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Jason Smith and Steve DeSaegher discuss how Deion Sanders and his Colorado team are now must see TV.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 1 (00:30):
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(00:51):
here we are. Steve O. Dabosweetey Clemson fall to Duke
twenty eight to seven.

Speaker 3 (00:58):
And he said, in all my years of football, this
is the most disappointing. Never seen something like this tonight.

Speaker 1 (01:04):
And I really don't like nil. Can I talk about
that for a second. See this is why Duke got
all their players because of nil. And this is what's
shocking about No. Look, by the way, anybody.

Speaker 3 (01:15):
That Duke gets as a transfer in still has to
qualify academically to go to Duke. Can we mention that
out loud?

Speaker 1 (01:21):
Yeah, you can't just walk right and I'm ready.

Speaker 3 (01:23):
No, no, no, not to that point yet.

Speaker 1 (01:25):
Oh okay, Now, this is just one game for Dabosweeney.
But just to think about this for a second, Sweeney,
the last couple of years, maybe he knows I don't
quite have the teams that I had. I don't have
Trevor Lawrence anymore. I don't have Deshaun Watson, who was
as good as he was. He's fifty three, right, he's
fifty three, and so he's still really young and young

(01:46):
in the coaching profession. But but this loss to Duke
is a really big deal, right, this is I know
you're on the road, but boy, this is a Duke
to You are a three touchdown face over Duke. Already.
You can hear Dabo say things, Hey, I'm not that
up on the nil situation. I'm not. You know, he

(02:09):
doesn't like that as much. I'm not a big fan
of where college football is right now, and I just
wonder if this is the beginning of the year for him,
where depending on how this year goes for Clemson, that
he becomes the next I don't want to say he
becomes the next Urban Meyer because it's completely different circumstances.

Speaker 3 (02:29):
No, I honestly thought you were going to say he
becomes the next veteran coach to become an assistant at Alabama. Yeah, honestly, or.

Speaker 1 (02:37):
The offensive coordinator for the Patriots, either one. Either of
those things he does. But you you wonder if Dabo
wants to Obviously he'll want to continue on to coach,
but maybe he's maxing out of Clemson and he's the
salad days that he had. He's not going to be
able to keep him going. And this is just one
just seeing where Dabo is. You know, mentally is far

(03:00):
is where college football is right now, and it's the
wild West. It changes every single day, and a lot
of coaches aren't up for it right It's the it's
the younger coaches who are coming in right now that
are all trying to master the nil situation, the transfer
portal and all of these things that Clemson won't use.
It's kind of an antiquated way of thinking and not
that it would be so much for on the on

(03:22):
the school's side as well. But if Clemson struggles, doesn't
Damosweeney sit back and go, Okay, I think I've done
all I can do here, and if I'm not gonna
be this kind of coach, and I want to wait
and see how things shake out in college football for
a couple of years. Maybe I go and I'm on
TV for a couple of years and I do the

(03:42):
Urban Meyer thing, and then when I'm ready, I get
my pick back in because he'll go anywhere he wants
to coming off the success he at. One bad year
at Clemson isn't gonna make people think Damin doesn't know
what he's doing. Hey, give me some time away from
the game where I can still be involved in the
game and I can kind of gauge where to go
from here, because the game is gonna be different in
two years than it is now. Maybe it'll be a

(04:04):
game where I'm a little bit more conducive to succeeding
in that if I take a couple of years off,
because I I don't think he's gonna be a guy
that sits around for the fall of Clemson, right, I mean,
the last two guys he's brought in a quarterback. Djila
was supposed to be in right physically, he had all
the gifts. He couldn't win, couldn't move the team. Hey, Kate, Clubnick,
he's the next guy win one games? Yeah, one games.

(04:29):
But wasn't wasn't Trevor Lawrence, wasn't Deshaun Watson. It's hard
to live up to those guys. But Uanila not the
guy goes to Oregon. Happiest guy in the world right
now is him going through fives? And we won? Uh?
So he doesn't succeed there, Clubnick, you now don't know
you know where he is going for because he had
an awful game tonight. Uh And so if I don't,
if he doesn't know that he's got that next great

(04:51):
quarterback coming. He's built a lot here, he's built this program.
He's won two national championships. I wonder if this this
will be the pen if this this year goes like this,
that he's at the end of the year, it's you
know what, I'm walking away. I need some time off
and I'm gonna go do TV. And you know he
doesn't even need to do the family think. It's just
you know, I need a breakup, burnt out. I've been

(05:12):
doing it for a long time when you know he's
I'm not going to preside over a fall, and the
fall of Clemson is clearly what could be coming here.
So I'm wondering, if you get to the end of
this year and this season plays out a lot of
stops and starts, he doesn't see it getting better. If
this is the end of the run for dabble with Clemson.

Speaker 3 (05:27):
And it's not that Clemson, as we mentioned earlier, can't
have a good season and a bowl game and a
bowl win and all of that, but it is a
possibility realistically that they are two and two at the
end of this month. I was only half kidding about
becoming an assistant for Alabama. There is an Alabama clause
in that ten year contract he is just starting. If
he left after this year, for example, for Alabama specifically,

(05:51):
he would have to pay Clemson seven and a half
million dollars, and that amount drops a little bit every
year all the way through twenty thirty through the life
of the If he leaves Clemson for an NFL job,
he wouldn't allow it, wouldn't owe Clemson anything.

Speaker 1 (06:07):
Yeah, I mean, if if he wants to try his
head at the NFL. This would certainly be the time
to do it. Hey, he's a hot guy coming out
of college. I just don't know if that's where he wants.
I've never really heard. Now you heard the whispers that
he wants to go to the NFL.

Speaker 3 (06:20):
Which is why it's written that way.

Speaker 1 (06:21):
I'm sure, yeah, so, but if he but if he
steps out, he steps out, right, Look, I'm gonna retire, Okay.

Speaker 3 (06:26):
Well he says no to the rest of the money
one of these ten year, hundred million contracts that the
Georgia coach has and the Alabama coach as the Clemson
coach is starting.

Speaker 1 (06:36):
I mean, I really, because he's gonna look, he'll be
well sought after, He'll be somebody who really wants I
I just it's it's.

Speaker 3 (06:43):
Hard eracuse Orange.

Speaker 1 (06:45):
He's a dude. I have this love hate thing with
Dino Babers because there's times I think, boy, he's really
what we need for seven years. Other times I go,
what are we doing? It's been sweeping to one Bowl
game in the last five year. Come on, man, I
have this.

Speaker 3 (07:05):
Sorry, that's my fault. That's second time. That's my fault.
For bringing up Syracuse football. I thought it would be
a good thing because of the you know, the opening
win and all and the shutout and too bad they
can't play Colgate every week.

Speaker 1 (07:16):
But no, it's okay. Now we have Western Michigan next week.

Speaker 3 (07:18):
There, Oh, go for it.

Speaker 1 (07:19):
Oh yeah.

Speaker 3 (07:20):
As far as this orange team, Clemson, didn't they play
in the Orange Bowl last year against Tennessee. It was
all orange. You couldn't tell who was who in this crowd.
But you had a Clemson preseason top ten team that
had one touchdown against Duke for crying out loud. And
it's not the Duke's bad, it's just your Clemson. So
how is this happening? In fact, you'd have to go
back to two thousand and seven since Clemson scored this

(07:44):
few points against an unranked opponent. And here Duke is
quite a story on the flip side because with the
new coach and the scoring quarterback from last year, they
hit the ground running this year. And I know I
kind of joked about the ACC schedule that Clemson plays well,
that means that Duke gets to play some of these

(08:06):
ACC teams that we don't necessarily look up to either,
like Virginia and Wake Forest and so forth. And they
also have games against Yukon and Northwestern coming up next
week Lafayette, so go for co Duke. They could be
piling up the w's.

Speaker 1 (08:20):
Look at Duke, are your new college football playoff? After
Week one? It's Colorado, Syracuse, Duke, and Michigan. There you go.
Those are your teams. Those are fortunes.

Speaker 3 (08:31):
What if Duke actually wins at North Carolina late in
the season, Duke could have something like a ten and
two type of record. I mean, that's what they're staring at.

Speaker 1 (08:40):
The possibilities Duke versus Colorado for the national championship. Duke Colorado,
See that should be some sort of consolation bowl, because
I would watch.

Speaker 3 (08:50):
I would watch more than I would watch probably one
of those first round games next year.

Speaker 1 (08:56):
I'll tell you what. Listen, and we'll have more of
the clubs upset loss coming up in a bit. But
the thing about Colorado, and it's been such a huge
conversation this weekend, there's nobody I've talked to that hasn't
the second thing in the conversation hasn't been Colorado. When
it comes to sports. Whatever's going on Colorado and Colorado's
win over TCU, and and there's the look you're gonna

(09:18):
hear a lot of different reasons. And you already started
to hear some Hey, what does this mean? What did
they accomplish? What did Colorado really do? And while Colorado
they did two things, I'll tell you they did two things.
They did, but they did one thing, okay, and they
did one thing that's unbelievably large. The first thing they
did was they arrived sooner than expected. Right. I know

(09:40):
Dion was talking a lot about all the haters. Everybody,
you didn't pick me, you didn't believe it. I don't
think there was anybody that didn't believe Dian was gonna win.
It just was was he really going to win this fast?
Because college football is not a add water and stir
type situation, right, you don't do that. You don't tru
up with eighty seven new players, install a new offense
and say hey, we're going to go play great just.

Speaker 3 (10:01):
The first half of that sentence. You don't show up
with eighty seven new players. That happens everybody. It's like
the first day of summer camp night. Everybody.

Speaker 1 (10:09):
If you have a blue name tag, you're on this
side a red name tag.

Speaker 3 (10:12):
That's right, So why weren't they turning the ball over
left and right as a new team, or one penalty
after another, or the string of false starts, and yet
they kept needing to score or make a big play,
and they kept doing it, and they won the high
scoring game at TCU Saturday because of it. Remember, Colorado
lined up for a forty nine yard field goal to
end the first half and made it and wound up

(10:33):
winning by three. It was one clutch play after another.
Offense and defense not just special teams.

Speaker 1 (10:39):
It's it's a rival suitor that expected. I thought it
would take about midway through the season and then you
were going to see Colorado be really good, right cause,
like I said, it's not he this is something that
we've never seen before, this type of performance, this quick,
with this kind of turnover, right, it doesn't happen this way.
It just doesn't.

Speaker 3 (10:58):
It couldn't before.

Speaker 1 (11:00):
And now now you're little, it's a little bit more
I would say, a tiny bit more conducive to it
because you have the transfer portal and so many you
have big time players changing every year now, so they
have to chump.

Speaker 3 (11:11):
Even people that aren't JT. Daniels was quarterbacking for Rice
last weekend. There are people that are on their third
and fourth team.

Speaker 1 (11:17):
Oh, he was the first ever journeyman quarterback in college
football JT. There are some.

Speaker 3 (11:22):
I mean we saw it. We talked about Michael Pennox earlier.
The guy had five touchdown passes for Washington over the weekend.
Slow start, but eventually blew out. Boise stayed. I think
he's in his ninth year of eligibility. I think between
all the injuries and the COVID year, it might be
his ninth. Don't don't write that down in pen but
it might be the case.

Speaker 1 (11:38):
They serenated him with a happy thirtieth after he threw
the fifth touchdown on Sordy.

Speaker 3 (11:43):
He's actually a clipped Dorian Thompson Robinson from UCLA for
PAC twelve record of most years.

Speaker 1 (11:49):
He's eclipped the age of Dorian Gray.

Speaker 3 (11:53):
But what painting being.

Speaker 1 (11:56):
Able to do that now we ah backwards, sorry spoiler.
So he's been able to do that much quicker than anticipating,
which nobody thought. That's the big on field thing is
nobody thought he wasn't gonna win, but it would take
a little bit of time and I thought middle of
the season, you get to week six, week seven, then
we're gonna hit a stride. But the bigger thing they did,
and this is the biggest thing for college football, is

(12:17):
college football needs a national team. They need a national
presence to continue to grow the game because college football
has become incredibly regionalized in the last few years. We've
went through the Alabama run. That was terrific, but we
kind of got bored with Alabama. We need something else, right,
we had the USC dynasty in the early two thousands,

(12:37):
we jumped to Tim Tebow, who ran the sport reviews.
Then we had Johnny Manziel and now what And we
had Alabama's run, but we're kind of bored with it.
Alabama is not that interesting. Nick Saban doesn't say anything.
He's krusty and curmudgeley. That's who Nick Saban is. But
here comes Dean Sanders, who was full of bluster and
bravado and talent and desire and the desire to shove

(12:58):
it your face. And here he is with some dudes
that you saw. His son is terrific. You watch Travis
Hunter that game. He had one hundred and ten snaps.
Something to marvel at, watch them play defense, watch them
catch eleven passes for one hundred and twenty yards. He's
got dudes, And suddenly Colorado's win is all anybody wants
to talk about. They are a national team. Alababa, We're

(13:20):
not even gonna get talk to them about the show.
No one really cares. Georgia doesn't matter. But Colorado and
Deon Sanders they have become college football. And it helps
that Deon Sanders is a huge personality and he's someone
that we knew coming in. But it helps even more
that he's someone that doesn't care about what people say
about him. He doesn't care what he says. He doesn't
care what the fallen is, he doesn't care what the

(13:41):
reaction is to it. He is someone that grabs everybody's
attention and demands that you pay attention to him. And
that's what college football needs. They need a national team
that every Saturday, what are we gonna go? Wh Hey,
we gotta make sure I want to watch Syracuse. I
gotta make sure I watch Colorado's. I'm gonna watch Indiana
and I gotta make sure I watch Colorado. I'm gonna
watch Stony and then make sure I watched Colorado. Right,

(14:01):
I'm gonna watch USC. I'm gonna watch Colorado. They've become
must see television and the biggest stars of the game,
Dion and Colorado. They've become it. And it's great because
it cuts through the clutter. It's new. It's not a
retread of something we've seen before. It's something we haven't
seen before. Tell you the two biggest sports that needed
to cut through, we're baseball at college football. Baseball got

(14:23):
show Heyo, Toddy, never seen that before. Hey, that helped
the sport immensely. College football needs the same fig and
we got it. That has helped the sport immensely. They
are national, they are it in college football.

Speaker 3 (14:35):
And Fox TV wisely had Colorado as it's opening, big
noon Saturday game, and boy did it deliver. And now
they had already scheduled Colorado's second game, the home opener
for Dion and Crewe. This Saturday is gonna be the
big noon game on Fox TV when they host Nebraska.
And coming up the two games at the end of
September for the Buffalos at Oregon and hosting USC back

(14:57):
to back. I'm glad you brought up Travis Hunter of Colorado,
because that's a superstar recruit that Dion brought with him,
and he brought two family members who starred Saturday as well.
So in addition to all the other transfers, he personally
in this unique change of venue, brought immediate talent with him.
It wasn't just other transfer portal guys from some independent

(15:19):
you choosing Colorado, but Travis Hunter with the starring plays
on offense and defense. You're old enough to get this
reference I mentioned on the Saturday Night Show. It immediately
reminded me of Gordie Lockbaum, a guy from holy Cross
who finished third for the Heisman Trophy in the late
nineteen eighties because he played defense and offense. The year

(15:42):
before his Heisman votes season he had eight hundred yards rushing,
eight hundred yards receiving at about fifty tackles all in
the same season, and then was even better than that
as a senior at holy Cross. He got to New
York as Heisman finalist. Travis Hunter had a phenomenal opening
his first game with Colorado.

Speaker 1 (16:02):
Yeah, no, no, and and there's more of I mean,
look obviously at Colorado and being that guy, he's going
to get a little more a little more exposure than
you do it at holy Cross. Yeah, I don't think Holly.
Back to the high.

Speaker 3 (16:15):
Lockbom cover of Sports Illustrated, that's how the country found
out people used to read, you know, print magazines back then.

Speaker 1 (16:21):
That that is true. That is true. But you know
it's it's just it's when stuff cuts through the clutter,
it's different. It just it just lands differently because oh,
I haven't seen this.

Speaker 3 (16:34):
Kind of like this show in the evenings on the
landscape of United States Radio exactly.

Speaker 1 (16:39):
We got to give you something. Look, look, and you
know you say that that's kind that's kind of accurate,
because what we need to do is give you stuff
that you haven't heard all day. That's right.

Speaker 3 (16:46):
And can I say as a listener, what you guys
do you and Mike, is you treat this like the
live radio show it is. I can't tell you the
amount of shows I have heard that sound like either
they could be pod or tape. This morning, you are
on top of things as games are happening, like tonight,
and first with the recap after the evening games are done.

(17:09):
It's a good show.

Speaker 1 (17:10):
Oh, thank you very much, Steve. You want to be
on again tomorrow.

Speaker 3 (17:12):
No, oh, I am not saying that for this reason.
I'm saying as a listener, it delivers in that way,
and that's what we as sports fans need and do we.
I can't tell you the amount of people that probably
had a Colorado show written and would have gone all
the hours with it. And guess what, something bigger happened
for tonight and you've been on it. That's the show.

(17:35):
That's what happens on this show. Whether I'm in the
building on a particular night or not, that's what happens.

Speaker 1 (17:40):
Steve de Sager is in the building. Steve de Sager
is in the building. Twitter, and how about a fresco
Jason Smith Steve Sager in for Mike Harmon tonight to
here Colorado has become the topic in that quick a time. Hey,
you know what, my most the most favorite part I
had from the Colorado game against TCU on Saturday. Coming
up next, plus a big story out of Major League

(18:02):
Baseball as it looks like the Dodgers may be without
one of their best players for the rest of the season.
That's coming up next right here, Fox.

Speaker 2 (18:10):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern seven
pm Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.

Speaker 1 (18:22):
Fox Sports Radio. Happy Labor Day. Maybe you're hanging out
listen to the show while you're in a piano bar
thinking about why you bet money on Clemson it didn't
work out. Well, we're here for you here on the show.
Jason Smith's Teve De Sager in for Mike Harmon tonight.
Now I ask you this, STEVEO, because I know you're
gonna love this. So we've talked about this. Duke upset

(18:44):
and Clemson tonight, twenty eight to seven.

Speaker 3 (18:46):
Huge upsid.

Speaker 1 (18:47):
Duke had lost twenty eight straight games against teams ranked
in the top ten. Last time Duke beat a top
ten team was in nineteen eighty nine when they beat Clemson. Yes,
who was the head coach of Duke in that game?

Speaker 3 (19:05):
Nineteen eighty nine? Spurrier?

Speaker 1 (19:07):
Steve Spurrier, Yes, was the head coach of Duke in
that game.

Speaker 3 (19:12):
People don't realize. Kind of made his bones as a
coach there and went on from there. But for Duke to.

Speaker 1 (19:18):
While going, how cout people call my home? Why I
call my phone? It's like twelve thirty at nine. Why
people got I gotta got, I got a lot of
golf in the morning. Why people go oh oh oh
that sound Yeah, sure, I'm up for that interview. How
about you want to bet spurry is going to be
a Dan Patrick tomorrow talking about the eighty nine game again.

Speaker 3 (19:33):
And then you're gonna hear it now Clamson's kind of problem.
But by any way, for Duke to only allow one
touchdown against a top ten opponent, this was the fewest
points allowed by a Duke team two an ap ranked opponent,
top ten or otherwise since nineteen seventy one, when Duke
won a nine to three game against a top ten
Stanford team the year after Jim Plunkett graduated. Wow in

(19:56):
Duke football history. Can we put a little context as
to how huge night this is? Beat Clemson twenty eight
to seven. And you mentioned that twenty eight losses in
a row against top ten teams. That was twenty eight
losses in a row by an average of thirty five
points per game. They dominated Clemson second half. Clemson was

(20:17):
the gang that couldn't shoot straight.

Speaker 1 (20:19):
Yeah, this is not going to be a night that clebs.
It's going to want to go back and look at
the tape of this game. Now another quick college football
ufore we get to a big story in baseball. Is
you know my favorite part of the Colorado TCU game
was on Saturday. I was exciting. It was back and forth.
You know, either team could have won. It was it
was just it was just so much fun to watch.
But you know when they do for each school, when

(20:40):
they have the thirty second commercial about come to this school. Sure,
when they go, hey, every commercial is the same, right,
it's all, hey, we have the leaders of the.

Speaker 3 (20:49):
Next show the science lab.

Speaker 1 (20:51):
Yeah, there's always people with white coats on and goggles
doing something science wise. There's somebody doing something on computers,
and you know, we're seeing some kind of of a
computer out that looks like it's out of minority report,
you know. Or they're moving stuff around with their heads
and everything else.

Speaker 3 (21:06):
So you're saying it's not really the picture. It should
be like, Hey, come to USC because our quarterback has
fifty two nil deals.

Speaker 1 (21:13):
Yeah, yeah, come here because we're gonna win a lot
of games, at least until we played Notre Dame. You know,
they show you that thirty second hey, and they're always
great shots of the of the of the campus and
how pretty it looks because they make sure to take
it out a nice warm summer day.

Speaker 3 (21:25):
Oh great, this actually has something to do with Colorado
what you just said, because right when they started to
be good and recruit with the Cartney in the late nineties,
you know, Eric the Enemy and other guys went there.
One of the recruits wound up an all American linemen said,
you know, I went from southern California to Colorado because
on my visit they told me that's X number of
days two hundred something sunny days in the state of Colorado.

(21:48):
They didn't tell me it was Sonny and twenty. But
they got the recruit anywhere.

Speaker 1 (21:53):
Yeah, they don't do that at Syracuse. What's the weather like, Well,
there won't be ten nice days from Halloween hill May.

Speaker 3 (22:00):
First, so we have a don't government care.

Speaker 1 (22:03):
So uh so you know, they do the whole thing.
Oh hey, come here, they show how great the school is.
Maybe a famous alum is this.

Speaker 3 (22:09):
Picturesque with the mountains for Colorado, for example.

Speaker 1 (22:12):
That's great, but they do the one for Colorado and
everything is a reference to Dion Sanders and it's it's
the it's the it's the the schools, uh, chancellor going,
we have prime location, and then you know it's a
students saying, we have prime opportunities for anything you want
to do. Everything was prime, and I'm going, oh my god,
Dion Sanders is the entire university.

Speaker 3 (22:33):
And you wonder why universities pay millions to coaches. They're
in the face of the school. It's marketing.

Speaker 1 (22:38):
Everything was pride. We have you have prime chances to
be whoever you want to be. Here at Colorado, we
have prime learning to Everything was prime. And the smiles
on everybody's faces because normally when you try to get
you know, chancellors or people who are administrators, you know
they can only give you so much. Because I used
to be it on camera. No, they're all so smiley
and happy. Yeah we got that. It's like they did
it live. It's like, hey, yeah, excited you're winning this

(23:01):
game now, it's so exciting. We're gonna do this live.
It's fantastic. Oh, I mean, that was my most favorite
part of what's going. I can't believe even about the
school that has nothing to do with football at all,
even the stuff about the schools about Deyonce.

Speaker 3 (23:14):
Just wait till you see the smiles on Colorado once
they get to play Colorado State. You know, that's an
annual game and a lot of times it's a neutral
site game and it's the game for the state. But
Colorado State was awful last year. Not as bad as
Colorado was last year, but bad. And Colorado State just
opened losing fifty to twenty four to Washington State at home,

(23:36):
fifty not to Washington to Washington State.

Speaker 1 (23:40):
Yeah, there's a lot of teams that were saying, yeah,
we get Colorado. Oh now, it's all man, we get Colorado.

Speaker 3 (23:44):
So that's in a couple of weeks.

Speaker 1 (23:45):
Yeah, Nebraska's like, yeah, we get Colorado. Oh we get
Colorado now. Oh boy. You know. The other fun part too,
just really quick, is that you mentioned those great Colorado
teams of the early nineties, and it kind of reminded
me a little bit of that too, obviously, because you know,
I was in college, I was younger. It was fun,
you know, oh the good old days always when you're younger.
But that was those Colorado teams of the late eighties

(24:08):
early nineties Bill McCartney that just jumped onto the scene.
They were never any good and suddenly bam boy.

Speaker 3 (24:14):
Colorado recruited like they had not recruited before in the eighties.

Speaker 1 (24:19):
It's amazing to watch them. And they have quarterbacks, whether
it was the late SALINESSI who was able to jump in,
whether it was Darian Hagen.

Speaker 3 (24:26):
We had Mike Pritchard on the air tonight receiver.

Speaker 1 (24:28):
Yeah, yeah, I mean, you had Charles Johnson. You had
so many great plays. And then you go into Cordell
Stewart and Michael Westbrook. Is that this was like the
beginning of colle because Colorado was fun in the nineties
because you used to all the same teams in the
you know, for the seventies and eighties, it's Oklahoma Nebraska
every year and the winner of that's good Win the Conferendship.

Speaker 3 (24:47):
And yeah, Colorado was in that conference then. And then
there was about a five ten year span with Colorado football.
They finished finished top five nationally four or five times.

Speaker 1 (24:56):
Yeah. Now now you get to Colorado suddenly, hey we're here.
It's like WHOA, Colorado was good and you're interested in them,
and it's Eric Bienemy, it's Rashaan Salam winning the Heisman
Trophy a few years later, and I mean that Colorado
just program just burst on the scene and then obviously
though they had their run and then they had difficulties.
But that's kind of what what Deon Sanders has done.
Just a generation later. Hey, we're bursting back on the

(25:17):
scene with Colorado football. And that was kind of cool
because I got to go back and look at some
of the games and see the national championship game against
Notre Dame and the big clipping penalty that that you know,
that that cost No Tame a chance to Colorado to
win the national title on rocket ismail and that was
that was a really fun memory lane. Look looking back,
I felt the same thing. But Colorado just showed up

(25:39):
out of nowhere in nineteen ninety. Here they're showing up
out of nowhere in twenty twenty three.

Speaker 3 (25:42):
Do you know who the Colorado quarterback was twenty years ago?

Speaker 1 (25:46):
Oh, twenty years ago?

Speaker 3 (25:48):
The Colorado game last weekend and will this weekend? It
was Joel Klatt a Fox Stevie.

Speaker 1 (25:55):
Really, you're going to doing all kinds of interviews now too,
These all kinds of interviews, So Clatt, anybody had anything
to do with Colorado, Hey, come on the air, talk
about how excited you It's like when USC got really
good at the early two thousands, all the celebrities that
Will Ferrell would not be the star he was now
if he didn't go to USC. Sorry, that's a hot tay.

Speaker 3 (26:11):
He used to He used to work in this sports
information department at SC.

Speaker 1 (26:15):
He used to referee in ayso.

Speaker 3 (26:19):
So it was just a movie with the kids soccer.

Speaker 1 (26:21):
Oh no, no, dude, you want a great story. So this
is about five years ago.

Speaker 3 (26:25):
This is Will Ferrell, who's the owner now of the
soccer team LAFC that played Lionel Messi last night.

Speaker 1 (26:31):
Yeah, and star of Barbie. Because now millennials don't know
who Will Ferrell is, but now you be Oh guy,
I was.

Speaker 3 (26:36):
On this show called Saturday Night Live, which of course
seems like it hasn't been on the air for three
years because of the strike. But yeah, that's where he
made his bones, bitch, I thought.

Speaker 1 (26:45):
Though, we just continued to So this is about five
years ago and I'm coaching I think it was you
ten All Star team, you eleven All Star team in soccer,
and we're playing here in La on South LA's Field,
which is like maybe about twenty five minutes. Warehouse is
a big tournament going on and so we're on the
field warming up and I knew that he was a

(27:07):
referee and did stuff because this kid plays at Ayso
so we're warming up on the field and I got everywhere.
I'm talking to the girls, everything else, and all of
a sudden, I see the tallest guy in the world,
because he's like nine feet tall. He just comes walking
across the field dress referee outfit. I'm just going to
his car to leave, and he just goes. He's walking by.
The go oh my god, that's Will Ferrell. And he
walks by. He kind of gives me a you know,

(27:27):
a wick and a nod and he say and I go, hey,
and I look, and I go to Zoe because Elf
is one of her favors. Go, Zoe, that's Will Ferrell
right there. Just what, I go, that's Will Ferrell right there.
And she runs It tells all her teammates.

Speaker 3 (27:39):
Happens in La all the time for people who don't
live here. Eventually, at some point in the year, I'm serious,
you will see someone. Last weekend, I saw Jay Leno
driving past me. It just it. It happens all the time.

Speaker 1 (27:51):
Was he going to his garage and do the jay
Lett's girl.

Speaker 3 (27:54):
I think he was because he was in an old car.
I've seen him. I'm not kidding. I've seen him now
four times driving and in a different old car every time.

Speaker 1 (28:02):
Maybe he's stalking you, that's what he don't know.

Speaker 3 (28:04):
It's always going the opposite way, not behind me, but
like I'm going to the freeway and he's coming off
the freeway that I.

Speaker 1 (28:12):
Think maybe he wants to work late at night. And
he wants work late at night again, she's yeah, well.

Speaker 3 (28:16):
You know he had that what was the old groudchow
Mark show, You bet your life. They've redone it with
him as the host in syndication, but I assume because
it has writers. That's another thing. Like SNL, it's not
going to be on for a while.

Speaker 1 (28:28):
Yeah, yeah, do you think he could do what's trending?
Like if I said, out, let's go to jay leto
and find or you just do like a big jy
walking skit and now that.

Speaker 3 (28:35):
Would be entertaining, But no, he is he is admittedly
not a sports fan.

Speaker 1 (28:39):
Yea too bad? But yeah, well will Ferls wearing wearing
this referee outfit, the big black and yellow striped shirt
that looks just terrible and and they all started waving
yelling Will Fat, but he was already in his car.
He kind of waved back. It was really nice. Uh,
but he's just he's refage games.

Speaker 3 (28:56):
That's a good that's a Frankly, that's a good story
for her growing up to keep years from now for
somebody who Elf hit them in there. I mean health
hit us when we were already adults. Frankly, Yeah, when
it means something and you know that kind of thing young.
And then that's the guy in ELF that I saw
at soccer. That's a story that could be told ten

(29:18):
years from now.

Speaker 1 (29:19):
Well, that's tell the rest of our life. He Will
Ferrell was refereeing game. I wish I had him as
a referee. Among all the mood, the references I would
have made if he was refing a game that if
he made a mistake on a call and go, that's
the biggest mistake you've made since Stranger than fiction, you know, now.

Speaker 3 (29:33):
Held on just tried to go serious there.

Speaker 1 (29:37):
I think you would have liked that, or he would
have thrown me out. You're gone, you are gone, You're
gone from this game.

Speaker 3 (29:42):
By the way, I did see a list last night
of the celebrities who were at the LAFC game when
they lost to Liono Messi and Miami last night. It
was a massive list of Lebron James and Leonardo DiCaprio
and Selena Gomez and Prince Harry and Megan Arkle and
Clayton Kershaw, Magic Johnson, Mookie Betts. It was a very

(30:04):
long list. The guy we're going to talk about next
segment was on that list at the game last night
and was arrested after the game. There's your teas.

Speaker 1 (30:14):
We will have more on that coming up right now.
Steve has what's tread Steve or j Leed, one of
them has what's trending in the wide world of sports.

Speaker 3 (30:22):
I don't have the chuckles or the jaw. Duke defeated
ninth right Clemson twenty eight to seven. Clemson actually led
at halftime seven to six and then got shut out
the rest of the way. The Tigers tonight had two
field goal attempts blocked, two fumbles, one interception, and two
turnovers on downs. Quarterback Riley Leonard of Duke, who had
a great year last season, opens this one with eight carries,

(30:44):
ninety eight yards rushing and a touchdown. Tonight. Rams wide
receiver Cooper Cup saw a specialist today about his injured hamstring.
At the US Open, Madison Keys swept number three seed
Jessica Pagoula six to one. Sixty three Number two Arena
Sablenka won easily. The late ballgame in the Major went
to Baltimore, beating the Angels in Anaheim six to three.
Shoheo Tani was out tonight with oblique tightness. Pittsburgh defeated

(31:07):
Milwaukee four two. Philadelphia got a win holding on nine
to seven. At San Diego, Phillies led eight to one
and the third inning Kyle Schwarber with his fortieth home run,
his batting averages up to one ninety three. The cub
shutout San Francisco five nothing. Today it was one nothing
in the seventh. Giants had just two hits in the game.
The Giants to start the day were in a four

(31:27):
way tie for the last NL wildcard spot four teams,
and the Giants had the exact same record as Miami
and Arizona. Miami's going to be hosting the Dodgers, who
were off tonight. That road trip for LA starts tomorrow.
More on the Dodgers next segment. As for the Arizona
Diamondbacks home game against Colorado and a win against the

(31:49):
Rockies four to two. The winning pitcher Merrill Kelly, with
twelve strikeouts in seven innings. Kansas City beat the White Sox.
Since Mike Armtt isn't here twelve one, the final he.

Speaker 1 (31:58):
Would have beat him twelve to one of four was
here either.

Speaker 3 (32:01):
May or may not have been mentioned. White Sox offense
with three for twenty nine. They lost to Kansas City
twelve to one. It's not just twelve to one. Period.
Kansas City, as of yesterday, became the worst team in
Major League Baseball. They had a worse record than the
A's because the A's got to play the Angels over
the weekend and kept winning. Kansas City's record is now

(32:21):
up to forty three and ninety six on the season.
White Sox record fifty three and eighty five. Cincinnati and
Houston with wins. Toronto got a ten inning victory, Boston
beat Tampa Bay seven to three, and Minnesota won its
game at Cleveland twenty to six. The Twins are first
place in the AL Central, now six games ahead of
the Guardians and the losing pitcher in Cleveland formerly of

(32:43):
the White Sox. Lucas Giolito. Boy, what a year he
is having. He allowed nine runs in three innings, including
a grand slam for Royce Lewis of the Twins. It
was the third grand slam he has hit in the
last eight games.

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Speaker 1 (34:10):
A big story out of Major League Baseball today, and
it involves Julio Urrias of the Dodgers, who the Dodgers
are counting on immensely to come through down the stretches
they go into the playoffs, and look, pitching is their
big thing, right that are?

Speaker 3 (34:24):
And the need?

Speaker 1 (34:25):
Yeah? Are they gonna have enough of it? Right? Clayton
Kershaw can't pitch every single game, Sandy Cofax is probably
only good for an inning every couple of games. But
a shocking story involving Urias Tonight, who was arrested on
felony domestic violence charges late last night. This is the
second domestic violence arrest in the past four years. He

(34:47):
was arrested just after eleven o'clock PM, booked into jail
and released later on and as a court date of
September twenty seventh. Now it's four years ago that there
were witnesses that saw him push woman down at one
of the malls here, and I want to say it
was the Beverly Center, Yes, that he was at. MLB
suspended him for twenty games and never went to trial. Okay,

(35:11):
that's the one you get, right, this is the one
you get. Now you have Fellowy domestic violence and arrest
while leaving BMO Stadium. Not only do I not expect
him to ever play for the Dodgers again, I don't
even think it's it's even gonna be a question anymore.
You have his court date not coming up till the

(35:32):
end of September twenty seventh. You saw what they did
with Trevor Bauer. They ate a lot of money to
sit him and say you are not going to pitch
for the Dodgers again. And he had to go play
overseas and found all kinds of difficulties.

Speaker 3 (35:43):
There would have been a clubhouse revolt if they brought
Bauer back.

Speaker 1 (35:46):
Yeah, And the same thing you're looking at for Arius
now this is I don't see how you do after
a second domestic violent situation. I don't see how you
do it. But the Dodgers do things the right way,
and you know, it's not like you have to suspend
all you have to send him down. It's he just
we don't weirdly, you're not gonna play. You are not
gonna play for us around then you hit free agency

(36:09):
and then good luck, you'll be somebody else's issue, because
this is not this is you're talking about being arrested
for suspicion of felony domestic violence. You were arrested, not
there was not there was a call, not there was this,
not there was a report. This was you were arrested
and you were released on bond of fifty thousand dollars
on Monday morning. Uh yeah, I don't see him. I

(36:30):
don't see him pitching again the rest of this year,
whether it's just common sense or the Dodgers and what
they've done and how they have handled the situation like
this in the past.

Speaker 3 (36:39):
And keep in mind, this is a Dodger team that
this year, at one point we mentioned how pitching is
a need, had ten pitchers on the injured list. At
the same time, They've been short of pitching all year,
so often they've had a fifth spot in the rotation
go to somebody up from the miners who has no
business being in the major leagues yet. But they just
didn't have a fifth pitcher aside from the needs in

(37:00):
the bullpen that they've had. And yet you've got Orias,
who I thought probably wouldn't be re signed already after
his contract ran out this year. Now I know it,
and they've already said that he's not at the start
of this road trip. Dodgers begin a series in Miami tomorrow.
You mentioned he has a court date at the end
of September, So that's an obvious question. Is gonna be
He's he gonna be pitching at all for the Dodgers

(37:22):
this month? And if he doesn't pick, is he.

Speaker 1 (37:24):
Supposed to pitch tomorrow? Is he supposed to pitch?

Speaker 3 (37:27):
I think I assume, yeah, I assume he's regular rotation. Yeah, exactly.
So if he's not pitching this month and he's not
pitching in the playoffs, right, And this is so sad
on so many levels, the human level first and foremost.
But keep in mind the context. This was going to
be one of the great Dodger pitchers of the last
few decades, to add to the list of great pitchers

(37:47):
because he was found by the same scout who found
Fernando Alanzuela in Mexico, brought him here. He had the
eye surgeries of kids. You see the goggles glasses that
he has to wear. Juli Orrias still makes the major
leagues through all of that. Before age twenty as a teenager,
he's on the mound and succeeding, and yet had a

(38:07):
huge shoulder injury and a major operation that cost him
the twenty seventeen World Series and therefore the following season
he missed the twenty eighteen World Series. What has he
done since then? Phenomenal the last four or five years
on the mound until this year. You remember when the
Dodgers won the World Series twenty twenty, who was their
closer in the postseason at the end?

Speaker 1 (38:27):
Was it was Julio Rilos the two biggest games that
with the pressured amounted, he closed the NLCSNY closed the
World Series.

Speaker 3 (38:34):
And he had been a phenomenal starting pitcher every round,
undefeated and winds up closing to win the World Series.
And how does he follow that up twenty game winner
the next year to lead the league? How does he
follow that up led the league in the era last year.
So you got a guy who's ERA was two point
one six last year, it's more than double that this year,
four point six to zero. He's had twenty four home

(38:56):
runs allowed in only twenty one starts. It's by fall,
his worst year, and it's going into his contract year.
This was going to be at the age of twenty
six twenty seven, the moment that he sets up generations
of his family for life, because that year he was
in the World Series, he was making one million dollars.
This was going to be many, many times that this

(39:18):
was all for him heading into this year, and now
the whole year's gone in the crapper.

Speaker 1 (39:24):
Now before you say, well, if he's got a court
date coming up, he's still going to pitch. The Dodgers
need him, they'll need him for the planet. That's not
how the Dodgers do it. I mean, you saw what
they did with with Trevor Bauer. There was a lot
of blowback of whoa can you well, you're still waiting,
you're still trying to figure out what the charges are,
and they said, you're just not going to play for us.

(39:44):
And they took all the all the attention, all of
the questions and you're just not going to play, and
then we wait for the suspension apparently not Thursday.

Speaker 3 (39:53):
To answer your question, Thursday was supposed to be his
spot in the rotation, which is currently listed as to
be determined.

Speaker 1 (40:00):
Yeah, I have no doubt the Dodgers are gonna do
the do the smart thing and say, you know what, Yeah,
you're you're not gonna pitch. You'll be on administrative leave
or or something. You'll be on on the some kind
of exempt list. However it's gonna be. But he's done
and he's not gonna pitch with them again. I don't
know how they'll do it with his salary. I don't know.
Will they straight pay him, will they just say you're
not around the team? Will they suspend? I mean, I

(40:21):
don't know, because by the time you get to the
end of the regular sea, you're talking about any seventh there.

Speaker 3 (40:26):
It's only five games, it's only four weeks of salary
pro rated to finish the regular season, and it's only
half the salary that he's gonna make or would have
made starting next year with somebody.

Speaker 1 (40:36):
So yeah, there goes Julio Arius, and you wonder, now,
what's gonna happen to him if it, maybe he's thrown
his last pitch. You don't know how this is gonna go,
and who knows, and maybe he's already thrown his last
pitch in his MLB career. Twitter at how about a fresca?
Jason Smith Steve To saying you're in. From Mike Harmon
tonight we got more baseball next hour because we had
Shoyotunni's agent jump in with some big news tonight. But

(40:58):
straight ahead we talk about the biggest upset in college football.
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