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November 12, 2024 41 mins

Jason and Mike debate if it’s looking more and more like Matthew Stafford’s last season with the Rams. The guys tell you if Micah Parsons comments about Mike McCarthy were out of line. And Jason explains why the Chiefs are unbeatable in Arrowhead.

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(01:00):
So I picked to go to the Super Bowl before
the season started. Yeah, now things don't look like that's
gonna happen. I'm just saying it doesn't look that's going
to I mean, you went for.

Speaker 2 (01:08):
A price shot I mean that was not a captain
obvious picked the Lions in the Super Bowl last year?
How'd that go?

Speaker 3 (01:14):
You know?

Speaker 2 (01:14):
How close was I? Frostburg? Come on, let it go though?
How close was I? How close was I to go?
I was one quarter of the in the city. You
kidd They love me in Detroit? Are you kidding? Calgary?

Speaker 1 (01:26):
From now on, I'm the guy I've been to Calgary.
It is so golden Calgary. Uh no, I go back
to Detroit. They're like, this is a guy that believed
in us before we believed in ourselves.

Speaker 2 (01:35):
They tell you go to ann Arbor. No, they don't
tell me. They say, hey, listen, can you play quarterback?
Go to ann Arbor? Because we don't have anybody man
there is that we could be looking at Miller Moss.
All right, just can you can you.

Speaker 3 (01:47):
Throw the clip?

Speaker 2 (01:48):
Guys we're trying to stack dollar bills? Can you throw
the ball? And all?

Speaker 1 (01:52):
Because we may be saying goodbye to one long tenured
quarterback in the NFL, which we get to that in
a couple of seconds. But meanwhile, how about bit of
a shorter tenured quarterback we're about to wave goodbye to.
We told you a couple of weeks ago, the end
was coming for Daniel Jones with the Giants, with the
twenty five million dollars due to him this year guaranteed
due to injury.

Speaker 2 (02:14):
How much longer are the Giants gonna play?

Speaker 1 (02:16):
Daniel Jones not wanting to get hurt and have to
be on the hook for that twenty five million dollars
in the spring.

Speaker 2 (02:22):
It was gonna be a few more weeks.

Speaker 1 (02:24):
You can't just punt on it in week six, week seven.
But now here they are after a horrendous loss to
the Panthers, and it was so It was so said
because Tyron Tracy's becoming a star running back and he
has that awful fumble that gives the game to the Panthers.

Speaker 2 (02:40):
So Bake runs big efforts like this is this guy,
Like I kept hearing everybody going, I don't even know
who that guy is.

Speaker 1 (02:45):
He's pretty good until the fumble and then he fumbled.
But Daniel Jones, look, it's not gonna be any and
this was the game we told you was gonna be it.
If he doesn't play well against the Panthers, he's done.
And we know the Giants are gonna sit him down
at some points. They don't want to pay that money.
They're gonna tank. It's gonna be a new GM new
head coach knew everything.

Speaker 2 (03:04):
Next year, I forget all about all thoats of confidence
because I saw that. Yeah, even before that embarrassment and
Chuba Hubbard got that huge contract, and you say why
do you get in a huge contract? Well he went
and said I earned every bit of it as he
runs for one hundred and fifty three yards. But that
vote of confidence from the Giants, that's all lip service. Man.

Speaker 3 (03:21):
That was two weeks ago.

Speaker 2 (03:22):
That's what they have to say for the next couple
of weeks.

Speaker 1 (03:25):
Watching to play at high love the time ago, I'd
watch the entire offseason of Hard Knocks. They wanted to
get Daniel Jones out as much as they could, but
Daniel Jones was a guy collecting a big paycheck this year.

Speaker 2 (03:36):
The Giants tank this season.

Speaker 1 (03:38):
They came into this year saying, all right, we're not
going to draft a quarterback in the spring because they're
doing the smart thing. If I fire these guys after
a year, they're gonna be a new coaching staff is
gonna come in and coach JJ McCarthy. So no, let's
lay off the quarterback because if we're bad this year,
it's going to be a change all the way around.
So it would be a new coaching staff coming in
with a new quarterback, new everything. But they're not gonna

(03:59):
be on the hook for Daniel Jones. And if you
don't do it against the Panthers, who have the worst
defense statistically in the NFL, when are you ever gonna
really do it. He had a couple of okay games
in the last month and a half and he made
you think, oh, maybe he can he can do a
little bit here, but it was abysmal yesterday. The Giants
had no offense at all, and they're going into the
by and I've already seen the whispers all what they're

(04:21):
gonna have to make?

Speaker 2 (04:22):
A move of decision's got to be made. That's it.

Speaker 1 (04:24):
That was the last game you saw him start for
the Giants. The rest of the season, it's gonna be
Drew Locke and Tommy Cutlets and we're just gonna play
this out. We're playing out the string to the end
of the year. You saw Daniel Jones play his last
game of quarterback.

Speaker 2 (04:36):
Yeah, the difficulty of watching it yesterday, I mean, other
than for folks on the West coast had to get
really early if you wanted to watch yourself. Some Giants
Panthers were just the obvious misses. It's kind of like
going back to the conversation we had the end last
hour with where they're at in Chicago is Caleb Williams
was under siege, but he also missed a bunch of

(04:57):
pretty easy reads and throws. Now that's easy for me
to say from my couch working from you know, the
high vantage point of the All twenty two. That being said,
for Daniel Jones playing his day, you've got missus to Robinson,
misses to neighbors that our easy pitch and catcher should
be for a quarterback of any magnitude cashing an NFL check,

(05:22):
let alone a guy that you turned the franchise over to.
The curiosity with the Giants is are they bold enough,
foolish enough, and I guess Penny Penny watching enough to
where they say, you know what, Brian Dable had great
success helping Josh Allen, so maybe maybe it's not him,
Maybe it's all Daniel. Yeah, and so we don't have

(05:44):
to then pay two coaches by sending him away. No here,
because here. Here's this, because they're kind of along the
bears right when we get into those original old school
family owner kind of This is Daniel Jones with all
his gear getting down to the docks saying, Hey, I'm
getting on the giant ship.

Speaker 1 (06:00):
Where's the giant ship? I'm here, And someone says, oh,
I'm sorry, sir, that ship is sailed.

Speaker 2 (06:05):
That's not happening.

Speaker 1 (06:07):
You're sanding there on the dock with all your gain.
Oh I gotta bring this all back to the hotel
room now. Yeah, no, Look at that giant chip. It's
way out of sea. Man, They are gone, gone gone.

Speaker 2 (06:15):
Can you at least do it stylistically and have stings soon?
Do it from the last ship. That ship has sailed.

Speaker 1 (06:22):
So if that's it for Daniel Jones at this point,
you have to think that this is also going to
be it for Matthew Stafford with the Rams. Tonight's game
was abysmal. Five field goals, they're healthy. This should have
been a game where the Rams win. They continue, they
had won three in a row. But Matthew Stafford just

(06:43):
has not been his old self. And when you're thirty seven,
thirty eight years old and you're coming off a year
in which half of the year was good and half
of the year was right. Now, it looks like this
is going to be it for him in LA because
if you take out the Minnesota game right and I'm
not saying it didn't happen, the Minnesota game happened, But
if you take that Minnesota game out, he is five

(07:06):
touchdowns and six interceptions with a quarterback rating of eighty
five in eight games. Those are Zach Wilson type numbers.
Five touchdowns, six picks and a quarterback rating of eighty five.
You don't get another year to say, hey, let's see
if this works.

Speaker 2 (07:23):
This was the year that Sean McVay is able to
convince everybody, Hey, Matthew Stafford was really good the back
half of last season. Let's give him another year. Let's
see how it goes. This is that year.

Speaker 1 (07:34):
Next year is not the year saying, okay, maybe one
more than Matthew Stafford. You can get out of his
contract after this year. If he's a post June first cut,
it's only twenty five million dollars of dead cap money.
You can absorb that. The Rams have found a way
to do all kinds of crazy stuff. Dead cap money
it's not a lot if you designate him a post
June first cut, and there's always things you can do
money wise to make it work. But this is going

(07:55):
to be it. They're not going to go to another
season of Hey, maybe Matthew Stafford. Stafford if he comes
up and he has a great last seven to eight
weeks and they play because loo they're only still a
game and a half out of first place in the
NFC West. But Stafford's been bad all season long. I'm sorry,
but he's been bad. Whether he's had weapons or not
had weapons, he's been bad. He had all his guys,
they couldn't get in the end zone. Stafford is the one,

(08:17):
the one big part, the big key to this offense
that has always been there. And they're just not scoring.
They're just not scoring points. They're getting blown out for games.
They're they're losing games to teams with bad defenses and
losing teams games to teams where they can't get in
the end zone. And when you have Williams and Nakua
and Cooper Cup and you can go top to bottom

(08:39):
with all kinds of weapons, you should be able to
do better. And if Matthew Stafford was thirty years old. Okay,
all right, he's gonna get another year. But when you
think he may be at the end, and this was
the year he got to prove he isn't. He's not
going to survive one more year and say the Rams
aren't gonna say all.

Speaker 2 (08:56):
Right, all right, well next year, you really have to
do it, Matt. No, we're going to get out of
that contract and we're going to move on to another quarterback.

Speaker 4 (09:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (09:03):
I think a lot of it comes down to what
is Sean mcmay want to do? How tapped out? Is
he right? And because he was almost in television at
one point, a lot of rumors about whether he'd be
sitting at a desk or we're going to boot for
Fox about a what a year and a half ago,
and then we bullied him back into the coaching box.
I think he's he's.

Speaker 1 (09:23):
Kind of think he's kind of reinvigorated with the team.
You're looking at mental tiredness, but revamping the team and
turning it from being an old team. Hey, we're going
to be in salary cupell for a while. Hey no,
now we turned over pretty good. The Rams defense is
really good. Okay, but what's our problem? Now our problem offensively,

(09:43):
we need somebody that can get the quote to get
the Baltimore playmakers. And while Stafford still seems like he's
a good quarterback, but the proof is in the games, man.
And when when again, in eight games, when.

Speaker 2 (09:53):
It's five touchdowns, six picks and a quarterback rating of
under eighty five.

Speaker 1 (09:57):
That's that's awful. I mean, I mean that's Wilson type numbers.

Speaker 2 (10:01):
That's Zach Wilson would actually better what Aaron Rodgers is
doing with the Jets this year. How does that make
you feel? Kenny Pickett type numbers, man, That's that's terrible.
We were also cheated because there there was a potential
with the ankle injury to Jalen Hurts this week that
we were going to see Kenny Pickett. Yeah, we were close.
Cooper Rush I was really kind of, you know, looking
forward to watching that battle come to come to bear.

(10:23):
But yeah, I mean you have a little bit of
it that you say, Okay, they got they moved the ball,
and then Kyron Williams has eight touchdowns, which is among
the league leaders for rushing. But your points well taken
in terms of the eighty five quarterback rating. Not that
I live and die by that. But we've got it,
we've got the metric. We might as well use it

(10:43):
when we look at where they are in terms of
total offense, nice and meaty part of the curve right now,
averaging just twenty one points per game, so not not
exactly setting themselves apart, uh and getting the receivers back.
You saw tonight opportunity knocked against the squad that hadn't

(11:04):
been very good, and you're settling for fifty plus yard
field goals against this Miami squad. Offensively, they struggled. They
were the league worst fifteen points a game. Defensively, with
all of the changes they'd made, the teams had been
able to move the ball on them. You'd seen a
couple of narrow lots. Well, they're giving up twenty eight
game and those losses, right, so you should have been

(11:27):
able to cash in. But you had a bunch of
bad penalties. And that's the thing that beyond Stafford is
really the larger thing to be looked at, is what
the hell exactly happened with this squad, Because it was
always about discipline and the excellence of execution. To steal
our WWE phrasing from Brett Hart is. Now you've got
all these pre snap penalties, confusion drop passes in wide

(11:52):
open spaces, and Stafford's not hitting the easy throws at
points like yeah, at least three in this and we're like,
that's that used to be a layup?

Speaker 1 (12:02):
Yeah that was, that's that's fifteen yards. Yeah, And look
at it's not all Matthew Stafford. But it's when you're
thirty seven, and there is even in a row. When
you're thirty seven and you haven't played well for a
couple of years, a team is not gonna stick with you.
They're gonna they're gonna understand, we have to go out
and get somebody else, whether it's in free agency and

(12:23):
it's a reload type situation where hey, so and so
suddenly available, we're gonna go get another We get Aaron Rodgers,
but we're gonna go get somebody else that can play.

Speaker 2 (12:30):
Hey, that's great, that works for us, or hey, we're.

Speaker 1 (12:33):
Able to make a move in the draft and get
up really high and get somebody that we really really like,
Like you kind of have to do that, and and
can you just think about from the Rams perspective, if
the Rams have a disappointing year this year, right, say
this is where they're at four and five and they
finished seven to ten, eight to nine out of the playoffs.
Think about what how can you go into next year saying, hey,

(12:53):
we had problems, but it's gonna be the same cast
and it's Matthew Stafford. And as soon as you say that,
it's hey, we're holding on to it to an error
that's gone. Right, we need we need to do something else.
You turned over the turned over the defense and it
worked great. You turned over the offense. You found superstars offensively,
Karen Williams and Pokin a cor superstars.

Speaker 2 (13:13):
You don't need anything else offensively, right, Your offensive line
is good enough. You have a really good running back,
you have two really good wide receiver like you have
what you need. Hey, Sorry, And it sucks because they
went and traded for Stafford. He came and he played great,
and he won the Super Bowl and it's been It
was a terrific move. But eventually I think everybody's got
to understand, hey, we have to move on. Yeah. I
mean they did a bunch of work on his contract

(13:36):
and loaded it into twenty twenty four with the idea
of let's reassess after and look, they'll move on from
him unless there's some miraculous run here down the stretch,
which based on what we've seen, is not going to happen.
The fact that you also picked them to go to
the super Bowl is not going to help them. Yeah,
just like you stick my bears to do all sorts
of great things. Yes he said it, Mike, But but

(13:59):
if he keeps to push Aaron Rodgers onto other teams,
like suddenly he's gonna find the fountain of youth. Okay,
not happening. Okay, he's your problem until he's society's problem
in the career. She'll be my problem for another month
and a half, and then he's not my problem anymore.
Then that's it. It's over. That's it, man. Then the
stench of the Jets carries with him into whatever his

(14:21):
next act is.

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Speaker 2 (16:07):
Yeah, and then there's what happened today with the Dallas Cowboys.
It's a little off on its own. Sure.

Speaker 1 (16:13):
Uh yeah, Look, the season's going exactly how we told
you was gonna go.

Speaker 2 (16:18):
It made no improvements in the offseason. They were gonna
be bad. It's bad.

Speaker 1 (16:22):
Dak Prescott is hurt. The season is over and things
are just going to continue to spiral. For the Cowboys.

Speaker 2 (16:27):
I thought there'd at least be more style, the Dak
tearing meat off the bone, and there was a lot
of style. Jerry Jones brought all the style. He paid CD,
and he paid he paid Dak. You know what I'm
saying in season though, that it would be losses, but
that they'd still be an entertaining watch at times, right,
that DAK and CD might have their moments, not that hey,

(16:51):
CD couldn't see a ball thrown by Cooper because of
the light.

Speaker 4 (16:55):
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Speaker 2 (16:55):
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(17:16):
see when the valet guy brings you your car keys
tosses them to you. You want to be able to
catch him. You don't want to say I can't. And
then the key catches you on the cheek and gives
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Speaker 3 (17:29):
See.

Speaker 2 (17:29):
I figured you were gonna start singing the old Blue
Blocker theme song. It's bad, and we knew it was
gonna be bad. And it was bad on Sunday, and
it was bad for Cooper Rush who threw for negative
forty five yards yesterday.

Speaker 1 (17:42):
Yeah, the Cowboys were awful. They get boat raced. We
knew what was gonna happen. And the job status of
Mike McCarthy is now really the only thing left entertainment
wise for the Cowboys this year, because remember, Jerry Jones
is all about entertainment. We've told you this for months,
Jerry Jones. No, if I can't win a championship, I

(18:02):
have to be entertaining and I need to be part
of the conversation and no matter what our record is,
the Dallas Cowboys have to make it's got to look
like the Cowboys are still the straw that stirs the
drink in the NFL.

Speaker 2 (18:13):
So I make crazy ass moves. I decide I'm not
gonna bring in anybody to make the team better. Then
on the eve of the season, I'll pay Dak and
CD Lamb and still have no money to make the
team better. I'll make excuses why I couldn't get a
guy like Dereck Henry. We didn't have money for Dereck Henry.
Didn't you have twenty three million dollars. He's only eight
million dollars.

Speaker 1 (18:29):
Now I do have money for Dereck Henry, Oh, I
didn't have that. I'm gonna make a bad trade for
a wide receiver because I want to win trade deadline day.
So instead of a seventh rounder for Jonathan Ming, I'm
gonna get a fourth round pick for him.

Speaker 4 (18:39):
Oh.

Speaker 2 (18:40):
People are people gonna pay attention. They wouldn't pay attention
if I gave a seventh round pick. Let me get
a fourth round pick and they'll tell me how bad
I am. So, now, what is left for Jerry Jones
other than Mike McCarthy in his job situation, and he
has raised the bar so much this year that I'm
telling you there's one solution around or right after Thanksgiving,

(19:03):
because normal in years, Jerry Jones doesn't like to push
the panic button to make a big coaching move, but
he has now been consumed with keeping the Cowboys top
of mind. Many more headlines we are getting that we
normally don't get from Jerry Jones, who is getting a
little bit more impulsive as he gets older. And the
reason Mike McCarthy's job is the next thing is because well,

(19:25):
he paid the quarterback, he paid the wide receiver. The
quarterback has Ehart. The team is bad. Now, what's going
on for the head coach?

Speaker 1 (19:30):
Well, I'll fire the head coach if I think the
team is really cut bade on him. Well, here's Micah Parsons,
Cowboys best defensive Player from today talking about Mike McCarthy's
job situation and if he should be the coach next
season thanks.

Speaker 2 (19:45):
On the penal years his contracts are outside. There's of
course going to be questions what's the sentiment inside.

Speaker 4 (19:50):
The locker room and what do you tell people a coach?
You know, that's about my pay grade about if Mike
is coaching again next year. But you know, coaching and
side coaching. You know, Mike can leave and go wherever
he wants. But the guys, I, you know, I kind
of feel bad for his, guys like Zach Martin and
guys who might be on their last year, on their
way out, you know, because that's what I wanted to

(20:11):
hold a trophy for. You know, you want to win
games and do great things with those type of legends
who put in more time and work. Going Mike McCarthy
ever did so going to guy that I have so
much sympathy and hurt for it.

Speaker 2 (20:24):
Yeah, In other words, I hate Mike McCarthy. He was
fighting until the final five word. No he wasn't he
first he would. He says he can't even say I
want him back next year. He's a great coach. It's
above my pay grade. It's a layup question day. What
do they want to know? Mike's a great coach. Love
to have him back, He's terrific. Didn't even say that.
Then he can go on and say it's above my

(20:44):
pay grade. But then he goes on to say no, No,
here's the guys I feel bad for me because Mike
McCarthy can go on and coach other things. I want
to play friend and hold the trophy up for these
guys that maybe it's their last chance. He can go
and do something else.

Speaker 1 (20:56):
And then at the end he doubles down and say,
I don't you know I care about these guys than
Mike McCarthy.

Speaker 2 (21:01):
Where he can go. He hates Mike McCarthy. Mike McCarthy
has lost the locker room. This is your best defensive
player and your biggest voice coming. I mean, outside of
Ceedee Lamb saying hey we need shades. Outside of Celiamb,
Michael Parsons is your best young player. And this is
the guy saying, yeah, Mike McCarthy, I don't really care.
And if he's back, I don't really care. Do I

(21:21):
want to see somebody else? Yeah, But I'm not quite
gonna say that.

Speaker 1 (21:24):
Instead, I'm just gonna say about all the other guys
that I'm feel bad for, worse than Mike McCarthy.

Speaker 2 (21:28):
Like he doesn't feel bad at all. If Mike McCarthy
got fired tomorrow.

Speaker 1 (21:31):
The way he's talking, it's like, yeah, yeah, well you
deserve it, but you know what you got money? What
are you worried about. Like, that's kind of Mike Michah Parsons.
When that happens, you know, a coaching change has to
be made, and it can't be till the end of
the season.

Speaker 2 (21:43):
Well, he also needs to figure out defensively, got to
be a leader there too, so that that should be
the pushback gun fighting. I'm leading by getting our coach out,
we get another coach in. Yeah, that was like the
Fano snap. Inevitable at this point if you're gonna keep
losing thirty one to six, uh, and your quarterback's not
coming back this year and go on down the line.

(22:05):
But for Michael Parsons, yeah, like I think the first part,
like I gave him benefit of the doubt when the
first quote was first put out because it clipped off
that back end, right A clipped off the the last
reference to McCarthy there. It was about you know, Mike,
Mike can go on and do things. So it became
about the veteran players whose careers are gonna end, not

(22:28):
that Mike McCarthy's. Like, look, if he's the coach in Dallas, great,
if he's not, whatever, Mike, Mike can still coach, was
how I read it not as as urse until the
back end of that, like, because when he circles back
around the cul de sac, he runs over him a
second time. I might the first time, I might have

(22:50):
just nudged there. I might have just nudged you. But
now I'm circling around, I'm gonna make sure I get you.
And that's what he did there. Look, you've got a
a squad that you know, as we astutely pointed out
in Division, was gonna be a tough, tough sledding that
maybe you'd win a few more games than they have,

(23:10):
but that you were gonna be on the outside looking
in again expecting better play throughout the NFC. And I
think in certain circumstances we've seen it. But for this
squad right now, you knew you didn't have a run
game and your defense has been toothless. Right, that was
the fall guy after the one point fifty eight point
three put up by Jordan Love last year's you changed

(23:30):
out your DC. Guess what, you didn't change out the personnel.
No matter what chef you bring into a kitchen, if
the grocery is erotted, there's still bad. No matter how
much sauce you put on there, no matter how much seasoning,
you know, And I'm gonna get him to taste just salt. Yeah,
but if you put cheese on him, Jason Leedham, Right,
But eventually he's gonna be clogging stuff like that coach.

Speaker 1 (23:54):
Okay, and we're gonna have problems now, So what's next.
Obviously McCarthy is a goner. This is like, this is
the final. Hey, we keep putting the hereo, there's nails
in that coffin, Mike McCarthy.

Speaker 2 (24:06):
There you go, try to break out of that. There
you go. Okay, Houdini, let's see you get out. Here
come the nails out there. Good luck, Let's see you
get out of there. Hey, I watched the Bride get
out of there and kill Bill two. Let's see you
come on, Hey, come on pie may here I come remember, Yeah,
let's see you get out of there. Normal years, I
was wearing sho kind of song you're getting It's like

(24:27):
you were tapping out Flash Gordon. I was five and
he was six. We rode on.

Speaker 1 (24:34):
So in normal years, Jerry Jones would let the cowboys
just kind of fade away and make a move and
get ready for next year. However, this is not that,
and you can see by the things he is doing,
he's not going to let a month and a half
of Dallas sucks go by, and that be the general

(24:55):
saying the consensus because the bad trade he made for
trade deadline day to win tra deadline, how upset he
got at the the radio host, get somebody new in
here asking questions about me and all the stuff mistakes
I'm made. He wants to do something, and he wants
to make the Cowboys top of mind again, and he's
going to make a move. And I'm telling you he's
got the itch that is too tough to not scratch.

(25:18):
Bill Belichick is gonna wind up being the head coach
of the Cowboys. There's not gonna be many teams that
want Belichick. And I told you the end of last year,
the only team I can see him coming back to
is Jerry Jones, because Jerry Jones falls in love with
the star power of Bill Belichick and turning the Cowboys
back into a great front page franchise again, because because
the Cowboys the giants, Cowboys, if they can't win, they

(25:40):
want the headlines. Ye, I'm sure if he lets Mike
McCarthy go and brings in Bill Belichick. Suddenly the Cowboys
own the headlines from whenever that happens, through the end
of the year and end of the offseason. And Belichick
would say yes, because he doesn't know how many games
he's gonna need to break down Chula's record, which is
what he wants.

Speaker 2 (26:00):
So maybe he gets it. I can get an extra
one or two wins he coaches the last six weeks,
I win one.

Speaker 1 (26:05):
Or two games. Okay, hey, Matt gets me one or
two games closer. And then it also lets him he
can evaluate the team for next year, what he wants,
what works, what doesn't, oh this, and and all of
a sudden, it doesn't matter if the Cowboys get pasted,
because here's Belichick in and he's doing new things. He's
gonna hire Belichick anyway. He's not gonna go for a
young offensive mind somewhere, even though guy like Ben Johnson

(26:26):
is gonna be the top of everybody's list.

Speaker 2 (26:27):
But who knows. He may want to stay. He stayed
last year he was with the Bears, but he's.

Speaker 1 (26:32):
Not gonna go he once in a while, Jerry Jones
is okay, Going for a big fish doesn't happen all
that often because he didn't like the fact that Jimmy
Johnson got all the credit. Got rid of Jimmy Johnson.
It didn't work. After a couple of guys, he brought
in Bill Parcells. Parcels worked for a couple of years.
Then he went back to the less of the of
the of the heralded coaches. And now he's the point

(26:55):
where I've tried a bunch less heralded guys. McCarthy was
a decent sized fish. Where else was he a go?
He had a lot to accomplish. But I'm still the
big star here in Dallas. McCarthy's under me. He realizes
that I need to go a little bit more big
game hunting for a head coach.

Speaker 2 (27:09):
And if I do that, now Belichick and I are
the big story and the Cowboys stay a story.

Speaker 1 (27:16):
And let's see if we can do this together. It
makes too much Cowboys sense when you understand what the
Cowboys are after. For most other teams, it doesn't make sense,
why are you doing it? Bring it a guy, But
for the Cowboys it makes sense to hey, we will
win the next We'll win from now all the way
through till the draft. What's Belichick going to do Kenny,
it'll be a daily debate. Belichick wins because maybe he

(27:36):
coaches and wins two of the last five or six games.
I'm two wins closer to Don Shula. Everybody wins, and
it makes too much Cowboys sense for that not to happen.

Speaker 3 (27:46):
See.

Speaker 2 (27:46):
I like all of that because you also get back
to remember during the COVID years and we had the draft.
I mean Bill Belichick's dog was the most famous dog
until Ben came along. Yeah, I mean it was kind
of a big deal. Whether he was actually of the selections.
Remember how many cut ins they had where Belichick wasn't
even in the room. It was the dog at the computer.
So we're like, eh, what's going on it? And he

(28:07):
accidentally clicked on the guy that click couldn't make the team.
You drafted a guy out of like Division two in
the second round. Is that how you wanted? I gotta
speak up. Yeah, no, the dog, Yeah that was no.
We had this guy high on our board. He was
really really good. And yet that's you're just kind of
a sleeper for us. We uh, we staked him. The

(28:27):
next question, you stay off of this chair. I told
you not on this chair. You don't get on this chair.
I do like the bottom of it, and Cowboys logic
is a fun way to go. I'd be shocked until
I wouldn't be because it is Chery Jones. I wouldn't
be surprised if he named himself coach at this point. Yeah,

(28:48):
I'm gonna come and put in my own offense. What
I'm gonna do is, uh, We're gonna have fourteen or
fifteen guys on the field. And remember when told me
it's okay. Remember when Zeke was complaining to get the
ball enough. We'll see how he's feeling it in the
third quarter, Hia Zig. I'm gonna play two quarterbacks at once,
five receivers, three running backs, eight offensive linemen and we

(29:09):
should be able to do some damage there. And I'm
gonna line like three offensive linemen up right behind the five,
so if anybody breaks through, we have these guys to
block them. Now, I got you give Dak enough time
to throw the ball downfield, double up, especially if the
other team only has eleven we have seventeen. That's gonna
help us a little bit here. So and I'll call
the place. It'll be fun. It makes too much cowboys sense,

(29:30):
wizarding cloaking. There is what you're looking for.

Speaker 1 (29:32):
There is sense, and there is Cowboys sense, and that's
what this is. Time to find out what's trending right
now on the wide world of sports. From a man
who actually was a finalist for the Cowboys head coaching job,
but he turned it down to stay here with us
at Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 2 (29:46):
It's Steve Disager.

Speaker 6 (29:47):
No, actually, I'm sure Jerry has already asked Tony Romo
to be the holder.

Speaker 2 (29:51):
I'm sure that's coming up. Make sure you put the
ball down. Don't don't. Don't want to have a repeat
of two thousand and three.

Speaker 6 (29:57):
Dallas is sticking with Cooper Rush at quarterback. Bears say
quarterback Caleb Williams will remain their starter. The Colts will
stay with Joe Flacco as starting quarterback. In the Monday
night game in La Miami beat the Rams twenty three
to fifteen, holding the Rams without a touchdown. They were
five for six on field goals. Jason Sanders, a Southern
California native, three for three on field goals for the winners,

(30:18):
including two from fifty yards out. Well, Seahawks wide receiver
DK Metcalf might finally be back this coming weekend. He's
due to return to practice on Wednesday after missing the
last couple games with a knee injury. Bill's wide receiver
key On Coleman, with a wrist injury, will miss another
game this Sunday against the Chiefs. Vikings running back Aaron Jones,
with the rib injury, feels optimistic about playing this Sunday

(30:40):
at Tennessee. Two passings in the coaching world. Former Rams
and USC coach John Robinson died at the age of
eighty nine, and former Notre Dame coach Jerry Faust has
died at the age of eighty nine. He's in the
National High School Football Hall of Fame in ken for
his work as head coach at Moeler. In fact, he
won five state titles in his last six seasons at

(31:02):
the school, and then after the nineteen eighty season, Notre
Dame hired Jerry Faust from Mohler to be the Fighting
Irish head coach, where he lasted five years at Notre Dame.

Speaker 2 (31:12):
In late night.

Speaker 6 (31:12):
NHL Action, under two minutes to go, Hurricanes lead five
to one at Vegas. Earlier, Dallas was up six to
nothing in the first and got a seven to one
victory at Pittsburgh Calgary over LA three to one. The
Major League Baseball Award finalists include for NL Sy Young
Chris Sale of Atlanta and for al Cy Young, Detroit's
Trek Skouble a finalist, yes Aaron Judge of the Yankees,

(31:35):
an MVP finalist in the American League, and Shoey Otania
the Dodgers and MVP finalist.

Speaker 2 (31:40):
In the National League.

Speaker 6 (31:41):
In the NBA, Cleveland is twelve to oh Cleveland got
a win at Chicago one nineteen to one, thirteen thirty
six points for Donovan Mitchell and Oklahoma City had a
close game against the Clippers on the Lane get Over,
Pickup Dinner, Baby.

Speaker 2 (31:57):
Take that Clippers at the final Okay.

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Speaker 2 (32:12):
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Speaker 1 (32:14):
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Speaker 1 (33:04):
His name was Aaron. He was a quarterback, but he
couldn't throw the ball down field. And he realizes with
the Jets, and now he's finished, and so are the Jets.
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Speaker 2 (33:23):
It's a bad obsession. I had enough of you. Just
be happy. Playoff team, Move on, a playoff team. The
Chargers are terrific. Come on, everybody's jumping on the bandwagon.
Everybody wants to be part of Team Harbaugh.

Speaker 3 (33:39):
Come on, so.

Speaker 2 (33:40):
Talk about them now, So talk about something that nobody
cares about. You You stop with that, You mean, okay,
you don't think people people think? What do you think?
Don't you don't?

Speaker 1 (33:50):
I don't think many people care about Aaron Rodias anymore.
All of a sudden, he's not a story. He's the
biggest story in the NFL for three years. Now, you're
right now he's not? Oh really, only in my head?

Speaker 2 (34:00):
Right for really you think he's the biggest story in
the NFL. Right now, who was the biggest story in
the NFL for the past three years? Not Aaron Rodgers.
Sure he is. What was bigger than his daily soap
opera of everything going on? What was bigger whatever Andy
Reid had for dinner? Nuggies of those nuggies.

Speaker 1 (34:18):
But that is what we're going to talk about now,
are the Chiefs? Because to give you something a little
bit different, right and again, then you've heard the last
twenty four hours involving the first ever block field goal
in the NFL. Because that's what this is being treated like.

Speaker 2 (34:29):
This is field goal blocked by the Chiefs.

Speaker 1 (34:31):
Oh I got they made a great play in a
block a field goal. There are two schools of thought.
The Chiefs are terrific undefeated nine and O team. The
Chiefs are a lucky nine and O team, right, And
I can see the merits of both arguments. Are they
a dominant.

Speaker 3 (34:49):
Nine and O team?

Speaker 2 (34:49):
Nah, they don't really play great for the first three quarters,
but boy, they make every play in the fourth quarter
to win. Are they a great.

Speaker 3 (34:56):
Nine and O team?

Speaker 4 (34:56):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (34:57):
Because to be nine and oh, no matter how many
weeks in a row you do, you got to be
a really good team. But this is where neither of
those takes matter when you're talking about the reality of
Kansas City, and the reality is this, Like we told
you a few weeks ago. Congratulations to the rest of
the national media who picked up on this. The Chiefs
transformed themselves after signing Patrick Mahomes of that big contract.

(35:21):
They've become more like the Patriots of the aughts and
the teams where they relied on a really good defense,
not the best in the NFL defense, but a really
good defense, clutch play by the quarterback, and a way
that they know how to win close games in the
fourth quarter. And that's basically what the Chiefs are now.
Whether you think it, I could see the lucky aspect

(35:43):
of it because Yeah, they're not winning like we're used
to watching them win over the course of the past
few years, where it was they're gonna put thirty five
or forty two on you any week.

Speaker 1 (35:52):
That's not how it goes. But the reality is this,
you watch after watching that game yesterday, the Broncos played
a phenomenal game. They were almost perfect, and they lost
almost The reality is this, if you're going to beat
the Chiefs, you have to play a perfect game.

Speaker 2 (36:09):
You can beat them. This is not you have to
play a perfect game and you can't win. No, No,
this is a team you can get to Mahomes. They
don't put up the points like they used to. But
you have to play a perfect game. Because the Broncos played,
they played the end of the game perfect, everything they
needed to do, but they couldn't. They couldn't convert a
thirty five yard field goal and they lost. If you
play perfect you can beat the Chiefs. How often does

(36:31):
that happen? Hardly at all. And if you have to
go through Kansas City in the playoffs and play in
Kansas City, it's not happening there either. You're not playing
a perfect game in Kansas City and winning. When you
watch the Patriots in the playoffs and the aughts and
the teams they very rare. I mean how many times
they lose at home in the playoffs twice and it
was just so absolutely stunning. How do you lose They
didn't lose a lot in the playoffs in general, but

(36:53):
especially at home. How do you do that? Oh my god,
it's a super human, herculean effort. That's what it's going
to be to beat the Chiefs. Where you think it's
because they're lucky and they escape or because they're really good,
it doesn't matter. You need to play perfect to beat
the Chiefs. And that is bad news for thirty one
other teams because if that road goes through Kansas City
and you're playing an arrowhead in late January, guess what,

(37:15):
it's not happening, and the Chiefs are going to be
in the super Bowl. Well as we sit here, I
mean they've given the ball up right, they're a minus
four and turnover differential that puts them in the bottom
third of the league. So perfection isn't there. But the
devil's in the details. When it comes down to crunch
time possessions, you need a play on either side of

(37:35):
the ball. They make it. You've got an efficient kicker
who takes care of you. Don't have to love him, right,
folks are still mad at him, that's fine. But if
there's a guy trotting out and out in the field
for the Chiefs right now, feel pretty good that Bucker
is gonna make the kick. Likewise, on the other side,
when you look at at the punter, I mean, all
of those things play together, and Andy Reid, even with

(37:57):
Matt n Aggie on staff, makes decisions that are winning decisions.
You get the continuity, the consistency of this squad plugging
in component parts and at this point they're still working
guys into their offense, right, They're not even a finished
product at perfection at this point. We saw it with
the Steelers a couple of years ago and wondered if

(38:19):
they were going to be able to carry through. And
the regular season was fantastic and then they flame out.
And that's in line with their identity. So folks that
want to make that one to one correlation, it's faulty
because we've seen the Chiefs cross the finish line these
last several years, right even after Tyreek Hill leaves. Even
when you're talking about a bunch of journeymen, second rate

(38:42):
in terms of NFL player status, still professionals, all wide
receivers outside of Travis Kelce. All of that to say,
given the AFC field, they have no obvious deficiency. Right,
it may not be the most aesthetically pleasing football. To
your point, they're not putting up thirty eight a game

(39:03):
and lightening it up. Here's another sixty yard bomb from
Mahomes to insert wide receiver here in place of Tyreek Hill. No,
you know it's WR one two whatever. But every other
team that we look around the AFC, who do you love?
You love the offense of Baltimore? You want to go
and put something else on when they they flip to

(39:24):
the defensive side. All right, how long is this possession
probably gonna take? On average? It's a twelve minute possession
for the opponent.

Speaker 3 (39:31):
Good.

Speaker 2 (39:31):
I'm gonna go watch a segment of a comedy.

Speaker 1 (39:33):
It's like it's like when you watch someone judging a
food competition and all the dishes are teams in the AFC.
You try something, you see a judge truck, Oh, way
too much salt, Oh big flaw in that dishes. Oh
the rosemary overpowers arrested. Oh that's awful. And here's the
Chiefs dish. Oh, hey, this is pretty good. It could

(39:53):
use a little h I don't quite know what, but boy,
this is really tasty.

Speaker 2 (39:58):
I like it.

Speaker 1 (39:58):
Boy would really go be over the top if you
could just add them. I don't know what it's quite missing,
but it's still better than ever.

Speaker 3 (40:07):
Simple.

Speaker 2 (40:08):
That's the Chiefs. It's a nice bowl of soup on
a cold winter night. Taste the soup. Taste the soup.
You have a spoon. So so basically the rest of
the NFL, rest of the AFC bowls of soup without spoons,
and the Chiefs are a bull of soup with a spoon.
A little more effort you can still slurp it down.

(40:30):
By the spoon is the vessel by which it's so hot.
I'm just gonna keep drinking it. Burn my throat, burning
my lip. But that's real. Hey, that's the reality.

Speaker 1 (40:41):
You need to play a perfect game to beat them.
And if you got to go through Kansas City and
play in Kansas City, it's not happening. Man, Get ready
for that Chief's Lion super Bowl.

Speaker 2 (40:50):
Get ropes that want to diminish it to luck, which
which is always the popular take on winning. It's like
hard work, preparation, and opportunity, a little bit of luck.
Exit out by the Frasca Exit Swallen Dome.

Speaker 1 (41:05):
Coming up next, We get back into Monday night football
and we ask one question about one team, and that
question is what the hell man?

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