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Speaker 1 (00:29):
Hello, Welcome in side hour three The Jason Smith Show
with my best friend Mike Harmon. Second half, Let's go
live from the Fox Sports Radio studios. We again, Mark
Stein coming up in about twenty minutes. Member Mark had
the story last week, Hey, potentially Jason Kidd is on
the knickt radar and today mutual intrigue between the two
(00:53):
mutual What.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
Does that mean they're kissing on the cheek or like,
what is that?
Speaker 1 (00:58):
Mutual intrigue means I passed a note like someone I
told Mike that I really like this girl and he
passed a note to her friend saying, Hey, this is
not for me, but this is This is Jason saying
that he likes your friend. Can you figure out what's
going on and get back to me. You know, Jason
doesn't want to be out there if you know it's
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gonna be embarrassing, it says, Okay, I'll get back to you.
Let you know. She went and tells her friend, Hey,
Jason Smith likes you. And oh my god, that good
looking dude that looks like the Rock. Yeah, he's smart,
he's funny. Oh my godn't say that he is everything.
Oh they say that and more. Mary, you don't know, you.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
Know, she says, she like Mike, I will tell you.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
You should see what's written on the bathroom walls about
me all across Los Angeles.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
That's amazing.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
And then doing vandalism.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
She comes back, No, I don't you're vandalizing. I'm saying
what I read about me on the wall.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
And then she comes back and tells her friend, Oh, yeah,
I know I kind of like Jase.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
Yeah. So then the friend.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
Tells you, hey, yeah, she would kind of be interested
in you. Okay, great. So now I now at the
point where I know and she knows, we both have
mutual intrigue with each other, which maybe now at this point,
because how it goes is maybe you have mutual intrigue
with the friend you talk to was like, okay, well
we'll double date and all kinds of crazy stuff. But
now we're at that mutual intrigue point. Now someone's got
(02:13):
to make a move or mutually we make a movie.
You're like a day away from giving a hat. I
really thought it was he was gonna end with the
word thropple.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
I always thought it was thruple. It could be either.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
I was a.
Speaker 4 (02:29):
Throuple child left behind, Like Blue Sky was Blueski, it's Blueski,
it's thropple, thrupl and Mobland is mobilan Mobland, it's Mobiland
Copland was Copeland Copeland?
Speaker 1 (02:44):
Yes, yeah, Stuart Copeland, Yeah sure, Yeah. How long I
thought Stuart Copeland and Sting were the same person, I realized, Oh, no,
it's not.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
It's not.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
When I was little, I thought Stuart Copeland and Sting
were Oh that's Sting's name. No, it's a start Oh different, dude. Yes,
I didn't know what I saw, though.
Speaker 5 (02:59):
It's the exciting news for me in terms of music
and theater my loves.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
Okay, someone's playing halftime of Notre Dames homecoming game. Northwestern's
no homecoming game.
Speaker 5 (03:09):
Now next year they're restaging the last ship Stings ode
to his hometown and the shipbuilding industry of England all
these years ago, which means it's eventually coming back to
the States again. Okay, which excites me. There's a time
a nerve.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
There's there's a there's a big market for the ship
building industry and Stings home now it was someone to
learn about it shut it down. I want to learn
about the ship building and where Sting from. What's it
home town? I forget what the town is in. Okay,
So so the ship ship building in Chelsea or the
ship they started shutting down the ship building industry as
a whole. You guys are saying ship clip, ship building.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
Yes, like going to the ship.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
We're going to the ship. Yeah yeah, yeah, okay, like
the Knicks don't okay. Hey we got that Sting doing
that whole theme concert on the shipbuilding industry.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
Yeah, we got the Queen Mary coming in. We got all.
Speaker 5 (04:02):
You mocked me, you mocked my passions and love for
a man giving an ode to the I'm picturing spinal
Tap doing the Stonehenge stuff.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
You know.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
It was not a parody. You know, the staying in
the ship building is really gotta go see that. Is
Gordon Lightfoot gonna come out and do record the Edmund Fitzgerald?
Speaker 3 (04:23):
Is he gonna do that? That would be a nice
little ship. We have things about ships.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
Okay, very good, Okay, very good.
Speaker 5 (04:28):
Now if they did different, starship is gonna come out nice.
We built this city, isn't. Yeah he's hanging out with
Shaggy right now again, Who's who does? Starships are meant
to fly that Nicki Minaj? Starships meant Nicki Minaj? Right, Yeah,
we can do anything with it with a ship.
Speaker 3 (04:44):
I'm on board for that show too. By the way,
if you add her in.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
Okay, I'll I'm gonna get people gonna come by some cards.
People are gonna come dressed as ships, staying. Um, here
is the uss whatever that I try to offer the
world a piece of me in my heart and I'm
mocked so round.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
I'm here is the youth told a long, convoluted story.
Speaker 5 (05:07):
And how you're vandalizing bathrooms across Los Angeles?
Speaker 1 (05:11):
No sea stuff written about me? I'm dressing the avenger shit.
I started talking about sea stuff with ships. I'm the
ship that brought the Iron Man and and uh and
that Nebula back.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
I'm that ship. I'm dressed as that ship. Everybody come
dresses a ship.
Speaker 5 (05:28):
Now that's cosplay on a whole other level. This guy,
we he took up eight seats on a bus, the ship, top.
Speaker 3 (05:35):
Gun, the dam to land on and take off from
on that ship. We're all dressed and ships. It's great.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
People just bumping into each other because I can't get
close because the front of the ship is really guess what,
my cockpit won't open. Ah, that's that's a different.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
That's a different. That's a that's a that's a ship
in the air, still a ship.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
So, uh, look, this gets us this. We got Mark
Stein coming up with more on this story, but this
gets us. Look, the Aaron Rodgers drama seemingly is over
and now it's about what we're gonna see on the
fielding Right, he signed one year, thirteen million. We found
it over the week, and he's gonna wear number eight.
Maybe he's married. Maybe he's not got that stealth picture
(06:18):
of whatever hematite ring or whatever that is he's wearing
that you know that you could buy like in uh
get the you know, anthropology, I don't know, you know,
but all the stuff with Aaron.
Speaker 5 (06:29):
Rodgers, that is the most random stre that you can
possibly come up with.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
So but you know what I'm saying, I have a yeah,
anthropology that a complete and till I get that ring in anthropology.
But look to take this Aaron Rodgers conversation in a
different direction, is that now that he's here in Pittsburgh
and we told you how the season's gonna likely go right,
Pittsburgh's gonna be Okay, Rogers will have his moments, but
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in the end it won't be enough because Rogers is
is kind of washed and I don't know that he is.
He is locked in and cares about succeeding as a
quarterback like he has in his career. Waited so long
to sign you sold the last couple of years of
the Jets, Like is he still motivated or is he
still well, I'm still an NFL player and I get
(07:18):
to do a lot of things and be high profile
because I still play in the league.
Speaker 3 (07:21):
Right, I'm not sold. That's him.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
So that's how it's gonna go for Aaron Rodgers. It
is can be very much like Russell Wilson last year,
where it's gonna be boy, he had some moments, but
in the end, We'll be in December going are they
gonna turn to Will Howard? Is it Will Howard's turn?
Is it Mason Rudolph's turn? Is it Terry Bradshaw's turn
to come back? So that's how it's gonna go for Rogers.
But the but a bigger thing is that if Rogers fails,
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this is Mike Tomlin's last year with the Steelers. He
has fired or there's a mutual decision where he is
done because he has tried to build this team. Now, however,
how he's won. He and Omar Kahn since Ben Roethlisberger retired,
didn't look at the past couple of years of Roethlisberger.
He couldn't really throw. Everything was really short. We've talked
about this and now they've gone into the next post
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Roethlisberger era by trying to shop in the bargain bin
for quarterbacks. Oh, we get Justin Fields for nothing. We
can get Russell Wilson for nothing. We can get Aaron
Rodgers for nothing. This is not a good strategy. And
Mike Tomlin, this strategy of winning has been out of
style in the NFL.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
For thirty years. I get that you don't.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
Like the drama that you had to deal with with
Roethlisberger and Le'Veon Bell and Antonio Brown. But guess what,
you need a guy that can throw the football. You
can't go cheap in the most important position to expect
to win. This is a bad strategy, and Mike Tomlin's
gonna go down with go down with the strategy of
These were the guys that I picked at the end
in These are the guys we picked at the end
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in Pittsburgh. And I'm good because if they don't win
this year, they're done. The Mike Tomlin experience is over
and it's time to move on someplace else with a
more modern NFL coach that gets how it is to
build a team in twenty twenty five, because clearly Mike
Tomlin all offensively doesn't. I still want to run the
football a ton, I want to play great defense, want
the quarterback to be necessary. Evil. I'm sorry you saw
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what happened. Bill Belichick tried to build a team that
went back in time thirty years and look where he
is now, barely holding on at North Carolina team. He
hasn't coached a game four yet the same thing is
going to be Doe with Tomlin. If this Aaron Rodgers
thing doesn't work, Mike Tomlin is going to be out now.
He'll get a new job someplace else. Maybe he waits
a year because Tomlin's still a young guy, still a
very successful guy. But Pittsburgh, this is it. And it
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baffles me that this is how Mike Tomlin has hitched
his wagon to the last three quarterbacks, knowing that at
some point Pittsburgh's going to run out of patience, that
it's Fields and Wilson and Rogers. Where the guys that
he says, Yep, here's one casting my lot in with
to potentially take the Steelers out and have them win
when it's going to be another year the same old stuff.
(09:50):
They'll compete for a while, but they're not going to
have enough at the end of the year and it's
going to be dude, you really thought you were going
to win with these guys. We need somebody new that
gets offense, that gets what it's like to build a
team in twenty twenty five.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
This is it.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
Tomlin's done. If this doesn't work.
Speaker 5 (10:05):
Yeah, we talked a lot about Arthur Smith's offense in
Pittsburgh and going back to Tennessee, and trying to determine
what the next iteration would be, and with Justin Fields,
it looked like it at a place, but they didn't
want to meet whatever that price was, or he didn't
want to come back, whatever.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
Story you want to believe.
Speaker 5 (10:23):
I believe the latter more than the former of all right,
you did me wrong, I'm gonna go find my new
opportunities somewhere else. The fact that it's the Jets, all right,
We'll watch how that unfolds for you and live and
die with you with each snap there. But the Aaron
Rodgers part of it, again owing to your Jets, is
year one was an incomplete You got four snaps last year.
(10:46):
Depends what you want to believe in terms of what
that second half was. Was it good? The overall numbers say, okay,
there's some positive.
Speaker 3 (10:55):
Things you can hand handing on it, and.
Speaker 5 (10:57):
Maybe you say, well, we get a piece of a
guy that for one year is motivated. He's in a
big spot, big marquee team, worldwide, global interest to all
of that kind of stuff, and still has some throws
left in his arm. Now do I think they need
to go out and get another wide receiver? I don't
know how good Roman Wilson is, I don't know. I
got DK Metcalf and I got pat Freyermouth. Jalen Warren's
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a pretty good running back. And then we'll figure out
what you have beyond that. But the wide receiving court
could probably use it up a little more of an upgrade.
So I'm keeping an eye on all these disgruntled wide
receivers because they have an awful lot of draft selections
at their disposal for twenty twenty six. Right, and that's
where we go to there. I wanted to read a
tweet because I thought this was funny, would make you laugh.
(11:43):
This is from Jerry Dulac there in Pittsburgh Post Gazette
getting ready to cover the US Open this week. But
this is the gem he gave us.
Speaker 3 (11:50):
Quote. Give the Steelers credit.
Speaker 5 (11:52):
They have signed two starting quarterbacks who are future Hall
of Famers for less than twenty million dollars total. Aim
another organization to pull that off off. I can't all
right talking about the contract because I saw a bunch
of the Wow, they really overpaid in June. Normally it's
bargain basement. This deal was done. We were talking about
this for two months. It's just now they inked it.
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It's been sitting there with all the incentives waiting to
be signed, and now he comes in and we see
how quickly they can get up to speed. Yeah, it's
a big bet for Tomlin. I just wonder if he
doesn't have the lifetime pass that with Steelers' ownership that
at no point that they'll ever say, see ye.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
There's there's a different sort of standard. They definitely wait
a long time before they move on from coaches. But
they're at the end. They're at the end of that run.
Speaker 3 (12:38):
Now there never had a losing They're at.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
The end of that run. There's different standards, and clearly
it's not getting better. They haven't found the quarterback they need.
They need an offensive mind. This is where the NFL
le did an offensive mind and coach him to be
in the in the in the twenty twenties.
Speaker 3 (12:53):
Can we get one of the the roonies to stand
up and say, hey, January.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
Matters, trust me, this doesn't. That's it. Mike Tommin will
be out in Pittsburgh after this season. Coming up next,
we got Mark Stein stopping by NBA Insider. He's got
the latest on his story. The Nix and Jason kidd,
is it happening? When's it happening? How could it happen?
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Fox Sports Radio The Jason Smith Show with My best
friend Mike Harmon. Dodgers and Padres six to six in
the top of the ninth. Play I've missed this rivalry,
first time they played all season. How great is this?
I mean, I've missed this out of anger, a lot
of hate. Says better than Yankees Red Sox, no question
about it. We'll have more on this game coming up again.
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Dodgers and the Padres six' six in the top of the.
Ninth but we have THE Nba final set to resume
On wednesday, Night game. Three, meanwhile maybe The knicks will
have their new head coach by? Then Mark stein reporting
late last week about the potential interest that The knicks
had would have In Jason kidd and today mutual, attraction
(15:32):
mutual intrigue Between Jason kidd and The. Knicks does this
mean The knicks have their new head? Coach Mark stein
joins us on the hotline right. Now he's On twitter
at The, Steinline, mark what's, happening?
Speaker 3 (15:44):
Man how are you?
Speaker 6 (15:45):
Guys i'm.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
GOOD i, SAID i thought you would, like do you
like text me this inside info before you came out with.
IT i was Hoping i'd be able to get that
a little heads up. First but, hey all, right bet.
Speaker 6 (15:56):
That that is never gonna.
Speaker 7 (15:58):
Happen but but BUT i did want to come on
TO i, really just BECAUSE i wanted to hear is
you KNOW i want to hear what you THINK i want?
Speaker 6 (16:07):
TO i, mean you you are The.
Speaker 7 (16:08):
Knicks you are the Official knicks correspondent Of Fox Sports,
Radio so, like is this what you?
Speaker 6 (16:13):
Want?
Speaker 1 (16:14):
Hey Jason kidd has been able to look he's been
extremely successful nine years as a.
Speaker 3 (16:19):
Coach.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
Uh he is someone who has been through almost every
single Circumstance he's coached big time. Talent he has coached
a lot of, egos he has coached different. Markets he
knows what it's like to play In New. YORK i
don't know that you could do a lot. Better i'm
short of Convincing Steve Kerr Eric spolster to. LEAVE i know,
though that you can do better Than Jason kidd at
this point to come in who may bring you honest with?
(16:42):
Him you never. Know that could be something that. Happens so,
Yeah i'm in On Jason.
Speaker 3 (16:46):
Kidd.
Speaker 7 (16:48):
Man it sounds like you're spending a lot of time
On Nix.
Speaker 6 (16:50):
Twitter but, ANYWAY i.
Speaker 3 (16:51):
Think so he might be Running Nick's. Twitter mark could
be all.
Speaker 7 (16:57):
Men, LOOK i think a lot of what you said
there is. RIGHT i. Mean Tom, thibodeau whether you are
a fan or not a, fan was the most Successful
knicks coach of the twenty first, century and one of
the difficult aspects of.
Speaker 6 (17:15):
Trying to analyze the aftermask.
Speaker 7 (17:18):
Of The knicks deciding to move on From Tom thibodeau
is they their next steps are not. Clear every coach
they've been really linked with its. Kid It's Ema, udoka
It's Chris. Finch these are all coaches who have jobs
there are some very good coaches out, there some very
accomplished coaches who are, available but nobody's talking About Michael
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malone Or Mike, brown Or Mike budenholzer Or Taylor. Jenkins
Frank vogel is a consultant for The, mavericks but he's
essentially a free agent if.
Speaker 6 (17:52):
You want him as a head.
Speaker 7 (17:53):
COACH i, mean those five coaches, alone three of them
have won. Championships nobody's talking about those. Guys all the
focus has Been kid and then you, know there's been
some chatter About, udoka but The rockets have made it
pretty clear that they would rebuff any interest in. Him
you've heard Some Chris finch, mentioned but look what you
(18:13):
said is very. True Jason kidd has played for The,
knicks So dolan knows. Him Jason kidds last year as
a player was the last fifty win team that The
knicks had Until thibodeau had a couple of fifty win.
Seasons so he also coached The. Nets he played for The,
nets so he is very familiar with what it's like
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to play in The New York, spotlight play with the
got the media machine all. Over you, know he's played
in that. Environment he's coached in that, environment he is
very strong at building relationships with. Players And i'm and you,
LOOK i wrote it as you said Last, tuesday the
night the same night that we got the news That
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Tom thibodeau is. Out the first two NAMES i Or
Jason kidd and Hema. Udoka AND i do think the
kid interest has been. Undeniable it's, real it's, there but
just there are so many questions about can they actually
get him because he's under contract for two more years In,
dallas and The MAVs can if The knicks formally try
(19:20):
to come after, him The MAVs can just say we're
not allowing it and we're not having.
Speaker 6 (19:26):
It all.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
Right, WELL i think, too say, one we can just
Offer nico a, Trade he'll say.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
Uh the second one is that if there's mutual interest
or mutual, INTRIGUE i kind of feel, like you, Know
Jason kidd wants to, go and can you come back
to coach a team when you've kind of basically you.
Speaker 7 (19:46):
KNOW I that's WHERE i. Differ, LOOK i DON'T i you,
Know i'm Based. Dallas you guys, KNOW i spend a
lot of time covering The MAVERICKS I i think that
is a mischaracter is in terms OF i do not
Think Jason kidd is angling to get The knicks. Job
AND i know, people you know people remember that he
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coached The nets for one, season made his way To,
milwaukee and so that's being dredged up as.
Speaker 6 (20:13):
He's doing it. Again he's trying to get enough.
Speaker 7 (20:15):
KNOWN i think it's a situation WHERE i don't know
many coaches in the. LEAGUE i don't know many coaches assistant, Coaches,
like if The knicks are interested in, YOU i don't
think you're going to rebuff that, INTEREST i, think BUT
i don't think he's looking to. LEAVE i, mean let's
(20:39):
just since The mavericks won the draft lottery On may,
Twelfth Jason kidd's been deployed by The. Mavericks he's been
operating as their spokesman on all Things Cooper. Flag he's
done he did The Dan Patrick, show he did our
SHOW Dlf MAVs for The All City, network he did
a local radio, interview and he did a LOCAL Tv
(21:02):
Things now In. Dallas so he's been making all these
appearances talking about how excited he is to Coach Cooper.
Flag for this story to either advance or go. AWAY
i really feel like it's it's one of two things
at this. Point either The mavericks on or off the
record have to make it be known that they're not
(21:23):
going to entertain, this or The knicks have to make
it known that they're chasing somebody.
Speaker 6 (21:30):
Else neither one of those things have.
Speaker 7 (21:32):
Happened and until one of those things, happens This Jason
kid talked he was going to.
Speaker 5 (21:38):
Continue got to be very excited to coach the kid From,
duke no question about, It, mark in terms of what
that team could. BE i, mean we talked about it
a bunch after the trade. Transpired but you, know for,
Me i'd be you, know a little bit sad if
it went down this fast if it ended up Being Jason,
kid BECAUSE i wanted to Torment smith with about fifteen
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different opportunit unities of guys to talk with his.
Speaker 3 (22:02):
Squad.
Speaker 7 (22:04):
Well the other thing, too when you look at it,
is you, Know Anthony davis And Kyrie irving are here
as The MAVs new cornerstone.
Speaker 6 (22:12):
Pairing, Now Kyrie irving.
Speaker 7 (22:14):
We don't know when we'll see him back from THE
Acl terry's At january Of, february but Like Kyrie irving
a big part of his success since becoming a Mav
and he'll tell you he's loved playing For jason Kidds
AND i think If Kyrie irving And Anthony davis are
on the, team it's kind of. Hard like that's why to,
ME i, Mean i'm Just i'm a little surprised that
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The MAVs haven't more forcefully shut this down because those,
GUYS i would, imagine do not want a new. Coach and, again,
yeah like he has, been he has been the spokesman
for all Things. Flag and, here look one more variable
here is you, Know Cooper flag is going to be
In dallas a week from today making his first visit To.
Speaker 6 (22:58):
Dallas you, know.
Speaker 7 (22:59):
A week can change before they actually draft. Him and,
like is this story still going to be you, know
Is Jason smith's dream of Getting Jason kidd on The knicks?
Bench is this still going to be rumbling on a
week from? NOW i don't know the ANSWERS.
Speaker 1 (23:14):
Nba Insider Mark, stein our Guest Jason, Smith Mike carmon
live from The Fox Sports radio. Studios all, right IF
i could say to, you so you, said one of
those two things has to happen for this story to.
Speaker 3 (23:25):
Advance what do.
Speaker 1 (23:26):
You think is more likely The mavericks let their intentions be,
no BECAUSE i can't believe The mavericks want to do
The knicks any favors After Jalen. Brunton but If Jason
kidd wants to go do The, mavericks let something be
known about how they. Feel or is it The knicks
that push it, by as you, say saying they're going
to talk to somebody? Else which do you think?
Speaker 7 (23:41):
HAPPENED i think at this point it's going to move
forward from The knicks, side, BECAUSE i, mean the mass
this has been going, this this chatter has been going
on for almost a. WEEK i, mean they Fired Tom
thibodeau Last, tuesday and as you rightly, noted it was
Last tuesday night THAT i posted the story WHERE i
said the Tune, Anames i'm hearing that interest The knicks
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Are Jason kidd And Email. Udoka and WHEN i checked
it out on The houston, side you, know the whispered
WORD i got back was if The knicks try to
come For Email, udoka that will be closed off and
shut down. Immediately you, know it's not just, me other
reporters have sought this same kind of messaging from The
MAVs and we just haven't heard. It, praise you, know
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phrase like that that it would automatically be. Dismissed and
SO i think we're going to hear that The knicks
are going to continue to try to see if there's
a pathway To Jason kidd or if they Discover and
look what happens in THE nba with all, teams there's
all kinds of back channel discussions that were not privy
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to and so the state of those how much that's,
happening you, KNOW i can't tell you.
Speaker 6 (24:53):
YET i don't have.
Speaker 7 (24:54):
Enough to to you, know know exactly where all that.
Stands but you, know, again The knicks have not come
out and said, no all you guys who are talking
About Jason kidd are. Wrong and if they don't until
they say we have moved on to other, TARGETS i
think this rumbles.
Speaker 5 (25:15):
On, mark we a couple of days off before we
get To game three of the. Finals you get The
halliburton Shot game, one and then an absolute domination situation
with that little spurt slice of life For, indiana but
overall thunder have dominated. This does that change it all
going back To, indiana do they get a home court.
Speaker 3 (25:35):
BOOST i, MEAN i think.
Speaker 6 (25:38):
There would be.
Speaker 7 (25:39):
SOME i, mean it's just interesting That halliburton hit that
incredible shot and just now he's you, know he's going.
Speaker 6 (25:46):
To hear for you, know all day, today all day
tomorrow that he's.
Speaker 7 (25:49):
Not doing, enough he's not being aggressive. Enough and look
he's you, know apart from the, shot he's had a rough.
Series BUT i Think Oklahoma city has a lot to
do with. THAT i, Mean caliburton has struggled Against Oklahoma
city in the, past and to be, honest a lot
of guys struggling In Oklahoma city because they are a defensive.
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MONSTER i MEAN i talk to you guys almost every
week and we've discussed this almost every, week that these
guys are just relentless on the defensive. End they've got
tons of you, know it's not Just, dort it's the
supplemental defenders that they can throw at him when it's Not,
dort and there's just there are no possessions off against the.
Thunder and so the thing, THOUGH i would, say is
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That halliburton seems to perform best when he is being
ripped and, dissed and you know he's Gonna i'm sure.
He's you, know most guys you would, say tune it
out with, Him i'm, saying you, know tune, in you,
know listen to it and see IF i see if
he can use, it because he seems to. Do he
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seems to he's he seems to get a lot out
of flights and, critics you.
Speaker 1 (27:01):
Know but that's the thing that gets me about, Him,
mark is that at some, point when you're a, superstar you,
understand LIKE, sga even IF i can affect the, Game
i'm going to get to the free throw line'm and
to get my teammates, involved like that's what MVPs. Do
like at some, Point haliburton's got to UNDERSTAND i got
to bring it like this every, Game like how many
TIMES i need to see a story where, oh Now i'm.
Speaker 3 (27:21):
Motivated it's THE.
Speaker 1 (27:22):
Nba you shouldn't need the naysayers to motivate you to
get you to play at a high.
Speaker 7 (27:26):
Level and you're, right AND i think THAT'S i think
that's why that we're probably discounting how much the thunder
have to do with, this and the thunder like you,
know being more, Aggressive, well The thunder makes don't make that.
Easy they just you, know they are uniquely suited to
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make life really really.
Speaker 6 (27:48):
Hard on not Just, halibert a lot of of.
Speaker 7 (27:52):
Lot you, know we had the same questions About Anthony,
edwards you, know given the you, know the offensive limitations
of the guys around, him could he do an things
against the Thunder and.
Speaker 6 (28:06):
You, Know, haliburton even though he plays a.
Speaker 7 (28:08):
Different position in a different style, game is you, know
facing that same challenge.
Speaker 6 (28:13):
Now but.
Speaker 7 (28:15):
The pacers are routinely written off and they're here in the,
final so two games, IN i don't want to overreact
because that's the other thing we, do especially with these you,
know play a game two days, off play a game
two days, off and it's just we we we hyper
analyze one, result and So i'm trying to resist.
Speaker 1 (28:34):
That check him out On twitter at The, steinline that
is at The, steinline and on substack all the latest
on The knicks And Jason Kidd mark as, always great.
Stuff thank you so. Much we'll talk to you this
week as this as the finals go, on or if
The knicks Get Jason kidd will call you in the
middle of the.
Speaker 7 (28:50):
Night just wait for that, text never, know never knowing
it might pop in.
Speaker 3 (28:55):
There you're the. Best thanks marg we'll talk to. You
we'll talk to you later.
Speaker 6 (28:59):
On do you guys.
Speaker 1 (29:01):
There he goes great.
Speaker 3 (29:02):
Stuffs.
Speaker 1 (29:02):
Awesome, oh it's a great. Stuff wait for that. Text
wait for that. Text i'm not gonna do. That you're
gonna be sitting all. Night BUT i wanted to come.
UP i, mean, look IT'S i feel like it's a
really dangerous thing when you let it be known That
i'm open to, talking especially when it's not like he's
going into a. Lane duck Here jason, Katebore, Hey i'm watching.
You they just gave him a lot of money last
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year and gave an extension last.
Speaker 3 (29:25):
Year got to the. Bot this could be your, Guy Danny,
hurley always getting.
Speaker 1 (29:28):
You but but do you let it be known this
early that, hey there's mutual, intrigue or do you, say,
hey let's redo my. Deal oh, no, wait you're not
going to there's mutual. Intrigue this is really.
Speaker 5 (29:41):
Fast but for me is trying to define what mutual
intrigue is and something we've been talking about over the
course of the, night trying to define it as opposed
to a late night movie that you might have stumbled
upon at some point in your youthful. Exuberance but just
how much is all? Right just any that comes, in
let's hear, him let's hear it. Out and Then dallas
(30:05):
can tell me how much they love, me or if
they're not telling me how much they love, me that
maybe we do open this up to a bigger, discussion
because at this point there's been to my knowledge And
mark didn't say it.
Speaker 3 (30:18):
Here that there's no official.
Speaker 5 (30:22):
Notice to, say, hey we want to talk to, him
because that's the first step at any of, this right
going back to your fever dream in the poster on
the wall Of Eric spolstra Or Steve. Kerr, YEAH i
still want to make that, happen But i'd be okay
there wearing the uniform of The bulls or going back
to His arizona.
Speaker 3 (30:40):
DAYS i don't.
Speaker 5 (30:41):
Know but all of that to, say it's you, know
they've got to do that first, step which to this
point hasn't.
Speaker 1 (30:47):
Happened let's find out what's trending right now in the
wide world of, sports And Martin white what he got for.
Speaker 3 (30:52):
Us we've got extra baseball here on The West.
Speaker 8 (30:54):
Coast The dodgers just took a seven to six lead
in the top of the tenth, Inning maximunsey crossing home
Plate Andy pias with the single at the double rather
seven to six the score top of the tenth, inning
and it looked like it was gonna be A diamondbacks
easy win. Here but The mariners have roared back in
the top of the ninth, inning now four to four
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With Kyle rowley, up and you know he's got to
pinch it to hit home. Runs so keep you updated
on that. One earlier today we saw The reds beat
The guardians seven to, Four The pirates beat The marlins
ten to, Three phillies and extras beat The cubs four to,
three and also in, extras The rays beat The Red
sox ten to. Eight Red sox brought up there outfield
(31:37):
there their number one, Prospect Roman. Anthony he played right,
fields he drew a walk and got AN. Rbi The
braves have a seven to one win over The, Brewers
Blue jays an extra innings five to four over The.
Cardinals The angels beat The a's seven to four in
THE nhl The Stanley.
Speaker 3 (31:56):
Cup, Final game.
Speaker 8 (31:57):
Three in the, Books Brad marshan put one in the
back of the net for The Florida panthers in the first,
minute and they never looked. Back florida won six to,
one now is a two to one series. Lead The
oilers did start a series of fights in the third
period as the game got out of. Hand The Green
Bay packers released Cornerback Jayere Alexander Jermaine, pratt veteran linebacker
for The, bengals has also been. Released Nick, chubb Former Cleveland,
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brown pass this. Physical he's officially going to spend the
next year At, Houston. Texan Indianapolis coults announced their new
ownership plan following the passing Of Jim.
Speaker 3 (32:30):
Irsay his three daughters will each have a stake in the.
Speaker 8 (32:33):
Team Carly Ursa gordon the new owner AND ceo with a.
Franchise cavalers Guard Darius garland will miss the start of next.
Season heeds four or five months to recover from toe
surgery And indiana. Fever car To Caitlin clark will miss
her fifth straight game tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (32:49):
Night against The Atlanta.
Speaker 8 (32:50):
Dream i'm sorry tonight against The Atlanta dream because of
her quad strain. Fever head Coach Stephanie white says the
team will be cautious With clark as she comes back
into the. Lineup dodgers tack another one on eight to.
Six going to the bottom of the ninth, inning The
mariners and The diamondbacks four to.
Speaker 1 (33:07):
Four back to you, Guys Thanks, Martin Jason Smith Mike
harmon live from The Fox Sports Radio. Studios coming up. Next,
well we talked About Aaron rodgers earlier this. Hour what's
next for him and The? Steelers what about what's next
for another big time quarterback in the news the last
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Speaker 1 (33:35):
Radio The Jason Smith show with my best Friend Mike. Harmon,
well the best rivalry in baseball is just in another.
Level we'll get to that coming up in about twelve. Minutes, but, uh,
look we talked About Aaron rodgers earlier this.
Speaker 3 (33:49):
Hour now the.
Speaker 5 (33:52):
Fact that he has signed seal, delivered that drama is.
OVER i thought you were gonna start singing.
Speaker 1 (33:56):
It, well HERE i, Am i'm your Uh and now
we turn our attention to the next. Quarterback we're waiting
to see if he finds a new. Location That's Kirk.
Cousins he is coming to mandatory mini. Camp yeah, right
The falcons said he's. Coming they owe him a lot
of money after signing for that four, year one hundred
and sixty million dollar contract last. Year he is the
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backup quarterbacks a lot of. Money It's Michael Pennock junior
paying a guy. Out And i'll tell you what this
is where The. FALCONS i watched them over the course
last year AND i realized by some organizations just don't
know what they're doing or don't have a long term.
Plan you Signed Kirk, cousins, great four years For, okay
he's your. Guy, nope we're gonna Get Michael Pennock. Junior
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why would you do? That you know he's gonna have
to play you, know the world of THE. Nfl you
can't see here when he gets drafted cancer here say,
well If kirk plays well for two, years forget. It
you know the guy's gonna see the field in year
one because you draft them in the high part of
the first. Round that's just. Stupid that's just. Stupid if
you think we can handle it, Here, no that's not
(34:59):
how world. Works so now they're, stuck, Right But, okay
they had their chance to move on From Kirk cousins
by dealing, him eating whatever money they could, eat and
move on from him during free agency or, before you,
know before the, draft and now they're stuck and it's
they're gonna wind up having to release him and eating
money because it's just gonna be awkward because again they, go,
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oh we're okay With kirk being the. Backup, yeah it
doesn't go that. Great doesn't go well when your former
starter that you paid a lot of money to is
backing up a younger. Guy does not go. Well but The,
falcons they don't know what they're. Doing so it makes
me feel LIKE i know how this is gonna. End
it's gonna end with them having to cut him to
figure out some kind of. Bite they're gonna have to
eat more money than what if they traded him for
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just whatever they could get earlier in the. Offseason because
now there's no spots for. Him no one's gonna, say,
boy we'd Like Kirk cousins to come in as a bridge.
Quarterback the only place there is is as a, backup
and there'll be a lot of If Kirk cousins is,
Free hey interest him as a. Backup, absolutely he will
have a lot of teams to choose to, say, well
this might be my quickest path to being a, starter
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But i'm coming in as a.
Speaker 3 (36:04):
Backup.
Speaker 1 (36:04):
Right no one's saying right, now, hey we got a spot,
Open we're gonna leave this open for. You so they
waited too, long they screwed, themselves and now they're going
to wind up at some point having to, say, okay
we'll figure out we're buying Out Kirk cousins and he's
going to be a free agent someone signs into be
a backup where maybe he can ascend if there's an
injury or if you have a quarterback doesn't. Perform they
have biffed this from the from the drafting Of Michael Pennix.
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Junior they have biffed this because they have shown you
they're a franchise without a. Plan let's just get a
bunch of a couple of. Quarterbacks well we'll make it
work from. There, okay but with the money you put into,
it it showed me you don't know what you're.
Speaker 3 (36:37):
Doing.
Speaker 1 (36:38):
REALLY i failed to see there any cohesive plan from
The falcons since the beginning of last.
Speaker 3 (36:45):
Offseason, YEAH i.
Speaker 5 (36:47):
THINK i go back to the idea of bringing him
in Penis. In DID i love? It, no we were
on draft night and we went through. It but you
also have the permutation and the calculation, of all, right veteran,
quarter this is the guy we. Like let's make our.
Bet And i've always been an advocate of if you
found your guy and you want to back, it have at.
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It just know what it brings with it if it goes.
Wrong and right now it's gone. Sideways he didn't play,
well he had to, sit whether it was his health or.
Whatever what you put on tape is what you put on.
Tape and now panis is your? Guy now how uncomfortable
a situation is? It If Arthur blank's cool with, it all,
right let's watch, It Stew but how good is that
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for the locker?
Speaker 2 (37:32):
Room all?
Speaker 5 (37:33):
Right or are you just sitting there with voted candles
to the football gods hoping somebody gets hurt and in
an act of, Desperation, tada here's what we, have, right
because that would start to become a little bit of
the speculation With Aaron, Rodgers, right is he?
Speaker 3 (37:46):
Waiting is he done with? Football is he gonna go
walk the.
Speaker 5 (37:50):
Earth is he gonna go To pittsburgh or is he
waiting for something else to. Materialize, either a team Like
minnesota DECIDES jj McCarthy's not their. Guy he's not, Ready
so at the last eleventh hour they throw the.
Speaker 3 (38:03):
Hail mary to him and bring him.
Speaker 5 (38:05):
In in this, case now you're stuck with a guy
that you paid a lot of guaranteed money, too because
that's the other part Of Kirk cousins never never suffers
as a fool in terms of the dollars and cents
of it. All, so, yeah you're gonna if You're Arthur
blank at this, point you're gonna have a lot more
hot dog days and you're gonna Beg chick Fil a to.
Speaker 1 (38:25):
Open but On, Sunday, wow we really got to bail the.
Speaker 3 (38:30):
Fight we that we did that percentage of chicken sandwich.
Speaker 1 (38:34):
Sales, please nothing has made them open On sundays. Yet The, Falcons,
MAN i need you to do.
Speaker 3 (38:40):
Me it's solid right. Here how about we got to
pay out forty million a year to this. Guy help us.
Speaker 1 (38:44):
Out can you just just you, know maybe how about
One sunday a. Month it gets us an extra sixty
two and a half cents per. Sandwich come, on we
can pay help us, out. Man, really The, FALCONS i
feel like they're doing like a paint by numbers. Thing
learn as you, go you know that this is this
is how to run AN nfl. Franchise like Signing Kirk.
Cousins not a bad move Signing Kirk, cousins Drafting Michael
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penck or not signing a quarterback Drafting Michael. Pennix good
move Signing Kirk. Cousins Drafting Michael? Penox what are you?
Doing just made me do. It you got to that
crossroads a lot faster than you thought.
Speaker 3 (39:16):
You needed to get. There right, again, understanding not. Understanding
you can say down the road all you.
Speaker 1 (39:22):
Want when you draft a quarterback in the first, round
he's gonna play that. Year we said it all season,
Long Michael pennox is gonna be the. Quarterback turned out
to be a little bit later than we, thought but
still he lost his. Job he's not.
Speaker 5 (39:32):
STARTING i Thought kirk was gonna have to stink for
that to, Happen and what, Happened he's.
Speaker 1 (39:37):
Stunk there was only one problem With Kirk cousins last
only one problem with only one one problem everything that went.
On one, problem you know what that?
Speaker 3 (39:44):
Is what's that he? Stunk he? Did that was the
only problem there.
Speaker 1 (39:48):
Was that was the only one there.
Speaker 5 (39:49):
WAS i, mean you're speaking truths truth here On Fox Sports, Radio.
Speaker 1 (39:53):
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