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Speaker 1 (00:29):
Fox Sports Radio The Jason Smith Show with My best
friend Mike Harmon. Yeah, second Friday, Welcome inside, as we
break down Game two of the Eastern Conference Finals, which
really should be Game four of the Eastern Conference Finals,
because the Knicks aren't winning a game. This series is over.
It's broke, it's own. It's broke, and I'm not saying
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this going on next week. You see what I did.
I said it was owned. No, No, it's done. The
Knicks aren't winning win a game. They're gonna lose Game
three by twenty and Game four by thirty. That's what's
gonna happen. By That's what's gonna happen.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
Man.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
I'm telling you they're just gonna quit. Is that what
you're saying? Look, let me just let me just let
me just say this, right, because this is a big
thing coming off the game, and this is it's a
it's a weird it's a weird thing to think about,
but it makes a lot of sense. The Pacers come
in tonight and Pascal Siakam has the game of his
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life right with thirty nine points, and I mean, look,
he's a third different player with thirty points at the
pace in the first two games. We we talked about this,
the the out coaching of Tom Thibodeau, which what Rick is,
what Rick Carlisle is doing now. But there is this
to be said, and I I you know, this is
this should be made more of a part of it,
but it's not. Teams have great home court advantage, right
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and and you see it. And there was a really
fun thing right before the Eastern Conference Finals started where uh,
you saw Trey Young say, ah, you think New York
is great? Is great because the crowd is amazing for
the game six against the against the Boston Celtics, and
but Oklahoma City's crowd is louder. Right, Okay, there's lots
of great crowds. There's lots of big home court advantage crowds,
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and you would think, okay, well, Madison Square Garden MSG
huge deal. There are places that you go into that
it's a hostile environment. There are places you go into
where you know, as a team, I gotta buckle down
and I have to understand that we're gonna be in
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for it and it's everything we can do to try
to get a win here. It's gonna be really really difficult,
right like in Oklahoma City and that. And you go
into a situation like that with a little bit more
you know, thinking about it focused, knowing that it's a
hostile environment right now that you're getting intimidated. But there's
different home court advantages. You're think, well, MSG, it's the
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nixt it's it's the greatest arena in the world. It's
all the stars. Yes, but nobody goes into MSG in
intimidated or thinking I gotta put my hard hat on.
It's gonna be a war to come out of there,
or the win doesn't happen. Players go into Madison Square
Guard the most famous arena in the world, and they
are jacked up by the challenge and they feel comfortable
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playing on the knicks. Well, look, Lebron James said it
his entire career. I love playing at MSG. He goes
off every time he's at MSG. It's why you should have
called the Knicks. But I love Madison square guard, and
so what happens. There's no intimidation factor. There's no I
had to buckle my chin strap on because it's gonna
be tough trying to go in MSG and get a win.
The Pacers play a MSG like they're playing at home.
I mean, really, you see the confidence they have. There's
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nothing with the crowd. There's no fac there's nothing. They
come out and they are playing so comfortably and you
would think they're the home team. There's no panic, there's
nothing that the crowd. There's no effect the crowd has
on the game. It's a great crowd, right, It's a
great crowd. You see it again Game six against the Celtics.
It was a It's a perfect atmosphere for that game.
If I could have been to one sporting event in
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the last ten years, I'd want to beat the last
two and a half quarters of that game because it
was a party. It was a party with a lot
of big superstars, and Knicks are winning big. That's what
I would want. But teams don't come into MSG and
get intimidated. It's while teams come in and win at
Madison Square Garden so often. It's how the Pacers, who
already are confident playing on the road, winning the first
two in Cleveland, they win the first two here. But
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it's different here at Madison Square Garden. You have guys
stepping up, feeling that limelight unlike they have had before.
Speaker 4 (04:26):
Right.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
You had Nie Smith looking like Steph Curry in his
heyday where he's finding open spots for some reason, ogianno
Nooby says, ah, I'm gonna give you some room to
shoot a three. Oh, that's great, thanks. You had Pascal Siaka,
who's a really good player and an all start. He's
a really good player, but he looked like bleeping prime
Kevin Durant tonight in this game, and the Knicks couldn't
stop him, and they're doing everything they can defeed him
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the ball.
Speaker 4 (04:49):
It's not like, hey, he's you.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
Know, he's rebounding, missus or he said no, he's absolutely dumb.
And you know was the game plan off the bat
because he scored the first eleven points. So you know,
Rick car Carle again out coaching Tom Thibodeau new we're
gonna come at Jim with this strategy in this game,
and and they're gonna be on their heels because they're
not gonna be expecting us to be doing what it is.
But we know we can do this, like this is
what happens when you play at MSG. So it's not
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that the Knicks are playing from a deficit, because there's
certainly lots of arenas where we don't mind playing there.
The crowd is not that into it. It's it's okay.
This is where I'm jacked up by the challenge and
I accept it and I'm excited to play, and I
don't hear the crowd and and and nothing is going
to phase me in this There's not a real home
court advantage that the Knicks have that you think they have.
Speaker 4 (05:36):
And look at look at their playoff history. Look at
this series.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
Right here, Pacers are down fifteen with three and a
half minutes left to go. Teams usually put it away,
we're done, it's not our night. We're down fifteen. Nope,
we're still pouring it down the court. We're still hitting
threes and shutting up the crowd, and we're celebrating. We're excited.
This is all they're doing and tonight, oh we're not
happy with just one win. We're gonna come in and
blow the doors off you.
Speaker 4 (05:57):
And here we go.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
We got the game plan and we're excited and Halliburton's
blow and kisses and winking.
Speaker 4 (06:01):
At the side.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
This is how teams come into MSG. They're excited to
have this. All the great players want to play great.
There's no in fact that the one thing I can
say is that I wish they Knicks really didn't have
a great home court advantage because maybe the other team
wouldn't come in as jacked up to play games, and
maybe it's a more even playing field for them. It's weird,
but that's the reality of playing at Madison Square Garden.
Speaker 5 (06:25):
Yeah, it's not quite a neutral site game. But we've
certainly seen the the notion across sports, as maybe baseball
still with the fact that you're playing at different angles
and measurements and whatever else, so you can still, you know,
build your team for the eighty one home home game slate.
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But everything else we've seen home court home field advantage.
That coefficient is shrunk for the most part across sports.
Even in these playoffs. We've seen it and that's not
to say what you know, just isolating these two games
that we've just watched. For the Pacers. New York's a
different animal, right, bright Light's a Broadway and you mentioned
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Lebron James, go on down the line. Look at all
the games Jordan had, Look at all the games some
of the best players in the world, because you want
that stage. Because if you go in and beat the Knicks,
even if they're not these knicks that were expected to
reach great heights, you're still winning in New York, which
means you're being talked about in New York, which means
you're being talked about across nationwide. Giving the histories of
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guys either coming from New York, working in New York,
television shows, emanating for all of it, it's going to
be magnified on a whole other level. So, yeah, you win,
you build your brand, because that's the other part of it.
It's brand building, right, It's seizing the moment, but recognizing
like Helliburon most overrated guy.
Speaker 4 (07:54):
Okay, I get it.
Speaker 5 (07:55):
Only ninety guys voted and for those that want to
try to dismiss it, and I saw you out there
TV radio guys, I love you all ninety is statistically
significant in a league of what four fifty ish all
right story percent of the league. Not a massive number,
but guess what, it's over thirty. I can count so
fourteen of those people saying he's overrated. You don't think
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he took that to heart. Of course, you don't think
his teammates rallied around that. The timing of that doesn't help.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
But also but also look Halliburton, who had games in
the first round against like he was great. Sometimes you
get the great Halliburton. Sometimes you get the Halliburton that
just kind of sets passivity and what have you. You
were think in one of these two games we're gonna
get Nope, nope, nope. I am ready because I love
playing in Madison Square Guard and it kind of pisses
me off that, you know what, you should be playing
this way all the time, right, get that a little bit,
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Not not about the knicks, but it's just like, you
know what, why I get that you get a little
bit more juice playing an MSG, But boy, if you
could have games like this, why aren't you playing like
this all the time? No, I'm gonna save it for MS. Okay,
now I'm mad well I'm gonna save it for the Knicks.
We're playing a massive bard, but like, why aren't you
playing like this?
Speaker 3 (08:59):
He does?
Speaker 1 (08:59):
This is personal what they heard some Yahoo on the
radio saying that with the Knicks, we got something for
the Pacers this year, and I took it was you.
I took that personally.
Speaker 5 (09:12):
But all of that to say, winning there holds a
whole other level of ownership and angst. Uh that you're
creating for the fan base, for media members forever. So
that and adding to a laundry list of near misses. Uh,
you have to relish that. If you're Carlisle, if you're
any of the guys in that locker room, you're looking
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around going all right, now we've we've exposed it, and
we can go finish the job, right. Siakam coming off
the jump six of his eight shots in the first quarter,
where from the free throw, lining in, trying to create
some contact, trying to get that Nick's short rotation even
shorter by having someone in foul trouble? Did it accomplish
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that fully?
Speaker 1 (09:56):
No?
Speaker 5 (09:56):
But he's hitting all those shots he only took. He
was one of two for three point range. So you
get him going in the end you have six guys
in double figures. You're a guy McConnell coming in.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
Agitating, and he's a guy that comes in again. Your
bench is not supposed to play better on the road
than at home. But here comes the bench of the
pacers and we're coming in. We're a sport now. Now
mcconnald's like that. This is kind of how he plays.
But the bench is not supposed to come out and
play like this on the road. Bench is supposed to
always be Your bench plays better at home because of
the energy of the crowd and things. And you have
McConnell come in tonight and shoot five out of eight
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and find his way to the basket whenever he wanted TJ.
McConnell finding his way to the basket whenever he wanted to.
Speaker 5 (10:33):
Well, but that's the thing, right as you're hitting three
point shots and what were they thirteen to forty I
think for the night, But you're looking at the spreading
of the court to where now those wide open drives,
I mean you saw Halliburton do a couple of those.
You only finished with fourteen but had eleven assists. You
go to collapse on him wide open and McConnell doing
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a great job finding space, tired legs. They've substituted cat
in the fourth quarter. We talked about it with the
Thibodeau comments all of that to say, there's there's nothing
like getting the crowd fired up other than taking the
crowd completely out of a game.
Speaker 4 (11:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
No, it's just and it will take you to heaven
before I send you to hell and a one and
a two and we sail the ocean blue. No, but
there is there is something to be said for that,
and that's a big part of what we've seen the
first couple of nights. Right like, if if the Knicks
were just if this was a Pacers team that was
playing in Boston, if they were playing somebody, Yeah, well
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the Parsers are great, they're going through Yeah nah, But
are they doing this on the red now? I don't
think they are. I don't think Siakam's going for thirty nine. Again, well,
part of it is Tom Thibodeau being out coach, But
I don't think they have this kind of impact in
both games, and likely they go on the road, win
one of the two and they're going back home. Hey,
we're happy now we have home court. Advantage. We split
the first two games. That's happened. But MSG it just
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brings everybody out on it, and this is what happens.
Speaker 5 (12:00):
Corrections thirteen of thirty For the Pacers from three point range,
I credit them with way too many misses.
Speaker 4 (12:07):
Uh, but yeah, you find.
Speaker 5 (12:09):
That extra juice, that extra energy, and a lot of
the talk was all right, the Pacers, we're gonna get
payback for coming back from two to oh last year. Well,
maybe the Knicks can can turn the other cheek. Yeah,
not not happening, like Back to the Future four, not happening.
Try not, buddy, it's all the series is over.
Speaker 4 (12:29):
Michael J.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
Fox was at the game series. Maybe that was a
scene him and Bill Murray. Yeah, we're actually sorry. We're
actually shooting a movie, all right, just just so you know,
none of these the only dive feels if none of
these games are real. Get no, We're shooting a movie
where the Knicks collapse and how it affects the lives
of all these stars. It's gonna it's a it's a
big Uh. It wouldn't be Guy Ritchie, it would be uh,
who would be a who would be a great Holly?
(12:51):
It would be a big Steven Soderberg movie, Okay, where
it's how the Knicks loss shapes the future of all
these Hollywood actors. If you're telling me that and then
you say, hey, sorry, the series really hasn't started yet.
It's gonna be in a couple of days. But boy,
we got a lot of great video for the movie.
I would say, oh awesome. That's the only thing.
Speaker 5 (13:08):
Who would John Claude Van Dam replace in the starting
lineup if he had to, you know, help them avoid
a crisis.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
Yeah, at this point, probably probably probably exit out about
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Speaker 1 (14:54):
Nah I Think it's over, Nah Met Show, Thank you, Mary,
I think it's over. Fox Sports Radio. The Jason Smith
Show with my best friend Mike Armie, Yeah Pacers beat
the Knicks like I told you was gonna happen, one fourteen,
one oh nine. They lead the Eastern Conference Finals two
games to none. Do the Knicks have any hope? Do
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You can find them on Twitter at Mark g Underscore Medina.
It is the aforementioned Mark Medina.
Speaker 4 (15:30):
Mark. What's happening?
Speaker 3 (15:31):
Man?
Speaker 4 (15:31):
How are you?
Speaker 3 (15:33):
Uh? I don't say that the troll, but I'm probably
doing better than you right now.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
Oh no, no, you absolutely are one hundred percent.
Speaker 4 (15:39):
But by the end of the show.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
I will be fine because I knew this was coming.
Speaker 3 (15:43):
So let's just establish. Am I here to console troll
or both? What do we got?
Speaker 4 (15:48):
Well?
Speaker 1 (15:49):
How about how about this? How about is tu up?
And we'll go from there? How about that?
Speaker 4 (15:52):
You ready? Okay?
Speaker 3 (15:53):
Al?
Speaker 1 (15:54):
It sounds good percentage chance this series is over because
I have it about one hundred and seven five percent
chance the series is over.
Speaker 3 (16:02):
Wow, I think it's seventy five percent chance it's over.
It's not quite like that.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
No, I have one hundred I said this series is over.
Speaker 4 (16:11):
This series is over.
Speaker 3 (16:12):
I think it's only seventy five percent chance. I think
it's still that twenty five percent chance that they can
come back. It's better than the slim odds that Mary
Swanson gave, you know, Harry or Lloyd about you know
one a million about that me and Dummer.
Speaker 4 (16:28):
Right, So I'm saying there's a chance.
Speaker 3 (16:29):
Oh yeah, sure, there's a much better chance twenty five
percent odds. Uh. The reason I say that is very
few teams come back from O two. It's happened before,
but very few. The Pacers just have much more depth.
They've been more consistent than Knicks. Look tired. I don't
know what I'm getting from Coloradnton townsment night to night
basis and Jalen Brunson is playing out of his absolute
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mind and is putting himself in that conversation of Nick
Goats and it's still is not enough. So uh yeah,
they'll fight, haul compete because that's what they do. So
because of that, it's technically not over. But you know
this is a tough haul.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
You mad, because the NBA has TV partners and they
have two games and the advertising is sold. The series
isn't over, but we're gonna play two more games.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
And you know what, there there might be a frozen
envelope express mail coming.
Speaker 5 (17:22):
It was a full week of conspiracy theories, no doubt,
so why not fuel a few more. But final minutes
of this game mark is we're watching it unfold. Pascal
Siakam Early and then Halliburton and seemingly everybody else. The
Miles Turner one is the backbreaker for me standing in
the corner by himself.
Speaker 3 (17:42):
Yeah, and look, Pascal, he did an All star caliber player,
so not like he's a scrub. He didn't come out
of nowhere. They made a huge deal to get him.
His chemistry with Tyres Haliburton's great, but he's not a
superstar player. The form to put up thirty nine points,
that's indefensible. No one was covering him. I think the
other thing that's very troubling is Tyres Haliburn didn't shoot
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the ball well, he only went five to sixteen. Now,
you know, his value obviously is always in passing first.
I mean, he did have eleven assists, but if he's
not a scoring threat, usually that leaves the pacer vulnerable.
But you know, to their credit, they roll like eleven deep.
They do have eleven. They do have a lot of depth,
but had the stake. Isn't having his best game. The
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Knicks got to take advantage of that. And again you
look at the fact that Jennel Brunt said thirty six points.
Even all their starters played relatively well except for Carlon
and the talents with that minus you know, minus twenty
and plus minus. But everyone else showed up to play
and still not enough. I mean, it's it's inexcusable across
the board.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
Well, because I'll say this is like watching the first
two games, right, Like, yeah, I was saying, what do
I know about basketball? But when I see the Pacers
attack the Knicks one way in game one and attack
them a different way in game two and win both games.
You have three different players now with over thirty points
in the first two games for the Pacers, which doesn't happen.
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The Knicks look like they're reacting, and I see them
reacting slow defensively, they don't know where to be on
their rotations. Timms is getting rings coached around them by
by Rick Carlyle in this series.
Speaker 3 (19:19):
Yeah, I think Tom Thibodeau is going to team up
with JJ Ruddick pretty soon and call you out with that.
Speaker 4 (19:27):
He was terrible.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
He's going to be out of a job.
Speaker 5 (19:29):
So unless he's doing as a commentator, we'll love Danny
Hurley next year, it'll be fine.
Speaker 3 (19:33):
Okay, So here's my defensive tips. I'm not going to
say you put on a coaching quantify any means. Rick
Carlisle's been the better coach in the series. But I
would say it's also because the Pacers have had the
better roster. Now, in the regular season, the next starting
five is better than the Pacers starting five, but that
hasn't been the case of this series. And when you
add in the fact that they have more depths, it's
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kind of like, what do you expect? I mean, And
again here's why I don't put Tom thibodaut full Who
is who else is he supposed to play? Like any
calls for oh well, if only he played Cameron Payn
in a few more minutes or PJ Tucker, how about
given him some time? I don't think that does anything.
So I think it's point for better and for worse.
Like their roster, they have to bring it and if not,
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they're going to get blown out.
Speaker 1 (20:20):
No, I don't think market's about who to play. But clearly, hey,
the Pacers did you know, succeeded in Game one, and
the Knicks clearly expected something they weren't getting because from
the beginning you could tell the plan was is gonna
take over this game. Right, you don't just accidentally score
the first eleven points of the game like they knew,
we're going to take advantage of this situation. And Siakam
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has a game of his life and the Knicks didn't
know how to respond. So whatever it's like, whatever Rick
Carlisle has had, you know, has had as his play
the Knicks can adjust to. And that's what I mean
by by Tibbs is getting like he's he wasn't ready
and they couldn't adjust toe Siakam having the hot hand
and still he's opened for big threes, He's still.
Speaker 4 (20:58):
Able one on one.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
He looked like Brian Kevin durant tonight, like he was
Durantela in his prime.
Speaker 3 (21:04):
That's what tonight, Mark, You know what that that is
a fair point. You know, rotations. I don't fault tips,
but here's where of the next urt fault both coaches
and players. They got to play at their own pace.
If you're going to get in a track me with
the Pacers. It's going to be you Saint Bolt versus
Jason Smith in a foot race. That not really it's
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so lopnized out even funny. So you know, again, the
Pacers are doing this because they have the speed, they
have the depth. The Knicks they have to muck it up.
They gotta be nineties nicked. They have to be physical
and I haven't seen enough of that discipline on closeouts
as well as just being organized. You know, you don't
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have to be, you know, the fastest or most rugged
team in the world, but if you communicate you're on
the same page, you can often minimize those stakes. And again,
it's just fuddling that it was still overwhelming despite the
fact that the Knicks you know, want the rebound in
battle Tyres Halburn did not shoot the ball well their
star player Jay and Brunt has played outut of his mind.
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You add all those things up. In a normal circumstance,
that shouldn't mean a win for the next but because
of the pacing issues, it became a much different outcome.
Speaker 5 (22:19):
And Jason's already to ship cat out of town for
anybody with a near a max deal.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
This is why I'm not a good GM because I
I'm ready to make a movie Bridges before the playoffs started. Yeah,
he's he's taking them all out.
Speaker 4 (22:33):
Mark.
Speaker 3 (22:34):
Hey, you know what, Uh, we're talking about the Wolves
and their struggles. I mean maybe they swapped Julius Randall. Given,
can we get games, we'll go out.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
Yeah, we'll get Devincenzo back. Now, I'll be fine that
I'd like that.
Speaker 5 (22:45):
Trade that trade back, trade back baseball cards where someone's
parent went and figured out what the true value of Mark.
If you're gonna give that card back, Mark, If we
make that trade, it's going to be Karl Anthony Townsend
O g Hannoby for Jiannis.
Speaker 1 (22:57):
That's what's going to happen.
Speaker 4 (22:58):
Okay, just.
Speaker 3 (23:01):
Hey, you know what, I think that the Bucks should
be trading means up to Kumbo that had three first
round exits. Damian Lillard is probably not going to be back,
and if he is, he's not the same player. They're
going to be in the Hampshire Wheel. If they just say,
oh we got to keep our star player just because
so you know what, this might be a blessing the
sky Jason that just think of how sad and upset
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and angry you are right now, This just greases the
wheel for that huge deal, and then next year is
when that championship parade finally happens. I know you've heard
it before, now you're here it again. Just wait till
next year.
Speaker 5 (23:37):
If the trade that he proposes goes down, Mark I
will literally walk into the commissioner's office and say, show me,
you know, frozen envelopes, prove to me none of these
conspiracies are real. If it's oh Gianna, no, but yeah,
because that's bringing the Bucks closer to anything.
Speaker 3 (23:55):
Come on, yeah, I think they would have to trade
their whole starting to get you.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
Honest, that sounds about right now. We'll just know, we'll
keep brock Brunson and Jonnis. We'll play two one five
will be good.
Speaker 5 (24:06):
Okay, So you gave the Knicks twenty possibility of coming
back from two to ho t Wolves?
Speaker 1 (24:13):
What half that? A third that and ate that?
Speaker 4 (24:15):
What are we talking?
Speaker 3 (24:17):
Yeah? I think this is a Mary Swanson ods to
Lloyd one. Here's the thing that Thunder, they're a much
different fiece when you have the MVP with shay Gojus Alexander,
the best defensive team in the league, so many wing defenders,
great front court players, great chemistry, and they're young. You
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know what that means. They're night and day above and
beyond the challenges of the Wolves face and the playoffs
with a Golden State Warriors team that had Steph Curry
on the bench because of a hamstring injury, and a
Lakers team that didn't have any real centers and no
real defenders. So I say that with full recognition that
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the Wolves are legitimate team. They've raised their game to
another level up until this series. Julius Randall is not
the Julius Randall the New York Next of being either
ineffective or not healthy in the playoffs, and he Edwards
has grown once again as a young star in every category, scoring, shooting, passing, leadership.
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And they do have bench deff it's just not the
same kind of depth that the thunder have. And so
they're putting up a good fight. They don't lack for confidence.
It's just that, you know, the Thunder just above and
beyond ahead of the rest of the Western Conference. So
I think if it goes more than a sweep, now
it's just a gentleman's sweep because of Thunder leather Guard
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downing game career Game four. But I can't see how
this is going to be competitive the rest of the war.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
I'll go what go? You won further Market. We talked
about this last night. If I put the over under
for Oklahoma City Thunder losses the rest of this playoffs
at two and a half, I'm taking the under because
I don't think anybody out of the East can give
him a series in the finals. They're just that much
better in their proving. I think we're gonna look back
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at the end of the playoffs and go, man, how
did the Nuggets take them to seven? Like, I mean,
they're really just playing that much better?
Speaker 3 (26:14):
Yeah, well, look, I think the Pacers have shown through
each round that they're a real deal. They're respectable. I
mean they beat Cleveland even though they weren't fully healthy.
That team was still the best team in the East.
You know, they're running laps around the Knicks, and they're
not gonna beat the Thunder in a presumed NBA Finals,
but I could see them win a game or two.
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Tyres Halburn not only is the best passer in the NBA,
but you know when he's aggressive, he can be a
really lethal scorer. As we saw in Game one that
crazy shot. Stories on the line, hit the back of
the rim and dropped in. He can have those kind
of moments, but the thunder Shay is just a scoring machine.
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He does it naturally with his amazing playmaking, but he
also does it to the annoyance of opponents with finding
the angles, flailing, exaggerating and getting some SAG awards. But
he's also has a lot of good options around him,
like Jaleen Williams has become a much more consistent score
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He's prepared for that moving on and off the ball,
his pick and roll coverage chemistry with Ched Holmgren and
Isaiah Hartenstein, it's just like clockwork. And then defensively, that's
what really drives the offense. They have so many wing
defenders in case the Wallace Aux Curses, Jalen Williams Blue Door.
They create so many easy baskets because you're getting steals, deflections,
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chasing loose balls. They really don't have any weakness other
than they might not bring their a game every single night.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
So finally it's it's the end of award season.
Speaker 5 (27:50):
We saw the all NBA teams announced today SGA with
the MVP Award. Any shock in any of the first
or second team. Seeing Lebron as the second team or
any of that stand.
Speaker 3 (28:03):
Out to you. No, not really. I think what you
saw was what you expected, right, I mean Lebron's second team,
he would bat and I if it was in his prime.
But he's forty years old, so I think if anything,
that's like wow, like to still play an All Star
caliber level, it's still pretty impressive.
Speaker 1 (28:21):
So waity, don't you write a whole column about how
Bronni was completely snubbed off the All Rookie team.
Speaker 4 (28:27):
I think I thought you.
Speaker 1 (28:28):
Wrote that article.
Speaker 3 (28:29):
Yeah, you're right, You're right. I'm exposed here, I'm exposed. Yeah, Ronnie,
Ronnie Bronni should get a Max steal this upcoming summer
instead of trying to give Luca doncic to an extension,
because it's about the Lebron and Bronny show. It's not
about Luca.
Speaker 4 (28:46):
Okay, Hi, good, Just wanted to make sure. Just want
to make sure.
Speaker 1 (28:50):
You can follow on Twitter at mark G Underscore Medina.
That's at Mark G Underscore Medina Marks always buddy, appreciate it.
Great stuff. We'll talk to you next week when we
for real we preview the Pacers and the Thunder.
Speaker 3 (29:03):
Yeah, and I'm sure we'll start working shopping some more
next trade ideas.
Speaker 1 (29:08):
Yeah, very good.
Speaker 4 (29:08):
Well, no, we don't need any more.
Speaker 1 (29:10):
No, it's honest, like yeah, yeah, it's honest that that
that's the that's what's happening. There's no other trade offer
going on. It's honest.
Speaker 5 (29:16):
He's holding up his one finger like he's doctor Strange
one telling all the possibility this is.
Speaker 1 (29:22):
This is this is only a nick fan thing where
they could be in the middle of the Eastern Conference
finals and no, I want to talk about next year.
Speaker 4 (29:31):
See you buddy, have fun market all right, take it.
Speaker 1 (29:39):
I I really do feel like I am gonna be okay,
and maybe about an hour and a half from now.
Speaker 4 (29:44):
I am, I am, I am.
Speaker 1 (29:45):
You got a bowl of ice cream? Were good?
Speaker 4 (29:51):
Bowl of ice cream? Sandwich?
Speaker 1 (29:55):
No, we had a lot of cheese tonight. They had cheese, cheese,
cheez It's good now. Time to find out what's trending
right now in the wide world of sports. From someone
who's been called the Yannis of Fox Sports Radio because
New York is his favorite place to go on the road,
it is Steve de Saga.
Speaker 6 (30:15):
I thought you're gonna say, and Lebron will retire and
I'm going to LA. I will sell everything. By the way,
we have a great ballgame still going in New York.
To the bottom of the twelfth Mets and Dodgers tied
five to five. Here we're well after twelve thirty Eastern time.
There's a rain delay and the top of the third
about an hour and a half. And one of the
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reasons we are still playing is because what happened after
the rain delay. In the fourth inning, the Mets scored
on a sacrifice fly.
Speaker 4 (30:44):
Even though the.
Speaker 6 (30:45):
Runner was thrown out at the plate, the run was
awarded to New York because the Dodger third baseman Max
Munsey walked in between the sightline of the runner who
was looking out at right field waiting for the catch
to be made so he could take off. No physical
obstruction visual of construction was called on the Dodgers.
Speaker 1 (31:07):
How many times I've seen that, called, Steve, that's that's
like I see the Tuck rule never all the time, Yes, exactly,
It's just like the Tuck rum.
Speaker 6 (31:15):
So once we got to the bottom of the ninth
and the Dodgers were up five to the LA closer
who's not having a good week, Tanner Scott gave up
three runs. We've been five to five ever since. The
Dodgers in the top of the tenth had bases loaded,
but Monsey grounded into a double play to end the inning.
The Mets had a couple on and the bottom of
the tenth could not score. In the bottom of the eleventh,
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the Mets had bases loaded and a three to zero
count and wound up grounding out and leaving the runners
on base. The Dodgers are truly out of pitchers because
Luis Garcia is embarking on his second inning out of
the pen.
Speaker 1 (31:50):
Each Louise Torrens is playing first base for the Mets.
Speaker 4 (31:53):
He'll be pitching, certainly.
Speaker 1 (31:54):
Mike Sosha is catching for the Dodgers.
Speaker 6 (31:57):
They need his bat here in the Lake going of
course they.
Speaker 4 (32:02):
Yeah, they showed that.
Speaker 6 (32:04):
So each team has used eight pitchers in this game.
And this will be the Fox game tomorrow night. Yeah,
they might just sleep in the dugout and be ready
for the game tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (32:12):
Jan Soda was over eleven tonight in the game.
Speaker 4 (32:15):
For the Mets.
Speaker 6 (32:16):
He is over, that's for sure, but he's only betted fight.
Speaker 1 (32:19):
Sorry, he's left eleven runners on bass. Sorry that's what
he's done.
Speaker 6 (32:21):
Sorry, So he's got a batting average down to two
thirty six and the Mets have just loaded the bases
in the bottom of the twelve. Can we just say
this is over?
Speaker 1 (32:29):
It's like no, no, because we load, because we've loaded
the bases in the last two innings that we couldn't get.
Speaker 6 (32:35):
Out pitching in the previous sitting over.
Speaker 1 (32:39):
Wait, hold on, dude, just got down a bunt, Yeah,
Starling Martine, how about that? Just bunted for a base
hit and did not pull a hamstring those two things. Yeah,
wait a minute, he's out at first. They got to
review this, right.
Speaker 4 (32:53):
They're looking the bunt and he is.
Speaker 1 (32:57):
Yeah, he's out of that out.
Speaker 4 (32:58):
I didn't get what he wanted to do.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
Yeah, the way he got the runners over, that's all.
He's gonna be bases loaded and they're gonna walk so
to or you know, he stinks they may pitch to him.
Speaker 4 (33:06):
They may pitch too.
Speaker 1 (33:06):
He's gotta take the bat off his shoulders, shits to.
Speaker 6 (33:08):
Him underhanded, and it's that bat who knows it'll still
be only one out and the Mets on the verge
of victory at the bottom of the.
Speaker 1 (33:14):
Twelve Martea standing on first base and he's last. I
will not leave because he knows he's gonna kick all that.
Speaker 4 (33:20):
He is out of first. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (33:22):
The Angels won their eighth game in a row, seven
to four over Miami. Colorado beat the Yankees three to
two tonight, even though Aaron Judge he had his seventeenth homer.
Seattle's Col Rawley with his seventeenth home run of the season.
The MS one at Houston five to three. Saint Louis
and Minnesota with wins. The Twins hit a two run
homer bottom in the ninth edge Kansas City three to one.
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Victory's for the White Sox. In Tampa Bay, the Padres
got a solo homer in the ninth for Manny Machado
to win at Atlanta two to one. That ends San
Diego six game losing streak. Boston won the first of
a scheduled doubleheader nineteen to five over Baltimore. Game two
was rained out. They'll play a twin bill on Saturday.
Victories for San Francisco and Cleveland. Pittsburgh won in ten
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innings with two in the bottom of the tenth on
an era and a wild pitch to beat Milwaukee six
to five in ten, and the Cubs were down six
to two at Cincinnati after six innings and still beat
the Reds thirteen to six. The Indiana Pacers won at
New York one fourteen to one. Oh nine, Passcal Siakam
with thirty nine points. Pacers up two games to none
in the Eastern Conference Finals. Jalen Brunson did have thirty
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six points and eleven assists. He now has the most
thirty point playoff games in the history of the Knicks,
nineteen of him and only thirty eight postseason games in
his career. Patrick Ewing had eighteen thirty point playoff games
in almost one hundred and thirty eight playoff games in
his Knick's career.
Speaker 4 (34:42):
Oh how's that?
Speaker 1 (34:43):
Where's that gotten the Knicks in the first two games
of the series?
Speaker 6 (34:45):
Exactly?
Speaker 4 (34:46):
Okay, Okay.
Speaker 6 (34:47):
There are teams in the last decade included that had
been down two to zero in a best of seven
and after losing the first two at home, still won.
I mean, the Clippers came back Celtics and after being
down two to oh still finish the series.
Speaker 1 (35:00):
They showed up for the games they still played.
Speaker 6 (35:03):
And the Mets have just grounded into a double play.
We are going to the thirteenth inning in New York
five five Mets and Dodgers.
Speaker 4 (35:11):
My goodness, no, the game is over. No can I
say the game is over? The game is over, The
game is up. You could go home.
Speaker 1 (35:18):
I'll tell you what's trending next hour. The Dodgers bring in.
The reason that this is going to the thirteenth inning
is because the Mets can't get a hit with any
bleeping runners on base. But Dave Roberts brought Tommy edmund
in from the outfield. The Dodgers had five infielders for
that at bat with Lurise Torrens, and he grounds to
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a spot where it's an easy grab for Key k
Hernandez flipped a second first and Torrens is out by
three steps getting down the first baseline.
Speaker 4 (35:48):
Illegal shifts.
Speaker 1 (35:50):
That's Mets baseball, man. I'm telling you, this is not
my night in sports.
Speaker 3 (35:54):
This is not my night, man.
Speaker 1 (35:56):
This is where I need to call a time out,
tag out and be replaced.
Speaker 5 (35:58):
Well, you thought you were winning in the bottom of
the time and now it just keeps going. Free Baseball
Syracuse hasn't played yet this weekend. Oh no, wait, stay
tuned No, we'll lose tomorrow to Maryland in the lacrosse
Final four. We're losing the final four. We'll lose like
six to two or something crazy like that, because Maryland's
a great defensive team.
Speaker 4 (36:13):
That'll happen.
Speaker 1 (36:14):
Sure, it'll all happened.
Speaker 4 (36:15):
Who else? What other my teams? Hurricanes will get eliminated?
What else? I gotta all get all I it's all happening.
Speaker 1 (36:21):
It's all falling. I'm like, uh, I'm like uh Leo
in Wolf of Wall Street. It's all falling apart all
at once. Here comes Kyle Chandler. I'm having a stroke
trying to get my car. It's all falling apart for me.
Speaker 6 (36:33):
You're already pounding your chest.
Speaker 4 (36:35):
Look at him Twitch.
Speaker 3 (36:37):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (36:38):
Steve coming up next. Hey, it's not just Yannis. We're
talking about potentially moving on after this year. What about
Lebron James, Lebron James. That's next, Jason, Mike Fox, I'll
be losing all by myself.
Speaker 2 (37:00):
Sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith Show
with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven pm Pacific.
Speaker 1 (37:06):
Fox Sports Radio. The Jason Smith Show with My best
friend Mike Harmon yes, sir, really, not my night. In sports,
Dodgers have two in the top of the thirteenth. They
lead the Mets seven five.
Speaker 4 (37:17):
The Mets.
Speaker 1 (37:18):
I'm not lying, I'm I'm not saying anything that I'm
being The Mets have left eight runners on base in
the last three innings, no runs. And this is why
we can't have nice.
Speaker 4 (37:29):
Just like when I say you deserve to lose, you
deserve to lose. Not my night. This is not my night,
Mike Garment, not mine.
Speaker 5 (37:35):
You know what, You'll get up and get after it again.
Tomorrow you'll stop and maybe you'll get a donut. Not
my night, nice big coffee, not my night. You'll sing
some show tunes in life will be better.
Speaker 1 (37:46):
So we talked about potentially Yannis being on his way
to the Knicks. You know, certainly Karl Anthony Town's getting
benched in the fourth quarter tonight. It's not quite been
the season that the Knicks have expected from. Karl Anthony Town.
Speaker 4 (38:02):
Got shut down.
Speaker 1 (38:03):
I think it started out how they thought it was
going to, but it just didn't. I don't think that
they said I think they expected this offense and and
Carl Anthony Towns to be a little bit different spot
right now than it is and getting bench with a
fourth quarter. Wow, man, I go with Mitchell Robinson all
the way.
Speaker 5 (38:19):
You basically saying we don't need offense now, we need
someone who's gonna get at least give us some modicum
of extra effort.
Speaker 1 (38:26):
I mean it is you know that that really that's
really something. It's really something when you're number two guy,
he's bench with the entire fourth quarter. So yeah, could
I see a Karl Anthony Towns Anernobe type deal for you? Yeah? Absolutely,
I can see that for you, honest.
Speaker 5 (38:40):
But the other one that they say that forty five times,
it just magically by saying it one more time.
Speaker 4 (38:47):
Will it happen? Uh?
Speaker 1 (38:48):
The other thing is, and we told you this a
couple of weeks ago, get ready for this to be
the last year in LA for Lebron. A couple of
reports in The Athletic also sam Ammick that Lebron's relationship
with the Lakers is quote a frosty one. This is
something that came out earlier. Today's relationship with the Lakers
is frosty. And you know, potentially there's always a chance
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he can walk.
Speaker 4 (39:14):
Now.
Speaker 1 (39:14):
I don't think that's gonna happen. He's not going to
turn his back on fifty million dollars. He's not going
to get that from somebody else. But short of a
Western Conference Finals run next year, this is it, we
told you this year is it for Lebron in LA.
They have already hit Frosty, They've already put him at
arms length. He has already been someone that look, you
don't run the team anymore. They trade ad. You and
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Rich Paul don't have the pull that you once did,
so Lebron is kind of on the outsider.
Speaker 5 (39:41):
Now.
Speaker 1 (39:41):
The Lakers aren't going to simply just say, okay, we're
gonna do it now, rip the bed and no. They
want to give Lebron and Luca more than two months
to get something go because maybe it works out. But
clearly I see this short of a Western Conference Finals
appearance next year, and that might not even be enough.
Lebron is finishing his career the last couple of years
someplace else, probably Cleveland. And he is finishing his career
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someplace else. It's not LA.
Speaker 5 (40:06):
One year, fifty two million dollars, no trade clause, one
of the rare contracts in the NBA. He's taken swipes
at the front office, go back to a d right.
Speaker 6 (40:15):
Ah.
Speaker 1 (40:16):
And you know the last guy that talked about big Man,
he got traded.
Speaker 4 (40:19):
So no, I'm not gonna do that.
Speaker 5 (40:21):
Should you know what advice you're gonna give Luca about,
you know, helping to build and whatever. I don't have
any advice for him, right, That's not my thing to
talk about that. So he's distanced himself in every respect,
and certainly Luca coming to town realizing you have to
pass the torch not doing it quite so gracefully. He's
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gonna keep taking little baby steps to make Luca chase
him to take it. But certainly the frosty relationship that
does not surprise me, something we talked about weeks ago.
As you start reading the tea leaves of how they're
constructing twenty twenty five, twenty six one and done.
Speaker 1 (40:57):
For lebron in La and then Hello Cleveland, I'm back
to finish it off.
Speaker 4 (41:01):
Me and Bronnie and Bryce, We're all here.
Speaker 1 (41:04):
Coming up next more on the biggest story of the night.
Speaker 4 (41:07):
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