October 3, 2023 • 35 mins
Jason Smith and Mike Harmon recap Monday Night Football between the Giants and Seahawks. Brian Daboll was asked his concern about the Giants being blown out in three of their first four games. And Jason can’t get over horrendous holding call on Jets CB Sauce Gardner!
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Speaker 3 (00:48):
Well.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
The best thing I could say about football in New
York is the Knicks are officially in training camp. So hey,
we have that Nixer in camp. We did make it
to me, Nick, sure in camp, we made it. Everybody's talking, Hey,
this stupid you guys are gonna make me play games
I don't want to play. All right, As soon as
we hear from Brian Dable and Daniel Jones, although I
(01:08):
don't think they'll do the press conference together. It seems
like they've had enough of each other.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
Well, it seemed like you'd want to present a unified front.
You really think Daniel Jones is talking to night Oh.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
Man, this was an awful night for the Giants. Daniel
Jones and Brian Dabele get into it a little bit
on the sidelines. Dable flips an iPad and walks away
from Daniel Jones after a pick.
Speaker 4 (01:33):
This is not good, man.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
And I'm honest when I told you, Hey, the hate
in my heart that I had for the Jets lost
last night, there's a little bit less hate today watching
the Giants lose like this, so.
Speaker 4 (01:42):
Little really what this is getting to you too?
Speaker 1 (01:46):
Cause you know, because here's the thing, right, is that
I told you coming off of last night, I did
not want to come in and talk about the Jets.
Speaker 4 (01:53):
It was one of those losses where if.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
They get blown out, if they lose, if they look
bad at they but when they have a game like
last night where they're so many things that just my
head is going crazy on it's like I just want
to turn it, that was.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
The game and move on. But that was the game
where the execution of Frostburg's idea would have been the best.
Was that loss to the Chiefs. If we'd been live streaming, yeah, well,
maybe we had an adult beverage or two in front
of us or in us. Well, I will say, I
mean your reaction would have been maybe a little slow,
but it would have been intense.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
Live tweeting that last night was just it was. It
was difficult and watching it it was hard. I will
say this, I'm glad they listened to the show and
they decided to turn Zach Wilson. What do we say
last week? Turn them loose, let him throw the football,
let him go downfield, do it because this way babying
him is not working. And what happened he actually had
his best game, which tells you how bad it is
(02:46):
is that that was his best game.
Speaker 4 (02:47):
As a jenny.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
You know what he was winging it. What was funny
was are those intentional back shoulder passes or he just
a hint off one of those kind of things like,
oh no, they're back shoulder throw. It's like, are you
sure that it's not timing?
Speaker 4 (03:02):
It just happened to be shoulders.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
It's a catch move on whes Hey Collinsworth was a
great hype man for Zach for sure. But now I'm
at the point where it's like, you know what. I
not that the loss broke me because it's early in
the season and clearly.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
You just got through the Mets. Can't be broke, I know.
Although I want to say Opening Night, you came close. Oh,
I thought we lost you when Rogers went down, but.
Speaker 4 (03:31):
Five snaps Mike didn't. It's not It's not that it
broke me.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
It's just I'm now at the point where I can
say the Jets season, whatever happens, come on, that's, you know, whatever.
Speaker 4 (03:44):
Whatever, you know, because look, you know, you know, because
you had.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
Hope, like all of the sudden lights, like oh, they
battled back. But I can tell you exactly where your
mentality was watching that second half of a game.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
But here's hope, hope, hope, hope, yeah, and then and
then it got beat out of me. And then I
was like, no, there's too much hope. It's too much.
It's like one of those old movies. What was the
movie where they where the Salem witch trials. They were
trying to burn the witch out of the people and everything.
Daniel day Lewis was in it.
Speaker 4 (04:09):
Oh, what was it?
Speaker 5 (04:11):
One?
Speaker 1 (04:11):
Daniel day Leeuis and they they kill him at the end.
Sorry spoiler alert, And they killed him at the end.
Speaker 4 (04:17):
Is that the one?
Speaker 1 (04:18):
No, it's not the crucib was it the crucim Okay,
you're the one with the guy with the guy with.
Speaker 4 (04:23):
The thing in the place?
Speaker 6 (04:24):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (04:24):
Yeah, in nineteen ninety six. Okay, yeah, it'said Salem witch Trials.
We're gonna burn the witch outs. We're gonna burn hope
out of you. Jason Smith. My daughter's theater. Folks in
high school did that one?
Speaker 4 (04:36):
Kids? Kids wanted no part of that. Why why are
we doing the Cruiser? What are we doing that? I
want to do Chicago. I want to do Clue. No,
we're gonna do that. They did do Chicago later on,
But yeah, we do the Crucible.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
Like but but you know, of all the things, let
me give you something a little bit different from the game
last night, which is what which which is what I
come back to when I go you know what the
season is?
Speaker 4 (04:56):
Is just what?
Speaker 3 (04:56):
Oh? I thought you were gonna say something positive about
the Taylor Swift experienced. Since everybody else's get off my launch.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
You know, I think it's I really I'm more pissed
at the Chiefs. I really wanted them to get an
L because I knew it was gonna happen, it was
gonna be I tweeted this halftime, I said, this is
gonna be one of those games where the Chiefs played terrible.
Mahomes looks average, but somehow they win. And after the game,
all the Chiefs say is, we're happy with the win,
but we have a lot of things to fix. We're
not happy with how we played. And that's exactly what
(05:24):
Kelsey said. It's exactly what they are. Oh, we're not
having the elitism that you get from teams going yeah,
we should have beaten this team by a lot.
Speaker 4 (05:31):
Yea, we had a lot.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
No, you should have lost the game. You should have
lost a game you had the officials to think you
had good breaks to thank that you that you that
you got and the Jets didn't. Yo, So just walk
away going just don't say anything, just walk away and go, man,
we won.
Speaker 4 (05:43):
That's it.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
We should not have won this game. We did not
deserve to win this game. We didn't play better than
the Jets and we won. But they're still oh yeah,
and that's exactly what that's what pisses me off about
the game. But to get back to the other stuff
where I can say, okay, you know where I can
say the season's going to be whatever it is. Let
me talk about two plays in the game last night.
Remember the play third quarter, Chiefs have the ball and
(06:07):
Mahomes fumbles a snap right, and the ball happens to
bounce back toward him, so he's able to grab it
and fall forward for a first down. Right it's a
third down play. He's able to grab it and fall
forward for a first down. Right now, the Zach Wilson fumble.
Zack Wilson fumbles a snap right, because it happens to you,
you can blame Zach Wilson. Oh, he fumbles the snap.
(06:28):
You know what, Patrick Mahomes fumble snap too. Okay, you
can buy I'm not going crazy on Zack Wilson for
the fumble snap because Mahomes fumble snaps, fumbled snaps happened.
But Mahomes snap fumble snap happens. The ball hits the ground,
bounces back right to him, and he catches it and
he falls forward and he gets the first down. Zack
Wilson fumbles a snap, The ball bounces and it bounces
towards the Chiefs defensive lineman, who falls on it before
(06:50):
Wilson can get there. The Chiefs get the ball and
they never give it back to the Jets, right, Like,
that's the line of winning and losing. The ball hits
the ground and when the Chiefs fumble, it bounces back
to them and mahomes able to fall forward for a
first down. The Jets fumble, it bounces away from the
quarterback and the Chiefs fall on it. Were this game like,
that's what it was. Had we had a shot, I
(07:12):
would have loved to see what we did at the
end of that game because we were moving the ball
down the field and the Chiefs were having a lot
of trouble. Right You could tell that was a game
where Steve Spagnola came in with we're gonna do this
during the game and beat the Jets. Well, what if
that doesn't work, No, that's going to work, And then
what happened at halftime. By the time he got to
second half was, Hey, the Jets are doing stuff we
didn't really expect and the Chiefs had no plan and
(07:32):
the Jets were moving the ball very successfully with a
limited quarterback, right, I'd love to see what would happen
on that, But sometime away, that's how the game goes.
Speaker 4 (07:40):
You know, you're limited quarterback.
Speaker 3 (07:41):
You want to talk about a guy learning his lesson
from last year, gets to the podium, stands up in
the locker room wherever he could say it it's on
my fault.
Speaker 4 (07:50):
Well, look at me, it's my fault. I dropped the ball.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
Well you saw him on the sideline when Randall Cobb
had his arm around him. He goes, dude, I lost
the game on me. I lost the game, saying though.
Speaker 3 (08:01):
Like from a from last year of trying to push
it aside, this year, it's no, no, no, it's all
on me. Yeah, less right, lessons learned, or maybe just
shouting that a little me.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
But but that's but that's one thing that that I
don't really care about because if you're telling me, hey,
it's my fault, that's great, but we still lost. It's
great that you're telling me it's your fault, but we
still look.
Speaker 4 (08:22):
Don't fall down seventeen to nothing.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
Right if the if the car gets stolen and you
tell me, oh, I accidentally left the keys in the
car running the windows down.
Speaker 4 (08:31):
Oh, thanks for telling me.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
But the car still got stolen because you left the
keys in it with the windows rolled down and someone
got round.
Speaker 4 (08:36):
And took it.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
But no, that's the thing though, if you get those
extra details, you're that much more angered, all right. If
it's just oh, the car got stolen, I thought, Wow,
that sucks. Are you okay?
Speaker 4 (08:47):
What happened? Did you get carjacked? Someone? You know? Swipe
it directly from me? Like what happened? I was just
running in for a couple of minutes.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
I was there for like five hours. That that's my fault, real,
that's my fault. But that but that's the game too,
right for all the the one plays, the the the
throw that Wilson just missed to Garrett Wilson in the
end zone that would have been a touchdown, right, that's
that's such a big deal. The holding penalty on Sauce Gardner,
the one that wasn't. Yeah, the lack of the lack
of a holding penalty on Mahomes is third and twenty five. Right,
(09:15):
when on the third and twenty five play, I yelled
out lot, I said, this is the wrong defense to
be in because I shoot they were only rushing four guys.
I'm like, mahomes is gonna getut, gonna run and he run.
Speaker 4 (09:24):
Funny, I yelled the same thing when in the Duke
Notre Dame game. That's eleven. You gotta have eleven on
the field. Oh sorry, different game. Sorry, sorry, no, no.
Speaker 3 (09:34):
No, dude, this one right. I'm like, hey, we've been
having great success. Nah no, let's just rush three this. Yeah,
I know, teams get too smart for themselves. Teams get
too smart and there goes the scramble by Hartman. But
that what's not conflate though, But that's.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
Really what I what I thought about at the end
when I thought about all the things in the game,
and the sauce thing was ridiculous. And we'll get into
that because it's it's it's bigger than just hey was
it a penalty?
Speaker 4 (09:55):
Was it not?
Speaker 1 (09:56):
But from that is where, like I said, I get
to that point where in my brain something just snapped, like,
you know what, whatever the season is gonna be, we're
one and three, really now, now, Denver's a must. When
I'm like, I have no energy for Denver right now,
I have no energy to talk about Denver, to talk
about the Broncos to go into this game, which it's
it's gonna be, you know what the season is gonna be,
what it's gonna be, and and and and it's were
(10:18):
four weeks in and I've I've realized that Rogers is
out and the Jets coaching staff didn't do a good
enough Joba.
Speaker 4 (10:29):
Scores at Denver defense.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
I mean, what what what what Zach? I'll tell you,
Zach Wilson. Hey, I'm throwing the ball within three seconds.
When I get the ball. There's a buzzer attached to
my back that if I don't throw the football, I
get electrocuted by Lafleur. So I gotta make sure that
I throw the ball. Then I have to do it
that way. I mean really, I mean hacket, I said Lafleur.
But I will I will get electrocuted in my hacket
if I don't throw the football right, because that's it.
(10:53):
I'm getting the football out early. Okay, Well, so what's
gonna happen is the the Broncos are gonna play tight
man a man defense. Maybe Garrett Wilson gets a few times,
but it's gonna be the other team to adjust. I
don't have the energy for that right now. It's it's
like there was so much in the last night, and
it was so much of they can win this game
and they can go for and without it. Now I
just walk away going There were just so many things,
(11:14):
and it was the bounce of the football both.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
I'm gonna make you feel slightly better. You're not a
fan of the Bears and you're not a fan of
the New York Giants right now?
Speaker 4 (11:23):
Yeah, that's true, that's true.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
Like I said, the failure of the Giants tonight makes
my hate for what happened with the Jets go away
a little. I'm like the Grinch who was the Cidey
lu Who, right, little sah. It's like I'm meeting Cindy
lu Who in the form of Gino Smith and the
Seahawks that are saying, hey, don't worry, mister Jason.
Speaker 4 (11:42):
We took care of the.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
Giants, and my heart notes a little bit some absentee
parenting though. She's just wandering around and ends up. You know,
you only never said that. No one ever showed up
looking for her. No, she was like with the Grinch
the entire time alone. Where's your with them?
Speaker 4 (11:56):
Over sech? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (11:57):
Well, well at least well, the mom tried to come
back eventually. I mean, why didn't the dad try to
come back eventually? He should have tried to come back
to Yeah, why does he have to stay?
Speaker 2 (12:07):
Why?
Speaker 4 (12:07):
What did his brother's there? Sisters?
Speaker 1 (12:09):
Then they got all the kids, Hey, why don't you? Yeah,
I'll stay here. You go back and try to find
our kid, who maybe by himself. We don't know where he.
Speaker 4 (12:16):
Is now, but I'll stay. You go back and find
him money. Yeah, but they knew he was an evil genius.
He just fine.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
Listen, we don't think the movie works if we have
both parents go back.
Speaker 4 (12:25):
Okay, We're just gonna have the one parent go back. Right,
It's a better scene with John Canny dress us on.
It just dressed us on. It just dresses Jason.
Speaker 6 (12:32):
There's only one difference between tonight's game and last night's game.
Speaker 4 (12:37):
Taylor Swift wasn't at this game.
Speaker 6 (12:39):
The Giants were playing a winnable game before he kicked.
Speaker 4 (12:43):
Off all the Jets were playing a winnable game for
the second half. Absolutely not.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
They coulda if they the Jets had moved the ball
enough getting the ball back. Yeah, the last time they
had the football, I like you were.
Speaker 4 (12:56):
Beating the Chiefs. It wasn't happening. The science, it was it.
That might be the favorite thing if we had T
shirts for science. It's just it's science. It's just pointing
up and it says it's science, death taxes.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
It's science, science, right, I would want that on a
T shirt. That's pretty sure, the finger pointing up at.
Speaker 6 (13:16):
The phrase it's science, it's science, and then in brackets
the medicine jets sucking.
Speaker 3 (13:25):
But that My team's lost fourteen in a row and
they gave him twenty five or more.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
And your team still hasn't won a game since Elon
Musk bought Twitter, they still haven't won a game. And
we're coming up on the year anniversary.
Speaker 3 (13:39):
Now we get another chance on Thursday Night where they
will give up forty eight points.
Speaker 4 (13:43):
Dam don't, dude, don't tell. Don't don't tell people.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
The parents and commanders are out there. Just tell people
there's a Thursday Night. We're gonna be live talking about
Thursday night football. Just stop playing eats me. There's another
NFL game on Thursday. Who's playing? It's great, it's great.
Let me miss the you to talk about something else.
Speaker 4 (14:01):
Look at this over here, baby, Taylor Swift is gonna
be there. I don't know.
Speaker 6 (14:04):
It's a good thing. Prime doesn't get fine for dead air.
Al Michaels is not gonna have a lot to say.
He's not gonna show up. You can He's hees so
nut shows.
Speaker 4 (14:12):
It's like the Jets last night. He's so not showing.
You know, there's you know, I gotta say.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
I went back and watched some of the clips of
Al Michaels or kirkurb Street. I got some thoughts on that.
But we'll we'll, we'll have that coming out. I I
got thoughts on that.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
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Speaker 1 (14:35):
Still has no clue Fox Sports Radio The Jason Smith
Show with Mike Harmon. Now, I still don't know the
big theme to the music tonight again. All what I
come through is it's all bands form early two thousands.
The lead singer sounds exactly the same. These are are
these like? Are these like demo demo bands? Were the
lead singer in simple plan?
Speaker 7 (14:56):
No, But it's from a specific time era around two
thousand and four to two thousand and eight.
Speaker 6 (15:00):
These are the songs that Zach Wilson plays when he's
banging moms.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
Whoa allegedly allegedly, there's no allegedly allegedly.
Speaker 4 (15:09):
I don't think we have a big fat one where
we get confirmation on that.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
We got a story and then we had you know,
other players called them the goat. I mean, I don't
know that we had confirmation on that.
Speaker 4 (15:20):
Seemed like that would be the confirmation.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
No confirmation, no source, trust me, bro, all right, tyser,
you got.
Speaker 4 (15:31):
To give me a hint. So all from two thousand
and four to two thousand and.
Speaker 7 (15:34):
Eight, Okay, you want a hint?
Speaker 4 (15:36):
Is this all from I would say, the year Zach
Wilson was born? No, yes, on the Jets won a game,
right two thousand and four? Yeah, I gotta eat a hint.
Speaker 7 (15:44):
Okay, this is all based on a topical sports story.
That's why I'm playing these. There's your hint.
Speaker 8 (15:50):
Interesting took over social media for a little bit. Really
these songs, well, these are about that story. So yeah,
that type of genre.
Speaker 4 (15:58):
Okay, So I actually have to pay a t attention
to what is being said in.
Speaker 7 (16:01):
This Hopefully your job. You know sports? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (16:03):
Sports?
Speaker 1 (16:04):
Yeah, but okay, but when I hear so okay, yeah,
this is the song I listened to in two thousand
and five. All the same genre, they're all.
Speaker 4 (16:10):
The same singer. It's the same.
Speaker 6 (16:11):
It's not true fact that knows more about sports today
than you do.
Speaker 7 (16:17):
At least I can have you filling for Tyser's tower.
Speaker 4 (16:19):
Now, okay, what is sports?
Speaker 7 (16:22):
What is Ty's just a segment about me not knowing sports?
Speaker 1 (16:25):
Oh okay, I plays dumb for a second for you
on your auntime on your anime podcast.
Speaker 4 (16:30):
You should be a guest. I could do that, should
be a guest. Well, you know what I like? Pokemon?
What else? That's it. I'm done.
Speaker 7 (16:35):
Just start the show with calling it anime or anime
whatever you say an it's.
Speaker 4 (16:38):
Animate, and then that it's ten minutes of how is
it pronounced?
Speaker 3 (16:41):
You got people mad at him by saying, don't stop
binge watching this stuff?
Speaker 4 (16:47):
Yeah, okay, they got they got after him. Okay, all right, you.
Speaker 7 (16:51):
Dinna guess what it is?
Speaker 4 (16:52):
Or no? Uh well, uh let's see. Guys who sound
younger than Zach.
Speaker 7 (16:58):
Wilson, you're thinking too like simple, think of the genre
that I'm playing.
Speaker 4 (17:02):
Okay, you're playing what is that called?
Speaker 1 (17:05):
I mean a there you go teen rock, no rock
to where the lead singer sounds like a teenager.
Speaker 7 (17:11):
I feel like if I give you what it is,
it'll give away the story. That's why I'm trying not to.
Speaker 4 (17:15):
Okay, maybe Brian Dabele, how's the answer? Maybe?
Speaker 2 (17:19):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (17:20):
All right, So while we chew on that, Yes, the
Giants lose tonight twenty four to three, an abomination of
a game against the Seahawks. Daniel Jones with a pick six.
Daniel Jones was another interception, and then Dable was seen
caught on camera twice. That's starting to make big news.
(17:41):
We talked about this a little while ago. The first
bit of video was him talking to Daniel Jones as
Daniel Jones comes off the field following the pick six
that put the game away twenty one to three. You
could see Brian Dabele talking to Daniel Jones yelling and
Daniel Jones doing them I'm not looking at you. I'm
looking at the scoreboard because I want to see for summer.
I don't want to watch you yelling at me. Maybe
they're showing him on TAJ and famous people that we're
(18:03):
in a table will trade you to the Patriots and
get Mac Jones in here. If you don't straighten up,
that's Alabama Mac, then he's not not anymore. Uh, they've
just owned him. Then, following the next interception, Daniel Jones
sitting on the bench looking at a tablet. Uh for
whatever coverage the Seahawks are in that he didn't see
when he triple clutch then threw the ball for a pick.
(18:24):
Brian Dable with an with a tablet in his hand,
and he flips it and throws it and walks away
in anger. Well that was all the reporters wanted to
talk to Brian table about following the game.
Speaker 3 (18:37):
So it's better than having to answer questions about why
a player wasn't with the team.
Speaker 4 (18:43):
But he's still went up on eber Flues.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
So here is Brian Dable answering questions about that, and well,
basically that you you you you're cool. Answer is good,
an sir, you think one of those guys with Semini,
I think one of the guys.
Speaker 4 (19:03):
Of course, here's Brian Babel answering those questions.
Speaker 5 (19:07):
What were you trying to.
Speaker 4 (19:08):
Show Damie along the interception and cameras go out. You
showing the tablet him.
Speaker 9 (19:13):
I was trying to show him, kind of see what
he thought, and then kind of tell him what I saw.
Speaker 7 (19:20):
Didn't look happy because you kind of lost the tablet
as you walked away.
Speaker 4 (19:23):
I mean, what was supposed to happen on that route?
Speaker 5 (19:25):
Was it?
Speaker 2 (19:26):
Yeah?
Speaker 9 (19:26):
I'm not going to get into particulars of it, just
we didn't get the job done.
Speaker 4 (19:32):
What did you wanted to do on that plant?
Speaker 9 (19:35):
Yeah, obviously not throwing interceptions.
Speaker 5 (19:40):
How does a night like this happen?
Speaker 2 (19:42):
I mean, did you see any signs during practice this
week where you had to a good week?
Speaker 9 (19:48):
No, had a good week, And again I thought you
defauts what we did a lot of good things. You know,
didn't get the job done. I had too many pounds
and special teams and didn't score on offense.
Speaker 5 (19:59):
So I got to figure out a way to make
that better. And how how hamstrung do you feel the
way the offensive line is playing?
Speaker 9 (20:06):
I mean it seems like the no excuses we got,
I got to do a better job.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
Do you feel like if you let Daniel down with how.
Speaker 5 (20:13):
You didn't protect him?
Speaker 9 (20:15):
Kinda yeah, I'd just say overall pat offensively wasn't good
enough from any standpoint.
Speaker 7 (20:23):
We've talked a lot about the play calling and you've
said the processes remained the same. Yeah, you guys are
averaging five points per game on aside, you've removed that
Cardinals game. Do you think the process needs to.
Speaker 5 (20:32):
Change at this point? Well, i'd say we got to
do better.
Speaker 9 (20:36):
We'll keep working at it, confident of the guys we have,
and got to do a better job of it.
Speaker 4 (20:43):
What do you make of the special teams?
Speaker 5 (20:45):
Too many penalties?
Speaker 9 (20:47):
Yeah, dropped the first punt six seven penalties six Yeah,
so again really nothing nothing good enough.
Speaker 5 (20:57):
Got to do a better job and that that starts with.
Speaker 9 (20:59):
Me of like the half of the whistle stuff, right, Well,
you know are getting into it.
Speaker 5 (21:05):
Yeah, that last week, but yeah, certainly not something we
want to do. Pat catch it.
Speaker 9 (21:14):
Ultimately, they got to go out there and do it
in the heat of the moment.
Speaker 5 (21:19):
So we'll work on that to fix it.
Speaker 4 (21:22):
Well, what did you tell the guys you no longer about.
Speaker 9 (21:27):
Yeah, I'll keep that between us, but obviously got to
do a lot better.
Speaker 4 (21:31):
Wait, Steak, don't stop, Brian.
Speaker 2 (21:34):
This second game.
Speaker 9 (21:35):
You've had it home.
Speaker 3 (21:36):
We're at the end of the game's visiting fans.
Speaker 1 (21:38):
You're just having a the old place.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
I mean, are you getting word and your friends?
Speaker 5 (21:45):
Yeah, I'd be upset too if I was a fan.
Speaker 9 (21:47):
So there's a lot of things we got to do better,
and that's what we'll try to do.
Speaker 7 (21:50):
Do you feel like this season is start a spiral
a little bit on you ou?
Speaker 5 (21:54):
Yeah, it's the first quarter of the season.
Speaker 9 (21:56):
There's a long way to go, but certainly a lot
of things we got to do better.
Speaker 3 (22:00):
Friend, you have enough handle on boy exactly is wrong
to be able to confidently say you can have a
plan to fix it in time for time.
Speaker 5 (22:08):
I have a lot of confidence in the guys in
the room.
Speaker 6 (22:09):
I know.
Speaker 9 (22:10):
It's the results haven't shown up. We've you know, we
took some pretty bad beatings.
Speaker 5 (22:15):
But you own it and you move on.
Speaker 9 (22:17):
And you got a lot of confidence in the players
and the coaches, and we gotta do a better job.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
There's brianople. I don't think Pat was going to ask
one more quite Pat, Patt?
Speaker 4 (22:28):
Listen, we yeah, Pat, magnav Pat. We recovered this, Pet,
all right. We covered all the If I forced you to,
who would you give a game ball?
Speaker 2 (22:38):
Now?
Speaker 1 (22:38):
See, now here's the thing we talk about the media
asking bad questions, and that happens a lot, right you
get you get the media asking a lot of bad
questions during postgame press conferences and not getting answers and
not getting not getting what what helps anything, And then
you get a night like tonight. Well you could tell
(22:58):
those those giants reporters like not that they smell blood,
but they knew we gotta get answers on this. There
was no let up. There was no hey, all right,
enough pat And then someone said, uh, Brian, what was
the best part of tonight or what what? How great
was it last year? And there was no softball questions?
(23:19):
It was no dude, everybody's pissed. You're pissed. The giants
are pissed. I'm pissed, the fans are pissed. We're all pissed.
You got to answer these questions. Now, Brian Dable can
answer the questions whoever he wants to answer them.
Speaker 4 (23:31):
But this was you could do.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
This is New York media like you could tell like
there was a sharpness in that room with all the
questions too. What were you trying to show Daniel on
the iPad? What did you say to him? What did
you want him to not do on that way and
find not throw a interception, and he got gets frustrated.
Nothing to I mean, that's the media. That's the media
doing the job after a game. That that that's staying
on topic and not just talk about the defense in
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the first half, and and and and and what it
was that now that was that was not what you want.
That was like, if you want to be a head
coach in sports, do you want to coach in New York?
You want to coach that jedalist is that you gotta
be okay with that. You got to answer the right
things and say the right thing.
Speaker 3 (24:08):
But you know what we've been talking a lot about
through the first four weeks of this season, a lot
of chirping going back and forth, right, players, coaches, everybody
kind of letting loose. Right, Jamar Chase after yesterday's game,
I'm always open. I'm always open, Like bleeping this bleeping
that you know, everybody you know talking about you know,
(24:29):
not getting the ball enough or or whatever situationally there is.
You know, certainly in Chicago they did the same thing
with the Chase Claypool situation. They wanted to talk more
about that than anything justin fields did in the first
three quarters or for what happened in the fourth. It's like,
you're not being honest with us about what's going on
and why here locker room is fractured. Same there table,
(24:51):
like there's no dancing around it. You got into it
with the quarterback that just got signed for four years
and one hundred and sixty million dollars. He looked like
he more or less ignored you your offensive watch like
I love the one question so directs like how does
this happen? Like okay, start from there, Yeah, how does
a loss like tonight happen?
Speaker 4 (25:11):
Whoa wow? And what do you say to that?
Speaker 3 (25:14):
But like Tomlin had say some of that yesterday, even Belichick,
they're not afraid to ask him that question at this
point either like it's a different there's a different tone
and tenor to a lot of these interactions this year,
it seems. And for Dable, look he danced until he
finally just said, okay, it don't throw interception.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
Look now, here's here's the big thing about Daniel Jones, right,
and this is this is why if the Giants had
one do over, they would go back and say, let's
not give Daniel Jones that money with a franchise, right,
because Daniel Jones last year had a good year, right,
But it's not like the guy went crazy. His quarterback
rating was not even near one hundred. It was ninety.
(25:56):
It's a little bit above average. He threw for fifteen touchdowns. Yes,
he plays with his legs. Like I said, at his best,
he is a poor man's Josh Allen. And he was
able to get the Giants in the playoffs, and the
Giants had a lot of good feeling. And I understand that,
but you have to also get that all right, While
Brian Dables seemed to get what he needed to out
(26:16):
of Daniel Jones. It's not like Daniel Jones threw thirty
five touchdowns and suddenly this turned into a high octane
offense and you got locked into him for four years
and one hundred and sixty million, when you could have
franchised him for this year and said, you know what,
maybe this is let's see you do it again. Because
it's not like he was good. His rookie year was
his best year, and that was he had a couple
(26:37):
of big games, but his best year. He hasn't really
been good since twenty nineteen. He was good in twenty nineteen,
he was bad in twenty twenty, he was bad in
twenty twenty one. Somehow he gets the chance in twenty
twenty two with Brian Dable, and okay, proves it.
Speaker 4 (26:51):
Hey, maybe I do have a.
Speaker 1 (26:52):
Little bit of something. But you get a little bit
of something from the guy and you give him forty
million dollars for four buters.
Speaker 3 (26:57):
But I want to know how much you know. You've
got Brian Dable and they're advocating for him. Look look
what we did in year one. Get me another weapon
or two? Right, you got Hodgens, you bring in Hyatt,
You've got bring in Darren Waller. You'd think Saquon Barkley,
who was fantastic last year, is going to be upright now?
The offensive line, forget about the performance today. Andrew Thomas
(27:17):
hasn't been there. That's one of your high picks. Neil
has been awful, Right, there's one of your top draft picks.
He looks like a turnstyle that's much nicer than Rodney Harrison,
isn't it. So you know, America, I love you too.
But the idea is that I'd love to know how
much Brian Dabele advocated for it, saying, we got to
(27:39):
bring him back. Here's what we're working on, and here's
what we need to get to that next step. But
he's the guy to do it because they don't do
it without Dables, no, without dab.
Speaker 1 (27:49):
But the Giants also have to say, yeah, that's great,
but we're gonna franchise him, but we want to keep him,
and we want to keep Saquon Barkley. Sorry, the NFL's
that you got to make a choice, right if you like.
You think Barkley, after being injured for his entire career,
now in a contract year, suddenly he's healthy all the
way through. You think that's gonna work. I let Barkley go.
I let Barkley at the street and say, you know what,
(28:10):
that's great, but you know what, we can bring a
couple of guys in and get and get the production
we need out of Saquon Barkley and let's make sure
we have the right quarterback. But instead they go all
in and Barkley's not even playing and who knows when
he's gonna play again, and how healthy he's gonna be.
And now you got Daniel Jones for this year and
next year. Now you could get out after a couple
of years, but now you're locked into a guy who
may not be salvagable at this point. And now as
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good as a relationship was with Dable and him last year,
now look where it's at right now he's getting mad
at him on the sidelines and flipping iPads and walking
away from him. The Giants got too emotional after a
big emotional year last year. It was a feel good
year that kind of came out of nowhere. And that's
where I get. I love those years. Those are the
best years where there's no expectation and you show up
(28:53):
out of nowhere and every week is a gift and
you're stunned how good your team is and you think
about what the future is like. It's awesome, but at
the end of the year, you still have to sit
back and say, Okay, now we're in the business room
and Daniel Jones is four year, one hundred and sixty million.
What we want to do with this guy or is
it franchise him and figure it out? Franchi, that's a
smart thing. Saquon Barkley Boys. Saquon was great, but look
(29:14):
at all the other years when he couldn't stay on
the field, wasn't productive?
Speaker 4 (29:17):
Is the right thing to do? Keep him? Because we
can only franchise one of them? What do we do?
Speaker 1 (29:21):
And hard decisions have to be made because every year
is its own different entity in the NFL, and they
weren't made with the Giants. They made a lot of
these on emotion and good feeling where there was not
enough of Okay, when it comes down to it, what's
the best thing for this football team? And now they're stuck.
Now they're absolutely stuck with no way out, no way
out going forward.
Speaker 2 (29:40):
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Speaker 4 (29:50):
Is it about already so we can stop the madness?
Speaker 9 (29:55):
Well?
Speaker 4 (29:55):
I just mentioned San Francisco. No oh, you mentioned Vegas too.
It's not the band, it's the genre. But this is
genre's crack.
Speaker 7 (30:06):
This is you take that back, Mike.
Speaker 4 (30:09):
The genre.
Speaker 1 (30:10):
Look, the genre is all the bands from the early
two thousands. It's from an era where the lead singer
sounds like he's sixteen and he holds a skateboard while
he sings.
Speaker 4 (30:20):
On stage.
Speaker 7 (30:20):
I did when I listened to this.
Speaker 4 (30:21):
Yeah, yeah, okay, that's that's the genre.
Speaker 8 (30:24):
Of about a sports story connected to that, it's a
Zach Zach Wow Swift, it's Swift. Why wouldn't I just
play Taylor Swift?
Speaker 4 (30:35):
That it's because you're you.
Speaker 1 (30:37):
Well, that's true, because I would say, hey, play Taylor
Swift and you would play Katy Perry. I'm sorry, Paul,
Katy Perry is I don't know if you know, I
don't know. Okay, that's what you would do. I just
shot Zach.
Speaker 5 (30:51):
Daniel.
Speaker 1 (30:52):
You would play Daniel by Elton John. You don't know
Elton johnnys You would play Seahawks, see hawk.
Speaker 7 (31:00):
You're really overthinking this.
Speaker 4 (31:04):
Remember this.
Speaker 7 (31:04):
There's more than one sport too, right, yeah? Yeah, then
think about the other sports playoffs?
Speaker 4 (31:10):
Playoffs? Is the playoffs got something to do with Jimmy
Butler's hairs at the playoffs? Is it the playoffs?
Speaker 7 (31:16):
I feel like Mike's way closer than you guys should be, right?
Speaker 1 (31:19):
Is it?
Speaker 4 (31:19):
Flock of seagulls?
Speaker 1 (31:21):
He he a seagulls and seagulls chill uh and Jimmy
Butler's hairdo.
Speaker 4 (31:27):
Jimmy Butler's hair do Oh did I break your concentration?
I just said that literally, like right, but tysher game?
You look like that came in and was playing with
his hair. Oh, I didn't see. He was mocking those
of us that don't have it.
Speaker 7 (31:41):
What is what is the answer? What Mike just said?
Speaker 4 (31:45):
Flock of seagulls? No, keep it moving? What did he
just say?
Speaker 7 (31:50):
Jason?
Speaker 4 (31:50):
What did you say, Mike Mack?
Speaker 1 (31:52):
He's just big Monster showed me big for Monster Mac
with eight patties of the Big Mac. I said, I
got to get that after the show.
Speaker 4 (32:00):
Get one.
Speaker 3 (32:01):
You have to record the consumption and then you have
to keep the recorder on like do it like an
Instagram live that keeps going.
Speaker 4 (32:09):
So we can see how it destroys you. In the
the first Monster Mac here and I have a cardinal.
What do you want on your tomb stuff?
Speaker 2 (32:16):
He ate it?
Speaker 4 (32:17):
That's one. Look supersize my grave. Look.
Speaker 1 (32:21):
The biggest play in the NFL this week, And you
know I'm being honest when I say this, the Sauce
Gardner hold that helped cost the Jets the game against
this the Chiefs last.
Speaker 4 (32:31):
I don't know. I thought the sixth Khalil math. Yeah,
there's a lot of sacks.
Speaker 5 (32:35):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (32:37):
Look, I'm less upset at the call because as much
as it was a ridiculous call, at least it's something
we've seen before where the last two to three minutes
of the game is refereed and officiated differently than the
first fifty seven to fifty eight minutes.
Speaker 3 (32:52):
We saw that in Super Bowl last year. Oh, but
that's how it's done in the NBA. Guys clutching and grab,
and we did that fifty eight minutes.
Speaker 4 (32:57):
It's okay.
Speaker 1 (32:57):
It's not okay now, So I could just agree that,
but at least I've seen it. But what really pissed
me off about that is that the referee decides to
throw the flag after Michael Carter intercepts the ball right
like that jostling was done. The jostling was done for
a good couple of seconds. The ball was in the
air and there was no flag thrown, but the Jets
(33:19):
intercepted the ball, and then we throw the flag. We're
gonna We're gonna put Mahomes back out there, give him
a chance to win. This is where I look at
the officiating and I go wow. Sometimes I sometimes I think,
is there a meeting before a game where they go, hey,
you know who's playing, and you know where things.
Speaker 4 (33:34):
Are, you're going.
Speaker 1 (33:37):
I mean, I look at stuff like that, because how
could you not after seeing that that, It's just how
is that call?
Speaker 4 (33:42):
How is that call made? So he hold him?
Speaker 1 (33:45):
Apparently he held him. Apparently he only held him because
the Jets intercepted the ball. Because if he if that
was a hold, he throws that flag right away. It's
holding right right, I hold it. He's got him, he's
got him. I'm throwing it down now. I don't think
it was a penalty because that was the way it
was played the whole game. But they decide to do
it late in the game at least I understand that.
But any double clutches at the flag like, no, no,
(34:08):
I gotta throw. I mean, how do you wait? It's
either holding or it's not. So what you're telling me is,
I'm gonna wait and see how the play comes out. Oh,
it comes out in the jets favor, I'm gonna throw
the flag. So what I'm thinking of is that if
the Chiefs catch that ball, he doesn't throw the flag,
but because that ball was was picked off by the Jets,
he throws the flag. I bet you if it just
fell incomplete, he would have thrown the flag as well.
(34:30):
But something. If it's positive for the Chiefs, I'm gonna
leave it. But if it's positive for the Jets, I'm
gonna throw the flag. That's what pissed me off about it,
because this wasn't just hey, here's a penalty, I'm throwing
the flag. It was I'm waiting and I'm gonna I'm
gonna play god and decide I'm gonna throw the flag
for whatever reason I want to throw it. That's you
think about it, And there's no way you can't not
think about something like that. Well, I think you're just
(34:52):
convinced that everybody's out to get you.
Speaker 4 (34:57):
It's the old.
Speaker 3 (35:00):
You know, just because you're paranoid doesn't mean there isn't
somebody or something out to get you.
Speaker 4 (35:04):
That is true.
Speaker 3 (35:05):
In this particular case, I would agree, no flag, that's
the way you called it. But by the letter of
the law, you could see where well they would and
the referee waiting is like basketball, like soccer, it's like,
all right, what's the outcome? Did they still get a
shot off that they didn't interfere enough? In basketball? Ah,
(35:26):
he missed the shot, all right, he gets two shots
to make up for it. So sorry, Saw, she got
called for one that you've gotten away with many others.
Speaker 4 (35:36):
That's what really pissed me off.
Speaker 1 (35:38):
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Speaker 3 (00:48):
Well.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
The best thing I could say about football in New
York is the Knicks are officially in training camp. So hey,
we have that Nixer in camp. We did make it
to me, Nick, sure in camp, we made it. Everybody's talking, Hey,
this stupid you guys are gonna make me play games
I don't want to play. All right, As soon as
we hear from Brian Dable and Daniel Jones, although I
(01:08):
don't think they'll do the press conference together. It seems
like they've had enough of each other.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
Well, it seemed like you'd want to present a unified front.
You really think Daniel Jones is talking to night Oh.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
Man, this was an awful night for the Giants. Daniel
Jones and Brian Dabele get into it a little bit
on the sidelines. Dable flips an iPad and walks away
from Daniel Jones after a pick.
Speaker 4 (01:33):
This is not good, man.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
And I'm honest when I told you, Hey, the hate
in my heart that I had for the Jets lost
last night, there's a little bit less hate today watching
the Giants lose like this, so.
Speaker 4 (01:42):
Little really what this is getting to you too?
Speaker 1 (01:46):
Cause you know, because here's the thing, right, is that
I told you coming off of last night, I did
not want to come in and talk about the Jets.
Speaker 4 (01:53):
It was one of those losses where if.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
They get blown out, if they lose, if they look
bad at they but when they have a game like
last night where they're so many things that just my
head is going crazy on it's like I just want
to turn it, that was.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
The game and move on. But that was the game
where the execution of Frostburg's idea would have been the best.
Was that loss to the Chiefs. If we'd been live streaming, yeah, well,
maybe we had an adult beverage or two in front
of us or in us. Well, I will say, I
mean your reaction would have been maybe a little slow,
but it would have been intense.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
Live tweeting that last night was just it was. It
was difficult and watching it it was hard. I will
say this, I'm glad they listened to the show and
they decided to turn Zach Wilson. What do we say
last week? Turn them loose, let him throw the football,
let him go downfield, do it because this way babying
him is not working. And what happened he actually had
his best game, which tells you how bad it is
(02:46):
is that that was his best game.
Speaker 4 (02:47):
As a jenny.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
You know what he was winging it. What was funny
was are those intentional back shoulder passes or he just
a hint off one of those kind of things like,
oh no, they're back shoulder throw. It's like, are you
sure that it's not timing?
Speaker 4 (03:02):
It just happened to be shoulders.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
It's a catch move on whes Hey Collinsworth was a
great hype man for Zach for sure. But now I'm
at the point where it's like, you know what. I
not that the loss broke me because it's early in
the season and clearly.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
You just got through the Mets. Can't be broke, I know.
Although I want to say Opening Night, you came close. Oh,
I thought we lost you when Rogers went down, but.
Speaker 4 (03:31):
Five snaps Mike didn't. It's not It's not that it
broke me.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
It's just I'm now at the point where I can
say the Jets season, whatever happens, come on, that's, you know, whatever.
Speaker 4 (03:44):
Whatever, you know, because look, you know, you know, because
you had.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
Hope, like all of the sudden lights, like oh, they
battled back. But I can tell you exactly where your
mentality was watching that second half of a game.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
But here's hope, hope, hope, hope, yeah, and then and
then it got beat out of me. And then I
was like, no, there's too much hope. It's too much.
It's like one of those old movies. What was the
movie where they where the Salem witch trials. They were
trying to burn the witch out of the people and everything.
Daniel day Lewis was in it.
Speaker 4 (04:09):
Oh, what was it?
Speaker 5 (04:11):
One?
Speaker 1 (04:11):
Daniel day Leeuis and they they kill him at the end.
Sorry spoiler alert, And they killed him at the end.
Speaker 4 (04:17):
Is that the one?
Speaker 1 (04:18):
No, it's not the crucib was it the crucim Okay,
you're the one with the guy with the guy with.
Speaker 4 (04:23):
The thing in the place?
Speaker 6 (04:24):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (04:24):
Yeah, in nineteen ninety six. Okay, yeah, it'said Salem witch Trials.
We're gonna burn the witch outs. We're gonna burn hope
out of you. Jason Smith. My daughter's theater. Folks in
high school did that one?
Speaker 4 (04:36):
Kids? Kids wanted no part of that. Why why are
we doing the Cruiser? What are we doing that? I
want to do Chicago. I want to do Clue. No,
we're gonna do that. They did do Chicago later on,
But yeah, we do the Crucible.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
Like but but you know, of all the things, let
me give you something a little bit different from the game
last night, which is what which which is what I
come back to when I go you know what the
season is?
Speaker 4 (04:56):
Is just what?
Speaker 3 (04:56):
Oh? I thought you were gonna say something positive about
the Taylor Swift experienced. Since everybody else's get off my launch.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
You know, I think it's I really I'm more pissed
at the Chiefs. I really wanted them to get an
L because I knew it was gonna happen, it was
gonna be I tweeted this halftime, I said, this is
gonna be one of those games where the Chiefs played terrible.
Mahomes looks average, but somehow they win. And after the game,
all the Chiefs say is, we're happy with the win,
but we have a lot of things to fix. We're
not happy with how we played. And that's exactly what
(05:24):
Kelsey said. It's exactly what they are. Oh, we're not
having the elitism that you get from teams going yeah,
we should have beaten this team by a lot.
Speaker 4 (05:31):
Yea, we had a lot.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
No, you should have lost the game. You should have
lost a game you had the officials to think you
had good breaks to thank that you that you that
you got and the Jets didn't. Yo, So just walk
away going just don't say anything, just walk away and go, man,
we won.
Speaker 4 (05:43):
That's it.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
We should not have won this game. We did not
deserve to win this game. We didn't play better than
the Jets and we won. But they're still oh yeah,
and that's exactly what that's what pisses me off about
the game. But to get back to the other stuff
where I can say, okay, you know where I can
say the season's going to be whatever it is. Let
me talk about two plays in the game last night.
Remember the play third quarter, Chiefs have the ball and
(06:07):
Mahomes fumbles a snap right, and the ball happens to
bounce back toward him, so he's able to grab it
and fall forward for a first down. Right it's a
third down play. He's able to grab it and fall
forward for a first down. Right now, the Zach Wilson fumble.
Zack Wilson fumbles a snap right, because it happens to you,
you can blame Zach Wilson. Oh, he fumbles the snap.
(06:28):
You know what, Patrick Mahomes fumble snap too. Okay, you
can buy I'm not going crazy on Zack Wilson for
the fumble snap because Mahomes fumble snaps, fumbled snaps happened.
But Mahomes snap fumble snap happens. The ball hits the ground,
bounces back right to him, and he catches it and
he falls forward and he gets the first down. Zack
Wilson fumbles a snap, The ball bounces and it bounces
towards the Chiefs defensive lineman, who falls on it before
(06:50):
Wilson can get there. The Chiefs get the ball and
they never give it back to the Jets, right, Like,
that's the line of winning and losing. The ball hits
the ground and when the Chiefs fumble, it bounces back
to them and mahomes able to fall forward for a
first down. The Jets fumble, it bounces away from the
quarterback and the Chiefs fall on it. Were this game like,
that's what it was. Had we had a shot, I
(07:12):
would have loved to see what we did at the
end of that game because we were moving the ball
down the field and the Chiefs were having a lot
of trouble. Right You could tell that was a game
where Steve Spagnola came in with we're gonna do this
during the game and beat the Jets. Well, what if
that doesn't work, No, that's going to work, And then
what happened at halftime. By the time he got to
second half was, Hey, the Jets are doing stuff we
didn't really expect and the Chiefs had no plan and
(07:32):
the Jets were moving the ball very successfully with a
limited quarterback, right, I'd love to see what would happen
on that, But sometime away, that's how the game goes.
Speaker 4 (07:40):
You know, you're limited quarterback.
Speaker 3 (07:41):
You want to talk about a guy learning his lesson
from last year, gets to the podium, stands up in
the locker room wherever he could say it it's on
my fault.
Speaker 4 (07:50):
Well, look at me, it's my fault. I dropped the ball.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
Well you saw him on the sideline when Randall Cobb
had his arm around him. He goes, dude, I lost
the game on me. I lost the game, saying though.
Speaker 3 (08:01):
Like from a from last year of trying to push
it aside, this year, it's no, no, no, it's all
on me. Yeah, less right, lessons learned, or maybe just
shouting that a little me.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
But but that's but that's one thing that that I
don't really care about because if you're telling me, hey,
it's my fault, that's great, but we still lost. It's
great that you're telling me it's your fault, but we
still look.
Speaker 4 (08:22):
Don't fall down seventeen to nothing.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
Right if the if the car gets stolen and you
tell me, oh, I accidentally left the keys in the
car running the windows down.
Speaker 4 (08:31):
Oh, thanks for telling me.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
But the car still got stolen because you left the
keys in it with the windows rolled down and someone
got round.
Speaker 4 (08:36):
And took it.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
But no, that's the thing though, if you get those
extra details, you're that much more angered, all right. If
it's just oh, the car got stolen, I thought, Wow,
that sucks. Are you okay?
Speaker 4 (08:47):
What happened? Did you get carjacked? Someone? You know? Swipe
it directly from me? Like what happened? I was just
running in for a couple of minutes.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
I was there for like five hours. That that's my fault, real,
that's my fault. But that but that's the game too,
right for all the the one plays, the the the
throw that Wilson just missed to Garrett Wilson in the
end zone that would have been a touchdown, right, that's
that's such a big deal. The holding penalty on Sauce Gardner,
the one that wasn't. Yeah, the lack of the lack
of a holding penalty on Mahomes is third and twenty five. Right,
(09:15):
when on the third and twenty five play, I yelled
out lot, I said, this is the wrong defense to
be in because I shoot they were only rushing four guys.
I'm like, mahomes is gonna getut, gonna run and he run.
Speaker 4 (09:24):
Funny, I yelled the same thing when in the Duke
Notre Dame game. That's eleven. You gotta have eleven on
the field. Oh sorry, different game. Sorry, sorry, no, no.
Speaker 3 (09:34):
No, dude, this one right. I'm like, hey, we've been
having great success. Nah no, let's just rush three this. Yeah,
I know, teams get too smart for themselves. Teams get
too smart and there goes the scramble by Hartman. But
that what's not conflate though, But that's.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
Really what I what I thought about at the end
when I thought about all the things in the game,
and the sauce thing was ridiculous. And we'll get into
that because it's it's it's bigger than just hey was
it a penalty?
Speaker 4 (09:55):
Was it not?
Speaker 1 (09:56):
But from that is where, like I said, I get
to that point where in my brain something just snapped, like,
you know what, whatever the season is gonna be, we're
one and three, really now, now, Denver's a must. When
I'm like, I have no energy for Denver right now,
I have no energy to talk about Denver, to talk
about the Broncos to go into this game, which it's
it's gonna be, you know what the season is gonna be,
what it's gonna be, and and and and it's were
(10:18):
four weeks in and I've I've realized that Rogers is
out and the Jets coaching staff didn't do a good
enough Joba.
Speaker 4 (10:29):
Scores at Denver defense.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
I mean, what what what what Zach? I'll tell you,
Zach Wilson. Hey, I'm throwing the ball within three seconds.
When I get the ball. There's a buzzer attached to
my back that if I don't throw the football, I
get electrocuted by Lafleur. So I gotta make sure that
I throw the ball. Then I have to do it
that way. I mean really, I mean hacket, I said Lafleur.
But I will I will get electrocuted in my hacket
if I don't throw the football right, because that's it.
(10:53):
I'm getting the football out early. Okay, Well, so what's
gonna happen is the the Broncos are gonna play tight
man a man defense. Maybe Garrett Wilson gets a few times,
but it's gonna be the other team to adjust. I
don't have the energy for that right now. It's it's
like there was so much in the last night, and
it was so much of they can win this game
and they can go for and without it. Now I
just walk away going There were just so many things,
(11:14):
and it was the bounce of the football both.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
I'm gonna make you feel slightly better. You're not a
fan of the Bears and you're not a fan of
the New York Giants right now?
Speaker 4 (11:23):
Yeah, that's true, that's true.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
Like I said, the failure of the Giants tonight makes
my hate for what happened with the Jets go away
a little. I'm like the Grinch who was the Cidey
lu Who, right, little sah. It's like I'm meeting Cindy
lu Who in the form of Gino Smith and the
Seahawks that are saying, hey, don't worry, mister Jason.
Speaker 4 (11:42):
We took care of the.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
Giants, and my heart notes a little bit some absentee
parenting though. She's just wandering around and ends up. You know,
you only never said that. No one ever showed up
looking for her. No, she was like with the Grinch
the entire time alone. Where's your with them?
Speaker 4 (11:56):
Over sech? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (11:57):
Well, well at least well, the mom tried to come
back eventually. I mean, why didn't the dad try to
come back eventually? He should have tried to come back
to Yeah, why does he have to stay?
Speaker 2 (12:07):
Why?
Speaker 4 (12:07):
What did his brother's there? Sisters?
Speaker 1 (12:09):
Then they got all the kids, Hey, why don't you? Yeah,
I'll stay here. You go back and try to find
our kid, who maybe by himself. We don't know where he.
Speaker 4 (12:16):
Is now, but I'll stay. You go back and find
him money. Yeah, but they knew he was an evil genius.
He just fine.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
Listen, we don't think the movie works if we have
both parents go back.
Speaker 4 (12:25):
Okay, We're just gonna have the one parent go back. Right,
It's a better scene with John Canny dress us on.
It just dressed us on. It just dresses Jason.
Speaker 6 (12:32):
There's only one difference between tonight's game and last night's game.
Speaker 4 (12:37):
Taylor Swift wasn't at this game.
Speaker 6 (12:39):
The Giants were playing a winnable game before he kicked.
Speaker 4 (12:43):
Off all the Jets were playing a winnable game for
the second half. Absolutely not.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
They coulda if they the Jets had moved the ball
enough getting the ball back. Yeah, the last time they
had the football, I like you were.
Speaker 4 (12:56):
Beating the Chiefs. It wasn't happening. The science, it was it.
That might be the favorite thing if we had T
shirts for science. It's just it's science. It's just pointing
up and it says it's science, death taxes.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
It's science, science, right, I would want that on a
T shirt. That's pretty sure, the finger pointing up at.
Speaker 6 (13:16):
The phrase it's science, it's science, and then in brackets
the medicine jets sucking.
Speaker 3 (13:25):
But that My team's lost fourteen in a row and
they gave him twenty five or more.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
And your team still hasn't won a game since Elon
Musk bought Twitter, they still haven't won a game. And
we're coming up on the year anniversary.
Speaker 3 (13:39):
Now we get another chance on Thursday Night where they
will give up forty eight points.
Speaker 4 (13:43):
Dam don't, dude, don't tell. Don't don't tell people.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
The parents and commanders are out there. Just tell people
there's a Thursday Night. We're gonna be live talking about
Thursday night football. Just stop playing eats me. There's another
NFL game on Thursday. Who's playing? It's great, it's great.
Let me miss the you to talk about something else.
Speaker 4 (14:01):
Look at this over here, baby, Taylor Swift is gonna
be there. I don't know.
Speaker 6 (14:04):
It's a good thing. Prime doesn't get fine for dead air.
Al Michaels is not gonna have a lot to say.
He's not gonna show up. You can He's hees so
nut shows.
Speaker 4 (14:12):
It's like the Jets last night. He's so not showing.
You know, there's you know, I gotta say.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
I went back and watched some of the clips of
Al Michaels or kirkurb Street. I got some thoughts on that.
But we'll we'll, we'll have that coming out. I I
got thoughts on that.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
pm Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
Still has no clue Fox Sports Radio The Jason Smith
Show with Mike Harmon. Now, I still don't know the
big theme to the music tonight again. All what I
come through is it's all bands form early two thousands.
The lead singer sounds exactly the same. These are are
these like? Are these like demo demo bands? Were the
lead singer in simple plan?
Speaker 7 (14:56):
No, But it's from a specific time era around two
thousand and four to two thousand and eight.
Speaker 6 (15:00):
These are the songs that Zach Wilson plays when he's
banging moms.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
Whoa allegedly allegedly, there's no allegedly allegedly.
Speaker 4 (15:09):
I don't think we have a big fat one where
we get confirmation on that.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
We got a story and then we had you know,
other players called them the goat. I mean, I don't
know that we had confirmation on that.
Speaker 4 (15:20):
Seemed like that would be the confirmation.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
No confirmation, no source, trust me, bro, all right, tyser,
you got.
Speaker 4 (15:31):
To give me a hint. So all from two thousand
and four to two thousand and.
Speaker 7 (15:34):
Eight, Okay, you want a hint?
Speaker 4 (15:36):
Is this all from I would say, the year Zach
Wilson was born? No, yes, on the Jets won a game,
right two thousand and four? Yeah, I gotta eat a hint.
Speaker 7 (15:44):
Okay, this is all based on a topical sports story.
That's why I'm playing these. There's your hint.
Speaker 8 (15:50):
Interesting took over social media for a little bit. Really
these songs, well, these are about that story. So yeah,
that type of genre.
Speaker 4 (15:58):
Okay, So I actually have to pay a t attention
to what is being said in.
Speaker 7 (16:01):
This Hopefully your job. You know sports? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (16:03):
Sports?
Speaker 1 (16:04):
Yeah, but okay, but when I hear so okay, yeah,
this is the song I listened to in two thousand
and five. All the same genre, they're all.
Speaker 4 (16:10):
The same singer. It's the same.
Speaker 6 (16:11):
It's not true fact that knows more about sports today
than you do.
Speaker 7 (16:17):
At least I can have you filling for Tyser's tower.
Speaker 4 (16:19):
Now, okay, what is sports?
Speaker 7 (16:22):
What is Ty's just a segment about me not knowing sports?
Speaker 1 (16:25):
Oh okay, I plays dumb for a second for you
on your auntime on your anime podcast.
Speaker 4 (16:30):
You should be a guest. I could do that, should
be a guest. Well, you know what I like? Pokemon?
What else? That's it. I'm done.
Speaker 7 (16:35):
Just start the show with calling it anime or anime
whatever you say an it's.
Speaker 4 (16:38):
Animate, and then that it's ten minutes of how is
it pronounced?
Speaker 3 (16:41):
You got people mad at him by saying, don't stop
binge watching this stuff?
Speaker 4 (16:47):
Yeah, okay, they got they got after him. Okay, all right, you.
Speaker 7 (16:51):
Dinna guess what it is?
Speaker 4 (16:52):
Or no? Uh well, uh let's see. Guys who sound
younger than Zach.
Speaker 7 (16:58):
Wilson, you're thinking too like simple, think of the genre
that I'm playing.
Speaker 4 (17:02):
Okay, you're playing what is that called?
Speaker 1 (17:05):
I mean a there you go teen rock, no rock
to where the lead singer sounds like a teenager.
Speaker 7 (17:11):
I feel like if I give you what it is,
it'll give away the story. That's why I'm trying not to.
Speaker 4 (17:15):
Okay, maybe Brian Dabele, how's the answer? Maybe?
Speaker 2 (17:19):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (17:20):
All right, So while we chew on that, Yes, the
Giants lose tonight twenty four to three, an abomination of
a game against the Seahawks. Daniel Jones with a pick six.
Daniel Jones was another interception, and then Dable was seen
caught on camera twice. That's starting to make big news.
(17:41):
We talked about this a little while ago. The first
bit of video was him talking to Daniel Jones as
Daniel Jones comes off the field following the pick six
that put the game away twenty one to three. You
could see Brian Dabele talking to Daniel Jones yelling and
Daniel Jones doing them I'm not looking at you. I'm
looking at the scoreboard because I want to see for summer.
I don't want to watch you yelling at me. Maybe
they're showing him on TAJ and famous people that we're
(18:03):
in a table will trade you to the Patriots and
get Mac Jones in here. If you don't straighten up,
that's Alabama Mac, then he's not not anymore. Uh, they've
just owned him. Then, following the next interception, Daniel Jones
sitting on the bench looking at a tablet. Uh for
whatever coverage the Seahawks are in that he didn't see
when he triple clutch then threw the ball for a pick.
(18:24):
Brian Dable with an with a tablet in his hand,
and he flips it and throws it and walks away
in anger. Well that was all the reporters wanted to
talk to Brian table about following the game.
Speaker 3 (18:37):
So it's better than having to answer questions about why
a player wasn't with the team.
Speaker 4 (18:43):
But he's still went up on eber Flues.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
So here is Brian Dable answering questions about that, and well,
basically that you you you you're cool. Answer is good,
an sir, you think one of those guys with Semini,
I think one of the guys.
Speaker 4 (19:03):
Of course, here's Brian Babel answering those questions.
Speaker 5 (19:07):
What were you trying to.
Speaker 4 (19:08):
Show Damie along the interception and cameras go out. You
showing the tablet him.
Speaker 9 (19:13):
I was trying to show him, kind of see what
he thought, and then kind of tell him what I saw.
Speaker 7 (19:20):
Didn't look happy because you kind of lost the tablet
as you walked away.
Speaker 4 (19:23):
I mean, what was supposed to happen on that route?
Speaker 5 (19:25):
Was it?
Speaker 2 (19:26):
Yeah?
Speaker 9 (19:26):
I'm not going to get into particulars of it, just
we didn't get the job done.
Speaker 4 (19:32):
What did you wanted to do on that plant?
Speaker 9 (19:35):
Yeah, obviously not throwing interceptions.
Speaker 5 (19:40):
How does a night like this happen?
Speaker 2 (19:42):
I mean, did you see any signs during practice this
week where you had to a good week?
Speaker 9 (19:48):
No, had a good week, And again I thought you
defauts what we did a lot of good things. You know,
didn't get the job done. I had too many pounds
and special teams and didn't score on offense.
Speaker 5 (19:59):
So I got to figure out a way to make
that better. And how how hamstrung do you feel the
way the offensive line is playing?
Speaker 9 (20:06):
I mean it seems like the no excuses we got,
I got to do a better job.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
Do you feel like if you let Daniel down with how.
Speaker 5 (20:13):
You didn't protect him?
Speaker 9 (20:15):
Kinda yeah, I'd just say overall pat offensively wasn't good
enough from any standpoint.
Speaker 7 (20:23):
We've talked a lot about the play calling and you've
said the processes remained the same. Yeah, you guys are
averaging five points per game on aside, you've removed that
Cardinals game. Do you think the process needs to.
Speaker 5 (20:32):
Change at this point? Well, i'd say we got to
do better.
Speaker 9 (20:36):
We'll keep working at it, confident of the guys we have,
and got to do a better job of it.
Speaker 4 (20:43):
What do you make of the special teams?
Speaker 5 (20:45):
Too many penalties?
Speaker 9 (20:47):
Yeah, dropped the first punt six seven penalties six Yeah,
so again really nothing nothing good enough.
Speaker 5 (20:57):
Got to do a better job and that that starts with.
Speaker 9 (20:59):
Me of like the half of the whistle stuff, right, Well,
you know are getting into it.
Speaker 5 (21:05):
Yeah, that last week, but yeah, certainly not something we
want to do. Pat catch it.
Speaker 9 (21:14):
Ultimately, they got to go out there and do it
in the heat of the moment.
Speaker 5 (21:19):
So we'll work on that to fix it.
Speaker 4 (21:22):
Well, what did you tell the guys you no longer about.
Speaker 9 (21:27):
Yeah, I'll keep that between us, but obviously got to
do a lot better.
Speaker 4 (21:31):
Wait, Steak, don't stop, Brian.
Speaker 2 (21:34):
This second game.
Speaker 9 (21:35):
You've had it home.
Speaker 3 (21:36):
We're at the end of the game's visiting fans.
Speaker 1 (21:38):
You're just having a the old place.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
I mean, are you getting word and your friends?
Speaker 5 (21:45):
Yeah, I'd be upset too if I was a fan.
Speaker 9 (21:47):
So there's a lot of things we got to do better,
and that's what we'll try to do.
Speaker 7 (21:50):
Do you feel like this season is start a spiral
a little bit on you ou?
Speaker 5 (21:54):
Yeah, it's the first quarter of the season.
Speaker 9 (21:56):
There's a long way to go, but certainly a lot
of things we got to do better.
Speaker 3 (22:00):
Friend, you have enough handle on boy exactly is wrong
to be able to confidently say you can have a
plan to fix it in time for time.
Speaker 5 (22:08):
I have a lot of confidence in the guys in
the room.
Speaker 6 (22:09):
I know.
Speaker 9 (22:10):
It's the results haven't shown up. We've you know, we
took some pretty bad beatings.
Speaker 5 (22:15):
But you own it and you move on.
Speaker 9 (22:17):
And you got a lot of confidence in the players
and the coaches, and we gotta do a better job.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
There's brianople. I don't think Pat was going to ask
one more quite Pat, Patt?
Speaker 4 (22:28):
Listen, we yeah, Pat, magnav Pat. We recovered this, Pet,
all right. We covered all the If I forced you to,
who would you give a game ball?
Speaker 2 (22:38):
Now?
Speaker 1 (22:38):
See, now here's the thing we talk about the media
asking bad questions, and that happens a lot, right you
get you get the media asking a lot of bad
questions during postgame press conferences and not getting answers and
not getting not getting what what helps anything, And then
you get a night like tonight. Well you could tell
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those those giants reporters like not that they smell blood,
but they knew we gotta get answers on this. There
was no let up. There was no hey, all right,
enough pat And then someone said, uh, Brian, what was
the best part of tonight or what what? How great
was it last year? And there was no softball questions?
(23:19):
It was no dude, everybody's pissed. You're pissed. The giants
are pissed. I'm pissed, the fans are pissed. We're all pissed.
You got to answer these questions. Now, Brian Dable can
answer the questions whoever he wants to answer them.
Speaker 4 (23:31):
But this was you could do.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
This is New York media like you could tell like
there was a sharpness in that room with all the
questions too. What were you trying to show Daniel on
the iPad? What did you say to him? What did
you want him to not do on that way and
find not throw a interception, and he got gets frustrated.
Nothing to I mean, that's the media. That's the media
doing the job after a game. That that that's staying
on topic and not just talk about the defense in
(23:55):
the first half, and and and and and what it
was that now that was that was not what you want.
That was like, if you want to be a head
coach in sports, do you want to coach in New York?
You want to coach that jedalist is that you gotta
be okay with that. You got to answer the right
things and say the right thing.
Speaker 3 (24:08):
But you know what we've been talking a lot about
through the first four weeks of this season, a lot
of chirping going back and forth, right, players, coaches, everybody
kind of letting loose. Right, Jamar Chase after yesterday's game,
I'm always open. I'm always open, Like bleeping this bleeping
that you know, everybody you know talking about you know,
(24:29):
not getting the ball enough or or whatever situationally there is.
You know, certainly in Chicago they did the same thing
with the Chase Claypool situation. They wanted to talk more
about that than anything justin fields did in the first
three quarters or for what happened in the fourth. It's like,
you're not being honest with us about what's going on
and why here locker room is fractured. Same there table,
(24:51):
like there's no dancing around it. You got into it
with the quarterback that just got signed for four years
and one hundred and sixty million dollars. He looked like
he more or less ignored you your offensive watch like
I love the one question so directs like how does
this happen? Like okay, start from there, Yeah, how does
a loss like tonight happen?
Speaker 4 (25:11):
Whoa wow? And what do you say to that?
Speaker 3 (25:14):
But like Tomlin had say some of that yesterday, even Belichick,
they're not afraid to ask him that question at this
point either like it's a different there's a different tone
and tenor to a lot of these interactions this year,
it seems. And for Dable, look he danced until he
finally just said, okay, it don't throw interception.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
Look now, here's here's the big thing about Daniel Jones, right,
and this is this is why if the Giants had
one do over, they would go back and say, let's
not give Daniel Jones that money with a franchise, right,
because Daniel Jones last year had a good year, right,
But it's not like the guy went crazy. His quarterback
rating was not even near one hundred. It was ninety.
(25:56):
It's a little bit above average. He threw for fifteen touchdowns. Yes,
he plays with his legs. Like I said, at his best,
he is a poor man's Josh Allen. And he was
able to get the Giants in the playoffs, and the
Giants had a lot of good feeling. And I understand that,
but you have to also get that all right, While
Brian Dables seemed to get what he needed to out
(26:16):
of Daniel Jones. It's not like Daniel Jones threw thirty
five touchdowns and suddenly this turned into a high octane
offense and you got locked into him for four years
and one hundred and sixty million, when you could have
franchised him for this year and said, you know what,
maybe this is let's see you do it again. Because
it's not like he was good. His rookie year was
his best year, and that was he had a couple
(26:37):
of big games, but his best year. He hasn't really
been good since twenty nineteen. He was good in twenty nineteen,
he was bad in twenty twenty, he was bad in
twenty twenty one. Somehow he gets the chance in twenty
twenty two with Brian Dable, and okay, proves it.
Speaker 4 (26:51):
Hey, maybe I do have a.
Speaker 1 (26:52):
Little bit of something. But you get a little bit
of something from the guy and you give him forty
million dollars for four buters.
Speaker 3 (26:57):
But I want to know how much you know. You've
got Brian Dable and they're advocating for him. Look look
what we did in year one. Get me another weapon
or two? Right, you got Hodgens, you bring in Hyatt,
You've got bring in Darren Waller. You'd think Saquon Barkley,
who was fantastic last year, is going to be upright now?
The offensive line, forget about the performance today. Andrew Thomas
(27:17):
hasn't been there. That's one of your high picks. Neil
has been awful, Right, there's one of your top draft picks.
He looks like a turnstyle that's much nicer than Rodney Harrison,
isn't it. So you know, America, I love you too.
But the idea is that I'd love to know how
much Brian Dabele advocated for it, saying, we got to
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bring him back. Here's what we're working on, and here's
what we need to get to that next step. But
he's the guy to do it because they don't do
it without Dables, no, without dab.
Speaker 1 (27:49):
But the Giants also have to say, yeah, that's great,
but we're gonna franchise him, but we want to keep him,
and we want to keep Saquon Barkley. Sorry, the NFL's
that you got to make a choice, right if you like.
You think Barkley, after being injured for his entire career,
now in a contract year, suddenly he's healthy all the
way through. You think that's gonna work. I let Barkley go.
I let Barkley at the street and say, you know what,
(28:10):
that's great, but you know what, we can bring a
couple of guys in and get and get the production
we need out of Saquon Barkley and let's make sure
we have the right quarterback. But instead they go all
in and Barkley's not even playing and who knows when
he's gonna play again, and how healthy he's gonna be.
And now you got Daniel Jones for this year and
next year. Now you could get out after a couple
of years, but now you're locked into a guy who
may not be salvagable at this point. And now as
(28:33):
good as a relationship was with Dable and him last year,
now look where it's at right now he's getting mad
at him on the sidelines and flipping iPads and walking
away from him. The Giants got too emotional after a
big emotional year last year. It was a feel good
year that kind of came out of nowhere. And that's
where I get. I love those years. Those are the
best years where there's no expectation and you show up
(28:53):
out of nowhere and every week is a gift and
you're stunned how good your team is and you think
about what the future is like. It's awesome, but at
the end of the year, you still have to sit
back and say, Okay, now we're in the business room
and Daniel Jones is four year, one hundred and sixty million.
What we want to do with this guy or is
it franchise him and figure it out? Franchi, that's a
smart thing. Saquon Barkley Boys. Saquon was great, but look
(29:14):
at all the other years when he couldn't stay on
the field, wasn't productive?
Speaker 4 (29:17):
Is the right thing to do? Keep him? Because we
can only franchise one of them? What do we do?
Speaker 1 (29:21):
And hard decisions have to be made because every year
is its own different entity in the NFL, and they
weren't made with the Giants. They made a lot of
these on emotion and good feeling where there was not
enough of Okay, when it comes down to it, what's
the best thing for this football team? And now they're stuck.
Now they're absolutely stuck with no way out, no way
out going forward.
Speaker 2 (29:40):
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Speaker 4 (29:50):
Is it about already so we can stop the madness?
Speaker 9 (29:55):
Well?
Speaker 4 (29:55):
I just mentioned San Francisco. No oh, you mentioned Vegas too.
It's not the band, it's the genre. But this is
genre's crack.
Speaker 7 (30:06):
This is you take that back, Mike.
Speaker 4 (30:09):
The genre.
Speaker 1 (30:10):
Look, the genre is all the bands from the early
two thousands. It's from an era where the lead singer
sounds like he's sixteen and he holds a skateboard while
he sings.
Speaker 4 (30:20):
On stage.
Speaker 7 (30:20):
I did when I listened to this.
Speaker 4 (30:21):
Yeah, yeah, okay, that's that's the genre.
Speaker 8 (30:24):
Of about a sports story connected to that, it's a
Zach Zach Wow Swift, it's Swift. Why wouldn't I just
play Taylor Swift?
Speaker 4 (30:35):
That it's because you're you.
Speaker 1 (30:37):
Well, that's true, because I would say, hey, play Taylor
Swift and you would play Katy Perry. I'm sorry, Paul,
Katy Perry is I don't know if you know, I
don't know. Okay, that's what you would do. I just
shot Zach.
Speaker 5 (30:51):
Daniel.
Speaker 1 (30:52):
You would play Daniel by Elton John. You don't know
Elton johnnys You would play Seahawks, see hawk.
Speaker 7 (31:00):
You're really overthinking this.
Speaker 4 (31:04):
Remember this.
Speaker 7 (31:04):
There's more than one sport too, right, yeah? Yeah, then
think about the other sports playoffs?
Speaker 4 (31:10):
Playoffs? Is the playoffs got something to do with Jimmy
Butler's hairs at the playoffs? Is it the playoffs?
Speaker 7 (31:16):
I feel like Mike's way closer than you guys should be, right?
Speaker 1 (31:19):
Is it?
Speaker 4 (31:19):
Flock of seagulls?
Speaker 1 (31:21):
He he a seagulls and seagulls chill uh and Jimmy
Butler's hairdo.
Speaker 4 (31:27):
Jimmy Butler's hair do Oh did I break your concentration?
I just said that literally, like right, but tysher game?
You look like that came in and was playing with
his hair. Oh, I didn't see. He was mocking those
of us that don't have it.
Speaker 7 (31:41):
What is what is the answer? What Mike just said?
Speaker 4 (31:45):
Flock of seagulls? No, keep it moving? What did he
just say?
Speaker 7 (31:50):
Jason?
Speaker 4 (31:50):
What did you say, Mike Mack?
Speaker 1 (31:52):
He's just big Monster showed me big for Monster Mac
with eight patties of the Big Mac. I said, I
got to get that after the show.
Speaker 4 (32:00):
Get one.
Speaker 3 (32:01):
You have to record the consumption and then you have
to keep the recorder on like do it like an
Instagram live that keeps going.
Speaker 4 (32:09):
So we can see how it destroys you. In the
the first Monster Mac here and I have a cardinal.
What do you want on your tomb stuff?
Speaker 2 (32:16):
He ate it?
Speaker 4 (32:17):
That's one. Look supersize my grave. Look.
Speaker 1 (32:21):
The biggest play in the NFL this week, And you
know I'm being honest when I say this, the Sauce
Gardner hold that helped cost the Jets the game against
this the Chiefs last.
Speaker 4 (32:31):
I don't know. I thought the sixth Khalil math. Yeah,
there's a lot of sacks.
Speaker 5 (32:35):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (32:37):
Look, I'm less upset at the call because as much
as it was a ridiculous call, at least it's something
we've seen before where the last two to three minutes
of the game is refereed and officiated differently than the
first fifty seven to fifty eight minutes.
Speaker 3 (32:52):
We saw that in Super Bowl last year. Oh, but
that's how it's done in the NBA. Guys clutching and grab,
and we did that fifty eight minutes.
Speaker 4 (32:57):
It's okay.
Speaker 1 (32:57):
It's not okay now, So I could just agree that,
but at least I've seen it. But what really pissed
me off about that is that the referee decides to
throw the flag after Michael Carter intercepts the ball right
like that jostling was done. The jostling was done for
a good couple of seconds. The ball was in the
air and there was no flag thrown, but the Jets
(33:19):
intercepted the ball, and then we throw the flag. We're
gonna We're gonna put Mahomes back out there, give him
a chance to win. This is where I look at
the officiating and I go wow. Sometimes I sometimes I think,
is there a meeting before a game where they go, hey,
you know who's playing, and you know where things.
Speaker 4 (33:34):
Are, you're going.
Speaker 1 (33:37):
I mean, I look at stuff like that, because how
could you not after seeing that that, It's just how
is that call?
Speaker 4 (33:42):
How is that call made? So he hold him?
Speaker 1 (33:45):
Apparently he held him. Apparently he only held him because
the Jets intercepted the ball. Because if he if that
was a hold, he throws that flag right away. It's
holding right right, I hold it. He's got him, he's
got him. I'm throwing it down now. I don't think
it was a penalty because that was the way it
was played the whole game. But they decide to do
it late in the game at least I understand that.
But any double clutches at the flag like, no, no,
(34:08):
I gotta throw. I mean, how do you wait? It's
either holding or it's not. So what you're telling me is,
I'm gonna wait and see how the play comes out. Oh,
it comes out in the jets favor, I'm gonna throw
the flag. So what I'm thinking of is that if
the Chiefs catch that ball, he doesn't throw the flag,
but because that ball was was picked off by the Jets,
he throws the flag. I bet you if it just
fell incomplete, he would have thrown the flag as well.
(34:30):
But something. If it's positive for the Chiefs, I'm gonna
leave it. But if it's positive for the Jets, I'm
gonna throw the flag. That's what pissed me off about it,
because this wasn't just hey, here's a penalty, I'm throwing
the flag. It was I'm waiting and I'm gonna I'm
gonna play god and decide I'm gonna throw the flag
for whatever reason I want to throw it. That's you
think about it, And there's no way you can't not
think about something like that. Well, I think you're just
(34:52):
convinced that everybody's out to get you.
Speaker 4 (34:57):
It's the old.
Speaker 3 (35:00):
You know, just because you're paranoid doesn't mean there isn't
somebody or something out to get you.
Speaker 4 (35:04):
That is true.
Speaker 3 (35:05):
In this particular case, I would agree, no flag, that's
the way you called it. But by the letter of
the law, you could see where well they would and
the referee waiting is like basketball, like soccer, it's like,
all right, what's the outcome? Did they still get a
shot off that they didn't interfere enough? In basketball? Ah,
(35:26):
he missed the shot, all right, he gets two shots
to make up for it. So sorry, Saw, she got
called for one that you've gotten away with many others.
Speaker 4 (35:36):
That's what really pissed me off.
Speaker 1 (35:38):
Coming up next, got a big story out of baseball
heading in the playoffs and something huge on Monday Night Football.
Speaker 4 (35:43):
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