May 24, 2023 • 37 mins
Jason Smith and Mike Harmon tell you what the Lakers need to do moving forward with LeBron James. Kenny Pickett talks about Ben Roethlisberger’s comments on not wanting to see Pickett succeed last year. And we play the world famous Magic Johnson Twitter game!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 1 (00:30):
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one thing I know, Mike Carman, I think you and
I are both after the same exact thing. Right after
the show is over tonight, right we have to go
watch ted Lasso, because wow, are they're all kind of
the way I see it trending right now. I'm like, Okay,
something big, something big is happening. I got I gotta
go watch it right away or I'm just gonna get
it ruined for me the next in the next year,
(01:13):
it's twelve to sixteen hours.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
It seem like this one either got released faster or
got into the public domain in terms of commentary and
spoilers a lot faster than any other episode this season.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
Yeah, because I feel like it should just be released now,
right right, like because now it's it's nine o'clock West
Coast midnight on the on the East Coast, and that's
when it should be released, Like, that's when we should
get ted Lasso, but instead it's it's all over. So
I see trending's ted Lasso ted Lasso spoilers. I'm like, okay, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
I gotta get away from it.
Speaker 4 (01:47):
No.
Speaker 5 (01:50):
Do you want me to spoil it for you guys
right now?
Speaker 1 (01:51):
No, I don't want you to spoil anything.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
Are you watching it now? Is that what you're saying.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
No, he's just gonna say, here's a spoiler, the Mets lose.
He's just gonna say something like.
Speaker 5 (01:59):
That, Oh, the Mets losing is not a spoilers lost.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
The Knicks lost, that's a spoiler.
Speaker 5 (02:06):
That's again science.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
Again, Like I'm slipping around. I go to the homepage
of Yahoo, and it's like, hey, five things we learn
in this episode, Like what do we do it?
Speaker 1 (02:15):
Yeah? Like all of a sudden, Yeah, well, suddenly the
decorum of streaming shows with Hey, we wait a little bit.
We also make sure we put spoilers involved. No, that's
out the window now. It doesn't matter. We're losing the
clickbait war. We're losing the click war. Put it right
out there soon as the show comes out. As soon
as your column is done, you send it to me.
We'll proof free to put it on there. We'll get
it on there so you can see it. That's exactly
(02:36):
how we do it now.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
Now I have one question though, based on the open
to this hour of the show, say you and I do?
I mean, how many more years is it with that
open that references the Beeheims before we have to put
a disclaimer to explain who the Beaheims are.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
Ooh, well, you know, you got to give Buddy Beeheim
a little bit of time. Maybe he works himself into
being a good player in the NBA. You never know.
Speaker 4 (03:00):
And you know.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
Syracuse has some run in the NCAA tournament. Adrian Autrey
gets run. They'll talk a lot about Jim Beheim. So no,
I think I think we keep that that little buddy,
we keep it for a little while longer, I think, buddy, yeah,
we keep it going. I mean I don't know much longer.
You know, let's see if Syracuse basketball starts out like
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five and five, then we can get rid of it.
But I think it's gonna be a little more. I
think serious is gonna be a lot better this year.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
Okay, just you know, I was just wondering when we
hit the point where we're not thinking about them.
Speaker 5 (03:32):
Mike, I can delete it right now if you want
me to listen.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
We still we still run the Mike White Open. Come on, buddy,
we still we still run that. That's still it still exists.
Speaker 3 (03:41):
It's still still an NFL quarterback.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
He is. But you know it's it's it's now like
you know, a year and a half removed from that game.
Speaker 5 (03:48):
He gets the bangle, Mike, do you want it gone?
I can make it gone.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
No, no, no, no, no, it was more just a no.
Speaker 5 (03:55):
You bring up a valid point. I think we should
get rid of it.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
No, that's right, And I'll tell veto who does all
the sound work for us? Hey Frostburg is arbitrarily deleting
stuff that you create, and then you can talk to
Veto about it.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
And was about the random drops or clips that that
was bigger than something getting deleted from that.
Speaker 5 (04:17):
I'm glad we have that sound and delete it tonight.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
Okay, Yeah, just start deleting work. Other people do that.
That's a good job. That's a good job.
Speaker 5 (04:25):
Well, you brought up a valid point that that one
is outdated, Jason.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
No, you're right. Hey, you know what, make sure we
delete allbody.
Speaker 5 (04:30):
Cares about the Bay names anymore. Mike brought up a
valid point. I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
Okay, you can do that, But then how about you
make sure that highlights from like tonight don't get deleted
by tomorrow? How about you do that?
Speaker 5 (04:41):
Oh, nobody can do that. Jesus can do that.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
Do we have the Lebron play from last night? No,
it's gone, got deleted out of the system, the last
player regulation. Yeah, I got to lead it out of.
Speaker 5 (04:50):
The asking for miracles. I can't help you.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
We don't have that anymore. Where did it go?
Speaker 3 (04:55):
I don't know, can't find it a right great, didn't
you know Lebron's retired?
Speaker 1 (05:00):
What's the difference. I'll just talk about the play. That's
all that matters now. Speaking of Lebron, today was a
day that look, everybody woke up most likely and saw
the news that Lebron said in his postgame press conference
a night ago. I don't know what my future holds.
Maybe I come back next year, maybe not. Now he's
(05:20):
got two more years left, he's got ninety million dollars
coming his way. Is he really going to retire? No,
but he definitely went out of his way to talk
about it at the postgame press conference last night and
then to ESPN and to NBA on TNT. Oh yeah,
I don't know what I'm gonna do. I don't know
what I'm gonna do now. First of all, let me
just say this. You know, this is a team that
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just had a season of incredible highs and incredible lows,
and they end on a big upswing. They make the
Western Conference Finals, they get swept out in four games,
and a lot of it is let's deal with what
just happened. Our season is over now, and he decides
to take the press conference to make it all about him. Hey, yeah,
I might not I'm back next year. I don't know.
Wait what and in case, oh, no, no, And it's
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not something that just slipped out. It's not something and hey,
I didn't mean that to slip out. I said it
at the end. No, no, no. I talked about it
with ESPN. I talked about it with Chris Haynes and
the NBA on TNT.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
No.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
No, no. So that that's nice. That's a nice teammate
to decide, Hey, right after we get eliminated, I'm gonna
make this all about me. I might not come back
next year.
Speaker 3 (06:22):
Right.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
This is the reminder of where the Lakers were before
the trade deadline, where they were moving along the path
of how do we divorce ourselves from Lebron James?
Speaker 3 (06:33):
What happens?
Speaker 1 (06:33):
Because this is not getting better, it's not gonna end. Well,
what do we do? We're track, we got out from
Russell Westbrook, hooray, how do we get out from under this?
But the Lakers make the right moves of the trade deadline,
they get the right personnel in and they go on
a great run and then you forget everything that went on,
You forget everything that was Oh man, it's like, oh
things are great again. It's like when you go through
(06:55):
this big rough patch with with your significant other, and
you think, oh, man, we're gonna get divorced, or we're
gonna break up, or something's gonna happen, and you know,
you're kind of moving towards that of eventuality and who
knows when it's gonna be. And then you suddenly hit
an up swing. Hey we're getting along better.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
Now.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
Everything is great. I don't know what it is, but hey,
we're riding along well, thinking, hey, maybe we stay together.
I don't know, maybe we get engaged. And then oh no, no, no, no,
this is why, no, this is why we're gonna break up.
I get it, Okay, I can't be fooled by that again.
It's time to go break up. That's kind of where
I'm at with the Lakers and Lebron is that everything
was great. He was he was someone who fit himself in,
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and we saw the Lakers are at their best when
he doesn't have to score thirty five forty points a game,
and the Lakers really had something going on, and that's awesome,
and then you get this stuff last night when he says, yeah,
I don't know if I'm coming back, and today the
Lakers said, yeah, we expect Lebron to come back. We
hope he comes back next year, but we're not sure.
If I'm the Lakers, I say, you know what, Broun,
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you take your time. We're going forward as if we're
not gonna have you. They go out and get a star,
not a couple of players, not another shoot or not.
They got the shootings, They got hot Chamore, he's making shots.
He got Austin Reeves, he's making shots. They'll probably bring
both of them back. No, No, We're gonna go out
and get a star, whether it's Trey Young. There was
rumored today the Lakers might have interest in training for
him in the offseason. Whatever it is, go get a star.
(08:18):
Go get a star. And if when Lebron decides he
wants to come back, because he will want to come back,
then he'll fit in wherever he needs to fit in
because he can fit. He can play point guard, he
can be a big he can go and he can
do anything. Now he'll fit in with whatever you want
to do. But if I'm the Lakers, I call his
bluff and I go, you know what, We're sick and
tired of you holding up franchise hostage because that's what
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he's done for a couple of years, and that's what
he's doing now for however long it's gonna go, which
is likely the entire summer.
Speaker 3 (08:44):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (08:45):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
You know what, I proceed like, we are going to
not have you, and we're gonna remake this team. We're
gonna go get Trey Young or somebody else orhoever we're
gonna go get. And this is how we're gonna do.
We're gonna get Damian Lillard, whatever we wanna do. What
We're gonna trade a D for Julius Ran whenever, we're
gonna we go and we get another star and bring
in someone who can be a star. And Lebron, if
you want to come back, then you come back in,
(09:07):
and he'll come back in at some point because he's
got no choice. But if he decides to walk away,
then the Lakers win again because they get to remake
the franchise and reload on the fly with maybe someone
who could be a really good fit because he's younger,
has more legs, can play more minutes, and the Lakers
don't have to worry about being tired all the time.
That's how I do. I call his bluff and I
(09:28):
say you want, we're gonna go proceed like you're not
coming back, and then when you decide, yeah, we'll fit
you back in. That's how I do it.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
Yeah, it's a curiosity of going just between the timeline,
going back to the beginning of the season, the philosophical
side of things from the Lakers front office that we'd heard,
you know, the hey, we're not doing anything. You're going
into the season with Russell Westbrook. You made this bed,
you have to lie in it, right, That was what
(09:54):
we heard. They get off to this horrendous start, a
d miss his time, Lebron misses time, They make the
trade and totally redo this roster. We campaigned for Polenka's
Executive of the Year, all of those fun things as
you go, and the formula that you described of how
the Lakers were able to do a lot of damage
(10:16):
down the stretch was getting other people involved, finding plays
and playmakers, much like he did inexplicably in that final
minute of holding the ball into the final five seconds
of the shot clock and then going to trigger it
to shrewder over to Reeves gets deflected, he takes the
(10:36):
bad shot. We chronicled it all away last night, but
the brilliance of the first half. You know, we raised
our hand yesterday, we do it again here. Of it
was magnificent to watch, but it was also the I'm
going down with a huge stat line so nobody can
blame me, which was the antithesis of how they tried
(10:57):
to run the game and run the offense and get
everybody involved early in the in the past. Right, and
now you've got a lot of guys standing around, which
is what they did down the stretch when they had
a lead and should have been able to finish up
fifteen at halftime. So now, yeah, you go and you
figure out what the next iteration of this squad is
(11:18):
around him? All right, ads back, you want to keep
the core together, seeing what the cost is there and
how much flexibility you have if you do keep these
guys around. Is Kyrie irving someone that behind the scenes
they're making the big push for because he seems to
be present, He's he's freaking Waldo At this point in
(11:39):
the crowd, Hey, where's Kyrie today? There is third row?
See if he's sitting just behind where you know that
guy is, you know the guy with the big hat, Yeah,
that guy? And over here now he's on baseline like
he's just kind of moving around. And I know, Frostberg,
you want no part of this, but it may be
spoken into existence, does it. I don't really want to
(12:00):
get rid of Trey Young. No, No, they don't. They've
got a squad that could be moderately interesting going forward
if everybody's healthy and the young guys continue to develop.
But I'd look at this as Lebron will wait as
long as he can to make a decision. Folks are like, wow,
it'll happen before the drastic Why you don't have a
(12:22):
first round draft pick? It doesn't matter. And most of
the teams that are being rumored in all this, what
are you getting? What are you gonna be able to
go in package to move out? You don't have a
lot of discernible assets that are yours unless you're orchestrating
some of the greatest sign and trade deals of all time.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
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Call his bluff, I mean, do it, call his bluff.
You don't want to come back, We'll go get a star.
Because now the Lakers are a destination again. They see
we're pretty good. You want to take your time, We're
gonna move. I do it, call Us Bluff in his
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more on that coming up in a few minutes. But
a couple big things out of the NFL today and
the first one is that. Look. Kenny Pickett has said
there are no hard feelings toward Ben Roethlisberger after what
(15:16):
was said on Roethlisberger's podcast A day ago. Roethlisberger did
an interview with Kenny Pickett, had him on and said, listen,
I'm gonna get in a lot of trouble for this.
But in the beginning of last year, I was rooting
against you.
Speaker 3 (15:28):
Whoa, whoa, whoa.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
And Roethlisberger said, you know, it's you know, it's it's
part of just going through my thought process of you know,
you're gonna replace me, and do I really want you
to succeed? Then I found myself rooting for you and
it was great. And now they consider each other friends
and they talk and they text all the time. Kenny
Pickett came back today saying, well, what am I gonna
(15:51):
say after that? Yeah, he says he's cool. Kenny Pickett says,
I have no hard feelings toward Ben Roethlisberger. This is
where Isaac, when you think I'm gonna is this the
greatest thing in the world for Ben Roethlisberger to say that, Hey,
I was rooting against you. Wait, what what do you
mean You're rooting against you retired. You retired, You're going
(16:12):
to the Hall of Fame, you won two Super Bowls,
and you're jealous of Kenny Pickett getting attention In a word, yeah,
because all great athletes and you have to have this
to be great. You have to have a little bit
to a lot of this to be great. Every single
great athlete is selfish. They're selfish to the point not
(16:36):
where I want it to be all about me. I
take twenty five shots a game. I call plays differently
in the huddle, and I audible from a handoff to
a pass play. They're all selfish in that I know
I'm the best player out here. I'm the best thing
for this team. Every great athlete has that sense of selfishness.
(16:56):
I want the ball. I'm the best, and sometimes it
man if itself in a game. But this is here
Roethlisberger talking about the belief he has in himself and going, Okay,
now you think you can do it without me, And
that's a thing, you know. I don't want to see
some another team do it without me. I don't want
to see that. I want it to be about me.
I'm a little I'm selfish in that way. Every single
(17:19):
athlete has that trait. I am not surprised at this.
I recognize this. I get it. You need to be
a little bit too, a lot selfish. I felt that
way when I played sports, and just in rec leagues,
when I played softball and hockey, I didn't want our
team to win if I didn't have a big game.
I mean, it's not like I'm not saying I wanted
us to lose, but I felt worse if we won
(17:41):
a game. I was happy we won, but I felt
bad because I wanted to play well and I wanted
to play well and help the team win, and if
I didn't do that, I was mad. Now, luckily, because
you know, the kid is pretty talented, I didn't have
many games where I wasn't good enough, I didn't help
us win in hockey or in softball. I didn't have
many games like that, but I still felt that way.
I know it's selfish, but it's because I wanted to
(18:03):
play well and I want to do it, and if
I didn't, I was mad. I was always happy that
we won, and you know, I was happy with the
other guys played well. I was happy to go out
for beers after the game. All that but in the end,
I walk away going, man, I had a crappy game.
I had a crappy game. I can't have a game
like that again. Not that many of those games, because
I was really good, but I felt that way. And
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every athlete at every level that succeeds and gets to
a certain point feels that way. So I completely understand
Roethlisberger saying what he said about Kenny Picken White and
I was rooting against you. I understand exactly why he
was saying. I was not rooting for you beginning of
last year.
Speaker 3 (18:41):
No, Look, he wasn't convinced he was supposed to retire either.
He went. He went unwillingly into the good night and retirement.
Let's not kid ourselves in that process as well. Finally
got enough intel. Yeah you can't play anymore, buddy, but
I'm ready. I can do it. I got more year.
(19:01):
But the larger thing is, Look, we talk about it
a lot, and we bring everybody in wherever you're listening,
however you're listening, the iHeartRadio app, the download, the podcast,
all of those things. We appreciate you and wrap our
arms around you. But everybody in their work lives in
their relationships and everything. You aspire to be as great
(19:24):
as you can be, right, and then if it doesn't
work out the relationship or you move on from a job,
so you go to greener pastures. You're going to leave.
You want the people behind you to struggle, right, You
want it to be Wow, that guy was good, that
guy was great. She was awesome and could command a meeting,
or or really made sure we were set up for
(19:46):
success quarter after quarter, whatever the case may be. It
doesn't have to just be athletics, man, it is in everything.
There's that I make this go around. I mean, how
many times do we joke in a given week? And man,
I've been carrying your ass for how long? You know?
And it goes back and forth, and then occasionally, you know,
Tisher will throw in some random drop mark in his
(20:08):
stead today to make fun of us, or Frostburg will
come in with a one liner to just slap up
up outside the head suck well like that, and and
so it puts the right frame of mind back in.
But for everybody out there, whatever you're doing, you're you're
aspiring to be great. And in the days you take
off or you're unavailable to do Project X y Z
(20:28):
they decided, you know what, you got a lot on
your plate, let's give it to someone else. You're like, yeah,
I want us to succeed because obviously I want the
company to keep doing well. But damn it, he can't
do it as well as I can. And that was
Ben Roethlisberger one hundred percent. You feel that, and it's
exacerbated by the stage in which all this is set.
And so for Kenny Pickett, what else is he gonna do? Yeah,
(20:50):
what a jerk that guy was. No, he's gonna he's royalty,
and he's also gonna have his podcast whereby he's gonna
be picking apart every throw Canny Pickett makes as a
member of the Steelers until he's gone. So yeah, let's
stay in his good graces, tell him what a legend
he was. And then when I walk out the door,
(21:11):
I can do the eye roll and say the old
man doesn't know what he's talking about anymore, or whatever
the case may be. But yeah, you try to make nice,
you know.
Speaker 1 (21:19):
And it's good you brought that up because you know,
this is also what Ben Roethlisberger is doing. Ben Roethlisberger
is doing the passive aggressive. I would be a great analyst,
and I could make millions of dollars talking about the NFL. Right,
He's not someone who would be one of those athletes
(21:40):
who is done playing, wants to be on TV, have
some kind of broadcast interest, and puts his name out
there as his agent making phone calls. He's not that
kind of guy. He's not that Hey, Tom Brady's getting
paid thirty million dollars. You to talk about football. These
guys are getting paid. I'm Ben bleeping' Roethlisberger. Man, I'm
a big name. I want to be out there doing it.
(22:00):
But he's not that guy. He's not the guy that's
gonna go out and say because it's the passive aggressiveness.
Sometimes you get no, no, no, I want to do this,
but I want them to ask me. I don't. I'm
not gonna go out and do it. I want to
make it seem like, hey, I I I just you know,
I was doing nothing. I was sitting around and someone
just called me on the phone. How many of your
friends have had that you've had conversations with when something
(22:24):
really good has happened to them, and their their reaction
and the way they explain it to you is they
just called me. Really, they just called you out of
the blue, you know, for no reason. So and so,
just for no I gotta you know, we gotta do.
I've been a complete and total loss for subject X.
You know what I gotta do. I gotta call Jim
and I gotta say, Jim, here's a dump truck full
(22:45):
of money, or here's an opportunity you're never gonna get.
I I was sitting around and they made a phone call.
There's so many people I know in the business that
that's how they want to say it, which really what
they're doing is means they had their agents calling all
the time, all the time. How about this, how about this,
how about this? About this? But Roethlisberger is a guy
that doesn't have to do that. He wants to be asked.
(23:07):
So he's gonna do this podcast. He's gonna make headlines here.
He goes through that now and again, hey he's pretty outspoken.
Hey he makes headlines here. Hey, maybe we need to
reach out to him. And then it is legitimate because
then Roethlisberger can say, well, I was just a joint
doing my podcast. But now that NBC wants me or
CBS called rather, Hey, yeah, you know yeah, I don't mind.
(23:29):
You want to pay me ten million dollars a year
for a couple of Yeah, I'll come out and do
this and be a star, and I'll be critical of
players because if he's critical, yeah, if he's critical in
his hometown quarterback, well, that's how you make noise, right,
That's how you make news for yourself. That's how people think. Okay,
Roethlisberger is gonna be a good guy to do this
because every TV station that hires an analyst is always
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worried that they leave their fastball on the on the audition,
on the audition reel, like they come out and they
sit there and do an audition and go, wow, they
sound great. They're name dropping and talking about conversation with
these players. They're criticizing this guy. This guy's awesome. Let's
hire him. And he gets hired, and then when he
actually gets on TV after a week or two, he
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backs off saying things that are really incendiary or attention
grabbing because he doesn't want to get the text messages
from this teammates from people going what are you doing?
Why would you say this about me? Happens all the time.
So here's Roethlisberger saying, Hey, I'm not going after anything.
I'm just gonna make headlines with what I say on
my podcast. I'm gonna show you I'm a no holds
(24:32):
barred guy, and I want people to come and pursue me.
That's what he's trying to do right now. He sees
what everybody else is making, he sees what people are
getting paid to come up. I'm a better quarterback. I
talk better than Tony Romo. Oh, Romo doesn't sit there,
and Yelson calls Jim Nanzer's on, Jim, I gotta talk Jim, Jim, Jim,
I gotta say something, Jim, Jim, Jim. I'm bet Brady's
saying he's making thirty eight million dollars a year from Fox.
(24:53):
He says he's gonna wait a year. Hey, no, no, no,
I'm getting my name out there so they will call
me and then I can be the reluct analyst. Well,
I just kind of call it like I see it.
I'm the I'm an aw shucks guy. You know, I
didn't know I was going to have this career path. Meanwhile,
it's all I want is to be able to be
on TV and make big headlines talking about football. But
that's how he wants it to proceed. He wants that
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passive aggressive style to say, yes, I'm just showing you
what I can do, and oh, yeah, oh you want
to of course I'll go I'll fig of you. Oh
oh fifteen million a year, Yes, I'll come do that
for oh twenty million, yere, Yes, I'll come do that
for you. Yes, I'll do that. I was just sitting
around at home when someone called me.
Speaker 3 (25:31):
No. I think it's a brilliant strategy. I'm all for it,
and I think he's he'll handle it brilliantly here, just
like he did and as being the puppeteer of folks
in the Pittsburgh media for years related to injuries and
other things he wanted kind of sloughed off and into
the Pittsburgh atmosphere on radio and television. So yeah, he's
(25:55):
he's pretty good at it, and he's got a bit
of smart ass in. So we add that with a
little bit of the I'm willing to say what I
need to and be critical as long as he keeps
that second part could be moderately entertaining. And who knows,
now that he's part owner of the Raiders, is that
take Tom Brady out of rotation.
Speaker 1 (26:16):
He just can't do Raiders games or they have to
do every Raiders game. Hey, you gonna cut this guy? Yes,
I'm cutting this guy tomorrow. Oh wow, Okay, that's cool man.
Thanks Tom, I did appreciate it. We got more NFL
coming up in ninety seconds. Trust me, Ben Roethlisper, I'll
give you a bullprediction within eighteen months. Ben Roethlisberger is
hired by a large entity getting paid a lot of
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few minutes, and then the last couple of days have
been pretty big days and changes suddenly that the NFL
is Hey, you know, if everybody's paying attention to the
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Western Conference Eastern Conference Final. Let's slide in some unpopular
changes while while that's going on in May, Lebron, I
won't notice.
Speaker 3 (28:44):
Can you threaten to retire?
Speaker 1 (28:46):
Hey?
Speaker 3 (28:46):
Not only will people not pay attention to the Nuggets,
they won't pay attention to this either.
Speaker 1 (28:50):
Hey, Lebron, people really don't like this flexing Thursday night games.
We got another big one coming the next day. People
are gonna hate more, can you do?
Speaker 3 (28:57):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (28:58):
Awesome, thank you, Lebron. Appreciate that.
Speaker 3 (29:00):
I did get a Billy Flynn reference up on Twitter earlier,
which is pretty good. The old dazzle.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
Oh there you go. That's all you need. Just get
that razzle dazzle all you need.
Speaker 3 (29:10):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (29:10):
So we'll have more on that coming up in a
few minutes, because uh yeah, there's a big change in
the NFL today that nobody likes. Absolutely no, I'm not
one person outside of Roder Goodell who likes this and
that and that, and it's a it's a rule, and
it's happening because Roder Gondell wants it, and I get
the votes from the uh, from the owners I need,
(29:31):
so we're gonna have it. But nobody likes it. Now,
that's something nobody likes. Now we have something that everybody
likes because it's time to play. Up, it's time to play.
(29:53):
But up bump the Magic Johnson. You get a clap
like we do the open. Something must have happened. We
don't have the open and his clap, clap, clap, for
got rid of that. I'm getting I'm getting rid of
the men's open. I'm getting rid of the Bay, I'm
(30:15):
getting rid of the Magic Johnson Twitter game Open.
Speaker 5 (30:18):
I'm getting well, at least people know who magic is.
The beeheim One Harmon brought up a really valid point
that one's kind of going.
Speaker 1 (30:25):
People know who, people know who, more people know who.
There's millennials don't know who Magic Johnson is. They just magic.
He's an owner who does he own? Does magic? They
think magic? Wait? He owns the Lakers? No, No, he
owns a Dodger pieces a lot of stuff. Wait he
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doesn't own those teams. No, but he kind of does. Yes,
but all the time and not often, not all the time.
Sometimes he owns them, sometimes he doesn't. Sometimes he bounces
back and forth. I can't really tell you. But he
played basketball, yes, a long time ago. Yes, and he
was good.
Speaker 3 (31:00):
Yes, this is one of the greatest talk show hosts
we've ever had.
Speaker 1 (31:05):
When they say magic hour, I have you and direct
you to YouTube to see some of Magic.
Speaker 3 (31:10):
Johnson spinning the ball on his finger.
Speaker 1 (31:14):
Uh. But the Magic Johnson twitter game often imitated, never
do bad here. It is no more obvious or vanilla
tweeter than Magic Johnson. So we play the Magic Johnson
Twitter game. I give you the tweet because Magic Johnson
is tweeting up a storm about the NBA playoffs and
(31:34):
other things. So you tell me if it's a Magic
Johnson tweet or if it's made up entirely by me
playing tonight myself. Mike Harmon, Justin Frosburg, are you ready,
let's go.
Speaker 3 (31:45):
Let's cut it on.
Speaker 1 (31:48):
The Joker is changing the game of basketball right before
our very eyes, that Magic Johnson tweets.
Speaker 3 (31:56):
I'm gonna say no, Okay, Well.
Speaker 5 (31:59):
If you say no it's just me and you, then yes.
Speaker 3 (32:04):
There you go.
Speaker 1 (32:04):
Frostburg's borrowing from ty shirt. What are you saying, Mike,
I'm going to go the other way. The Joker is
changing the game of basketball right before our very eyes.
Speaker 3 (32:14):
That is.
Speaker 1 (32:17):
A Magic Johnson. I saw what gotch. You didn't think
he would say the joker. Would you think you would
say the joker? You thought he would say.
Speaker 3 (32:25):
But he's just very specific about and give him his
name recognition.
Speaker 5 (32:31):
And nothing like ty Shirt. I got it right.
Speaker 1 (32:36):
The big story tonight is Bobby Miller. We called him
up to face a powerful team, the division leading Atlanta Braves.
Is that a Magic Johnson tweet? The big story is
Bobby Miller. We called him up to today to face
a powerful team, the division leading Atlanta Braves. Is that
a magic Johnson tweet?
Speaker 3 (32:54):
Sure? Why not?
Speaker 5 (32:57):
I'm gonna say yes only because he you through in
division leading.
Speaker 1 (33:02):
But do you think Magic Johnson knows?
Speaker 5 (33:04):
Oh, nobody reads a box score like.
Speaker 3 (33:08):
That is very adept at pulling information out of a
box score.
Speaker 1 (33:12):
Bobby Miller, who came up tonight and out dueled Spencer Streyder,
one of the top pitchers in Major League Baseball, five innings,
four hits, one run, gets the win.
Speaker 3 (33:22):
That is.
Speaker 1 (33:25):
A magic Johnson tweet.
Speaker 5 (33:29):
Sorry nice, weas the Braves.
Speaker 1 (33:33):
I think you did. I think you did shocked. Congratulations
to Nikola Jokic for being named the Irvin Magic Johnson
Western Conference Finals MVP. Oh Yeah, is that a Magic
Johnson tweet?
Speaker 5 (33:48):
Did he give joke its stats?
Speaker 1 (33:53):
I'm reading you the tweet. You have to tell if
it's a tweet or not. Congratulated Ko on being named
the Irvin Magic Johnson in Western Conference Finals MVP.
Speaker 6 (34:02):
Yeah, I said no, and that's because yeah, Blank.
Speaker 1 (34:14):
Jo Wow, that's why blank jokics that is a Magic
Johnson tweet. I mean, come on, I love how I
love how he went third person there to win the
Urban Y Western Conference Finals.
Speaker 3 (34:33):
MVP.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
Geez, it's named after me.
Speaker 3 (34:35):
Oh, by the way, I'm kind of a big deal
he won the award named after me. Did you know
it's named after me? Not until this tweet you didn't, Oh, boy.
Speaker 1 (34:47):
In defeat last night Lebron James was tremendous, scoring thirty
points by the half and finishing with forty points, ten
rebounds and nine assists. Yeah, that sounds like that a
magic Johnson tweets.
Speaker 5 (34:58):
The hell of a lot of stats in there.
Speaker 1 (35:00):
You defeat Lebron James with tremendous scoring thirty points by
the half and finishing with forty points, ten rebounds and
nine assists.
Speaker 3 (35:06):
Didn't he have thirty one at the half though he
did have thirty one?
Speaker 5 (35:12):
Is Jason messing with us? He had thirty one at
the half?
Speaker 3 (35:16):
Yeah, yeah he did.
Speaker 5 (35:18):
I'm gonna say it is because Magic's wrong here.
Speaker 1 (35:23):
That's a double being right for Frocksburg.
Speaker 3 (35:25):
That is a tweets here, you go wear.
Speaker 1 (35:30):
Magic, Laker Nation, don't hang your heads. We had a
great season. Is that a Magic Johnson tweet? Laker Nation,
don't hang your heads. We had a great season.
Speaker 3 (35:45):
Yeah, it's so terrible that it could be. It's a terrible. Yeah,
it's it's a terrible sentiment too.
Speaker 5 (35:52):
No push kicked.
Speaker 3 (35:57):
No, that is not a magic Johnson good because I
heard that and saw that in my timelines from a
bunch of dopes all day, like you lost, you got swept.
There's no silver lining. It is.
Speaker 1 (36:20):
Not many people thought the Celtics would win, but they did.
Is that a magic Johnson tweet? Not? Many people thought
the Celtics would win, but they did.
Speaker 5 (36:31):
He hate the Celtics though he does, I'm playing them.
Not a tweet.
Speaker 3 (36:38):
I don't think it is either. That is.
Speaker 1 (36:44):
Not a magic john very good.
Speaker 3 (36:51):
Last one.
Speaker 1 (36:51):
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if it actually was a tweetybody Twitter and out out
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one thing I know, Mike Carman, I think you and
I are both after the same exact thing. Right after
the show is over tonight, right we have to go
watch ted Lasso, because wow, are they're all kind of
the way I see it trending right now. I'm like, Okay,
something big, something big is happening. I got I gotta
go watch it right away or I'm just gonna get
it ruined for me the next in the next year,
(01:13):
it's twelve to sixteen hours.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
It seem like this one either got released faster or
got into the public domain in terms of commentary and
spoilers a lot faster than any other episode this season.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
Yeah, because I feel like it should just be released now,
right right, like because now it's it's nine o'clock West
Coast midnight on the on the East Coast, and that's
when it should be released, Like, that's when we should
get ted Lasso, but instead it's it's all over. So
I see trending's ted Lasso ted Lasso spoilers. I'm like, okay, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
I gotta get away from it.
Speaker 4 (01:47):
No.
Speaker 5 (01:50):
Do you want me to spoil it for you guys
right now?
Speaker 1 (01:51):
No, I don't want you to spoil anything.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
Are you watching it now? Is that what you're saying.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
No, he's just gonna say, here's a spoiler, the Mets lose.
He's just gonna say something like.
Speaker 5 (01:59):
That, Oh, the Mets losing is not a spoilers lost.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
The Knicks lost, that's a spoiler.
Speaker 5 (02:06):
That's again science.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
Again, Like I'm slipping around. I go to the homepage
of Yahoo, and it's like, hey, five things we learn
in this episode, Like what do we do it?
Speaker 1 (02:15):
Yeah? Like all of a sudden, Yeah, well, suddenly the
decorum of streaming shows with Hey, we wait a little bit.
We also make sure we put spoilers involved. No, that's
out the window now. It doesn't matter. We're losing the
clickbait war. We're losing the click war. Put it right
out there soon as the show comes out. As soon
as your column is done, you send it to me.
We'll proof free to put it on there. We'll get
it on there so you can see it. That's exactly
(02:36):
how we do it now.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
Now I have one question though, based on the open
to this hour of the show, say you and I do?
I mean, how many more years is it with that
open that references the Beeheims before we have to put
a disclaimer to explain who the Beaheims are.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
Ooh, well, you know, you got to give Buddy Beeheim
a little bit of time. Maybe he works himself into
being a good player in the NBA. You never know.
Speaker 4 (03:00):
And you know.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
Syracuse has some run in the NCAA tournament. Adrian Autrey
gets run. They'll talk a lot about Jim Beheim. So no,
I think I think we keep that that little buddy,
we keep it for a little while longer, I think, buddy, yeah,
we keep it going. I mean I don't know much longer.
You know, let's see if Syracuse basketball starts out like
(03:22):
five and five, then we can get rid of it.
But I think it's gonna be a little more. I
think serious is gonna be a lot better this year.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
Okay, just you know, I was just wondering when we
hit the point where we're not thinking about them.
Speaker 5 (03:32):
Mike, I can delete it right now if you want
me to listen.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
We still we still run the Mike White Open. Come on, buddy,
we still we still run that. That's still it still exists.
Speaker 3 (03:41):
It's still still an NFL quarterback.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
He is. But you know it's it's it's now like
you know, a year and a half removed from that game.
Speaker 5 (03:48):
He gets the bangle, Mike, do you want it gone?
I can make it gone.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
No, no, no, no, no, it was more just a no.
Speaker 5 (03:55):
You bring up a valid point. I think we should
get rid of it.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
No, that's right, And I'll tell veto who does all
the sound work for us? Hey Frostburg is arbitrarily deleting
stuff that you create, and then you can talk to
Veto about it.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
And was about the random drops or clips that that
was bigger than something getting deleted from that.
Speaker 5 (04:17):
I'm glad we have that sound and delete it tonight.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
Okay, Yeah, just start deleting work. Other people do that.
That's a good job. That's a good job.
Speaker 5 (04:25):
Well, you brought up a valid point that that one
is outdated, Jason.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
No, you're right. Hey, you know what, make sure we
delete allbody.
Speaker 5 (04:30):
Cares about the Bay names anymore. Mike brought up a
valid point. I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
Okay, you can do that, But then how about you
make sure that highlights from like tonight don't get deleted
by tomorrow? How about you do that?
Speaker 5 (04:41):
Oh, nobody can do that. Jesus can do that.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
Do we have the Lebron play from last night? No,
it's gone, got deleted out of the system, the last
player regulation. Yeah, I got to lead it out of.
Speaker 5 (04:50):
The asking for miracles. I can't help you.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
We don't have that anymore. Where did it go?
Speaker 3 (04:55):
I don't know, can't find it a right great, didn't
you know Lebron's retired?
Speaker 1 (05:00):
What's the difference. I'll just talk about the play. That's
all that matters now. Speaking of Lebron, today was a
day that look, everybody woke up most likely and saw
the news that Lebron said in his postgame press conference
a night ago. I don't know what my future holds.
Maybe I come back next year, maybe not. Now he's
(05:20):
got two more years left, he's got ninety million dollars
coming his way. Is he really going to retire? No,
but he definitely went out of his way to talk
about it at the postgame press conference last night and
then to ESPN and to NBA on TNT. Oh yeah,
I don't know what I'm gonna do. I don't know
what I'm gonna do now. First of all, let me
just say this. You know, this is a team that
(05:42):
just had a season of incredible highs and incredible lows,
and they end on a big upswing. They make the
Western Conference Finals, they get swept out in four games,
and a lot of it is let's deal with what
just happened. Our season is over now, and he decides
to take the press conference to make it all about him. Hey, yeah,
I might not I'm back next year. I don't know.
Wait what and in case, oh, no, no, And it's
(06:04):
not something that just slipped out. It's not something and hey,
I didn't mean that to slip out. I said it
at the end. No, no, no. I talked about it
with ESPN. I talked about it with Chris Haynes and
the NBA on TNT.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
No.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
No, no. So that that's nice. That's a nice teammate
to decide, Hey, right after we get eliminated, I'm gonna
make this all about me. I might not come back
next year.
Speaker 3 (06:22):
Right.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
This is the reminder of where the Lakers were before
the trade deadline, where they were moving along the path
of how do we divorce ourselves from Lebron James?
Speaker 3 (06:33):
What happens?
Speaker 1 (06:33):
Because this is not getting better, it's not gonna end. Well,
what do we do? We're track, we got out from
Russell Westbrook, hooray, how do we get out from under this?
But the Lakers make the right moves of the trade deadline,
they get the right personnel in and they go on
a great run and then you forget everything that went on,
You forget everything that was Oh man, it's like, oh
things are great again. It's like when you go through
(06:55):
this big rough patch with with your significant other, and
you think, oh, man, we're gonna get divorced, or we're
gonna break up, or something's gonna happen, and you know,
you're kind of moving towards that of eventuality and who
knows when it's gonna be. And then you suddenly hit
an up swing. Hey we're getting along better.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
Now.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
Everything is great. I don't know what it is, but hey,
we're riding along well, thinking, hey, maybe we stay together.
I don't know, maybe we get engaged. And then oh no, no, no, no,
this is why, no, this is why we're gonna break up.
I get it, Okay, I can't be fooled by that again.
It's time to go break up. That's kind of where
I'm at with the Lakers and Lebron is that everything
was great. He was he was someone who fit himself in,
(07:34):
and we saw the Lakers are at their best when
he doesn't have to score thirty five forty points a game,
and the Lakers really had something going on, and that's awesome,
and then you get this stuff last night when he says, yeah,
I don't know if I'm coming back, and today the
Lakers said, yeah, we expect Lebron to come back. We
hope he comes back next year, but we're not sure.
If I'm the Lakers, I say, you know what, Broun,
(07:55):
you take your time. We're going forward as if we're
not gonna have you. They go out and get a star,
not a couple of players, not another shoot or not.
They got the shootings, They got hot Chamore, he's making shots.
He got Austin Reeves, he's making shots. They'll probably bring
both of them back. No, No, We're gonna go out
and get a star, whether it's Trey Young. There was
rumored today the Lakers might have interest in training for
him in the offseason. Whatever it is, go get a star.
(08:18):
Go get a star. And if when Lebron decides he
wants to come back, because he will want to come back,
then he'll fit in wherever he needs to fit in
because he can fit. He can play point guard, he
can be a big he can go and he can
do anything. Now he'll fit in with whatever you want
to do. But if I'm the Lakers, I call his
bluff and I go, you know what, We're sick and
tired of you holding up franchise hostage because that's what
(08:38):
he's done for a couple of years, and that's what
he's doing now for however long it's gonna go, which
is likely the entire summer.
Speaker 3 (08:44):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (08:45):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
You know what, I proceed like, we are going to
not have you, and we're gonna remake this team. We're
gonna go get Trey Young or somebody else orhoever we're
gonna go get. And this is how we're gonna do.
We're gonna get Damian Lillard, whatever we wanna do. What
We're gonna trade a D for Julius Ran whenever, we're
gonna we go and we get another star and bring
in someone who can be a star. And Lebron, if
you want to come back, then you come back in,
(09:07):
and he'll come back in at some point because he's
got no choice. But if he decides to walk away,
then the Lakers win again because they get to remake
the franchise and reload on the fly with maybe someone
who could be a really good fit because he's younger,
has more legs, can play more minutes, and the Lakers
don't have to worry about being tired all the time.
That's how I do. I call his bluff and I
(09:28):
say you want, we're gonna go proceed like you're not
coming back, and then when you decide, yeah, we'll fit
you back in. That's how I do it.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
Yeah, it's a curiosity of going just between the timeline,
going back to the beginning of the season, the philosophical
side of things from the Lakers front office that we'd heard,
you know, the hey, we're not doing anything. You're going
into the season with Russell Westbrook. You made this bed,
you have to lie in it, right, That was what
(09:54):
we heard. They get off to this horrendous start, a
d miss his time, Lebron misses time, They make the
trade and totally redo this roster. We campaigned for Polenka's
Executive of the Year, all of those fun things as
you go, and the formula that you described of how
the Lakers were able to do a lot of damage
(10:16):
down the stretch was getting other people involved, finding plays
and playmakers, much like he did inexplicably in that final
minute of holding the ball into the final five seconds
of the shot clock and then going to trigger it
to shrewder over to Reeves gets deflected, he takes the
(10:36):
bad shot. We chronicled it all away last night, but
the brilliance of the first half. You know, we raised
our hand yesterday, we do it again here. Of it
was magnificent to watch, but it was also the I'm
going down with a huge stat line so nobody can
blame me, which was the antithesis of how they tried
(10:57):
to run the game and run the offense and get
everybody involved early in the in the past. Right, and
now you've got a lot of guys standing around, which
is what they did down the stretch when they had
a lead and should have been able to finish up
fifteen at halftime. So now, yeah, you go and you
figure out what the next iteration of this squad is
(11:18):
around him? All right, ads back, you want to keep
the core together, seeing what the cost is there and
how much flexibility you have if you do keep these
guys around. Is Kyrie irving someone that behind the scenes
they're making the big push for because he seems to
be present, He's he's freaking Waldo At this point in
(11:39):
the crowd, Hey, where's Kyrie today? There is third row?
See if he's sitting just behind where you know that
guy is, you know the guy with the big hat, Yeah,
that guy? And over here now he's on baseline like
he's just kind of moving around. And I know, Frostberg,
you want no part of this, but it may be
spoken into existence, does it. I don't really want to
(12:00):
get rid of Trey Young. No, No, they don't. They've
got a squad that could be moderately interesting going forward
if everybody's healthy and the young guys continue to develop.
But I'd look at this as Lebron will wait as
long as he can to make a decision. Folks are like, wow,
it'll happen before the drastic Why you don't have a
(12:22):
first round draft pick? It doesn't matter. And most of
the teams that are being rumored in all this, what
are you getting? What are you gonna be able to
go in package to move out? You don't have a
lot of discernible assets that are yours unless you're orchestrating
some of the greatest sign and trade deals of all time.
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Tire rack dot Com Studio. Celtics Beat to Heat one
sixteen ninety nine. We're getting Game five Yay. We'll left
more on that coming up in a few minutes. But
a couple big things out of the NFL today and
the first one is that. Look. Kenny Pickett has said
there are no hard feelings toward Ben Roethlisberger after what
(15:16):
was said on Roethlisberger's podcast A day ago. Roethlisberger did
an interview with Kenny Pickett, had him on and said, listen,
I'm gonna get in a lot of trouble for this.
But in the beginning of last year, I was rooting
against you.
Speaker 3 (15:28):
Whoa, whoa, whoa.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
And Roethlisberger said, you know, it's you know, it's it's
part of just going through my thought process of you know,
you're gonna replace me, and do I really want you
to succeed? Then I found myself rooting for you and
it was great. And now they consider each other friends
and they talk and they text all the time. Kenny
Pickett came back today saying, well, what am I gonna
(15:51):
say after that? Yeah, he says he's cool. Kenny Pickett says,
I have no hard feelings toward Ben Roethlisberger. This is
where Isaac, when you think I'm gonna is this the
greatest thing in the world for Ben Roethlisberger to say that, Hey,
I was rooting against you. Wait, what what do you
mean You're rooting against you retired. You retired, You're going
(16:12):
to the Hall of Fame, you won two Super Bowls,
and you're jealous of Kenny Pickett getting attention In a word, yeah,
because all great athletes and you have to have this
to be great. You have to have a little bit
to a lot of this to be great. Every single
great athlete is selfish. They're selfish to the point not
(16:36):
where I want it to be all about me. I
take twenty five shots a game. I call plays differently
in the huddle, and I audible from a handoff to
a pass play. They're all selfish in that I know
I'm the best player out here. I'm the best thing
for this team. Every great athlete has that sense of selfishness.
(16:56):
I want the ball. I'm the best, and sometimes it
man if itself in a game. But this is here
Roethlisberger talking about the belief he has in himself and going, Okay,
now you think you can do it without me, And
that's a thing, you know. I don't want to see
some another team do it without me. I don't want
to see that. I want it to be about me.
I'm a little I'm selfish in that way. Every single
(17:19):
athlete has that trait. I am not surprised at this.
I recognize this. I get it. You need to be
a little bit too, a lot selfish. I felt that
way when I played sports, and just in rec leagues,
when I played softball and hockey, I didn't want our
team to win if I didn't have a big game.
I mean, it's not like I'm not saying I wanted
us to lose, but I felt worse if we won
(17:41):
a game. I was happy we won, but I felt
bad because I wanted to play well and I wanted
to play well and help the team win, and if
I didn't do that, I was mad. Now, luckily, because
you know, the kid is pretty talented, I didn't have
many games where I wasn't good enough, I didn't help
us win in hockey or in softball. I didn't have
many games like that, but I still felt that way.
I know it's selfish, but it's because I wanted to
(18:03):
play well and I want to do it, and if
I didn't, I was mad. I was always happy that
we won, and you know, I was happy with the
other guys played well. I was happy to go out
for beers after the game. All that but in the end,
I walk away going, man, I had a crappy game.
I had a crappy game. I can't have a game
like that again. Not that many of those games, because
I was really good, but I felt that way. And
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every athlete at every level that succeeds and gets to
a certain point feels that way. So I completely understand
Roethlisberger saying what he said about Kenny Picken White and
I was rooting against you. I understand exactly why he
was saying. I was not rooting for you beginning of
last year.
Speaker 3 (18:41):
No, Look, he wasn't convinced he was supposed to retire either.
He went. He went unwillingly into the good night and retirement.
Let's not kid ourselves in that process as well. Finally
got enough intel. Yeah you can't play anymore, buddy, but
I'm ready. I can do it. I got more year.
(19:01):
But the larger thing is, Look, we talk about it
a lot, and we bring everybody in wherever you're listening,
however you're listening, the iHeartRadio app, the download, the podcast,
all of those things. We appreciate you and wrap our
arms around you. But everybody in their work lives in
their relationships and everything. You aspire to be as great
(19:24):
as you can be, right, and then if it doesn't
work out the relationship or you move on from a job,
so you go to greener pastures. You're going to leave.
You want the people behind you to struggle, right, You
want it to be Wow, that guy was good, that
guy was great. She was awesome and could command a meeting,
or or really made sure we were set up for
(19:46):
success quarter after quarter, whatever the case may be. It
doesn't have to just be athletics, man, it is in everything.
There's that I make this go around. I mean, how
many times do we joke in a given week? And man,
I've been carrying your ass for how long? You know?
And it goes back and forth, and then occasionally, you know,
Tisher will throw in some random drop mark in his
(20:08):
stead today to make fun of us, or Frostburg will
come in with a one liner to just slap up
up outside the head suck well like that, and and
so it puts the right frame of mind back in.
But for everybody out there, whatever you're doing, you're you're
aspiring to be great. And in the days you take
off or you're unavailable to do Project X y Z
(20:28):
they decided, you know what, you got a lot on
your plate, let's give it to someone else. You're like, yeah,
I want us to succeed because obviously I want the
company to keep doing well. But damn it, he can't
do it as well as I can. And that was
Ben Roethlisberger one hundred percent. You feel that, and it's
exacerbated by the stage in which all this is set.
And so for Kenny Pickett, what else is he gonna do? Yeah,
(20:50):
what a jerk that guy was. No, he's gonna he's royalty,
and he's also gonna have his podcast whereby he's gonna
be picking apart every throw Canny Pickett makes as a
member of the Steelers until he's gone. So yeah, let's
stay in his good graces, tell him what a legend
he was. And then when I walk out the door,
(21:11):
I can do the eye roll and say the old
man doesn't know what he's talking about anymore, or whatever
the case may be. But yeah, you try to make nice,
you know.
Speaker 1 (21:19):
And it's good you brought that up because you know,
this is also what Ben Roethlisberger is doing. Ben Roethlisberger
is doing the passive aggressive. I would be a great analyst,
and I could make millions of dollars talking about the NFL. Right,
He's not someone who would be one of those athletes
(21:40):
who is done playing, wants to be on TV, have
some kind of broadcast interest, and puts his name out
there as his agent making phone calls. He's not that
kind of guy. He's not that Hey, Tom Brady's getting
paid thirty million dollars. You to talk about football. These
guys are getting paid. I'm Ben bleeping' Roethlisberger. Man, I'm
a big name. I want to be out there doing it.
(22:00):
But he's not that guy. He's not the guy that's
gonna go out and say because it's the passive aggressiveness.
Sometimes you get no, no, no, I want to do this,
but I want them to ask me. I don't. I'm
not gonna go out and do it. I want to
make it seem like, hey, I I I just you know,
I was doing nothing. I was sitting around and someone
just called me on the phone. How many of your
friends have had that you've had conversations with when something
(22:24):
really good has happened to them, and their their reaction
and the way they explain it to you is they
just called me. Really, they just called you out of
the blue, you know, for no reason. So and so,
just for no I gotta you know, we gotta do.
I've been a complete and total loss for subject X.
You know what I gotta do. I gotta call Jim
and I gotta say, Jim, here's a dump truck full
(22:45):
of money, or here's an opportunity you're never gonna get.
I I was sitting around and they made a phone call.
There's so many people I know in the business that
that's how they want to say it, which really what
they're doing is means they had their agents calling all
the time, all the time. How about this, how about this,
how about this? About this? But Roethlisberger is a guy
that doesn't have to do that. He wants to be asked.
(23:07):
So he's gonna do this podcast. He's gonna make headlines here.
He goes through that now and again, hey he's pretty outspoken.
Hey he makes headlines here. Hey, maybe we need to
reach out to him. And then it is legitimate because
then Roethlisberger can say, well, I was just a joint
doing my podcast. But now that NBC wants me or
CBS called rather, Hey, yeah, you know yeah, I don't mind.
(23:29):
You want to pay me ten million dollars a year
for a couple of Yeah, I'll come out and do
this and be a star, and I'll be critical of
players because if he's critical, yeah, if he's critical in
his hometown quarterback, well, that's how you make noise, right,
That's how you make news for yourself. That's how people think. Okay,
Roethlisberger is gonna be a good guy to do this
because every TV station that hires an analyst is always
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worried that they leave their fastball on the on the audition,
on the audition reel, like they come out and they
sit there and do an audition and go, wow, they
sound great. They're name dropping and talking about conversation with
these players. They're criticizing this guy. This guy's awesome. Let's
hire him. And he gets hired, and then when he
actually gets on TV after a week or two, he
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backs off saying things that are really incendiary or attention
grabbing because he doesn't want to get the text messages
from this teammates from people going what are you doing?
Why would you say this about me? Happens all the time.
So here's Roethlisberger saying, Hey, I'm not going after anything.
I'm just gonna make headlines with what I say on
my podcast. I'm gonna show you I'm a no holds
(24:32):
barred guy, and I want people to come and pursue me.
That's what he's trying to do right now. He sees
what everybody else is making, he sees what people are
getting paid to come up. I'm a better quarterback. I
talk better than Tony Romo. Oh, Romo doesn't sit there,
and Yelson calls Jim Nanzer's on, Jim, I gotta talk Jim, Jim, Jim,
I gotta say something, Jim, Jim, Jim. I'm bet Brady's
saying he's making thirty eight million dollars a year from Fox.
(24:53):
He says he's gonna wait a year. Hey, no, no, no,
I'm getting my name out there so they will call
me and then I can be the reluct analyst. Well,
I just kind of call it like I see it.
I'm the I'm an aw shucks guy. You know, I
didn't know I was going to have this career path. Meanwhile,
it's all I want is to be able to be
on TV and make big headlines talking about football. But
that's how he wants it to proceed. He wants that
(25:14):
passive aggressive style to say, yes, I'm just showing you
what I can do, and oh, yeah, oh you want
to of course I'll go I'll fig of you. Oh
oh fifteen million a year, Yes, I'll come do that
for oh twenty million, yere, Yes, I'll come do that
for you. Yes, I'll do that. I was just sitting
around at home when someone called me.
Speaker 3 (25:31):
No. I think it's a brilliant strategy. I'm all for it,
and I think he's he'll handle it brilliantly here, just
like he did and as being the puppeteer of folks
in the Pittsburgh media for years related to injuries and
other things he wanted kind of sloughed off and into
the Pittsburgh atmosphere on radio and television. So yeah, he's
(25:55):
he's pretty good at it, and he's got a bit
of smart ass in. So we add that with a
little bit of the I'm willing to say what I
need to and be critical as long as he keeps
that second part could be moderately entertaining. And who knows,
now that he's part owner of the Raiders, is that
take Tom Brady out of rotation.
Speaker 1 (26:16):
He just can't do Raiders games or they have to
do every Raiders game. Hey, you gonna cut this guy? Yes,
I'm cutting this guy tomorrow. Oh wow, Okay, that's cool man.
Thanks Tom, I did appreciate it. We got more NFL
coming up in ninety seconds. Trust me, Ben Roethlisper, I'll
give you a bullprediction within eighteen months. Ben Roethlisberger is
hired by a large entity getting paid a lot of
(26:38):
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Fox Sports Radio. The Jason Smith Show with my best
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Com studios. We got more NFL coming up in a
few minutes, and then the last couple of days have
been pretty big days and changes suddenly that the NFL
is Hey, you know, if everybody's paying attention to the
(28:36):
Western Conference Eastern Conference Final. Let's slide in some unpopular
changes while while that's going on in May, Lebron, I
won't notice.
Speaker 3 (28:44):
Can you threaten to retire?
Speaker 1 (28:46):
Hey?
Speaker 3 (28:46):
Not only will people not pay attention to the Nuggets,
they won't pay attention to this either.
Speaker 1 (28:50):
Hey, Lebron, people really don't like this flexing Thursday night games.
We got another big one coming the next day. People
are gonna hate more, can you do?
Speaker 3 (28:57):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (28:58):
Awesome, thank you, Lebron. Appreciate that.
Speaker 3 (29:00):
I did get a Billy Flynn reference up on Twitter earlier,
which is pretty good. The old dazzle.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
Oh there you go. That's all you need. Just get
that razzle dazzle all you need.
Speaker 3 (29:10):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (29:10):
So we'll have more on that coming up in a
few minutes, because uh yeah, there's a big change in
the NFL today that nobody likes. Absolutely no, I'm not
one person outside of Roder Goodell who likes this and
that and that, and it's a it's a rule, and
it's happening because Roder Gondell wants it, and I get
the votes from the uh, from the owners I need,
(29:31):
so we're gonna have it. But nobody likes it. Now,
that's something nobody likes. Now we have something that everybody
likes because it's time to play. Up, it's time to play.
(29:53):
But up bump the Magic Johnson. You get a clap
like we do the open. Something must have happened. We
don't have the open and his clap, clap, clap, for
got rid of that. I'm getting I'm getting rid of
the men's open. I'm getting rid of the Bay, I'm
(30:15):
getting rid of the Magic Johnson Twitter game Open.
Speaker 5 (30:18):
I'm getting well, at least people know who magic is.
The beeheim One Harmon brought up a really valid point
that one's kind of going.
Speaker 1 (30:25):
People know who, people know who, more people know who.
There's millennials don't know who Magic Johnson is. They just magic.
He's an owner who does he own? Does magic? They
think magic? Wait? He owns the Lakers? No, No, he
owns a Dodger pieces a lot of stuff. Wait he
(30:45):
doesn't own those teams. No, but he kind of does. Yes,
but all the time and not often, not all the time.
Sometimes he owns them, sometimes he doesn't. Sometimes he bounces
back and forth. I can't really tell you. But he
played basketball, yes, a long time ago. Yes, and he
was good.
Speaker 3 (31:00):
Yes, this is one of the greatest talk show hosts
we've ever had.
Speaker 1 (31:05):
When they say magic hour, I have you and direct
you to YouTube to see some of Magic.
Speaker 3 (31:10):
Johnson spinning the ball on his finger.
Speaker 1 (31:14):
Uh. But the Magic Johnson twitter game often imitated, never
do bad here. It is no more obvious or vanilla
tweeter than Magic Johnson. So we play the Magic Johnson
Twitter game. I give you the tweet because Magic Johnson
is tweeting up a storm about the NBA playoffs and
(31:34):
other things. So you tell me if it's a Magic
Johnson tweet or if it's made up entirely by me
playing tonight myself. Mike Harmon, Justin Frosburg, are you ready,
let's go.
Speaker 3 (31:45):
Let's cut it on.
Speaker 1 (31:48):
The Joker is changing the game of basketball right before
our very eyes, that Magic Johnson tweets.
Speaker 3 (31:56):
I'm gonna say no, Okay, Well.
Speaker 5 (31:59):
If you say no it's just me and you, then yes.
Speaker 3 (32:04):
There you go.
Speaker 1 (32:04):
Frostburg's borrowing from ty shirt. What are you saying, Mike,
I'm going to go the other way. The Joker is
changing the game of basketball right before our very eyes.
Speaker 3 (32:14):
That is.
Speaker 1 (32:17):
A Magic Johnson. I saw what gotch. You didn't think
he would say the joker. Would you think you would
say the joker? You thought he would say.
Speaker 3 (32:25):
But he's just very specific about and give him his
name recognition.
Speaker 5 (32:31):
And nothing like ty Shirt. I got it right.
Speaker 1 (32:36):
The big story tonight is Bobby Miller. We called him
up to face a powerful team, the division leading Atlanta Braves.
Is that a Magic Johnson tweet? The big story is
Bobby Miller. We called him up to today to face
a powerful team, the division leading Atlanta Braves. Is that
a magic Johnson tweet?
Speaker 3 (32:54):
Sure? Why not?
Speaker 5 (32:57):
I'm gonna say yes only because he you through in
division leading.
Speaker 1 (33:02):
But do you think Magic Johnson knows?
Speaker 5 (33:04):
Oh, nobody reads a box score like.
Speaker 3 (33:08):
That is very adept at pulling information out of a
box score.
Speaker 1 (33:12):
Bobby Miller, who came up tonight and out dueled Spencer Streyder,
one of the top pitchers in Major League Baseball, five innings,
four hits, one run, gets the win.
Speaker 3 (33:22):
That is.
Speaker 1 (33:25):
A magic Johnson tweet.
Speaker 5 (33:29):
Sorry nice, weas the Braves.
Speaker 1 (33:33):
I think you did. I think you did shocked. Congratulations
to Nikola Jokic for being named the Irvin Magic Johnson
Western Conference Finals MVP. Oh Yeah, is that a Magic
Johnson tweet?
Speaker 5 (33:48):
Did he give joke its stats?
Speaker 1 (33:53):
I'm reading you the tweet. You have to tell if
it's a tweet or not. Congratulated Ko on being named
the Irvin Magic Johnson in Western Conference Finals MVP.
Speaker 6 (34:02):
Yeah, I said no, and that's because yeah, Blank.
Speaker 1 (34:14):
Jo Wow, that's why blank jokics that is a Magic
Johnson tweet. I mean, come on, I love how I
love how he went third person there to win the
Urban Y Western Conference Finals.
Speaker 3 (34:33):
MVP.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
Geez, it's named after me.
Speaker 3 (34:35):
Oh, by the way, I'm kind of a big deal
he won the award named after me. Did you know
it's named after me? Not until this tweet you didn't, Oh, boy.
Speaker 1 (34:47):
In defeat last night Lebron James was tremendous, scoring thirty
points by the half and finishing with forty points, ten
rebounds and nine assists. Yeah, that sounds like that a
magic Johnson tweets.
Speaker 5 (34:58):
The hell of a lot of stats in there.
Speaker 1 (35:00):
You defeat Lebron James with tremendous scoring thirty points by
the half and finishing with forty points, ten rebounds and
nine assists.
Speaker 3 (35:06):
Didn't he have thirty one at the half though he
did have thirty one?
Speaker 5 (35:12):
Is Jason messing with us? He had thirty one at
the half?
Speaker 3 (35:16):
Yeah, yeah he did.
Speaker 5 (35:18):
I'm gonna say it is because Magic's wrong here.
Speaker 1 (35:23):
That's a double being right for Frocksburg.
Speaker 3 (35:25):
That is a tweets here, you go wear.
Speaker 1 (35:30):
Magic, Laker Nation, don't hang your heads. We had a
great season. Is that a Magic Johnson tweet? Laker Nation,
don't hang your heads. We had a great season.
Speaker 3 (35:45):
Yeah, it's so terrible that it could be. It's a terrible. Yeah,
it's it's a terrible sentiment too.
Speaker 5 (35:52):
No push kicked.
Speaker 3 (35:57):
No, that is not a magic Johnson good because I
heard that and saw that in my timelines from a
bunch of dopes all day, like you lost, you got swept.
There's no silver lining. It is.
Speaker 1 (36:20):
Not many people thought the Celtics would win, but they did.
Is that a magic Johnson tweet? Not? Many people thought
the Celtics would win, but they did.
Speaker 5 (36:31):
He hate the Celtics though he does, I'm playing them.
Not a tweet.
Speaker 3 (36:38):
I don't think it is either. That is.
Speaker 1 (36:44):
Not a magic john very good.
Speaker 3 (36:51):
Last one.
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