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March 8, 2025 41 mins

Mike and Arnie (in for Jason) open Hour 3 taking a look at the top of the NFL draft... Who are the top prospects? What are the deepest positions? They go pick-by-pick through Charles Davis' most recent mock draft, examining each of the top picks and giving their own thoughts. NBA insider Marc Stein joins the show to hit on all of the biggest storylines from around the Association. 

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Speaker 3 (00:29):
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Speaker 4 (01:18):
By the way, have you made up your mind about
whether because I know we have to change the clocks
tomorrow night, have you made up your mind whether you
want to be on one side or the other, you
want to keep changing or you don't really care one
way or the other.

Speaker 3 (01:29):
I don't care. Yeah, I like all my digital clocks.
Do it automatically?

Speaker 4 (01:35):
No, But I like when it gets you know, lighter
or darker later in the day.

Speaker 3 (01:40):
So okay, yeah, no, I'm with that. I mean, look,
I'm driving to work in the evenings right to come
into the Fox Sports radio studios. So generally speaking, and
I don't mean any of you in particular, as it
gets dark, people drive like dopes. They also leave work
earlier because they don't want to drive in the dark,

(02:02):
you know, with people who are dopes, which means my
traffic day to day, like today was a one of those.
I had a car in the shop and they couldn't
get it done early enough. So it's one of those.
All right, let's uh the remote tire rack car that
you have a car that I haven't had the twenty seventeen.

Speaker 4 (02:20):
For repairs in like a decade.

Speaker 3 (02:23):
Well in twenty seventeen, and I've put one hundred and
forty thousand miles on it. No.

Speaker 4 (02:26):
No, when my car gets like sixty thousand, they're gone. Man,
that's it.

Speaker 3 (02:30):
Yeah. No, Look, I'm gonna leave that thing on the
side of the road and figuratively shoot it. Don't worry.
I will not. Just you know, I will not discharge
a firearm to take out the car that.

Speaker 4 (02:42):
Got Wow, that's a lot of miles, man.

Speaker 3 (02:44):
Well, soccer tournaments, right, daughters league has teams down in
San Diego or out in Arizona.

Speaker 4 (02:51):
I've had my fourteen months that I have six thousand
miles on it.

Speaker 3 (02:55):
Well, I mean, look, if you wan't walk outside to
go pick up the dog stuff, you sure as hell
not driving anything.

Speaker 4 (03:02):
I'm not driving too much out of here D's.

Speaker 3 (03:05):
And if you listen to Artie's Weekend show alongside Chris Plank,
he'll tell you all the things he makes his wife do.

Speaker 4 (03:10):
Yes exactly, which.

Speaker 3 (03:12):
Means you ain't driving. You're except your unless you're looking
to get a jump shot off. I don't know how
much you do.

Speaker 4 (03:19):
I don't. I don't do a lot of drive may go.
Like I said, I make it out of New York
to go see the Knicks play in about three weeks
from now. But other than that, and I'm going down
the Connecticut later on in the summer to go see
Jerry Seinfeld. Are you not about that? Yeah, I'm pumped
up to see that too.

Speaker 3 (03:34):
There you go. Well, good for you. I mean, are
you gonna go see the Knicks if Brunton's not there? Yeah,
I think you pay for really good tickets so you can.
I'm gonna do what.

Speaker 4 (03:44):
You guys do and pretend like I'm actually covering something,
and I'll bring a laptop with me and pretend I'm
doing something and get.

Speaker 3 (03:51):
Free bring a friend with you to photograph what you're.

Speaker 4 (03:53):
Doing a.

Speaker 3 (03:57):
Laptop.

Speaker 4 (03:58):
Yes, I'm working, everybody, I'm doing something, So please give
me the tickets for free.

Speaker 3 (04:03):
See, I gotta dig that. No, good for you. You know,
it's been a while to get up there to be
a man of the people.

Speaker 4 (04:09):
Exactly, got to go down to New York City every
once in a while.

Speaker 3 (04:12):
Well, I think people would appreciate the man on the
street from Artie Spam.

Speaker 4 (04:16):
What's the last time you were in the East Coast.
You're afraid of the East Coast am.

Speaker 3 (04:20):
I afraid of the East Coast?

Speaker 4 (04:22):
You've been in that life is so long?

Speaker 3 (04:24):
Well, part of it is having time, right, Like most
of my would be vacation is taken up by whatever
the kids have going on, like travel, soccer rules my life,
it does. You know, both girls are at the point
where we're starting to look at school. So next week,
actually I'm on the road to Pittsburgh. Is that? Okay?

Speaker 4 (04:43):
Oh my goodness, there you go? How about that? Huh?

Speaker 3 (04:46):
So she's gonna go to uh workout and pit around.
That's school, not at pitt.

Speaker 4 (04:53):
Oh you just said Pittsburgh, right.

Speaker 3 (04:56):
Well, a little larger Pittsburgh area, but it's it's a
visit to Carnegie Mill.

Speaker 4 (05:00):
Oh that's a real good school. How about that.

Speaker 3 (05:03):
She's got her mom's brains. What can I say?

Speaker 4 (05:05):
There you go?

Speaker 3 (05:05):
H and my gift of gab. Fortunately, so it all
works out and you know, my powerful legs. I showed
the guys the video of the cornerkick that she put
in today. So feeling all chesty, a little emotional, I
mean because and you didn't go to a good school either,
so good for her terrible school.

Speaker 4 (05:24):
Yeah, you went to a bad school.

Speaker 3 (05:25):
You didn't study yeah, Northwestern, followed by Santa Clara. You
for that NBA Northwestern?

Speaker 4 (05:31):
Well, you know, is that a junior college ors that
four years? I should?

Speaker 5 (05:33):
You know?

Speaker 3 (05:34):
What's upon a time I had tried to explain to
people that I wasn't in Washington when I was applying
for jobs out here in California when we first moved
out here at the back end of the time. I'm
not kidding. Stop it, I am not kidding at all.
Is that Washington? No, no, no, Chicago got a big deal.
But that's okay, it's not about me. It's not about me. Look,

(05:57):
there's no chance in hell my application would be in
anything other than Kindling at this point. If I were
to apply with the grades and scores, I I'm.

Speaker 4 (06:05):
Sure we got very lucky back then, and they were
taking anybody in the school.

Speaker 3 (06:09):
I don't know if it's that I don't want to
go that far.

Speaker 2 (06:12):
I just say it.

Speaker 3 (06:13):
I might have set my sights a little bit lower,
But if I knew the world at large that I am,
maybe I would have expanded the horizons. But it served
me well, because you know what, I'm here with you. Yes,
you're talking and evangelizing here on the vast Fox Sports
Radio network. As we're thinking about quarterbacks the number one pick.
I was wondering aloud, and I asked you this question.

(06:35):
Did the Titans show their hand by releasing Landry today?

Speaker 4 (06:39):
In what way?

Speaker 3 (06:39):
Though? You mean?

Speaker 4 (06:40):
So, which way they're going to go in the Drafty?

Speaker 3 (06:41):
Were they're going to go in the draft?

Speaker 5 (06:43):
Hey?

Speaker 3 (06:43):
It's one for one because right now if you go
to the betting odds, they are tied or were the
last I looked with the Giants as the team most
like today actually draft at the number one slot. How
about that?

Speaker 4 (06:56):
They're you know, if I'm them, I'm going to trade
on down. I don't think does anybody really that I
want to take it? A high pick there that's worth it?
So and I think maybe I could probably get a
bunch in return if somebody wants to take a Travis
Hunter or take a flyer on one of the two quarterbacks,
or maybe even trade up for Jackson Dart. So I'll
trade on down to make my team better because I

(07:18):
have so much I need. One pick is not going
to go and make it finish up there for me.
I need to get a bunch of picks there.

Speaker 3 (07:25):
Yeah, I think it's as we sit here, you know
it's only Mark seven, plenty of time in the silly
season in rumor, conjecture, speculation of it all, Arnie of
you know where this goes? How many trades could go
out there? You got Charles Davis. His mock draft looks
like no other. Is that he's got quarterbacks going one, two, three,
with Jackson Dark coming all the way up to number three.

Speaker 4 (07:46):
Wow, that's crazy. So is that because of abdul Carter's injury?
Does he believe? Because at first they said he was
gonna have surgery, and then of course they're like no, no, no, no,
you're supposed to say that after he gets drafted. So
you know now it's like, no, no, he doesn't need surgery.
But who knows what the next report is gonna be.
Have to get drafted. But I can't take him one,

(08:06):
two or three or even in the top five with
that hanging over my head? What are you crazy? Well,
I think something like that.

Speaker 3 (08:13):
But that's just the right. It's depending how many doctors
you go to the old adages, you'll find one that
agrees with me.

Speaker 4 (08:19):
Right, That's why, that's why, that's why I'm going back
to what I just told you I'm trading on down.
Let somebody else take a shot at Carter. Let somebody
else take the two quarterbacks Intraduur and Ward and see
what happens there. Matter of fact, if you want me to,
let if I'm going to trade down to like five
or six or seven Gent, the running back out of
Boise State, maybe I'll take a look at him. I

(08:42):
like him a lot. Maybe I take a wide receiver,
but I trade on down. I'm not worried about you
know some of those upper tier guys that you know,
those two quarterbacks in Travis Hunter.

Speaker 3 (08:53):
Well that's the big question in this draft, right, do
you have that plug and play quarterback that comes in
and you say he's an all world The consensus is no.
But we know the way the world works in the
NFL is that quarterbacks are going to gravitate back into
the first round. Last year, this time we were having
a lot of debates about that second class of quarterbacks.

(09:14):
Guess what they all got drafted pretty early, right, big
surprises on the board. When Atlanta goes and grabs Pannix
and you know bo Nicks, it seemed like a perfect
fit for Sean Payton, and eventually it got there after
a month. I think they were you know, there were
plenty of sideline spots like they were going to choke
each other out wrestling style. But you know, you've got

(09:35):
a ton of players in depth at a number of positions,
your edge rushers, You've got some running backs that are
making some noise, right Omariah Hampton out of North Carolinas,
a guy that's gotten some notices alongside genty. But if
you're in, if you're telling.

Speaker 4 (09:49):
Me the top three Pixar quarterbacks.

Speaker 3 (09:53):
I'm just saying I would not be shocked, right it
Just given the the need for that position.

Speaker 4 (09:59):
Then look, the Raiders get themselves not only a new quarterback.
They can get gent at number six and have him
as they're running back, and boy, they're really turning around
their team. Then you really got to like word they're
doing at this position. The Patriots at number four, they're
not taking a quarterback, right, I don't think they're taking
a running back with Stevenson. So maybe they trade on

(10:21):
down because they have so many more needs than what
they could take at number four. So maybe they're the
team that allows other teams to trade on up and
see where they go from there.

Speaker 3 (10:32):
Yeah, citing Charles Davis's draft. Old friend of mine used
to do a lot of spots with us here on
the network. He has Shador going number one, cam Ward
number two, Jackson Dart third, a dual Carter going to
the Patriots. Mike Grabel takes him there, just an edge
rusher because look back at what was.

Speaker 4 (10:54):
Good good value having it? Yeah, good value at number
four with he could have been the number one overall
pick at that place.

Speaker 3 (10:59):
Yeah. A month and a half ago, you had the
Titans GM saying well, we won't pass on a generational player,
and I think a lot of people presumed to Abdual
Carter was that guy. Now, depending on your school of thought,
maybe you went down the Travis Hunter road. I'm still
trying to figure out where I sit when it comes
to Travis Hunter long term, Right, he's gonna go in

(11:19):
as a cornerback, what he wants to play, wide receiver,
all of those things we talk about, strength to schedule
and all of those things in terms of people he
dominated on either side of the ball at times. And
how does that translate going forward? The answers, I don't know.
I'm here.

Speaker 4 (11:37):
He could fall to the Raiders. I mean, if the
first three picks are quarterbacks and you're tell me that
Carter's gonna be going to the Patriots at number four,
well that just leaves one more what Jacksonville.

Speaker 3 (11:48):
Well Jack Rao, who need everything right? Well, he just
purged a lot of stuff, right, Kirk's gone.

Speaker 4 (11:55):
You have you could train up one spot too if
you're the Raiders, if you really want to get him that.

Speaker 3 (12:00):
He really wanted to. Yeah, in his mock, he's got
Mason Graham out of Michigan, the defensive tackle going there.
So it's him and Christian Wilkins and suddenly you have
alongside Crosby a very formidable front try to navigate the west. Wow.
And that goes to the Jets, and this is where
we get Ian in real quick. We got a break

(12:21):
in a sect for mark Stein to join his talk
some NBA all right, yeah, some NBA fun. Sorry, the
brain is just moving too fast. He's got Will Campbell,
the lineman out of LSU at seven. Ian, I defer
to you with your squad, how happy would you be there?

Speaker 2 (12:36):
I'd like it, I'd like it.

Speaker 6 (12:37):
The big question with Campbell was his arm length, and
he went to the combine measured in and it turns
out that he does indeed have very very short arms,
like historically short for t rex, right, He's literally a
t rex. So it's it's a little questionable there, like
can he stick at tackle? But like the bottom line
is that Will Campbell is the best just straight offensive

(12:58):
lineman in the draft, whether he's guard whatever, He's gonna
find a home. So yeah, I like it. And then
they need help on the offensive line that everyone does always,
So there.

Speaker 3 (13:06):
You go, tell the good people where to find you
and your analysis on socials.

Speaker 6 (13:10):
Yeah, you do have a bunch of draft work at
Jets x factor. That's at Jets x Factor, and then
my stuff is at Ian Roddy Underscore there on.

Speaker 3 (13:18):
Twitter's Ian Roddy our executive producer. He works with Dan
and I on the iwatcher Flex podcast. You can hear
the analysis there at the last episode we did the
five round mock draft before the silly season began. You
know why because it's a teaser because eventually we get
to come back and do it all over again, once
we find new homes for these people and new stickers
on the side of their helmets. He's already spann your

(13:40):
in for Jason Smith. I'm Mike Carbon coming up next.
We talked to Mark Stein, the Jalen Brunson injury, the Lakers,
the Warriors, all the fun and excitement of the NBA.
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(15:51):
on Mike talking all things NBA. The world in front
of us, still talking and buzzing about the big injury
and game last night. That's really front and center for
us as we go forward. Arnie, certainly you are still
a little weepy over the Jalen brun See brunts and injury.

Speaker 4 (16:12):
Yeah. Yeah, Well, first of it was gonna be a
lot worse. That's why. Sure, I thought it was gonna
be like the season ending, or it worse that he
was not even gonna make it back for the playoffs
or maybe the first round. Now we hear it's gonna
be two weeks. I think they'll reevaluate it in two weeks.
Hopefully he comes back, you know, like with about six
seven games left. Rest that body up. We'll see how

(16:35):
effective he's gonna be. But it was horrible to see
him go down like that.

Speaker 3 (16:40):
Well, let's talk to a man who knows about this
and everything going on in our NBA. It's Mark Stein.
Joins us at the steinline where you find him on
x You can read him at Substack. Mark Stein dot
substack dot com longtime NBA scribe insider, Mark, Welcome into
the show on a big Friday night. How are you?

Speaker 5 (17:01):
I am all good, but I think, yeah, it could
have been a lot worse with Jalen Brunson, honestly, So
if you are a Knicks fan, as I'm getting the
vibe from the weepiness that you are, I mean, yeah,
I think things could have been a lot worse. I
don't think Jalen Brunton will be back in two weeks,

(17:24):
but again I think that the efficient you know, the
way it looks, you certainly thought it could be a
much more severe injury. And I'm based in Dallas, so
the team I covered seems to know nothing but injuries.
So an injury that turns out less severe than anticipated

(17:45):
always always always the better outcome.

Speaker 3 (17:49):
All right, So well let's go to Dallas first, we'll
circle back alreadie you can get back on your knicks
and trying to revive them in a moment for the Mavericks,
how is how are the more Cubans going in Dallas?
We're talking about hey would have gotten a better deal
and all of that rhetoric after we've watched just the
carnage the last couple of weeks.

Speaker 5 (18:11):
Well, I don't think it's too surprising, honestly, because you know,
it's pretty well known that, you know, Mark Cuban was
as big a Luca Dogs fan as there was in Dallas.
And you know, the first five plus seasons of Luca's
career when Mark Cuban was still the majority owner of

(18:34):
the Dallas Mavericks. I mean, really, everything they did was
designed to make him happy, try to put a good
team around him. You know what makes it all so
emotional in Dallas. A big part of this is, and
this is kind of unique to the Mavericks and unique

(18:56):
to the city and unique to the history of the franchise,
is that, you know, Dirknavitski played twenty one years for
the Mavericks, which is a single team NBA record that
might never be broken. You obviously, Stephen Curry has a chance,
so he has the opportunity to be one a one

(19:17):
team legend. But like you just don't see that much
in the modern NBA, And in those last years of
Davitski's career, the last two three years, it just hung
over the franchise, How on earth do you replace someone
who is synonymous with the team as Dirk Davitski was.

(19:38):
And then not only were the Mavericks able to find
a way to acquire the draft rights to Luka Doncic
on draft Nights in twenty eighteen, but Dirk and Luca
actually played a past the Torch season together. Dirk's last
season was Lucas first, and so the way Luca's career began,
and then with all the success he had, and how

(20:02):
even Dirk would tell you that this guy has a
higher ceiling than I did. This guy has a much
more NBA ready game, and you see it with you know,
in Luka Donsig's first six NBA seasons, he was All
NBA five times. You know, Dirk's four first team All
NBA selections, those are the only other four in Mavericks

(20:22):
franchise history in terms of first team All NBA. So,
I mean, it's really like the Mavericks trading Dirk's little brother.
And that's why this is so difficult and why it's
just this is a heartbroken franchise, a fan base, heartbroken

(20:46):
fan base that with the Kyrie Irving injury, now it's
just keeping even more heartbreak on a fan base that
was already suffering. So it's a situation unlike I've ever seen, honestly,
and I've been this is my thirty second season covering
the league.

Speaker 4 (21:02):
Well, I don't know if this is just a bad
rumor that everybody was putting out there, or maybe I
believed that any chance that they actually may move the
franchise to Vegas, or is that just a bad rumor
being stirred up out.

Speaker 5 (21:15):
Yes, that is a that is a that is the
wildest of conspiracy theories. And you know, I don't know,
maybe in our world today, like we look for the
conspiracy theory in everything.

Speaker 3 (21:28):
But.

Speaker 5 (21:30):
The Mavericks are a top five market in terms of
market size, like the NBA. Let's just let's just if
you wanted to play along and pretend that there actually
was that that that was the secret plan. The league
and the other owners are not going to let that happen. Okay,

(21:50):
you can get when there's a when there's a team,
when there's an expansion franchise in Vegas. Eventually we know
that's a likely outcome. The expansion franchise is going to
be worse. You know, the expansion fee is going to
be six billion, maybe more. The NBA doesn't need to
move a highly successful franchise in Dallas to Vegas when

(22:13):
they're going to be able to bring an expansion team
in at a very hefty price. So that really is
just wild and nonsensical talk that you know. Again, but
you know what, I think it's the one thing it
does is that this trade was so shocking that maybe,

(22:34):
you know, a curmudgeon like me has to accept that
people want to think that there has to be some
sort of wild story behind it because it was so shocked.

Speaker 3 (22:46):
Well, Mark, there was another good one. I heard Mark
Stein with us at the Steinlin Words where you find
them on Twitter. Jason Smith Show with Mike Harmon Already
in for Jason is that the Adelson's will team up
with Lebron for Vegas and Mark Cuban eyes the dip
and gets the Mavericks back.

Speaker 5 (23:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (23:04):
I wouldn't. I wouldn't.

Speaker 5 (23:06):
I wouldn't wait on that one either. Look, I think
I think the Adelson and Dumont families have been, you know,
very clear about what their you know, business intentions were
when they bought the Mavericks from Mark Cuban you know,
they know casino gambling is not legal in Texas yet,

(23:27):
but you know, their hope is that it will pass eventually,
and they're, you know, among the factions leading the drive
to try to get gambling legalized. But you know, they
want to build a new arena as part of a
casino resort, and you know that was really their play

(23:48):
and I do think that is still very much their intentions.
But you know, I'm a basketball writer. I you know,
I I don't I'm not in this to cover development stuff,
so I mean, that's not really my focus. And you know,
I've been writing and talking about nothing else for nearly

(24:10):
forty days because the trade is about that old and
I still don't believe it. Like Luka Doncic comes on
the TV screen wearing Lakers colors and playing just you know,
he's he's really starting to look like full throttle Luca.
I mean the way he closed the Knicks out, and
you know he and Lebron James and Austin Reeves. I

(24:33):
mean that's the thing. The Lakers are small, and it's
going to be difficult for them to win a championship
without a top flight center, which they obviy don't obviously
don't have right now, having given up Anthony Davis to
get Luka Doncic. But in today's NBA, and the Mavericks
proved this the first time Luca led them to the
conference finals when they still had Brunson. When you had

(24:55):
Luca and Brunson and then Spencer Dinwitty as the third
ballhander like in today's NBA, you know, you can do
a lot of damage if you have multiple playmakers, multiple
guys who can get their own shot and make plays
for others. And the Lakers do have that at an
even higher level when you put Luca with Lebron and

(25:19):
then Austin Reeves as your third option. So they're going
to be undoubtedly just there. Undoubtedly going to be defensive
questions about the Lakers. They are a small team, but
they are going to cause problems for the opposition because
of what those three guys can do with the ball.

Speaker 4 (25:37):
You know, Mark, you want to talk about causing problems.
I think this could be a really big problem. I'm
a basketball snob, so I'm with Boston, I'm with the Lakers.
I'm with the Knicks. Cleveland and Oklahoma City are having
phenomenal years. Could you imagine what we we'd be talking
all NBA if it was the Celtics and the Lakers

(25:57):
that had fifty two and fifty three wins. We wouldn't
be able to We couldn't get enough for that. But
because it's Cleveland and Oklahoma City, we're all snobs to it.
We're like, ah, you know, who cares as as long
as we get to see the something. So the Lakers there,
how do you deal with something like that?

Speaker 5 (26:14):
Well, I do think also some of that is, you know,
the trade deadline activity was really a frenzy unlike we've
ever seen. And because the Lakers were at the heart
of that, and the Warriors were at the heart of that,
and you end up with Luka Doncic and Jimmy Butler

(26:35):
ending up with new teams and just the effect that
has on the Western Conference and the title picture and
all those things. I think that's why the focus is
on them. But I mean, look, I think you're right
to a degree. You know, Cleveland and Oklahoma City are
not often described as glamour franchises. I mean, so have

(26:57):
they been under the radar, have they been undercovered, have
they been slighted? I'm sure they feel that way. I mean,
the Cavs have been a ridiculously good story to start
fifteen in zero, to have three winning streaks of at
least twelve games. Only one other team in league history's
done that, the Dallas Mavericks in two thousand and six,

(27:19):
two thousand and seven. Now, Cleveland does not want to
follow that team's lead on how it did in the playoffs,
because of course, that Mavericks team won sixty seven games
and then lost in the first round as a number
one speed to Golden State. But look, Cleveland and Oklahoma City,
the playoffs will be here and we will be talking
about those teams a ton, because for all of their

(27:41):
remarkable success in the regular season, there are still going
to be doubts about what they can do, because that's
just what happens in the NBA. We doubt you until
you can win on the foremost of stages. There's just
no way around it. As great as Yokich's Denver had
to hear that noise four years until they finally won

(28:02):
it all, and Cleveland's gonna have to go through it,
and Oklahoma City is gonna have to go through it.
And if the Lakers can get ahead of Steam in
the playoffs and play Oklahoma City in the hypothetical Western Conference.
It's gonna be fascinating to see how the Thunder, who
have a much bigger team if Holdgrin and Hertenstein are healthy.

(28:24):
But all the pressure will be on Oklahoma City to
live up to the number one seed. And it's ridiculously good.
It's regular season, so I think April, May and June
we will be talking about we will make it up
to the Cavs and the Thunder We'll be talking about
them a lot.

Speaker 3 (28:39):
I love as you went through the teams and you
rope Denver in because I think they're getting to just
play in anonymity right now and they're playing the Suns
in battling tonight. But we've spent so much time with
everybody else, and like Arnie complaining about who we're not
talking about that Denver just gets to go do their thing.
What's a legitimate ceiling for Golden State? Do you think?

Speaker 5 (29:03):
I'm a huge Jimmy Butler fan, so I think they
can cause a lot of problems in the playoffs too. Now,
just like the Lakers, they are very small and if
you're in a conference with you know, again, let's assume
health for the Thunder in the playoffs. If they've got chet,
Holmgren and Hertenstein, they are suddenly a big team, which

(29:23):
they weren't a year ago when they lost in the
second round to Dallas and Denver. You know, with the Nuggets,
you always wonder do they have enough shooting, do they
have enough bench? But they do have a lot of Jokic,
who is, for me, the best player in the world
at this point. I think you should win the MVP.

(29:46):
I know there's going to be a lot of people
who think Shay Yield just Alexander should Jokic would be
my pick. I think this is the best basketball Jokic
has ever played. And now that the Nuggets have kind
of left their slow start behind and they're going to
be a fifty win team, I think Jokic should be
the MVP. You've still got to deal with him, and

(30:07):
you know, can a Golden State beat Denver in a
playoff series as small as they are, can they neutralize
Jokics enough? Can they force the ball into the hands
of the others and you know, neutralized Jokics to some degree?
I mean that that's a big ass But like I said,

(30:29):
I just think. I think Jimmy Butler is you know,
he really has energized this team already. He's such a
smart player. He's completely different to Stephan Curry. He gets
free throw, he gets to the rim, he generates free throws.
And Okay, the Warriors will be small, but with Draymond

(30:51):
Green and James and Jimmy Butler on the floor, they're
going to be very smart defensively and very sharp. And
I don't think, I don't think anybody really wants to
see them in the playoffs, especially because Stephen Curry happens
to be on a crazy heater right now too.

Speaker 3 (31:06):
On top of everything, he's Mark Stein at the Steinline
where you find him on Twitter. Meet at mark Stein
dot substack dot com. We got a couple of games
coming down to the wire. Mark. If you go to
his Twitter account at or x account at the Steinline,
you'll see one of the greatest looking basketball cards ever
in his pin tweet. Mark always appreciate the visits. We

(31:27):
look forward to it again next week. Go and join
the games, all right, guys, care I appreciate you at
the Steinline where you find them in the Twitter verse. Yeah,
he's got a good well he's in the Hall of
Fame as a contributor and correspondent. There's a great picture
of him interviewing Kobe Bryant. Is the card that they
used to commeborate it. If you go to his Twitter account,

(31:50):
it's it's one of those things. We had a nice
long conversation about that a while back. But one of
my favorite images, you know, my love of the it's
one I guess addiction to my love of caffeine, which
is why I like Jimmy Butler and Big Face Coffee.
All of that to say, as my caffeine needs a replenishing,
it's time to welcome back in Steve de Sager with

(32:11):
an update of what's going on. A couple of late
NBA games keep us in throwing.

Speaker 2 (32:15):
Steve doing well.

Speaker 7 (32:16):
And well a little better than Phoenix because they came
from twenty one down to force overtime, and now Denver
leads by eight midway through the OT In Colorado, it's
Nuggets one thirty five one, twenty seven in the league
because Nikola Jokic has not only a triple double, it's
thirty one points, twenty rebounds, eighteen assists.

Speaker 4 (32:38):
Wow.

Speaker 7 (32:38):
Kevin Durant had hit the tying three pointer at the
buzzer from the corner at the end of the fourth quarter,
but again Suns down eight midway through the overtime min
and a half to go. In LA, the Clippers still
lead the Knicks one hundred to ninety one. Jalen Brunson
of the Knicks out at least two weeks with a
sprain to Ankle's averaging twenty six point seven assists this

(32:59):
year at Sacramento, thirty six points for Zach Levine in
a win over San Antonio one twenty seven to one
oh nine. Dearon Fox Ex of Sacramento was zero for
six on three pointers sixteen points in defeat for the Kings. Today,
DeMar DeRozan was fined twenty five thousand dollars for criticizing
the refs. Minnesota won one oh six one oh four
at Miami. Memphis ended a four game losing streak with

(33:22):
a victory at Dallas one twenty two to one eleven.
Jahn Morant thirty one points, eight assists and Desmond Bane
for Memphis twenty seven points, sixteen rebounds. Clay Thompson and
the lost six of nineteen from the floor. Anthony Davis
the Mavericks say what that strained deductor is quote improving,
but there's no return date for him. Oklahoma City has

(33:43):
won six in a row after beating Portland one oh
seven to eighty nine Blazers from three point range tonight
eight for forty three OKC one without Shay Gilgess Alexander
he was rested, and so thirty points for Aaron Wiggins
and a w at Toronto thirty four points for Manual Quick.
The Raptors beat Utah one eighteen, one oh nine. Walker

(34:03):
Kessler of the Jazz did have twenty five rebounds and
eight blocks in the loss, but Utah's record is fifteen
and forty eight and Cleveland sent Charlotte to another loss
one eighteen one seventeen. The Cabs have won thirteen games
in a row. Charlotte's lost nine straight. For the Hornets
in this defeat, Miles Bridge is forty six points. In
college basketball, Illinois beat number eighteen Perdue eighty eight to eighty.

(34:27):
NHL Everything's final, including a Vegas home shutout win against
Pittsburgh for nothing and at Vancouver Canucks three to one
over Minnesota. The Seattle Seahawks traded quarterback Gino Smith to
the Raiders. Yeah, he's going to play for coach Pete
Carroll again. Seattle gets a third rounder Smith.

Speaker 4 (34:43):
This is older Gino Smith or t Carroll. No, I'm curious.
We'll shut up. Somebody look it up.

Speaker 7 (34:49):
Just because he's gotten to many a team, had many
a contract. Actually, by this point, Smith has one year
left on his current deal. For now, quarterback Sam Darnold
is available for those thinking about Seattle's hole at the position.
The Titans are cutting. Pass rusher Harold Landry, Tennessee has
the number one overall draft choice. Next month, Washington released
defensive tackle Jonathan Allen. Tampa Bay re signed linebacker Levonte David.

(35:12):
Five spring training games were rained out in Arizona. The
news from Florida. The Yankee pitcher Garrett Cole will undergo
tests on his elbow.

Speaker 3 (35:19):
Back to you, thanks so much, Steve. As we continue
live from the tyrack dot com studios tyrack dot Com,
We'll help you get there. He's Steve, He's Arnie, Arnie.
You just talk to Steve de Silver. I'm Mike Carman.
See the brain, open mouth, say things. All of those
moving parts. We've got alex and Ian making a sound.

(35:40):
So pretty Shae in the back. We appreciate y'all. As
we continue, we'll stick with the NBA, react to some
of what mark Stein just had to say. What are
the ceilings for some of these hot teams? As we
go through. As Arnie continues to complain about the number
one seeds, we'll do that next year on Fox.

Speaker 2 (35:59):
Be sure to cat live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
pm Pacific.

Speaker 3 (36:06):
Welcome back into the tyrack dot Com Fox Sports Radio
Studios Jason Smith Show with Me Mike Harmon, No Jason Tonight,
Arnie span Your in his stead. Coming up in about
ten minutes, we'll get into an NFL team that has
a lot of questions. We talk about age and the
need to win. Now we do it with quarterbacks, we

(36:27):
do it with coaches. Should we be doing the same
thing with owners? And Noah for once, I'm not talking
about Jerry Jones. We'll get to that coming up in
about ten minutes. But the NBA hot and heated here
late Friday night into a Saturday morning. Arnie Spanier and
we talked about a number of teams with Mark Stein

(36:47):
and he just casually mentioned the Nuggets.

Speaker 4 (36:50):
Yeah, did you hear?

Speaker 3 (36:53):
What?

Speaker 4 (36:54):
Did you hear? What you I mean, y'all get to
put up the first, what was it, thirty twenty twenty
game in NBA history? How about that? That is incredible
and I had the game on. That's just insane to
have those type of numbers. Thirty points, twenty rebounds, twenty assists,
that's just absolutely out of this world. I can't believe

(37:16):
that's the first one in NBA history. When it was
all said and done.

Speaker 3 (37:19):
Wow, I mean we had a lot of ten ten
tens from Jason Kidd back in the day. Yes, this
is just insanity, right, plus eight for the night. You've
got Gordon with twenty seven, Porter sixteen, Jokics thirty one,
Murray with nineteen, Row with twenty five, and then you
still had two war double digit scores off the bench.

Speaker 4 (37:39):
Well, let's how many points did they have overall?

Speaker 3 (37:42):
Well they finished with one forty nine?

Speaker 4 (37:44):
What forty nine, So he had thirty and he had
twenty assists, so that's another let's say forty points, so
he was seventy of the one to forty. Almost half
the points was because of him. That's that's crazy.

Speaker 3 (37:57):
Operational efficiency. Certainly you do the map like that so
quickly too, Well, you know what you're on here. You
must be taking your Ginka blow by. Alex Tyshert, Would
you like to chime in on the mental acuity of
one Arnie Spaniard this late into the evening.

Speaker 6 (38:11):
I would say he's pretty much on pace to not
only passing out, but starting to say some bodacious things
about me being a hippiean from California?

Speaker 3 (38:20):
Is he giving you a hard time behind the scenes?

Speaker 4 (38:23):
You have no idea, Mike, Are you.

Speaker 3 (38:25):
Harassing Alex Tyshert. He's with us on a Friday night.
It's a big deal, thank you.

Speaker 4 (38:29):
That's what the breaks are. Forest harass the producers and
all that stuff. That's what we do. You know.

Speaker 3 (38:36):
I thought it was to show them some love, and
so I will say that the disappointing thing is the
Suns on the losing side score one hundred and forty
one points and the good times were over for Bowl Bowl.
He only had five points and five boards today.

Speaker 4 (38:49):
Well was it the Kevin Durant three at the buzzer?
What ahadn't sent it into overtime?

Speaker 3 (38:55):
So yeah, he finishes twenty nine to nine and nine.
The Suns are an interesting squad, right, Kevin Durant before
the trade deadline, basically just saying I didn't want to move,
right Bradley Beale one of Uh. We still want to
know how that no trade clause got into his contract.

Speaker 4 (39:12):
I wonder where the Rats go up next year because
they said they were going to talk it over and
figure out a place for him. Where's that place for
him though? Where they you know, who's that one team
that needs him. I don't see him going to the
Lakers or the next maybe the next maybe.

Speaker 3 (39:28):
You never know what what he feels is the uh,
the decision right to go and be be a third
guy somewhere, be a wheel and just be the Salim
Reaper and go to work. Uh. Trade deadline had the
heat and the rockets and the magic. I'm trying to
look at next teams for him because now now we're
starting to talk about him as one of the big

(39:51):
dominoes to fall, assuming they blow it all up there.
Uh in Phoenix. As we go at great video yesterday.

Speaker 4 (40:00):
He really needs to go back to Golden State. They
really need him as well as they're playing with Jimmy Butler.
Could you imagine if they had the rampack, then they
could make a running things.

Speaker 3 (40:08):
Well, And that was one of the ones at the
trade deadline that came up the bunch and he and
Draymond Green kind of talked in circles around it and
then it just came back to the I didn't want
to move. So it's it's kind of curious. So for
Durant down the next like he got, he's certainly will
have enough shooters still playing at an elite.

Speaker 4 (40:29):
Yeah, plenty of game up for him, There's no doubt.
Still got plenty of game there. He could still be
a number two player, but some of these teams would
be at number three maybe.

Speaker 3 (40:38):
Yeah, because there maybe Golden State and in an off
season because he went and he built an empire out
of that. Like one of the big things he did,
plenty of articles written about it is he spent a
lot of time in the offices of big companies in
Silicon Valley picking brains and making investments.

Speaker 4 (40:55):
You know, I've heard a lot of the like Steve
Kerr and those guys, they get their tips from what
the owner up there, and you know they're heavy into investments.
Kevin the rant makes a boat load, as you mentioned,
so I'm curious to see how how much money he's
made away from the NBA.

Speaker 3 (41:14):
Well, the other thing is you can always talk to
members of Congress there. It is everybody uh here all
week at Sticking Genius one where you find already find
me over at swell Window as we continue back to
an owner who's got some explaining and decision making to
do because the pressure is mounting. And no it's not

(41:35):
Jerry Jones for once, as that aging owner, a lot
of big contracts and a guy looking for a trade.
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