June 14, 2025 • 41 mins
Jason and Mike are joined to open hour 3 by NBA insider Mark Medina to discuss all of the biggest storylines coming out of Game 4 of the NBA Finals, as well as weigh in on the Knicks' head coach search. Then, they react to sound from Rick Carlisle's postgame presser where he addresses the loss. Plus, Stephen A. Smith caught playing solitaire on his phone during Game 4!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:23):
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Speaker 1 (00:29):
Greetings, Welcome in side our three, The Jason Smith Show
with my best friend Mike Harmon Live for the Fox
Sports Radio Studios, where we just watch the NBA Finals
get a whole heck of a lot more interesting. The
Thunder pull out Game four thanks to two things, SGA
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turning into the MVP and Scott Foster extending the series
with various calls and non calls the final two minutes
of this game. That really, I did my job, helped
usher the Thunder along to win this one.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
He's doing the full Jack Nicholson. I did my job.
I'll do it again.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
I mean look, just to recap here, we got Mark
Medina stop and buy in a minute. This is a
this is a nip tuck game. In the final two
minutes and you saw lou Dort get away with a
clear foul when he shoves Tyrese Haliburton out of the
way so we can step in and pick off a pass.
You got two non calls on Sga who clearly just
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absolutely pushed off with his entire off arm and hit
two jumpers, and then the two fouls away from the
ball as the Thunder were inbounding two free three throws
at different times in the final two minutes for the Thunder.
That's eight points, right, eight points and up the Thunder
to their seven point victory one eleven, one oh four.
Joining us now, I'm the hotline. A man who was
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called this morning to say, hey, can you officiate this game?
Mark Badina? They see he said no, no, no, call
Scott Foster instead. It is sports keta Athlon CBSTV, NBA insider,
longtime front of the show, Mark Medina.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
What's happening man? How are you?
Speaker 4 (02:09):
Hey? Davison looks let's just throw this out here. Shay
goes Alexander, showing signs of Michael Jordan both for scre
and Brilliants, then getting away with a bush off.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
I'll tell you getting away with more than that.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
I mean, this is the two biggest performances in this game,
Mark shake Gilders Alexander the final five minutes and Scott
Foster the final five minutes.
Speaker 4 (02:28):
Oh, look, you want to extend the series. Maybe it
increases the ratings even more. Get some less talk on
the Knicks, and they're terrible coaching, search, so you gotta
pull out, all out, all the stops when the sticks
are high.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
All right, So look this game, it looked like it
would look he was going the Pacers way in the
final five and a half minutes. Look, this is where
SGA shows everybody, I'm the best player in the league
right now, I'm the MVP. Like, they were not going
to win this game unless he steps up in the
final five and a half minutes.
Speaker 3 (02:59):
To be able to.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
Do that in a night that is not your night
is So it's incredibly impressive because he was having a
bad night. Rare's twenty points on twenty one shots whatever
it was, and all of a sudden, Yeah no, I
got this fourteen to the last sixteen.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
Like that's what MVPs do.
Speaker 4 (03:13):
Yeah, that's what MVP is doing. Look, he did get
away with some calls, but I think the bigger thing
about Shay Gildess Alexander is. He's really talented and most
of his free throws are earned of, you know, knowing
how to be aggressive, knowing how to play the angles,
and when you look in the first half, he was
not doing that at all. He had literally zero free
throws in the first half, and a lot of that
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has been Andrew Imphart's great defense on him, also Shay
not being aggressive enough. But you know, to your point,
he almost pulled the tyres Halburton that he's been pulling
during this playoff run for you know, when the going
gets tough, when they need to make a late game comeback,
the ball is in his hands. But it's a different
context because Shay is the MVP, he's a better player,
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and he's known for scoring, and they really need it
because we've seen time and time again to pay are
not a joke. They're a legitimate team. They've they've earned
their appearance here, even if it's been at the expense
of your beloved Knicks, and they play as well as
it as any team would hope for in terms of depth.
So the Thunder have to match that. But when they
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don't have that consistently, you got to have your best player,
just elevate your game, and that's what Shade did. It
wasn't technically must win because it's two to one, but
I would say it was must win. As he said
after the game, a two to two serious tie as
much different than mid down three one.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
Yeah, So let's let's go into the officiating part of
things here, Mark, how many bullet points do you have
for the final two minute review? That feeling that the
SGA thing is part of what offensive players when you
were one of the quote greats, you're going to get
away with that stuff. The lou Dort won to me
still just doesn't pass a whole lot of muster at
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mid court when he took Haliburton into the fourth row.
Speaker 4 (04:54):
Yeah, especially loud Dort did that at the beginning of
the game. You might recall about that. I think mission
accomplished because it was rattling tyres. But yeah, the officials
have to see everything. But I think I think from
a procedural standpoint, the Pacers will certainly submit their issues.
That's what teams always do after every single game. But
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I think Rick Carlisle is one of many coaches that
preach to his team about playing through the whistle and
understanding that, especially in a playoff game, things aren't going
your way and so you have to be very president
I think a bigger thing that Rick Carlisle has leaned
onto is this court from Steve Nash during his playing career,
where he said something along the lines of when you win,
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you feel like you'll never stop winning. When you lose,
you feel like you can never stop losing in the playoffs,
And he was talking about, you know the other day,
how he's talked to his team about guarding against that
feeling of both invincibility after win and hopelessness after a loss,
because things can very much change in a playoff game,
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and same thing applies to officiated.
Speaker 3 (06:01):
Oh no, that's my whole life is a Knicks fan,
except the first part.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
You never feel like you're gonna lose when you're winning.
I don't feel that first part. It's just why I
never feel like we're gonna win again.
Speaker 4 (06:11):
If you don't remind me, Jason, I have to ask
you a question. Being a reporter, can you confirm or
deny that the Knicks fast are friends and boss of
Fox Sports Radio for permission to interview for the job
this week?
Speaker 1 (06:22):
Well, listen Mark when when Tims got fired that first night,
I said, Mike Brown.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
Mike Brown's the guy.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
The offensive system fits the defensive system he has. You're
going to get them to play better defense. He's coached
in big markets, He's coached big stars. He fits with
everything the Knicks want to do. I could have called
James Dole and say, hey, dude, fifty just send me
a check for fifty grand.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
I'll tell you who to talk to. Right, what do
you get the first two guys?
Speaker 1 (06:47):
Then we get free, and we get the whole week
to the whole week, and we're gonna call for permission
of teams that are going to say no. And what
do we find out today, Hey, they're gonna officially talk
to Mike Brown next week. Like I could run the Knicks.
I could have run this entire coaching search for fifty
grand and they would have zero embarrassment. I think I
need to be forget about head coach May. I got
to stay higher than that. I got to start thinking, hey,
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Leon Rose, you got to step aside because I could
run this thing better than you.
Speaker 4 (07:12):
Yeah, so I guess that it was denied the request.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
Well no, but Mike Brown, I'll get to talk to.
Speaker 4 (07:18):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm with you. I mean, it's
one thing to do due diligence, but the way they're
going after coaches that are either still in the playoffs
or have had a lot of success, that just reeked
of someone deskper on the dating apps. So I had
right on all the supermodels and hoping that one of them. So, yeah,
it didn't make any sense. And I agree that when
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you're looking at coaches that are actually available that would
actually fit this criteria of helping the next sketches championship level,
Mike Brown's at the top of the list. People might
say Michael Malone because he won a championship two years ago.
But one, he is very similar with Tom Thibodeau his
coaching style, So if you have a problem with Tibbs,
you'd have a problem with Michael Malone. And two, I
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want to be surprised even the nature of his firing
with the Nuggets, that he would clash with Knicks management.
Mike Brown, he's a really good coach. He's very assertive,
but he is a very good team player. But I
think as far as his coaching shops go, you know,
he's been experienced he's been championship tested, and I think
that knowing how Mike operates when he's looked at coaching vacancies,
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it hasn't just been anything. It's always been about will this,
you know, opportunity to give me a chance to compete
for a championship? And obviously it does. And he's known
for being a defensive oriented coach, so that's good. But
I think the very underrated thing is that he's really
innovated offensively during his time with the Sacramento Kings because
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of the personnel that they have, and so I think
because of the time that he was with Golden State,
he's been able to refine his coaching style a little
bit more where it's not just defensive heavy, it's not
all these prolonged film studies and practices. He's been able
to find a good blend of knowing when to dial
it back and also be a little bit more creative
on all offense set. I think that he can hit
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both buttons there.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
That's good because I had Taylor Jenkins in the betting
pool here to the fact that I can't put anything
on Cat or Brunson's legs to make them play defense.
So let's just go full in on the offensive side
of the ball.
Speaker 4 (09:16):
Yeah, and you know what, that's very well might what
might happen. But I think that even if it's incremental
improvement defensively, that can go a long way. I know
that Jason Smith is trying to figure out all the
different scenarios to get Jannathanta Tokompo. I don't know if
that's going to happen. But even if the Knicks just
improve on the more margins with supporting casts, all those
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little things add up, and I think that when you're
looking at this playoff runt, specifically with the Pacers, that's
the best example. You need to have role players that
can elevate their game on a consistent night. You need
your you know, kind of tear rotation guys that you
know what you're going to get on a nice to
night basis, and maybe some surprise wild cards. And you know,
that's the factor in this series obviously, so Jason's disappointment
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that was a factor in the Pacers next series. So
we'll see what happens the summer.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
You know, Mark, One of the things, just going back
to the initial search, I would want to know, did
they do it internally? Or did they hire a head
hunting firm, because the head hunting firm is always going
to go to people that have jobs because they would
seem to be better than those on the unemployment line, right,
So that that might have been where they went, or
they were just trying to sow the seeds of malcontentedness
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within these other organizations that maybe someone had a wandering
eye and it would cause a rift and fall to
and make them fall away.
Speaker 4 (10:34):
I guess, But you have to know the landscape. I mean,
there's a difference between do and due diligence than just
throwing shots in the dark, right, And when you throw
shots in the dark and you're asking for permission for
permission from teams that you know don't seem like they
would actually give permission, it can rub those teams the
(10:55):
wrong way, and that can hurt in trade negotiations moving forward.
So I know that there is a process when it
comes to finding the right candidates. At least the initial week.
It did not look good for the next for how
they handled the beginning of the coaching search, especially considering
they fire Thibodeau whether you liked his coaching or not,
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after being in an Eastern Conference finals for the first
time in twenty five years.
Speaker 3 (11:20):
Again, Mark for fifty grand.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
I could have called Dolan a week ago or Mike
Brown and none of this happens. Fifty grand for three
minutes worth of work. I'm not overcharged. I mean it
would have been easy.
Speaker 4 (11:31):
Yeah, but they would have probably forced you to be
the head coach, and then that would have prevented you
from me being able to do your usual routine of
rooting for the next one far and also taking shots
at JJ Reddick on the radio. But you know, no,
I could coach a Nicks to try it out, coach him.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
No, I could coach the Nicks via surrogate. I could like, yeah, like,
I could coach the Knicks early and then do the
show right out.
Speaker 3 (11:54):
I could do that.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
Hey, gott lead coaches and does a show every day.
I could coach the Knicks up.
Speaker 3 (11:58):
From you know, three thousand miles. The way I can
win pauses, I just fill the air for the rest
of the segment. When he needs to go yell at
a guy for loafing on defense.
Speaker 4 (12:07):
Hang on, then you know, we can just cut this segment.
Senator James Doone could help with recruiting pitches people listen
to Fox Sports Tray, especially the NBA player so jj
Reddick United, Jason Smith, a lot of players as that
it would help the negotiations because players would want to
play for you reference.
Speaker 3 (12:28):
To and by name yesterday, yeah and say hey, I
love that guy. Oh I hate that guy. I mean,
I get it.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
I'm not everybody's cup of tea, but I'll get enough
people that want to come play for me. Mark. You know,
I think you're right another another life, maybe never not
that that could happen for me. Now, look now you
mentioned Giannis, and we saw reports today that it seems
like Jannis may stay in Milwaukee for now.
Speaker 3 (12:48):
I look at this as saying, you know, I.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
Don't know that big stars are generally going to hit
free agency or demand a trade before free agency begins.
Like I like, looking at the landscape, I see someone
like Yiannis or whoever else, but Yannis today obviously is
like he wants to see what are the teams doing
and when they if they figure out, figure things out,
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if they're a finished product. Yes, now I can say
I want to get Delton. That's team I want to
go to. Because the beginning of free agency it sort
of makes it more difficult. Okay, we're going to make
the move for you, but now you have to fill
in around you, and that might not work. And you know,
all of a sudden, you're you're on a team that
may not have the supporting cast you need. I think
players like Giannis might wait now and then forget about
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the beginning of free agent. Let's wait till the very
end when I see what teams do as teams position
to be able to get me to have a complete team.
Like that's when you see someone like Yanna say, Okay,
now I want to get traded.
Speaker 4 (13:44):
Yeah. I mean it's a tough it's a tough, delicate
thing here, because in Yanni's case, he could be the
domino that changes the whole course of free agency, And
so waiting it out almost contradicts that. I do understand
and agree generally with what you're outlining on why it
would make it would make sense for both parties to wait.
And I think you know this is this is just me.
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The Bucks will tell you and you honest will tell
you they want to keep it going that you know
it's just about improving on the margins. I'm just saying
this with logic here, they've lost in the first round
three years in a row. Damian Lillard is probably not
playing next season. If he is, he's not going to
be the same player because that's just what the Achilles
injuries are, and so this idea of improving on the
margins isn't going to do anything. But I think it's
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just it's just tough to say, for your honest because
of what he's done for the franchise, who he is
as a person, to just be like, you know what,
trade me and I think for the Bucks same thing,
because he's a franchise player, he drives a lot of revenue,
the feeling of okay, starting over. But I think logically
they should and will make the decision. You know what,
This is better off for both parties, both in the
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short and long term, and therefore this conversation I think
will change on Draft night and then leading into free agency.
I would understand your point waiting for the dominoes to
fall in July under normal circumstances, but because of the
context with the Bucks these last three years, and because
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he could be the main person that changes the landscape,
I think that's going to be the first order of
business with free agency. But you know what, we'll see Jason.
You were a coveted Knicks coach for a reason, so
he might be onto something.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
Let me tweet this out. Mark Medina says night one
a free agency, Yannis for cat and a first round pick.
Speaker 3 (15:36):
He's at Mark G underscore.
Speaker 4 (15:38):
Madena Rose in your interview what he got in the job?
Speaker 1 (15:43):
I got you a head coach and I got you Yannis.
Speaker 3 (15:45):
Come on, what else can do I do?
Speaker 1 (15:48):
On Twitter at Mark G Underscore Medina again Sports Key
to Athlon, CBSTV. Mark is always buddy, appreciated man. We'll
talk to you next week.
Speaker 4 (15:55):
Appreciate you, guys, say Mark big egos.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
Mark madeen a great stuff from him. Yeah. I mean, look,
people know me, Mike, I can call I could be
the pied piper. I can bring the right people to coach.
JJ Reddick would never be my assistant, but I could
bring people.
Speaker 3 (16:08):
No, but think about all the guys that we've now
ferreted out over time, not just counting you know, radio
people and their producers, but coaches, front office people. I mean,
we've expanded, we are a global enterprise and now we
just need you know, the the recognition of such you know,
with all those fancy awards up on the wall. So
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let's make that happen, even if you have to print
them yourself. Or like Tyshirt's figured out the spacing and
all that, we could have him do it. Oh I
like that.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
I like that idea. Let's let's tye. That'll give Tyson
a reason to pay attention to the show.
Speaker 3 (16:42):
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Speaker 5 (16:47):
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Speaker 1 (16:58):
Yes, Happy Friday the thirteenth for those who celebrate. But
coming up next, Rick Carlyle is speaking. I told you
before the post game he was gonna lose his mind?
Speaker 3 (17:11):
Did he?
Speaker 1 (17:13):
We'll find out together. That's coming up next. Right here,
we'll hear from Rick, Carlile, Jason, and Mike as we
break down Game four of the NBA Finals. This is
five Sports Radio.
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Okay, it's a movie where you know, here's future movie
killers like Jason and Michael and Pinhead and Freddie like
go to some college where they learned how to how
to how to kill people?
Speaker 3 (19:04):
They did this Indeespicable Me, did they? Oh, that's it
really was the first one? No? No, no, it's it's
like the most recent. I think they go back to
the school. Oh, I didn't see. There's like a villain thing.
The guy turns himself into a cockroach in this world.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
But there's like turning into a villain. Then there's leg Hey,
we're going to show you all the different knives you
can use with how to Kill Ball.
Speaker 3 (19:23):
That's great.
Speaker 1 (19:23):
Here's different things you can wear to be your signature outfit,
whether it's a hockey mask or your head is full
of pins or a William Shatner mask.
Speaker 3 (19:32):
You know, I mean we do all kinds of things.
What do you want to wear? Red and green sweater
with stripes on it?
Speaker 1 (19:35):
Like we'll help you pick that out to Like you
have a fashion course, you have a you have a
weapons course. You have like uh a battle courses, like
we actually fight with other people. You learn different moves,
like how to crush people's heads and how to do
I mean like that's like a thing, that's a movie.
Speaker 3 (19:52):
Okay, No, I'm with you. I think I think it works.
But now I'm racking my brain. I think it was. Yeah,
it was a class reunion at is high school where
he reunites with these uh the guy who's mad and
it's played by Will Ferrell. He's a former classmate who's
mad at him for stealing his talent show act and
the song song gets to play big and it goes
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from there, so you get and it had a honey
Badger in it. This is a completely different movie, completely
different movie. No, but but but we did have a
school for villains. This is just a little different. This
now becomes a how to book that puts you on
on lists.
Speaker 1 (20:31):
Our movie is called Armageddon. It's about we we teach
oil drillers about astronauts to go knock these these big
meteors out there gonna blow up the world. Okay.
Speaker 3 (20:42):
Our movie is called.
Speaker 1 (20:43):
Deep Impact and there's another meteor coming to blow up
the world.
Speaker 3 (20:46):
Except this one strikes. Oh. Two completely different movies. Yeah,
I think I think we can have a good opportunity
as long as you don't have a bunch of little
yellow guys running around part one, So leave them out,
that's good. Yeah, if we're live action, leave the animation
just for the you know, the see I'm thinking.
Speaker 1 (21:07):
I'm thinking like more like a Harry Potter School for Gifted,
you know, potential movie homicidal killers.
Speaker 3 (21:14):
Like I'm thinking.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
That's what i'm you know, that's where'm at right now.
Speaker 3 (21:16):
Oh good, yeah, no, I am with you. No, this
is good. I mean, and the accompanying graphic novels will
be big hits.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
Oh yeah, yeah, I got just gotta wait for Harry
Potter Fall in the public domain will be absolutely fine.
But yes, happy Friday the thirteenth.
Speaker 3 (21:31):
Hopefully you are watching a million off shoots already.
Speaker 1 (21:33):
But like Friday the thirteenth, which was a ripoff of Halloween,
but that's just it.
Speaker 3 (21:39):
It's like that Simpsons episode and this guy is just
a ripoff of that guy and that guy.
Speaker 1 (21:47):
And you know, enjoy this Friday the thirteenth because it
is the only Friday the thirteenth of the year.
Speaker 3 (21:52):
Wow, this is it. You only have a couple hours
to make it happen. If you're on the East coast.
You already you lost. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
And and also, by the way, Jason, for he's birthday,
He's born June thirteenth, nine to nineteen forty six?
Speaker 3 (22:06):
Is that what it was?
Speaker 1 (22:06):
He's seventy nine today, Jason, how about that? I mean,
that's a pretty happy birthday, Jason Warhies.
Speaker 3 (22:11):
I like the gifts today, of I like the gypts today.
Speaker 1 (22:14):
Of like Jason trying to blow out a cake, but
he can't blow the candles out.
Speaker 3 (22:18):
Because hes got the hockey mascot. He's trying to blow
the candles. So does he pull out the machete and
just chop the uh oh yeah, yeah, you just chopped
the cake and the flame goes off because he's got
so much torque. And as Molcolm says, is okay, that's okay.
Speaker 1 (22:32):
Now I'll cut the cake for everybody.
Speaker 3 (22:33):
Jason, thank you, thank you for helping.
Speaker 1 (22:35):
Here we go.
Speaker 3 (22:36):
Here's you calady done.
Speaker 1 (22:37):
Milton, please pass the cake, past the cake, and pass
the cake.
Speaker 3 (22:41):
But last time there was cake, I didn't get any
and I was promised, please pat just pass the cake. Milton.
Milton plant passed the.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
Cakeley so the pacers looked like they were gonna take
a three games to one lead. They were up by
ten second half, and suddenly, thanks to SGA and some
four two it is officiating, the Thunder come from behind
to beat the Pacers one eleven one oh four. And
I mean it. There are five really bad calls actually
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four and one questionable one all in the final minute
and a half that favored the Thunder gave them eight
points on their way to this seven point victory. And
I said, right, okay, Rick Carlisle's not going to be
able to help himself. He is going to go absolutely
crazy in the postgame and wonder what the hell happened
in the final couple of months, because you saw him.
He was not happy with some of this stuff. You
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could see the f bombs and the curse words flying
out of his mouth when he would yell at the
officials for some of those calls that were made or
not made in the final two minutes.
Speaker 3 (23:43):
Well, I mean you go through it, though, Jason. I
mean it's in the front of the home crowd, so
that certainly is going to exacerbate issues like we can't
even get these on the home court. Although if you
go back and watch games one and two in Oklahoma City.
You might think they had a friendly whistle at times
to get back into games. So it all balances. But
tell that to a coach in the moment as he's
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watching a lead dissipate and he's not His guys are
not responding and all their things that made them the
team they are, you know, fourth quarter excellence has gone
out the window.
Speaker 1 (24:15):
So let's see did Rick Carlisle lose his mind or
was he much more subdued with a series tide going
back to Oklahoma City. He just met the media a
few moments ago. Let's listen to a couple of minutes
of the Pacers head coach.
Speaker 3 (24:31):
Yeah, we got stagnant.
Speaker 6 (24:33):
Their second shots were a big problem. When you were
unable to rebound, you it's hard to continue to play
with pace and tempo. I haven't looked at the at
the end of the game yet, so I don't have
the blow by blow.
Speaker 3 (24:44):
For you credit. Stop right there, boo boo, what do
you mean?
Speaker 1 (24:49):
I haven't looked at the tape at the end of
the game. You saw some of those Oh come on,
manrazle yet? Yeah, because Rick Carlile has gone into postgame
press conference before having seen all the video and ripping
the officials for calls that were made and not made.
I haven't seen the end of the game yet.
Speaker 3 (25:10):
Come on, man, I've got expenses. I don't need a fine.
Who are you?
Speaker 1 (25:15):
What have you done with Rick Carlyle? Come on, man,
that's not the Rick Carlile.
Speaker 3 (25:18):
That's not good at all. Boo's dancing like he was
back like Robert Carlyle in the Full Money. Come on, man,
let's hear from a little bit more of the Pacers.
Speaker 1 (25:28):
Head coach.
Speaker 6 (25:29):
I don't have the blow by blow for you, but
give them credit. You know, they kept attacking, kept attacking,
and their defense was great down the stretch.
Speaker 3 (25:37):
Rick, you are had twenty assists in the first three
quarters but only one in the fourth. What do you
think caused that?
Speaker 6 (25:42):
A lot of the same stuff I was just talking about.
An inability to come up with rebounds and inability to
get key stops was a part of it. And then
you know, we just got too stagnant. You know, the
ball was not being advanced quickly enough, we weren't creating problems,
and we were up against the clock a lot, so
things got very difficult. But you got to give Oklahoma credit.
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I mean, they they made it very difficult.
Speaker 7 (26:05):
Rick, from the very beginning of the series, you've talked
about how it's an eighteen day grind. How important is
that mindset now that you know but it's at least
going six and that you've prepared yourself for one that's
going to go either pretty close to the end or
to the ultimate end.
Speaker 6 (26:17):
I mean, it's you know, it's it's it's the ultimate effort, endeavor,
whatever you want to call it. I mean, it's it's long,
it's arduous, but it's it's the greatest opportunity going. You know,
it's the greatest opportunity going. And it's it's really hard,
and it's supposed to be hard. You know, It's just
it's supposed to be hard. And this is where you know,
we're going to have to We're gonna have to dig
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in and circle the wagons and come back stronger on Monday.
This was this a big disappointment, But there's three games left.
We're going to look at the film tomorrow and then travel.
You know, they had thirty eight free throws and that
was a problem. They made thirty four to thirty eight.
We had thirty three and made twenty five. You know
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they missed for we mean missed eight, you know those
The difference of wars is significant. You know, there's a
lot of little things going on three four, but it's
the series is gonna come down to the basics, and
our inability to effectively rebound when we needed to is
the biggest thing.
Speaker 3 (27:19):
You know.
Speaker 6 (27:19):
Forty three to thirty three and a bunch of second
chance points, you know, made it, made it difficult and
in the end impossible.
Speaker 1 (27:27):
So come on, well he was given every operating Rick,
I'm I'm gonna toss this up for I'm gonna set
it like you're in a volleyball game and you're Goose
or Iceman. Well, no, Goose didn't, didn't spike it. You're Iceman,
You're Maverick, and you're you're gonna spike it over that
you had every chance. Yeah, well you know the free throws.
They had thirty eight, you know, but you know we
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had thirty three, and well, you know, the difference of
four is.
Speaker 3 (27:51):
A big deal.
Speaker 1 (27:52):
It's like, oh wow, man, Like Rick, Carla, really, what
happened to you?
Speaker 3 (27:56):
Man? I'm disappointed. I was waiting for him to pull
out the Adam Silver you know, I know, over a
one point five billion impressions on social media through the
first three games. Like, I mean, he was like he
was trying to sell me a car. Everything's great, everything's awesome.
You know, you know, shucks, we just didn't get it
done in the fourth. Uh, you know we were stagnant,
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but like the most positive you could ever do instead
of an ass chewing of your team, Come on, man,
get fired up. The disappointment just someone needed to double
back on the officiating disappointment. I know you haven't seen it,
but here and they hold up their phone and there's
the Dort play.
Speaker 1 (28:39):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, hey Rick Jason Smith, hang on,
I got I got a phone. Hang on, I'm sorry.
This is a Lonzo's home run against the Brewers. Hanging
let me find it all right, here you go, here
you go. Here's the lout Dort play. H what do you?
Just look at it and tell me what you think
of it? Right, just tell me you think just right now,
just right, just watch it. Everybody's okay with any thing.
Just watch it right hang sorry, hang on, hang on,
here's my password. Okay, here you're not now watch it
right there?
Speaker 3 (28:58):
There you go, and if you if you don't want
to answer. Let me hook this up to your finger.
What's this. It's gonna check your pulse. Now, I'm gonna
show you that video again. And you don't not to
say a word, Rick, you don't have to say a
word because a picture's gonna be worth a thousand, a
thousand of them. And then you watch his heart rate accelerate.
It's like, say, Rick was not happy with the officiating people,
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he was not happy. I have the results right here.
I mean, I mean, and this is how weird is this?
Speaker 1 (29:27):
Usually Rick Carlos complains about the officiating and I say, dude,
be quiet, shut up, what do you do. You're ridiculous.
You're just trying to sit here and play the game
and try to win. Win the referees over You're ridiculous.
Now Here, I am saying, Rick, what do you got, man,
you gotta have something. I can't believe they made those
calls into the game. And now he's saying, yeah, you
know they Hey, they made it tough on us at
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the end, and you know that we missed a couple
of free throats, Like hey, this is like Freaky Friday.
Speaker 3 (29:52):
And like we're Lindsey Lohan and Jamie Lee Kerkz. We
banged heads and we suddenly changed bodies. I would have
liked it more if he'd say, sometimes you win, sometimes you.
Speaker 1 (30:05):
You don't, although you know that, we would have really
switched bodies. If I'm saying this about Rick Carlyle and
they say to Rick Rica, what'd you think in the
fourth quarter?
Speaker 3 (30:13):
What was the big key?
Speaker 1 (30:14):
Oh? Sorry, I was the Mets had given up six
runs in the sixth inning of the Rays.
Speaker 3 (30:19):
Paul Blackburn came in. He was terrible. I was kind
of watching that, so I didn't say it. I was
playing Candy Crush on my phone. I met no, come on,
I don't come on. I'm not Stephen A. Smith and
his way.
Speaker 1 (30:28):
Well, then was that video of him playing playing Solitaire
while the game was going on, Like he's playing free
cell on his phone while the game is going on,
He's watching the key play free Cell.
Speaker 3 (30:42):
I'm trying to do the Daily Challenge. Come on to
the Daily Challenge.
Speaker 1 (30:45):
I'm trying to win this number deal, all right, I
gotta try to get a queen to the to the
rack within seventy five moves.
Speaker 3 (30:51):
I got I got some stuff to do here.
Speaker 1 (30:52):
Man. I can't I.
Speaker 3 (30:53):
Can't spend time watching the game. Somebody put that up
on Twitter. It's got two point three million views.
Speaker 1 (30:59):
I mean that's I mean, that's I mean, I I
Here's the thing is that look obviously it looks like
it's real. Right, it looks like it's really you think
it is. But but you know, obviously that's something that
can be maneuvered around. But boy, it looks Wow. I'm
telling you, man, I mean that just that.
Speaker 3 (31:15):
Optic of him. Wait from Steven A. Smith on Twitter.
Oh wait wait ready, yeah that's me. Who would have
thought I can multitask, especially during timeouts. Hope you all
enjoy the NBA Finals. Oh in seven games now, peeps. Yeah, no,
that's verified that. It's from his verified account.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
And he actually put up a picture of the It's
like a picture and picture of him watching the game
with free Cell on top of it.
Speaker 3 (31:47):
It's a good chess match, right, Oh it is him?
Speaker 1 (31:49):
Okay, good, I know it's him.
Speaker 3 (31:51):
Okay, So now I can say that's just ridiculous. Come on, man, you're.
Speaker 1 (31:54):
At the game and you're watching it and you're playing
free Cell, right, you're playing. You're not talking to your
co you're not talking, you're predu like, come on, man,
you're playing I get once in a while, you check
your phone. Look, this is what life is now, man,
I get it. You check your phone, you're talking to
somebody else, You're sending a text to a friend. I
get it. But now, but to go to the extent
of I'm gonna play free Cell in the Middle.
Speaker 3 (32:16):
League, I think, come on, man, come on, that's how
you know you have inked a one hundred million dollar deal.
That is iron glass oh.
Speaker 1 (32:25):
Man, locked in on fat side. That's a that's one
hundred million dollar free cell game right there. That's that's
Steve and ay oh boy exit out about a Fresca
exit swollen dome. Time not to find out what's trending
in the wide world of sports from someone who's been
called the Jason Vorghes of Fox Sports Radio. At one
time we thought he was dead. We shot him off
into space.
Speaker 3 (32:45):
And he came back. It's Steve to say, shot him
off in the space.
Speaker 8 (32:48):
Was that what twelfth fourteenth movie?
Speaker 3 (32:52):
Ten? Was Jason in Space? That was number ten?
Speaker 8 (32:54):
Well, you know, I thought they'd run out of ideas.
After five, Oklahoma City took Game four. Who are the
NBA Finals coming back at Indiana one eleven to one
oh fourth under were down seven early in the fourth
quarter Game five, Ian Okac on Monday Night shake Giljis
Alexander thirty five points this evening, fifteen in the last
five minutes of the game. Jalen Williams with twenty seven
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points by the way in the first five minutes, Pacers
scored twenty points. They had, as mentioned, the seven point
lead early in the fourth SGA with nine straight points
down the stretch for the winners. In the WNBA two games,
Atlanta now seven and three, beat Chicago eighty eight seventy.
Ryan Howard thirty six points from three point range. She
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was nine of nineteen, and Dallas is now won and
eleven this season after losing a close one at Las
Vegas eighty eight eighty four. Page Beckers of Dallas to
have sixteen points. She had returned on Wednesday and scored
thirty five after missing four games due to concussion and illness.
Indiana's Caitlin Clark is due to return on Saturday after
missing five games with a string quad. Sam Burns leads
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by one stroke at the US Open. The Giants have
tied the Dodgers for first place in the NLS San Diego,
still two back, Padres lost five to one at Arizona.
Giants were six two winners in La Logan Webb over
Yoshino Yamamoto. The Dodger losing pitcher allowed two early homers,
including a grand slam. The late games at Seattle. It's
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now Mariners seven to over Cleveland in the bottom of
the eighth, already wins for Houston and the A's wins
for Atlanta and Texas. Milwaukee sent Saint Louis to a
six straight loss three to two, six straight losses for Washington.
Miami's beat them a long night with a long rain delay,
eleven nine Marlins the final. Boston in ten edged the
Yankees two to one, and Tampa Bay was a seven
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to five winner at the Mets, who had won six straight.
Speaker 3 (34:49):
Back to you, Thank you, STEVEO.
Speaker 1 (34:50):
Jason Smith, Mike Harmon live from the Fox Sports Radio Studios. Yeah,
we'll have more on Solitaire Gate coming up as we
continue to break down the NBA Finals. I mean, it
is just that is just absolutely I can't get over that.
I really can't get over that. Keep it right here.
Happy Friday, Happy Friday, the thirteenth. Jason and Mike Fox
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Speaker 2 (35:15):
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Speaker 1 (35:22):
Radio The Jason Smith Show with My best friend Mike Harmon.
Speaker 5 (35:26):
Oh yeah, eh, Tyja just loves that part too.
Speaker 3 (35:32):
Killer.
Speaker 1 (35:32):
The guy goes down the stairs forever.
Speaker 3 (35:34):
It's awesome, It's a beautiful day.
Speaker 1 (35:37):
Look a late breaking story in the last few minutes.
It now has millions of views on social media.
Speaker 3 (35:44):
Steven A.
Speaker 1 (35:44):
Smith on the set for ESPN tonight, you know, game
four of the NBA Finals, and there was a screen
grab taken of him from behind which shows him during
the game on his phone playing Solitaire. Wait wait what yeah?
Speaker 3 (35:59):
This is during the gay Wait wait is this real?
This happened?
Speaker 1 (36:01):
It was shared a lot, and Stephen A. Smith doubled
down on it a few minutes ago as Mike brought us.
He went to his Twitter page said yep, that's me.
Who knew I could multitask during timeouts?
Speaker 3 (36:13):
And then he put up another.
Speaker 1 (36:14):
Picture of a picture and picture of him watching the
NBA Finals with Solitaire on the same screen. Right. Look,
very rarely do I like to talk about other talking
heads and other people who do stuff because everybody's got
their own thing, right, But this is, this is so
unbelievably this, this is so obtuse by Steven A. Smith,
(36:37):
even for him who has shown before. Hey, I don't
mind making news for showing I don't know what I'm
talking about. I don't know play. I didn't know that
this player hadn't been on the Chargers in six years.
I was still saying Dan Fouts is a great quarterback. Right,
But this is, yes, the way life goes now. People
check their phones all the time, right, It's one thing
to check your phone very quickly you need something. Look,
(36:58):
Adam schefters And has made a cottage industry of being
on the set doing a segment on NFL Live. Right,
I gotta check my phone just because I gotta look busy. Right,
Everybody checks their phones. Everybody sends quick text while they're working.
Even Mike and I are doing things here. Hey, we
go into a break or something, Hey to send a
quick text, make a quick phone call. Look, that's what
life is, right, this is how it goes. But there's
(37:19):
a difference between I'm going to I'm sending I'm texting
with someone, or I'm on the internet to find something
out whatever. I want to find out the score of
another game or something else, or I am whatever it is, I'm.
Speaker 3 (37:31):
Doing something quick on my phone.
Speaker 1 (37:33):
There's a difference between that and just being apparently so
bored and unplugged that I'm gonna play Solitaire on my
phone right like I play Solitaire on my kindlele. I'm
watching TV during the day. If i'm if Fox sends
me to the bleep in NBA Finals, I'm not, and
I'm watching the game that I know I'm gonna have
(37:53):
to talk about after. There's certain things that I know
I'm not going to do, and playing playing a video
game my phone is one of them. But that clearly
shows you that, Look, I don't care. I'm bored and
this game can't hold my attention. Because even if he's
right when he's saying, it's during a time out. Okay,
this is why I got to run to my phone
(38:14):
to play a game while there's a time out on
the floor. Oh sorry, I have to watch I have
to go play Solitaire. Oh I'm so I can't wait,
because Solitaire is this new game sweeping the nation, right,
like I can't this brand new game solitary play with
a deck of cards and you do a red card
and a blackguard and a red card to blacker. This
is unbelievable. Like, that's so, that's so insulting. It's so
insulting to ESPN, it's insulting to the NBA Finals. It's
(38:36):
insulting to people who do what he does for a living.
It's insulting to the fans. Oh yeah, yeah, I'm a
highly paid broadcaster and I can't be I can't be
even counted on to just not do something embarrassing like
play a video game. Right, How would you feel like
if your kids in school and they're supposed to be
learning and they're playing a game on their phone, you're
mad at them, you know, Hey, listen, you can't do that.
Speaker 3 (38:58):
That's what.
Speaker 1 (38:59):
No, no, But I don't care because I'm teflon. I
have a huge contract, and people pay attention to me.
Whether I say things that that make sense or say
things that make no sense, what do I care? And
I'm so unplugged from the situation that it really doesn't
matter to me. I'm gonna go play Solitaire on my phone.
It's so unbelievably insulting to so many people.
Speaker 3 (39:19):
Somebody wrote, f yi, I can't check my phone because
it's a rotary phone. I know, well played still waiting. No, look,
it's it's a terrible look, whether it's in a time
out or not. But again that's the to the victor
(39:43):
goes to spoils. It's like SGA getting a call that
you could argue is a should be an offensive fall
and a push off. Well, star rules right. In this case,
It's been proven time and again. You can change players,
change them back to teams they played on a deck
day to go, change which players they are quarterbacking or
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maybe shooting a jump shot, and it really hasn't mattered.
If anything, it's helped fuel the beast that exists. So
why stop now. I do like the fact that it
wasn't ai or photoshopped. They say, oh, I gotcha. I mean,
it's not know what Carlisle gave us. Carlisle gave us nothing.
Oh wonderful tonight. It was all great and it was
(40:27):
our guys. I mean, really, we just didn't execute. Well, no,
give me some fire at least Steve and I went
my bad.
Speaker 1 (40:36):
Sorry, I know you want to know what happened At
the six minute mark of the fourth quarter. But that's
where I was. I was so close. I only had
five moves left to get a king to the to
the free cell, and so I really need to make
that happen. So I'm sorry I missed that. But somebody
else can talk about it. Ah, what do I care.
Barkley and Shock and everyone. They're showing up next year.
They don't give a crap. I don't care.
Speaker 3 (40:55):
They're gonna be running stuff anyway, don't It doesn't matter
to me. Oh no, he's not seating his chair. Let's
not get get too much
Speaker 1 (41:02):
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Speaker 1 (00:29):
Greetings, Welcome in side our three, The Jason Smith Show
with my best friend Mike Harmon Live for the Fox
Sports Radio Studios, where we just watch the NBA Finals
get a whole heck of a lot more interesting. The
Thunder pull out Game four thanks to two things, SGA
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turning into the MVP and Scott Foster extending the series
with various calls and non calls the final two minutes
of this game. That really, I did my job, helped
usher the Thunder along to win this one.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
He's doing the full Jack Nicholson. I did my job.
I'll do it again.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
I mean look, just to recap here, we got Mark
Medina stop and buy in a minute. This is a
this is a nip tuck game. In the final two
minutes and you saw lou Dort get away with a
clear foul when he shoves Tyrese Haliburton out of the
way so we can step in and pick off a pass.
You got two non calls on Sga who clearly just
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absolutely pushed off with his entire off arm and hit
two jumpers, and then the two fouls away from the
ball as the Thunder were inbounding two free three throws
at different times in the final two minutes for the Thunder.
That's eight points, right, eight points and up the Thunder
to their seven point victory one eleven, one oh four.
Joining us now, I'm the hotline. A man who was
(01:55):
called this morning to say, hey, can you officiate this game?
Mark Badina? They see he said no, no, no, call
Scott Foster instead. It is sports keta Athlon CBSTV, NBA insider,
longtime front of the show, Mark Medina.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
What's happening man? How are you?
Speaker 4 (02:09):
Hey? Davison looks let's just throw this out here. Shay
goes Alexander, showing signs of Michael Jordan both for scre
and Brilliants, then getting away with a bush off.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
I'll tell you getting away with more than that.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
I mean, this is the two biggest performances in this game,
Mark shake Gilders Alexander the final five minutes and Scott
Foster the final five minutes.
Speaker 4 (02:28):
Oh, look, you want to extend the series. Maybe it
increases the ratings even more. Get some less talk on
the Knicks, and they're terrible coaching, search, so you gotta
pull out, all out, all the stops when the sticks
are high.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
All right, So look this game, it looked like it
would look he was going the Pacers way in the
final five and a half minutes. Look, this is where
SGA shows everybody, I'm the best player in the league
right now, I'm the MVP. Like, they were not going
to win this game unless he steps up in the
final five and a half minutes.
Speaker 3 (02:59):
To be able to.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
Do that in a night that is not your night
is So it's incredibly impressive because he was having a
bad night. Rare's twenty points on twenty one shots whatever
it was, and all of a sudden, Yeah no, I
got this fourteen to the last sixteen.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
Like that's what MVPs do.
Speaker 4 (03:13):
Yeah, that's what MVP is doing. Look, he did get
away with some calls, but I think the bigger thing
about Shay Gildess Alexander is. He's really talented and most
of his free throws are earned of, you know, knowing
how to be aggressive, knowing how to play the angles,
and when you look in the first half, he was
not doing that at all. He had literally zero free
throws in the first half, and a lot of that
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has been Andrew Imphart's great defense on him, also Shay
not being aggressive enough. But you know, to your point,
he almost pulled the tyres Halburton that he's been pulling
during this playoff run for you know, when the going
gets tough, when they need to make a late game comeback,
the ball is in his hands. But it's a different
context because Shay is the MVP, he's a better player,
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and he's known for scoring, and they really need it
because we've seen time and time again to pay are
not a joke. They're a legitimate team. They've they've earned
their appearance here, even if it's been at the expense
of your beloved Knicks, and they play as well as
it as any team would hope for in terms of depth.
So the Thunder have to match that. But when they
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don't have that consistently, you got to have your best player,
just elevate your game, and that's what Shade did. It
wasn't technically must win because it's two to one, but
I would say it was must win. As he said
after the game, a two to two serious tie as
much different than mid down three one.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
Yeah, So let's let's go into the officiating part of
things here, Mark, how many bullet points do you have
for the final two minute review? That feeling that the
SGA thing is part of what offensive players when you
were one of the quote greats, you're going to get
away with that stuff. The lou Dort won to me
still just doesn't pass a whole lot of muster at
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mid court when he took Haliburton into the fourth row.
Speaker 4 (04:54):
Yeah, especially loud Dort did that at the beginning of
the game. You might recall about that. I think mission
accomplished because it was rattling tyres. But yeah, the officials
have to see everything. But I think I think from
a procedural standpoint, the Pacers will certainly submit their issues.
That's what teams always do after every single game. But
(05:15):
I think Rick Carlisle is one of many coaches that
preach to his team about playing through the whistle and
understanding that, especially in a playoff game, things aren't going
your way and so you have to be very president
I think a bigger thing that Rick Carlisle has leaned
onto is this court from Steve Nash during his playing career,
where he said something along the lines of when you win,
(05:38):
you feel like you'll never stop winning. When you lose,
you feel like you can never stop losing in the playoffs,
And he was talking about, you know the other day,
how he's talked to his team about guarding against that
feeling of both invincibility after win and hopelessness after a loss,
because things can very much change in a playoff game,
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and same thing applies to officiated.
Speaker 3 (06:01):
Oh no, that's my whole life is a Knicks fan,
except the first part.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
You never feel like you're gonna lose when you're winning.
I don't feel that first part. It's just why I
never feel like we're gonna win again.
Speaker 4 (06:11):
If you don't remind me, Jason, I have to ask
you a question. Being a reporter, can you confirm or
deny that the Knicks fast are friends and boss of
Fox Sports Radio for permission to interview for the job
this week?
Speaker 1 (06:22):
Well, listen Mark when when Tims got fired that first night,
I said, Mike Brown.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
Mike Brown's the guy.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
The offensive system fits the defensive system he has. You're
going to get them to play better defense. He's coached
in big markets, He's coached big stars. He fits with
everything the Knicks want to do. I could have called
James Dole and say, hey, dude, fifty just send me
a check for fifty grand.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
I'll tell you who to talk to. Right, what do
you get the first two guys?
Speaker 1 (06:47):
Then we get free, and we get the whole week
to the whole week, and we're gonna call for permission
of teams that are going to say no. And what
do we find out today, Hey, they're gonna officially talk
to Mike Brown next week. Like I could run the Knicks.
I could have run this entire coaching search for fifty
grand and they would have zero embarrassment. I think I
need to be forget about head coach May. I got
to stay higher than that. I got to start thinking, hey,
(07:09):
Leon Rose, you got to step aside because I could
run this thing better than you.
Speaker 4 (07:12):
Yeah, so I guess that it was denied the request.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
Well no, but Mike Brown, I'll get to talk to.
Speaker 4 (07:18):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm with you. I mean, it's
one thing to do due diligence, but the way they're
going after coaches that are either still in the playoffs
or have had a lot of success, that just reeked
of someone deskper on the dating apps. So I had
right on all the supermodels and hoping that one of them. So, yeah,
it didn't make any sense. And I agree that when
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you're looking at coaches that are actually available that would
actually fit this criteria of helping the next sketches championship level,
Mike Brown's at the top of the list. People might
say Michael Malone because he won a championship two years ago.
But one, he is very similar with Tom Thibodeau his
coaching style, So if you have a problem with Tibbs,
you'd have a problem with Michael Malone. And two, I
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want to be surprised even the nature of his firing
with the Nuggets, that he would clash with Knicks management.
Mike Brown, he's a really good coach. He's very assertive,
but he is a very good team player. But I
think as far as his coaching shops go, you know,
he's been experienced he's been championship tested, and I think
that knowing how Mike operates when he's looked at coaching vacancies,
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it hasn't just been anything. It's always been about will this,
you know, opportunity to give me a chance to compete
for a championship? And obviously it does. And he's known
for being a defensive oriented coach, so that's good. But
I think the very underrated thing is that he's really
innovated offensively during his time with the Sacramento Kings because
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of the personnel that they have, and so I think
because of the time that he was with Golden State,
he's been able to refine his coaching style a little
bit more where it's not just defensive heavy, it's not
all these prolonged film studies and practices. He's been able
to find a good blend of knowing when to dial
it back and also be a little bit more creative
on all offense set. I think that he can hit
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both buttons there.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
That's good because I had Taylor Jenkins in the betting
pool here to the fact that I can't put anything
on Cat or Brunson's legs to make them play defense.
So let's just go full in on the offensive side
of the ball.
Speaker 4 (09:16):
Yeah, and you know what, that's very well might what
might happen. But I think that even if it's incremental
improvement defensively, that can go a long way. I know
that Jason Smith is trying to figure out all the
different scenarios to get Jannathanta Tokompo. I don't know if
that's going to happen. But even if the Knicks just
improve on the more margins with supporting casts, all those
(09:37):
little things add up, and I think that when you're
looking at this playoff runt, specifically with the Pacers, that's
the best example. You need to have role players that
can elevate their game on a consistent night. You need
your you know, kind of tear rotation guys that you
know what you're going to get on a nice to
night basis, and maybe some surprise wild cards. And you know,
that's the factor in this series obviously, so Jason's disappointment
(10:01):
that was a factor in the Pacers next series. So
we'll see what happens the summer.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
You know, Mark, One of the things, just going back
to the initial search, I would want to know, did
they do it internally? Or did they hire a head
hunting firm, because the head hunting firm is always going
to go to people that have jobs because they would
seem to be better than those on the unemployment line, right,
So that that might have been where they went, or
they were just trying to sow the seeds of malcontentedness
(10:27):
within these other organizations that maybe someone had a wandering
eye and it would cause a rift and fall to
and make them fall away.
Speaker 4 (10:34):
I guess, But you have to know the landscape. I mean,
there's a difference between do and due diligence than just
throwing shots in the dark, right, And when you throw
shots in the dark and you're asking for permission for
permission from teams that you know don't seem like they
would actually give permission, it can rub those teams the
(10:55):
wrong way, and that can hurt in trade negotiations moving forward.
So I know that there is a process when it
comes to finding the right candidates. At least the initial week.
It did not look good for the next for how
they handled the beginning of the coaching search, especially considering
they fire Thibodeau whether you liked his coaching or not,
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after being in an Eastern Conference finals for the first
time in twenty five years.
Speaker 3 (11:20):
Again, Mark for fifty grand.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
I could have called Dolan a week ago or Mike
Brown and none of this happens. Fifty grand for three
minutes worth of work. I'm not overcharged. I mean it
would have been easy.
Speaker 4 (11:31):
Yeah, but they would have probably forced you to be
the head coach, and then that would have prevented you
from me being able to do your usual routine of
rooting for the next one far and also taking shots
at JJ Reddick on the radio. But you know, no,
I could coach a Nicks to try it out, coach him.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
No, I could coach the Nicks via surrogate. I could like, yeah, like,
I could coach the Knicks early and then do the
show right out.
Speaker 3 (11:54):
I could do that.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
Hey, gott lead coaches and does a show every day.
I could coach the Knicks up.
Speaker 3 (11:58):
From you know, three thousand miles. The way I can
win pauses, I just fill the air for the rest
of the segment. When he needs to go yell at
a guy for loafing on defense.
Speaker 4 (12:07):
Hang on, then you know, we can just cut this segment.
Senator James Doone could help with recruiting pitches people listen
to Fox Sports Tray, especially the NBA player so jj
Reddick United, Jason Smith, a lot of players as that
it would help the negotiations because players would want to
play for you reference.
Speaker 3 (12:28):
To and by name yesterday, yeah and say hey, I
love that guy. Oh I hate that guy. I mean,
I get it.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
I'm not everybody's cup of tea, but I'll get enough
people that want to come play for me. Mark. You know,
I think you're right another another life, maybe never not
that that could happen for me. Now, look now you
mentioned Giannis, and we saw reports today that it seems
like Jannis may stay in Milwaukee for now.
Speaker 3 (12:48):
I look at this as saying, you know, I.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
Don't know that big stars are generally going to hit
free agency or demand a trade before free agency begins.
Like I like, looking at the landscape, I see someone
like Yiannis or whoever else, but Yannis today obviously is
like he wants to see what are the teams doing
and when they if they figure out, figure things out,
(13:12):
if they're a finished product. Yes, now I can say
I want to get Delton. That's team I want to
go to. Because the beginning of free agency it sort
of makes it more difficult. Okay, we're going to make
the move for you, but now you have to fill
in around you, and that might not work. And you know,
all of a sudden, you're you're on a team that
may not have the supporting cast you need. I think
players like Giannis might wait now and then forget about
(13:34):
the beginning of free agent. Let's wait till the very
end when I see what teams do as teams position
to be able to get me to have a complete team.
Like that's when you see someone like Yanna say, Okay,
now I want to get traded.
Speaker 4 (13:44):
Yeah. I mean it's a tough it's a tough, delicate
thing here, because in Yanni's case, he could be the
domino that changes the whole course of free agency, And
so waiting it out almost contradicts that. I do understand
and agree generally with what you're outlining on why it
would make it would make sense for both parties to wait.
And I think you know this is this is just me.
(14:06):
The Bucks will tell you and you honest will tell
you they want to keep it going that you know
it's just about improving on the margins. I'm just saying
this with logic here, they've lost in the first round
three years in a row. Damian Lillard is probably not
playing next season. If he is, he's not going to
be the same player because that's just what the Achilles
injuries are, and so this idea of improving on the
margins isn't going to do anything. But I think it's
(14:28):
just it's just tough to say, for your honest because
of what he's done for the franchise, who he is
as a person, to just be like, you know what,
trade me and I think for the Bucks same thing,
because he's a franchise player, he drives a lot of revenue,
the feeling of okay, starting over. But I think logically
they should and will make the decision. You know what,
This is better off for both parties, both in the
(14:50):
short and long term, and therefore this conversation I think
will change on Draft night and then leading into free agency.
I would understand your point waiting for the dominoes to
fall in July under normal circumstances, but because of the
context with the Bucks these last three years, and because
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he could be the main person that changes the landscape,
I think that's going to be the first order of
business with free agency. But you know what, we'll see Jason.
You were a coveted Knicks coach for a reason, so
he might be onto something.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
Let me tweet this out. Mark Medina says night one
a free agency, Yannis for cat and a first round pick.
Speaker 3 (15:36):
He's at Mark G underscore.
Speaker 4 (15:38):
Madena Rose in your interview what he got in the job?
Speaker 1 (15:43):
I got you a head coach and I got you Yannis.
Speaker 3 (15:45):
Come on, what else can do I do?
Speaker 1 (15:48):
On Twitter at Mark G Underscore Medina again Sports Key
to Athlon, CBSTV. Mark is always buddy, appreciated man. We'll
talk to you next week.
Speaker 4 (15:55):
Appreciate you, guys, say Mark big egos.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
Mark madeen a great stuff from him. Yeah. I mean, look,
people know me, Mike, I can call I could be
the pied piper. I can bring the right people to coach.
JJ Reddick would never be my assistant, but I could
bring people.
Speaker 3 (16:08):
No, but think about all the guys that we've now
ferreted out over time, not just counting you know, radio
people and their producers, but coaches, front office people. I mean,
we've expanded, we are a global enterprise and now we
just need you know, the the recognition of such you know,
with all those fancy awards up on the wall. So
(16:30):
let's make that happen, even if you have to print
them yourself. Or like Tyshirt's figured out the spacing and
all that, we could have him do it. Oh I
like that.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
I like that idea. Let's let's tye. That'll give Tyson
a reason to pay attention to the show.
Speaker 3 (16:42):
Hi wach so.
Speaker 5 (16:47):
Oh thirteenth Exit, Alvata Fresca Exit, swallow down, the Jason
Special and Mike Garment.
Speaker 1 (16:58):
Yes, Happy Friday the thirteenth for those who celebrate. But
coming up next, Rick Carlyle is speaking. I told you
before the post game he was gonna lose his mind?
Speaker 3 (17:11):
Did he?
Speaker 1 (17:13):
We'll find out together. That's coming up next. Right here,
we'll hear from Rick, Carlile, Jason, and Mike as we
break down Game four of the NBA Finals. This is
five Sports Radio.
Speaker 3 (17:23):
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Speaker 1 (18:48):
Okay, it's a movie where you know, here's future movie
killers like Jason and Michael and Pinhead and Freddie like
go to some college where they learned how to how
to how to kill people?
Speaker 3 (19:04):
They did this Indeespicable Me, did they? Oh, that's it
really was the first one? No? No, no, it's it's
like the most recent. I think they go back to
the school. Oh, I didn't see. There's like a villain thing.
The guy turns himself into a cockroach in this world.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
But there's like turning into a villain. Then there's leg Hey,
we're going to show you all the different knives you
can use with how to Kill Ball.
Speaker 3 (19:23):
That's great.
Speaker 1 (19:23):
Here's different things you can wear to be your signature outfit,
whether it's a hockey mask or your head is full
of pins or a William Shatner mask.
Speaker 3 (19:32):
You know, I mean we do all kinds of things.
What do you want to wear? Red and green sweater
with stripes on it?
Speaker 1 (19:35):
Like we'll help you pick that out to Like you
have a fashion course, you have a you have a
weapons course. You have like uh a battle courses, like
we actually fight with other people. You learn different moves,
like how to crush people's heads and how to do
I mean like that's like a thing, that's a movie.
Speaker 3 (19:52):
Okay, No, I'm with you. I think I think it works.
But now I'm racking my brain. I think it was. Yeah,
it was a class reunion at is high school where
he reunites with these uh the guy who's mad and
it's played by Will Ferrell. He's a former classmate who's
mad at him for stealing his talent show act and
the song song gets to play big and it goes
(20:15):
from there, so you get and it had a honey
Badger in it. This is a completely different movie, completely
different movie. No, but but but we did have a
school for villains. This is just a little different. This
now becomes a how to book that puts you on
on lists.
Speaker 1 (20:31):
Our movie is called Armageddon. It's about we we teach
oil drillers about astronauts to go knock these these big
meteors out there gonna blow up the world. Okay.
Speaker 3 (20:42):
Our movie is called.
Speaker 1 (20:43):
Deep Impact and there's another meteor coming to blow up
the world.
Speaker 3 (20:46):
Except this one strikes. Oh. Two completely different movies. Yeah,
I think I think we can have a good opportunity
as long as you don't have a bunch of little
yellow guys running around part one, So leave them out,
that's good. Yeah, if we're live action, leave the animation
just for the you know, the see I'm thinking.
Speaker 1 (21:07):
I'm thinking like more like a Harry Potter School for Gifted,
you know, potential movie homicidal killers.
Speaker 3 (21:14):
Like I'm thinking.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
That's what i'm you know, that's where'm at right now.
Speaker 3 (21:16):
Oh good, yeah, no, I am with you. No, this
is good. I mean, and the accompanying graphic novels will
be big hits.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
Oh yeah, yeah, I got just gotta wait for Harry
Potter Fall in the public domain will be absolutely fine.
But yes, happy Friday the thirteenth.
Speaker 3 (21:31):
Hopefully you are watching a million off shoots already.
Speaker 1 (21:33):
But like Friday the thirteenth, which was a ripoff of Halloween,
but that's just it.
Speaker 3 (21:39):
It's like that Simpsons episode and this guy is just
a ripoff of that guy and that guy.
Speaker 1 (21:47):
And you know, enjoy this Friday the thirteenth because it
is the only Friday the thirteenth of the year.
Speaker 3 (21:52):
Wow, this is it. You only have a couple hours
to make it happen. If you're on the East coast.
You already you lost. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
And and also, by the way, Jason, for he's birthday,
He's born June thirteenth, nine to nineteen forty six?
Speaker 3 (22:06):
Is that what it was?
Speaker 1 (22:06):
He's seventy nine today, Jason, how about that? I mean,
that's a pretty happy birthday, Jason Warhies.
Speaker 3 (22:11):
I like the gifts today, of I like the gypts today.
Speaker 1 (22:14):
Of like Jason trying to blow out a cake, but
he can't blow the candles out.
Speaker 3 (22:18):
Because hes got the hockey mascot. He's trying to blow
the candles. So does he pull out the machete and
just chop the uh oh yeah, yeah, you just chopped
the cake and the flame goes off because he's got
so much torque. And as Molcolm says, is okay, that's okay.
Speaker 1 (22:32):
Now I'll cut the cake for everybody.
Speaker 3 (22:33):
Jason, thank you, thank you for helping.
Speaker 1 (22:35):
Here we go.
Speaker 3 (22:36):
Here's you calady done.
Speaker 1 (22:37):
Milton, please pass the cake, past the cake, and pass
the cake.
Speaker 3 (22:41):
But last time there was cake, I didn't get any
and I was promised, please pat just pass the cake. Milton.
Milton plant passed the.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
Cakeley so the pacers looked like they were gonna take
a three games to one lead. They were up by
ten second half, and suddenly, thanks to SGA and some
four two it is officiating, the Thunder come from behind
to beat the Pacers one eleven one oh four. And
I mean it. There are five really bad calls actually
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four and one questionable one all in the final minute
and a half that favored the Thunder gave them eight
points on their way to this seven point victory. And
I said, right, okay, Rick Carlisle's not going to be
able to help himself. He is going to go absolutely
crazy in the postgame and wonder what the hell happened
in the final couple of months, because you saw him.
He was not happy with some of this stuff. You
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could see the f bombs and the curse words flying
out of his mouth when he would yell at the
officials for some of those calls that were made or
not made in the final two minutes.
Speaker 3 (23:43):
Well, I mean you go through it, though, Jason. I
mean it's in the front of the home crowd, so
that certainly is going to exacerbate issues like we can't
even get these on the home court. Although if you
go back and watch games one and two in Oklahoma City.
You might think they had a friendly whistle at times
to get back into games. So it all balances. But
tell that to a coach in the moment as he's
(24:04):
watching a lead dissipate and he's not His guys are
not responding and all their things that made them the
team they are, you know, fourth quarter excellence has gone
out the window.
Speaker 1 (24:15):
So let's see did Rick Carlisle lose his mind or
was he much more subdued with a series tide going
back to Oklahoma City. He just met the media a
few moments ago. Let's listen to a couple of minutes
of the Pacers head coach.
Speaker 3 (24:31):
Yeah, we got stagnant.
Speaker 6 (24:33):
Their second shots were a big problem. When you were
unable to rebound, you it's hard to continue to play
with pace and tempo. I haven't looked at the at
the end of the game yet, so I don't have
the blow by blow.
Speaker 3 (24:44):
For you credit. Stop right there, boo boo, what do
you mean?
Speaker 1 (24:49):
I haven't looked at the tape at the end of
the game. You saw some of those Oh come on,
manrazle yet? Yeah, because Rick Carlile has gone into postgame
press conference before having seen all the video and ripping
the officials for calls that were made and not made.
I haven't seen the end of the game yet.
Speaker 3 (25:10):
Come on, man, I've got expenses. I don't need a fine.
Who are you?
Speaker 1 (25:15):
What have you done with Rick Carlyle? Come on, man,
that's not the Rick Carlile.
Speaker 3 (25:18):
That's not good at all. Boo's dancing like he was
back like Robert Carlyle in the Full Money. Come on, man,
let's hear from a little bit more of the Pacers.
Speaker 1 (25:28):
Head coach.
Speaker 6 (25:29):
I don't have the blow by blow for you, but
give them credit. You know, they kept attacking, kept attacking,
and their defense was great down the stretch.
Speaker 3 (25:37):
Rick, you are had twenty assists in the first three
quarters but only one in the fourth. What do you
think caused that?
Speaker 6 (25:42):
A lot of the same stuff I was just talking about.
An inability to come up with rebounds and inability to
get key stops was a part of it. And then
you know, we just got too stagnant. You know, the
ball was not being advanced quickly enough, we weren't creating problems,
and we were up against the clock a lot, so
things got very difficult. But you got to give Oklahoma credit.
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I mean, they they made it very difficult.
Speaker 7 (26:05):
Rick, from the very beginning of the series, you've talked
about how it's an eighteen day grind. How important is
that mindset now that you know but it's at least
going six and that you've prepared yourself for one that's
going to go either pretty close to the end or
to the ultimate end.
Speaker 6 (26:17):
I mean, it's you know, it's it's it's the ultimate effort, endeavor,
whatever you want to call it. I mean, it's it's long,
it's arduous, but it's it's the greatest opportunity going. You know,
it's the greatest opportunity going. And it's it's really hard,
and it's supposed to be hard. You know, It's just
it's supposed to be hard. And this is where you know,
we're going to have to We're gonna have to dig
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in and circle the wagons and come back stronger on Monday.
This was this a big disappointment, But there's three games left.
We're going to look at the film tomorrow and then travel.
You know, they had thirty eight free throws and that
was a problem. They made thirty four to thirty eight.
We had thirty three and made twenty five. You know
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they missed for we mean missed eight, you know those
The difference of wars is significant. You know, there's a
lot of little things going on three four, but it's
the series is gonna come down to the basics, and
our inability to effectively rebound when we needed to is
the biggest thing.
Speaker 3 (27:19):
You know.
Speaker 6 (27:19):
Forty three to thirty three and a bunch of second
chance points, you know, made it, made it difficult and
in the end impossible.
Speaker 1 (27:27):
So come on, well he was given every operating Rick,
I'm I'm gonna toss this up for I'm gonna set
it like you're in a volleyball game and you're Goose
or Iceman. Well, no, Goose didn't, didn't spike it. You're Iceman,
You're Maverick, and you're you're gonna spike it over that
you had every chance. Yeah, well you know the free throws.
They had thirty eight, you know, but you know we
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had thirty three, and well, you know, the difference of
four is.
Speaker 3 (27:51):
A big deal.
Speaker 1 (27:52):
It's like, oh wow, man, Like Rick, Carla, really, what
happened to you?
Speaker 3 (27:56):
Man? I'm disappointed. I was waiting for him to pull
out the Adam Silver you know, I know, over a
one point five billion impressions on social media through the
first three games. Like, I mean, he was like he
was trying to sell me a car. Everything's great, everything's awesome.
You know, you know, shucks, we just didn't get it
done in the fourth. Uh, you know we were stagnant,
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but like the most positive you could ever do instead
of an ass chewing of your team, Come on, man,
get fired up. The disappointment just someone needed to double
back on the officiating disappointment. I know you haven't seen it,
but here and they hold up their phone and there's
the Dort play.
Speaker 1 (28:39):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, hey Rick Jason Smith, hang on,
I got I got a phone. Hang on, I'm sorry.
This is a Lonzo's home run against the Brewers. Hanging
let me find it all right, here you go, here
you go. Here's the lout Dort play. H what do you?
Just look at it and tell me what you think
of it? Right, just tell me you think just right now,
just right, just watch it. Everybody's okay with any thing.
Just watch it right hang sorry, hang on, hang on,
here's my password. Okay, here you're not now watch it
right there?
Speaker 3 (28:58):
There you go, and if you if you don't want
to answer. Let me hook this up to your finger.
What's this. It's gonna check your pulse. Now, I'm gonna
show you that video again. And you don't not to
say a word, Rick, you don't have to say a
word because a picture's gonna be worth a thousand, a
thousand of them. And then you watch his heart rate accelerate.
It's like, say, Rick was not happy with the officiating people,
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he was not happy. I have the results right here.
I mean, I mean, and this is how weird is this?
Speaker 1 (29:27):
Usually Rick Carlos complains about the officiating and I say, dude,
be quiet, shut up, what do you do. You're ridiculous.
You're just trying to sit here and play the game
and try to win. Win the referees over You're ridiculous.
Now Here, I am saying, Rick, what do you got, man,
you gotta have something. I can't believe they made those
calls into the game. And now he's saying, yeah, you
know they Hey, they made it tough on us at
(29:48):
the end, and you know that we missed a couple
of free throats, Like hey, this is like Freaky Friday.
Speaker 3 (29:52):
And like we're Lindsey Lohan and Jamie Lee Kerkz. We
banged heads and we suddenly changed bodies. I would have
liked it more if he'd say, sometimes you win, sometimes you.
Speaker 1 (30:05):
You don't, although you know that, we would have really
switched bodies. If I'm saying this about Rick Carlyle and
they say to Rick Rica, what'd you think in the
fourth quarter?
Speaker 3 (30:13):
What was the big key?
Speaker 1 (30:14):
Oh? Sorry, I was the Mets had given up six
runs in the sixth inning of the Rays.
Speaker 3 (30:19):
Paul Blackburn came in. He was terrible. I was kind
of watching that, so I didn't say it. I was
playing Candy Crush on my phone. I met no, come on,
I don't come on. I'm not Stephen A. Smith and
his way.
Speaker 1 (30:28):
Well, then was that video of him playing playing Solitaire
while the game was going on, Like he's playing free
cell on his phone while the game is going on,
He's watching the key play free Cell.
Speaker 3 (30:42):
I'm trying to do the Daily Challenge. Come on to
the Daily Challenge.
Speaker 1 (30:45):
I'm trying to win this number deal, all right, I
gotta try to get a queen to the to the
rack within seventy five moves.
Speaker 3 (30:51):
I got I got some stuff to do here.
Speaker 1 (30:52):
Man. I can't I.
Speaker 3 (30:53):
Can't spend time watching the game. Somebody put that up
on Twitter. It's got two point three million views.
Speaker 1 (30:59):
I mean that's I mean, that's I mean, I I
Here's the thing is that look obviously it looks like
it's real. Right, it looks like it's really you think
it is. But but you know, obviously that's something that
can be maneuvered around. But boy, it looks Wow. I'm
telling you, man, I mean that just that.
Speaker 3 (31:15):
Optic of him. Wait from Steven A. Smith on Twitter.
Oh wait wait ready, yeah that's me. Who would have
thought I can multitask, especially during timeouts. Hope you all
enjoy the NBA Finals. Oh in seven games now, peeps. Yeah, no,
that's verified that. It's from his verified account.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
And he actually put up a picture of the It's
like a picture and picture of him watching the game
with free Cell on top of it.
Speaker 3 (31:47):
It's a good chess match, right, Oh it is him?
Speaker 1 (31:49):
Okay, good, I know it's him.
Speaker 3 (31:51):
Okay, So now I can say that's just ridiculous. Come on, man, you're.
Speaker 1 (31:54):
At the game and you're watching it and you're playing
free Cell, right, you're playing. You're not talking to your
co you're not talking, you're predu like, come on, man,
you're playing I get once in a while, you check
your phone. Look, this is what life is now, man,
I get it. You check your phone, you're talking to
somebody else, You're sending a text to a friend. I
get it. But now, but to go to the extent
of I'm gonna play free Cell in the Middle.
Speaker 3 (32:16):
League, I think, come on, man, come on, that's how
you know you have inked a one hundred million dollar deal.
That is iron glass oh.
Speaker 1 (32:25):
Man, locked in on fat side. That's a that's one
hundred million dollar free cell game right there. That's that's
Steve and ay oh boy exit out about a Fresca
exit swollen dome. Time not to find out what's trending
in the wide world of sports from someone who's been
called the Jason Vorghes of Fox Sports Radio. At one
time we thought he was dead. We shot him off
into space.
Speaker 3 (32:45):
And he came back. It's Steve to say, shot him
off in the space.
Speaker 8 (32:48):
Was that what twelfth fourteenth movie?
Speaker 3 (32:52):
Ten? Was Jason in Space? That was number ten?
Speaker 8 (32:54):
Well, you know, I thought they'd run out of ideas.
After five, Oklahoma City took Game four. Who are the
NBA Finals coming back at Indiana one eleven to one
oh fourth under were down seven early in the fourth
quarter Game five, Ian Okac on Monday Night shake Giljis
Alexander thirty five points this evening, fifteen in the last
five minutes of the game. Jalen Williams with twenty seven
(33:17):
points by the way in the first five minutes, Pacers
scored twenty points. They had, as mentioned, the seven point
lead early in the fourth SGA with nine straight points
down the stretch for the winners. In the WNBA two games,
Atlanta now seven and three, beat Chicago eighty eight seventy.
Ryan Howard thirty six points from three point range. She
(33:39):
was nine of nineteen, and Dallas is now won and
eleven this season after losing a close one at Las
Vegas eighty eight eighty four. Page Beckers of Dallas to
have sixteen points. She had returned on Wednesday and scored
thirty five after missing four games due to concussion and illness.
Indiana's Caitlin Clark is due to return on Saturday after
missing five games with a string quad. Sam Burns leads
(34:02):
by one stroke at the US Open. The Giants have
tied the Dodgers for first place in the NLS San Diego,
still two back, Padres lost five to one at Arizona.
Giants were six two winners in La Logan Webb over
Yoshino Yamamoto. The Dodger losing pitcher allowed two early homers,
including a grand slam. The late games at Seattle. It's
(34:23):
now Mariners seven to over Cleveland in the bottom of
the eighth, already wins for Houston and the A's wins
for Atlanta and Texas. Milwaukee sent Saint Louis to a
six straight loss three to two, six straight losses for Washington.
Miami's beat them a long night with a long rain delay,
eleven nine Marlins the final. Boston in ten edged the
Yankees two to one, and Tampa Bay was a seven
(34:45):
to five winner at the Mets, who had won six straight.
Speaker 3 (34:49):
Back to you, Thank you, STEVEO.
Speaker 1 (34:50):
Jason Smith, Mike Harmon live from the Fox Sports Radio Studios. Yeah,
we'll have more on Solitaire Gate coming up as we
continue to break down the NBA Finals. I mean, it
is just that is just absolutely I can't get over that.
I really can't get over that. Keep it right here.
Happy Friday, Happy Friday, the thirteenth. Jason and Mike Fox
(35:11):
Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (35:15):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern seven
pm Pacific.
Speaker 1 (35:22):
Radio The Jason Smith Show with My best friend Mike Harmon.
Speaker 5 (35:26):
Oh yeah, eh, Tyja just loves that part too.
Speaker 3 (35:32):
Killer.
Speaker 1 (35:32):
The guy goes down the stairs forever.
Speaker 3 (35:34):
It's awesome, It's a beautiful day.
Speaker 1 (35:37):
Look a late breaking story in the last few minutes.
It now has millions of views on social media.
Speaker 3 (35:44):
Steven A.
Speaker 1 (35:44):
Smith on the set for ESPN tonight, you know, game
four of the NBA Finals, and there was a screen
grab taken of him from behind which shows him during
the game on his phone playing Solitaire. Wait wait what yeah?
Speaker 3 (35:59):
This is during the gay Wait wait is this real?
This happened?
Speaker 1 (36:01):
It was shared a lot, and Stephen A. Smith doubled
down on it a few minutes ago as Mike brought us.
He went to his Twitter page said yep, that's me.
Who knew I could multitask during timeouts?
Speaker 3 (36:13):
And then he put up another.
Speaker 1 (36:14):
Picture of a picture and picture of him watching the
NBA Finals with Solitaire on the same screen. Right. Look,
very rarely do I like to talk about other talking
heads and other people who do stuff because everybody's got
their own thing, right, But this is, this is so
unbelievably this, this is so obtuse by Steven A. Smith,
(36:37):
even for him who has shown before. Hey, I don't
mind making news for showing I don't know what I'm
talking about. I don't know play. I didn't know that
this player hadn't been on the Chargers in six years.
I was still saying Dan Fouts is a great quarterback. Right,
But this is, yes, the way life goes now. People
check their phones all the time, right, It's one thing
to check your phone very quickly you need something. Look,
(36:58):
Adam schefters And has made a cottage industry of being
on the set doing a segment on NFL Live. Right,
I gotta check my phone just because I gotta look busy. Right,
Everybody checks their phones. Everybody sends quick text while they're working.
Even Mike and I are doing things here. Hey, we
go into a break or something, Hey to send a
quick text, make a quick phone call. Look, that's what
life is, right, this is how it goes. But there's
(37:19):
a difference between I'm going to I'm sending I'm texting
with someone, or I'm on the internet to find something
out whatever. I want to find out the score of
another game or something else, or I am whatever it is, I'm.
Speaker 3 (37:31):
Doing something quick on my phone.
Speaker 1 (37:33):
There's a difference between that and just being apparently so
bored and unplugged that I'm gonna play Solitaire on my
phone right like I play Solitaire on my kindlele. I'm
watching TV during the day. If i'm if Fox sends
me to the bleep in NBA Finals, I'm not, and
I'm watching the game that I know I'm gonna have
(37:53):
to talk about after. There's certain things that I know
I'm not going to do, and playing playing a video
game my phone is one of them. But that clearly
shows you that, Look, I don't care. I'm bored and
this game can't hold my attention. Because even if he's
right when he's saying, it's during a time out. Okay,
this is why I got to run to my phone
(38:14):
to play a game while there's a time out on
the floor. Oh sorry, I have to watch I have
to go play Solitaire. Oh I'm so I can't wait,
because Solitaire is this new game sweeping the nation, right,
like I can't this brand new game solitary play with
a deck of cards and you do a red card
and a blackguard and a red card to blacker. This
is unbelievable. Like, that's so, that's so insulting. It's so
insulting to ESPN, it's insulting to the NBA Finals. It's
(38:36):
insulting to people who do what he does for a living.
It's insulting to the fans. Oh yeah, yeah, I'm a
highly paid broadcaster and I can't be I can't be
even counted on to just not do something embarrassing like
play a video game. Right, How would you feel like
if your kids in school and they're supposed to be
learning and they're playing a game on their phone, you're
mad at them, you know, Hey, listen, you can't do that.
Speaker 3 (38:58):
That's what.
Speaker 1 (38:59):
No, no, But I don't care because I'm teflon. I
have a huge contract, and people pay attention to me.
Whether I say things that that make sense or say
things that make no sense, what do I care? And
I'm so unplugged from the situation that it really doesn't
matter to me. I'm gonna go play Solitaire on my phone.
It's so unbelievably insulting to so many people.
Speaker 3 (39:19):
Somebody wrote, f yi, I can't check my phone because
it's a rotary phone. I know, well played still waiting. No, look,
it's it's a terrible look, whether it's in a time
out or not. But again that's the to the victor
(39:43):
goes to spoils. It's like SGA getting a call that
you could argue is a should be an offensive fall
and a push off. Well, star rules right. In this case,
It's been proven time and again. You can change players,
change them back to teams they played on a deck
day to go, change which players they are quarterbacking or
(40:05):
maybe shooting a jump shot, and it really hasn't mattered.
If anything, it's helped fuel the beast that exists. So
why stop now. I do like the fact that it
wasn't ai or photoshopped. They say, oh, I gotcha. I mean,
it's not know what Carlisle gave us. Carlisle gave us nothing.
Oh wonderful tonight. It was all great and it was
(40:27):
our guys. I mean, really, we just didn't execute. Well, no,
give me some fire at least Steve and I went
my bad.
Speaker 1 (40:36):
Sorry, I know you want to know what happened At
the six minute mark of the fourth quarter. But that's
where I was. I was so close. I only had
five moves left to get a king to the to
the free cell, and so I really need to make
that happen. So I'm sorry I missed that. But somebody
else can talk about it. Ah, what do I care.
Barkley and Shock and everyone. They're showing up next year.
They don't give a crap. I don't care.
Speaker 3 (40:55):
They're gonna be running stuff anyway, don't It doesn't matter
to me. Oh no, he's not seating his chair. Let's
not get get too much
Speaker 1 (41:02):
More in the NBA Finals and more in the big
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