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June 21, 2024 40 mins

LA Times Lakers beat writer Dan Woike joins the show to talk about the team hiring JJ Redick as its next head coach. Jason and Mike discuss some of the main storylines surrounding the Copa America soccer tournament and Lionel Messi. Plus, reacting to new postgame comments from Angel Reese after she set the WNBA record for most double-doubles to start a career.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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(00:51):
fired a day ago. My Bowl prediction Lakers will be
talking to Monty Williams did not happen. Instead, this morning,
Rob Polinka offered the Lakers head coaching dob jj Reddicky
has accepted. According to Sores, is going to be a
four year deal.

Speaker 3 (01:04):
Is he the right choice? Did they actually talk to
Monty Williams?

Speaker 1 (01:07):
Joining us down the hot line longtime Lakers insider beat
writer at the La Times. He's on Twitter at Dan
Wiki Sports and also unfortunately a man who is now
for the second time in the last three years, not
gotten the Lakers head coaching job.

Speaker 3 (01:23):
It is Dan Wiki doub what's happening?

Speaker 4 (01:25):
Man, Guys, my day will eventually come. At this rate,
we'll be right back at this year soon enough.

Speaker 3 (01:29):
Yeah, it's good to look.

Speaker 1 (01:31):
Look, Hey, Doug Gottlieb's coaching Wisconsin Green Bay. JJ Reddick's
coaching the Lakers. Broadcasters, it's our time. Now, I'll manage
to match. At some point, you'll coach the Lakers.

Speaker 3 (01:39):
It'll work.

Speaker 4 (01:40):
The I'm good, I think it's how I.

Speaker 5 (01:43):
Say, how about in two years when Lebron's done and
I'm good?

Speaker 4 (01:47):
Look, And that's that's not to say that it's a
bad job. That's not what I'm saying. It is not
a bad job. By the way, can we just fall
that notion. It's not a bad job. It is a
very hard job, the like honestly, Like, I mean, there's
nothing quite like being a famous Laker really honestly. Now

(02:07):
for the coach, there's probably nothing quite like being a
famous Laker coach who has Twitter like, that's not gonna
be to make sure JJ's got those notifications off.

Speaker 1 (02:21):
I know, now, before we get to JJ, was there
any reach out to Monty Williams at all.

Speaker 4 (02:26):
They wouldn't. No, No, they were pretty pretty well done
the road, and I think on JJ.

Speaker 5 (02:33):
It just wasn't.

Speaker 4 (02:35):
And I don't mean this in a way to be
disrespectful with all the money Williams. I just think that, like,
you know, they wanted to be innovative on this, and
they wanted to take a healthy size swing. And part
of the reason for that it has every I mean,
it has a lot to do with kind of the
rules of the new the new CBA rules in which

(02:58):
you know, you're really if you kind of go about
it the way the Lakers have gone about things, which
is star star star star star right or like attempting
to do it that way. There was a feeling that
they needed to find somebody more forward thinking I think
would be a good way to put it, versus like
turn of you know, like like and now this is

(03:19):
partly spin right, like the these are kinds of things
you say about without an experience, is that like you
say things like he's not like burdened by the sins
of his profession, you know, just going that phrase. I
like it, but but like to a certain degree, right,
Like you know, you don't know the bad habits that
have come with coaching for the last ten years, the
same way somebody who's been in the industry for twenty

(03:40):
years and has developed a pretty good idea as to
what coaching is. So I think like that actually they
view that actually as a strength in this case, so
that this is somebody who is going to be adaptable
and somebody who's going to grow with the need of
like ever evolving NBA at this moment, you know, And
I think they did. That's what That's one of the

(04:02):
things they really like about JJ Redick.

Speaker 5 (04:05):
Well, and that, as Jason and I have talked about
a little bit, Dan and with you in the past.
One this is you don't know what you don't know.
But the guy that is there has fifteen years in
the league, made a lot of money playing, has been
around the game all this time. So it's not that
you've got to cook him into practice anymore. You just
have to listen to what he may have learned through

(04:27):
the process. Earning said millions.

Speaker 4 (04:30):
Well, no, no, my I think you're right, and I mean,
look this again, no disrespect, I says, but I think
this is an arguable fact. Who knows more about the
NBA today, Dan Hurlier, JJ Redick, right, you know, honestly,
and like people were losing their ever loving bleep over
Dan Early, you know, kind of in those couple of days.

(04:52):
And I mean the track record for college coaches and
doing it in the NBA just as poor functionally as
the track record guys with no experience doing it in
the NBA.

Speaker 1 (05:02):
So I I I'm Dan Wiki, I'm going to torpedo
my own point watch this.

Speaker 3 (05:10):
I guess.

Speaker 4 (05:11):
I guess what I'm gonna say is they should have
hired Huby Brown. Really what they could have done. No,
But but I think, like I think I can say, Look,
they they you, Dan Hurley is forward thinking as well,
and that was part of the reason why they were
drawn to him, right as they've seen kind of the
way he's attacked college is the college game, how he's
been able to kind of adapt to, you know, the

(05:33):
the nil transfer portal era, and they viewed that as
a real strength. I think they saw similar qualities and
the two coaches, and look, they valued the experience. It's
why they offered Dan Hurley the job, right, it just
wasn't the only thing they valued.

Speaker 3 (05:47):
I know, I look at this part.

Speaker 1 (05:48):
You're looking for a big, a big outside of Hey,
how's JJ Redick going to do? I look at this
and think, well, this means Lebron is staying. I mean
he and JJ Redick are tight, and for Lebron.

Speaker 4 (05:58):
He probably can I can I pump the breaks on
some of this, Like he and Lebron are type okay
for a second, Like there they have obviously a relationship. Right,
how many episodes do you think you've done with your
best friend?

Speaker 5 (06:14):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (06:15):
I don't know. In the hundreds of thousands.

Speaker 4 (06:18):
There there There have been nine episodes of the Mind
in the Game podcast, by the way, Okay.

Speaker 3 (06:22):
But that's a lot for two people to work together.

Speaker 4 (06:24):
Nine but it's nine times but nine hours.

Speaker 3 (06:26):
But you don't think Lebron.

Speaker 4 (06:28):
And I will tell you. I can tell you. I
can tell you. I'm reporting this. It's gonna be a
story'm running. It's gonna run the only time they didn't
really have a relationship before any of this. Now that
doesn't mean that they haven't like become like some level
of basketball soulmates or whatever. Possibly, But but I really
think though like that it's like this is his guy.

(06:48):
Is a little overstated.

Speaker 1 (06:50):
Well, no, it's his guy in that I'm comfortable with
him and I can kind of coach just as much
as JJ Rettick coaches.

Speaker 4 (06:56):
Well, and I think I mean, look, look, if you
think that Lebron James needed to see JJ Redick for
him to feel comfortable sharing opinions, I would tell you
you're incorrect. I would say that they could hire John
Wooden's hologram and Lebron jameson still.

Speaker 3 (07:14):
Have I did.

Speaker 5 (07:24):
I'm tweeting it out National seven.

Speaker 4 (07:28):
He could reanimate Red Holtzman and Lebron James would still
look at Red Holtzmon like what do you know about
any of this? I'm actually out here in the trenches.
And that's not to say Lebron is like a coach killer,
but it's just like he is regarded honestly as like
one of the smartest players, if not the smartest player
ever to play. He's done it for two decades. He's

(07:50):
not gonna not say what he thinks. And he look,
he said it to Darbenham, he said to Frank Bogo,
He's gonna say it to JJ Redick, I think you know.
To me, one of the things that I know is
like like and you can actually if you watch some
of these episodes off I get, you can watch JJ
Redick talk Lebron down. There was a clip that I
mentioned today to a high ranking Laker official, will say

(08:13):
where you know, they're talking about analytics and stuff like that,
and Lebron, you know, as most players do at some
point push back right, analytics is like the calculator geeks
or whatever you know, and like doctor Hoopers and he said,
Lebron says to Jji were like, what happens when you
realize this report? Like that's fine. What happens when a
team goes over twenty eight or missus twenty eighth straight

(08:36):
like Houston did against the Golden State Warriors. Great questions
to JJ, Redick said it with zero seconds of hesitation
to win this argument. Has it happened since? And he
won the argument and le Problem lapped and was like, no,
it hasn't. And like he disarmed him, like really really quickly.
And to me, like this is a guy who's like
navigated a bunch of different locker rooms. I'm gonna tell

(08:57):
like I'm talking JJ up. I like JJ I'm excited
for him. Very cure shows up because it is totally crazy.

Speaker 1 (09:04):
Well, hang on, Dan, I'm googling Lebron James Trapezoid of success.

Speaker 3 (09:08):
Hang on, I want to see how this.

Speaker 4 (09:12):
Good. Yeah, let me know what's in it.

Speaker 3 (09:15):
Yours doesn't work anymore.

Speaker 4 (09:18):
One of the one of them is good Men's care products.
That's the latest. Okay, there you go, tequila, high end tequila.
The uh No, I think I think here's something that
I kind of stumbledupon to day one time. I tell you,
he really has sort of lived every basketball life in
some fashion other than like coach, he was inarguably the

(09:39):
best player in like on his college basketball team. And
it wasn't like a low profile situation, right like, this
is the leading scorer in Duke basketball history, one of
the most hated college basket players of all temper player
I absolutely loathed all right, Like, you know, he and
I have talked about this. I hated him as a
college basketball fan and and so he knows what it's

(10:01):
like though to like have to operate as like the
guy at the top of the Skotting report. It's not
doing it, you know, for the Lakers, but doing it
for Duke is like not nothing. You know, he was
a rookie in the NBA, by the way, a lottery
pick who didn't play and didn't have a real role
and was then unsure putting in the NBA until he
found it. So he can relate with guys like Kle
and the Chaffino are trying to find their way through

(10:22):
the NBA because he's been there. He's also been a
crazy important role player, right, and then he was also
a declining role player and like the Vet, you know,
who doesn't get the minutes he won, who wasn't closing
games the way he wanted. So like he's like lived
all these locker room spaces. And you know, we talk
a lot about JJ with like sort of the X
of the o's and stuff, because that's what the podcast
or one of the podcasts is, is like basketball strategy.

(10:46):
But but really what his greatest strength might end up
being is his empathy.

Speaker 1 (10:52):
Wow, that should be a shirt put on your JJ
Redy T shirt?

Speaker 3 (10:56):
There, Buddy?

Speaker 4 (10:57):
About that? How about that?

Speaker 1 (10:58):
I might put that on a T shirt? People respond,
Empathy wins championships. Forget about defense. Empathy wins titles.

Speaker 4 (11:05):
Number one all time leaving scored and number one time empathy.
I just think it's like, but I think you got it.

Speaker 1 (11:11):
But the thing is you got to get But to
do this, you got to get Lebron and Ad to
buy it.

Speaker 3 (11:16):
And they're going to do their own thing because they've
always done their own thing.

Speaker 4 (11:20):
I don't think that's totally true. I mean, look, I
think you know, I think like they played Frank Vogel
style of defense. They bought in for that. A lot
of things changed subsequently. Kederkl Mamar is very good friend.
Russell Westbrook was part of a trade. Like kind of
some reason that stuff, the bubble layoff which was very

(11:40):
short and some people were some a little wide coming
back had some issues to do with some of that
stuff too. But no, I mean I think they I mean, look,
they bought into that system, they played defense, they did
it their way, and honestly, like I think, like when
you come up of a situation, just human nature, right
like when when and players were not happy with Everingham,

(12:01):
that's not breaking news. I think they want to, Like
guys in the locker room wanted to see a change
the front. The team did it. They gave them the change.
I think guys are going to come in just naturally
open minded because it's different. It's a different voice, it's
a different way of doing things. Now, what that like
length of rope looks like considering you know, he's not

(12:21):
Greig Babovich's not Eric Folstra, Like that's an interesting question,
but I think, like right away, I don't think Bayan
will be the issue.

Speaker 5 (12:29):
Okay, the issue is talent. So what do you do
one of them? When is Rob that then get to do? Well,
it's kind of a big one. I mean I could
I could sit here and you know, you're you have
your Chicago ties, so we we could talk Cruso and
the fleecing of a bulls management. But right now, let's
stay in La and keep it localized with Rob Polinka
as well what he does to fortify I.

Speaker 4 (12:51):
Mean, it's a good segue. It's a good segue. I mean,
Crusoe was the player they are interested in, right like,
I mean, he's a player they've tried to reacquire. Sure,
you know, I think there is sort of three sort
of schools of thought as to like how they're going
to handle their roster this summer. You know, there's the
most obvious one, the one that gets the most like
sort of clicks and attention, And that's like you take

(13:12):
the three picks, get bundle them, and you go trade
for a star, right whatever that even looks like, you know,
Trey Young will say, right, throw all the picks together,
make them offer for Trey Young. That's one option. They
can do that next, they can do that next Wednesday
on Draft night. They have the ability to do that.
Another option would be that you are still you're still aggressive,

(13:34):
but you kind of unbundle, right and you look to
see what what is your twenty nine first runt pick
pitche You know, like what does that get you? Sort
of what Dallas did you know last year the trade
eland Does that get you a Daniel Gafford type player?
Does that get you a PJ. Washington type player?

Speaker 3 (13:51):
You might that might be the pick you need to
get Bronnie.

Speaker 4 (13:55):
But but I mean I think like I think like
it'll get you like that that type the pick has
that sort of value right now. The question sort of
becomes is then, like you know, you're you're making some
real evaluations about what you already have in the house,
and you're trying to say, like Okay, is it worth
this twenty nine first round pick to get seven percent

(14:15):
better than Ruey Hachimura or twelve percent better than Riy Hashimura,
right or something like that? And you know that for
gets tricky, but I think that is an option too.
And the other option is is that you just kind
of you kind of look at last season and you say, what,
we thought coaching was an issue, Okay, we fixed that.
And we thought point of attach defense was an issue,
Well we fix that just by having Gabe Vincent Jared
Vanderbilt be healthy. Now, counting on health I think is

(14:38):
always risky, right, especially when you have a foty year
old and Anthony Davis at the front of your roster.
But those are those are kind of the pathways, and
I think there's like a real hope that like internal improvement,
internal development will will grow that like the Austin Reeves
we saw last year will be worse than the one
we see this year, because that's what players in their
fourth year do, right, Like they get better that Max

(15:03):
Christie will in his third season matter for this team.
You know, sub versions of that like not not matter
in a you know, Shakee Gills as Alexander kind of way,
but like play rotation minutes, like they'll be a part
of what they're trying to do, you know, and that
will get better. Like these guys who you know have
not research ceiling will start at this internal development because

(15:25):
of you know, I don't want to say it's the
only way, but it's by far the preferred path when
you think about one the cost of marginal improvements and
two you know the techon Apron which is scaring the
Bejesus out of teams when it comes to roster buildings.

Speaker 1 (15:44):
You can fall him on Twitter at dan Wiki Sports
That is at Dan Whyky Sports, LA Times, Lakers Insider Extraordinarior.
Dan as always, Buddy, appreciated, my friend. We'll talk to
you soon.

Speaker 4 (15:55):
Have fun sounds good guys, Thank you Caving, good night
you buddy.

Speaker 5 (15:58):
Appreciate you. Dan.

Speaker 3 (15:59):
You can be the coach of Lakers. No, I'm good.

Speaker 5 (16:02):
I'm good.

Speaker 3 (16:03):
I think I'm good, Guys, I think I'm good.

Speaker 5 (16:05):
Oh but I mean the follow up is, how about
two years from now, if and when it becomes available, Oh.

Speaker 1 (16:10):
Well, two years ago, that's a different story. One hundred
percent Exit al Valafresca, Exit Swollendome, great stuff, from Dan
Wiki there about the potential of JJ Redick. Again, we
talked about the potential of redicking his success. Coming up next,
what is, without a doubt, the most fun story tonight
in sports. We opened the show with it, and now
things have changed since we talked about this a couple

(16:33):
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Speaker 1 (17:18):
Fox Sports Radio The Jason Smith Show with my best
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(17:38):
more than two days, you know what happens twice, Sometimes
not always, there's a third time. Here we go and
then we get in to talk about stuff that's pretty good.

Speaker 5 (17:57):
Thirty fifth anniversary of the release of Prince Batman album.

Speaker 1 (18:01):
Oh Yeah, but bat Dance. Vicky Veil, vick Vel, Vicky Vel,
Vicky Veil, Vicky Vel. Now, speaking of movies, we lost
an absolute legend today the death of Donald Sutherland at
the age of eighty eight, announced by his son Keifer
on social media. And Donald Sutherland so many incredible movies

(18:23):
that he was a part of. No matter what, it's
weird because no matter what generation you are a fan
of film fan, he had roles that you remember the
rest of your life. Whether it was Mash in the
early seventies, you know, it could have been that. It
could have been Invasion of the Body Snatchers in the
early eighties, right, or it could have been the Hunger
Games in the two.

Speaker 5 (18:44):
Thousand kids were pissed.

Speaker 1 (18:46):
Oh man, I'll tell you as many great roles as
he had right as many great roles as he had,
and he played, you know, top to bottom. He played
the good guys, played the bad guys, He played the
supporting characters, played the leads. Being president Snow was the
cherry on top of his career Sunday because he was
so menacing without having to raise his voice, without having

(19:10):
to be crazy.

Speaker 3 (19:13):
He was on the screen and it was just like,
what's he going to do? Now? Look?

Speaker 1 (19:17):
I read all the books, so I knew Snow's character
and his and his character arc and everything. But he's
on screen and it just crackles because you have no
He's one of those characters you have no idea what
he's going to do. He could he could just be
having a conversation with you. He could be ready to
put a pair of shears into your throat. He can
make you eat a bowl of poison strawberries, you know,
whatever it is. He was that and that role that

(19:39):
he had was so good. He was such a great
villain and he elevated the product because the Hunger Games
movies were just okay like the books in the movies,
the first book and movie were fantastic. One of the
best books I've ever read. Then the second book in
movie not quite as good as the first. The third
book and movie, and the fourth movie not quite as
good as the second, A little messy, got a little

(20:01):
out there. The prequel was really good about snow when
he was when he was a young man. But he
was the one that saved all of those because he
was just so menacing and and he ate the camera
when he was on was oh oh, oh Snow, what's
gonna what's gonna happen, What's gonna happen? He had that
kind of presence. So to have that career and have
it topped by his performance as President snow Man, that's

(20:23):
really something.

Speaker 5 (20:23):
But you go all the way through and there's just
those memorable like one scene, two scene, kind of stealing
kind of things. A lot of written today about jfkh
being on the bench backdraft.

Speaker 3 (20:37):
Right.

Speaker 5 (20:37):
I was telling the girls, you know, hey, what you
want to see the masterclass? Go go watch his character
there to.

Speaker 3 (20:43):
The fire, look at you. It looked at you, didn't it.

Speaker 5 (20:46):
Yeah, absolutely terrifying. Right, just keep on going. He was
a you know, a voice, just his voice appears but
with Nick Cage because we got to tie it all together.
Go back to Lord of War, one of those underrated
movies that I always loved, that one to go back
six Degrees of Separation. I mean, you could do just

(21:06):
a full run of everything, even you know, some of
those period pieces that he would sneak his way into
and become a big part of. I mean, there's just
so much to his career and to your point, yeah,
that's the last thing that I think everybody remembers him from.
And certainly you know, as I said, my daughters, they

(21:26):
saw the news and they both started talking out scenes
and how terrifying he was. And the first thing they
said was he didn't yell. It was just never had
that that resonance in his eyes.

Speaker 1 (21:39):
And he had that smile that was so creepy. That
could be a joyful smile or a wolfish smile where
I'm going to.

Speaker 3 (21:47):
Eat your head like that. That would he be able
to do well? Put who he was out.

Speaker 1 (21:51):
He was just thrilling to watch on camera. Absolute legend.
Donald Sutherlin passed away at the age of eighty eight.
We will have that story that has changed from the
beginning of the show coming up in about ninety seconds.
But first it is special delivery Steve to Seger, who
I once put a bowl of poisoned strawberries in front
of He did not eat any of them. How about that,
but instead brought them home for his wife. Uh wow, what's.

Speaker 3 (22:14):
Trending in the wide world of sports?

Speaker 1 (22:20):
Hey, Tyscher? Can we turn to Saga's mic on. He's
gonna try to do to what's trending?

Speaker 3 (22:23):
I kind of wanted to do it myself. Okay, okay.

Speaker 7 (22:28):
Lawsuit pending on the strawberries fer the late game in
Major League Ben Jason, that's they're really good.

Speaker 5 (22:36):
They're sweeter than normal. What's going on here? Uh?

Speaker 7 (22:39):
It's in San Diego the Late Bowl game and the
Brewers have finally tied it up against the Padres six '
six in the top of the knife. The feature matchup
was in Birmingham Saint Louis edge San Francisco six to five.
The teams were wearing throwback uniforms that highlight the history
of the Negro leagues in those two cities. The game
was at historic rick Wood Field in Birmingham. Attendants has

(23:01):
sold out about eighty three hundred. Rick Woodfield is the
oldest pro ballpark in the US. It opened in nineteen ten,
and in fact, the park has seen over one hundred
and eighty future Hall of Famers passed through since nineteen ten,
including a teenage Willie Mays, Jackie Robinson, Babe Ruth played there,
Hank Aaron, Reggie Jackson, who was on the Fox TV

(23:22):
broadcast tonight. Baltimore beat the Yankees today in New York,
seventeen to five, Anthony santandera three run homer. The O's
have homered in nineteen straight games. The losing pitcher, Luis
Hill of New York, was nine to one this year,
but he allowed seven runs in an inning and a third.

Speaker 4 (23:38):
Today.

Speaker 7 (23:39):
Aaron Judge did hit his twenty seventh homer. Kansas City
hit three home runs in a three to two win
at Oakland Attendance eight thousand, seven hundred one homer by
Bobby Witt Junior, by the way, who's betting three twenty
two for the Royals. Kansas City seth lugo and no
decision despite eight strikeouts in six and two thirds.

Speaker 3 (23:56):
He's ten and two this year.

Speaker 7 (23:57):
Houston won five to three at the White Sox Iago's
record twenty and fifty six. The Dodgers got a leadoff
homer from Shoeo Toni is twenty first of the year.
Five to three LA's final at Colorado, Will Smith and
Freddie Freeman with solo home runs and the win did
the Dodgers. Gavin Stone, He's eight and two. He had
seven strikeouts in five and a third victories for Arizona,

(24:18):
Cleveland and Tampa Bay won in ten innings at Minnesota
seven to six. The College World Series finals don't start
till Saturday, beginning a best of three number one Tennessee
against number four ranked Texas eight and m.

Speaker 3 (24:30):
So we're in the finals now.

Speaker 1 (24:32):
No more super regionals, no more super super regionals.

Speaker 5 (24:36):
No.

Speaker 3 (24:36):
And you're now in one final, best of three.

Speaker 7 (24:38):
This is it and we may actually get to another
Stanley Cup final game tomorrow May Day.

Speaker 3 (24:45):
So that way, I don't know. I don't know, man,
that maybe it.

Speaker 7 (24:48):
Was three games to none, it's now Florida three games
to two. They're at Edmonton tomorrow in game number six.
A Game seven would be at Florida on Monday. Florida
has never won the Cup.

Speaker 1 (24:59):
Won I won four to say. Yeah, we're gonna drag
you back to Florida. Now you dragged us. Oh no, wait,
we should actually win we don't want to do that, Okay,
hang on, stay tuned. You know they lost the final
last year.

Speaker 7 (25:09):
A team has not lost the Cup final in back
to back seasons since the nineteen seventies, when Boston lost
to Montreal.

Speaker 3 (25:16):
Back back to back.

Speaker 7 (25:17):
The Canadian team has not won the Cup since nineteen
ninety three. Edmonton trying for an immense comeback there.

Speaker 1 (25:24):
Thanks to Marty McSorley stick or it would have stended
out even further.

Speaker 3 (25:28):
Just yeah, it just wouldn't have been a sweet.

Speaker 7 (25:30):
The Copa America tournaments started tonight on FS one Argentina
two nothing winners against Canada. At the Euro Soccer Tournament,
Denmark tied, England won one, Serbia tied, Slovenia won one
with a goal in the final seconds ninety fifth minute.
Spain absolutely dominated Italy one nothing was a final, but
they outshot him twenty to four.

Speaker 1 (25:49):
I don't know that Italy got the ball across the
middle of the field in that game.

Speaker 3 (25:53):
I mean really the.

Speaker 1 (25:54):
Stimulate and the play was an own goal because the
pressure was just too much that they forced it.

Speaker 3 (25:59):
They were it was like, oh my good.

Speaker 1 (26:01):
I mean, you're talking about one of the former world powers.
They looked like a team like when you don't even
deserve to be on the same field as they know.

Speaker 7 (26:08):
Italy won the last Euro title at England. Italy kicks
and yeah, Spain dominant and this was not the kind
of Spain that we've seen the last decade of just
passing back and forth and keeping possession and they might score,
they were dominant in keeping possession. It was really something
to see. The Lakers new head coaches JJ Reddick. Sacramento

(26:29):
will re sign Malik Monk to a four year deal.
The Bulls are reportedly trading guard Alex Caruso to Oklahoma
City for Josh Getty. Trades cannot be announced until July sixth.
The Celtics victory parade is tomorrow in Boston. WNBA wins
for New York and Chicago.

Speaker 3 (26:45):
Thank you, Thank you, Steve.

Speaker 1 (26:46):
The Jason Smith Show with Mike carmon Life the tyrack
dot Com Studios. Now you mentioned the the COPA that's
going on right now and Argentina wins the Euro going
on at the same time. Really exciting time right now,
a kind of a mini World Cup type situation where
you have so games on all day every day, different
tournaments and here's how here's.

Speaker 5 (27:04):
How I could in California.

Speaker 1 (27:07):
But here's the thing, here's how crazy it is. These
are two different soccer tournaments going on at the same time,
and I can keep both of these soccer tournaments straighter
than I can the College World Series. No good for you, really,
I mean you could just tell you. You could just
keep telling. They could just keep playing the College World
Series in perpetuity and I would never know different.

Speaker 5 (27:27):
Who twenty four. Well, we're not really done yet. Florida's
November of twenty six.

Speaker 1 (27:33):
Florida State's playing again today, haven't they didn't they lose
like six times?

Speaker 3 (27:36):
No, they keep going. It's a it's a it's a
quintuple elimination. Oh all right, got it?

Speaker 7 (27:40):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (27:41):
But Leonel Messi and Argentina have a bit of a
tougher game you'd expect, But they beat Canada tonight. They
were upset about the field, which is a different story.
But you know, this is the thing about players like
Lebron or even Caitlin Clark or Mahomes Brady, as many
stars are polarizing that people are ready to hate and

(28:03):
fans are ready to hate if they underachieve. There is
nobody in the world that fans are ready to hate
more than Leono Messi. I mean really, I mean, the
guy has done everything you possibly can in his career.

Speaker 3 (28:17):
Big time goal scorer. Check. Finally won the World Cup. Check.
You don't win three four World Cups. You win a
World Cup, you cement your legend. This is the best
soccer player we've seen in the last decade plus.

Speaker 1 (28:27):
And he missed a scoring chance tonight in the first
half against Canada that he probably should have buried. He
had a long ball where he was one on one
with the goalie. The goalie made the save, but he
wound up getting the ball in front of the net.
The defender came in to slide and make a save,
and you would have thought that Messi blew a penalty
kick to lose the World Cup. He's overrated, He's a fraud.

(28:49):
Nobody is ready to hate and an athlete more than
people are ready to hate Messi so much something all
hit I'm looking at I'm watching social media going, oh
my god, the guy. The guy scored ten thousand goals
in his career. He's gonna score ten thousand more. He
doesn't score in this one play opening game of the
Copa America right in the game they still won.

Speaker 5 (29:10):
I sent you the two stills, yes, because he was
so bad to score at any time goal people were
so pissed, like what about these chances? And people can
these two chances?

Speaker 1 (29:21):
They want to hate him so much to say, you're
a fraud, you state Messi's always been this way, and
I'm like, people are insane, right, But then here's my
favorite part of the story is that there's this conversation
that goes on about how you know, people think a
lot of soccer fans think ESPN has their favorites, right,
they don't like Christian Ronald as much as I like
Leonel Messi and Messi they always make excuses for and

(29:43):
it's always fun because there's no more conversation about what
fans think about what what athletes say about a sport
more than soccer, right, Like if Barkley says Charles Barkley
says something that's interesting, yeah, we talk about it, but
it's never Oh he said this about the magic And
I can't stand that. No people really care about what
certain entities say about about the big players. And I'm like,

(30:06):
I don't know, man, I think that's kind of a myth.
Reallyp really think you really think ESPN is gonna make
excuses for Leonel Messi.

Speaker 3 (30:12):
Okay, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (30:13):
And then I check ESPN dot com about twenty minutes ago,
and the big picture on the front page argent You know,
Argentina wins, and it was Argentina game scores. Because what
they do is they score. Every player gets scored on
a scale of one to ten, right, and if you
play ten, that's a perfect game. If you play eight,
that's a really really good game. Five or six is
an average game. And that's how they score. All the

(30:35):
players are which is really cool. It helps, It helps
a lot of fans.

Speaker 3 (30:38):
Oh okay, so this person really had a bad game
and didn't quite to adequate to this.

Speaker 1 (30:41):
But on the front page of ESPN dot com it's
a Argentina game scores Messi eight out of ten.

Speaker 5 (30:47):
Well he had two chances, there's two points like this.

Speaker 3 (30:52):
Oh no, no, it is ESPN.

Speaker 1 (30:53):
They don't really care, No, no, no, Messi eight out
of ten games.

Speaker 5 (30:56):
Hey, if they give him a ten out of ten,
are you clicking? Nope, nope, you need that eight out
of ten. You want that eight out of ten.

Speaker 1 (31:06):
He had a great game. Everybody ate out at all.
He had a great game. Wait a minute, Wait a minute,
wait a minute, and he missed a big skull. No, no, no,
he's eight out of tad. We love MESSI, we love MESSI. Okay, okay,
how great is there?

Speaker 5 (31:18):
But like by the same token though, Jason, I mean,
and it is just like Brady and Lebron and and
certainly what we've seen in the infancy of this WNBA
version of Caitlin Clark. Congratulations to the Aces for selling
out every one of their home dates. You know, got
to make mention of that, because that was a big
headline today is the fact that there's just as many

(31:39):
people looking to knock Messy off his perch. Sure there's
the perch, knock him off the perch, but there's the
deification on the other side. You have to figure out
which side. There's not a whole lot of indifferent going Yeah,
he's pretty good. Moving on, I'll talk about something else, like, no,
he's either the greatest thing or you have to try
to tear him down. We don't have a society where

(32:00):
we can have calm, rational discussions. It's either you suck,
you cost me my over or whatever. The case may be,
or they're genuflecting. I mean, they showed the slow walk,
and I found it funny that the announcers as they
were coming out of halftime, it's like, this is the
longest walk ever back to the pitch, Like they're just

(32:21):
slowly walking through, as if they had to wait for
a full like they were part of a graduation percential.
It's like, all right, or they're the last country to
be announced at the Olympics. Okay, next, But they show
them walking in to for the first half, and they're
walking past, you know, and then the glass. You've got

(32:41):
a bunch of fans that can see them, and they're
slamming up against the glass. There he is, there, he
is growing. People reduced to heaps, breathing on the heavily
on the glass because this guy walked past them.

Speaker 1 (32:56):
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Show with Mom I, best friend Mike Harmon.

Speaker 5 (33:02):
Coming up night.

Speaker 1 (33:02):
Look, everybody Lebron is like Jordan compared to Messy, with
people ready to hate Messy more than anything else. Coming
up next, a big story about Angel Reese that's a
little controversial, but not the way you think it is.

Speaker 3 (33:17):
That's next right here, Jason and Mike. Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 2 (33:21):
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Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
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Speaker 1 (33:28):
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Speaker 2 (33:31):
Damn Son, Where'd you find this?

Speaker 5 (33:35):
So? Big day?

Speaker 1 (33:35):
Earlier today in the WNBA Angels sixteen points, eighteen rebounds
a huge day. She now has set the rookie record
for most double doubles to start a career, which, okay,
now we're starting to make up records.

Speaker 3 (33:49):
It's a rookie record. Okay, it's not really a record.

Speaker 1 (33:51):
It's just it's a nice run that she's like for anybody,
it's the most games, Like how many times you say
somebody like, hey, Wemby is the first time someone's had
a twenty five, five and three first half since nineteen
ninety six, Like we make up stuff like that. But
it's been a great run for She's been every bit
of the Draymond Green we said she was going to

(34:13):
be a couple months ago. And again, congratulates to everybody
else who stole that from us. Uh, we told you
that was good to she what we should going to
be a couple months ago. But here's what she said
on the court following there. When they've had a tough
time the last few games, the Sky have not been
playing well. They're below the fever in the standings. You
know the rivalry that Angel Reese and Caitlin Clark have.
And here's Angel Reese her on court interview following the game.

(34:35):
And when I saw this, it made me realize, yes,
I am right when I know what the biggest challenge
of my career is going to be the rest of
the way.

Speaker 7 (34:42):
The seventh straight double doubles. No other hookie in WNBA
history has done that.

Speaker 8 (34:49):
So let us get your initial reactions since making history
here today.

Speaker 5 (34:53):
The man, I'm the that we finally won.

Speaker 4 (34:55):
I'm at home.

Speaker 8 (34:57):
It's super exciting, obviously for myself, and I thought to
get myself some grace and tell myself I'm doing a
good job, but I have so much more to grow,
and I'm.

Speaker 4 (35:03):
I'm just excited to be in this league and just
excited to win.

Speaker 8 (35:06):
Somewhere, Angel, your name is being mentioned with some of
these great post players that have paid played for the
Chicago Sky. Candice Parker, Elena Dela Don Sylvia Files. You're
on pace to break Sylvia Files single season franchise offensive
rebounding record.

Speaker 2 (35:23):
What does that mean to you?

Speaker 5 (35:25):
I love Sylvia. She was a great person to me
and a great mento to me when.

Speaker 4 (35:29):
I was at LSU.

Speaker 5 (35:30):
Man I but had that relationship with LSU.

Speaker 4 (35:32):
So I'm not she's gonna be.

Speaker 5 (35:33):
Super proud of me.

Speaker 4 (35:34):
I mean, obviously, I just want to do whatever it
takes to win, and rebound is what I do to win.

Speaker 3 (35:39):
All right, So there's Angel reason. This is what I say.

Speaker 1 (35:42):
We had this conversation a few months ago, or I said,
you know, understanding the gen Z athlete is going to
be the biggest challenge I have going forward because the
change in attitude in life, attitudes and the way people
look at life. Is there a big difference from gen
X to millennials?

Speaker 3 (36:00):
Not that much? Is it a big difference millennials to
gen Z? Absolutely?

Speaker 1 (36:04):
And when I watch Angel Reives giving this postgame press
conference and and just hearing her say, it's exciting for myself,
I give myself some grace and tell myself I'm doing
a good job. I know such and such a player
Cylvia Fouls is going to be super proud of me.
It's just such a foreign concept to me to hear players, Hey,

(36:24):
be very comfortable with patting themselves on the back and
dealing with their emotions and telling you exactly what is
on their mind. And that's the great part about gen Z.
But it's also something that is as someone who has
evaluated athletes for my life, it's a different thing because
I'm not used to athletes saying, hey, I got to
remind myself, I got to give myself grace that that

(36:45):
I'm doing a good job. Like I'm not used to
any athletes saying that, used to any athletes saying, oh yeah,
so and so is going to be super proud of me.

Speaker 3 (36:52):
And this is not anything that's bad.

Speaker 1 (36:54):
This is just Generation Z has been has been taught, Hey,
talk about your feelings and say them, and it's not
something that's bad if other people have to deal with
it if you say it. But in sports, it's not
the way that all of us have come up with
a We always talk about our feelings and we use
III and oh so and so sounds like they're full
of themselves and they have a lot of attitude. Like

(37:14):
and I've told you before Angel Reese has one of
the biggest egos in the world.

Speaker 3 (37:17):
But this is not that. This is just this is.

Speaker 1 (37:20):
How Generation Z players and athletes think and how they talk,
and it's a way they think that I have to
get used to because there's not a lot of difference
in Angel rees and some of the girls that I've
coached the.

Speaker 3 (37:29):
Way they say hey.

Speaker 1 (37:30):
You know, I say, hey, let's talk about something each
of us liked after the game, and one of the
girls would say a girls would say, hey, I'm super
proud of the way that I did this, or I'm
I'm super proud of the way that I did this,
and I'm like, all right, that's awesome. And it's just
something I have to get used to because it's just
such a foreign concept to me. And hearing her talk,
you know, being excited after a big win and playing
really well. It's just a different thing that I have

(37:52):
to get used to, which is why I say, Hey,
getting used to the Gen Z athlete and what goes
through their heads and how they think about things in process,
it's gonna be a really big challenge.

Speaker 4 (38:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (38:00):
The hard part off of everything there is that people
are going to pick up on the times that she
says me or I or whatever, and think that she's
making it about herself. Like a lot of it was
in the context of we're winning, we were at home,
we had a massive crowd during the day, all of
these things, because you know, just extrapol I think I

(38:21):
watched some of the other clips that were circulating, you know,
just so proud that the you know, they actually got
one right, and we watched it with you know, to
bring her in, you know, Caitlin Clark and the fever
on this little run. You know, you could feel a
little bit of the weight lifted from her shoulder. And
I think for Angel Reae some of the same. Right,

(38:41):
she's playing really well, but it's also a hey, can
we actually get a win, because in the end, she
got used to winning a lot. And as we talked
to a lot of athletes throughout careers, Jayson, what's the
worst thing trying that the first time you get punched
in the face as a pro and you're on a
bad team because you got drafted high because you're good.

Speaker 1 (39:01):
Yeah, and you see that's that so and so who
lost eight games in their entire college career, has already
lost eight games as a rookie Ga.

Speaker 5 (39:08):
Yes, Like psychologically that that goes through a lot, and
I give her a lot of credit for just saying, hey,
you know, I got to remember, I'm still young in
this league. Got to have some you know, give myself
some grace because look, I watch it. You watch it
with your daughter and her teammates. I watch it with
my kid. She's in the middle of a tournament and
she all she did was bad mouth yesterday. I'm like, you,
guys didn't give up any goals, Like, like, how bad

(39:31):
could have been? Yet she's pointing out plays. I'm like, yeah,
but you did this or you did that, you know.
So like I relate to it just you know, through
her exploits on a soccer field, and I see it.
She's not too far removed from where you know, Angel
Reese and these players are in terms of age and
how they communicate, you know, through through the you know

(39:52):
I feel or I felt, you know, kind of things.
And I think it's it's refreshing because we used to
look at guys and go, what are you doing? You're
you're the outlier doing these things, but it's becoming more
and more than norm.

Speaker 1 (40:05):
Yeah, it's it's just a weird thing to see. And
again I have to check myself and go, Okay, what
do they really mean by this, because it's just it's
just a different way of thinking, because there's that huge difference.
But you know, when you get from the last generation
of Generation Z.

Speaker 5 (40:18):
But as she said, you know you look at hey,
she'd be proud of me. In other words, hey, I'm
murning my keep now, which is great.

Speaker 1 (40:25):
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