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this content out for you every single night. Now, speaking
of TV, speaking of YouTube, speaking of replay, a story
that seemed kind of charming with a little bit of
a oh, how funny is that all of a sudden
in the last hour has become a hey man, this
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is a real serious thing. The Giants and the Padres
are headed to the ninth inning in San Diego. The
Giants lead the Padres four to three. This is a
four nothing lead by the Giants, and the game would
be four to four if not for a home run
by the pandre zagerboat Xander Bogarts, which was overruled due
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to fan interference. And this has been much debateing the
replay is all over it. But it was a four
to nothing game. It's okay, that's great. Now it's four
to three, and you know, obviously doing math, if you
allow that home run to stand, it would be four
to four. Now, here's the deal. This is. This is
there's a couple of reasons why I see this and
I go wow, I don't know how you make this call.
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I know, Frostburg's like, yeah, boit, but the Giants benefit
not a leg it. So first, I don't know where
do you come down on this. The Xander Bogert's home
run that was taken away either in favor of the
Padres or in favor of the Giants. Oh, who's got
more losses? The Giants have more losses, that's for sure.
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So then I favor with them. Okay, very hard there there.
That's that's that's the way to go. So Bogerts hits
the ball and Ramos goes back and you see, goes
up to catch the ball, and the ball comes down,
hits in his glove, bounces out. Right away, Ramos looks
at the fan points, they review it and they take
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the home run out and they say fan interference. Now
a couple of reasons. Number One, the fan doesn't come
over the top, doesn't come into the field of play
to try to get the ball. Ramos is trying to
go into the stands to catch it. Right There's a
difference between a fan putting his hands out to catch
a ball and a fan going in and ripping it
out of Mooki Betts's glove. Because I patrol the right
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field corner. Nobody else does. So it's not like the
fan got you know, put his hands on the field
to catch the ball. So immediately, right away, I disagree,
he's got his he's got his glove in the stands
to try to catch it. Secondly, and I've seen a
bunch of replays and obviously we're you know, being we're
hamstrung by what we see social media wise, what we've seen,
But I don't know that that the fan touched the ball.
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The fan didn't interfere with Ramos. The ball comes down,
hits his glove, bounces out, and it's hard for me
to tell if the fan actually touched the ball because
it didn't look like the ball change direction. I mean,
clearly it could have. Now it could have hit off
the it could have hit off the fan, but I
would see that if it was, if it really hit
off the fan, it would have changed direction a little
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bit more. The ball looks like it kind of comes
straight down into Ramos's glove and it bounces out, and
they decide to call fan interference.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
Well that's the question. Like watch this replay a million times.
Don't have a second angle or anything that's gonna give
me conclusive evidence here, But do they rule that his
elbow touches the top of the glove, which then changes
where the webbing is, allowing the ball to pop out?
Is that dude straight out of Central casting, by the way,
full fu Manchu. Oh yeah, like Paul Schemes trying to
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catch that, Like is that James Headfield from the early nineties,
You know the black album Metallica. But yeah, you got
two guys that are kind of reached towards the ball.
This guy's cross armed in this whole nine yards but
wondering if they decided, you know, based on this, and
I'm trying to freeze frame it to where I can
get a definitive. Does he catch like part of the
webbing at the edge of his glove to where it's
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enough to get the ball into the crowd, because then he,
like ROBO's just looking back at the field like, hey, hey,
what are we doing here? Shilt gets thrown out and
you have chaos ensuing. But now that run awful clutch
in the competition, especially after what we saw happened this
past weekend at Dodger Stadium.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
I really, I mean, I don't know how you tell
that the ball and again the fan and again the
guy's going. Now, what you've done is you have opened
a can of worms to say anytime a player jumps
to get a ball and his glove is in the
stands and a fantu fan interference, like you have to
call it every time now because that's the this was
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not fan interference. The fan has to get has to
get into the field of play and make himself and
an obstruction and that that didn't happen. That did that
did not happen. Here Again, there's a difference between that
and Mookie Betts or other fans doing it. If the
fan jumped onto the if the ball wasn't going to
be a home run, then all right, but the ball
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was going to be a home run. I mean really,
I I am stunned that that was overturned.
Speaker 3 (05:42):
Yeah, pretty shocking because I know at Wrigley Field there
was always the the issue of the ball getting into
the ivy and and how much of a half assed
effort you gave or did you really try to find
the ball to you know, get it get it out
of the the ivy before you threw your hands up
immediately calling for the ground rule double. So well, yeah,
it's it's a curiosity here as to exactly, you know,
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how that ruling came down. Love to, you know, talk
to the guys in New York, like, did you decide, well,
you know, did you get another angle as to whether
he you know, broke the plane into the playing.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
Field or not.
Speaker 3 (06:19):
I mean, I don't know. It's curious, but certainly that
run coming.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
Back in a big way. Now, yeah, I mean clear. Look,
you think about the Padres missing the playoffs by a game,
Maybe there's this play becomes famous. Dude with the mustache
gets the Giants, take them out to dinner, The Mets
take them out to dinner. Hey, we're all feeling it.
The Reds take them out to dinner. Hey, we're all
feeling good. This guy's got a got a big victory
tour around the United States. Hey kept the Padres out
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by a game. That's awesome.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
Oh he's also got the look. I mean, you know,
I think you start thinking of baseball players past a
little bit of the the legendary late great Rod Beck
to where he had that you know, the fu man
chew and and the hair flowing and you know the
rosy cheeks. But that's what we got. Here is a
fan who took a victory lap. Did he get thrown out?
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Does he get thrown out and automatically because of a
fan interference call? I don't know what the rules of
engagement are there. Yeah, I don't like it.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
I don't. I don't like that. I don't like the
call being made there. I really don't. I don't. I
don't know how you say yes, that's uh, that was
a home run that was taken away, the ball hitting
his glove in your glove, you should catch it. The
ball couldn't have been squeezed if it was touched, could
have been touched that much Atlanta right in the webbing. Dude,
you gotta catch catch a ball. That's why I don't
believe it was touched. I don't know. I don't. I
don't know. It's really hard to say. I don't like it.
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I don't like it.
Speaker 3 (07:37):
Yeah, I keep trying to go to bruder film frame
by frame of hey did he make contact with the glove?
Speaker 1 (07:42):
Either way?
Speaker 2 (07:43):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (07:44):
Not a fan of it, certainly. It's like you get
into the crowd and into the stands, you get what
you get.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
Yeah, I don't, I don't. I don't like it.
Speaker 3 (07:52):
Again, especially if the guy's rocking the food manage the
regular guy, regular Joe sitting in the front row.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
There, come on. So again, we'll keep you posted on
this game and let you know if this is the
run that cost the Padres the game. Again four to
three in the ninth inning, the Giants are batting, so
the Padres will get one last chance. Meanwhile, Monday Night football,
and now we're in that. We're in the run of
the shows where every night, every Monday night, and we
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start now we come in. We're in the middle of
the Monday night football game, which is absolutely fantastic.
Speaker 3 (08:25):
It is that time a couple of days until Week
zero kicks off and everything goes from there.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
So tonight we watch the Bengals beat the Commanders. However,
a little bit, it's not quite as cut and dried
as you think it is where all the Bengals look great.
They beat the Commanders. Yes, the Bengals won thirty one
to seventeen. Is your final Joe Burrow looked really good,
as he has all preseason long. But Commanders were able
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to run all over the Bengals defense four plays. They
were in the end zone on their first possession without
throwing the football. Trey hendrickson where are you? Where are
your trainers? And he says, I'm not budget. I wouldn't
budge after tonight, are you kidding? After the way that
defense looked the first couple possessions, I would not budge.
Now this is more about the Bengals than it is
the Commanders, because look, the Commanders NFC Title game last year,
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they're figuring things out. You know, the Terry McLaurin thing
is starting to become an issue now ten you know,
ten twelve days left in camp before we got to
start getting game ready. But for the Bengals, I mean,
quite honestly, there is no bigger wild card team in
the NFL than Cincinnati. And I don't mean all they
gonna be a wildcard team, no, I mean they could
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go thirteen and four. I can see this offense getting
so elite, not just elite, but so elite. The big
three with Burrow and both Chases and Higgins, this can
be a terrific offense. Joe Burrow could throw for forty
five hundred yards and forty five touchdowns. He's that talented.
This offense is that good, Chase Brown is that good,
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and they can win a bunch of games or canverly
I can see Burrow getting dinged up because it happens.
They are slow out of the gate, the defense is
absolutely terrible, and they never get going and they go
five and twelve like that. I could say that I
could see the Bengals having either of those seasons easily,
and anywhere in between. There's some times like a well,
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you're too big to fail. No matter what you do,
you're not gonna be good. The Bengals can be out
of this world elite and be one of the surprise
teams in the NFL. And we could be saying in December, well,
they just had to get an extra year to get
back to where they were. They're the super Bowl team
we saw they were two and a half years ago.
And I can also see in December going they need changes,
need a new coach, need a new system, because here's
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another disappointing year. They're wasting Joe Burrow's career. All of
those things can happen. There is no bigger wild card
than the Bengals.
Speaker 3 (10:46):
Oh, they'll be wildly entertaining, no question about it. I
make the argument for Jamar Chase is the number one
players selected in your fantasy draft for this year.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
Joe Burrow.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
I would like to not see him do that little
scramble drill. It was like he was emulating all those
guys just coming out of college scrambling around before finally
taking a sack back at the three yard line. It
was one of those please go down, just get down,
don't don't actually take a hit before you. But great
preseason of work from him, obviously efficient, all the great
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talking points about hey, we need to start faster. Your
offense wasn't the problem you starting fast? And yes, obviously
going up against the defending champions, you know you have
the Eagles ran rough shot over everybody last year and
he had a rough week one. Okay, fine, how much
of that was him? How much again, is how bad
the defense was? They had four losses last year where
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they scored at least thirty points. That's in blinking red
letters every time you start talking about this squad about
how bad the defense was. Oh, and that was with
Trey Hendrickson playing. So I wouldn't get too chesty if
i'm unless i'm holding up the sign that says please
trade me. We could stay, we could stak without that.
That is my summary line to what the Bengals are.
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How much is he moving the needle in terms of
wins losses? Your defense as a whole is still bad.
Your offensive line is suspected best. So you're running around,
You're gonna score a lot of points. You're gonna have
some pinball games, some great fantasy games, and that's gonna
be about it.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
So for Joe Burrow.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
Really, now it becomes the B about it. You can
talk about leading by example and playing in the preseason.
That's fantastic. Know what you need to do? You either
need to go into the front office and demand your
own damn trade or part B say all right, how
do we work out my money so this guy gets right,
so we get him in if you think he's that
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instrumental of what you're going to do here in twenty
twenty five. Otherwise history's repeating itself. We're going straight down
that highway again. They're plus two to sixty in the division,
ahead of Pittsburgh and then obviously the long shot Cleveland Browns,
but well behind the Baltimore Ravens. You're basically groundhog Day
at this point. If you're Joe Burrow with a couple
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more reps in the preseason to say.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
I did my part. I showed them my example. How
is this gonna go? Can you play defense? No, he
can't play defense, so it doesn't matter. Can you tell
me it's gonna go good? No? No, no, no. I
don't know what to tell you, man, I don't know
what to tell you. Just just again, I could see
I could see thirteen and four. I could see five
and twelve that that's how insane it is for the Bengals.
Speaker 3 (13:20):
I would say this, if you're gonna take a little
pile of money or a big pile of money, I'm
going towards the ladder. I'm gonna get a win, maybe
two against Cleveland. But if Joe Flacco is elite, what
does that mean?
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Speaker 1 (15:43):
The game that kept the Padres out of the playoffs. Wow,
fan interference home run that was taken away? I'm shocked.
Giants beat the Padres tonight four to three. Why is
that a big deal? Well, because the Padres had a
home run overturns. Andrew Boguarts hit a home run, but
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upon further review, it was taken back as interference was
ruled on the play and so instead of a solo
home run for the Padres at that time, for nothing
would have been for to one. It was still for
nothing and the Giants win it. The Padres do get three,
but three is not four. That other run would have
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made it for Maybe we're in extra innings. Maybe the
Padres missed the playoffs because of fan interference, look at
you and learning masks. What if that was Jeffrey Mayor?
What if that kid was Jeffery What if that guy
with the with the mustache because he got a big
fu manchew much. What if that was Jeffrey Mayor thirty
years later? That would be some next level stuff, right,
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Maybe it could be about that history, about that age.
Now the home run, you've seen it a bunch of times.
We talked about a few minutes ago, but now it's
a thing because the game ended, and now the Padres lose.
They lose a game in the standings, not enough to
get swept by the Dodgers this weekend. They go ahead
and lose a game like this. But Ramos goes back
for the ball the Giants left fielder and the fan
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doesn't really come into the field of play. He's got
his hands out to get the ball and he doesn't.
He tries to put his hands together to catch the
ball and he doesn't. So he he tries to get it,
and it looks like it goes through his hands and
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it falls right into Ramos's glove and Ramos doesn't catch
it doesn't close like you I've seen the replay a
bunch of times, it doesn't look like the fan touched
the ball at all, and Ramo still puts his glove up,
hits in, his hits in the webbing bounces out. The
fan doesn't reach over into the field of play. He
kind of just stands up as the ball is coming
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into him. I don't know how you make that and
rule that fan interference. I don't know how you do.
You're seeing it a bunch of times, like is it
just because the fan put his hands out? Okay, fan
put his hands out, all right, I mean that's I
don't see how suddenly that's fan interference when so many
other times we've seen people go up to try to
catch balls. Fans all, it's a homer. What can you do?
But they decide to go back and make this one
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and out. I don't. And then Mike Schult comes out
to argue and he gets tossed.
Speaker 5 (18:20):
Right.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
I don't see how you do that in this case.
Speaker 3 (18:23):
But I didn't see anything that was conclusive right as
we've watched it a bunch of times. Is there a
chance maybe that the lower part of his arm, like
is he's swinging like and standing up that his elbow
catches the glove that that I haven't. I mean, there's
nothing conclusive to that. Yeah, right, because you don't see
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rambos where the gloves suddenly gets jerked in either direction.
It's the ball's in and it's out.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
Like I don't.
Speaker 3 (18:53):
I don't see conclusive, at least to my naked eyes,
unless there's another replay or one that's parallel with the
line of where the wall is the arms come over,
did they not? Like from all we can see is
the guy gets that's excited because hey, the ball's coming.
He and his jackass buddy a couple of seats down.
They stand up and said.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
Loramo said, Honestly, I'm more upset at the guy because
he makes such a horrible Yeah, he tries to like
close it's not how you ct you gotta put you
put your hands together and cats like he's trying. Yeah,
his body it's like he was trying to time it,
like I'm gonna close my arms and and I'm gonna
catch it at the same time, right, like you're doing
one of those big giant claw machines, the claw, the claw. Like,
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I'm more upset about that because he looks like it's
a terrible He doesn't and I think he missed. Like
I said, I think he misses the ball entirely. And
I don't know how you go in and say, yeah,
this is a fan interference, not leaning over in the
field to play, doesn't touch the ball. Nope, fan interference.
We're taking it away.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (19:52):
Wow, they got the souvenir. Did they get kicked out though?
Because I mean, if you get ruled like you obstructed things,
aren't you nomadically ejected?
Speaker 1 (20:01):
And thanks to a three way tiebreaker, Oh, the Mets
get the third playoff spot over the Padres. Who could
if they had won that game back in the middle
of August thanks to fan interference. Maybe it's a different
headline now, so it'll be the Mets and the Dodgers
coming your way right after this message from farmer John.
Speaker 3 (20:21):
This is also where I'd love to go into the
ins and outs of the contract of.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
End of the year.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
Nineteen is not twenty any you're not getting that bonus.
Let's take a listen to how the play sounded again.
This is the home run that wasn't Oh, I thought
we had the home run, all right, No big deal,
I thought we had it. We'll have a well tysher.
That's where you jump in and go oh ah.
Speaker 6 (20:47):
Wha is this the Padres saving their season? Henis high?
Hen as far? It is almost out of there.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
Very good, Okay, very good, okay, very good?
Speaker 6 (21:00):
All rise, here comes the jog?
Speaker 1 (21:04):
Does it say? It doesn't Carlow Barlow? There is a
all rise the Gambino. Yeah, no you did. You didn't
do it again. You did more like if Colin Coward
was doing a John Sterling impression. That's what it sounded like.
Speaker 6 (21:20):
I'm tired of broadcasting.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
Yeah, all rise, but here I am. Yeah, it's joy
with the fly ball. No, he just okay, okay, okay,
we're now, we're done. Now, we're done.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
Now.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
You know you got to the line and you walked right.
Speaker 6 (21:33):
Over it and go blank yourself Chicago.
Speaker 2 (21:34):
So that was whoa that would be.
Speaker 3 (21:37):
That would be fan interference what he did right there.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
He went, that's ty shirt interfering with the show round.
It's called the fourth wall. You know it's it's it's
my it's my fault. You opened the door. No, it's
my fault.
Speaker 2 (21:48):
And you know what he did, he walked through.
Speaker 1 (21:50):
It's my I'm the fan that said I'm gonna try
to catch the ball like this. That's my fault. It's
absolutely my fault. So while that's been going on again,
the Padres miss seeing the playoffs by one game. If
they had just won that game back on August eighteenth,
maybe it's a different situation now. So here's your wild
card schedule. The Mets and the Dodgers and the Reds
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and the Phillies were making the playoffs. Oh, we're making
the players, Nolan McCain say on Saturday off, they are
not making the playoffs. Nolan McLain, your new favorite for
Cy Young.
Speaker 5 (22:25):
Waste our time with another takes playoffs. That's done the
Padres loss. You should be happy right now.
Speaker 1 (22:32):
You can care less about a team that crappy. Could
you be in a happier mood? You swept the Padres
this weekend? Oh well, you did lose the Rockies tonight.
That was really bad. The red hot Rockies squad.
Speaker 5 (22:43):
I'm about to run in there and attack you quicker
than ti Oscar Hernandez got to that ball.
Speaker 1 (22:49):
That was a terrible break. If you're gonna attack me
like Hernanda's got to that ball tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (22:53):
Ye just leave the camera running and event'll catch you.
Speaker 1 (22:59):
Mike, we all know that cameras are running. Meanwhile, our
long national nightmare has finally ended. Wait the Jets are
off TV. Stop. Come on, man, if you only have
a couple of if you like running the football, you're
gonna love watching the Jets. If you like running the
football and defense, you're gonna love watching the Jets this
year because clearly, as we saw on Saturday, they're going
(23:21):
to run the football, so you can do I mean
that second possession after Justin Fields bounced to pass to
Garrett Wilson, they're in the ball ten destroyed plays?
Speaker 3 (23:30):
How long before Garrett Wilson's asking for that? Come on,
I think they're a little high. I think they're Brice
Hall will be playing running back for a different team
by that point.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
He said, I'm not their guy. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
well yeah yeah yeah. But remember I would say, hey, listen,
just because we're not going to extend your contract, who's
like a guy who actually is better than you and
you haven't really built on being a rookie. We understand
you got hurt. You know you're auditioning for thirty on
other teams, right, Okay, great, I just want to make
sure you know that. Make sure you know that. Now
you're already casting him off. You love too that we
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got five running backs, Man, what are we gonna do.
We're gonna take We're taking that NFL offense back to
the nineteen forties, and now you're besmirching the guy. Yeah,
you're just gonna single wing offense. Man, it's gonna be
fielded that. You don't know who has the balls? Is
it Bresee Hall? Is it Brayln Allen? Is that Isaiah Davis?
Is it Donovan Edwards? Last team running rough shot over
the Oklahoma, the Ohio State Buck guys in the in
big games, like, we got lots of guys, man, we
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got dudes.
Speaker 3 (24:31):
Next man up.
Speaker 1 (24:32):
Eah final stature justin fields thirteen carries, eighty eight yards
in a touchdown, four attempts, four completions, twelve attempts, thirty
eight yards in a pick.
Speaker 3 (24:43):
Can any of those running backs throw with the grace, poise,
and acumen of a Walter Payton?
Speaker 1 (24:50):
Uh No, But we're gonna get Ronnie Brown back. We'll run,
We'll run it back. We'll run the hell out of
that wild.
Speaker 3 (24:55):
Gone long enough that it would be successful.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
For we gotta do it again. Ah, because signed Frank
cor Speaking of question, I've had enough of him. We
didn't have we don't have Trevor Lawrence because of Frank Cord.
Not like that's a big deal, but like, we don't
have Trevor Lawrence because of Frank cor But you don't.
Speaker 3 (25:10):
Like him either. And he would have gone to the Jets.
Would he have been any better off than I mean? Yes,
the Urban Meyer experiment was a disaster.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
Yeah, Jets show, the Browns have their starting quarterback and
it is Joe Flacco. Yeah, it is not surprising. Well,
he's elite. He's elite. He's been absolutely true a guy
that I give him the nod. Right, I have an
appreciation moment for Joe Flacco. We all thought he was
done in twenty nineteen before the pandemic. The year before
the pandemic, we thought he was done. When the Raven said, well,
(25:42):
we gotta go with Lamar. John Harbo said, yeah, I
love you, Joe, but I like to keep being an
NFL coach. If I if I'm loyal to you, they're
gonna fire me because because Lamar Jackson's better. We thought
he was done with the with the Broncos, but Broncos Jets, Browns, Colts.
Back to the Browns. Six years later, he's starting again
(26:02):
in the NFL. He finds a way to get those
starting jobs, which I think if you're an NFL team
and you have Joe Flacco on your roster, you have
to understand all this means eventually he's gonna play. So,
you know, bad things are happening to your quarterback room, man,
Bad things are happening if Flacco's you know somehow, Hey,
he goes to the Jets. What happens, right, no plans
for Joe Flacco to play? He starts parts of three seasons. Right,
(26:24):
he goes to the you know, he goes he leaves
the Jets. He goes to the Browns. No plans for
Joe Flacco to start. Guess what he started at the
end of the season. Okay, right, he goes to the Colts.
No plans for Joe Flacco to start. What does he do?
He starts half the season. Okay, back to the Browns
and he plans for Joe Flacco. We got a rookie quarterback.
We got two rookiy quarterbacks. We got a Super Bowl
winning quarterback. Guess who's starting Joe Flacco? So what you know.
Speaker 3 (26:45):
So what you're saying is he is the defense against
the dark Guards teacher. You know, every year that's that guy.
The year is different, every year is different. Or the
guest star and insert serial here, like, ah, he's gotta
be the bad guy because he's just in for an episode.
Speaker 1 (27:01):
But I give him the nod because look, it's six
years ago. We thought he was done and here he
is starting, and that's awesome and I love it because
this starts out my parlay that I gave you last
week of the order of the five guys who will
start a quarterback for the Browns this year. I said,
it's Flacco first guys. I said, Now, Flacco's kind of
(27:22):
a freebie. Yeah, you got free but you gotta start
with somebody, right, So I gave you my order Flacco, Picket, Sanders, Gabriel,
and then Tyler Huntley will sneak one at the end
of the year. There's your order of the five guys,
and you got it. So we had to start somewhere.
So I like the fact that Flacco got they get
to begin with, because that's that that's the interesting part
is Okay, you can tell me that they're gonna start
(27:43):
five guys, and that's wow, that's amazing. But what's the order,
smart guy, I gave you the order, so all you need, Well,
we like the specificity and trying to piece this out.
It'll be curious if Kenny Pickett were healthy, how quickly
he might find himself in another job. But I give
Joe Flacco the absolute credit right now, not only hey,
I came off the couch one comeback player of the Year,
(28:04):
but recognizing the state of NFL quarterbacking. As long as
I keep myself in relatively decent shape and nothing happens
to the shoulder, protect the moneymaker, nothing happens to the shoulder.
Sixty plus guys are going to start a game every
year in.
Speaker 3 (28:18):
The National Football League. That's science at this point. That
is fact five.
Speaker 1 (28:22):
Of them will be with the Browns this year.
Speaker 3 (28:23):
But the fact that dude also is a starter on
opening Day. Yeah, I mean, this is like a ceremonial
Bartolo Colone. He's thirty nine years old, let's shot him out. No,
this guy can still sling it six and after look.
Speaker 1 (28:36):
And you look at what he's done. What Look he
went to the Broncos in twenty nineteen, and this is
when we thought, wow, here he is. He's getting a
new lease on life. Half a season, they said, we
got to start over again. Okay, you thought he was done.
He goes to the Jets and backs up when he
got on the field. Okay, he was all right for
a little bit. But you think, okay, he's still done.
Then he goes to the Browns. Hey, I'm off the couch.
Oh what a great last couple of games. But he
(28:57):
really can't play that many games. Boy, what a great
ending to do it his career. Nope, next year with
the Colts, he's not gonna play. Oh he's gonna play
a little bit. Guess what he's gonna throw twelve touchdowns.
That's Joe Flacart. Yeah, but now he's that Nope, back
with the Browns and guess what I'm starting week one?
That is Joe.
Speaker 3 (29:11):
Garrett did say they're a super Bowl worthy team. You
want to talk about long shot bets. I mean, you
want to go two super Bowl winning quarterbacks? Nowt you
got two guys, now five guys?
Speaker 1 (29:23):
Five? Yeah, so they'll carry four is the latest. You're
gonna have a guy you're gonna happen on the practice
squad at it and now that you're starting Flacco. This
gives Kenny Pickett another month or so to get healthy because,
as I said, Kenny Pickett, probably sometime beginning of October, Right,
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that's what's gonna.
Speaker 3 (29:44):
Happen, or somebody break glass in case of emergency, give
us that Super Bowl winning quarterback.
Speaker 1 (29:51):
Time now to find out what's trending in the wide
world of sports. But guy has been called the Kenny
Picket of Fox Sports Radio. It's kind of an insult
over there. Well and take it back. Okay, he's a
Super Bowl champ, Yes he is.
Speaker 7 (30:08):
I could take a knee with the best of.
Speaker 1 (30:10):
All Right, all right, all right, prosper gat me maybe
nervous there for a minute.
Speaker 7 (30:15):
Everything's final in Major League Baseball, including that Padres lost
by one at home against San Francisco for to three Giants. Yes,
the Padres had a home run overturned due to fan
interference in the second inning. Let's hear first off a
little bit of the Giants TV NBC Sports Bay Area
as they were looking at replays.
Speaker 1 (30:35):
I'm just saying that was going to be in my glove. Yeah,
they're gonna have to have a conversation about that. If
the Jenny dut that this is not going to be overturned.
Speaker 7 (30:43):
Actually it was overturned, Ron Howard resid Development.
Speaker 1 (30:47):
Actually it was overturned.
Speaker 7 (30:50):
And the Giants wound up winning by one. Now, the
actual baseball rule is quote, if spectator interference clearly prevents
a fielder from catching a fly ball, the umpire shall
declare the batter out.
Speaker 1 (31:03):
And that's what happened.
Speaker 7 (31:04):
And I think we all agree that the spectator did
not touch said fly ball. But seeing two angles, it
seems obvious that the spectator was leaning from his first
row seat at the wall while the outfielder was on
the other side at the wall looking up, and the
spectator was with his two arms leaning over and may
(31:25):
have interfered in that way without touching the ball. But
I will say that in general, I fault the home
team the home ballpark for this. There is no railing
at all at the first row or plexiglass or anything.
You are asking for this to be a problem.
Speaker 1 (31:41):
And with the Padres finishing one game behind the Reds,
it's Cincinnati at Milwaukee in your first round playoff series.
Speaker 7 (31:48):
By the way, those Cincinnati Reds are just a game
back of the Mets.
Speaker 1 (31:52):
For the last hour two in the lost column, Steve
two in the lost column.
Speaker 7 (31:55):
It's one total game people four winners at the age
on FS one victories for Cleveland and Kansas City. White
Sox ended a four game losing streak, winning in Atlanta
thirteen to nine. Braves had won five straight, but Spencer
Streider five and eleven, took the loss in three plus innings.
He gave up seven runs. Baltimore won at Boston six
(32:16):
to three. The winning pitcher for the Oriols, Trevor Rodgers,
is six and two ERA.
Speaker 1 (32:21):
One point four to one.
Speaker 7 (32:23):
He had seven innings, one run alowed at Fenway seven strikeouts.
Pittsburgh beat Toronto five to two. Paul sken started did
not get a decision despite eight strikeouts in six innings
for the Blue Jays. Vladimir Guerrero Junior left with hamstring tightness.
Toronto pitcher Shane bieber X of Cleveland makes his season
debut on Friday. Philadelphia beat Seattle twelve seven. Bryce Harper
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two homers. Detroit shut out Houston ten nothing. Jack Flaherty
had been mostly awful the last couple months on the mound,
not tonight. Nine strikeouts in seven innings. He had been
six and twelve this year. The Tigers hit four homers.
Houston only had five hits for thirty one eleven strikeouts,
and there was due to be a double header at
Wrigley Instead. Milwaukee did win the first game seven nothing
(33:07):
over the Cubs. There was no second game tonight rained out.
They'll play a double header on Tuesday. This is going
to be a five game series. They had to make
up a rainout from a couple of months ago. This
is a Brewers team that's not just dominating in first
in the NL Central now. They had a fourteen game
winning streak going until it was ended, giving up a
run in the ninth at are run in the tenth
Yesterday at Cincinnati.
Speaker 1 (33:27):
They had two home runs taken back by fans fan interfero, No,
not true.
Speaker 7 (33:32):
Cincinnati Bengals were winners at Washington and an NFL exhibition tonight,
thirty one seventeen quarterback Joe Burrow with a short touchdown
pass he played three series. Evan McPherson a fifty four
yard field goal, Jake Browning two touchdown passes late in
the first half. The NFL preseason ends this Saturday, and
by the way, Washington running back Brian Robinson was out
and could be traded without him. On the team's first
(33:55):
two drives tonight, the Commanders on six carries had one
hundred and six yards.
Speaker 1 (34:00):
That's the Bengals defense. That's a great front seven.
Speaker 7 (34:04):
I think we've seen this before.
Speaker 1 (34:05):
We know their secondary can tackle. Can we know that?
Speaker 7 (34:07):
Can they get can they get edoo something? Matthew Stafford,
Rams quarterback, did practice today for the first time in
this training camp, but the team had.
Speaker 1 (34:17):
No further update on his bad back. Back to you.
They need David Fulcher back, They need Ricky Dixon back,
They need need a lot more Jim Leclair people. They need,
they need Jim Scale back. They need a lot of
guys back. Thank you, Steve. The Jason Smith Show is
my best friend. Mike Carmon coming up next. What quarterback?
Is it twenty five or bust? For he doesn't have
(34:38):
a big twenty twenty five He's on a new team
in twenty sixth. The answer may surprise you.
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Speaker 1 (34:52):
I hate that song. Fox Sports Radio, The Jason Smith
Show with my best friend Mike Harmon. I'm standing up
in the studio. Oh now, you would think that after
this week the Caleb Williams is terrible. He stakes that
bandwagon is no, no, no, no, still going strong.
Speaker 3 (35:09):
Super Bowl, well, a lot of folks came around the
cul de Sac their analysis of mister Williams.
Speaker 1 (35:15):
The Bears beat the Bills seventy six nothing, and boy,
Sean McDermott, I don't know how you spend that one,
but uh, Williams looks good in limited play. And after
Williams played, I watch him saying he looks fine. Everything
is like, yeah, second string defense with the Bills, but
he looks fine. Everybody needs to calm down and get
off of that. Caleb Williams stinks and we are ready
(35:37):
to move on Year one. Ben Johnson he's got weapons,
it's terrific. He's gonna have a great year. Thirty touchdowns,
four thousand yards. He's the there's a reason he was
taking number one overall. And I thought, Okay, all the
hate and all the nervousness of last week when Tyson bage,
it was so good Williams didn't even play. I said, Okay,
that's gonna go away after this. Beagent then comes in,
(35:58):
has a great well second and third quarter, and suddenly
it's all, look, how great Tyson Page it is. Wait
a minute, Wait a minute, but but Williams just did.
Oh it was against second stringers, but look at paiged
his is against third stringers. Doesn't matter. It makes me
realize that Caleb Williams is never going to win in Chicago.
He's never gonna win the fan base, he's never gonna
win the city. He's just not going to the only
(36:20):
way he wins is by winning on the field. And
while I'm telling you things are gonna be fine this year,
I've been telling you for a while. He's good. It
just Ben Jonson's the perfect quarterback to have, right this
is this is the right marriage. If it doesn't work,
If Caleb Williams doesn't work, and he's on what we
want to call a three year decline from his last
(36:41):
year from his from his his junior year at USC
to his last year at USC to his first year
in Chicago, which wasn't that bad, but we make it
seem like it was terrible just because he wasn't Jayden Daniels.
If things don't get better this year for him. The
Bears are gonna get into the offseason and they're gonna
do exactly what they did to Justin Fields. They're gonna say,
do we really move on with him? Do we think
(37:01):
that the best days are ahead? Or do we cut
bait and move on? They did it with Justin Fields. No,
that was easier because I had the number one pick
in the draft and saying, Okay, do we like Justin
Field's enough to stick with him even though he's a
thousand yard rusher, or we have a chance to start over.
We can get the number, we have the number one pick. Ah,
let's do it. But they've done it before and they're
gonna ask themselves that question of year two. New head
(37:22):
coach Ben Johnson ken Caleb Williams really make a leap
in year three when he's on a three year decline.
The answer is gonna be no, and they're gonna find
a way to spin him off and start over again
at quarterback because it's it's such a way in Chicago
now where it's it's so he's so wrapped up in
(37:43):
the fabric of everybody seems to be waiting for the
worst thing to happen. Now, if he has a great year,
all good, right, and I told you that's what's gonna happen.
But just in case something happens and he doesn't, I
don't know how a bad year you get into the
offseason and you say yes going forward, we still think
he's the guy. He was drafted number one overall. When
we can move on from him, another team will take him.
(38:03):
We've spun justin Fields off to the to the steal
doesn't mean we have to get a whole bunch back
for him, but it will probably will get a little
bit more than for Fields. Because he's a number one
overall pick. Someone thinks they can quote fix him, but
they will do it because they've done it before. And
he's not gonna get a third I can't imagine what
it would be like for the for the organization to say, yeah,
we're gonna take such a huge chance going into year
three with him.
Speaker 3 (38:24):
Oh, I think they go to year three. I think
Field's got three. I think you get three. You get
a second year with Ben Johnson unless there's an absolute
break between he and n Johnson. Now, the question also
the locker room, you know, because you've had some some
folks trying to make grand assessments, not just that video
(38:45):
of him doing the quick throw thing into the net,
but just the all right guys coming to his aid.
You know what, what's the body language? Everybody tries to
do that like they've gotten PhDs in psychology. But all
of that to say, twenty and six a year ago,
twenty touchdowns against six picks. The interceptions thing, to me,
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I put an asterisk on because there were a lot
of times where he could have tried to put a
ball in a spot and didn't and instead waded took
a sack. Well, that timing is gonna be accelerated with
Ben Johnson. That's the one reason he came in. And
he also took this job over he could have taken
any job. He decided to come in and work with
this guy. Oh yeah, so tough love change out And look,
(39:28):
Ryan Poles got extended for all the work he did
in the offseason.
Speaker 1 (39:32):
I mean great.
Speaker 3 (39:33):
Kevin Warren says, hey, Chicago Arlington Heights, they're in the
same county. It doesn't matter for the new stadium. One
of the dumber things flowing out of that game. But
all of that to say, you brought in Luther. You've
got Antoine Randelel that has these wide receivers that are
gonna block on routes. So some of the stuff that
you saw in Detroit comes in.
Speaker 1 (39:54):
He could also play quarterback.
Speaker 3 (39:56):
Well, he could go back and turn back the clock
to Indiana, no question about it of that to say,
you've got a totally different offense and it's gonna take
time to cook. It's gonna take time to jest. State,
don't take it out too because if you didn't pink,
what's gonna happen, You're gonna get sick.
Speaker 1 (40:10):
Right you talk about if his first pass is incomplete,
they're gonna want him out. Oh no, there's no question.
Speaker 3 (40:18):
The loud mooughs on the score, and he has pinned
one thousand and all the poison pens from the newspapers.
Speaker 1 (40:24):
They'll be out, all the force off DJ Moore's fingertips.
You'll hear Tyson page it.
Speaker 3 (40:30):
I'm not nice. I'm not saying there's not the cacophony
of idiocy out there. And I'm sure plenty in our
national sphere will go back down the cul de Sac
again thinking they made a wrong turn. Calm down, it
needs to cook.
Speaker 1 (40:45):
Two years ah, I I'd like to say I agree
with you. I'd like to say that because I think
it's ridiculous. But I could just see how it's gonna
play out that can. We really think year three is
gonna be different, but we kind of have to move on.
Let's move and you could just trade Canna Williams to
the Steelers. It'll be fine. They'll be looking for another guy.
It'll be fine.
Speaker 3 (41:05):
Aaron Rodgers is beginning of a five year It's like.
Speaker 1 (41:09):
A pipeline from Chicago to Pittsburgh. Quarterbacks Chicago go right
to Pittsburgh. Same kind of feel. Another big NFL quarterback
story coming up next
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this content out for you every single night. Now, speaking
of TV, speaking of YouTube, speaking of replay, a story
that seemed kind of charming with a little bit of
a oh, how funny is that all of a sudden
in the last hour has become a hey man, this
(01:13):
is a real serious thing. The Giants and the Padres
are headed to the ninth inning in San Diego. The
Giants lead the Padres four to three. This is a
four nothing lead by the Giants, and the game would
be four to four if not for a home run
by the pandre zagerboat Xander Bogarts, which was overruled due
(01:34):
to fan interference. And this has been much debateing the
replay is all over it. But it was a four
to nothing game. It's okay, that's great. Now it's four
to three, and you know, obviously doing math, if you
allow that home run to stand, it would be four
to four. Now, here's the deal. This is. This is
there's a couple of reasons why I see this and
I go wow, I don't know how you make this call.
(01:54):
I know, Frostburg's like, yeah, boit, but the Giants benefit
not a leg it. So first, I don't know where
do you come down on this. The Xander Bogert's home
run that was taken away either in favor of the
Padres or in favor of the Giants. Oh, who's got
more losses? The Giants have more losses, that's for sure.
(02:15):
So then I favor with them. Okay, very hard there there.
That's that's that's the way to go. So Bogerts hits
the ball and Ramos goes back and you see, goes
up to catch the ball, and the ball comes down,
hits in his glove, bounces out. Right away, Ramos looks
at the fan points, they review it and they take
(02:36):
the home run out and they say fan interference. Now
a couple of reasons. Number One, the fan doesn't come
over the top, doesn't come into the field of play
to try to get the ball. Ramos is trying to
go into the stands to catch it. Right There's a
difference between a fan putting his hands out to catch
a ball and a fan going in and ripping it
out of Mooki Betts's glove. Because I patrol the right
(02:58):
field corner. Nobody else does. So it's not like the
fan got you know, put his hands on the field
to catch the ball. So immediately, right away, I disagree,
he's got his he's got his glove in the stands
to try to catch it. Secondly, and I've seen a
bunch of replays and obviously we're you know, being we're
hamstrung by what we see social media wise, what we've seen,
But I don't know that that the fan touched the ball.
(03:21):
The fan didn't interfere with Ramos. The ball comes down,
hits his glove, bounces out, and it's hard for me
to tell if the fan actually touched the ball because
it didn't look like the ball change direction. I mean,
clearly it could have. Now it could have hit off
the it could have hit off the fan, but I
would see that if it was, if it really hit
off the fan, it would have changed direction a little
(03:43):
bit more. The ball looks like it kind of comes
straight down into Ramos's glove and it bounces out, and
they decide to call fan interference.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
Well that's the question. Like watch this replay a million times.
Don't have a second angle or anything that's gonna give
me conclusive evidence here, But do they rule that his
elbow touches the top of the glove, which then changes
where the webbing is, allowing the ball to pop out?
Is that dude straight out of Central casting, by the way,
full fu Manchu. Oh yeah, like Paul Schemes trying to
(04:12):
catch that, Like is that James Headfield from the early nineties,
You know the black album Metallica. But yeah, you got
two guys that are kind of reached towards the ball.
This guy's cross armed in this whole nine yards but
wondering if they decided, you know, based on this, and
I'm trying to freeze frame it to where I can
get a definitive. Does he catch like part of the
webbing at the edge of his glove to where it's
(04:35):
enough to get the ball into the crowd, because then he,
like ROBO's just looking back at the field like, hey, hey,
what are we doing here? Shilt gets thrown out and
you have chaos ensuing. But now that run awful clutch
in the competition, especially after what we saw happened this
past weekend at Dodger Stadium.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
I really, I mean, I don't know how you tell
that the ball and again the fan and again the
guy's going. Now, what you've done is you have opened
a can of worms to say anytime a player jumps
to get a ball and his glove is in the
stands and a fantu fan interference, like you have to
call it every time now because that's the this was
(05:16):
not fan interference. The fan has to get has to
get into the field of play and make himself and
an obstruction and that that didn't happen. That did that
did not happen. Here Again, there's a difference between that
and Mookie Betts or other fans doing it. If the
fan jumped onto the if the ball wasn't going to
be a home run, then all right, but the ball
(05:37):
was going to be a home run. I mean really,
I I am stunned that that was overturned.
Speaker 3 (05:42):
Yeah, pretty shocking because I know at Wrigley Field there
was always the the issue of the ball getting into
the ivy and and how much of a half assed
effort you gave or did you really try to find
the ball to you know, get it get it out
of the the ivy before you threw your hands up
immediately calling for the ground rule double. So well, yeah,
it's it's a curiosity here as to exactly, you know,
(06:05):
how that ruling came down. Love to, you know, talk
to the guys in New York, like, did you decide, well,
you know, did you get another angle as to whether
he you know, broke the plane into the playing.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
Field or not.
Speaker 3 (06:19):
I mean, I don't know. It's curious, but certainly that
run coming.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
Back in a big way. Now, yeah, I mean clear. Look,
you think about the Padres missing the playoffs by a game,
Maybe there's this play becomes famous. Dude with the mustache
gets the Giants, take them out to dinner, The Mets
take them out to dinner. Hey, we're all feeling it.
The Reds take them out to dinner. Hey, we're all
feeling good. This guy's got a got a big victory
tour around the United States. Hey kept the Padres out
(06:45):
by a game. That's awesome.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
Oh he's also got the look. I mean, you know,
I think you start thinking of baseball players past a
little bit of the the legendary late great Rod Beck
to where he had that you know, the fu man
chew and and the hair flowing and you know the
rosy cheeks. But that's what we got. Here is a
fan who took a victory lap. Did he get thrown out?
(07:07):
Does he get thrown out and automatically because of a
fan interference call? I don't know what the rules of
engagement are there. Yeah, I don't like it.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
I don't. I don't like that. I don't like the
call being made there. I really don't. I don't. I
don't know how you say yes, that's uh, that was
a home run that was taken away, the ball hitting
his glove in your glove, you should catch it. The
ball couldn't have been squeezed if it was touched, could
have been touched that much Atlanta right in the webbing. Dude,
you gotta catch catch a ball. That's why I don't
believe it was touched. I don't know. I don't. I
don't know. It's really hard to say. I don't like it.
(07:36):
I don't like it.
Speaker 3 (07:37):
Yeah, I keep trying to go to bruder film frame
by frame of hey did he make contact with the glove?
Speaker 1 (07:42):
Either way?
Speaker 2 (07:43):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (07:44):
Not a fan of it, certainly. It's like you get
into the crowd and into the stands, you get what
you get.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
Yeah, I don't, I don't. I don't like it.
Speaker 3 (07:52):
Again, especially if the guy's rocking the food manage the
regular guy, regular Joe sitting in the front row.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
There, come on. So again, we'll keep you posted on
this game and let you know if this is the
run that cost the Padres the game. Again four to
three in the ninth inning, the Giants are batting, so
the Padres will get one last chance. Meanwhile, Monday Night football,
and now we're in that. We're in the run of
the shows where every night, every Monday night, and we
(08:20):
start now we come in. We're in the middle of
the Monday night football game, which is absolutely fantastic.
Speaker 3 (08:25):
It is that time a couple of days until Week
zero kicks off and everything goes from there.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
So tonight we watch the Bengals beat the Commanders. However,
a little bit, it's not quite as cut and dried
as you think it is where all the Bengals look great.
They beat the Commanders. Yes, the Bengals won thirty one
to seventeen. Is your final Joe Burrow looked really good,
as he has all preseason long. But Commanders were able
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to run all over the Bengals defense four plays. They
were in the end zone on their first possession without
throwing the football. Trey hendrickson where are you? Where are
your trainers? And he says, I'm not budget. I wouldn't
budge after tonight, are you kidding? After the way that
defense looked the first couple possessions, I would not budge.
Now this is more about the Bengals than it is
the Commanders, because look, the Commanders NFC Title game last year,
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they're figuring things out. You know, the Terry McLaurin thing
is starting to become an issue now ten you know,
ten twelve days left in camp before we got to
start getting game ready. But for the Bengals, I mean,
quite honestly, there is no bigger wild card team in
the NFL than Cincinnati. And I don't mean all they
gonna be a wildcard team, no, I mean they could
(09:36):
go thirteen and four. I can see this offense getting
so elite, not just elite, but so elite. The big
three with Burrow and both Chases and Higgins, this can
be a terrific offense. Joe Burrow could throw for forty
five hundred yards and forty five touchdowns. He's that talented.
This offense is that good, Chase Brown is that good,
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and they can win a bunch of games or canverly
I can see Burrow getting dinged up because it happens.
They are slow out of the gate, the defense is
absolutely terrible, and they never get going and they go
five and twelve like that. I could say that I
could see the Bengals having either of those seasons easily,
and anywhere in between. There's some times like a well,
(10:18):
you're too big to fail. No matter what you do,
you're not gonna be good. The Bengals can be out
of this world elite and be one of the surprise
teams in the NFL. And we could be saying in December, well,
they just had to get an extra year to get
back to where they were. They're the super Bowl team
we saw they were two and a half years ago.
And I can also see in December going they need changes,
need a new coach, need a new system, because here's
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another disappointing year. They're wasting Joe Burrow's career. All of
those things can happen. There is no bigger wild card
than the Bengals.
Speaker 3 (10:46):
Oh, they'll be wildly entertaining, no question about it. I
make the argument for Jamar Chase is the number one
players selected in your fantasy draft for this year.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
Joe Burrow.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
I would like to not see him do that little
scramble drill. It was like he was emulating all those
guys just coming out of college scrambling around before finally
taking a sack back at the three yard line. It
was one of those please go down, just get down,
don't don't actually take a hit before you. But great
preseason of work from him, obviously efficient, all the great
(11:17):
talking points about hey, we need to start faster. Your
offense wasn't the problem you starting fast? And yes, obviously
going up against the defending champions, you know you have
the Eagles ran rough shot over everybody last year and
he had a rough week one. Okay, fine, how much
of that was him? How much again, is how bad
the defense was? They had four losses last year where
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they scored at least thirty points. That's in blinking red
letters every time you start talking about this squad about
how bad the defense was. Oh, and that was with
Trey Hendrickson playing. So I wouldn't get too chesty if
i'm unless i'm holding up the sign that says please
trade me. We could stay, we could stak without that.
That is my summary line to what the Bengals are.
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How much is he moving the needle in terms of
wins losses? Your defense as a whole is still bad.
Your offensive line is suspected best. So you're running around,
You're gonna score a lot of points. You're gonna have
some pinball games, some great fantasy games, and that's gonna
be about it.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
So for Joe Burrow.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
Really, now it becomes the B about it. You can
talk about leading by example and playing in the preseason.
That's fantastic. Know what you need to do? You either
need to go into the front office and demand your
own damn trade or part B say all right, how
do we work out my money so this guy gets right,
so we get him in if you think he's that
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instrumental of what you're going to do here in twenty
twenty five. Otherwise history's repeating itself. We're going straight down
that highway again. They're plus two to sixty in the division,
ahead of Pittsburgh and then obviously the long shot Cleveland Browns,
but well behind the Baltimore Ravens. You're basically groundhog Day
at this point. If you're Joe Burrow with a couple
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more reps in the preseason to say.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
I did my part. I showed them my example. How
is this gonna go? Can you play defense? No, he
can't play defense, so it doesn't matter. Can you tell
me it's gonna go good? No? No, no, no. I
don't know what to tell you, man, I don't know
what to tell you. Just just again, I could see
I could see thirteen and four. I could see five
and twelve that that's how insane it is for the Bengals.
Speaker 3 (13:20):
I would say this, if you're gonna take a little
pile of money or a big pile of money, I'm
going towards the ladder. I'm gonna get a win, maybe
two against Cleveland. But if Joe Flacco is elite, what
does that mean?
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Speaker 1 (15:43):
The game that kept the Padres out of the playoffs. Wow,
fan interference home run that was taken away? I'm shocked.
Giants beat the Padres tonight four to three. Why is
that a big deal? Well, because the Padres had a
home run overturns. Andrew Boguarts hit a home run, but
(16:05):
upon further review, it was taken back as interference was
ruled on the play and so instead of a solo
home run for the Padres at that time, for nothing
would have been for to one. It was still for
nothing and the Giants win it. The Padres do get three,
but three is not four. That other run would have
(16:29):
made it for Maybe we're in extra innings. Maybe the
Padres missed the playoffs because of fan interference, look at
you and learning masks. What if that was Jeffrey Mayor?
What if that kid was Jeffery What if that guy
with the with the mustache because he got a big
fu manchew much. What if that was Jeffrey Mayor thirty
years later? That would be some next level stuff, right,
(16:50):
Maybe it could be about that history, about that age.
Now the home run, you've seen it a bunch of times.
We talked about a few minutes ago, but now it's
a thing because the game ended, and now the Padres lose.
They lose a game in the standings, not enough to
get swept by the Dodgers this weekend. They go ahead
and lose a game like this. But Ramos goes back
for the ball the Giants left fielder and the fan
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doesn't really come into the field of play. He's got
his hands out to get the ball and he doesn't.
He tries to put his hands together to catch the
ball and he doesn't. So he he tries to get it,
and it looks like it goes through his hands and
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it falls right into Ramos's glove and Ramos doesn't catch
it doesn't close like you I've seen the replay a
bunch of times, it doesn't look like the fan touched
the ball at all, and Ramo still puts his glove up,
hits in, his hits in the webbing bounces out. The
fan doesn't reach over into the field of play. He
kind of just stands up as the ball is coming
(17:54):
into him. I don't know how you make that and
rule that fan interference. I don't know how you do.
You're seeing it a bunch of times, like is it
just because the fan put his hands out? Okay, fan
put his hands out, all right, I mean that's I
don't see how suddenly that's fan interference when so many
other times we've seen people go up to try to
catch balls. Fans all, it's a homer. What can you do?
But they decide to go back and make this one
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and out. I don't. And then Mike Schult comes out
to argue and he gets tossed.
Speaker 5 (18:20):
Right.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
I don't see how you do that in this case.
Speaker 3 (18:23):
But I didn't see anything that was conclusive right as
we've watched it a bunch of times. Is there a
chance maybe that the lower part of his arm, like
is he's swinging like and standing up that his elbow
catches the glove that that I haven't. I mean, there's
nothing conclusive to that. Yeah, right, because you don't see
(18:45):
rambos where the gloves suddenly gets jerked in either direction.
It's the ball's in and it's out.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
Like I don't.
Speaker 3 (18:53):
I don't see conclusive, at least to my naked eyes,
unless there's another replay or one that's parallel with the
line of where the wall is the arms come over,
did they not? Like from all we can see is
the guy gets that's excited because hey, the ball's coming.
He and his jackass buddy a couple of seats down.
They stand up and said.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
Loramo said, Honestly, I'm more upset at the guy because
he makes such a horrible Yeah, he tries to like
close it's not how you ct you gotta put you
put your hands together and cats like he's trying. Yeah,
his body it's like he was trying to time it,
like I'm gonna close my arms and and I'm gonna
catch it at the same time, right, like you're doing
one of those big giant claw machines, the claw, the claw. Like,
(19:36):
I'm more upset about that because he looks like it's
a terrible He doesn't and I think he missed. Like
I said, I think he misses the ball entirely. And
I don't know how you go in and say, yeah,
this is a fan interference, not leaning over in the
field to play, doesn't touch the ball. Nope, fan interference.
We're taking it away.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (19:52):
Wow, they got the souvenir. Did they get kicked out though?
Because I mean, if you get ruled like you obstructed things,
aren't you nomadically ejected?
Speaker 1 (20:01):
And thanks to a three way tiebreaker, Oh, the Mets
get the third playoff spot over the Padres. Who could
if they had won that game back in the middle
of August thanks to fan interference. Maybe it's a different
headline now, so it'll be the Mets and the Dodgers
coming your way right after this message from farmer John.
Speaker 3 (20:21):
This is also where I'd love to go into the
ins and outs of the contract of.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
End of the year.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
Nineteen is not twenty any you're not getting that bonus.
Let's take a listen to how the play sounded again.
This is the home run that wasn't Oh, I thought
we had the home run, all right, No big deal,
I thought we had it. We'll have a well tysher.
That's where you jump in and go oh ah.
Speaker 6 (20:47):
Wha is this the Padres saving their season? Henis high?
Hen as far? It is almost out of there.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
Very good, Okay, very good, okay, very good?
Speaker 6 (21:00):
All rise, here comes the jog?
Speaker 1 (21:04):
Does it say? It doesn't Carlow Barlow? There is a
all rise the Gambino. Yeah, no you did. You didn't
do it again. You did more like if Colin Coward
was doing a John Sterling impression. That's what it sounded like.
Speaker 6 (21:20):
I'm tired of broadcasting.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
Yeah, all rise, but here I am. Yeah, it's joy
with the fly ball. No, he just okay, okay, okay,
we're now, we're done. Now, we're done.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
Now.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
You know you got to the line and you walked right.
Speaker 6 (21:33):
Over it and go blank yourself Chicago.
Speaker 2 (21:34):
So that was whoa that would be.
Speaker 3 (21:37):
That would be fan interference what he did right there.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
He went, that's ty shirt interfering with the show round.
It's called the fourth wall. You know it's it's it's
my it's my fault. You opened the door. No, it's
my fault.
Speaker 2 (21:48):
And you know what he did, he walked through.
Speaker 1 (21:50):
It's my I'm the fan that said I'm gonna try
to catch the ball like this. That's my fault. It's
absolutely my fault. So while that's been going on again,
the Padres miss seeing the playoffs by one game. If
they had just won that game back on August eighteenth,
maybe it's a different situation now. So here's your wild
card schedule. The Mets and the Dodgers and the Reds
(22:13):
and the Phillies were making the playoffs. Oh, we're making
the players, Nolan McCain say on Saturday off, they are
not making the playoffs. Nolan McLain, your new favorite for
Cy Young.
Speaker 5 (22:25):
Waste our time with another takes playoffs. That's done the
Padres loss. You should be happy right now.
Speaker 1 (22:32):
You can care less about a team that crappy. Could
you be in a happier mood? You swept the Padres
this weekend? Oh well, you did lose the Rockies tonight.
That was really bad. The red hot Rockies squad.
Speaker 5 (22:43):
I'm about to run in there and attack you quicker
than ti Oscar Hernandez got to that ball.
Speaker 1 (22:49):
That was a terrible break. If you're gonna attack me
like Hernanda's got to that ball tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (22:53):
Ye just leave the camera running and event'll catch you.
Speaker 1 (22:59):
Mike, we all know that cameras are running. Meanwhile, our
long national nightmare has finally ended. Wait the Jets are
off TV. Stop. Come on, man, if you only have
a couple of if you like running the football, you're
gonna love watching the Jets. If you like running the
football and defense, you're gonna love watching the Jets this
year because clearly, as we saw on Saturday, they're going
(23:21):
to run the football, so you can do I mean
that second possession after Justin Fields bounced to pass to
Garrett Wilson, they're in the ball ten destroyed plays?
Speaker 3 (23:30):
How long before Garrett Wilson's asking for that? Come on,
I think they're a little high. I think they're Brice
Hall will be playing running back for a different team
by that point.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
He said, I'm not their guy. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
well yeah yeah yeah. But remember I would say, hey, listen,
just because we're not going to extend your contract, who's
like a guy who actually is better than you and
you haven't really built on being a rookie. We understand
you got hurt. You know you're auditioning for thirty on
other teams, right, Okay, great, I just want to make
sure you know that. Make sure you know that. Now
you're already casting him off. You love too that we
(24:09):
got five running backs, Man, what are we gonna do.
We're gonna take We're taking that NFL offense back to
the nineteen forties, and now you're besmirching the guy. Yeah,
you're just gonna single wing offense. Man, it's gonna be
fielded that. You don't know who has the balls? Is
it Bresee Hall? Is it Brayln Allen? Is that Isaiah Davis?
Is it Donovan Edwards? Last team running rough shot over
the Oklahoma, the Ohio State Buck guys in the in
big games, like, we got lots of guys, man, we
(24:30):
got dudes.
Speaker 3 (24:31):
Next man up.
Speaker 1 (24:32):
Eah final stature justin fields thirteen carries, eighty eight yards
in a touchdown, four attempts, four completions, twelve attempts, thirty
eight yards in a pick.
Speaker 3 (24:43):
Can any of those running backs throw with the grace, poise,
and acumen of a Walter Payton?
Speaker 1 (24:50):
Uh No, But we're gonna get Ronnie Brown back. We'll run,
We'll run it back. We'll run the hell out of
that wild.
Speaker 3 (24:55):
Gone long enough that it would be successful.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
For we gotta do it again. Ah, because signed Frank
cor Speaking of question, I've had enough of him. We
didn't have we don't have Trevor Lawrence because of Frank Cord.
Not like that's a big deal, but like, we don't
have Trevor Lawrence because of Frank cor But you don't.
Speaker 3 (25:10):
Like him either. And he would have gone to the Jets.
Would he have been any better off than I mean? Yes,
the Urban Meyer experiment was a disaster.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
Yeah, Jets show, the Browns have their starting quarterback and
it is Joe Flacco. Yeah, it is not surprising. Well,
he's elite. He's elite. He's been absolutely true a guy
that I give him the nod. Right, I have an
appreciation moment for Joe Flacco. We all thought he was
done in twenty nineteen before the pandemic. The year before
the pandemic, we thought he was done. When the Raven said, well,
(25:42):
we gotta go with Lamar. John Harbo said, yeah, I
love you, Joe, but I like to keep being an
NFL coach. If I if I'm loyal to you, they're
gonna fire me because because Lamar Jackson's better. We thought
he was done with the with the Broncos, but Broncos Jets, Browns, Colts.
Back to the Browns. Six years later, he's starting again
(26:02):
in the NFL. He finds a way to get those
starting jobs, which I think if you're an NFL team
and you have Joe Flacco on your roster, you have
to understand all this means eventually he's gonna play. So,
you know, bad things are happening to your quarterback room, man,
Bad things are happening if Flacco's you know somehow, Hey,
he goes to the Jets. What happens, right, no plans
for Joe Flacco to play? He starts parts of three seasons. Right,
(26:24):
he goes to the you know, he goes he leaves
the Jets. He goes to the Browns. No plans for
Joe Flacco to start. Guess what he started at the
end of the season. Okay, right, he goes to the Colts.
No plans for Joe Flacco to start. What does he do?
He starts half the season. Okay, back to the Browns
and he plans for Joe Flacco. We got a rookie quarterback.
We got two rookiy quarterbacks. We got a Super Bowl
winning quarterback. Guess who's starting Joe Flacco? So what you know.
Speaker 3 (26:45):
So what you're saying is he is the defense against
the dark Guards teacher. You know, every year that's that guy.
The year is different, every year is different. Or the
guest star and insert serial here, like, ah, he's gotta
be the bad guy because he's just in for an episode.
Speaker 1 (27:01):
But I give him the nod because look, it's six
years ago. We thought he was done and here he
is starting, and that's awesome and I love it because
this starts out my parlay that I gave you last
week of the order of the five guys who will
start a quarterback for the Browns this year. I said,
it's Flacco first guys. I said, Now, Flacco's kind of
(27:22):
a freebie. Yeah, you got free but you gotta start
with somebody, right, So I gave you my order Flacco, Picket, Sanders, Gabriel,
and then Tyler Huntley will sneak one at the end
of the year. There's your order of the five guys,
and you got it. So we had to start somewhere.
So I like the fact that Flacco got they get
to begin with, because that's that that's the interesting part
is Okay, you can tell me that they're gonna start
(27:43):
five guys, and that's wow, that's amazing. But what's the order,
smart guy, I gave you the order, so all you need, Well,
we like the specificity and trying to piece this out.
It'll be curious if Kenny Pickett were healthy, how quickly
he might find himself in another job. But I give
Joe Flacco the absolute credit right now, not only hey,
I came off the couch one comeback player of the Year,
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but recognizing the state of NFL quarterbacking. As long as
I keep myself in relatively decent shape and nothing happens
to the shoulder, protect the moneymaker, nothing happens to the shoulder.
Sixty plus guys are going to start a game every
year in.
Speaker 3 (28:18):
The National Football League. That's science at this point. That
is fact five.
Speaker 1 (28:22):
Of them will be with the Browns this year.
Speaker 3 (28:23):
But the fact that dude also is a starter on
opening Day. Yeah, I mean, this is like a ceremonial
Bartolo Colone. He's thirty nine years old, let's shot him out. No,
this guy can still sling it six and after look.
Speaker 1 (28:36):
And you look at what he's done. What Look he
went to the Broncos in twenty nineteen, and this is
when we thought, wow, here he is. He's getting a
new lease on life. Half a season, they said, we
got to start over again. Okay, you thought he was done.
He goes to the Jets and backs up when he
got on the field. Okay, he was all right for
a little bit. But you think, okay, he's still done.
Then he goes to the Browns. Hey, I'm off the couch.
Oh what a great last couple of games. But he
(28:57):
really can't play that many games. Boy, what a great
ending to do it his career. Nope, next year with
the Colts, he's not gonna play. Oh he's gonna play
a little bit. Guess what he's gonna throw twelve touchdowns.
That's Joe Flacart. Yeah, but now he's that Nope, back
with the Browns and guess what I'm starting week one?
That is Joe.
Speaker 3 (29:11):
Garrett did say they're a super Bowl worthy team. You
want to talk about long shot bets. I mean, you
want to go two super Bowl winning quarterbacks? Nowt you
got two guys, now five guys?
Speaker 1 (29:23):
Five? Yeah, so they'll carry four is the latest. You're
gonna have a guy you're gonna happen on the practice
squad at it and now that you're starting Flacco. This
gives Kenny Pickett another month or so to get healthy because,
as I said, Kenny Pickett, probably sometime beginning of October, Right,
(29:43):
that's what's gonna.
Speaker 3 (29:44):
Happen, or somebody break glass in case of emergency, give
us that Super Bowl winning quarterback.
Speaker 1 (29:51):
Time now to find out what's trending in the wide
world of sports. But guy has been called the Kenny
Picket of Fox Sports Radio. It's kind of an insult
over there. Well and take it back. Okay, he's a
Super Bowl champ, Yes he is.
Speaker 7 (30:08):
I could take a knee with the best of.
Speaker 1 (30:10):
All Right, all right, all right, prosper gat me maybe
nervous there for a minute.
Speaker 7 (30:15):
Everything's final in Major League Baseball, including that Padres lost
by one at home against San Francisco for to three Giants. Yes,
the Padres had a home run overturned due to fan
interference in the second inning. Let's hear first off a
little bit of the Giants TV NBC Sports Bay Area
as they were looking at replays.
Speaker 1 (30:35):
I'm just saying that was going to be in my glove. Yeah,
they're gonna have to have a conversation about that. If
the Jenny dut that this is not going to be overturned.
Speaker 7 (30:43):
Actually it was overturned, Ron Howard resid Development.
Speaker 1 (30:47):
Actually it was overturned.
Speaker 7 (30:50):
And the Giants wound up winning by one. Now, the
actual baseball rule is quote, if spectator interference clearly prevents
a fielder from catching a fly ball, the umpire shall
declare the batter out.
Speaker 1 (31:03):
And that's what happened.
Speaker 7 (31:04):
And I think we all agree that the spectator did
not touch said fly ball. But seeing two angles, it
seems obvious that the spectator was leaning from his first
row seat at the wall while the outfielder was on
the other side at the wall looking up, and the
spectator was with his two arms leaning over and may
(31:25):
have interfered in that way without touching the ball. But
I will say that in general, I fault the home
team the home ballpark for this. There is no railing
at all at the first row or plexiglass or anything.
You are asking for this to be a problem.
Speaker 1 (31:41):
And with the Padres finishing one game behind the Reds,
it's Cincinnati at Milwaukee in your first round playoff series.
Speaker 7 (31:48):
By the way, those Cincinnati Reds are just a game
back of the Mets.
Speaker 1 (31:52):
For the last hour two in the lost column, Steve
two in the lost column.
Speaker 7 (31:55):
It's one total game people four winners at the age
on FS one victories for Cleveland and Kansas City. White
Sox ended a four game losing streak, winning in Atlanta
thirteen to nine. Braves had won five straight, but Spencer
Streider five and eleven, took the loss in three plus innings.
He gave up seven runs. Baltimore won at Boston six
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to three. The winning pitcher for the Oriols, Trevor Rodgers,
is six and two ERA.
Speaker 1 (32:21):
One point four to one.
Speaker 7 (32:23):
He had seven innings, one run alowed at Fenway seven strikeouts.
Pittsburgh beat Toronto five to two. Paul sken started did
not get a decision despite eight strikeouts in six innings
for the Blue Jays. Vladimir Guerrero Junior left with hamstring tightness.
Toronto pitcher Shane bieber X of Cleveland makes his season
debut on Friday. Philadelphia beat Seattle twelve seven. Bryce Harper
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two homers. Detroit shut out Houston ten nothing. Jack Flaherty
had been mostly awful the last couple months on the mound,
not tonight. Nine strikeouts in seven innings. He had been
six and twelve this year. The Tigers hit four homers.
Houston only had five hits for thirty one eleven strikeouts,
and there was due to be a double header at
Wrigley Instead. Milwaukee did win the first game seven nothing
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over the Cubs. There was no second game tonight rained out.
They'll play a double header on Tuesday. This is going
to be a five game series. They had to make
up a rainout from a couple of months ago. This
is a Brewers team that's not just dominating in first
in the NL Central now. They had a fourteen game
winning streak going until it was ended, giving up a
run in the ninth at are run in the tenth
Yesterday at Cincinnati.
Speaker 1 (33:27):
They had two home runs taken back by fans fan interfero, No,
not true.
Speaker 7 (33:32):
Cincinnati Bengals were winners at Washington and an NFL exhibition tonight,
thirty one seventeen quarterback Joe Burrow with a short touchdown
pass he played three series. Evan McPherson a fifty four
yard field goal, Jake Browning two touchdown passes late in
the first half. The NFL preseason ends this Saturday, and
by the way, Washington running back Brian Robinson was out
and could be traded without him. On the team's first
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two drives tonight, the Commanders on six carries had one
hundred and six yards.
Speaker 1 (34:00):
That's the Bengals defense. That's a great front seven.
Speaker 7 (34:04):
I think we've seen this before.
Speaker 1 (34:05):
We know their secondary can tackle. Can we know that?
Speaker 7 (34:07):
Can they get can they get edoo something? Matthew Stafford,
Rams quarterback, did practice today for the first time in
this training camp, but the team had.
Speaker 1 (34:17):
No further update on his bad back. Back to you.
They need David Fulcher back, They need Ricky Dixon back,
They need need a lot more Jim Leclair people. They need,
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Is it twenty five or bust? For he doesn't have
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a big twenty twenty five He's on a new team
in twenty sixth. The answer may surprise you.
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Speaker 1 (34:52):
I hate that song. Fox Sports Radio, The Jason Smith
Show with my best friend Mike Harmon. I'm standing up
in the studio. Oh now, you would think that after
this week the Caleb Williams is terrible. He stakes that
bandwagon is no, no, no, no, still going strong.
Speaker 3 (35:09):
Super Bowl, well, a lot of folks came around the
cul de Sac their analysis of mister Williams.
Speaker 1 (35:15):
The Bears beat the Bills seventy six nothing, and boy,
Sean McDermott, I don't know how you spend that one,
but uh, Williams looks good in limited play. And after
Williams played, I watch him saying he looks fine. Everything
is like, yeah, second string defense with the Bills, but
he looks fine. Everybody needs to calm down and get
off of that. Caleb Williams stinks and we are ready
(35:37):
to move on Year one. Ben Johnson he's got weapons,
it's terrific. He's gonna have a great year. Thirty touchdowns,
four thousand yards. He's the there's a reason he was
taking number one overall. And I thought, Okay, all the
hate and all the nervousness of last week when Tyson bage,
it was so good Williams didn't even play. I said, Okay,
that's gonna go away after this. Beagent then comes in,
(35:58):
has a great well second and third quarter, and suddenly
it's all, look, how great Tyson Page it is. Wait
a minute, Wait a minute, but but Williams just did.
Oh it was against second stringers, but look at paiged
his is against third stringers. Doesn't matter. It makes me
realize that Caleb Williams is never going to win in Chicago.
He's never gonna win the fan base, he's never gonna
win the city. He's just not going to the only
(36:20):
way he wins is by winning on the field. And
while I'm telling you things are gonna be fine this year,
I've been telling you for a while. He's good. It
just Ben Jonson's the perfect quarterback to have, right this
is this is the right marriage. If it doesn't work,
If Caleb Williams doesn't work, and he's on what we
want to call a three year decline from his last
(36:41):
year from his from his his junior year at USC
to his last year at USC to his first year
in Chicago, which wasn't that bad, but we make it
seem like it was terrible just because he wasn't Jayden Daniels.
If things don't get better this year for him. The
Bears are gonna get into the offseason and they're gonna
do exactly what they did to Justin Fields. They're gonna say,
do we really move on with him? Do we think
(37:01):
that the best days are ahead? Or do we cut
bait and move on? They did it with Justin Fields. No,
that was easier because I had the number one pick
in the draft and saying, Okay, do we like Justin
Field's enough to stick with him even though he's a
thousand yard rusher, or we have a chance to start over.
We can get the number, we have the number one pick. Ah,
let's do it. But they've done it before and they're
gonna ask themselves that question of year two. New head
(37:22):
coach Ben Johnson ken Caleb Williams really make a leap
in year three when he's on a three year decline.
The answer is gonna be no, and they're gonna find
a way to spin him off and start over again
at quarterback because it's it's such a way in Chicago
now where it's it's so he's so wrapped up in
(37:43):
the fabric of everybody seems to be waiting for the
worst thing to happen. Now, if he has a great year,
all good, right, and I told you that's what's gonna happen.
But just in case something happens and he doesn't, I
don't know how a bad year you get into the
offseason and you say yes going forward, we still think
he's the guy. He was drafted number one overall. When
we can move on from him, another team will take him.
(38:03):
We've spun justin Fields off to the to the steal
doesn't mean we have to get a whole bunch back
for him, but it will probably will get a little
bit more than for Fields. Because he's a number one
overall pick. Someone thinks they can quote fix him, but
they will do it because they've done it before. And
he's not gonna get a third I can't imagine what
it would be like for the for the organization to say, yeah,
we're gonna take such a huge chance going into year
three with him.
Speaker 3 (38:24):
Oh, I think they go to year three. I think
Field's got three. I think you get three. You get
a second year with Ben Johnson unless there's an absolute
break between he and n Johnson. Now, the question also
the locker room, you know, because you've had some some
folks trying to make grand assessments, not just that video
(38:45):
of him doing the quick throw thing into the net,
but just the all right guys coming to his aid.
You know what, what's the body language? Everybody tries to
do that like they've gotten PhDs in psychology. But all
of that to say, twenty and six a year ago,
twenty touchdowns against six picks. The interceptions thing, to me,
(39:06):
I put an asterisk on because there were a lot
of times where he could have tried to put a
ball in a spot and didn't and instead waded took
a sack. Well, that timing is gonna be accelerated with
Ben Johnson. That's the one reason he came in. And
he also took this job over he could have taken
any job. He decided to come in and work with
this guy. Oh yeah, so tough love change out And look,
(39:28):
Ryan Poles got extended for all the work he did
in the offseason.
Speaker 1 (39:32):
I mean great.
Speaker 3 (39:33):
Kevin Warren says, hey, Chicago Arlington Heights, they're in the
same county. It doesn't matter for the new stadium. One
of the dumber things flowing out of that game. But
all of that to say, you brought in Luther. You've
got Antoine Randelel that has these wide receivers that are
gonna block on routes. So some of the stuff that
you saw in Detroit comes in.
Speaker 1 (39:54):
He could also play quarterback.
Speaker 3 (39:56):
Well, he could go back and turn back the clock
to Indiana, no question about it of that to say,
you've got a totally different offense and it's gonna take
time to cook. It's gonna take time to jest. State,
don't take it out too because if you didn't pink,
what's gonna happen, You're gonna get sick.
Speaker 1 (40:10):
Right you talk about if his first pass is incomplete,
they're gonna want him out. Oh no, there's no question.
Speaker 3 (40:18):
The loud mooughs on the score, and he has pinned
one thousand and all the poison pens from the newspapers.
Speaker 1 (40:24):
They'll be out, all the force off DJ Moore's fingertips.
You'll hear Tyson page it.
Speaker 3 (40:30):
I'm not nice. I'm not saying there's not the cacophony
of idiocy out there. And I'm sure plenty in our
national sphere will go back down the cul de Sac
again thinking they made a wrong turn. Calm down, it
needs to cook.
Speaker 1 (40:45):
Two years ah, I I'd like to say I agree
with you. I'd like to say that because I think
it's ridiculous. But I could just see how it's gonna
play out that can. We really think year three is
gonna be different, but we kind of have to move on.
Let's move and you could just trade Canna Williams to
the Steelers. It'll be fine. They'll be looking for another guy.
It'll be fine.
Speaker 3 (41:05):
Aaron Rodgers is beginning of a five year It's like.
Speaker 1 (41:09):
A pipeline from Chicago to Pittsburgh. Quarterbacks Chicago go right
to Pittsburgh. Same kind of feel. Another big NFL quarterback
story coming up next
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