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A quick update from the NBA.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
Kevin Durant's not going to get to thirty thousand points tonight.
Still needs a little bit over seventy five. He's got nineteen,
but the Sons are thumping the Warriors one O two
eighty seven.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
Steph Curry just hit double digits.
Speaker 4 (01:09):
For this game.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
He has ten points on four out of eleven shooting.
The Sons are running away with us and I'm telling you,
the more time that goes on, you're starting to see
a little bit of the Steph Curry. Is he still
as good as he was staying in the in the
Golden State Warriors. If he wants to win, he's gotta
go someplace else. He's this has to be something where
he approaches it with Golden State saying, I want to
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try to win. We can find a way where I
leave very amicably and everybody's gonna still love me. But
it's gonna be tough.
Speaker 5 (01:39):
Man.
Speaker 4 (01:39):
Just if he decides I want to.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
Be a one spore, a one team superstar, it's gonna
be really rough the next few years watching him just
score points in obscurity, where basically every year is maybe
they make the plan, because that's what the word, Maybe
they make the plane. We're gonna watch Steph Curry go
from wowo the dynasty they had with Golden State, and
(02:02):
they could never figure it out around him after that,
and he had like ten empty years, you know, the
last few years of his career all the way till then.
He was still really good into his late thirties. He
could still score twenty five or thirty in a game.
That's gonna be really tough just watching him just fade
away because the Warriors just look, they just don't they
don't move the needle like they used to. It's still
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the image of the Warriors, and you think of the Warriors,
you think about winning the titles, you think about the
Splash brothers and Draymond, but now it's like, yeah, the
Warriors are no good and oh does Steph having a
big night? And that's it, and that's where the Warriors
are at. That's gonna continue to be. That's gonna be.
Speaker 4 (02:40):
A rough watch.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
As rough as it was to watch Damian Lillard, you know,
score forty and fifty in a game for Portland when
they had no chance to do anything, it's gonna be
rougher for the Warriors if Steph stays here the rest
of his career.
Speaker 6 (02:50):
Well, you didn't pay attention to Dame Lillard doing anything
out there. So yeah, it was us on the radio
because it was on during our window. The rest of
the universe was asleep, especially NBA wise, guys on the
East Coast didn't give a damn whether Portland was playing
well or not. He and CJ McCollum lighting it up
late on True TV. No nobody cared as Steph. I
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mean he got his extra title right, proved himself after
the the end of things with Durant and all. But yeah,
he's got to decide how long do you want to
ride this out? Because you're still a great player. They're
still going to come to see your show, just it's
it's a little different. It's a little faded.
Speaker 7 (03:34):
You know.
Speaker 6 (03:34):
The the drapes and everything else are still like the seventies.
You know, like like say you went to the see
the prices right and they didn't update the studio at all,
Like at some point you got it. You can't just
live in the time machine. And for Steph, yeah, those
system quarterback things. We have a number of people asking
if you've reached out to KNBR to see if they
want to talk to you now.
Speaker 4 (03:56):
Yeah, eventually they will.
Speaker 7 (03:58):
They don't get mad anymore because they don't relevant.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
They'll want to eventually. It's we can't we can't admit.
Jason was right about this. We can't admit. And there's
people that I know that work up there that unfollowed
me on Twitter because they don't like my take on
Steph Kurk.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
That's okay, Like really. I mean it's insane.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
No, no, not that we got in a fight on
Twitter or anything else, because I'm not that guy. Not
that I said something bad about So. I said something,
you know, electric outside of sports, though.
Speaker 7 (04:27):
I don't like your takes on Steph Curry.
Speaker 4 (04:29):
So they unfollowed me on Twitter.
Speaker 8 (04:30):
Because have you since they did that?
Speaker 4 (04:32):
I can't, Man, it's very difficult, it's very fun.
Speaker 6 (04:35):
I mean, I know there's one unfollowed that it still
breaks your soul.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
I just I just lay in bed at night, just
think Wan Soto, Wan Soto, eighteen days to Wan Sodo,
seventeen days to Wan Soto, sixteen days to Wan Soda.
Speaker 4 (04:48):
Let's keep thinking of that. That's all I gotta do.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
Uh Now in the NFL, couple of big moves today,
right we we we talked a few minutes ago.
Speaker 4 (04:55):
Uh, We're gonna get into.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
Next hour again, what's going on with arch Manning Heisman
Trophy favorite Shador Sanders should be absolutely funneled to the Giants.
But now Aaron Rodgers' future has been questioned after the
news today because the Jets went and got a new
offensive coordinator. And again, if you told me five years ago, hey,
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teams are going to be raiding the Lions for their coaches.
I would say, come on, man, no one's rating the
Lions for anybody.
Speaker 4 (05:24):
No, no, no, that is absolutely what is happening.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
So now the Lions lost Aaron Glenn to be the
head coach of the Jets, lost Ben Johnson to be
the head coach of the Chicago Bears. Other coaches has left,
and now Tanner Engstron is leaving to become the Jets
offensive coordinator. He was their passing game coordinator for the
past four years, been on Dan Campbell's staff. And I
love the hire because, hey, Aaron Glenn understands I need
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somebody that comes in that can put a system in
that I like, I'm going to be the head coach.
I'm not going to call defensive plays. I need to
create a culture. Everything Aaron Glenn has said has been.
Speaker 4 (05:58):
Awesome so far.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
But I saw a lot today.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
It's pretty interesting because I watched I watched a couple
of panel shows on ESPN and Fox when when they
when they hit on this and they said, all this
means Aaron Rodgers is gone, and uh, and I'm like,
what do you say, Well, the system that the Lions
run that Ankstrom likes to run is not quite what
Aaron Rodgers does. Right, he lines up behind center, That's
not quite what they do. This means he's out the door. Okay,
(06:23):
let's stop for one second. So so because they line
up on this means he's gone. Right because Aaron Rodgers
not lining up under center, Okay, I understand the school
of thought that people are gonna say, Oh, the Jets
need a fresh start, right, Aaron Glenn is starting fresh.
Speaker 4 (06:39):
Hey, Aaron Glenn and and mooji.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
They can get their fresh start, but they get too
fresh starts. If they have Aaron Rodgers this year and
he stinks, they'll.
Speaker 4 (06:50):
Get a mulligan for this year.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
If Aaron Rodgers plays and he's no good, because then
it's gonna be okay, Well, they signed other players last year.
If they've had a whole year of the culture of
Aaron Glenn, now they'll have their quarterback. And maybe it's
somebody they draft this year that sits for a year
and plays next year. But it's a free year. People
wound to stand, Oh, yeah, I want my guys. I
want my guys. Aaron Rodgers does not nearly have the
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cachet he did with Green Bay. He is a guy
that has to walk around now and say I'd love
to play with the Jets. Been the best two years
of my career. I'll mentor somebody else like he is
desperate to stay with the Jets because he knows it's
the Jets or he's not.
Speaker 4 (07:25):
Playing in the NFL.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
So it's not like, hey, Aaron Glenn's got to put
his culture in an Aaron Rodgers is gonna fight it
if he doesn't like it, like what he did.
Speaker 4 (07:31):
In Green Bay. This is a diminished.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
Power Aaron Rodgers. Right, So understand that they have bigger
problems than Rogers. They're gonna draft a quarterback of the future,
absolutely hundred percent. But the big thing I want to
tell you, this is why I keep telling you Rogers
is gonna be the quarterback week one, is that who
is coming in if if Aaron Rodgers is not the fit? Right,
Let's okay, you Aaron Rodgers is not the fit, okay?
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And then I have other quarterbacks that are gonna take
the snap under center and do do all kinds of
different things that Rogers can't supposedly do with this system.
Who's that guy? The Jets aren't gonna give away games.
And the thing is, the reason Rochers is gonna stay
is because there is nobody out there to go get.
The best guy that could be out there is Sam Darnold,
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and that's not happening because Jets previously nobody out there.
It is bereaft of talent. They would have to make
a big trade to bring somebody in. And if he's
making a trade to bring somebody in, it's your quarterback
of the future. It's not well, we're gonna make a
trade to bring in a bridge guy for a year.
That's not gonna happen. Tell me who that guy is,
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right to The Jets aren't drafting at the top of
the draft. They're not getting Schador Sanders, are not getting
cam Ward.
Speaker 4 (08:42):
Yeah. And the second or third round.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
Are they gonna get Quinn Ewers or Kyle McCord or
someone like that, or Jalen mil Rose, Yeah, Jackson Dart, Yeah,
one hundred percent. I can see that. But that's not
a guy coming in to start. That's a guy that's
gonna come in potentially and be the quarterback in the year.
And oh, by the way, don't forget they have Jordan
Travis who missed all this year recovering from his injury.
Speaker 4 (09:00):
You get Florida State.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
So if you want to say that all the system
might not fit, come on, just stop with that. Really,
Aaron Rodgers can't can't They can't figure out a happy
medium here. No, I only know one way to do it,
and and and Rogers goes one way to do things,
and answer only knows one way to do things. Really,
they can't figure something. Really, really, they're not gonna talk.
They're not gonna figure the right way to do things,
not gonna be anything from the shot. I mean, come on,
that's a ridiculous thing to say. But in the end,
(09:23):
I'm I'm hey, I get they want to move on
from Rogers, and they want to move on, especially if
he stinks. But they also want to win football games
because the the the time is short in New York
to win and show that you can do what they
what they want you to do. And in the end,
in the end, stop, In the end, you have either
we're gonna go get a less than thrilling Bridge quarterback
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that's got to come in to a new system, learn
what it's like to play in New York and be
the quarterback in New York, know the players, get to
know them all and try to win games this year.
Speaker 3 (09:58):
Okay, that's a tall tesk for anybody.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
It's a really tall test, especially when you're going on
somebody who's not any good, because those are all the
free agents are not any good. Whereas Rogers, yes, he
has his warts, but he knows New York. He knows
the system, he knows the players, he knows how things work.
You are hitting the ground a little bit more running
with Rogers than you are without him. And if there's
a great alternative out there, Mike, like I say, tell
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me who that is, and I'll agree with you and say, right,
push Aaron Rodgers out and go get that. But who
is that person? There's nobody out there. There's not a
person out there that they can realistically bring in to
be their quarterback this year. That's why he's gonna stay.
Speaker 6 (10:37):
See this is where I go back, and I'm predatory
if I'm the Tennessee Titans, because I listened to the
take just now, and I pit the jets of the
Giants against each other. Come and get him. You want
shdor Sanders, come on, let's get nuts. So look, with
the Jets, there's no guarantee they get out of their
own way. Woody Johnson still had in charge of everything,
(11:00):
so we stipulate to that, as we have for the
length and duration of this show's history here at Fox
Sports Radio.
Speaker 7 (11:10):
That bad ownership.
Speaker 6 (11:11):
Unless they get out of the way and are suddenly
shown the light, it ain't gonna change. All right, there's
hope in Chicago. But what did you just learn, ty shirt?
Hope is a dangerous thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah, could be
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the best of things unless it's not. But for your Jets, yeah,
you get a Mulligan year because you're trying to evaluate.
You know, the Giants are kind of in that same boat.
You might get their guy, but you've got a GM
and a coach that you're just looking around going I
don't know. But for the Jets, it's it's it's a
(11:54):
new world and you gotta lend some credence to the
Garrett Wilson's stuff and what that does and changes the
complexion of what you're doing. Brease Hall is staying healthy,
rebuilding your offensive. There's a lot of work to be
done there, but certainly at the quarterback position, very very
thin level of people you can go get because most
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are either being franchised tag or re signed by their teams,
and the free agency market is going to be replete
with old, broken down versions of guys who aren't really
any better than the forty year old you have there now.
Speaker 7 (12:32):
So the devil you know versus the devil you don't.
That's one to go on.
Speaker 4 (12:36):
Oh look at you teaching lessons like that. Oh man.
Now for those of you if you miss why you
have to listen to the whole show.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
Alex Heyshirt is watching Shawshank Redemption for the very first
time tonight, and we've been getting updates from him every
twenty five minutes of the movie, and I got a
feeling he just got to a part where maybe somebody
is no longer at Shaw.
Speaker 4 (13:00):
Did you get to that part.
Speaker 8 (13:01):
At I do? And can I set this up?
Speaker 7 (13:04):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (13:04):
Go ahead.
Speaker 9 (13:06):
So Andy, who was as I may say, on a
mistrial and misjudged and sent to prison for something he
didn't do by the way, prediction called by me the warden,
who also had what's coming to him, as they like
to say, what goes around comes around Jason.
Speaker 8 (13:23):
And the best part is when I.
Speaker 10 (13:25):
Say Andy is it's Rey babe?
Speaker 8 (13:38):
Is Jason last hour movie in the last thirty years.
Speaker 3 (13:41):
You were so desponded an hour ago. I hate the warden,
I hate everything going on.
Speaker 4 (13:46):
I hate all of this.
Speaker 8 (13:47):
Oh I feel good right now.
Speaker 4 (13:48):
Now you do it backflips.
Speaker 8 (13:49):
I'm a runner in this circle right now, and you.
Speaker 3 (13:51):
Still have a half hour till the end of the movie.
Now you're gonna see how the.
Speaker 8 (13:54):
Rest of eighteen minutes. I've been watching a little bit.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
Yeah, but I see now you're excited. Now you're one
of the best movie in the last thirty years.
Speaker 4 (14:01):
Now you agree with.
Speaker 8 (14:02):
Me, Jason, what's in the wall by the tree? I
gotta know a.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
We will have that reveal coming up soon on the
show Jason's with the Mike Carman Live from the tirerac
dot Com studios again. Get used to Aaron Rodgers just
quarterback week one this year, it's happened? Coming up next?
Are we going to see big change to the NBA
All Star Game? Who could be going? As the trade
deadline gets closer and closer, NBA insider Mark Stein stops
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Last game of the night in the NBA, it is
all Phoenix.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
The Suns are thumping the Warriors one twenty four to
ninety eight. Not been a great night for Steph Curry.
Took him a while to even crack the ten point
Barry He's got fourteen. Meanwhile for the Suns, Devin Booker
on the day he said, hey, we should have all
star rosters move out to fifteen, backing it up with
a thirty one point night to go along with eleven
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assists and five rebounds. See I'm an All Star. Well
joining us now the hot Line for more on the
All Star controversies with the rosters. What's next to trade Deadline?
NBA Insider Extraordinary longtime front of the show, Mark Stein, Mark,
what's happening?
Speaker 4 (16:39):
But happy New Year?
Speaker 5 (16:40):
How are you ken? Some good? How's it going out there?
Speaker 1 (16:44):
We're doing good man? Everything. Look that the Knicks are good.
Harmon's bulls are still bad. So about the same as
the last time we.
Speaker 5 (16:51):
Spoke, you're happy with a nick You're okay?
Speaker 4 (16:56):
Yeah? Why would I not be happy?
Speaker 5 (16:58):
You're never happy?
Speaker 1 (17:00):
Yeah, But look, Adam Silver is gonna make the games
five minutes long. The Knicks can play all of their
starters and not have to worry about a bench.
Speaker 3 (17:07):
It's gonna be great.
Speaker 5 (17:09):
I wouldn't hold your breath for that one. I don't
think that'll be instituted as swiftly as it does. It
seemed this week.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
What'd you think of that when when you heard Silver
throw ideas like that out there, Hey, let's shorten the
game to forty minutes.
Speaker 5 (17:23):
I wouldn't say that I'm bothered by it because I
think it's you know that he would actually do interviews
and you know, throw out ideas. I don't think there's
any harm in it. But you know, that's a major, major,
major change that wouldn't happen without tons and tons of discussion.
Just like when you know that, you know, let's move
the three point line. Like these are huge, huge changes
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to the sports. Like you know, I know Baseball brought
in the pitchclock, but like that's that's putting a time
element on on pitching. It's not seeing it's not like
moving the mound. So it's like it's just these are.
Speaker 11 (18:00):
Massive, massive changes that are being just suggested, and they're
not going to be just I can't imagine the NBA really.
Speaker 5 (18:11):
First of all, there would be a lot of opposition
I think to shortening the games to forty minutes. And
look his point about the watchability of it and trying to,
you know, aim for a two hour window. That's I think,
I think he's right that there probably is a huge
segment of the TV audience that would like games that
(18:31):
are shorter. And I think, you know, we're all from
a generation that you know, the younger generation does like
to watch things on their phone and maybe doesn't want
to watch a game that goes two and a half
or more hours. But it would change NBA games so
significantly because teams would be able to shorten their rotations.
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I mean, it would help the Knicks because so heavily
on the guys like there would be I think there
would be a lot of opposition to it, and again,
major changes like that, I mean, that is one of
the things that the G League is there for, for
the league to try things out. You're not just going
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to go to ten minute quarters or move the three
point line without a lot of conversation and a lot
of testing.
Speaker 6 (19:23):
I do like the idea that people would be then
complaining that the commissioner's offense was in the bag for
the Knicks, which is which is kind of fun theoretical
stuff that mark. But back to the All Star Game
and the festivities to come. We talk about roster snubs
each and every year, and then we try to play
the game of who really has to come off if
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we're to do that. Anybody really that you felt strongly
has should have beef with the process this year, Well, look.
Speaker 5 (19:54):
I mean I can certainly point to players who I
think should have been on there talk when we talked.
I mean Trey Young, you know, feels like he's repeatedly snubbed,
and I'm sure you guys saw his tweet where it's
not I'm not being snubbed anymore, I'm being trade. But
like you want to talk about snub Zach Levine doesn't
even get talked about as a snub. That's how far
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he's been snubbed. And I think Zach Levine is a
player who in the East has All Star credentials and
in the West I mean, Kyrie Irving like to not
make the All Star team the MAVs, but the only
team with twenty five wins at the time of the
vote that didn't have any All Stars. So look, you
can certainly point to players who were snubbed, But you know,
(20:38):
I heard you guys with the intro talking about Devin
Booker and wanting the rosters to expand. I mean, now
there really is a case for that, because you know,
I in the you know, I'm a child of the
seventies and the eighties, and I mean the All Star
Game in the eighties was such a big deal and
just such a huge part of my life. But you know,
the league was only twenty three teams then and we
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had twelve man All Star rosters. It's a thirty teen league.
Now you have one hundred players a year coming from overseas,
and you know, it's still a twelve man All Star roster.
And like you could when I went through it. I
don't officially vote. I don't participate in the official media vote,
but you know, just for kicks, I'm you know, I
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go through the exercise of trying to pick my seven
reserves in each conference, and my list of snubs or
you know, guys that I wanted to apologize to. I
mean I went eight deep in both conferences. I mean
there are there, there are a lot of worthy guys
for the Ulstar Game. And certainly, you know, an injury
or two will probably pop up in the league, will
be able to make an injury replacement or two. But
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I mean there are If we're going to have twelve
man rosters, there are always going to be four or
five guys who really have a lot to complain about.
Speaker 7 (21:56):
You know.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
And that's what I don't get Mark, is that, Okay,
the NBA is gone on to fifteen man rosters. Now
it's an exhibition. They change stuff every year. Now it's
good what four teams with with They're going to play
a bunch of different small games. Like every year they
stunt cast the All Star Game. Why has it not
been enough support for it? Like I saw Steve Kurtday say, yeah,
I don't know that I wanted to. I would go
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to that, Like why we get more popular player LaMelo
Ball could be at the Ulstar which everybody wants to see.
More people voted for him in the backbourt than anybody
in the Eastern Conference. Like you can get star players
more star players to the All Star Game. I don't
get how this is not just a FATA complete that Hey,
we want it, it makes sense for everybody will do it.
Speaker 5 (22:36):
You're right, I really haven't heard tons and tons of
lobbying for it, like you hear the occasional comment that
you know, Devin Booker just made, and you'll occasionally get
an old ink stained wretch like me who writes a
column saying it's time to expand the rosters. But yeah,
I mean it is not high on the list of
things that people complain about the modern NBA. But yeah,
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with thirty teams and you know, such a deep player pool,
you would think that they would look at it, especially
because you know, look this new format. I'm going to
try to approach it with an open mind. But look,
my general thing on the All Star Game at this point,
you know, everybody wants to be an All Star, everybody
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wants to make the team. Everyone who is snub really
feels upset about it. But nobody wants to play in
the All Star Game. All Star weekend is a convention. Now,
it is a convention for the league. You want to
be invited there, But It's like nobody wants to play
in the game. So they're going to try to do
this new format with you know, four teams of eight players.
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But at this point, you know, the team that wins
the the you know, the Friday night game that features
rookies and second year players, those guys, eight of those
players will end up in the Sunday All Star Game
because you know, there aren't there are only twenty four
you know a NBA All starts. So I mean, not
even if this format sticks around and they stick with
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this four teams of eight thing on Sunday, if this
thing actually works, that might even create more of a
case to expand the All Star rosters from twelve to
whatever number. Now you're messing with history to some degree
if there are if there are thirty All Stars every
year instead of twenty four, I think that's what they're
trying to avoid. But yeah, I mean, the league is
(24:26):
just so much larger than it was that it is
something that you would think they would look.
Speaker 7 (24:30):
At evolution a real thing, all right.
Speaker 6 (24:33):
Trent deadline is February sixth, and all the usual suspects
being rumored out there. Does Jimmy Butler finally get away
from pat Riley or are they destined to hang out
together forever?
Speaker 5 (24:45):
No, I think so. Now, Like you know, early on
in the saga, there was the chatter that, you know,
the Heat has incentive to wait till the offseason. They'll
get a better deal that you know, there was even
a thought that the Heat early on, there was a
that the Heat could even go the Clipper route. How
the Clippers just let Paul George go because the Clippers thought,
(25:06):
we'll take the financial flexibility we get from letting Paul
walk In. A couple of years down the road, Miami
was in a similar position. But this thing has gotten
so untenable, so tense. I mean, you just cannot imagine
a world where Jimmy Butler is still on the Heat
roster after next Thursday at three pm Eastern, because there's
(25:29):
a whole season for Miami to finish. And you know,
the NBA with the player participation policy, now, you know,
in the past, we would see if there was a
team and a disgruntled player, they might mutually agree that
the player will wait at home until we can find
a trade for you. That's not allowed anymore. Miami can't
just send Jimmy home the league's not going to be
(25:50):
okay with that because based on the player participation policy,
he's a recent All Star, recent All NBA selection. They
can't just send him home. So the Heat really want
a trade to happen between now and Thursday, and I
think they have lowered their asking price because they just
want to move on. They've suspended Butler for the third
(26:12):
time this month. The suspension will at least be five games,
which takes them through the deadline. So yes, I do
think one way or the other, Miami's going to find
something that they're willing to take between now and Thursday
because it just and remember, the Heat has to make
the playoffs this season. They if they don't make the playoffs,
(26:34):
they will keep their pick this in the twenty twenty
five draft, but in twenty twenty six and twenty twenty
eight they have to give up their first unprotected twenty
twenty six to OKCEE, twenty twenty eight to Charlotte. So
there is such a ripple effect. If the Heat don't
make the playoffs this year, They've got to make the playoffs,
(26:56):
and that's why they want to make this trade, get
back some play who can help them in the short
term without messing up their long term financial outlook, and
try to get in the playoffs so they don't lose
those two picks on top of everything that they've put
up with this season.
Speaker 1 (27:12):
Nby insider Mark Steyde with us great stuff on the Heat.
Speaker 4 (27:15):
All right, So now as.
Speaker 1 (27:16):
We go forward, do you see other big names getting
dealt the deadline or might this be hey, more of
a you know, hey, we see lots of trades, but
we don't see big names move.
Speaker 7 (27:26):
Well.
Speaker 5 (27:27):
I would say that we've already seen five trades, so
it has been pretty busy, and with the Aaron Fox,
with the Kings taking calls on the Aaron Fox, and
already talking with san Antonio about a potential deal with
his Butler move. Earlier this week, I reported that, you know,
things have been quiet on the brandon Ingram front for
(27:48):
a long time, but Toronto has expressed brandon Ingram. This morning,
Jake Fisher and I did a combo story about New
Orleans has reached out to Miami and at least grown
out the idea of a brandon Ingram for Jimmy Butler deal.
So there is a lot percolating, you know, always we're
not going to know until we know. But I would
(28:10):
say when we've already seen five trades and when we're
talking about the likes of Butler, Baron Fox, brandon Ingram
all being in play, I mean, that's pretty active for
in season. When you have to remember in the NBA,
it's always easier to make these trades in the off
season because you don't have the roster limits. You just
(28:31):
have more teams have more flexibility, Teams have an extra
draft pick that they you know, an extra future pick
that they can offer in trades. It's just always easier
to do the major moves in the off season. So
I would say for an in season deadline early February,
there's a lot going on. Believe, I've been on the
phone all day and I think it'll be that way
(28:52):
for the next five six days.
Speaker 1 (28:54):
He's on Twitter at the Steinline, that is, at the Steinline.
Check them out on Substack, get link on Twitter to
the NBA trade season latest on Jimmy Butler, brandon Ingram
As he talked about he and Jake Fisher have it
right there again at the Steinline on Twitter. Marcus always buddy,
appreciate it. We'll talk to you next week and we
get really close to trades.
Speaker 5 (29:14):
All right, guy, sound good, talk to you.
Speaker 7 (29:15):
So thank you have a good week.
Speaker 1 (29:17):
Look, hey, that's that's that's one of the best takes
that I have heard on the Jimmy Butler thing about
how badly they have to make the playoffs this year
because of the draft implications. The next couple like this
shows you that, oh, okay, wait a minute, now there's
a lot more at stake and they really have to
get something for him because you don't want to go
into that. You don't want to go into the situation.
(29:38):
And Mark just laid out there as oh my goodness,
that's you're talking about the future. That heat is just
gonna say, maybe we're into twenty thirty the next time
we're any good twenty thirty. I mean, Tyler Hero is
not gonna score seventy five points a game by himself.
Speaker 7 (29:49):
Hey, all star, Sorry, Tyler all Star.
Speaker 1 (29:52):
Tyler Hero in that bucket hat is not going to
score seventy five points a game all by himself.
Speaker 7 (29:57):
A man one's confused for.
Speaker 6 (29:58):
Timothy Shallow may look, you look at a situation, right,
and that the long term ramifications of moves that you
make and deals that you sign.
Speaker 7 (30:08):
How often do we start talking about the Lakers, like,
what do they have?
Speaker 6 (30:11):
They got that thing out in twenty nine, right, they
like that one out in twenty nine.
Speaker 7 (30:16):
Right. Actually, we're gonna be on this.
Speaker 6 (30:19):
Show saying, hey, it's actually twenty twenty nine.
Speaker 7 (30:22):
It's a time to activate. Let's go.
Speaker 1 (30:24):
But isn't But isn't it twenty twenty nine when they
trade away their last pick that they gave up for
Steve Nash?
Speaker 4 (30:29):
Isn't that twenty twenty?
Speaker 7 (30:31):
That's it?
Speaker 4 (30:31):
Okay, good, all right, very good.
Speaker 7 (30:33):
Final final countdown.
Speaker 1 (30:34):
Time now to find out what's trending in the wide
world of sports. From a guy who's been called the
Timothy Shallome of Fox Sports Radio because he once played
Bob Dylan in a biopic in high school, it's Steve.
Speaker 8 (30:45):
To say, you mean he's not dating a Kardashian. I
thought it was because I like chocolate bars.
Speaker 4 (30:49):
Okay, there's that too, that's sure.
Speaker 1 (30:53):
I've seen you walk up and down the hall thing
and the herd reins are gonna fall a time.
Speaker 7 (30:57):
I've seen that from you.
Speaker 12 (30:58):
Yes, yeah, actually you see me walking up and down
the hall and couldn't understand what I was mumbling. Yes,
in the next still in film absolutely the late game
at Golden State went to Phoenix easily one thirty to
one oh five. Devin Booker thirty one points, eleven assests,
just two turnovers, Steph Curry from three point range one
of six, Andrew Wiggins one of five from long distance
(31:21):
in defeat. Boston won as Jason Tatum, who had twenty
seven points, hit the game winning jumper in the final second.
At New Orleans won eighteen one sixteen twenty eight points
for Jalen Brown. Bad news for the Pelicans not that
they've lost five straight or that Zion Williamson did not
play tonight due to illness. Des Johntay Murray left the
game with a leg injury non contact possible torn Achilles.
(31:43):
San Antonio beat Milwaukee won forty four to one to
eighteen victor Wembenyama thirty points, fourteen rebounds, six blocks, Denver
shot sixty six percent from the floor, and a win
at Philadelphia one thirty seven to one thirty four that
ends Phillies four game winning streak. Tyrese Maxi with.
Speaker 13 (32:00):
Forty two points in defeat Chicago ended Toronto's five game
winning streak one twenty two to one oh six at
Detroit forty points for Cad Cunningham and a win over
Dallas one seventeen to one oh two. Isaiah Stewart of
the Pistons was suspended for this game due to flagrant fouls,
and the Clippers won. At Charlotte won twelve one oh four.
Kawhi Leonard twenty one points in twenty eight minutes. Julius
(32:22):
Randall of Minnesota out tomorrow with a groin injury. Washington
first rounder Alex Sar will miss a third straight game
with a sprained ankle. The Wizards have lost sixteen in
a row. Great college basketball game on Fox TV tonight, Purdue,
ranked tenth, trailed Indiana with about ten seconds left, but
beat the Hoosiers eighty one seventy six. Indiana committed twenty turnovers.
(32:43):
Georgetown defeated Butler. Yale won at Princeton. The four NHL
games all finals now. Columbus won in overtime at Utah,
Colorado shout out Saint Louis five nothing wins for Buffalo
and Dallas each at home. Eagles wide receiver DeVante Smith
did not practice again do to his bad hamstring, but
he has no injury designation for the Super Bowl Game,
(33:04):
which isn't until a week from Sunday. The Eagles will
practice in Philadelphia again on Saturday and then head to
New Orleans and at Pebble Beach. Sepstraca leads by three
strokes after a second round sixty five.
Speaker 4 (33:15):
Back to you, Thank you, Steve.
Speaker 1 (33:17):
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Speaker 1 (33:22):
Coming up next, We're gonna get into a story that
I can't believe.
Speaker 4 (33:27):
We don't know more about what is it?
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Speaker 1 (33:58):
Be there, Fox Sports Radio, The Jason Smith Show with
my best friend Mike Harmon.
Speaker 4 (34:05):
I've just been told.
Speaker 1 (34:06):
Alex Tyshert has finished the Shawshank redemption for the WHOA,
So we will get the We will get the final
thoughts from Alex Tychert coming up on that in about
ten minutes. I want to give you ten minutes to
gather your thoughts before. Really this is it's like everybody's
gonna see the movie for the first time before we
get your thoughts on Shawshank Redemption.
Speaker 4 (34:27):
Jayson, I know, I know, I don't.
Speaker 7 (34:31):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (34:31):
If you get your thoughts together.
Speaker 8 (34:33):
I might need a little more than ten minutes, if
you don't mind.
Speaker 1 (34:35):
Okay, all right, maybe thirteen minutes. How does that sound.
I'll give you a thirteen minutes.
Speaker 6 (34:39):
Here we go, just change de Man's life on a
Friday night, final night of this the month of January
twenty twenty five.
Speaker 1 (34:48):
Now here we are on a Friday night, right, And
this is something I was thinking about this the last
couple of days. I've been thinking about it a lot
ever since I did the fake phone call to the
Odd Couple on Wednesday for their Last Call segment where
I did a fake phone call pretended to be Vinnie
from New York, where I said Rob Parker is the
guy who didn't vote for Eachiro.
Speaker 4 (35:08):
Uh, we are now a little bit.
Speaker 3 (35:11):
It was really funny.
Speaker 4 (35:12):
He didn't.
Speaker 1 (35:12):
He didn't know what you know, They did this thing
called last Call, the final segment of their show, where
it's the last time for callers to call in, and
they do that.
Speaker 4 (35:19):
So I called in, pretending to be Vinnie.
Speaker 1 (35:21):
From New York and they went to me and I said, hey,
don't I want you to know I met Rob palk
at the other day. He told me he's a guy
that didn't vote for Eachiro And I'm looking in through
the glass and he's looking at the microphone like.
Speaker 4 (35:32):
What the hell is going on?
Speaker 3 (35:37):
It was really fun.
Speaker 4 (35:38):
Calvin realized it was me.
Speaker 1 (35:40):
But Rob, it took him a second and yeah, I
met you at a Poyo local when he went for
your free refill for that soda.
Speaker 4 (35:46):
You hadn't gotten that you went.
Speaker 1 (35:47):
You went to Pyo Loco two days ago, but you
still had the cup to get that free refill.
Speaker 4 (35:51):
You told me he didn't vote for Eachiro. Then he
realized it was me.
Speaker 1 (35:55):
Uh, but we are We are over a week later
on this story and still we don't know who it
is that didn't vote for each Ro Suzuki for the
Hall of Fame?
Speaker 7 (36:06):
Was that, guys?
Speaker 3 (36:08):
It's no, it's not no.
Speaker 4 (36:10):
It's not that dude.
Speaker 1 (36:11):
That was a f that's was a fake guy for
some kind of fake First, we.
Speaker 4 (36:18):
Were in the NLCS last year.
Speaker 1 (36:19):
Okay, you should you bare you Cheatednzo.
Speaker 4 (36:25):
You cheated, you cheat that. I can't prove it. I
know you cheated something.
Speaker 12 (36:29):
You should go drink and ice called Coca cola from
a glass like a polar bear.
Speaker 7 (36:34):
Bear.
Speaker 1 (36:35):
Five years ago, Derek Jeter didn't get unanimously elected, which
was ridiculous, right, I mean the championships, what he's done
in his career. I mean, he was a stat aggregator
and we and we never went it was a little
better than that, but we never found out who it was.
It didn't vote for him? Also, was it three people
didn't vote for Ken Griffy Jr. Right when he got elected.
(36:56):
You know, ten years ago I would I would have
thought by now, but because of the the way that
we move in the media at warp speed every year.
You know, look where we are right now at the
media with everything happening, not just.
Speaker 4 (37:10):
Sports, but outside of sports.
Speaker 1 (37:11):
I thought, Okay, we're gonna find out this guy. In
a couple of days, someone's gonna leak it. We're gonna
find out who this was that didn't that didn't vote
for Echiro. And here we are just about a week later,
and we still don't know, and we still don't know
who's gonna vote. And remember, we still don't know who
didn't vote for Jeter all those years ago. And it
wasn't a blank ballot because the Hall of Fame Baseball
(37:33):
Right associate said all the ballots were returned. We were
or sorry there were no blank ballots returned. Sorry there
were no because that's when you that's when the only
time you get it where someone doesn't vote if they
return a blank ballot. I don't understand how we don't
know who this is, and more so I can't believe
this person doesn't have the guts to stand up and say, yeah,
I didn't vote for Eachiro because right, like, but you know,
(37:57):
you are entrusted to vote for the Hall of Fame, right,
so normally you have your opinions on stuff, and you
don't need to be beholden to me. You vote for
who you want to vote for, and you may you know,
you cover the game for a long time. I understand that.
But in no world is each your Suzuki not a
first ballot Hall of Famer. So that's something where yeah,
I'm sorry, No, you kind of owe an explanation on that, right,
(38:17):
you kind of owe us an explanation.
Speaker 4 (38:19):
It's like if your kid stays.
Speaker 1 (38:21):
Out late one night, but they come back in and
then and then and the next Hey, how did it go? Oh,
here's what happened. They tell you, Okay, that's great, and
then but a couple of weeks later, they commit at
four o'clock in the morning and the cars got a
dent in it and their clothes are ripped, and you're like,
what happened?
Speaker 4 (38:36):
I want to talk about it?
Speaker 1 (38:37):
No, no, no, you owe me you you tell me
what went on because you gotta tell me what happened here?
Speaker 4 (38:42):
What? What what happened tonight? What went on? Like?
Speaker 1 (38:44):
This is where okay, there's certain times. No, you don't
owe me an explanation. You want to vote for Andrew
Jones or not? All right, I get it. I could disagree,
but I get it. But not voting for each your vote? No, no, no,
you you owe everybody an answer with that and how
you could not vote for him because this is your jobs.
Who vote for the Hall of Fame? And in what
world is he not a Hall of Famer. So that's
(39:05):
what I'm really more upset about is that whoever didn't
do this didn't own it and say, yeah, this is
why I didn't vote for the guy, Like, that's kind
of what I want to hear. And the fact that
we haven't heard tell me this person is scared. They're
scared to come forward. Oh I don't want to get criticized.
Speaker 4 (39:20):
Oh don't know.
Speaker 3 (39:20):
Well, this is that this part of the game.
Speaker 1 (39:22):
You vote on something, your opinion's out there.
Speaker 3 (39:24):
Hey, this this is this is part of the game.
Speaker 1 (39:26):
You didn't sit here and say, oh, I only want
the afford the protection because I want to people to
do what I want to do and not get called
out for it. Now, that's not how the media works.
That's not how this works. You didn't vote for each
ro you got to come out and say it.
Speaker 6 (39:38):
Well, I mean, they have the option of making their
public ballot or not. They should have that stripped away.
I'm not saying the individual I'm saying as as eight.
Speaker 1 (39:51):
Eighty two percent of the people make their ballots public,
like eight four and every five voters do that.
Speaker 7 (39:57):
Just like four out of five dentists. That's true.
Speaker 1 (39:59):
You still have outlier who doesn't brush it. If they
don't brush their teeth, they didn't vote for each roll.
That's your MONI Python logic.
Speaker 6 (40:06):
But there's the principle of it, right that you're still
looking at eighteen percent who, for whatever reason, whatever beliefs
they have on the process, have decided that that isn't
part of the job which you're upholding a public institution.
And this is where we get into the sanctity of
(40:27):
the hall versus the fact that it's a museum and
all the trinkets and artifacts and everything else that are
up in there, and trying to figure out where you
stand in that.
Speaker 7 (40:37):
And I think.
Speaker 6 (40:38):
There's a lot of sanctimonious chatter. I've been very upfront
about that through the years on this platform and throughout
you know, my public life as a radio guy is
that I think, you know, folks hold themselves a little
too seriously here. But in the end, you're also still
writing for people or talking about it. In theory, you're
(41:01):
not just Hey, I'm sitting in a basement somewhere, I
make my vote and this goes off into the ether,
and let's see what chaos I write I write about.
Speaker 7 (41:10):
No, you in theory.
Speaker 6 (41:12):
Are trying to talk about the process and talk about
the game you supposedly love with people, So why wouldn't
you share who you voted for or in this case,
who you didn't. In other words, strip people in their votes.
There's too many of them.
Speaker 1 (41:28):
I'm really just gonna start telling people it's Rob Parker,
even if it's not true.
Speaker 3 (41:31):
No, it's good, Jenny did that's Rob Parker.
Speaker 4 (41:33):
It's not true, it's not true.
Speaker 1 (41:35):
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A quick update from the NBA.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
Kevin Durant's not going to get to thirty thousand points tonight.
Still needs a little bit over seventy five. He's got nineteen,
but the Sons are thumping the Warriors one O two
eighty seven.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
Steph Curry just hit double digits.
Speaker 4 (01:09):
For this game.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
He has ten points on four out of eleven shooting.
The Sons are running away with us and I'm telling you,
the more time that goes on, you're starting to see
a little bit of the Steph Curry. Is he still
as good as he was staying in the in the
Golden State Warriors. If he wants to win, he's gotta
go someplace else. He's this has to be something where
he approaches it with Golden State saying, I want to
(01:32):
try to win. We can find a way where I
leave very amicably and everybody's gonna still love me. But
it's gonna be tough.
Speaker 5 (01:39):
Man.
Speaker 4 (01:39):
Just if he decides I want to.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
Be a one spore, a one team superstar, it's gonna
be really rough the next few years watching him just
score points in obscurity, where basically every year is maybe
they make the plan, because that's what the word, Maybe
they make the plane. We're gonna watch Steph Curry go
from wowo the dynasty they had with Golden State, and
(02:02):
they could never figure it out around him after that,
and he had like ten empty years, you know, the
last few years of his career all the way till then.
He was still really good into his late thirties. He
could still score twenty five or thirty in a game.
That's gonna be really tough just watching him just fade
away because the Warriors just look, they just don't they
don't move the needle like they used to. It's still
(02:25):
the image of the Warriors, and you think of the Warriors,
you think about winning the titles, you think about the
Splash brothers and Draymond, but now it's like, yeah, the
Warriors are no good and oh does Steph having a
big night? And that's it, and that's where the Warriors
are at. That's gonna continue to be. That's gonna be.
Speaker 4 (02:40):
A rough watch.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
As rough as it was to watch Damian Lillard, you know,
score forty and fifty in a game for Portland when
they had no chance to do anything, it's gonna be
rougher for the Warriors if Steph stays here the rest
of his career.
Speaker 6 (02:50):
Well, you didn't pay attention to Dame Lillard doing anything
out there. So yeah, it was us on the radio
because it was on during our window. The rest of
the universe was asleep, especially NBA wise, guys on the
East Coast didn't give a damn whether Portland was playing
well or not. He and CJ McCollum lighting it up
late on True TV. No nobody cared as Steph. I
(03:15):
mean he got his extra title right, proved himself after
the the end of things with Durant and all. But yeah,
he's got to decide how long do you want to
ride this out? Because you're still a great player. They're
still going to come to see your show, just it's
it's a little different. It's a little faded.
Speaker 7 (03:34):
You know.
Speaker 6 (03:34):
The the drapes and everything else are still like the seventies.
You know, like like say you went to the see
the prices right and they didn't update the studio at all,
Like at some point you got it. You can't just
live in the time machine. And for Steph, yeah, those
system quarterback things. We have a number of people asking
if you've reached out to KNBR to see if they
want to talk to you now.
Speaker 4 (03:56):
Yeah, eventually they will.
Speaker 7 (03:58):
They don't get mad anymore because they don't relevant.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
They'll want to eventually. It's we can't we can't admit.
Jason was right about this. We can't admit. And there's
people that I know that work up there that unfollowed
me on Twitter because they don't like my take on
Steph Kurk.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
That's okay, Like really. I mean it's insane.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
No, no, not that we got in a fight on
Twitter or anything else, because I'm not that guy. Not
that I said something bad about So. I said something,
you know, electric outside of sports, though.
Speaker 7 (04:27):
I don't like your takes on Steph Curry.
Speaker 4 (04:29):
So they unfollowed me on Twitter.
Speaker 8 (04:30):
Because have you since they did that?
Speaker 4 (04:32):
I can't, Man, it's very difficult, it's very fun.
Speaker 6 (04:35):
I mean, I know there's one unfollowed that it still
breaks your soul.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
I just I just lay in bed at night, just
think Wan Soto, Wan Soto, eighteen days to Wan Sodo,
seventeen days to Wan Soto, sixteen days to Wan Soda.
Speaker 4 (04:48):
Let's keep thinking of that. That's all I gotta do.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
Uh Now in the NFL, couple of big moves today,
right we we we talked a few minutes ago.
Speaker 4 (04:55):
Uh, We're gonna get into.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
Next hour again, what's going on with arch Manning Heisman
Trophy favorite Shador Sanders should be absolutely funneled to the Giants.
But now Aaron Rodgers' future has been questioned after the
news today because the Jets went and got a new
offensive coordinator. And again, if you told me five years ago, hey,
(05:18):
teams are going to be raiding the Lions for their coaches.
I would say, come on, man, no one's rating the
Lions for anybody.
Speaker 4 (05:24):
No, no, no, that is absolutely what is happening.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
So now the Lions lost Aaron Glenn to be the
head coach of the Jets, lost Ben Johnson to be
the head coach of the Chicago Bears. Other coaches has left,
and now Tanner Engstron is leaving to become the Jets
offensive coordinator. He was their passing game coordinator for the
past four years, been on Dan Campbell's staff. And I
love the hire because, hey, Aaron Glenn understands I need
(05:49):
somebody that comes in that can put a system in
that I like, I'm going to be the head coach.
I'm not going to call defensive plays. I need to
create a culture. Everything Aaron Glenn has said has been.
Speaker 4 (05:58):
Awesome so far.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
But I saw a lot today.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
It's pretty interesting because I watched I watched a couple
of panel shows on ESPN and Fox when when they
when they hit on this and they said, all this
means Aaron Rodgers is gone, and uh, and I'm like,
what do you say, Well, the system that the Lions
run that Ankstrom likes to run is not quite what
Aaron Rodgers does. Right, he lines up behind center, That's
not quite what they do. This means he's out the door. Okay,
(06:23):
let's stop for one second. So so because they line
up on this means he's gone. Right because Aaron Rodgers
not lining up under center, Okay, I understand the school
of thought that people are gonna say, Oh, the Jets
need a fresh start, right, Aaron Glenn is starting fresh.
Speaker 4 (06:39):
Hey, Aaron Glenn and and mooji.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
They can get their fresh start, but they get too
fresh starts. If they have Aaron Rodgers this year and
he stinks, they'll.
Speaker 4 (06:50):
Get a mulligan for this year.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
If Aaron Rodgers plays and he's no good, because then
it's gonna be okay, Well, they signed other players last year.
If they've had a whole year of the culture of
Aaron Glenn, now they'll have their quarterback. And maybe it's
somebody they draft this year that sits for a year
and plays next year. But it's a free year. People
wound to stand, Oh, yeah, I want my guys. I
want my guys. Aaron Rodgers does not nearly have the
(07:12):
cachet he did with Green Bay. He is a guy
that has to walk around now and say I'd love
to play with the Jets. Been the best two years
of my career. I'll mentor somebody else like he is
desperate to stay with the Jets because he knows it's
the Jets or he's not.
Speaker 4 (07:25):
Playing in the NFL.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
So it's not like, hey, Aaron Glenn's got to put
his culture in an Aaron Rodgers is gonna fight it
if he doesn't like it, like what he did.
Speaker 4 (07:31):
In Green Bay. This is a diminished.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
Power Aaron Rodgers. Right, So understand that they have bigger
problems than Rogers. They're gonna draft a quarterback of the future,
absolutely hundred percent. But the big thing I want to
tell you, this is why I keep telling you Rogers
is gonna be the quarterback week one, is that who
is coming in if if Aaron Rodgers is not the fit? Right,
Let's okay, you Aaron Rodgers is not the fit, okay?
(07:54):
And then I have other quarterbacks that are gonna take
the snap under center and do do all kinds of
different things that Rogers can't supposedly do with this system.
Who's that guy? The Jets aren't gonna give away games.
And the thing is, the reason Rochers is gonna stay
is because there is nobody out there to go get.
The best guy that could be out there is Sam Darnold,
(08:16):
and that's not happening because Jets previously nobody out there.
It is bereaft of talent. They would have to make
a big trade to bring somebody in. And if he's
making a trade to bring somebody in, it's your quarterback
of the future. It's not well, we're gonna make a
trade to bring in a bridge guy for a year.
That's not gonna happen. Tell me who that guy is,
(08:37):
right to The Jets aren't drafting at the top of
the draft. They're not getting Schador Sanders, are not getting
cam Ward.
Speaker 4 (08:42):
Yeah. And the second or third round.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
Are they gonna get Quinn Ewers or Kyle McCord or
someone like that, or Jalen mil Rose, Yeah, Jackson Dart, Yeah,
one hundred percent. I can see that. But that's not
a guy coming in to start. That's a guy that's
gonna come in potentially and be the quarterback in the year.
And oh, by the way, don't forget they have Jordan
Travis who missed all this year recovering from his injury.
Speaker 4 (09:00):
You get Florida State.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
So if you want to say that all the system
might not fit, come on, just stop with that. Really,
Aaron Rodgers can't can't They can't figure out a happy
medium here. No, I only know one way to do it,
and and and Rogers goes one way to do things,
and answer only knows one way to do things. Really,
they can't figure something. Really, really, they're not gonna talk.
They're not gonna figure the right way to do things,
not gonna be anything from the shot. I mean, come on,
that's a ridiculous thing to say. But in the end,
(09:23):
I'm I'm hey, I get they want to move on
from Rogers, and they want to move on, especially if
he stinks. But they also want to win football games
because the the the time is short in New York
to win and show that you can do what they
what they want you to do. And in the end,
in the end, stop, In the end, you have either
we're gonna go get a less than thrilling Bridge quarterback
(09:47):
that's got to come in to a new system, learn
what it's like to play in New York and be
the quarterback in New York, know the players, get to
know them all and try to win games this year.
Speaker 3 (09:58):
Okay, that's a tall tesk for anybody.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
It's a really tall test, especially when you're going on
somebody who's not any good, because those are all the
free agents are not any good. Whereas Rogers, yes, he
has his warts, but he knows New York. He knows
the system, he knows the players, he knows how things work.
You are hitting the ground a little bit more running
with Rogers than you are without him. And if there's
a great alternative out there, Mike, like I say, tell
(10:23):
me who that is, and I'll agree with you and say, right,
push Aaron Rodgers out and go get that. But who
is that person? There's nobody out there. There's not a
person out there that they can realistically bring in to
be their quarterback this year. That's why he's gonna stay.
Speaker 6 (10:37):
See this is where I go back, and I'm predatory
if I'm the Tennessee Titans, because I listened to the
take just now, and I pit the jets of the
Giants against each other. Come and get him. You want
shdor Sanders, come on, let's get nuts. So look, with
the Jets, there's no guarantee they get out of their
own way. Woody Johnson still had in charge of everything,
(11:00):
so we stipulate to that, as we have for the
length and duration of this show's history here at Fox
Sports Radio.
Speaker 7 (11:10):
That bad ownership.
Speaker 6 (11:11):
Unless they get out of the way and are suddenly
shown the light, it ain't gonna change. All right, there's
hope in Chicago. But what did you just learn, ty shirt?
Hope is a dangerous thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah, could be
(11:34):
the best of things unless it's not. But for your Jets, yeah,
you get a Mulligan year because you're trying to evaluate.
You know, the Giants are kind of in that same boat.
You might get their guy, but you've got a GM
and a coach that you're just looking around going I
don't know. But for the Jets, it's it's it's a
(11:54):
new world and you gotta lend some credence to the
Garrett Wilson's stuff and what that does and changes the
complexion of what you're doing. Brease Hall is staying healthy,
rebuilding your offensive. There's a lot of work to be
done there, but certainly at the quarterback position, very very
thin level of people you can go get because most
(12:16):
are either being franchised tag or re signed by their teams,
and the free agency market is going to be replete
with old, broken down versions of guys who aren't really
any better than the forty year old you have there now.
Speaker 7 (12:32):
So the devil you know versus the devil you don't.
That's one to go on.
Speaker 4 (12:36):
Oh look at you teaching lessons like that. Oh man.
Now for those of you if you miss why you
have to listen to the whole show.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
Alex Heyshirt is watching Shawshank Redemption for the very first
time tonight, and we've been getting updates from him every
twenty five minutes of the movie, and I got a
feeling he just got to a part where maybe somebody
is no longer at Shaw.
Speaker 4 (13:00):
Did you get to that part.
Speaker 8 (13:01):
At I do? And can I set this up?
Speaker 7 (13:04):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (13:04):
Go ahead.
Speaker 9 (13:06):
So Andy, who was as I may say, on a
mistrial and misjudged and sent to prison for something he
didn't do by the way, prediction called by me the warden,
who also had what's coming to him, as they like
to say, what goes around comes around Jason.
Speaker 8 (13:23):
And the best part is when I.
Speaker 10 (13:25):
Say Andy is it's Rey babe?
Speaker 8 (13:38):
Is Jason last hour movie in the last thirty years.
Speaker 3 (13:41):
You were so desponded an hour ago. I hate the warden,
I hate everything going on.
Speaker 4 (13:46):
I hate all of this.
Speaker 8 (13:47):
Oh I feel good right now.
Speaker 4 (13:48):
Now you do it backflips.
Speaker 8 (13:49):
I'm a runner in this circle right now, and you.
Speaker 3 (13:51):
Still have a half hour till the end of the movie.
Now you're gonna see how the.
Speaker 8 (13:54):
Rest of eighteen minutes. I've been watching a little bit.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
Yeah, but I see now you're excited. Now you're one
of the best movie in the last thirty years.
Speaker 4 (14:01):
Now you agree with.
Speaker 8 (14:02):
Me, Jason, what's in the wall by the tree? I
gotta know a.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
We will have that reveal coming up soon on the
show Jason's with the Mike Carman Live from the tirerac
dot Com studios again. Get used to Aaron Rodgers just
quarterback week one this year, it's happened? Coming up next?
Are we going to see big change to the NBA
All Star Game? Who could be going? As the trade
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Speaker 3 (16:00):
Last game of the night in the NBA, it is
all Phoenix.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
The Suns are thumping the Warriors one twenty four to
ninety eight. Not been a great night for Steph Curry.
Took him a while to even crack the ten point
Barry He's got fourteen. Meanwhile for the Suns, Devin Booker
on the day he said, hey, we should have all
star rosters move out to fifteen, backing it up with
a thirty one point night to go along with eleven
(16:25):
assists and five rebounds. See I'm an All Star. Well
joining us now the hot Line for more on the
All Star controversies with the rosters. What's next to trade Deadline?
NBA Insider Extraordinary longtime front of the show, Mark Stein, Mark,
what's happening?
Speaker 4 (16:39):
But happy New Year?
Speaker 5 (16:40):
How are you ken? Some good? How's it going out there?
Speaker 1 (16:44):
We're doing good man? Everything. Look that the Knicks are good.
Harmon's bulls are still bad. So about the same as
the last time we.
Speaker 5 (16:51):
Spoke, you're happy with a nick You're okay?
Speaker 4 (16:56):
Yeah? Why would I not be happy?
Speaker 5 (16:58):
You're never happy?
Speaker 1 (17:00):
Yeah, But look, Adam Silver is gonna make the games
five minutes long. The Knicks can play all of their
starters and not have to worry about a bench.
Speaker 3 (17:07):
It's gonna be great.
Speaker 5 (17:09):
I wouldn't hold your breath for that one. I don't
think that'll be instituted as swiftly as it does. It
seemed this week.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
What'd you think of that when when you heard Silver
throw ideas like that out there, Hey, let's shorten the
game to forty minutes.
Speaker 5 (17:23):
I wouldn't say that I'm bothered by it because I
think it's you know that he would actually do interviews
and you know, throw out ideas. I don't think there's
any harm in it. But you know, that's a major, major,
major change that wouldn't happen without tons and tons of discussion.
Just like when you know that, you know, let's move
the three point line. Like these are huge, huge changes
(17:46):
to the sports. Like you know, I know Baseball brought
in the pitchclock, but like that's that's putting a time
element on on pitching. It's not seeing it's not like
moving the mound. So it's like it's just these are.
Speaker 11 (18:00):
Massive, massive changes that are being just suggested, and they're
not going to be just I can't imagine the NBA really.
Speaker 5 (18:11):
First of all, there would be a lot of opposition
I think to shortening the games to forty minutes. And
look his point about the watchability of it and trying to,
you know, aim for a two hour window. That's I think,
I think he's right that there probably is a huge
segment of the TV audience that would like games that
(18:31):
are shorter. And I think, you know, we're all from
a generation that you know, the younger generation does like
to watch things on their phone and maybe doesn't want
to watch a game that goes two and a half
or more hours. But it would change NBA games so
significantly because teams would be able to shorten their rotations.
(18:54):
I mean, it would help the Knicks because so heavily
on the guys like there would be I think there
would be a lot of opposition to it, and again,
major changes like that, I mean, that is one of
the things that the G League is there for, for
the league to try things out. You're not just going
(19:15):
to go to ten minute quarters or move the three
point line without a lot of conversation and a lot
of testing.
Speaker 6 (19:23):
I do like the idea that people would be then
complaining that the commissioner's offense was in the bag for
the Knicks, which is which is kind of fun theoretical
stuff that mark. But back to the All Star Game
and the festivities to come. We talk about roster snubs
each and every year, and then we try to play
the game of who really has to come off if
(19:44):
we're to do that. Anybody really that you felt strongly
has should have beef with the process this year, Well, look.
Speaker 5 (19:54):
I mean I can certainly point to players who I
think should have been on there talk when we talked.
I mean Trey Young, you know, feels like he's repeatedly snubbed,
and I'm sure you guys saw his tweet where it's
not I'm not being snubbed anymore, I'm being trade. But
like you want to talk about snub Zach Levine doesn't
even get talked about as a snub. That's how far
(20:16):
he's been snubbed. And I think Zach Levine is a
player who in the East has All Star credentials and
in the West I mean, Kyrie Irving like to not
make the All Star team the MAVs, but the only
team with twenty five wins at the time of the
vote that didn't have any All Stars. So look, you
can certainly point to players who were snubbed, But you know,
(20:38):
I heard you guys with the intro talking about Devin
Booker and wanting the rosters to expand. I mean, now
there really is a case for that, because you know,
I in the you know, I'm a child of the
seventies and the eighties, and I mean the All Star
Game in the eighties was such a big deal and
just such a huge part of my life. But you know,
the league was only twenty three teams then and we
(21:00):
had twelve man All Star rosters. It's a thirty teen league.
Now you have one hundred players a year coming from overseas,
and you know, it's still a twelve man All Star roster.
And like you could when I went through it. I
don't officially vote. I don't participate in the official media vote,
but you know, just for kicks, I'm you know, I
(21:22):
go through the exercise of trying to pick my seven
reserves in each conference, and my list of snubs or
you know, guys that I wanted to apologize to. I
mean I went eight deep in both conferences. I mean
there are there, there are a lot of worthy guys
for the Ulstar Game. And certainly, you know, an injury
or two will probably pop up in the league, will
be able to make an injury replacement or two. But
(21:46):
I mean there are If we're going to have twelve
man rosters, there are always going to be four or
five guys who really have a lot to complain about.
Speaker 7 (21:56):
You know.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
And that's what I don't get Mark, is that, Okay,
the NBA is gone on to fifteen man rosters. Now
it's an exhibition. They change stuff every year. Now it's
good what four teams with with They're going to play
a bunch of different small games. Like every year they
stunt cast the All Star Game. Why has it not
been enough support for it? Like I saw Steve Kurtday say, yeah,
I don't know that I wanted to. I would go
(22:17):
to that, Like why we get more popular player LaMelo
Ball could be at the Ulstar which everybody wants to see.
More people voted for him in the backbourt than anybody
in the Eastern Conference. Like you can get star players
more star players to the All Star Game. I don't
get how this is not just a FATA complete that Hey,
we want it, it makes sense for everybody will do it.
Speaker 5 (22:36):
You're right, I really haven't heard tons and tons of
lobbying for it, like you hear the occasional comment that
you know, Devin Booker just made, and you'll occasionally get
an old ink stained wretch like me who writes a
column saying it's time to expand the rosters. But yeah,
I mean it is not high on the list of
things that people complain about the modern NBA. But yeah,
(23:00):
with thirty teams and you know, such a deep player pool,
you would think that they would look at it, especially
because you know, look this new format. I'm going to
try to approach it with an open mind. But look,
my general thing on the All Star Game at this point,
you know, everybody wants to be an All Star, everybody
(23:20):
wants to make the team. Everyone who is snub really
feels upset about it. But nobody wants to play in
the All Star Game. All Star weekend is a convention. Now,
it is a convention for the league. You want to
be invited there, But It's like nobody wants to play
in the game. So they're going to try to do
this new format with you know, four teams of eight players.
(23:41):
But at this point, you know, the team that wins
the the you know, the Friday night game that features
rookies and second year players, those guys, eight of those
players will end up in the Sunday All Star Game
because you know, there aren't there are only twenty four
you know a NBA All starts. So I mean, not
even if this format sticks around and they stick with
(24:04):
this four teams of eight thing on Sunday, if this
thing actually works, that might even create more of a
case to expand the All Star rosters from twelve to
whatever number. Now you're messing with history to some degree
if there are if there are thirty All Stars every
year instead of twenty four, I think that's what they're
trying to avoid. But yeah, I mean, the league is
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just so much larger than it was that it is
something that you would think they would look.
Speaker 7 (24:30):
At evolution a real thing, all right.
Speaker 6 (24:33):
Trent deadline is February sixth, and all the usual suspects
being rumored out there. Does Jimmy Butler finally get away
from pat Riley or are they destined to hang out
together forever?
Speaker 5 (24:45):
No, I think so. Now, Like you know, early on
in the saga, there was the chatter that, you know,
the Heat has incentive to wait till the offseason. They'll
get a better deal that you know, there was even
a thought that the Heat early on, there was a
that the Heat could even go the Clipper route. How
the Clippers just let Paul George go because the Clippers thought,
(25:06):
we'll take the financial flexibility we get from letting Paul
walk In. A couple of years down the road, Miami
was in a similar position. But this thing has gotten
so untenable, so tense. I mean, you just cannot imagine
a world where Jimmy Butler is still on the Heat
roster after next Thursday at three pm Eastern, because there's
(25:29):
a whole season for Miami to finish. And you know,
the NBA with the player participation policy, now, you know,
in the past, we would see if there was a
team and a disgruntled player, they might mutually agree that
the player will wait at home until we can find
a trade for you. That's not allowed anymore. Miami can't
just send Jimmy home the league's not going to be
(25:50):
okay with that because based on the player participation policy,
he's a recent All Star, recent All NBA selection. They
can't just send him home. So the Heat really want
a trade to happen between now and Thursday, and I
think they have lowered their asking price because they just
want to move on. They've suspended Butler for the third
(26:12):
time this month. The suspension will at least be five games,
which takes them through the deadline. So yes, I do
think one way or the other, Miami's going to find
something that they're willing to take between now and Thursday
because it just and remember, the Heat has to make
the playoffs this season. They if they don't make the playoffs,
(26:34):
they will keep their pick this in the twenty twenty
five draft, but in twenty twenty six and twenty twenty
eight they have to give up their first unprotected twenty
twenty six to OKCEE, twenty twenty eight to Charlotte. So
there is such a ripple effect. If the Heat don't
make the playoffs this year, They've got to make the playoffs,
(26:56):
and that's why they want to make this trade, get
back some play who can help them in the short
term without messing up their long term financial outlook, and
try to get in the playoffs so they don't lose
those two picks on top of everything that they've put
up with this season.
Speaker 1 (27:12):
Nby insider Mark Steyde with us great stuff on the Heat.
Speaker 4 (27:15):
All right, So now as.
Speaker 1 (27:16):
We go forward, do you see other big names getting
dealt the deadline or might this be hey, more of
a you know, hey, we see lots of trades, but
we don't see big names move.
Speaker 7 (27:26):
Well.
Speaker 5 (27:27):
I would say that we've already seen five trades, so
it has been pretty busy, and with the Aaron Fox,
with the Kings taking calls on the Aaron Fox, and
already talking with san Antonio about a potential deal with
his Butler move. Earlier this week, I reported that, you know,
things have been quiet on the brandon Ingram front for
(27:48):
a long time, but Toronto has expressed brandon Ingram. This morning,
Jake Fisher and I did a combo story about New
Orleans has reached out to Miami and at least grown
out the idea of a brandon Ingram for Jimmy Butler deal.
So there is a lot percolating, you know, always we're
not going to know until we know. But I would
(28:10):
say when we've already seen five trades and when we're
talking about the likes of Butler, Baron Fox, brandon Ingram
all being in play, I mean, that's pretty active for
in season. When you have to remember in the NBA,
it's always easier to make these trades in the off
season because you don't have the roster limits. You just
(28:31):
have more teams have more flexibility, Teams have an extra
draft pick that they you know, an extra future pick
that they can offer in trades. It's just always easier
to do the major moves in the off season. So
I would say for an in season deadline early February,
there's a lot going on. Believe, I've been on the
phone all day and I think it'll be that way
(28:52):
for the next five six days.
Speaker 1 (28:54):
He's on Twitter at the Steinline, that is, at the Steinline.
Check them out on Substack, get link on Twitter to
the NBA trade season latest on Jimmy Butler, brandon Ingram
As he talked about he and Jake Fisher have it
right there again at the Steinline on Twitter. Marcus always buddy,
appreciate it. We'll talk to you next week and we
get really close to trades.
Speaker 5 (29:14):
All right, guy, sound good, talk to you.
Speaker 7 (29:15):
So thank you have a good week.
Speaker 1 (29:17):
Look, hey, that's that's that's one of the best takes
that I have heard on the Jimmy Butler thing about
how badly they have to make the playoffs this year
because of the draft implications. The next couple like this
shows you that, oh, okay, wait a minute, now there's
a lot more at stake and they really have to
get something for him because you don't want to go
into that. You don't want to go into the situation.
(29:38):
And Mark just laid out there as oh my goodness,
that's you're talking about the future. That heat is just
gonna say, maybe we're into twenty thirty the next time
we're any good twenty thirty. I mean, Tyler Hero is
not gonna score seventy five points a game by himself.
Speaker 7 (29:49):
Hey, all star, Sorry, Tyler all Star.
Speaker 1 (29:52):
Tyler Hero in that bucket hat is not going to
score seventy five points a game all by himself.
Speaker 7 (29:57):
A man one's confused for.
Speaker 6 (29:58):
Timothy Shallow may look, you look at a situation, right,
and that the long term ramifications of moves that you
make and deals that you sign.
Speaker 7 (30:08):
How often do we start talking about the Lakers, like,
what do they have?
Speaker 6 (30:11):
They got that thing out in twenty nine, right, they
like that one out in twenty nine.
Speaker 7 (30:16):
Right. Actually, we're gonna be on this.
Speaker 6 (30:19):
Show saying, hey, it's actually twenty twenty nine.
Speaker 7 (30:22):
It's a time to activate. Let's go.
Speaker 1 (30:24):
But isn't But isn't it twenty twenty nine when they
trade away their last pick that they gave up for
Steve Nash?
Speaker 4 (30:29):
Isn't that twenty twenty?
Speaker 7 (30:31):
That's it?
Speaker 4 (30:31):
Okay, good, all right, very good.
Speaker 7 (30:33):
Final final countdown.
Speaker 1 (30:34):
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world of sports. From a guy who's been called the
Timothy Shallome of Fox Sports Radio because he once played
Bob Dylan in a biopic in high school, it's Steve.
Speaker 8 (30:45):
To say, you mean he's not dating a Kardashian. I
thought it was because I like chocolate bars.
Speaker 4 (30:49):
Okay, there's that too, that's sure.
Speaker 1 (30:53):
I've seen you walk up and down the hall thing
and the herd reins are gonna fall a time.
Speaker 7 (30:57):
I've seen that from you.
Speaker 12 (30:58):
Yes, yeah, actually you see me walking up and down
the hall and couldn't understand what I was mumbling. Yes,
in the next still in film absolutely the late game
at Golden State went to Phoenix easily one thirty to
one oh five. Devin Booker thirty one points, eleven assests,
just two turnovers, Steph Curry from three point range one
of six, Andrew Wiggins one of five from long distance
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in defeat. Boston won as Jason Tatum, who had twenty
seven points, hit the game winning jumper in the final second.
At New Orleans won eighteen one sixteen twenty eight points
for Jalen Brown. Bad news for the Pelicans not that
they've lost five straight or that Zion Williamson did not
play tonight due to illness. Des Johntay Murray left the
game with a leg injury non contact possible torn Achilles.
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San Antonio beat Milwaukee won forty four to one to
eighteen victor Wembenyama thirty points, fourteen rebounds, six blocks, Denver
shot sixty six percent from the floor, and a win
at Philadelphia one thirty seven to one thirty four that
ends Phillies four game winning streak. Tyrese Maxi with.
Speaker 13 (32:00):
Forty two points in defeat Chicago ended Toronto's five game
winning streak one twenty two to one oh six at
Detroit forty points for Cad Cunningham and a win over
Dallas one seventeen to one oh two. Isaiah Stewart of
the Pistons was suspended for this game due to flagrant fouls,
and the Clippers won. At Charlotte won twelve one oh four.
Kawhi Leonard twenty one points in twenty eight minutes. Julius
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Randall of Minnesota out tomorrow with a groin injury. Washington
first rounder Alex Sar will miss a third straight game
with a sprained ankle. The Wizards have lost sixteen in
a row. Great college basketball game on Fox TV tonight, Purdue,
ranked tenth, trailed Indiana with about ten seconds left, but
beat the Hoosiers eighty one seventy six. Indiana committed twenty turnovers.
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Georgetown defeated Butler. Yale won at Princeton. The four NHL
games all finals now. Columbus won in overtime at Utah,
Colorado shout out Saint Louis five nothing wins for Buffalo
and Dallas each at home. Eagles wide receiver DeVante Smith
did not practice again do to his bad hamstring, but
he has no injury designation for the Super Bowl Game,
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which isn't until a week from Sunday. The Eagles will
practice in Philadelphia again on Saturday and then head to
New Orleans and at Pebble Beach. Sepstraca leads by three
strokes after a second round sixty five.
Speaker 4 (33:15):
Back to you, Thank you, Steve.
Speaker 1 (33:17):
The Jason Smith Show is My best friend Mike Harmon live.
Speaker 3 (33:20):
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Speaker 1 (33:22):
Coming up next, We're gonna get into a story that
I can't believe.
Speaker 4 (33:27):
We don't know more about what is it?
Speaker 1 (33:31):
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This is more than a game.
Speaker 1 (33:58):
Be there, Fox Sports Radio, The Jason Smith Show with
my best friend Mike Harmon.
Speaker 4 (34:05):
I've just been told.
Speaker 1 (34:06):
Alex Tyshert has finished the Shawshank redemption for the WHOA,
So we will get the We will get the final
thoughts from Alex Tychert coming up on that in about
ten minutes. I want to give you ten minutes to
gather your thoughts before. Really this is it's like everybody's
gonna see the movie for the first time before we
get your thoughts on Shawshank Redemption.
Speaker 4 (34:27):
Jayson, I know, I know, I don't.
Speaker 7 (34:31):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (34:31):
If you get your thoughts together.
Speaker 8 (34:33):
I might need a little more than ten minutes, if
you don't mind.
Speaker 1 (34:35):
Okay, all right, maybe thirteen minutes. How does that sound.
I'll give you a thirteen minutes.
Speaker 6 (34:39):
Here we go, just change de Man's life on a
Friday night, final night of this the month of January
twenty twenty five.
Speaker 1 (34:48):
Now here we are on a Friday night, right, And
this is something I was thinking about this the last
couple of days. I've been thinking about it a lot
ever since I did the fake phone call to the
Odd Couple on Wednesday for their Last Call segment where
I did a fake phone call pretended to be Vinnie
from New York, where I said Rob Parker is the
guy who didn't vote for Eachiro.
Speaker 4 (35:08):
Uh, we are now a little bit.
Speaker 3 (35:11):
It was really funny.
Speaker 4 (35:12):
He didn't.
Speaker 1 (35:12):
He didn't know what you know, They did this thing
called last Call, the final segment of their show, where
it's the last time for callers to call in, and
they do that.
Speaker 4 (35:19):
So I called in, pretending to be Vinnie.
Speaker 1 (35:21):
From New York and they went to me and I said, hey,
don't I want you to know I met Rob palk
at the other day. He told me he's a guy
that didn't vote for Eachiro And I'm looking in through
the glass and he's looking at the microphone like.
Speaker 4 (35:32):
What the hell is going on?
Speaker 3 (35:37):
It was really fun.
Speaker 4 (35:38):
Calvin realized it was me.
Speaker 1 (35:40):
But Rob, it took him a second and yeah, I
met you at a Poyo local when he went for
your free refill for that soda.
Speaker 4 (35:46):
You hadn't gotten that you went.
Speaker 1 (35:47):
You went to Pyo Loco two days ago, but you
still had the cup to get that free refill.
Speaker 4 (35:51):
You told me he didn't vote for Eachiro. Then he
realized it was me.
Speaker 1 (35:55):
Uh, but we are We are over a week later
on this story and still we don't know who it
is that didn't vote for each Ro Suzuki for the
Hall of Fame?
Speaker 7 (36:06):
Was that, guys?
Speaker 3 (36:08):
It's no, it's not no.
Speaker 4 (36:10):
It's not that dude.
Speaker 1 (36:11):
That was a f that's was a fake guy for
some kind of fake First, we.
Speaker 4 (36:18):
Were in the NLCS last year.
Speaker 1 (36:19):
Okay, you should you bare you Cheatednzo.
Speaker 4 (36:25):
You cheated, you cheat that. I can't prove it. I
know you cheated something.
Speaker 12 (36:29):
You should go drink and ice called Coca cola from
a glass like a polar bear.
Speaker 7 (36:34):
Bear.
Speaker 1 (36:35):
Five years ago, Derek Jeter didn't get unanimously elected, which
was ridiculous, right, I mean the championships, what he's done
in his career. I mean, he was a stat aggregator
and we and we never went it was a little
better than that, but we never found out who it was.
It didn't vote for him? Also, was it three people
didn't vote for Ken Griffy Jr. Right when he got elected.
(36:56):
You know, ten years ago I would I would have
thought by now, but because of the the way that
we move in the media at warp speed every year.
You know, look where we are right now at the
media with everything happening, not just.
Speaker 4 (37:10):
Sports, but outside of sports.
Speaker 1 (37:11):
I thought, Okay, we're gonna find out this guy. In
a couple of days, someone's gonna leak it. We're gonna
find out who this was that didn't that didn't vote
for Echiro. And here we are just about a week later,
and we still don't know, and we still don't know
who's gonna vote. And remember, we still don't know who
didn't vote for Jeter all those years ago. And it
wasn't a blank ballot because the Hall of Fame Baseball
(37:33):
Right associate said all the ballots were returned. We were
or sorry there were no blank ballots returned. Sorry there
were no because that's when you that's when the only
time you get it where someone doesn't vote if they
return a blank ballot. I don't understand how we don't
know who this is, and more so I can't believe
this person doesn't have the guts to stand up and say, yeah,
I didn't vote for Eachiro because right, like, but you know,
(37:57):
you are entrusted to vote for the Hall of Fame, right,
so normally you have your opinions on stuff, and you
don't need to be beholden to me. You vote for
who you want to vote for, and you may you know,
you cover the game for a long time. I understand that.
But in no world is each your Suzuki not a
first ballot Hall of Famer. So that's something where yeah,
I'm sorry, No, you kind of owe an explanation on that, right,
(38:17):
you kind of owe us an explanation.
Speaker 4 (38:19):
It's like if your kid stays.
Speaker 1 (38:21):
Out late one night, but they come back in and
then and then and the next Hey, how did it go? Oh,
here's what happened. They tell you, Okay, that's great, and
then but a couple of weeks later, they commit at
four o'clock in the morning and the cars got a
dent in it and their clothes are ripped, and you're like,
what happened?
Speaker 4 (38:36):
I want to talk about it?
Speaker 1 (38:37):
No, no, no, you owe me you you tell me
what went on because you gotta tell me what happened here?
Speaker 4 (38:42):
What? What what happened tonight? What went on? Like?
Speaker 1 (38:44):
This is where okay, there's certain times. No, you don't
owe me an explanation. You want to vote for Andrew
Jones or not? All right, I get it. I could disagree,
but I get it. But not voting for each your vote? No, no, no,
you you owe everybody an answer with that and how
you could not vote for him because this is your jobs.
Who vote for the Hall of Fame? And in what
world is he not a Hall of Famer. So that's
(39:05):
what I'm really more upset about is that whoever didn't
do this didn't own it and say, yeah, this is
why I didn't vote for the guy, Like, that's kind
of what I want to hear. And the fact that
we haven't heard tell me this person is scared. They're
scared to come forward. Oh I don't want to get criticized.
Speaker 4 (39:20):
Oh don't know.
Speaker 3 (39:20):
Well, this is that this part of the game.
Speaker 1 (39:22):
You vote on something, your opinion's out there.
Speaker 3 (39:24):
Hey, this this is this is part of the game.
Speaker 1 (39:26):
You didn't sit here and say, oh, I only want
the afford the protection because I want to people to
do what I want to do and not get called
out for it. Now, that's not how the media works.
That's not how this works. You didn't vote for each
ro you got to come out and say it.
Speaker 6 (39:38):
Well, I mean, they have the option of making their
public ballot or not. They should have that stripped away.
I'm not saying the individual I'm saying as as eight.
Speaker 1 (39:51):
Eighty two percent of the people make their ballots public,
like eight four and every five voters do that.
Speaker 7 (39:57):
Just like four out of five dentists. That's true.
Speaker 1 (39:59):
You still have outlier who doesn't brush it. If they
don't brush their teeth, they didn't vote for each roll.
That's your MONI Python logic.
Speaker 6 (40:06):
But there's the principle of it, right that you're still
looking at eighteen percent who, for whatever reason, whatever beliefs
they have on the process, have decided that that isn't
part of the job which you're upholding a public institution.
And this is where we get into the sanctity of
(40:27):
the hall versus the fact that it's a museum and
all the trinkets and artifacts and everything else that are
up in there, and trying to figure out where you
stand in that.
Speaker 7 (40:37):
And I think.
Speaker 6 (40:38):
There's a lot of sanctimonious chatter. I've been very upfront
about that through the years on this platform and throughout
you know, my public life as a radio guy is
that I think, you know, folks hold themselves a little
too seriously here. But in the end, you're also still
writing for people or talking about it. In theory, you're
(41:01):
not just Hey, I'm sitting in a basement somewhere, I
make my vote and this goes off into the ether,
and let's see what chaos I write I write about.
Speaker 7 (41:10):
No, you in theory.
Speaker 6 (41:12):
Are trying to talk about the process and talk about
the game you supposedly love with people, So why wouldn't
you share who you voted for or in this case,
who you didn't. In other words, strip people in their votes.
There's too many of them.
Speaker 1 (41:28):
I'm really just gonna start telling people it's Rob Parker,
even if it's not true.
Speaker 3 (41:31):
No, it's good, Jenny did that's Rob Parker.
Speaker 4 (41:33):
It's not true, it's not true.
Speaker 1 (41:35):
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