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Speaker 4 (01:11):
Oh? Yeah you did?

Speaker 3 (01:12):
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Mar for a little bit of wagering and things of
that nature. So you know, you got it all on
it every Saturday over here at Fox Word Radio.

Speaker 4 (01:25):
Yeah, it's fun show.

Speaker 5 (01:27):
Working with Brian Know, who is a sports better and
working with Jared Smith, who is a betting analyst, has
been kind of an eye opening experience because you know,
you you really do realize where the pros and the
sharks have got the general public's numbers because I I

(01:48):
I mean, I'm not referring to Brian Know as a
professional better, but he talks about betting a lot. He
frequently bets, he he has action on WNBA props, he
talks about, you know, the misses in the makes that
he has in his own life. And then Jared Smith,
obviously a study of the game of sports betting. When
we do our rapid fire picks, I am often in

(02:11):
last place. I I it's it's because I am Johnny Public.
I am as green and wet behind the ears as.

Speaker 4 (02:19):
You could possibly be.

Speaker 5 (02:21):
And it's it's very funny to see how I'll stumble
where they'll soar. Sometimes it's it's it's interesting, but you
know it's It's true you can become better at gathering
information and using that information to create smart betting strategies,
and and listening to those two guys, especially on our show,

(02:43):
can can lead you to making better decisions. Whereas I'm
a little bit more shoot from the hip type, a
little bit more of a gunslinger, like call me the
Brett Favre of the group.

Speaker 3 (02:53):
Nicely done, which means you're getting intercepted and run back,
as in your wallt empty down with I'm kind of
no I did it would you did the bread far
of analogy and I took it too far at Hoornberger
where you find him in the Twitter verse find me
over at swallowing up. You know, it's funny, long long
ago on the fantasy shows here on the network, it

(03:14):
was I've been here long enough to where I used
to get the occasional note. Could you stop talking about
the betting guys like well, that kind of helps inform
when they've got an over under on you know, rushing
yards or whatever statistic you want in terms of how
we're ranking guys. Just just see, you know, still fell

(03:34):
on deaf years. It was like, don't do that. I
was like, okay, it was supposed to be part of
that whole Tony Romo thing all those years ago in Vegas.
You know, we had all those panels and guys were gonna,
you know, talk about fantasy football because they were making
money off it, and they said, well, let's go capitalize
a bit more in the NFL said yeah, no, you're
not gonna do that. All these years later, now you've

(03:54):
got signage everywhere. I can't wait for the fire suit,
like the like a NASCAR thing for NFL players and
the full immersion.

Speaker 4 (04:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (04:05):
Yeah, listen, I look at I look at all of this,
as you know. I mean, in some ways it's enlightening
because I think it's bringing something that has been in
the dark shadows of the sports viewer or or a
person who pays attention to sports their consciousness. You've always

(04:27):
known that sports betting was going on. You've been a
part of it. Maybe super Bowl pools or those grids
you know once a year.

Speaker 4 (04:35):
Maybe maybe you're more advanced than that.

Speaker 5 (04:37):
Maybe occasionally at a party, you know you'll take a side.
Maybe you're closer to the odds than other people. Maybe
when you're in Vegas during March, you know, you'll throw
a couple of tickets in the window on your favorite
college hoops teams. Like, there's a variety of experiences that
people have had with sports betting or closeness or proximity
to it. But if there's one thing that has I

(05:00):
think collectively raise the IQ of the sports viewer or
the person who cares about sports in this country is
the proliferation of.

Speaker 4 (05:10):
These betting apps.

Speaker 5 (05:12):
You know, there's so much more information being spread around
about players, about spots that teams are in, and a
more deep and nuanced understanding of some of the things
that happened during the course of a season or a postseason,
and leads to making better decisions in.

Speaker 4 (05:32):
That space if you pay attention to.

Speaker 5 (05:35):
It, which is almost unavoidable at this point. And like
you said, Mikey, it's always been intertwined anyways, it's just
now being illuminated now people are more aware of it.

Speaker 4 (05:47):
I don't think it's a bad thing necessarily.

Speaker 5 (05:49):
I think it's it's probably taken a lot of the
conversation that was happening anyways out of the shadows and
into the light, which is probably a healthier, a healthier
place to be.

Speaker 3 (06:00):
Yeah, changing the discussion of how we look at players
and the analytics for sure, and what you're watching, and
you get some in the broadcast and more numbers being
pushed out as to you know, decision trees by coordinators
and their histories, et cetera. I mean, it's all trying
to make us better, smarter students of the game. And
if you can win a buck or two along the way,

(06:23):
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can take us with you wherever you go. But I'd
be remiss we didn't jump off the betting and countdown
talk into well the odds in the AFC North the

(07:25):
Steelers plus five fifty. They are the predicted third in
the division. I add of the woeful Cleveland Browns, who
we chronicled going all the way back to our one
podcast will go up. You can hear that whole conversation
and what Ersay and everybody had to say about the
setup for this year, including a little conversation on arch Manning.
But the Ravens are the favorite follow out the Bengals

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as they're finally getting things all squared away. It looks
like Hendrickson shows up tomorrow and should probably be signed
in short order, well in advance of the opener. But
last Hour started with a little bit of the Jerry
Doula talking about how Aaron Rodgers can spin it and
what he's seen in training camp and all of the
you know, the rays of light from the heavens above

(08:08):
coming off of that right arm twenty eight and eleven
a year ago, rich sixty three percent completion rate for
Rogers with those two weapons DeVante Adams and Garrett Wilson
leading the charge for him. Well, no Wilson here, change
up a little bit, but lofty expectations as we have
each and every year because of Mike Tomlin's streak. Can

(08:31):
the Steelers keep the streak alive in terms of not
having a losing season? But more importantly, we got to
ask the billion dollar question at all? Can they actually
win a playoff game? Something they haven't done since twenty seventeen?

Speaker 4 (08:47):
Great question, h.

Speaker 5 (08:50):
My knee jerk reaction is yes, because when you have
an elite coach, which in my opinion, Mike Tomlin is.
I know there's some people with the playoff win drought
would argue otherwise, but I do still feel very strongly
that he's a great manager of personalities. Obviously, he's got
a great sense of staff needs in terms of his

(09:12):
coaching staff.

Speaker 4 (09:14):
He's a players coach.

Speaker 5 (09:15):
Every player, former teammate, or peer in the NFL who
I've spoken to about their time playing in Pittsburgh under
Mike Tomlin has only lauded him. I don't think I've
heard anybody say anything particularly negative about him. That's kind
of hard to come by. In the NFL. There's always

(09:38):
a complaint, but overall it is complimentary when talking about
Mike Tomlin, you know. So you look at that one
aspect of it, Yeah, you know, they're pretty hemmed up
at head coach. Then you look at the other most
major area of importance for any NFL team to have success,
it's the quarterback position, and the quarterback position in in

(10:00):
this case, they're also in really good shape. And I
know what everybody's been saying about Aaron Rodgers, and I
get it. I get it because it did not look
good with the New York Jets. And I understand to
some Aaron rodgers honesty and openness and self interests and
maybe political views are detestable.

Speaker 4 (10:21):
And that's fine.

Speaker 5 (10:22):
You can have any opinion of anybody you want, especially
when they avail themselves to criticism the way that Aaron
Rodgers does. He doesn't seem to care whether you like
him or not. He's just speaking his mind and speaking
his mind freely. But in terms of like his his
individual performances, they still hold up Aaron Rodgers is still

(10:45):
at very least a top fifteen quarterback in the NFL,
if not a top ten performer in the NFL in
a lot of metrics, and I know I'm talking about statistics,
but we have advanced analytics now, Mike, and I know
you pay attention to these two, like you know, success
rate of throws and things like yards per completion and

(11:10):
some of the more advanced ones like bad throws, like
we can actually say objectively when a quarterback throws a ball,
whether it should have been intercepted or not, whether it
was thrown to the right area on the receiver or not.
And he still rates insanely high in some of those
more nuanced stats. As a matter of fact, when you
compare him to the NFL's MVP last year, Josh Allen,

(11:34):
there's a lot of metrics where Aaron Rodgers really holds
up or defeats Allen statistically. Now, he didn't have as
much team wide success as Allan. I'm not saying he
had a better season than Allen. I'm just saying it
holds up. It doesn't pale in comparison, so to you know,
to kind of go back to the original question, Yeah,

(11:55):
I think this could be a good year for the
Steelers if they put a couple other things together.

Speaker 3 (12:00):
The curiosity, right, how much he gels with Arthur Smith
or does he kind of just push him to the side.
I just say, I'm running this stuff.

Speaker 4 (12:12):
Yeah, that's look.

Speaker 5 (12:14):
We know that that relationship has been tenuous in the past,
and I'm talking about Aaron Rodgers. Working with any offensive coordinator,
there have been opinions on how things should be ran.

Speaker 4 (12:25):
But Arthur Smith is a bright guy.

Speaker 5 (12:28):
And I think he's gotten a lot out of a
lot less talented quarterbacks than Aaron Rodgers in this league.

Speaker 4 (12:35):
And this is a tough league to win in. This
is a tough league.

Speaker 5 (12:38):
To prepare quarterbacks who are less than satisfactory to have success,
and Arthur Smith has shown that he's able to do
that now. As a head coach, mixed results obviously wasn't perfect,
But as a coordinator.

Speaker 4 (12:55):
He's done some special things in his career and there's
no arguing with that.

Speaker 5 (12:59):
So I'm curious how he accommodates Aaron Rodgers. I'm curious
how they gel together as well. But he's gotten a
lot more than he'll need to out of much less
talented quarterbacks than Aaron Rodgers in the past.

Speaker 4 (13:14):
So I know I'm very bullish.

Speaker 5 (13:17):
Right now on the Steelers, and it is still very
much so wait and see, But I'm I think it
could work, man, I really do well.

Speaker 3 (13:26):
Certainly plenty in the cupboard over under his eight and
a half wins nice in the meaty part of the
curve as we Lloyd look at it. But you go
back to last year, it's Fields and Wilson. You go
back before that, it's Picket, Rudolph Trubisky, then Picket and Trubisky,
Roethlisberger and Rudolph for a couple of years when Roethlisberger
was really at the end of his run. You have

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the Mason Rudolph, Duck Hodges Roethlisberger combination before that. So
for the Steelers winning and keeping that streak alive in
spite of all the quarterback channels. And we look at
the roster as currently constituted, you have metcalf and Robert Woods,
and now Woods has had long tenured a lot of

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Pelts up on the wall and a lot of teams,
so literally Jerseys up on the wall from his travels.
But if healthy, solid number two Calvin Austin has shown
in spots. You got Roman Wilson, you're expecting bigger things
from you make the big acquisition bringing in John hu
Smith to pair him with Pat Fryarmouth. I wanted to
have some fun with that video the other day, but

(14:30):
there's no good audio that came out of it where
Rogers checked down and you had Friarmuth throwing up his
hands in disgust. It's like I thought that we really
was gonna get some more play. So that was interesting.
Jalen Warren now the number one, but Caleb Johnson out
of Iowa you're number two. And you add Kenneth Gainwell
as well, who's shown a bit in Philadelphia. So you've

(14:53):
got plenty of weaponry to dispatch there for Aaron Rodgers
and Arthur Smith. Defensive the ball, you know they're always
going to be tough. So yeah, they had eight and
a half. Number seems perhaps a little bit light, but
from Mike Tomlin, it really does come down to can
you win, because even in some of the public comments
from ownership, they don't make changes, but they seem a

(15:16):
bit perturbed where they're running in place these last couple
of years.

Speaker 5 (15:20):
Right, And I'll be super brief here, but in terms
of the impatience from Steelers fans and even in this case,
you just brought up the ownership, I get it, But
where is the grass greener its? Do want to at
some point move on from Tomlin? Where are you going
to turn to where it's going to be better than Tomlin?
And the answer is good luck, good luck if that's

(15:43):
the choice you make.

Speaker 3 (15:44):
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on the nightly basis is a Jets guy I had
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(17:26):
around the league as long as he has. But we'd
be remiss if we didn't send out a little note
of prayers and support to the good folks in Hawaii
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(17:48):
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Hawaii and Alaska on high alert and this is developing.
There was an estimate that whatever portion of it, however strong,
that it would hit shores here in southern California around

(18:11):
one am. So keeping an eye on this as more
and more information flows. But scary stuff as the next
natural disaster appears imminent.

Speaker 5 (18:25):
Yeah, it's frightening when things like this happen because you
it reminds you how little we actually have control over,
you know what I mean, Like, you know, we're on
a daily basis. You go through your life and you
don't think much about the actual world that we're living
on until you know, it burps funny and then all

(18:46):
of a sudden, people literally run for the hills. And
that's what this is. I mean, this is just what
you learned in earth science in sixth or eighth grade
at your middle school. It's you know, tectonic plate action. Yeah,
you know a couple of divergent zones, and all of

(19:07):
a sudden you have a natural disaster on your hands. So,
like you said, Mikey, we're thinking of all of you
out there, who are who are you know taking precautionary measures,
and you should be heed the advice of people who
know better than you do in these situations. You'll never
regret maybe over preparing uh and and and not having

(19:32):
to worry about damages to the home you left behind
for a few hours, but you will regret it, you know,
if you're stuck in Waiste high water and currents are rushing,
So yeah, get if.

Speaker 4 (19:42):
You can get to safety, please do.

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And while you're doing it, if there's anything we can
pass along, we absolutely will.

Speaker 3 (19:49):
Yeah, we'll be keeping an eye on this all the
The directors and person emergency personnel are having their their
pressor now to try to give whatever information they have,
and the Bulletin's scary stuff though, when we start seeing
the emergency broadcast signals popping up on the news channels,

(20:11):
I mean, certainly day to day, as you mentioned so brilliantly,
they're rich. You try to get through your day as
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from whatever. The serious nature is. Not that we don't
talk serious subjects here, sports is, but it's still the
play zone oftentimes talking about games, box scores, prodigious home

(20:33):
runs and things of that ilk So we'll keep an
eye on this as we continue. But back to the
business of sports Jason Smith Show with me, Mike Carmen
rich Ornberger in for Jason. So this list from ESPN
that they put out the metric where they're ranking squads,
number of starts made by players under twenty five, number

(20:53):
of snaps from players under twenty five, quality of play
age adjusted numbers, a lot of metrics that go through,
but ultimately trying to figure out, you know, the youth
served and building the perfect beast towards the winner. The
number one ranked squad in this is Houston. Then you've

(21:13):
got Seattle, Washington, who obviously had the huge come up
last year with Jaden Daniels and what they were able
to put together. He and Cliff Kingsbury and company. Now
they retool and bring in Deebo Samuel. The Giants are
fourth in terms of youth, and I'll let everybody else.
I want to pause for about a second and a
half and let you write your punchline two three. Yesterday

(21:36):
you were talking about injuries and notices in training camp.
Now we know Malik Neighbors has ongoing foot and potentially
his shoulder issue that he may have dodged, so all
of those things. But when you know you're around the
locker room, and certainly you go back to the Belichick
days and later on with Arizona, you know, the locker

(21:56):
room and trying to feel what's what's just right, not
too hot, not too cold, trying to find the right
temperature and mix, particularly when the front office changes are
so perilous year after year, because we talk yearly. Rich
you and I have done this these shows together for
years where you have just a handful of teams, which

(22:18):
is why you go back to Pittsburgh's again, they changed
out a GM, but it was a guy that was
already in the building, right, so Omar Kahan got a
couple of years and now he's the guy, and he
got a contract extension and it's his vision with a
team that's been in place. Very few NFL teams can
we say the same. So all of that, it becomes
this trying to have that mix of art and science

(22:42):
to get together. And I'm curious, you know, from your
experience around the league and talking to folks, you know,
as while you were playing in post career, of you
know just what the feeling is around. Certainly for economic purposes,
you'd love to have a lot of starters sitting there
at twenty two to twenty three, which means you've hit
on a bunch of drafts and dart throwing at times.

(23:05):
But we know all too well me a Bears guy
winning the offseason doesn't do a whole lot once they
start flying for real.

Speaker 5 (23:15):
Yeah, yeah, listen, you can crunch the numbers and say, okay, metrically,
the best teams have a mix of like you mentioned,
kind of the dart throwing that happens in the NFL draft,
young players who are huge contributors to your success because

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arguably they'll be with you for years to come. You know,
the goal is to hit on draft picks and then
retain that talent before these players reach free agency. This
way you get them for a cheaper price than the
open market would dictate their worth.

Speaker 4 (23:52):
Right.

Speaker 5 (23:53):
That is the goal of every NFL franchise. Doesn't always
work out that way, but that is the goal, trust me.
When your build a roster. Secondarily, you do need to
have veteran leadership that can direct the team. And then
not only leadership, but also those leaders need to be
main contributors to whether it's on special teams offensively or defensively.

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You need to have talented players who also have cachet
in the locker room and people, even people who are
potentially more talented than those veteran leaders, they still will
listen to them because they have stage wisdom. So that's
an important aspect of it. And then also you need
to have a coaching culture, which often doesn't get discussed

(24:41):
when talking about roster construction, but a coaching culture that
matches the type of player that is in the building.
What happens sometimes is there's disconnect between the front office
and the coaches. Coaches put in their requests for players,
general manager and pro personnel directors they go a different

(25:03):
way with some of their selections or their opinions on
what's going to build a stronger team may differ with
some of the personality choices or the culture choices that
coaches are making or interested in, and that's when things can.

Speaker 4 (25:19):
Get a little bit out of whack. So, yeah, you.

Speaker 5 (25:21):
Can pay attention to you know, ages, and you can
pay attention to you know, system fit. You can pay
attention to a lot of different aspects. But look, Mike,
you know this as well as I do. Special teams,
they're kind of these very fleeting, nuanced ideas that you

(25:45):
you know, sometimes you can grab a hold of it
for years and create a dynasty, but oftentimes it's just
for one moment in one year, the stars coalesced in
the right way to create the perfect storm or the
successful product you were hoping for in and then before
you know it, it disintegrates in front of your eyes and
it's back to the to the starting line, you know.

(26:07):
It's It's interesting, though, when you hear in the preseason
how certain teams are built up for success and they underperform.
And it's because games aren't one on paper, They're going
to be decided between the white lines.

Speaker 3 (26:21):
That's just it. We try to parse out the data.
I want to ask you about one team in particular
team you played for nineteenth on this list, they were
six to a year ago, twenty seven year old quarterback
Kyler Murray. Can he actually lead them forward after all
of these false starts, great starts to seasons? Can they
actually finish the job with a retooled defense and the

(26:45):
rise up perhaps of Marvin Harrison junior.

Speaker 4 (26:50):
Man.

Speaker 5 (26:50):
I hope so, because I think it's a better league
when you have a Kyler Murray who was playing with
his hair on fire because.

Speaker 4 (27:02):
He has been this man.

Speaker 5 (27:06):
How how can I describe him that accurately portrays him?

Speaker 4 (27:11):
I say it his best.

Speaker 3 (27:12):
He gin his like Sonic the Hedgehog running around. Yeah,
like his hair's on fire with and he's and he's
got a cannon for an arm. But little guy. And
when he starts moving, it's like you always wonder it's
like the old Baby Brute tape. Did they speed it
up as he's running around the bass.

Speaker 4 (27:29):
Yeah, like the legs are kicking so fast. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (27:33):
I really enjoy watching Kyler Murray play. I think he's
a great competitor. I think he's a super talent, but
I think he's been on the fringe of greatness.

Speaker 4 (27:42):
You know, It's like.

Speaker 5 (27:42):
He's hanging on to the last rung of the ladder
to be considered one of the top quarterbacks in the
NFL year after year after year, and it's like you're
waiting for the final puzzle.

Speaker 6 (27:54):
It's like you've that's what That's the best comparison I
could come up with Kyler Murray his career. It's like
you built the puzzle, but you're like missing one piece
in the corner and an annoying piece in the middle
of the puzzle.

Speaker 5 (28:07):
That you know, I mean, you knew it was in
the box. You've done this puzzle before, but it's a
really important piece, Like it's a piece of the face,
like like one of the people in the portrait missing
an eye, like, and you need that.

Speaker 4 (28:21):
For it to be a complete puzzle.

Speaker 5 (28:22):
Like it's just there's something missing, and I don't know
what it is. Maybe it's Harrison Junior advancing, becoming more
comfortable in their system or becoming a bigger contributor at
some point in his career.

Speaker 4 (28:35):
But I do know this.

Speaker 5 (28:36):
I think a more competitive NFC West with a well
led team like the LA Rams with Sean mcvahan Matthew
Stafford at the Helm with a well led team like
the San Francisco forty nine ers, you know, with a.

Speaker 4 (28:51):
Guy like.

Speaker 5 (28:53):
John Lynch making pulling the strings behind the scenes, and
Kyle Shanahan and an emerging star in Brock Party who's
coming on you know a year with an enormous contract
attached to him now. And then a team like Seattle
who seems like they're trying to pull it together with
Mike McDonald, and we'll see what that looks like. But

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if Arizona can put it together, if Kyler Murray can
put it together, man, the NFC West could all of
a sudden become one of the most interesting conferences or
divisions rather in football again.

Speaker 4 (29:25):
And so can it happen? Yes? The answer is absolutely yes.
They have the tools in the desert. Will it happen?

Speaker 5 (29:32):
I have my sincere doubts because, like I said, all
of Kyler Murray's career, it always feels like there's been
one puzzle piece missing.

Speaker 3 (29:40):
Yeah, it's funny, as you mentioned, you know McDonald, and
I immediately my brother sent me something earlier with a
screenshot of the What's Happening open He goes. You see
the screenshot, you're immediately humming the theme song from what's
happening in the old seventies? And you also it might
be in your head thinking of a Doobie Brothers song,

(30:03):
who coincidentally also were on a two part special two
part episode about taping concerts on What's Happening? See it
all comes together to the Doobie Brothers and Michael McDonald.
See what you did to me?

Speaker 4 (30:16):
There?

Speaker 3 (30:16):
You took me down the rabbit hole? Nicely done? There,
nicely done. Gosh, Now you're gonna think about growing a
beard and becoming a I might a singer. There you go, I.

Speaker 5 (30:29):
Might die my beard white in honor of I Boy.
If there's one person I love is Michael McDonald to
celebrate his entire catalog good Man good Man.

Speaker 3 (30:39):
At Hornberger where you find and find me over at
Swallowing Dome. Now the person will celebrate their entire catalog
right now. He's a legend of himself. I have all
of his albums. It's Steve Disager.

Speaker 4 (30:51):
What are we're here? And here?

Speaker 3 (30:55):
So what's happening? Attempting to dribble a basketball down is
Thomas Twain and Rock and we run Stub's a great
Fred Barry Well, we got one one game still going
in the Major League tonight. That's in Anaheim.

Speaker 7 (31:12):
Angels lead seven to five over Texas in the bottom
of the eighth innings. San Diego has beaten the Mets
seven to one. Juan Soto, the Mets left this game,
fouled the ball off his foot. The injury is called
a bruise. Manny Machado a three run homer. The Mets
are first in the NL East, but just a half
game over the Phillies now, who won six to three
at the White Sox. Kyle Schwarber in his thirty seventh

(31:32):
home run. Miami and the A's with wins. Houston ended
a five game losing streak with a seven to four
win over Washington. Pittsburgh handed San Francisco a fifth straight loss,
three to one, two runs in the eighth. Pirates have
won seven of eight. Kansas City nine to six over Atlanta.

Speaker 4 (31:49):
The Braves.

Speaker 7 (31:50):
Ronald Acuna left with achilles tightness. He's in a walking boot.
Boston an eight to five win at Minnesota. Milwaukee beat
the Cubs again, nine to three. They lead the Cubs
by two games in the NL Central. The Brewers Jackson
Churio left with a hamstring issue. The Dodgers won at
Cincinnati five to four with a run in the top
of the ninth, So the Dodgers first in the NS,

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still four games up on the Padres, and that lead
was nine just a few weeks ago. The Dodgers in
these last few weeks now have a record of seven
and thirteen wins for Detroit and Cleveland. Yankees beat Tampa
Bay seven to five. Cody Bellinger hit a three run homer,
and Baltimore has won five in a row. They swept
a double header from first place Toronto sixteen to four.

(32:31):
In the opener, Orioles hit four homers in that game,
makeup game from a rainout in April, and Baltimore took
the nightcap three to two over the Blue Jays with
a run in the bottom of the eight. You mentioned
earlier there was a trade during the double header. Toronto
acquired reliever Sir Anthony Dominguez from Baltimore, so we actually
to start game two switched. Bullpens actually had to walk

(32:54):
past his now former teammates to go.

Speaker 3 (32:56):
To visitors bullpen hey, good run.

Speaker 4 (33:00):
He came in the.

Speaker 7 (33:00):
Game and struck out two of his former teammates in
the seventh inning. Trade deadline is Thursday. Bengals defensive end
Trey Hendrickson will report to training camp on Wednesday. He's
been holding out for a new contract. He led the
league in sacks last year. The Jets signed veteran kicker
Nick Folk. Tight End Isaiah Likely of the Ravens will
miss a few weeks after rolling his ankle at practice.

(33:22):
Brown's defensive back Martin Emerson was carted off at practice
with an achilles injury, a non contact injury. Three Chiefs
wide receivers left practice early today, including Hollywood Brown with
an ankle injury. Denver linebacker Alex Singleton will miss about
a week after surgery for a broken thumb. Lions defensive
back Terry and Arnold left practice due to a hamstring injury.

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The Lions are in the Hall of Fame exhibition Thursday
against the Chargers. LA will start quarterback Trey Lance. He
could play into the third quarter. The Chargers to have
a first round running back of Marion Hampton of North Carolina.
He'll be playing and then Saturday and Canon. The new
Hall of Fame class will be Enshrine, which includes ex
Charger and Tony Gates. And Yes, NFL offices will remain

(34:03):
closed through next week after yesterday's shooting in the building
in New York.

Speaker 3 (34:07):
Back to you, thanks so much, Steve. Steve de Saga
at the news desk. We're keeping an eye on Hawaii
under a tsunami watch expected to hit some half hour
from now. We'll be keeping an eye on that as
it develops and keeping you aprized. Of course, he's rich
Orberger in for Jason Smith. I'm Mike Carbon coming up next.
We'll stay into the theater of the absurd. Yes, the

(34:28):
big crowds, singing, dancing. The revolution will now be televised
on a whole other level. Are you watching?

Speaker 4 (34:36):
Are you in?

Speaker 3 (34:37):
You can tell me now.

Speaker 2 (34:37):
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all the unboxing videos for a minute to try to
coach again.

Speaker 4 (35:22):
Who is it?

Speaker 3 (35:23):
Well, well, we'll get you in on that one as
we roll forward. But as we look to the televisation
of sports and the fracturing of our viewing horizons, here
rich with all the different streaming services. One of the
most popular new sports, which is a twist on one

(35:44):
you love the national past time, Savannah Bananas announced to
deal with TNT Sports that's starting in mid August and
running through the Banana Ball Tour Championship game on October eleventh.
True TV and HBO Max. True TV usually part of
our fun and excitement of the NCAA Men's tournament where

(36:05):
it's televised and we play the game that everybody tries
to copy. Is this a real True TV show or
not that Jason he comes out of his dome. Between
True TV and HBO Max, they're going to play nineteen
of these games. They're gonna tell avise nineteen games. You
got PNC Park a little bit at Yankee Stadium, tea mobile.

(36:27):
I mean we're talking about selling out mass arenas you know.
Later on this week we've got the game coming from
Bristol in Tennessee where they've sold out sold eighty five
thousand seats to the Bowl Ring. Crazy is that? I
mean we're talking crazy crowds. So what we've watched with
the bananas a bit here, we've seen some of it
in studio. Look, it's not one that I'm necessarily trying

(36:49):
to get in. I know, folks have entered a lot
of ticket lotteries for when it was down by you
and San Diego and different events where they're selling out stadiums.
You're bringing back a legendary players and artists. I mean,
this is a whole other revenue enhancement. And now i'm
i'm my interest is peaked as to how big this

(37:12):
can get. Harlem Globe Trotters were big when we were kids.
We've talked about it a little bit. You go to
that and you know the circus and all those things
of yesteryear. Now this is the combination of everything. This
goes back to the p T Barnum comparison of Jerry Jones.
That's what these guys are doing. And he looks like
the man with the yellow hats. So we're gonna hat
curious George Noises while we're at it.

Speaker 5 (37:33):
Yeah, I mean, what's amazing about the Savannah bananas or
exhibitions in you know, the sports well, I shouldn't even
say sports adjacent. I mean it is sports. They're they're
obviously talented players. They have some tricks. Let's call it
like league adjacent adjacent exhibitions like the Globe Trotters, you

(37:54):
know what I mean. That's that's what this sort of
that's the lane this sort of run into. But it's
like the Globe Trotters of this generation. You know, there's
a little more edge, a little bit more social media intrigue.
I remember when I was a kid, the Globe Trotters
would appear on Saturday morning cartoons.

Speaker 4 (38:13):
You know what I mean like that.

Speaker 5 (38:16):
At one point, So, I mean, you know, absolutely absolutely
it was. It was a brand that was marketed to
the masses and it worked. That is that is a
very similar phenomenon right now happening with this event of bananas.
They've they've created a they've cornered a market, they found
a void, and the marketing has been brilliant. The social

(38:38):
media buying, especially early adopters to you know, TikTok and
things like that, Instagram reels, they've gone viral so many times,
and like you said, now they're holding full blown concerts
and inviting celebrities to collaborate with them.

Speaker 4 (38:54):
It's brilliant. It's it's absolutely brilliant.

Speaker 3 (38:57):
Now I have to ask. There was something that went
viral only yesterday. I don't know if you saw it.
Uh CNN doing a feature on the bananas. The guy
tried to do a backflip and he face planted. I'm
then said that he got paid extra to take a dive,
because if he just appeared on CNN, nobody cares. But
the fact that he face planned and took one for

(39:17):
the team, that's kind of what I believe here. He
took a he took a bump. To go full WWE parlance,
I need a.

Speaker 5 (39:25):
Bump, But the way he did it, I mean, man,
usually you brace yourself a little bit. He would he
sold out if that was a bump. He went face
to floor, He went forehead to to uh to to
cedar Pine.

Speaker 4 (39:41):
I mean it was it was that was a thrust man.
It's uh yeah. Let's put it this way.

Speaker 5 (39:48):
If there's a way to sell your product and go
viral in front of the masses, that that is one
way to do it. Like they said, there's no such
thing as bad publicity.

Speaker 4 (39:57):
There's only publicity.

Speaker 3 (39:59):
You gotta love it to see an anchor that that
what you saw just there as a brand new twist
in America's favorite pastime instead of hey is that guy? Okay? Nope,
stuck to the stuck to the monitor and the telepromper.
You gotta love that, no question about it. At Hornberger,
I'll be curious to say what kind of ratings they draw,
and that the crowds keep flowing but selling out these

(40:20):
stadiums left and right, standing room and starting to get
more bands and entertainment on board at Hornburger where you
find rich find me over at Swollendome coming out next
we get back into the NFL. Maybie college football, I
don't know we're gonna talk about it. Can a guy
get back on the sideline as a coach? We'll tell
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