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Jason Smith and Mike Harmon hit you with the micro and macro on the Knicks head coaching search. Men’s US Soccer Team is playing uninspired soccer right now. And Aaron Rodgers reveals he’s been married for a couple months!

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Speaker 1 (00:29):
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I've never seen this before. Oh yeah, what Kei K, dude,

(01:12):
we have the best record of the National League. You said,
never done this before, Okay, key K. Hernandez came in
to pitch for the Dodgers tonight in the sixth inning
against the Padres. In the sixth inning, he may go
three innings in relief tonight. The Padres lead the Dodgers
nine to nothing. Before you say, well, it's not so
out of ok sixth inning, nine nothing, it's a bullpen

(01:35):
game for the Dodgers. Anyway, Hernandez just got what looked
to be a double play grounder, except he threw the
ball into center face. Well you know, so, Padres have
two on and one out and he nearly hit Manny
Machado a couple seconds ago, and Machatto didn't look happy.

Speaker 3 (01:53):
Machado didn't look like like like ha ha.

Speaker 1 (01:55):
He looked like, come on, man, Like clearly you know,
Keik throws whatever that slop said, he just that. Just
the ball just moves, and uh see Machatta get upset
about it. It is like, dude, come on, and he's not
trying to hit you.

Speaker 4 (02:06):
Well, I'm realizing why the Padres other than Dylan sees
the bullpen game for the Dodgers had the advantage in
this one.

Speaker 3 (02:13):
Yeah, the dirtiest player in the game.

Speaker 4 (02:15):
Dominic Masterio was there celebrate Padre dumb in the sixth one.

Speaker 3 (02:20):
I thought the dirt.

Speaker 1 (02:22):
Uh well okay, well well he's not he's he's Johnny Hustle.

Speaker 3 (02:26):
Remember he hustles the most only not he just doubled
off the wall.

Speaker 1 (02:33):
Uh to make an eleven nothing lead for san Diego
over the Dodgers.

Speaker 5 (02:37):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (02:37):
Key a Hernandez his e ra is. I hope you
didn't stream him in Fantasy today. As Era is going up,
as we say it is still crying. Uh No, No
he's not, No, he's he's over the Uh the getting
called to that hump's house. He was caught on ring camp.
I like, Olten this ball to the fence. He kind
of just stood there and watched it, like I'm gonna,
I'm gonna. I'm gonna, uh peacock after my home run

(02:59):
off a position player.

Speaker 4 (03:01):
You know what, you sell it, find your wins man.
If they want to throw him out there, it counts.

Speaker 3 (03:06):
Just the same.

Speaker 4 (03:06):
Uh, he's the worst, Like it's not gonna have. In
his final baseball guard stats forty one home runs against
everybody else against position players.

Speaker 3 (03:16):
Oh it's not gonna have a second line. No, it
doesn't matter, not gonna say it's all gonna look the same.
Throwing beach balls.

Speaker 1 (03:22):
Uh yeah, he really, I mean I really like I
could swing the bat and hit the ball and supposedly, you.

Speaker 3 (03:27):
Know, watching throw it's like he is throwing like seventy.

Speaker 1 (03:30):
And I remember when I was a kid, like hitting
swinging against seventy was like, you know, I was like
seventeen eighteen.

Speaker 3 (03:35):
Like swinging seventy was Wow. That's a lot. That's bringing it,
you know, that's bringing it.

Speaker 4 (03:39):
Man.

Speaker 1 (03:40):
Uh So anyway, uh again, Key k could go three
innings for the Doctors sign in this game. Uh Now,
the big story we talked about this few minutes ago.
Shams Tron, a ESPN NBA insider, said that the Knicks
called both the t Wolves and the Thunder to get
permission interview there head coaches to fill in and well
to to six see Tom Thimbodeaux. But we're told no

(04:01):
one Chris and no on email Udoka.

Speaker 3 (04:04):
So okay.

Speaker 1 (04:06):
Also, according to Shams, they have not called the Mavericks
for permission to talk to Jason Kidd. However, sources tell
ESPN that if they do call the Mavericks, the Mavericks
would tell them no. Right now, there's a micro and
a macro point to make on this. Okay, here's the micro.

Speaker 3 (04:21):
So proud I taught you that.

Speaker 4 (04:22):
I know.

Speaker 1 (04:23):
I love that. I love going I say that now
with people. So there's a micro and a macro point.
People think, wow, look at that. This guy really knows economics.

Speaker 3 (04:29):
Yeah yeah, dude.

Speaker 1 (04:30):
Let me tell you about what it's like to have
bitcoin one hundred and nine thousand dollars. Number one is
what's that number bitcoing? Oh oh that's Oh that's what's
it's worth? One hundred and nine thousands?

Speaker 2 (04:42):
Oh wow?

Speaker 3 (04:42):
Okay, all right, No, I don't think you want to
necessarily laugh at the bitcoin people, right, No, I'm saying,
I just gotta wait two weeks. I'm not laughing babe
with bitcoin.

Speaker 1 (04:52):
But number one, and what do we say last week
if the Knicks are going down this road, I said
it went. If you're gonna go down the road of
calling on teams, call the heat for Eric Spolster. Call
him because maybe he says yes, he and Steve Kerr,
the two best coaches in the NBA go get a
guy that's been through every possible scenario, that's still a
young head coach that's coached big time athletes, big time superstars,

(05:15):
big time divas. He's managed big, big media situations. He
knows how to win in the playoffs. Maybe he's sick
of not having a team that can do anything in Miami.
I know that pat Riley's not gonna want to do
any favorites for the Knicks, but hey, if you're going
down the road for this, right, I would say call
the Warriors. But yeah, but you know, okay, all right,

(05:36):
but a lot of.

Speaker 4 (05:37):
Those things that you had as qualifiers also describe a
certain coach from a certain town in the Midwest.

Speaker 3 (05:44):
Yeah, the Bucks. No, no, the number, no, no, no, no, no,
it's one eight hundred. No call one eight hundred. Get
bent not happen, Call the heat for Eric Spulstra.

Speaker 1 (05:56):
If you're already being okay, being told no for a
couple of guys, what's the worst it gonna happen? Right
my pat Riley's gonna laugh and say, no, well, what
about your shooting percentage?

Speaker 3 (06:05):
At this point?

Speaker 1 (06:05):
But maybe Spoons, just because that's the thing is that
if the coaches surprised them and say hey, I really
want this job. Then the team would have no choice
but to allow permission because they don't want a coach
who doesn't want to be there, and eventually they're gonna
wind up getting there.

Speaker 4 (06:21):
Now, you're gonna find somebody there, Like if you keep
shooting your shot at the bar, eventually someone significant other
says yeah, whatever, go ahead, Like that's kind of what
you're doing.

Speaker 1 (06:29):
A tea Wolves saying no and the Thunder saying no, okay,
I understand that. But it's gonna take the coach saying
I want to talk to them, and then it's open.
And then you have to do it because you can't
have the guy come back who wants another job, so.

Speaker 3 (06:42):
You have to find it. You're gonna get rid of
him anyway.

Speaker 1 (06:44):
Why not figure out compensation and you send a guy
someplace else he doesn't want to coach, or you he
wants to go someplace else.

Speaker 3 (06:50):
You gotta figure it out.

Speaker 1 (06:51):
So why not call the if you if you're calling
the Thunder, if you're calling the Rockets and you're calling
the t Wolves, why not call the go Big, get
the biggest, the big game, right, the big go, go
go and call Eric's but maybe Spolzer will say, hey, Pat,
it's been great, but we're not really winning. And you know,
I'm not behind bucket Hat Tyler Hero as our franchise player.
We're not making anything further than the seventh spot in

(07:14):
the playoffs.

Speaker 3 (07:14):
So yeah, I really would like to go.

Speaker 1 (07:16):
Pat Riley could say no, but but then he's gonna
let him go as a head coach.

Speaker 4 (07:20):
Well, just like he did with Jimmy Butler. Yeah, I'm
not getting no. No, I'm not acquiescing Jimmy Butler got out.
This is because it's gonna like Geese. It's gonna take
the coach saying this is the job. I want to
make this happen. Teams, of course, are gonna say no.
It's gonna take the coach to say sorry, guys, but
I really want this gig. I really want I want

(07:41):
to talk to them, and you know the agent talks
back channel about hey, if if I say I want
the job, will I get it.

Speaker 1 (07:47):
Yes, we give you a guarantee you'd get the job.
There's all ways to make it happen, but this is
where it is where the coach has to say yes,
because then that puts the team in a bad spot
because you can't bring the guy back at that point,
and the guy may as well be a free agent.

Speaker 3 (07:58):
Then it's okay. We're gonna go aiding competies. If nothing else,
then the Knicks are screwing over.

Speaker 4 (08:03):
I mean, this could be a great strategy, creating unrest
and distrust.

Speaker 3 (08:09):
I'm gonna keep calling all the winners. Yeah, I want winners.

Speaker 4 (08:12):
So all I'm doing is calling teams that made the playoffs.
I'm gonna see if I can sow the seeds of
mountains the.

Speaker 3 (08:18):
Celtics from Missoula. You're gonna do all of it. Yeah,
it's gonna be great. Stop. No, it's good teams. All
I can say, good teams, only good time. If Damian
Lillard hadn't gotten her, you don't know, No, I think
I think I don't. I think I seen enough of that.
But look, here's a dangerous part, right because obviously it's
funny seeing.

Speaker 1 (08:35):
That everybody says no. The more name well no one
said no. Teams have said no. But it doesn't matter
because the more names that come up, that the Knicks
wind up going over on because it doesn't matter that
the tea wolf said no. Doesn't matter the thunder said no,
here's two names that the Knicks wanted to talk to.
They were both told no, Now we know that Jason

(08:56):
Kidd is on the radar. We had the mark Stein report,
there was mutual interest between both sides. This would now
be three times three guys mentioned that the Knicks aren't
going to get. The more names that are mentioned in
a coaching search, the less confidence anybody has that you
know what you're doing.

Speaker 4 (09:13):
Can we slap them up on a Bingo card and
see how quickly we.

Speaker 3 (09:16):
Get across I nine?

Speaker 1 (09:18):
Doc?

Speaker 4 (09:19):
No, how about how you go to Billy Donovan? He's
the third longest tenured coach him, Doc Rivers would be
the free space you have. Of course you know, oh yeah,
I've never been there yet. I mean you're already at
two out of twenty nine.

Speaker 1 (09:29):
But the best, the best opportunities you only hear. Usually
you only hear one name, and that becomes and that
becomes the guy. But now maybe you hear one or
two names because there's so much posturing. But the more
names you hear, the worse it is for that team
because it seems like we really don't know what they're doing.
I want to think the Knicks knew what they were doing.
Firing Tips. We had to move on from and I
get that we had to move on from him. We

(09:51):
found out the players weren't that happy with him. We
told you the night it happened. There's not been an
outpouring of WTF for what's going on with the next.

Speaker 3 (09:59):
So everybody and I said, we had a good run. Brings,
thank you very much.

Speaker 1 (10:04):
But we've heard in the exit interviews the Nick said, yeah,
we you know, he was very stubborn, didn't want to
make any changes.

Speaker 3 (10:09):
We thought that that that really hurt us.

Speaker 4 (10:11):
So the battle between him and Rose right squad and
you don't want to use it.

Speaker 1 (10:16):
So I get you had to get rid of Tips.
But the more names that come up that you go
over on, the worse it is for you, and the
worst that job seems to.

Speaker 3 (10:25):
Be a good job.

Speaker 1 (10:26):
Because if it was such a good job, wouldn't Finch
or Udoka or or Jason Kidd say that's the gig
I want. They they've all said, hey, we're happy standing
where we're saying. Who doesn't want to coach the Knicks?

Speaker 3 (10:36):
Boy?

Speaker 1 (10:36):
Here they are there, they they become they're back to
being the Knicks.

Speaker 3 (10:40):
It's the number one market in the country. They have
all the attention on them.

Speaker 1 (10:43):
Why wouldn't want to go coach a team that's got
superstars already? The superstar in Jalen Brunson that everybody loves.
Why wouldn't I want to go coach this guy? He
could be the face.

Speaker 3 (10:52):
Of the league.

Speaker 1 (10:53):
It makes the job look bad, It makes the Knicks
look inept. You can't have that many names be thrown
out there and go over on all of them. And
that's the danger because that's what I see happening for
the Knicks right now. Right, Like I said, I get
that fun and say call Eric Spolser, right if that's
are you going on? But how many names you have
to hear before people go? Man, nobody wants this job.
And suddenly the optic of the Knicks being this great

(11:14):
destination flips. It becomes a team that, yeah, I don't
know that I really want to go there. It's crazy.
I don't like what's going on. Free agents start thinking
nobody wants this job, why do I want to go
sign there? And it gets more embarrassing. You can only
you can only have so many names out there that
you don't hire before it flips on you, and it's
close to flipping.

Speaker 3 (11:32):
For the Knicks. He's already had three names that it
looks like they're not going to get a couple of things.

Speaker 4 (11:36):
First off, when the when the grid came out of
potential coaches, I don't know that I've ever seen that
many people figuratively thrown into the proverbial hat. Right here
we go. Here's fifteen twenty names, all the way down
to Steven A.

Speaker 3 (11:51):
Smith. Oh yeah, yeah, right, even sixty to one. I kid,
he's only sixty.

Speaker 4 (11:56):
Hey, we were talking about it before, not four million
to one, sixty one or nil. You know, in that
US game earlier, it's like it was only one hundred
to one live.

Speaker 1 (12:04):
Betting, not six trillion to one. He's sixty to one.
It really sixty to one.

Speaker 3 (12:09):
I think.

Speaker 4 (12:09):
But in a market like that, all it takes is
one dope, maybe someone associated with Steven A. Smith to
put a big bet down and it totally changes the odds.
But all of it to say we're leverage to the
max man, We're gonna look it. We can't take any
more money.

Speaker 1 (12:23):
A lot of five dollars bets on Steven Ace becoming
the head coach.

Speaker 4 (12:27):
Nick Hey, just for giggles, it's James Dolan. You have
no idea, But we talked about it with Spolstro and
then obviously with the mark Stein report, going back to
last week with Jason kidd of taking those swings and
looking at Finch, looking at Udoka and going on down
the line. You know, except for Spolstra, he's already had
a spot in the Eastern Conference where you look at

(12:50):
it and say, okay, here's here's a path. You may
not love your roster, you may not love your your
face as you call him, buckethead or bucket at their
hero it's like a great guitarist, Yeah, exactly, he was
and Roads yeah for a while. But all of that
to say, the Western Conference is a lot more difficult

(13:12):
to navigate right now, at least on paper, right because
the Bucks, whether it's Doc or whoever Giannis may be
somewhere else. Lillard's not coming back. The rest of the
team's old.

Speaker 3 (13:26):
Right.

Speaker 4 (13:26):
You look at the Knicks are in a position with
the Celtics no Jason Tatum, and there was already the
cap restrictions where they were probably gonna have to blow
things up or at least lose some of the ancillary
parts beyond whether Jalen Brown's back or not, and then
just keep going out the rest of the conference.

Speaker 3 (13:45):
No, a lot of heavy hitters Cleveland. Are you you're
buying them long term? Maybe?

Speaker 4 (13:48):
Maybe not as Darius Garland gonna stay. Is he a
guy that gets deltaway? I mean Atlanta people have tried
to sell Atlanta before.

Speaker 3 (13:56):
That's not working. We're calling for Kenny Atkinson.

Speaker 4 (13:58):
We're calling for legitimately, like keep going out like he
was the second favorite in the first list that came out,
of course was right, but keep going on down the
line that you've got in the Western Conference. A lot
of depth and teams that are still on the gulp,
like like San Antonio, whether they get Giannis or not,
They've got a roster and they haven't given up a lot.

Speaker 1 (14:17):
Yeah, but you know what, Wemby maybe maybe becoming a
monk maybe, you know, I mean they may not get
Wemby back.

Speaker 4 (14:23):
Yeah, but he might have learned some things about healing
processes to where they become unstoppable games loss due to injuries.

Speaker 3 (14:30):
Heroes with Ross eye Ghoul.

Speaker 6 (14:32):
Now I'd like to introduce you what was it, mister
ros look at Wemby trying to jump by trying to
get out of that pit.

Speaker 3 (14:45):
I don't know if he's gonna get out of that pit. Man,
it's gonna be very difficult. Look out for Culty yards
she's got she's dastard.

Speaker 4 (14:53):
Tell spoiler spoiler if you haven't seen it by now,
so I'll call the box stop. The Knicks are this
close to being laughed at, getting gocky. It's going from hey,
look at this, what a great destination is and now
they're this close to getting laughed at.

Speaker 3 (15:09):
Nix yo U. We'll have more on this updating and
developing story.

Speaker 1 (15:14):
But speaking of tire fires, well we got a big
one for you coming up next right here. Now it's
not Cleveland, it's a team we can all agree. Oh yeah,
this is a tire fire. Jason and Mike Fox Mets.
Now stop, we're the best record nationally.

Speaker 3 (15:28):
What does that mean? I gotta explain to you. I'll
explain it to him.

Speaker 2 (15:33):
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Speaker 1 (15:43):
Fox Sports Radio. The Jason Smith Show with My best
friend Mike Harmon. It's bold Keith k a Hernandez. I
think it's just finished his third inning of relief for
the Dodgers tonight.

Speaker 3 (15:56):
Good for him.

Speaker 1 (15:57):
Uh, he's allowed two runs, only one earned, has an
ERA of two point eight this season. Position player Keith
a Hernandez all star finished his third inning of relief
for the Dodgers as the Padres lead them eleven to one.
Dodgers coming to bat in the top of the ninth,
and good for him.

Speaker 3 (16:17):
You know, get your innings of work in.

Speaker 4 (16:19):
He's a cult hero in Los Angeles if and it
truly is the definition of a bullpen game, you know.

Speaker 1 (16:26):
And I want to say this because this I really believe,
is that all sports get to a point where they
realize that, you know, just because it's been something's been
done this way for a hundred years doesn't mean we
don't have to change it.

Speaker 3 (16:42):
Right.

Speaker 1 (16:42):
It's hard to get past certain things. But like you
see position players now pitching all the time, right, and
it's kind of fun to see. But and I'm not
saying because.

Speaker 3 (16:51):
Of this, like, oh, position players are the worst thing
in the world.

Speaker 1 (16:53):
What a what a what a what a bad mark
on the game and it's now it's kind of fun
to see it, but you see it, wait you often.
Now baseball has evolved from early parts of the twentieth
century into the mid mid twentieth century to the later
part twentieth century. Pitchers don't pitch complete games anymore.

Speaker 3 (17:12):
They don't.

Speaker 1 (17:12):
They rarely go into the seventh and if you go
into the seventh inning, it's like pitching a complete game.

Speaker 3 (17:16):
Oh no, I celebrate all of those you need. You need,
you need more relievers than you ever have because you
go through two or three relievers every single night, right
every single night.

Speaker 1 (17:28):
I know that the Major League Baseball has been sitting
at you know, you look at you where your roster is.
But I think at this point Major League Baseball needs
to say, okay, we're going to have a certain number
of players that you can have. Instead of saying, okay,
you know for your for your your you can have
like ten or eleven relievers however you want to put
on you have one less position players. You need to say, okay,

(17:50):
you can have X number of position players and X
number of pitchers and increase the active roster by two
or three so you can have two more relievers. On
your roster because clearly you need it. You need you
need it, you know you need you need more pitchers
on your roster because they're being used more than they
ever have before. And you see guys blow out there.

(18:11):
They're not great relievers year to year because they have
one great year, but they're over you, so the next
year their arm is not the same. Like you need
to say, okay, we need to make this active roster,
maybe twenty eight players and we're gonna you know, you know,
X number of whatever. You want to put the number
out for position players and then teams can have twelve pitchers.

Speaker 3 (18:32):
Right.

Speaker 1 (18:33):
If you did that, that would take care of a
lot of issues. And you wouldn't see this because look,
seeing the position players pitch as much as they are.
You know, okay, we have an issue in Major League
Baseball no's and this would help all of the pitchers.
It have to help everybody in all the teams. Give
them an extra couple of spots, but make it for
for strictly four pitchers.

Speaker 3 (18:50):
And I think that works.

Speaker 4 (18:51):
Yeah, it's not as bad as the ghost Runner, but
it's closed in terms of where I stand.

Speaker 3 (18:56):
On all this. Again, also with the shift and oh,
everything but the pitch clock. I'll keep that.

Speaker 4 (19:02):
But when we look at the rosters, right, you think
the union would continue to fight for it more jobs,
but then it becomes the battle of Okay, now, the
economics of the game, and we already talked about it
with John bon Brosi. That'll be up in the podcast
wherever you get your audio later on, talking about the

(19:22):
call ups, right, because you've got a rash of call ups, well,
a lot of hitters, right. We talk about Jack he's
a big trading card guy by the way, so he's
beloved by fans outside of Kansas City in the hobby.
But you've got him, you got Roman Anthony, you got
all the guys the White Sox. You got a lot
of pitchers. Why because they're cheap and especially on the

(19:43):
pitching side. If you're not gonna be a good team,
you might as well develop guys. If nothing else, you're
showcasing them. Maybe some contender decides, hey, they can come
to eat innings for us. Right, So you have that
kind of churn as well, So will it necessarily help? Right,
it's the old battle that we had in the NFL
all those years ago.

Speaker 3 (20:00):
Wow, look at.

Speaker 4 (20:00):
Those rookie contracts. These guys haven't earned it, and they
came in and now you get the fight. The other
way is like this rookie slotting is for the birds
and what are we doing? Uh So, so you fight
and have all those battles. But for for major league baseball, Yeah,
the fact that most pitchers go five. If you get
five innings out of your starter most nights, you're feeling

(20:21):
pretty good.

Speaker 1 (20:21):
Yeah, and you still and again you're using at least
three pitchers the rest of the game. Right now, Look, see,
so eleven you have eleven between infielders and outfielders, right,
and two catchers.

Speaker 3 (20:32):
Some teams will wait.

Speaker 1 (20:33):
But if you want to say thirteen position players, right,
if you go five, six and two right, okay, and
then fifteen pitchers, right, you'll have five starters, but you
also will have it could bring an extra one up
to be a swingman or a long reliever. I mean
you have ten you're talking about ten relief pitchers. And
if you're having three or four guys pitch a night,
well guess what. Okay, then you're the point where okay,

(20:55):
guys don't have to pitch back to back nights or
they don't They don't have to go so many innings
because you can bring them in for a little bit
and their innings are down. And and you're extending guys careers,
you're also creating jobs because you're creating two more major.

Speaker 3 (21:09):
League jobs as a result.

Speaker 1 (21:11):
Right, we're talking about I just created sixty jobs, right
for everybody.

Speaker 3 (21:14):
I just created sixty more jobs.

Speaker 2 (21:16):
Right.

Speaker 1 (21:16):
Oh, but but the pictures you need pictures, You need
more relief pictures. And this should be something that tells you, Okay,
it's time for Major League Baseball to make your adjustment.

Speaker 4 (21:24):
But if you're a veteran picture, you're you're fearful of
getting cycled out for the the cheaper alternative at an
expanded universe. Maybe maybe it get your your value as
a nine year veteran gets diluted in the extra world
that you bring in. So maybe there's a battle in
the union that then flows from it. But I do

(21:47):
like the the expanded roster. Certainly the players Union as
a whole would like it.

Speaker 3 (21:54):
Yeah, I could.

Speaker 1 (21:55):
I could run the players Union now. Except that I
could run I just give I just gave you sixty jobs.

Speaker 4 (22:00):
And now you gotta fight with ownership about getting the
money for those slots, which which should be fun. I mean,
you know, it's it's it's a good uh, it's a
good theory. But yeah, where we're at with pitching and
the the inability.

Speaker 3 (22:14):
I mean, guys have been coddled.

Speaker 4 (22:16):
Yeah, let's let's just call it what it is. It's
it's a different world that we that we live in.
I mean, all those years. Just put your hand and
fight through the bucket of rice like you're Nolan Ryan
and whatever.

Speaker 3 (22:26):
Actually go work a ranch.

Speaker 1 (22:28):
Padres do win the game over the Dodgers eleven to one,
So a tire fire kind of game for the Dodgers,
which gets us to the other big tire fire of
the night, nich Show. Uh no stop, I'll.

Speaker 3 (22:38):
Have more than next coming up in a bit, but
you open that door. Uh. Let's just say things are
not going well for the US men's national team as
we get ready for the Gold Cup, because tonight against Switzerland,
well this is kind of how it went. I'll be
cutting its international starts his second county, but this.

Speaker 2 (23:11):
Time stunts in complete.

Speaker 3 (23:14):
Control TNT on the call.

Speaker 1 (23:16):
Yes, Switzerland scored four goals in the first forty minutes
against the United States tonight, the last tune up the
United States has before the Gold Cup begins, and they
get crunched by the Swiss for nothing.

Speaker 3 (23:28):
That call of the fourth goal sounded like a shark jump.
It was it. Look it was. It was bad.

Speaker 1 (23:37):
And the thing is, listen, we talked about this last night,
coming off the game this past weekend where they lose
to Turkey and it's and you see the big old goal.
What is happening. The point we made last night is
even is even bigger tonight. You can make excuses and
say it's the B team. Okay, I understand that because
a lot of guys are home. Polisic as home, Anthony

(23:58):
Robinson is home, like you know, I got players who
were home because they're resting. But there has not been
good news on or off the field for the USMNT
and I don't know how long. And I can't count
Pochettino getting hired because who knows well.

Speaker 3 (24:13):
But in the moment it was a good head, right.

Speaker 1 (24:15):
I got a great, big hot take for him coming up.
But the thing is the United States is I don't
know when the last time anything good has come up,
and they they look lost.

Speaker 3 (24:25):
They still don't have an identity. It's the third head
coach they've had in the last few years.

Speaker 1 (24:29):
Going from Klinsmann to to Greg Burhalter and now with Pochettino,
that's supposed to come in and bring an identity and
bring a style, and bring a and bring a culture.
And it's They're supposed to be physical and the desire
is going to be there, and I still don't see it.
They look absolutely lost. And here's why I'll give you

(24:50):
this hot take. If the Gold Cup goes really bad,
I know that Pochettino makes it to the World Cup
next year because it's been such a bad start. Because
think about it, you have players who know, like Polistic
knows I should be here playing with this because how
many reps am I going to get with the national
team as we get ready for the Olympics, right and
Foachino said before the Olympics, say if you're coming here,

(25:12):
don't bring your golf clubs. This is we got to
get ready for the World Cup. And still Polistic knows
this and didn't show up. And other players, Robinson doesn't
show up, other players not showing up. Here's your new
coach coming in and the best players are saying we're
not coming. Some of the best players saying we're not coming.
What does that tell you about where where guys like
Polisic view the men's national team and the disconnect there

(25:35):
is now between the coaching staff and people running the
US soccer and the best players in the world.

Speaker 3 (25:40):
It's not there.

Speaker 1 (25:41):
The United States for the last few years has shown, boy,
when they're motivated, and there's times where for the first
fifteen minutes of a game, they look like the best
team on the planet. They look at a team that
could blow out any of your big contenders, and then
after fifteen minutes go by, they just kind of sit back,
or they show up for games and they look disinterested.
Tonight was a game where they look disinterested and they
didn't bring a lot of energy. And I'm thinking about this,

(26:03):
and I'm saying, how do you not get the best
players who want to show up and play for the
new coach. There's so many issues going on right now,
but that's the biggest one is that I don't know
what kind of culture is going on right now. I
don't know if the players are responding to it. They
didn't really respond to Berhalter, didn't really respond to Klinsman,

(26:23):
not really responding to Pachatino because you've got guys not
showing up, and I'm saying to myself, is he really
even gonna make it? Because if you have a bad
running the Gold Cup and boy, look at this, are
we really gonna start playing better? No, again, it's the
B team, but there's no to get There's no impetus there,
there's no sense of urgency. I don't see a team
that's happy on the field playing with each other, even
when Polistic and the other guys are there. I don't

(26:43):
get a team that's all happy playing on the field.
There's a lot of crap going on that just prevents
them from Hey, we're gonna give you our best effort
every game, and it's gonna be good enough most nights
because we are really talented. There are such a tire
fire right now. If this Gold Cup goes bad, I
would not surprised if wallk we're gonna put money together.
We put money to get Pochatino. You know they don't

(27:04):
have a lot of money, but they can't go into
the World Cup this way. I would not be surprised.
Suddenly it's a new head coach getting ready when we're
getting ready to go play in the World clame I mean,
you know they qualified for the World Cup though, yeah, no,
I know, but it doesn't matter.

Speaker 3 (27:16):
You know, we had to think we're gonna go there
and win a couple of games, and I oh no, no, no,
come on now, you see that, right now? Come on?

Speaker 4 (27:22):
That was a completely sarcasm bucket full because they get
the automatic qualifier. But all of that to say, we
watched with the US men's Olympic basketball team clamoring. He
had guys like Joel Embiid had choices of where he
was gonna play, eh, and he chose to play for

(27:42):
the US. And you had Steph Curry with his heroics
and Lebron James back out there, guys who are well decorated, rich,
beyond their wildest dreams, but it still mattered to them.
Right here, you can't I don't care if it's a
B team. The effort that was or lack thereof, on
display tonight coming out of the landon Donovan Polisic.

Speaker 3 (28:04):
Polisic dad flap is insane to me.

Speaker 4 (28:09):
How do you not have that as a all right,
we'll show him blink that guy. We're gonna go up
and give an effort and if that's your best effort,
then thirty years of work and building, you're at square one.
I mean you still need to lay a base of
a foundation at this point.

Speaker 3 (28:28):
Yeah, it doesn't feel like the case anybody. He's made
no progress. No, nobody's on the same page. I don't know.

Speaker 1 (28:34):
It doesn't seem like the relationships are good between US Soccer,
the coaching staff and the players. There's an absolute mess
and it and it hasn't It's been this way for
eight years. I mean we've all these young players and
Policit's been playing for almost a decade. Ride the wonder
kin this is and it's it's no, it's not kid, dad,

(28:54):
it's it's a wonder kid. It's it's it's a phrase,
it's a word.

Speaker 3 (28:57):
Or Holland as Spider Man when he first start. I mean,
we don't have that tell he's not a kid anymore.

Speaker 1 (29:01):
If it's a bad Gold Cup, you're really going to
see poach Tino get a chance?

Speaker 3 (29:04):
Or is it?

Speaker 1 (29:05):
Or are they just going to go to the players.
Who's going to get you excited? We'll hire whoever you
want because we we we gotta have you got at
least seem like, you want to be here? Who do
you guys want? Who do you guys want? As your
head coach?

Speaker 3 (29:14):
Will go get him and that's that's they'd have to do.

Speaker 4 (29:18):
Whoever the Knicks has permission for, No, you go no, no, no, no, no.

Speaker 1 (29:23):
Tims would be better, he would because he would look
very disapprovingly at the team if they're not playing well.
It would fit well, and he wouldn't put any subs in.
It would just be all.

Speaker 3 (29:30):
These well, so those guys don't have to show up.

Speaker 1 (29:32):
Yeah, oh that's right. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you don't want
to be here, it's all good, don't worry about it. Yeah,
we're we're all.

Speaker 3 (29:38):
I like that. That's good. You could have played net
tonight though, X I could have.

Speaker 1 (29:42):
I could have and it would have been great, right,
best keeper ever.

Speaker 4 (29:48):
If they told the goalie forty minutes in and just
had a guy I had him standing over.

Speaker 3 (29:52):
On the sideline. We're gonna do it. We're gonna put
a sweeper in front of the net where if the
ball gets in front, somebody can clear it. That's all.
We're gonna have.

Speaker 1 (30:00):
Time how to find out what's trending in the wide
world of sports. But guy's been called the Jurgen Klinsman
of Fox Sports Radio. He also watched night's game for
the USMNT and left.

Speaker 3 (30:09):
It's Steve de Seger.

Speaker 5 (30:11):
It's just gotting sad at this point. The record for
the new US coaches five and five. The US will
be hosting the World Cup in a year. The Americans
tonight in Nashville were down four to nothing in the
first half. Four nothing the final. Switzerland over the Americans
in this exhibition, the US with literally no shots on goal.

Speaker 3 (30:29):
In the ninety minutes.

Speaker 5 (30:30):
The US men will host the Gold Cup tournament this
month on Fox and FS one, starting this Sunday. By
the way, today Senegal won at England and an exhibition
three to one, and it's a final in San Diego,
Padres eleven to one over the La Dodgers. This was
an all bullpen game, so they had loud Trevino pitch
the first inning and then oh.

Speaker 3 (30:50):
No, no way.

Speaker 1 (30:50):
Now he hasn't been on the senior PGA tour in
a long time. I know he's just.

Speaker 5 (30:55):
Been putting around, isn't that say? And then Matt Souer
up from the miners again pitch the next four and
two thirds innings, allowed nine runs and thirteen hits, one
hundred and eleven pitches in relief, and then Key K Hernandez,
a pitching position player, was pitching the rest of the game.
It is these days in Major League Baseball legal for

(31:16):
a position player to be used on the hill if
you're down eight. So Dave Roberts waited until they fell behind.

Speaker 3 (31:24):
Nine to nothing and immediately put kick in the game
or told the other pitcher, hey, give up a couple
more swine, get kik a in. Okay, it's the same result.

Speaker 4 (31:31):
Yes, when do they get pitch restrictions on position players.

Speaker 5 (31:35):
Well, when you're throwing fifty miles an hour, I'm not
sure that's necessary because that literally most of his pitches
some under fifty miles per hour.

Speaker 3 (31:44):
Starting game one of the NLDS.

Speaker 1 (31:46):
Boy, it's it's going to be Dylan Ceason, Hernandez and LCS.
So I noticed the mash as you recall the Dodgers
did have those full games against events.

Speaker 3 (31:58):
At the NLCS. Yes, you're nothing has changed. And by
the way, Keith A.

Speaker 5 (32:02):
Hernandez at the plate, he became the guy in the
DH spot. Once you do this, you lose the DH
and he was zero for two with two strikeouts as
a better because, as everyone knows, pitchers can't hit. As
for the late game in Major League Baseball at Arizona Diamondbacks,
they're just closing about to close out a ten to
three win against Seattle, which means the Mariners will still

(32:24):
be three back at first place Houston in the AL West.
Houston was beaten at home by the White Sox four
to two, even though the White Sox offense was four
for thirty with thirteen strikeouts and the White Sox record
on the road had been six and twenty six. The
San Francisco Giants won their sixth straight game with four
runs top of the ninth A. Giants win at Colorado

(32:45):
six to five. Rockies record now twelve and fifty four.
The Giants are second in the NL West half game
behind the Dodgers San Diego, only one back.

Speaker 3 (32:54):
The Angels have.

Speaker 5 (32:55):
Won in ten innings, two to one over the A's.
Toronto won ten to nine at Saint Louis Is a
sixteen to four winner at Minnesota. The Yankees won ten
to two at Kansas City, and early home run for
Aaron Judge is twenty fourth and by the way, Giancarlo
stand with the elbow injury started rehabit double a tonight
at a walk to run single and.

Speaker 3 (33:14):
An RBI single.

Speaker 5 (33:15):
The Mets one again came back for a ten inning
victory over Washington five to four. Cincinnati won its fifth
straight one nothing at Cleveland, Andrew Rabbits six and one
got the win a complete game three hitter. Detroit won
again five to three at Baltimore. And as for the
TV ratings of the NHL Stanley Cup Final, the last
couple of games averaged two point four million viewers. The

(33:37):
college softball finale got two point four million viewers. Recently
on cable.

Speaker 3 (33:41):
Back to you, Thank you, Steve O.

Speaker 1 (33:43):
Coming up next, the big bomb that dropped today at
one NFL press conference.

Speaker 3 (33:50):
We got it for you, Jason to Mike Well.

Speaker 2 (33:52):
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Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
pm Pacific.

Speaker 1 (34:00):
Fox Sports Radio The Jason Smith Show with My best
friend Mike Carmen. Back into the NBA Finals coming up
in about twelve minutes. But Aaron Rodgers met the media
today for the first time as a member of the Steelers,
went through practice handed the ball off through some footballs,
and then dropped the big bombshell when he was asked

(34:21):
about the suspicious looking ring on the ring finger of
his left hand, got a hurry or anything else. A
wedding ring.

Speaker 3 (34:30):
It's a wedding ring. Congratulation, Thank you, I love you.

Speaker 2 (34:36):
It's been a couple months.

Speaker 1 (34:37):
Eh, I left the Jets, I got married. I was
really bad last couple of years, but now I'm married. Uh,
he wouldn't say the.

Speaker 4 (34:47):
Way your vocal and Fletcher was like, what I just
I decided to do it would take to take it
down another level. Oh, I'm just as opposed to a
positive I needed some positivity.

Speaker 3 (34:57):
I got married.

Speaker 4 (34:58):
You made it sound like I need it a couple
of a couple of bad years New York as opposed
to you know what a couple of years I realize
where I'm at my life, and I got married like positivity.
You the way you phrased it was like, you know,
it's bad things, and so I compounded it and bad things.

Speaker 3 (35:21):
Wouldn't say who he was married to.

Speaker 1 (35:24):
And now, of course everybody's going to race to try
to find out because he's opened the door to that.

Speaker 3 (35:28):
Right.

Speaker 1 (35:29):
This is when I said the other night that I
don't My big concern for the Steelers is how much
is Aaron Rodgers still about football? Because at this point,
with the way he's been the last couple of years,
taking all the time to choose to sign this year, Uh,
I look at him and say, this is a guy
that's playing football because he still wants to be famous

(35:51):
and still have the same platform that he's had for
his career. Because when you stop playing, your platform goes
down a little bit. And Aaron Rodgers is very and
you know, maybe he finds his audience after his playing
days are over. But I like it now, like is
he playing because he still loves football? Is he's playing
because well, I don't know what else I'm gonna do.
And I really like the fact last three and a

(36:11):
half years have been the most popular player in the NFL.
Every time I say or do something, people talk about
it because I look at this and I go this
instance here where he tells everybody he's married but wouldn't
say who he's married to. This tells me he's in
the Hollywood portion of his career, where he's the aging
star that is always looking for a way to grab

(36:32):
the news cycle. How am I gonna grab the news cycle?
What am I gonna do? How can I do it?
Because I'm getting older? Because if he got married and
it was a private thing and didn't want to tell anybody,
then say, hey, you got a ring on your left
hand yet, Nu, it's uh, I don't want to talk
about it, that's fine. Or don't wear the ring, right,
don't need to wear the ring? No Joe rules says
you have to wear a wedding ring. I've been married
for twenty years. I don't wear a redding ring. It's

(36:55):
you know, you don't have to do it if you
want to keep it a secret, if you want to
keep its private. Okay, I understand. But he wears the
ring and everybody's talking about it. When he signs his contract,
he puts his hand right in that spot in the picture.
He signed with his right hand. But my left hand
is what you see. I got the wedding ring on there. Oh,
people are talking about Aaron Rodgers. Hey, he pats himself
on the back. Did a great job getting people talking
about me. Am I married or not? Now I go

(37:18):
to the press conference, I go, yeah, I've been married
married a couple of months.

Speaker 3 (37:20):
Yeah, okay.

Speaker 1 (37:21):
Oh so now okay, Now people are gonna try to
find out who I'm married to, and that's gonna be
a story Like if he was a really private thing
and he didn't want people to know, it would have
been handled differently. But now this is what he is.
This is how I'm getting attention. I'm a Steeler now,
oh and I'm married. Now people are gonna spend the
next week trying to find out who my wife is.
And maybe I tell everybody on Pat mcafeere. Maybe I don't.

(37:42):
He is in that Hollywood. How do I grab the
limelight still? How do I grab the big part of
the news cycle. Oh, I'm gonna do it this way.
I'm gonna let people gonna tease that I'm married, you know,
like he worked this out with a PR person and
manager going yeah, this is gonna be our avenue to
go out and try to get the optics to get
people talking about you. Like that's what I look at
right now. That's why I go Is he still all

(38:03):
about football or is he only playing because now, hey,
this is my avenue to stay in the limelight.

Speaker 4 (38:08):
Are you playing win a date with Tad Hamilton? Is
that what we're doing now. I mean, look, football is
not a game that you could go, right, was that
Michael E.

Speaker 1 (38:16):
Knight?

Speaker 3 (38:17):
That was Toe for Grace? And okay? All right, okay,
I forget who else was in. I just know it
was Toe first. Okay, I thought I thought it was
a dude from the soap opera Michael E. Knight. That's good.

Speaker 4 (38:31):
You will have to look it up in post. But
with this, it's it's an interesting story for some. I
don't care, because football you can't fake right, especially quarterback.
You're gonna get your ass kicked pretty fast. I don't
think you're coming back to playhouse in this respect playing football.

(38:55):
If you're gonna go and get bludgeoned, you're right. You
just two years ago missed an entire season off the
fourth snap of a game. You battled back from that,
you played pretty well down the stretch. I gotta think
it's a little more than just all right. I want
some more publicity because he could still continue to get that.

Speaker 3 (39:13):
I mean, plenty of x NFL guys is just away
for him. How do I do it? Now?

Speaker 1 (39:17):
Hey, no one's talking now. This is another thing people
are spending talking about.

Speaker 4 (39:21):
Because this has been something that's been percolating for a while.
Who's he dating, what's he doing? Is he get did
he get married? That was that was speculative before the
ring photo that you point out in the foreground. I
would have liked it if it was his elbow was
crooked a little bit more so. Then it looked like
he was just covering up his paper so he didn't
cheat and see the terms of his contract. But you know,

(39:44):
for him, I don't think he could fake it. And
with Mike Tomlin, you sure as hell can't.

Speaker 3 (39:48):
From Todd, well, see, you'll see how the season goes,
He'll see how this he'll be better than the Jets. Well,
the Steelers are better than the Jets.

Speaker 1 (39:55):
Exit out about a Fresco exit swollen dome coming up next.
Two big takes as we get into Game three of
the NBA Finals.

Speaker 3 (40:03):
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