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September 19, 2024 42 mins

On tonight’s edition of The Jason Smith Show with Mike Harmon, Jason and Mike open the show by examining the Bears and QB Caleb Williams' slow start to the season, debating what lies ahead for the Chicago team. Next, the hosts react to Adrian Wojnarowski’s retirement from ESPN as he takes on the role of general manager for the men's basketball program at St. Bonaventure, discussing the challenges NBA insiders face in their daily lives. Finally, the guys share their thoughts on the Texans QB CJ Stroud "lil broing" Bears QB Caleb Williams after the game in Week 2. Tune in for an action-packed hour!

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:23):
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Speaker 1 (00:28):
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(00:50):
need to mention big happen with something big happen. We
need to do this. Uh you know, hey, you just
heard Brian Finley say it about forty five seconds ago. Congratulations,
the Milwaukee Bucks have won the NL Central again first
last four years. Got Yanna yanis three for four tonight
with a home run in the game.

Speaker 3 (01:12):
Yeah, they ended up the Brewers bucked. Got to make
sure I say that B word instead, and it is yeah,
four or two to one against the Phillies, so you
can actually use buck as a verb, which I was
trying to do.

Speaker 4 (01:26):
Didn't exactly work out.

Speaker 1 (01:27):
Didn't They didn't they? I thought? I thought I saw
that they poured gatorade over Doc River's head and everything
at the end when they clinched it.

Speaker 4 (01:33):
That wasn't really they do that when he loses.

Speaker 1 (01:35):
Okay, all right, let's just get it over with, Okay, alright,
and then he moves to his next town.

Speaker 3 (01:41):
But I also wanted to mention guys that the Padres.
I know, Jason, you're talking about your mets. The Padres.
I just looked at the standings. They have a better record,
and they are in a better place in the wildcart
positioning over your mets.

Speaker 4 (01:53):
How do you feel about that?

Speaker 1 (01:55):
Do you like coming on the show when I when
I bring you on? Did we bring you on to
do stuff? Do you want to continue to do that?

Speaker 4 (02:01):
I'll see if my mom allows me.

Speaker 1 (02:03):
Okay, hi, mom.

Speaker 4 (02:06):
Looking forward to toalk with you guys more here, Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:09):
All right, all right, Brian Fenley will speak to you
in a half hour. Whatever we can g any reference. Mom. Yeah, no,
that's true. And look, hey, and I expect the Padres
when you have the umpires cheating for you like you
did last night in that game that was pretty good.

Speaker 4 (02:22):
Hey yeah, whatever money can do that, that's all.

Speaker 1 (02:24):
Wow, Brian, Wow, that's a that's a that's a scoop
right there. Padres fan admits umpires cheating for his team.
And it's a picture of Fendley with a tennis racket
U C l A.

Speaker 5 (02:36):
I remember he did not have his fedora with the
press sign when he made that comment.

Speaker 1 (02:44):
Thank you, Brian Fenley. I look forward to more of
your updates and more of your Padres talk.

Speaker 4 (02:49):
I look forward to talking with you guys at the
bottom of the hour.

Speaker 1 (02:51):
Thank you. Look forward to you here and uh you know,
and I also want to say this because now I
don't know the Brewers. Look, the brew is when the
Central third time in four years, apparently they don't need
David Stearns.

Speaker 5 (03:05):
Don't need Greg Counsel everything. What they did to Jackson
Turio under age. Yeah, so they put a baby carrier
that with a non alcoholic beer and a bobblehead and whatever.

Speaker 1 (03:17):
Wow, that was that was that was a bit much,
but good, good job by the Yeah. No, And I
want to say this, I don't know the Brewers schedule
off the top of my head, but now that they've
clinched the NL Central the last series of the year,
I don't think they should play any starters. I mean,
you don't really need to play starters the last three
games of the year. You know, play a little bit
the next the next few days, let's have some fun
with it.

Speaker 2 (03:37):
You got the h.

Speaker 1 (03:38):
Yeah, no, you don't need to play your starters the
last three games. You got four against the Diamondbacks starting tomorrow. Yeah.
Then you got three against the Pirates, Yes, play them
there too, that's fine, and then three against you. Oh really,
I didn't know that. Oh we finished with the Brewers
on Really.

Speaker 5 (03:52):
I think I think you just didn't know the other
seven or maybe you had the order inverted or something
to that degree.

Speaker 1 (03:59):
Oh really, I didn't know that. I'm surprised. Well shock, Wait,
that's how we end the season. Who would have known? All, right,
remaining schedule major League? No, you didn't even fake that. Well,
you actually have the worst yeah, strength of scheduling against
the Phillies. Then we have the Braves, which will wind
up probably settling everything, and then three against the Brewers.

Speaker 5 (04:19):
Five to seventy five, winning percentage for you. Meanwhile, on
the other end of the spectrum Dodgers twenty eighth, the
Padres nine games left, three against the Dodgers, three against
the Diamondbacks, and three against you guessed it, the White Socks.

Speaker 1 (04:36):
Just like they say in Hamilton, winning is easy, governing
is harder. Beating the Nationals is easy. Beating everybody else's harder.
That's what's gonna be. But we have two NFL stars
that are feeling a bit of lament for their actions
this past lamentation. Yeah, you know, you didn't think we
get a Wednesday lament and Ubi sunned. Maybe that's a

(04:57):
new bit Wednesday's lamentation lamentations. It's that like Tuesdays with
Maury Wednesday's lamentations. I remember I was in fourth grade
redber Ubi sunt is that that's a lament and it
was always stuck with me.

Speaker 5 (05:09):
And then we get a random Walt appearance once in
a while, once once the Yankees are eliminated.

Speaker 1 (05:14):
In early October, two NFL stars feeling lament lamentatious lamentiousness,
lament tonin lamented, but just say sorry. They're feeling bad. Sorry, sorry, sorry.
So they're feeling sorry for their coach and their organization.
Uh remember the organizing the organization.

Speaker 6 (05:33):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (05:33):
Two big high profile plays that players say they feel
bad for. Drake London today expressed remorse for his gun
celebration at the end of the game against the Eagles,
which nearly almost forced overtime because he made Young Wayco's
extra point attempt from forty eight yards. No, he added
a degree of difficulty. Ah, And I'm glad he said

(05:54):
that because Look, here's the thing about about celebrations, and
it's really easy calling Jalen hurts the delay a game.
That's stupid, Right, that's stupid. Everybody celebrates everything. What are
we doing just when you celebrate? Don't use guns. I
think that's pretty simple. I think the NFL, I'm sure
can find the way to look the different way and

(06:14):
look the other way, and a lot of things don't
use guns. Yes, could they loosen up more and stuff
like Jalen Hurts, Yeah, but dude, don't use guns.

Speaker 5 (06:20):
You do have to give a little bit of love
to the br team that gave Raheem Morris that excuse.

Speaker 1 (06:28):
Oh no, it was a T shirt gun. Yeah, T
shirt gun. Yeah, it was a T shirt shirt because
we could tell it's like you know, inferring tone and
whether sarcasm is existent in a tweet or sometimes in
what we say to me, just because he had it
over his shoulder and he pointed up to the audience
and he held the T shirt gun and he did
the one movement. Now, if he'd done a full Kelsey
Plumb and just pretended like she was throwing it into

(06:50):
the third deck and Drake Gloni did that, then everything's good. Instead,
you do that motion, I mean you leave them no recourse. Yeah, no,
I look, don't use guns, all right, that's pretty easy.
And your number one receiver, DJ Moore apologized for his
actions on Sunday, very very public display potentially of his

(07:14):
emotions following really bad offensive play by the Bears late
in their loss of the text, and specifically one play
where he was open with about nine minutes left and
Caleb Williams through a horrendous pass. He lays on the ground,
he gets up and he walks off the field. It
looks ats bad body language, bad body language when he's
sitting on the bench. It was pointed out by the

(07:34):
cameras and I get well, he said, listen, that's just
how I'm sitting on the bench. That I can understand, Like, Okay,
you're sitting on how you're sitting is how you sit.
I'm okay with that. But you know, the whole laying
on the ground being upset. He understands that this is
not going to reflect well and people are going to
insinuate what this means towards my teammate and Caleb Williams,

(07:55):
who had a really rough game. It was a really
bad night for the offense. So I'm glad he took
ownership of that because that's a leader who realizes, Okay,
in the grand scheme of things, would anybody blame me
for being upset to hey, come on, I'm open, get
me the ball, and oh my goodness, we can't throw
the ball more than ten yards downfield and our offensive
line can't protect our quarterback. But feeling the leadership of saying, hey,

(08:16):
not who I am, not what I meant, we have
all the confidence in the world in kleb bar offense.
You know, great stuff by him, And I'm telling you Mike.
I feel I still feel great about the Bears. I
know last week was bad, but look as bad as
it was offensively, you still have a chance to win
the game and a final drive. Everything is good because
the Bears defense is fantastic and I can't say enough

(08:38):
about it. But it's a topic that people just seem
to blow off all the Bears. Yeah, we're spending a
lot of time on Caleb Williams's number one picking the draft,
But if you're talking about how the success of the
Bears are gonna go, you saw how good their defense
was against one of the best offense in the NFL.
How do you stop all those all those players they
have on offense right here, stopping Diggs and you're trying

(08:59):
to stop Collins, trying to stop Tank Dell. Oh, by
the way, you're trying to stop CJ. Stroud, who's gonna
find the right receiver. And they had pressure on him
and they forced him to be uncomfortable during the entire night.
They played an unbelievable game. You're not gonna play a
team with that kind of offensive firepower every week. So
while Caleb Williams is still getting it, the Bears defense
is gonna carry things. And I'm telling you he's not

(09:21):
on the Bryce Young curve of whatever it is. He's
really a lot like Jordan Love where he jumps in
last year, even after having a couple of years to
get it done. You need to do things for the while.
You need quarterbacks need to get out there and see,
this is what I can get away with, this is
what I can't get away with him. Caleb Williams is
learning that when he gets outside the pocket and throws deep,
that's why they didn't throw deep a lot. So he's

(09:43):
going to get that. He's going to learn that. As
he learns that, by the time we get to me,
there's gonna be rough weeks. We're gonna say maybe Caleb
Williams isn't great. Maybe, And all of a sudden, by
week seven, eight nine, suddenly he's gonna string a few
games together and it's, oh, wait, this guy's really good. Now,
all of a sudden, he's a number one pick for
a reason. He's got all the talent in the world.
Guys need to play to figure it out. And as
you see the track record of top ten overall picks

(10:06):
quarterback wise, it takes a little bit to get used
to it. By the time we get to the mid
season point, it's going to be Wow, the Bears are
really in a great spot because here's a peaking Caleb
Williams and the defense is fantastic, and watch out for
the Bears. I still love the Bears, but I am
not off of them at all after last week. See
now I want to bury the Texans. They couldn't figure
it out. It's a one score game against a team

(10:26):
with no offense. What how do you like? That? Is
that good? Right?

Speaker 5 (10:30):
When we look at the Bears, there's a couple of
things after watching the first couple of weeks. Obviously, there's
the timing issue. Getting the throws are an accuracy for
Caleb Williams, learning game speed, adjusting from having guys that
are running pretty free in the defensive secondary. And every
time you do an extra twist an extra turn to

(10:52):
escape a little bit of pressure at USC the next
guy wasn't there. Guess what the pros they are, so
you don't get to reset your feet and push the
ball downfield.

Speaker 1 (11:03):
So those are learning.

Speaker 5 (11:04):
Curves, taking a little bit of pressure off of what
is a subpar offensive line. This is where some of
the debate after two weeks is getting to and it's
no indictment of Roma Dunes at all. It's more just
a should they have invested that ninth pick in an
offensive lineman like the Chargers did taking Joe Walt, So
you know you've got this alternate universe going on. And

(11:26):
then the DJ Moore, let's read his lips as he
walks along the bench after that missed opportunity along the
sideline That all swirls the Stroud and Caleb Williams post
game back and forth, where Stroud's trying to help him
out and talk to him, and he looks like he'd
rather be anywhere else in the world. Look, man, just
guy just lost a one possession game and he knows

(11:48):
if he's better on one throw, they probably win it.

Speaker 1 (11:51):
Right, So the frustration is there.

Speaker 5 (11:53):
I wouldn't hold that as a personal attack on Caleb
Williams of some Chicago are and certainly nashly jumping up
and down wherever they can, but to help that offensive line,
the fact that they haven't used Khalil Herbert and Roshan
Johnson on early downs to try to just get a
hard nose between the tackle back to go get four

(12:13):
yards on first down, We're going to force the ball
to DeAndre Swift and they're ready for it.

Speaker 1 (12:19):
Right. He loves to dance. Yeah, like the other teams.
I think the other teams feel like, hey, we know
what the Bears are going to try to do. They're
going to try to give Caleb Williams some really manageable
second and third downs. So what's the best way to
do it on the early downs? Get it to DeAndre Swift.
Get try to get it to him in space where
he can gain a few yards and sudden you're looking
at second and five. But I think teams are ready

(12:41):
for that, Like he's he damns too.

Speaker 5 (12:43):
Much in that, Like there's times where he's going to
be able to juke to the outside and give you
a big play first and ten when you're calling a run.
Guess what on first and ten every time, like, hey,
guess what? Swifts getting the ball right, and that it's
been predictable in the play calling from Waldron thus far,
and some old videos of Seahawks players have emerged kind

(13:05):
of talking about good luck with that. So the curiosity,
because I'm with you, I think there's fine. There's still
plenty of road ahead. And plenty of games that are
gettable because the defense, barring any mass injuries or somebody
figuring out devising the scheme to neutrals, You've got two
guys that are probably gonna be Pro bowlers at cornerback,
and whenever you can base your defense there, you're in

(13:28):
a pretty good way in this man's NFL. Gab Williams
will get it, just a matter of time, as long
as that offensive line can keep them up right.

Speaker 1 (13:36):
Tell me, man, I loved that nothing has changed. I
thought I picked him last week, and you know they
covered so that. Yeah, I thought they were gonna win
on the field. They almost did. I said, wow, if
they pull this game out here in this final drive,
and then obviously they didn't. But as bad as it was,
they still had that change.

Speaker 5 (13:53):
Folks really thought at Dodger Stadium. I loved Sheryl Crow's
version of the first cut is the Deepest so much
by my excitement reacting to that game.

Speaker 1 (14:03):
Why is that guy yelling yelling at his phone? Yeah,
I think he's He must be watching the Bears. Oh okay,
now I get it. First cut is the deep you learned,
as you learned on Sunday, The first cut is the deepest.
But but I'm telling you have nothing to worry. It's
gonna be fine. It's a good feeling. You're in the era.

(14:25):
It's a long run.

Speaker 5 (14:26):
And and I and I say this, and and I
meant this, and I did this in the preseason analysis
and we talked about it. If you were to rank
back back up quarterbacks, nice of beasion probably ranks as
a top ten guy in the current NFL where we're
at in quarterbacking. So I don't like the drop off
is still gonna be there to a degree. But he
showed he can play last year, so you know, Caleb Williams,

(14:49):
not that they're gonna Bryce young him, because I saw
that suggestion today a j which is just.

Speaker 1 (14:54):
You're one and what You're fine.

Speaker 5 (14:55):
It's not like, you know, like you one and one
with a very winnable game this year this week against
a quarterback who looks at it awful, like not like
the guy you're running out look.

Speaker 1 (15:05):
And then there were more expectations, obviously because Caleb coming
in and sure additions the Bears made and how good
the defense was gonna be. But this is kind of
how rookie quarterbacks play.

Speaker 5 (15:14):
But it was also Hey, the Bears have a guy.
How many times? Hey, they haven't had a four thousand?

Speaker 2 (15:21):
Like?

Speaker 1 (15:21):
This is the he is gonna fix it all. It's
the Bears are just fied. Era of good feeling, Buddy,
Era of good feeling. I like eras, let's go. That
means there's some time to it. Jason Smith Mike Harmon
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Speaker 1 (17:56):
My head hurts from just moving it side to side,
like in the bit.

Speaker 5 (17:59):
Do I think your next strong enough? I think you
need to start doing some neck exercises. I felt like
my eyes were gonna fall out of my head. There
I was Wow.

Speaker 1 (18:07):
Fox Sports Radio The Jason Smith Show with my best
friend Mike Harmon live from the tirerac Dot com Studios,
and we had a big I should say retirement because
that's really what it was. Today. The sports world shocked
and stunned me. I'm sure it's stunned a lot of people. Sure,

(18:27):
Adrian Woljanowski will no longer be an NBA insider. He
is retiring from television, the ESPN insider. Who look, he's
been the best NBA insider for years. There's other great
guys coming up younger behind him, a friend of the show,
Chris Haynes, Shams Trania. Obviously, we have Rick bucheron, but
Rick is more of a content guy. He's an insider,
reporter and a content driver. But like you know, Woj

(18:50):
had all the big news. Woj always broke out. We
have the woje bombs at you know, ten eleven o'clock
at night. Hey, look, Woja had something. But he's retiring.
He's got twenty million dollars left on his deal with ESPN.
He is issueing that to become the general manager of
the basketball program at Saint Bonaventure College and now, and

(19:11):
I know Saint Bonaventure because it's not very far from Syracuse.
We used to play them once a year. My dad's
best friend went to Saint Bonaventure. Yeah, and I call
him the Bones. They're all there, they're the Bonnies. He
is left and to become the GM at Saint Bonaventure,
which is his alma mater. And I'm glad we can
call it GM now because listen with a there's no
more line blurred between kids getting paid every time. Listen,

(19:32):
we could call you the general manager. It's fine, You're
me the GM. You're the president of basketball Operations. You're
the C. It's from we don't you don't need to
be oh, director of players service it. No, no, no,
you're you're the general manager of the basketball director of development. No no,
I'm a GM now. Yeah.

Speaker 7 (19:47):
No.

Speaker 5 (19:47):
So the mascot is the Bonna Wolf and the fight
song is unfurled. The brown and white that just said,
is this where he lays down his phone like when
I a wrestler has his last match, he leaves his.

Speaker 1 (20:02):
Boots in the ring. It just leaves.

Speaker 7 (20:07):
You.

Speaker 1 (20:07):
It's just buzzing as he's walking and grab him to
not answer it, like Michael Bolton Off. They have to
hold him. Don't answer your phone. This is not who
you are anymore. Woes send him let it ring. I'm
sure they'll call Chams next. Don't worry that someone else.

Speaker 5 (20:23):
Is there one more time to a fax machine like
I saw this news and like the tributes and the
tear phone Like if look, you're sad that your colleague's
walking away, that's I get that, right, A guy you've
worked with, you've been in the trenches with, You've exchanged
these messages, right, first sore, second source, Hey, I'm hearing
this corroboration, all of that stuff, commiseration over the slog.

Speaker 1 (20:46):
That is the job. But the number of tributes that
started sounding like we lost him right that woes was
no longer with us. It got to be a bit
much like because it's very abrupt and all of us.
Jowski went from hey is he gonna break?

Speaker 5 (21:03):
Hey, I'm done now he gave us the Korro news
and then he dipped.

Speaker 1 (21:07):
Now the breaking news is gonna be Hey, our point
guard Billy missed English today, so he may not be
able to play in the game. He's been n IDL
money in kangaroo court. He missed. He he missed Miss
Wilson's class on Wednesday, So I don't know if we
had to take away his uh, car right away. I mean,
and that's I understand that part because now he's not
going to be a part of what we do. Like

(21:29):
I said, he's just not gonna be a part like
that's it, and didn't there's no warning about it. There
was no I'm going to leave. This is just oh yeah,
I'm I'm the uh the general manager of the basketball
Well he didn't want to get scooped by Chams Champs
has it out woes retiring to be I mean, he
might have a mole inside of the Bonnies organization there,

(21:52):
or is Sham's doing the normal Shams thing, which is
I look and see a breaking news story and then
the second after it's tweeted out, I tweeted out like
I had it well yeah, like.

Speaker 5 (22:02):
Well, but I mean, that's that's that's my larger thing
to this, and and I appreciate. Look figure out a
way into our business or whatever business and.

Speaker 1 (22:11):
Find your Nietzsche Niche.

Speaker 5 (22:13):
However we're gonna say it and in the right situation
and try to grow it. And in this case a
lot of people are wringing their hands over him walking
away from his dollars. All right, if he signed a
thirty five million dollar deal and he left twenty million
on the table. How much did Woes get in this contract,
Jason Smith?

Speaker 1 (22:34):
Look in this contract. He's been getting paid to do
this a long time.

Speaker 5 (22:38):
And it's not like he was earning like he was
an intern unpaid until this deal. All right, you've shown
proof of concept for twenty five years. Congratulations. Yeah, he's
thirty five million dollars. He's not getting paid in sandwiches.
It's not you know, it's it's not the it's not
the show.

Speaker 1 (22:52):
Hao tani oh. But in ten years, when you retire,
then we'll start giving you fifty million.

Speaker 5 (22:57):
Unfortunately for him, he also had fifty million coming in
for endorsements.

Speaker 1 (23:00):
But you know, and and and look, and I get it,
and I understand it because look, woe just fifty five.
And everybody gets to that point in their life when
you understand that, Okay, what do I have left? What
do I want to do with the rest of the time.
I have my fastball, Because everybody wants to retire at
some point and be done and just sit and watch
TV and go to the movies and go to trivia

(23:22):
night and all that kind of stuff. Everybody gets to
that point, like, look, like I'm I'm fifty.

Speaker 5 (23:27):
Trivia nights, so that trivia nights that kind of became
very localized and centralized to the wants and needs of
adjacent I always I.

Speaker 1 (23:34):
Always see myself at the end, like like like traveling
across the country to different trivia nights, Like who is
that guy that came in that time and just knew
everything about the nineteen sixty nine mets. He was never
saw him again, he was out, he was in his
pictures on the wall. And then the really hot one
bartender goes, if he ever comes back around this way again,
I'll be waiting. I'll if you ever come back around. Man,

(23:54):
that was impressive. But uh no, but look, but you
get to that point. And we talked about this on
National Rate a couple of weeks ago, like I know,
I have less radio in front of me than I
do behind you, right sure, and and at I'm fifty three,
and I say, okay, what do I want to do?
And this is this is you know, you joke around
about you know, retiring Bobby Benia day, you know, the

(24:16):
final Bobby da day in twenty thirty five, which a
long way away. So you know, everybody gets that point
where you thinking about, Okay, what do I want to
do with the rest of mind? Do I want to
keep doing what I'm doing? Do I want to do
something else? And some things it's easier to say I
really like what I'm doing, I want to keep doing it,
and other things. It's more difficult when you are beholden

(24:39):
to your phone every minute of the day. You can't
miss a phone call, you can't let something go to voicemail.
You always ad whether you are in a meeting with
your kids teacher, where you are in a movie, you
have to be able to answer that phone and you
have to know. Look, Jay Glazer has told us about
what it's like for being an inside. I mean, look
the life that Jay has, all the things he's able

(25:01):
to do, but he is beholden to that phone every
second of the day. And you know, Woj is the
same way, because when an insider stops breaking stuff, he
doesn't know when someone's going to call him to say, hey,
guess what, Luke is retiring and he's going to play
in a European league. Oh, I couldn't get you with that,
so I called Chris Haynes, or I called Chams with it.
Whatever it is he's fifty five, and he got to

(25:22):
the point, I'm sure where he said, what do I
want to do? Could I keep doing this? This is
a younger person's game, And eventually the younger people are
going to come in who are in their thirties and forties,
and they have a little bit more energy than I do,
a little bit more beholden to social media. They know
the new way they're making friends with the new up
and coming gms and the new people. You have to
be from them players, right or with the players at

(25:45):
this point, like what's going on in the line and
the new agent's coming in, these are who they go to.
So not that he was going to get booted out,
because if the guy was still the top of his game.
But there's other stuff I want to do, and I
can see the end of the road a little bit.
And oh, I get to go back to my alma
mater and run the basketball program. Yeah, I'm gonna go
do that as much as I love you. If Syracuse

(26:05):
called me and said, hey, this fran Brown isn't working out,
Like what do you mean? We're two and oh and
Kyle McCord's gon win the Heisman. It's not working out.
Can you come run the football program? Yeah? Sure, I like.
I have four plays that I've designed. Here's here, and
we're gonna use them all in the first game. Ready,
here we go.

Speaker 5 (26:19):
One of one of them is hail Mary, and Brown'll
never see it coming on first down in our first position.
Hell Mary, on the first they're never gonna see it coming.

Speaker 1 (26:28):
Well, just think about it because you put three guys
down there. There's only three other guys down there defensively, but.

Speaker 5 (26:34):
Think of I've ben a chance again, But think about
that if you did that on a first down?

Speaker 1 (26:38):
What if every play was a Hail Mary? You figure?

Speaker 5 (26:40):
Okay, now we're just going back to the way we
used to play. Video games are strata maatic football.

Speaker 1 (26:44):
What's my better way of getting down the field? I
string together twelve plays or I throw one play and
I get all the way. Well, but if I do.

Speaker 5 (26:53):
It three times in this man's NFL, I might get
the pass interference call that gives me a seventy three
yard nalty.

Speaker 1 (27:00):
No, but so I get. So I understand, and obviously
you'll look, his health is really good because he's leaving
for an opportunity that he wants to I look I
understand completely where he's coming from. You know, now though
it's another it's another weird thing for me, and it's
actually better for you because what if I said this
entire offseason and he got leave to get Wisconsin Green

(27:21):
Bay into the NCAA Tournament, and I need JJ Reddick
to get the Lakers in the top six. That happens.
Suddenly I could manage the Mets, or I could be
the head coach of the Jets, because you know, Robert
sala is the one who's on the thinnest ice. All
of a sudden, the rest of my teams are good.
We have a good general manager and manager with the Mets.
The Knicks are great, like okay, the Jets are the team.
So if I get you know, Gottlieb Media to coach, okay,

(27:44):
he wins great, JJ Reddick media to coach. Okay, now
here's woj Media the general manager. He gets the Bonnies
in the tournament. Suddenly I could be the head coach
of the Jets. Wait, this guy really knows what he's
talking about. We talked about He's talked about his Hail
Mary plays. He's got the great fake field goal play.
This guy can come be are head coach. I could
not talk to Aaron Rodgers and give really vacuous statements.

(28:04):
I could do what Robert Salad does. I can celebrate
when somebody makes a big play defensively, and I can
look really sell them and forlorn and we don't do
something good on offense. I can do all the things
he does already, and I'd be better at it. So
the only thing you can't do is run the stairs. No,
why would I do that? I would say, why would
I spend my energy running the stairs when I could
be watching All twenty two film, or going over the

(28:25):
defensive play with Jeff Elbrick, or or going over the
offensive plan with Aaron Rodgers and making sure Nathaniel Hackett
knows the signals? Should we get the video of you
flipping people off that watch the All twenty two.

Speaker 2 (28:36):
I's been an.

Speaker 5 (28:37):
Obsession for you thus far this year, the last couple
of weeks, it's come on a couple of times.

Speaker 1 (28:41):
I watched the All twenty two. But now I need
that because now I need all three things to happen.
Like if all three things, that extends my case makes
my case bigg sure. But if two things happen in
one don't, then it's well, maybe guys in the media
can do it. Maybe they can. But if all three
things happen, man, I am in man I could take
over before the end of the season.

Speaker 5 (29:02):
Either that or because your teams are good, as you've
suggested previously, maybe it becomes an opportunity for me.

Speaker 2 (29:09):
Stink.

Speaker 1 (29:09):
That's you had to see. That's why it's better for you,
because really, of all my teams, right like, okay, so
Syracuse football team is in a great place. Basketball team
looks like it's in a pretty good place. The Mets
are in a good place, The Knicks are in a
good place, the Jets, you all your teams. Still the Bears, oh,
I love the Bears, but still you could be the
head coach. I mean, I don't know I can grow

(29:30):
as good a beard as as Eberflee. And they want
to get rid of him. Come on, they don't want
to trust got pictures of Harball back in Chicago. We
should have gone. You don't want to trust him with
this offense, and Caleb Williams they want to would trust you.
The White Sox are absolutely terrible. Okay, The Blackhawks stink.
The Bulls stink. Northwestern stinkin sure, they do, they do,

(29:54):
they stink. Come on, what are they gonna do? What
are they gonna administratively? I had I.

Speaker 5 (30:00):
In Illinois and they always lose the duke, by the way,
and they gave that game away. We were watching it
on air together, and those are two smart football. There
were a couple of times where you know, I had
to hit the mute button.

Speaker 1 (30:10):
Yeah, but I mean you like, are you there? But
you're you're there. It's like, can't comment right now currently cursing.
You could go anywhere though any of your teams you
have you have it is a harmon market from mom.
It's like it's the Jets or nothing right now. But
for you, like anybody anybody would take you would be great.
This is such a big deal. I feel like it's
almost like, hey, my time passed, like I missed my window.

(30:33):
But it's open for you now. Folks keep saying, hey,
you should come home, you should come work in Chicago. Okay,
So you wouldn't have to look over and look at
me anymore either. So that's a weird for me. And
I could text you, idea, Hey, what we should do this? Instead? Hey,
can I still do the show, dude, run run my hail,
Mary play what's wrong with you? Just run the hail man.

Speaker 5 (30:53):
We got the card that literally has the diagram of
the play because we had it on a whiteboard for
you and it was in the corner of the studio.

Speaker 1 (31:02):
Here comes Northwestern Athletic director Mike Harmon. He's calling the
opening play for the Wildcats. Pretty sweet though. Time out Wisconson.
They want to talk it over. Hey man, they're taking
Wisconsin on this week. They got Washington. Yeah, there you go,
good luck, good luck.

Speaker 5 (31:18):
There a lot of the derisive commentary coming out of Washington.

Speaker 1 (31:24):
Well, it's ignoring a lot of stuff. There's a lot
of there's a lot of uhh, T birds versus the
what was the other group in Greece? The crater Face
was let's just go jets show it. No no, no,
no no, But it was the T birds. And then
what was it crater Face when he had the he
had the lightning thing coming out of his car. This

(31:44):
whole place is an old pawkin's own crater Face. What
was what was his what was his gang? Was creater
Face's gang? Who is he? Who is he?

Speaker 5 (31:53):
Birds in the Scorpions yea, the scorpions. Yeah, there's a
lot of tea. But I just like that you got
the word crater face out through I don't know.

Speaker 1 (32:01):
The guys he was with. What's the damn that crater face.
I'll give you a nickel for everything, including the girl. Uh,
I mean that. I like that you changed it to girl.
It's kind of That's what he says, including is it
the girl or not? He says no because because he
used the term does he no? He says he's no,
he says girl because it's Kinicki and Rizzo and they're

(32:22):
in grease lightning before it's grease lightning. Is I'll give
you a quoter for the whole thing, including the girl.
She's like, hey, then she goes to the dance with
the guy. I mean, come on, well, but like, but
there's a whole big thing, man, there's a whole other
thing going on. No, no, no, but that's what I mean.
Like in the Big ten now with the with the
with the Pac ten teams pack twelve teams coming in
like the Heritage Heroage Big ten Teams, Like there's a

(32:44):
lot of posturing going on now this week couple of
huge guys and the tea Birds and the Scorpions. I
like that cracker face. Takes more than a can of
paint to make it a thunder road. One of my
favorite quotes of all time. That was pretty good. I
used to hear you a quick story. I always say
this when whenever I was coaching my daughter's with a

(33:05):
soccer or softball, and said, and the one thing I
could always sell them was that, listen, it doesn't matter
how a team warms up. Right, Sometimes a team warms
up and they look like they're world beaters, and then
you go, wow, I don't know what happened. Don't worry
about how they warm up. And I would always say
the same thing to them. I would always they would
always say wow, they and I would say, it takes
more than a can of paint to make it a
thunder road. Right. That was that was my whole thing.

(33:25):
And then that was all they say. What do I
always saying? They would all say it takes more than
a can of paint to make it a thunder road.
It was like, all right, you get it now, you understand.
See they warmed up good. Yeah, they look great hitting
in the cage. Look what happened when they got out there.
They orderline building a colt. They couldn't do it. By
the way, who didn't love stock or Channing? Come on,

(33:46):
I got so many hickeys on my people right now,
let's find out what's trending in the wide world of sports.
From Brian Fenn.

Speaker 2 (33:53):
Have you ever had a hickey?

Speaker 4 (33:54):
I mean, I can't even imagine it.

Speaker 1 (33:56):
Y a hickey from Kinicky's like a calling card. They
care enough to send the very best.

Speaker 4 (34:01):
I feel like that's some song from t Paint or.

Speaker 1 (34:03):
Something right from Green from the script. Do you know
how much grease? I know way too much.

Speaker 3 (34:11):
I was in a middle school play and did that.
But yeah, I did.

Speaker 1 (34:15):
You get to sing beauty school A little drop out.

Speaker 3 (34:17):
I didn't have a very good voice, Mike. Ever since
my voice dropped. It just I just lost it boom,
And it's crazy like sometimes like I remember one day
I was singing and all of a sudden, that high pitch,
it just dropped all of a sudden. It was like
the snap, the snap of a finger. Really yeah, and
then I knew I became a man. Although sometimes I

(34:38):
I'm not sure what you're saying. Singers aren't men. No,
I'm saying that when you lose your when you use
voice changes, your voice fluctuates because like I have a
deep voice, you guys do as well, but we didn't
always have that, or maybe we did.

Speaker 1 (34:53):
But then you just have to train your voice to
hit the high notes.

Speaker 4 (34:55):
That's true.

Speaker 1 (34:55):
So hit the high notes on the update for tonight. Yeah,
that's true.

Speaker 4 (34:59):
And yeah, what is tread game?

Speaker 3 (35:04):
That's your childhood voice there? Yeah, Yankees two to one.
They are winning against the Mariners. That is our only
game that is left up and running and they're going
to the bottom of the tenth Now in Seattle to
the finals. The Cubs. They got beat by the Athletics
five to three. That is significant because that loss for
the Cubs open up the door to the Milwaukee Brewers

(35:24):
winning the NL Central Division. That was before the Brewers
even played their game tonight. And the Brewers did win,
Yes they did. They beat the Phillies with a final
score two to one. Cardinals over the Pirates ten to five.
The Tigers etch out of four to two win against
these slumping Royals. Significant for the Tigers because they sweep
Casey and are now a half game out of that

(35:46):
third and final spot in the AL Wild card race.
Who would have thought Detroit they are on a run
right now. Same could be said for the San Diego Padres, Yes,
four to nothing as they shut out the Astros. Manny
Machado had two home runs in the game, and the
Padres are now first in the NL wildcard race. And
there's a tie for second in the wild card picture

(36:08):
with the Mets and the Diamondbacks. Diamondbacks won their game,
so to the Mets as they found away easing ten
and nothing past the Nationals. Guardians over the Twins five
to four. That was in ten innings, Showyo Tani stealing
his forty ninth base of the year, still one away
from fifty, still two home runs away from fifty as
he tries to hit that fifty to fifty plateau, which

(36:31):
is something that no individual player in Major League Baseball
history has done, going fifty to fifty in a single season.
And then lastly, Braves over the Red seven to one
and the Giants five to three, winners against the Oiols,
and I have to include this as well, as they
get it back to you, Jason and Mike, the Angels
of all teams. They walk it off against the White

(36:52):
Sox in the thirteenth inning, thirty six wins, one hundred
and seventeen losses for the White Sox, four to three
to the final score.

Speaker 4 (37:00):
And yeah that was in thirteen innings.

Speaker 3 (37:03):
So I just in case anybody forgot about the win
lost record for the White Sox, it is there. Jason,
you are always a winner in my heart.

Speaker 1 (37:12):
Thank you. Brian Fenley, Jason Smith, Micarmon, lifrom Thetirack dot
Com Studios. Coming up next, Hey, another quarterback. We talked
about apologies earlier this hour, a couple of wide receivers. Hey,
we're sorry for what we did this past weekend. Now
a quarterback has gotten in on the action. Hey, I

(37:33):
want to tell you about what I was saying the
other day. We'll get to that next Jason and Mike Fox.

Speaker 2 (37:38):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
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Speaker 1 (37:45):
Fox Sports Radio. The Jason Smith Show with My best
friend Mike Harmon, Live from the Tirack dot Com Studios,
and more controversy coming off of the Texans win over
the Bears on Sunday Night, and it comes to us
courtesy of CJ Stroud, Texas quarterback, said today, Hey, wait

(38:08):
a minute. I wasn't didn't mean anything by my conversation
with Caleb Williams following the game. I wasn't trying to
little bro him, meaning, hey, I'm the big brother, you're
the little brother. Let me give you some advice following
the game, you know, And Stroud miked up. During the
Texans went over the Bears on Sunday Night football, he
embraced Caleb Williams and said to him, Hey, good job

(38:28):
out there. Stopped taking those hits. Then Caleb Williams began
to walk away, and Stroud pulled him back in and said, hey,
come here, learn from those mistakes. Everything you got, Bro,
it's in you already. You're going to be a hell
of a player in this league. Yeah, he was trying
a little brohim. He was trying to say, hey, let
me tell you about succeeding in this league. And you

(38:49):
know what, if I'm Caleb Williams, that really pisses me off,
you know, just because seeing seeing how people act after
a game, whether it were you know, at the at
you know, coaching like youth level. We talked about this
a few minutes ago. Whatever is that you know what
the game is over, Just tell me good game and
walk away, like nobody want. If you're friends with somebody
and you meet and you're talking at midfield, Hey, how

(39:11):
have you been? That's one thing. Hey, I you know
my former roommate was my brother's cousin's best friends from
a roommate plays on the other team. You're meeting at midfield,
you talk, that's one thing. But when quarterback you can
graduate talk Hey, good game. I don't want to sit
here and have you tell me, Hey, keep your head
up whatever, Like, dude, you won the game. Let's just go.
I'm a professional now, I'm making a lot of money here. Okay,
this is new. But you're trying to tell hey, here's

(39:33):
what it's like in the big bad NFL, and you know,
learn from these mistakes like this is not something as
coaches are gonna tell them, right, Like, I get that
you want to say something positive, but at the end,
nobody wants to hear it. And believe me, I know
this from from all kinds of experience. At the end
of games, when people lose a game, they don't want
to hear anything from anybody. You lose. Let the Bears

(39:56):
handle Cayleb Williams the way they want to. You want
to send him a text later, Greg, whatever, Hey, great game,
keep you out what But right after the game, Williams
was trying to leave. Oh no, dude, I want to
tell you. I want to tell you this. Let me
tell you. Keep your head up all the time, dude,
just say good game and go. That's all. That's all
anybody wants.

Speaker 5 (40:10):
It's funny because we've had this in the past, So
you and I have been doing this a minute here
on Fox Sports Trader. We've seen the near blows from
coaches at the end of games. I didn't like what
you did here. I didn't like, Hey, you were running
it up. Whatever the case is, and you have that terse.
They still do the handshake, but then there's you know,
maybe a little cursing at each other as they do

(40:30):
a kind of a blowby and keep walking. We saw
the Shadeur Sanders thing this last week against Colorado State. Yeah,
keep talking now and all that, and then he had
to come back. He's like, well he started it. That's
really all I got out of Star Sanders was he
started it and we finished it, you know, and whatever.
Because people went at him, and he got really upset

(40:51):
that he was being singled out.

Speaker 1 (40:53):
It's like, all you needed to do was just smile
and you know, say hey, good game. Hey, Well you
can tell Williams really he didn't care. Hey good game, Hey, hey,
keep your head up, you're okay, great, I'm leaving. Oh no, wait,
I got I would explain this to you more, dude.
I really don't care what you have to say. Man,
you won, say congratulations, say a good game. Go, that's it.
He made good luck, best of luck, whatever it is.

(41:13):
And it might have been the best of intentions, right,
he might not have been trying to little brow him
or whatever term you want to do. But guess what,
you're miked up, And clearly Caleb Williams thought you were,
because he's the only guy that matters in any of this,
right in terms of what he thought. And if the
old picture you know, is worth a thousand words, thing

(41:35):
that was worth about a million. Yeah, the eye roll
and the all right, what you're pulling me back in
for what? Losing teams don't care what winning teams have
to say to them at the end of a game.
They just don't nobody does. I mean, I really I
just I just like Williams, I.

Speaker 5 (41:50):
Just like that it had to become this big controversy.
I mean, I'm gonna talk about it now. It's like,
you know what it's.

Speaker 1 (41:55):
Done, exit out about a friend. He could have said
that the Jason Smith Show with Mike Carmon Live, that
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