hit the
w NBA court, I mean machine made.

Speaker 3 (10:31):
Do we get a jaunty little music bed behind it too?
While we're at it, when somebody miss a cartoon video
of think somebody made it on Pinterest and put it
out there.

Speaker 1 (10:40):
Well, I mean it's twenty twenty five.

Speaker 3 (10:42):
Hey man, there's there's you can you can work to
your own that could have been made at Arts and
Crafts there it could have been.

Speaker 1 (10:49):
It's just and we're still using the same color save
What want you to say it? Why would you change it? No?

Speaker 3 (10:55):
No, no, it's part of that's part of the bit
at this Yeah, and it's got it. It's gotta be green.
But we you know, the w NBA as a whole,
what have we been talking about, Caitlyn Clark being hurt,
number of the top players being hurt and missing time? Uh,
some great games, some blowouts, right, there's obviously have and
have nots, and franchises selling for big amounts of money. Uh,

(11:15):
and the CBA negotiations uh and the battle thereof. So
then we get the neon green sex choice.

Speaker 1 (11:25):
I mean, like Kelsey Plumb is a Mustier press conference
following the game tonight, like Kel's cause she doesn't show.
She's the most entertaining player, probably almost entertaining player in
the w because she she'll say whatever is on her mind,
whether it's fouls or anything else, and whether it's Hey,
Caitlyn Clark's entire team wasn't here. We decided to wear
these T shirts for the All Star game. Whoa, whoaa, yeah,

(11:46):
I don't care nobody from Team Clark was there. It
needs to be said. Whoa, I really I can't wait
to see what she's got to say. Oh, it just
so happens.

Speaker 3 (11:53):
Your two biggest personalities. Clark's the biggest player, right, She's
the biggest entity as as I think everybody, uh, if
they are willing to just pause for a second, recognize that.
But Plumb and Cunningham are You're most entertaining and engaging people,
and certainly Sophie Cunningham the last month or two has
made more deals. We talked about the rBST thing. We

(12:16):
talk about the effort by the women of wrestling, including
Genie Boss to try to get her on board there,
and Kelsey Plumb is has I mean, she's shown up
a happy Gilmore Too spoiler alert.

Speaker 1 (12:26):
Yeah yeah, Happy Gilmore Too not getting not getting great reviews.

Speaker 3 (12:31):
Has any Adam Sandler movie outside of Uncut Gems really
ever gotten a great review.

Speaker 1 (12:36):
I'm at the point where if there's any if there's
any cash grab to be whether it's coming to America
Too or Happy Gilmore two, where's a movie for so
long ago and it's gonna come out, but it's gonna
be streaming. Yeah, I'm never gonna watch it. Okay, I'm
never gonna.

Speaker 3 (12:51):
I'm just gonna say I enjoyed it, and I enjoyed
a bunch of pieces of it that maybe the rest
of the the world is.

Speaker 1 (13:00):
Don't need to say I know it's I know it's bad.
I don't need to say I know it's bad. You
watch a lot of bad television. I do, but I
pull the plug so early now. I pull the plug
so early on bad TV and movies like I'm done.
So what do you end the Jets games? After a minute?
I'm done. I watch when the quarterback brings the flag
onto the field, and then I turn it off because
I know that's good. Four snaps, Yeah, that's good, this
is good. No, I go before the snaps. Now I know,

(13:22):
I know better. I know better.

Speaker 3 (13:23):
I watch him run out, I see them go to
the commercial break. Carrie Underwood sings that I'm done.

Speaker 1 (13:30):
I'll just I'll just go to social media where I
see all the Jets people that I follow it. I
just wait for the oh no oh no oh nug up.
Something happened. Okay, great bad things man.

Speaker 4 (13:42):
All right, all.

Speaker 1 (13:43):
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Speaker 1 (14:50):
All right, five second running Man, Dance Party. You have
to be able to run now, he's got to run
in place, run by darn take it over.

Speaker 3 (14:58):
The show is Jason gets right there, Jason Smith Show
with me, Mike Cary, No.

Speaker 1 (15:02):
Thanks, pahg weight loss man. I can run more now,
I've not that I do, but I can run what
you could I could. I can run more. I'm your
poppy Tulo. The other day, Zoe and I were working
out at the y and we were on the treadmill
next to each other. And whenever we do treadmill, I walk,

(15:22):
you know, and she'll she'll walk run everything else. It's
not a walk meal. But we were doing a we
were doing a thing where we were seeing who could
walk or do their do their workout as we increase
the treadmill. Right, so I'm like two and a half
miles an hour. She's a two point seven. I go
to three, she's a three point two, she's a three
point five. And then you have to start running. And

(15:43):
I was like, oh great, now I gotta run. So
I'm like, okay, let me run. So I run and
I run for like a minute. But can I stop?
And I was like, okay, I'm stopping now, but not
because I.

Speaker 3 (15:55):
Felt like I was gonna die.

Speaker 1 (15:57):
I just stop running because I was done running. I
told you I hate and running. And you have one
or two donuts tied to the front.

Speaker 3 (16:03):
I thought he was gonna start playing COMA there donuts?

Speaker 1 (16:07):
Is that the sun? Like I cannot believe that I
could run for a minute like that and not and
and at the end like yeah, okay, I'm done running.
I'm like, okay, I'm good. I could have kept running,
but I decided not to because again because running is awful.
So but I could have kept running.

Speaker 3 (16:23):
You know what though, I mean it leads us to
this fortieth anniversary today, the.

Speaker 1 (16:27):
Release Nobody knows that. That's how much nobody knows.

Speaker 3 (16:30):
This song Running up those hills. Jason Smith look at
you full minute before you went Matt Damon and said
this is stupid.

Speaker 1 (16:39):
It was it was There's the thing was it was,
it is stupid. Running is stupid.

Speaker 3 (16:43):
I mean it's pretty important for the games that you know,
we cover anywhere on Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 1 (16:49):
And when when I told that story the other day,
I told that story the other day to somebody else
or in mixed company where it was like it was
it was me and Pam and Zoe and a couple
of her friends and a couple of our parents. I
was like, yeah, I ran because I asked me about
PhD and everything else, like yeah, and I tell myself,
but you know me, I I can't stand right. I'm
like Matt Choose. I'm at the end of air, I go,

(17:10):
this is stupid. Who would ever want to do this?
And Pandas looks at me and says, you know, you
think everybody has seen that movie and they haven't, well
they should, And I'm like it was good. It was
a big movie, was Affleck and Damon and Jason Babes
says yeah, but you know, but I see how people react.
Not as many people have seen that movie as you
think you can't like quote Shawshank, It's not that I'm

(17:32):
like yeah, but fine, whatever, like whatever, fine, rain on
my phone don't you go round, you go run, but
you go run there, I'll just run behind you or
after you something else.

Speaker 3 (17:46):
You run, you run, so you are all satellites around me. Okay,
And I like this movie.

Speaker 1 (17:55):
So if you think that Micah Parsons everything's to get solved,
he'd be back playing with the Cowboys sometime soon. Well
maybe not so much, because Jerry Jones did a plethora
would you say he did a plethora? He did a
plethora of interviews today at Cowboys camp about Micah Parsons
contract situation.

Speaker 3 (18:16):
I think they ran out of film on the one
he did with Jane Slater.

Speaker 1 (18:21):
Jane, I've been talking to you for about six minutes now,
kind of gotta stop. I'm like the Smith kid went
with running. I can only talk for so long. I
gotta take a break now. Remember Micah Parsons at odds
with the Cowboys because the Cowboys feel like they had
a deal because Parsons talked with Jerry Jones in March,
and then when his agent tried to follow up, the
Cowboys said, no, we have a deal. It's over. Micah

(18:42):
Parsons over the last few months has gotten upset. Put
out a statement last week saying I no longer want
to be here, and now it's thrown up in flux.
Normally it works like this for the Cowboys. Stars want
to get paid. Jerry Jones wins the meet and talks
about it, and at the end these guys all get money.

(19:03):
Jerry Jones never says anything bad about the player, talks
about the negotiation as part of this part of this.
But things have changed with Micah Parsons, which I told
you last week. If you stay out Michael Parsons, you
leave camp and make it untenable, you will get traded,
you will get paid. Someone's gonna give you all that
money you want, but you have to really stand up now.

Speaker 3 (19:22):
Or they go back and they pay him the money.

Speaker 1 (19:24):
Yeah, they could do, but clearly Jerry Jones is not
doing that because of this is some of the things
he said today at camp. He was asked straight out,
can you guarantee that Micah Parsons will be ready for
September fourth, the opener against the Eagles. Quote? No, absolutely not.
A big part of that is his decision. How would

(19:46):
I know that? He says he's urgent, but uh, Jerry
Jones is not talking about anything as far as Mike
is a great player. This negotiation will happen. Don't worry,
worry about it. It's been Jerry Jones playing defense and
telling you that the offer we had was out there,
and it doesn't seem like he has any interest in

(20:09):
getting back to the table and giving Micah Parsons more money.
Jerry did infer or imply today that maybe he guaranteed
Micah Parsons two hundred million dollars and that was But
I can't believe he guaranteed HM two hundred million dollars.
Micah Parsons is gonna say no because the best, the
best guys had signed the last month or so are
all getting thirty some odd million for three four years.

(20:30):
So I can't believe he's guaranteed two hundred million. He
would have said no, but uh. Jerry Jones never talks
bad about somebody he wants to sign. But he is
here and when he talked to Jane Slater today, this
is the best part is that when Jane Slater of
NFL Network asked Jerry Jones, what happened in negotiation? You

(20:51):
thought you had a deal. What went on? Jerry Jones
went on this tangent about how when I bought the Cowboys,
it was very easy, was a handshake, and I looked
him in the eye and we shook hands, and the
money worked itself out. It was a thirty second negotiation.

Speaker 3 (21:07):
Somal I worked out.

Speaker 1 (21:10):
That's how he talked about negotiating to buy the Dallas Cowboys,
and he kind of intimated it was the same thing
with Michah Parsons and that.

Speaker 3 (21:17):
This is the way he shut hands and we looked.

Speaker 1 (21:20):
Each other in the eye, and I thought we had
a deal. Like That's basically what Jerry Jones is implying
that Micah Parsons came in, we talked, we shook hands,
looked me in the eye. He didn't look me in
the eye. I would say, okay, you know not supposed
to look up. You know, certain things you look in
the eye. Certain things you don't, like the meds and
the gorgan. You don't do that because unless you coun
chop the head off and the snakes in the hair.

(21:40):
And Uma Thurman played that in the in the Percy
Jackson movie. By the way, I gave Percy Jackson a
two hundred million dollars that came in and all he
did was get rid of all the other gods in Olympus,
including dian Isis found out nobody likes the guy. But
he was on to say, yeah, looked you in, look
him in the eye, shook hands, and Jerry Jones is
thinking that was my deal. My word is stronger than oak.

(22:05):
Really having problem with that right now, mister Cushman that
your word is stronger than oak.

Speaker 3 (22:10):
But I think some of it goes to and as
he explained this to Jane Slater, and I could see
it from his point of view of as he described
the deal to buy the Cowboys, right, here's in principle,
now we get you know, a couple of details that
need to be ironed out, but in principle, we've got
this that he could have done the same thing with

(22:30):
contract negotiations for thirty years, but unfortunately you found the
guy where that was not going to be enough of Hey,
I passed this word on because Michael Parsons might have
left that meeting gone all right cool, and then never
really said a word to his agent. Right anybody, it's like, yeah,
I met with Jerry whatever, We'll figure it out as
we need to, and then you come back to it

(22:50):
months later, it's like, no, no, no, all the time
that the Cowboys are operating under this assumption or that
negotiations in the past, and we've talked about the rock
name part of the thing. We got into Nicki Minajhi
and Desbryance.

Speaker 1 (23:04):
It really got weird.

Speaker 3 (23:04):
You got to listen to the whole show, go back
and listen to yesterday's podcast. But the idea that for Jerry,
that you have these discussions with players and you get
into a range, and even Micah admitted in his long
missive right, the I'm leaving thing from Friday was the
idea of I'm going you know, we had uh before

(23:26):
the other guys were signed, there was there was some
kind of talk and this is where we're at, and
I was comfortable taking less than whatever. Well that's what
Jerry Jones is banking on, right, That was the conversation
you had. So whatever that range was, we don't know
what it is. Clearly it's not the two hundred million
or anything, you know, over over to that level, but
he seemingly thought they were within whatever it was a

(23:49):
million or two or three or whatever that would be,
so you'd be able to finish that off. And then
all of a sudden you come back and the agent
gets involved. Meanwhile, TJ. Watt's been paid. A bunch of
other folks across the league have been paid. Your tight
end got thirteen million dollars a year. Suddenly the price
poker you're looking around on. I mean, I might have

(24:12):
had an I like, we might have had some ballpark thing,
but we didn't sign anything, so nothing's binding and you
move on. Whereas in Jerry's world, all right, you at
least had the principal base of where you were going
and that it was just the devil in the details.
And now this gets to play out in public, and
Jane Slider even reminded him as well of when the
deals for CD and DAK got done. Those weren't until

(24:34):
the early September.

Speaker 1 (24:35):
Yeah, all of them that were then as well.

Speaker 4 (24:38):
You know.

Speaker 1 (24:38):
But you bring up an interesting point, because the thing
is is that with everybody, right, with everybody, when you
play a sport, when you manage, when you coach, when
you're a GM, when you're an owner, everybody gets the
point where the sport passes you buy and it could
be you can no longer relate to the players. The
players have changed too much and your way of doing

(25:02):
things is not as well received as it was, and
you know that it's over now. Generally this happens with coaches. Hey,
I coached this way, but now the new players come in,
new generations of players come in, and how you did
things earlier doesn't quite work the way it does now.
And you see it with general managers the way they
do business. And this is a big deal. Micah Parsons

(25:24):
is a big deal for Jerry Jones because this is
the negotiation that it feels like he bid off more
than he could chew. That it worked out for Dak,
and it worked out for Ezekiel Elliott, and it worked
out for CD Lamb because they were all okay playing
the game. They were okay playing the game where whether
advice they got from other Cowboys players like look, let
Jerry do his thing in the media, stay quiet, you'll

(25:47):
get paid. Right, it'll work. He loves because Jerry Jones
loves paying players. He loves paying guys where he could say,
this is my guy, right, I discovered Dak, right, I
discovered Zeke. He loves paying those guys.

Speaker 2 (25:59):
Right.

Speaker 1 (25:59):
That's always been as Achilles heel has been, I'm gonna
pay guys that I want to pay what maybe you
shouldn't pay. Is it no gonna do it? Okay, I'm
gonna pay Ziccula right the fut. But once in a while,
but you get to a point where, okay, this might
not be the guy, and you have to know Michah
Parsons enough from being the owner of the team and
everything you've had, all the interaction you had with him,

(26:20):
that okay, this might not be that time. You might
not be able to do this kind of negotiation. That
Michaeh Parsons is someone that, okay, it's a little bit different.
He's a new generation of player, right, because you're talking
about Dak Prescott and Ezekiel Elliott who came into the game.
You're talking about you know, eight nine years ago at
this point, right, that's that's forever in a day. Ceedee
Lamb came in a few years ago. He was okay,

(26:41):
he was okay with with following last. Now, Michah Parsons
is the best defensive player in the NFL. But eventually
players come in and they want to do things differently.
And Jerry jonesitting are saying, I did it with a
handshake and a look in the eye. I mean, I say,
you sound like you're eighty five years old, but Jerry
Jones is almost eighty five. It sounds like an antiquated
way of doing things that Okay, guess what, you can't

(27:02):
do it that way all the time. No, it's nice
in theory, and it's nice to be able to do
that in theory, right, And you wonder if this is
this is the moment where you realize, Okay, not only
has Jerry Jones been a bad GM, but maybe now, hey,
the game, the negotiation, the business part of aspect of
it is passing him by. Because this that's why this
is such a big moment, because if they if they

(27:23):
turn there, if they don't get things done with Micah Parsons,
the image of the Cowboys goes in the toilet. Free
agents don't want to go there. They're gonna find out
what five and six wins seasons are like for a while,
and you take away the best defensive player in the game,
and suddenly the Cowboys aren't a destination and now you
don't know that you can get paid if you go there.
But this also could be, Hey, this is the negotiation

(27:43):
where we realize maybe Jerry doesn't have his fastball anymore,
and he is he is too too uh, too much
of a of falling on the on the on the
way he used to do business and not being able
to adjust because this is a new kind of player
coming in going Yeah, I know we talked about it,
but you still gotta talk to my agent. I know
we shook hands or but you gotta talk to Major

(28:03):
because we got to sign it. This is on. You
still eventually have to put all the clauses and whatever
else that if this is that moment where not only
is is it the business part, but now not only
is it the game from the on the field, but
is the business part passing him by? Yeah on the
field side. I mean, I don't know. We'll talk to
Todd Furman.

Speaker 3 (28:20):
He's I think he's back from his sojourn that we
can get him back in the mix and harass him
about this as to what Michael Parsons really means for
a win total, because I don't I don't think it's
a dire necessarily on the field, certainly for this year.
You don't have an opportunity to go and replace his disruptiveness.
And I'm not trying to discount him at all, but clearly.

(28:43):
You know, the numbers bear it out. You know how
much more a quarterback and even other ancillary offensive parts
mean to a point spread and win total than then,
say an individual defender. But and in the end, guys
still want to get paid, and Jerry's still gonna pay guys,
so it'll be fine. But it's that that idea of
doing business was. Yeah, it was nice in a simpler way, Right,

(29:06):
You and I signed contracts. A lot of you out there,
whatever you do for a living, you know, you may
be on a contract basis. Right, you do six months here,
six months there. You sign a deal for a piece
of artwork or or some specialty job. You come in,
you do some welding, you do some whatever it is,
and but there's always clauses in the deal that you

(29:29):
still need to go back and review. Right, you may
agree in principle on dollars and cents, but then there's
still some other stuff that needs to be worked out.
In this case, I'm really curious what that gap is.
That is the That is the most fascinating part of
this to me, all of the rhetoric and all of
the blowback and all the interviews he's doing smiling talking
about the good old days and buying the team and

(29:50):
everything else. It's still are we talking a million dollars?
We're talking three million a year? I mean, are we
talking a total of ten million or less that gets
this thing done? Because you're just you know, penny wise,
pound foolish, right, dollar foolish and all of this stuff.

Speaker 1 (30:05):
Exit out about a Fresco exit swollen down The Jason
Smith Show with Mike Harmon, live from the Fox Sports
Radio studio. So okay, just think this could be the
moment where we realize the game has passed Jerry Jones
by amazing time. Got to find out what's trending from
a guy who's been called the Jerry Jones a Fox
Sports Radio. Don't do that to me or anyone. He
will shake your hand and look you in the eye.
It is Steve de Seger.

Speaker 4 (30:30):
The Padres are no longer leading at Arizona Diamondbacks have tied.

Speaker 1 (30:34):
At five five.

Speaker 4 (30:35):
They're now in the top of the nines. You recall
when the Padres recently acquired the a's closer Mason Miller,
who can throw over one hundred miles an hour, giving
the Padres four All Star relievers this year.

Speaker 1 (30:47):
Well.

Speaker 4 (30:47):
Miller was pitching with a five to three lead bottom
of the eighth. He threw a pitch to Lotis curry
Hill Junior at one hundred and three point nine miles
an hour and it was hit out for the time
to run homer one hundred and seven miles an hour
off the bat. That is the fastest pitch homered off
of since they've had the pitch tracking over fifteen years ago.

(31:09):
Padres five, Diamondbacks five, top of the night, Dodgers lead
Saint Louis ten to four, bottom of the eighth, two
homers for Max Monsey, just off the injured list this week.

Speaker 1 (31:18):
This is the greatest game Max months he has ever
had because he's got two home runs and two incredibly
good defensive plays at third base. I think he kept
the ball first base at the top of the ages.
It did look like that. I can't believe that's what happened,
but it made I just made the best play. Can
I got that ball? I want the ball.

Speaker 4 (31:36):
He did have an early air at third which led
to a couple of unearned runs. Just to balance Seattle
and Tampa Bay with wins, Toronto won again ten to
four at Colorado, Texas sent the Yankees to a fifth
straight loss to nothing. Nathan Evoldi ten and three was
the winning pitcher, lowered his ERA to one point three
to eight for the Rangers after his eight innings update.

(31:57):
Dodgers now eleven to four over the Cardinals in the bottom.

Speaker 1 (32:00):
Of the eighth.

Speaker 4 (32:01):
Boston won at seventh straight. Milwaukee won its fifth in
a row. Cincinnati beat the Cubs five to one in
Chicago with four runs in the seventh. Cubs only had
four hits in the game. Cleveland beat the Mets in
New York three to two. Guardians have won six of seven.
Mets have lost seven of eight, and they're now two
and a half games back in the first place Phillies
in the NL East. Philadelphia shut out Baltimore five nothing

(32:22):
Taiwan Walker with the Wing going six innings. Minnesota won
at Detroit. Sixty three victories on the road for Houston,
San Francisco and the A's, who wanted Washington sixteen to seven.
Nationals have lost sixth straight. Shay Langeleers of the Athletics
three home runs. He went five for six, and his
teammate JJ Bledet had six RBIs La Rams gave running

(32:45):
back Kyron Williams a three year extension. The Chargers signed
free agent wide receiver Keenan Allen. The five WNBA games
are all final wins for LA and Minnesota, although for
Minnesota all starting to Feasa Collier out at least two
weeks with sprayinged Ankle, Chicago be Washington. Angel Reese has
now missed six of the last eight games with a
bad back. New York over Dallas, New York star Breonna

(33:08):
Stewart has missed over a week with a broone Bruce Enterny,
and of course I mentioned Indiana lost at LA. Caitlin
Clark of the Fever has missed eight straight games with
no time built table for a return. And then you
got Phoenix ripping Connecticut tonight, a team that's five and
twenty three and will be sold shortly pending approval, and
moved in a couple of years to Boston.

Speaker 1 (33:28):
Back to you, Thank you, Steve O. The Jason Smith
Show with my best friend Mike Harmon live from the
Fox Sports Radio Studios. Coming up next, we get back
into the two biggest stories of the night from Major
League Baseball, and one is still going. Wait do we
tell you what just happened. That's next right here, Jason.

Speaker 2 (33:45):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
pm Pacific, Fox.

Speaker 1 (33:53):
Sports Radio The Jason Smith Show with My best friend
Mike Harmon Hobo. Yeah, you know, we always say ahead
of the curve always, and we told you last night. Hey,
if this Yankee slide continues, Aaron Boone ain't making it right.
It's not happening. There's no player movement you can make.

(34:13):
There's one trade deadline now, and the Yankees are just
free falling through the standings. They have lost thirteen games
in the standings over the course of the last five weeks.
They're looking up at the Red Sox now. They lose
tonight to the Rangers two to nothing. Devin Williams, who
gives up a home run last night in the ninth
inning to tie the game on the way to the

(34:34):
Yankees loss, Aaron Boone brings him back into the eighth
inning to face the same guy again. Bring you back
in again? What does he do? He gives up two runs.
The Yankees lose two to nothing. Like I don't know
who Yankee fans hate more now between Devin Williams and
Aaron Boone, and I'm telling you, I'm sorry, but Pete
Alonzo broke Devin Williams. But fire Boone is the number

(34:56):
one trending topic on social media. And we told you
last If you get to the middle late part of
August and the Yankees are two three games out, they're
not just gonna let this season spiral and okay, at
the end of the year, we're gonna make a change
of manager. Now, this team is talented enough, the American
League is really wide open. They will make a move

(35:18):
and hoping it's Gina. If it is, because Gina would
be great. But this would be one of those times
where the Yankees have to say, okay, if we're gonna
do it, we want to try to save the season.
And maybe, you know, whatever it is, however, you want
to lay the blame at Boone's fall of feet or not.
He's been the manager there for eight years. They haven't
won a title. This is how they garner and judge

(35:39):
success in New York. He has a couple of weeks
maybe to turn things around. Maybe, or the Yankees will
make a move to try to save the season.

Speaker 3 (35:49):
Well, let's go to our friends at the New York Post.
Oh boy, this will be the back page, but for
now it is the top of the sports section.

Speaker 1 (35:57):
It goes on and on and on.

Speaker 3 (36:01):
Devin in Hell, Devin in Hell. Aaron Judges return can't
help Yankees. Devin Williams gives it up again as free
fall continues. Subtitle not even Aaron Judges return can act
as a human defibrillator for the Yankees.

Speaker 1 (36:17):
And Yankee fans. TJ walking around after the game going no, no, no, no,
now the flip side, the flip side. I'm telling you
Aaron Boone has a couple of weeks maybe, or the
Yankees will have because it doesn't matter who you replace
him with. It's just, hey, some kind of spartismatic game

(36:38):
needs something right now. We talked about Friday night when
they lost that game to the Marlins, and I said, hey,
put a pin in this game because the end of
the year, we can look back at that and say
that could be the game we look and say that
game ended the Yankee season because it was the first
game after the deadline, all the new acquisitions were out.
What happened All three bullpen guys got hit. Uh you

(36:59):
saw the Caballero make a huge mistake in the error
in right field, bad base running, you name it, they
did it. Not every game has created equal in Major
League Baseball, even though, hey, you gotta put bad losses
behind you, get back out there the next day. We
could look back and say that loss, that was the
loss that ended the Yankee season. On the flip side
of it, tonight, right now, ninth inning, Dodgers lead the

(37:23):
Cardinals twelve to four. The Dodgers have kind of just
been meandering around for the past couple of months, injuries
at starting pitching. How are they gonna go? You got
two home runs tonight from Max Munsey and the best
game he has ever played. If he retired off of
this game, I would say Max's never gonna get any better. Right,
Two on runs, two sparkling defensive plays at third again,

(37:44):
I think he kept the ball after a second big
play defensively, you had two on runs. Fight ty Oscar Hernandez.
The Dodgers are scoring a lot of runs out here.
We could look back at this game at the end
of the year and go, that's the game that got
the Dodgers season back on track because they had been
just kind of skuffling and trying to get by. Still,
we're for the Dodgers. It's not a question of making

(38:04):
the playoffs. It's hey, you spend all this money to
win the World Series this year. You went all in.
You spend all kinds of money, and now you have
four hundred million dollars of starting pitching on the injured list. Hey,
you need something. This could be that game we go, Hey,
when did the Dodgers get their season back on track?
That big win over the Cardinals in early August when
you had Max Munsey who had been missing from the

(38:25):
lineup for a while. Maybe he's the real MVP Hernandez
with a couple of home runs. This could Mookie Betts
getting a couple of it. But the thing, right, it
is his first two hits since April, So we could
look back and say this.

Speaker 3 (38:37):
Is that he broke an oh for twenty two streak tonight. Uh,
and he's gone three for four and you can see
the relief on his face. The third hit was a
ball hit back up the middle. Pitcher narrowly avoids taking
one in the calf, uh, and then rolls into center field.

(38:57):
So you end up with a three for four day.
For him, three runs scored. Otani set in the table
two for four, three runs scored for him, but all
in he started to be You saw them play a
little looser. You know, the Cardinals, they're at five hundred,
They're they're not, you know, a dismal Cardinals squad. It's

(39:18):
certainly not the expectations for what you know, what they
tell me are the best baseball fans of the world.

Speaker 1 (39:23):
No, they're notches.

Speaker 3 (39:24):
But the the here is that the starting pitching is
still gonna be a question. Right tomorrow, Toni's gonna take
the hill for an early start afternoon game. Snell came
back over the weekend, all right, nice tune up, but
didn't get out of the fourth. What are the expect
expectations on him? How quickly does he ramp up starting rotation?

(39:47):
But to get these guys starting to hit and in sync.
Going back to our topic of last night and boy
bands and all that, we can start seeing more of
Tasker Hernandez be that guy that he was in the
playoffs year ago, and Mookie Betts show some semblance of
the guy that we've watched for the last decade. Yeah,
very dangerous spot for the rest of the NL.

Speaker 1 (40:08):
This could be that night for the Dodgers. Right Yin
and Yang? Right, Yankees and Dodgers. One team going one way,
one team going the other way. This dog is saying, Hey,
what do you want from me? Coming up next, the
biggest story of the night. Keep it right here, Jason
and Mike. This is Fox Sports Radio.
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