June 24, 2025 • 41 mins
Jason and Mike tell you exactly why the NBA Playoffs are waaay too long. The guys react to the Celtics trading Jrue Holiday to the Portland Trail Blazers for Anfernee Simons. And Grimace absolutely needs to throw out the FIRST PITCH TOMORROW.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:22):
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Speaker 1 (00:29):
Hello, Welcome in side hour three The Jason Smith Show
with my best friend Mike Harmon.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
Why are you laughing?
Speaker 4 (00:39):
It's just funny.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
I have heard it in a few days because I
heard laugh a few days because it's funny when you
say muto obo and you said.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
Hadn't heard any fake laughed to my stuff?
Speaker 1 (00:47):
I didn't.
Speaker 4 (00:47):
I laughed for real.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
That was fake.
Speaker 4 (00:49):
No, I'll get it fake. Oh go ahead, say something.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
Else, mets you you're so funny.
Speaker 3 (00:56):
Sound of the same.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
Yeah, no, no, no, that was a fake one. Harmony
was the other one was a real one. I'm caught
in a uh time time lapse in time continuum that's
been broken.
Speaker 4 (01:09):
What the hell does that even mean? That's what I'm
trying to say. What does that mean?
Speaker 1 (01:13):
That. That was my response to, I'm not going to
try to guess whether you're laughing or fake. You'd be
a great politician. Well, you're like pious thickness from Uh,
that's exactly right. There's many things, my lord, whether the
truth is among them as yet to why there was
a nonsensical, true politician pious you will be well, I
(01:34):
will say this, no spoiler, no spoiler, no spoiler. But
you know Ray Findes is in twenty eight years later? Yeah, sure,
what he's what he's won that? Well, he's in the movie.
He's been doing a lot of promotion for it. He
said he didn't care. I don't know. He's he's been
in the movie. And the movie takes place in the
(01:54):
United Kingdom. Okay, so we know these things.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
What's next. There's zombies?
Speaker 1 (01:57):
No, no, there's actually it's a no zombie film. They're
Wizardy film. There's no zombies. Okay, yeah, they're they're all unicorns.
What except except all of the horns like are mechanical
and they kill people just by like just putting in.
It's like getting one of those big drills. Yeah, sho
show he is the one that has the Dodger's home
(02:18):
it on you see that? Yeah, and and the and
the actual the screwy thing comes out of the help
long Yeah, no yourself? When is showy Unicorn bobblehead nice?
So again knows again, I promise me no spoilers. But
Ray finds it and he and he has you know,
he speaks with a British accent because it's it's in
the UK, so obviously doesn't need to play someone you know,
(02:39):
from the United States or different places. And every time
he talks, I just keep waiting for him to say, like,
it's definitely a Voldemort kind of vibe that I hanging
in there, and I'm like, Okay, I'm waiting for him
to say something. I did that when I was watching
the menu for the first time in the theater, going
to kill you now, Harry, Yes, he actually plays Valdimore. Yeah, yeah,
(03:07):
So how do they find the horse Crux? Well, the
thing is it's a zombie horse crucks.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
You said there's no zombies.
Speaker 4 (03:14):
Say I lied. There actually are zombies.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
That's logic than the sentence I gave you no, look
I told you twenty eight years later. Is fun, it's
it's good, it's different, but there are definitely some plotlines.
Speaker 4 (03:27):
I go, oh, okay, I got a question about that.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (03:32):
Oh, I gotta, I gotta, I got a question about that. Okay.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
I saw a movie over the weekend that included stuff
about unicorns too materialists. Oh I thought you're gonna say,
like my little Pony. No, I did not go down
that that well. But yeah, Dakota Johnson and Pedro Pascal
before he becomes the dude from the Fantastic Four. Uh
and uh Captain America christ Evans. No, that sounds to
me like a movie that was they shot like three
(03:56):
years ago and it's just been sitting around. You may
as well as well put it out.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
Why not?
Speaker 1 (04:01):
Good, Let's take advantage of putting a Pedro Pascal movie out,
like a week before the Fantastic Four comes out. Let's
take advantage. Let's dump it right. I just got that field.
Maybe I'm wrong, I just got that sense. It worked
for me, a little bit of a rom com. Kept
waiting for that a twenty four twist. Oh yeah, like
all of a sudden, like you know that the kid
is going to be payman or zombies or you know,
(04:25):
murders dolls or something.
Speaker 4 (04:28):
A kid that shouldn't have chocolate cake, has chocolate cake,
and they gut to go to the hospital.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
Okay, we'll go ahead. Frost for God. Is that where
Ronald Lacuna Junior saves the day and slays the Mets?
You were just a dude. You're like Yankee fans. You're
obsessed with the Mets every single day. You're like more
obsessed with the Mets than I am. I just.
Speaker 4 (04:47):
Ls just keep coming, obsessed with a team that beats
you four out of seven already this year.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
Yeah, but they they set up the rest of the
league and then beat their ass because after that Dodger series,
if they have not been the same, Oh no, no,
well we're still trying to was the end of that
first game of that race series, which but you don't
sound but hurt at all by it. I'm I'm I'm
I'm fine. We're still fifteen sixteen games over five hundred.
It's okay, We're not twelve games under. Then I would say, Okay,
(05:13):
now things are getting really bad, but keep this up.
You're gonna be I will have to say, Hey, how
about Grimace gets out there and throws out the first
bleep and pitch tomorrow?
Speaker 4 (05:20):
Hey, David Stearns. How about that? Huh, how about you
get him back?
Speaker 1 (05:22):
But you know tomorrow is Silver Sluggers Tuesday and Silver
Surfer Tuesday. Is that what it is? No silver sluggers.
Evidently it's a special thing if you're fifty five years
old or older. Oh, it's a ticket package. You had
a cheap breakfast at I hoop? Is that what it
is for the silver slider? It's the Mets. I'd like
one silver slugger. I think the Mets don't have any
silver sluggers. We have lots of players that are good. Okay,
(05:46):
just again, Yankee like, yeah, you're like Fabiano my dad. Oh,
you're just obsessed with the Mets. I don't go to
bed at seven o'clock tomorrow. You get a warning track
salute whatever that means. I think if you bought the
ticket package, I think you get to go on the
warning track and the rest the crowd salute you forget
and reach it fifty five years old, the crowd collapse
when the Mets at the fly ball to the warning
track and then almost out. Yeah, very good sort, And
(06:10):
say Gina played that. So Tyrese Halliburton about twenty minutes
ago put out a very long statement on Twitter regarding
his achilles tear. Uh, gonna miss maybe all of next season,
getting hurt in Game seven. Yes, you're like a big
topic we've been talking about, and uh, he's got a big,
(06:31):
long statement, right. He obviously obviously pays for a Twitter
premium because he puts out like seven paragraphs and it's
a great statement. It's a great thing of how he's
feeling right now, and you know, telling Indiana he's gonna
be back. But this is what I want to focus on,
is what he says. In the end of the first paragraph.
He types out, Man, don't know how to explain it
(06:51):
other than shock. Words cannot express the pain of this letdown.
The frustration is unfathomable. I've worked my whole life to
get to this moment, and this is how it ends.
Makes no sense. Read the next three lines. Now, well, okay,
now that I've gotten surgery, I wish I could count
the number of times people will tell me I'm gonna
come back stronger. What a cliche? Lol, This blank sucks. Okay,
(07:12):
that's pretty good, right, So I guess you don't get
right to it again. And I'm always very cognizant of
when something bad happens to someone to want it to
not just say right away, you'll be fine, everything be fine. No,
I get there. You want to broadbrush and make everything
better right away. But understand that people are going through
stuff and you can't just say, oh, you'll be fine,
you'll be fine. You don't go to a funeral when
someone significant other dies and says, you know you'll love
(07:33):
the single scene. You know who's always had a crush
on you. Let me tell you. You don't do that right
to understand. I know it's awful, and you help people
that way. Don't just write away you'll be fine. It's
been less than twenty four hours and I'm looking at
a year of not playing basketball. And you gotta give
people a chance. You gotta get when bad stuff happens.
Understand that. Yeah, it's just an instinct though. It's just
(07:54):
that immediate reaction, right you talk to someone, job, loss, separation,
whatever it is. Yeah, it's the natural inclinations like it'll
get better. Yeah, I mean, I get and you're trying
to be positive. You mean, well, but you understand, and
you know, I hope people understand. This is just what
they're They don't know what to say, but they want
to wish good things for you, but at some point
(08:16):
it's like, Hey, I'm in a really low place right now.
Understand that they would like somebody to talk to you
about it and just say hey, not just go hey,
You'll be fine. I'm gonna go get to get a sandwich, Like, Hey,
I understand this is really bad thing, dude, and I
get it. Sandwich can cure at least could really make
you feel better. Yes, how about how about I get
you a sandwiches? No, I'm so sorry about Can I
get you a sandwich? Can I get some? But this
(08:36):
is a thing, and this is something we have talked
about for a while, and we talked about it a
week ago. So when you heard it today on the
radio or television, you were like, oh, remember we're ahead
of the curve. The latest player to blow is Achilles
this season in the playoffs Tyre's Holibary.
Speaker 5 (08:53):
Right.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
We watch happen a couple other times watch with Jason Tatum.
The NBA playoffs are simply too long, and we've talked
about this because what the playoffs have become is not Hey,
here's a march to the NBA Finals and the two
best teams are playing. It's the two teams that are
playing at a high level and that are healthy. And
(09:14):
at some point the NBA has got to realize, that's
not a great formula. Man, It's not all the other
sports are. We got the best of the best going
at it. Major League Baseball they find a way to
put a lot of teams and it doesn't take forever
for the playoffs. Best teams play right, hottest teams make
it right. Best teams. Same thing for the NFL. Yes,
injuries happen in the NFL, but generally, hey, the best teams,
(09:34):
they make it. We're playing our best football the best time.
Our game plan is better. But the NBA has simply
become a war of attrition. It's been we need to
win the series and stay healthy. And every year there
is a first team NBA All Star team where guys
get hurt and get knocked out for the rest of
(09:55):
the playoffs or part of the next season. It's just
too much. The NBA already he asked too much of
fans to say, hey, come through us with the three
months of playoffs that we have going on, and then
you have the daunting as a fan task of looking
at the NBA Finals and going really, Game one is Sunday,
Game two is Thursday, Game three is Sunday, Game four
(10:18):
is Wednesday. You're telling me it's two and a half
weeks to get from Game one to Game seven, and
that's daunting for a fan. This is why you see
people unplugged and why ratings of the beginnings of the
NBA Finals were so low. It's okay, you're asking me,
it's two and a half weeks. Man, I'll check back
in with you. Okay, I'll check back in we get
closer to the end. So it's enough for fans knowing that, okay,
the playoffs are too long, but for players.
Speaker 4 (10:41):
I don't know how many more years.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
The NBA has got to look at this and say, hey, guys,
just keep getting hurt because it's just too much basketball.
The season is doing eighty two games is too long.
Playing the back to backs is too long. It's too
much basketball. It's too much series. I always said, hey,
best of five series should best of fives, but it's
just too long for players to play at this level.
The court is ninety four feet and the players have
(11:02):
gotten bigger and stronger and faster, and there's no real
way around that. There's no real rate. They haven't figured
out a way to say, how do we combat this
a little bit? Well, the owners won't say yes because
the players don't want to make less money. But really,
this is just gonna keep happening. It's gonna take a
commissioner with a vision and a visionary which is not
Adam Silver, to say, hey, okay, we got to take
(11:22):
care of things. We can't have back to backs in
the NBA regular season anymore. We got to play less
regular season games. We gotta play less games in the playoffs.
Like it's not gonna happen, but it's what needs to happen,
or this is just how the players are gonna go
every single year. It's hey, we're at the end and
we won. Why because we were sort of the best team,
but we were absolutely the healthiest and we didn't lose
anybody on the way and because look at why, look
(11:44):
at why the Celtics are gone right, Look they lost
Jason Tatum. Now they were probably probably anyway, but they
lost right other teams you lose guys, big, big players
for lots of times like this is what happens because
it's just too much stress in too long about it's
just too long. It's the short amount of time they
played games in the NBA play it's all of this.
It's four rounds of playoffs, four rounds of games going
(12:07):
of series going six and seven games, and we're turning rund.
It's just too much, right, And we've said this for
a long time, and we actually spotlighted this a week
and we talked about the injuries. Yeah, well we look
at it on the larger scale, right where we talk
about the breakdown of where revenues are. Well, that requires
the union all to come back and say, well, we
(12:27):
want less basketball and we're willing to take less money too.
And I think as an entire population of players, you're
probably gonna get enough blowback to where that becomes a
non starter.
Speaker 4 (12:38):
Right.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
It becomes the discussion more we've already done it, and
we mock it, or at least I do roundly the
can a guy get to the sixty five game threshold,
which means they already missed seventeen games, but sixty five
game threshold to win an award? And we lament when
the guys that, oh he got to sixty two and
then he got he missed some time, so he didn't
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get there and things of that nature. So it requires
the meeting of the minds to come to a realization there.
And you know, the best of seven approach has always
been the idea of well, in a seven game series,
the better team the preponderance of evidence is that they're
going to win, and ultimately, if you earn the higher seed,
(13:23):
you should have that advantage in theory. But maybe it
goes the other way. Maybe you can get folks to
vote the other way. But it also now requires your
seventy six billion dollar TV partners to come on board
this because everybody always wants to put it on the owners.
They could make a little less money. Okay, that's fine,
But in the way this works, it's it's a revenue
(13:45):
share with the players. Players have to be okay with
taking less if we're something going to shave off ten
games a year or days or games in the playoffs,
because where where does the NBA make its money? When
you get to a game seven, and so people are
paying attention at a much higher level. The ratings were
nearly double what they were for any other game in
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this series because you got to a game seven. When
you get to a winner take all. It's there and yes,
I know obviously you don't have that circumstance pop up
or maybe it would, but but yeah, it's it's now
the get the scientists involved. We've talked about usage rates
a lot, and we talk about the breakneck style of
(14:28):
play that maybe you've got to go back to the
labs and figure out how that all changes out and
what's the sports science part of the next iteration of
what we're doing with the league exit out about a
Fresco exit swollen Dome the Jason Smith Show with my
best friend Mike Krmon. Again, it would need a visionary
leader to come out, and that doesn't happen. But so
(14:48):
this is what the playoffs are going to be. It's
just can you stay healthy? Right? The Knicks might have
been in the finals last year, but they lost everybody.
All these teams they lose players, and why they're knocked
they came out, that's just that's just a guy that
had a say and man rotation away your visionary I
think of that image of Adam Silver where the crowd's
going insane and it's just him and his yes men
and they're just stowic and the Knicks weren't in the
(15:12):
finals exit that they could have last year, could have
got there, could have got but lustre. Every year teams
just lose these players and it's just going to be
the way the NBA Playoffs goes right. Visionary leader, which
the NBA doesn't have. Coming up next, you want a
big hot take coming off of Game seven, We got
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Speaker 1 (16:37):
The Jason Smith Show with my best friend Mike Harmon. Oh,
the Mets must have played today? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (16:44):
It ended, It ended and ended poorly for the Mets.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
Well, I just see online there's a certain highly respected
member of the Mets fan base that's imploring them to
do something really drastic to get things kick started. Can
I guess? Go ahead? McDonald's, well, it's got something to
do with me. You mean me saying get Grimace to
(17:11):
throw out the first gear. Mets, have Grimace throw out
the ready all caps first freaking pitch tomorrow. What the
hell are you waiting for? Who wrote that? Thank you, Jason.
The fact that you really think they want to win
is hilarious.
Speaker 4 (17:31):
What is that?
Speaker 1 (17:32):
Because or else they would pitch Grimace would be throwing
out the first pitch if you wanted to win. I
mean we did get Tiffany Stratton. That was spectacularly. I
didn't guess who's not throwing out the first pitch tomorrow, Grimace.
Speaker 4 (17:43):
No, maybe now because John Paul Morosi, like did.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
Say he's in Italy. Yeah, okay, but he still knows
David Stearns, and maybe he can get Hey, you know,
international call right now you can make an international call
or an international text.
Speaker 4 (17:55):
You can do that now.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
It's not it's not like it used to be where
some would call and go collect call on paying for this,
hang up the phone. That's too expensive. Not gonna do it.
Not when you're chopping up baseball with the Pope noting
I needed to get one of those Pope cards I
have signed, Maybe the Pope. Maybe I'll get the Pope
to sign one of the one of his hats. You
bring it back and sell it, Yeah, I get I
don't want to sell it. I want it.
Speaker 4 (18:18):
Yeah, I would. I would try to arm a museum.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (18:20):
No, I try to wear it into work at least one.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
Well, you get pizza stuff I've worn into work. We
got pizza all over it, pizza on the Pope. Patten,
you can leave it outside the back door like you're
doing all the rest of the clothes. Sag for Pizza
on the Pope. Pizza on the Pope. That could be
a podcast. It's a Pizza on the Pope podcast. And
the Pope does a podcast where he eats pizza with
(18:44):
someone who interviews him and he talks about religion. That's
a podcast.
Speaker 4 (18:48):
I'm going to suggests in the Pope the Pope Pizza.
It's a different it's a different company, you know, pizza
in Italy.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
Okay, great, that's like you know, going to Mecca, uh
and everything is, Hey, here's who's bringing the pizza in today,
and it's a twenty minutes they talk about religion, Pope
says whatever you want, maybe talking about the White Sox.
Do you like the pizza, Pizza and the Pope. There
you go, boom. That'd be the biggest podcast in the world. Sure, okay,
I think about that. People how to make pod money
for podcasts. If you want a podcast where it was
(19:16):
the Pope eating pizza and talking about religion, how many
people would listen to that?
Speaker 4 (19:21):
Millions upon millions and millions. Forget about Joe Rogan people.
You would get fifty million people would listen to that podcast.
Speaker 1 (19:28):
Well, and he's a socks fan, so he's got to
have a bunch of snark to it. He even listened
to that, dare you well? I mean people would guy
the White Soze fast forward, fast forward, fast forward. Okay,
but that means he's going to be snarky and he's
gonna get after it. So yeah, at some point you're
gonna have to bring you know, religion to you know,
bring it to the to the twenty twenty twenties. And okay,
(19:51):
how about the pope doing a podcast? Boom, there you go,
patent pending, patent penning on that idea, just not even
just pizza with the whole pope thing and any who's
John Morosi and and Sternsy for theirs and the Pope. Yes,
you've misidentified yourself as the Pope. I will blind you
in paperwork, my son, go in peace. Wait, what do
(20:13):
you mean, blad, Yes, you'll see. You'll be hearing from
my lawyers. What if he actually thinks that the White
Sox are good? Oh, I think he's gotta know, man,
you yeah, yeah, I think he's got to know. The
guy was at the World Series. There's video of him
at the World Series. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (20:30):
No, I think he knows. I think he knows. I
think I you know what, I think that probably.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
Helped him, you know, because that helps you through a
lot of Hey, the Pope, Hey, the Pope is for
you know, lost causes, right, that's what you know. Hey,
the Pope is for lots of causes. He knows how
to help you through pain, suffering and longing. Yeah, if
he was a Yankees fan, they'd never say said, beat it.
You're not making any Yankee fan, pope. Come on, man,
we don't want to see your pope hat with a
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Yankee logo on the front, because you know that's what happened.
Speaker 4 (20:57):
Forget it. Can't do that.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
Put on a ball with Gena's number on the back,
like like in in h like in the White Chalk.
It's a special commemorative number is on the back, Gita
on the back, Gina, you might not know. I'm pretty
sure he knows. John paulm Rossi is not going to
Italy to interview the Pope unless he knows he's gonna
be able to talk a little bit of baseball with him.
(21:20):
Oh baseball, sure, Yeah, Hey, white Sox, though, Yeah, do
you think like you think like the Pope would pull
one of those uh superstar things, like when uh, like
when we went to uh the Super Bowl a few
years ago and somebody's uh lost up the chocolate factor.
Somebody's PR team said to us, Okay, no questions about
the Heisman trophy, gave us a full sheet Elliott's people.
Speaker 4 (21:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
Oh, I wasn't gonna say it, but you did. Okay, Yeah, no,
it was the most ridiculous. No questions about Urban Meyer,
no questions about the Heisman Trophy. Then then why are
we talking to him?
Speaker 4 (21:52):
Okay?
Speaker 1 (21:53):
Do you think like that?
Speaker 4 (21:54):
You know, John Palmer Rosi goes in and he and
the Pope's pr like the like uh kind of Jordan
Hudson and says, okay, no questions about the White Sox,
no questions about Ryan Storm ride store phownership, no questions
about the Cubs.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
This is going to be strict religion podcast, right. You
even bring up Albert Bell's court back all of a sudden,
I can't ask the Pope any of these questions, I guess. Okay,
remember that was a laminated sheet they put in front
of us. Some questions we could not ask.
Speaker 3 (22:26):
It.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
If I were to tell you, I got a lot
of sign memo for that one.
Speaker 5 (22:31):
It was one of the dumbest things I've foreseen. Signs
of him eating the spoon actually moves like a bobblehead.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
And we did the inn.
Speaker 4 (22:43):
We never aired it because it was like, Okay, we
can't talk about the biggest thing.
Speaker 1 (22:46):
Okay, great, here's all. Here's the five things people would
actually want to hear. I tell you we hear it. No,
we didn't wear it. We did not air it.
Speaker 4 (22:55):
No we heard it.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
No we didn't. Wait wait, do you need to say
that for somebody to keep something or asolutely aired it.
Speaker 4 (23:00):
No, we didn't air it.
Speaker 1 (23:02):
I'm not giving that stuff back. No, we didn't giving
back my head with the spoon on it. I'm not
doing that. But ye, that tattoos bob bobblehead. We were
talking about earlier. What's next? You're gonna have me return
my Sam Donald authentic draft hat. Wait you kept that.
You were supposed to give that to me poster. Now
(23:27):
it doesn't matter because he's you know, he's on his
fourth team since the Jets, So it's okay, it doesn't
matter if you don't have that. But if it makes
the Hall of Fame, Jason, guess what he doesn't have? Yes,
you know what, I think I'm okay with the possibility
of having to wear that if Sam Darnold goes to
the Pro Football Hall of Fame. And for all you know,
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I'm saving it for you, buddy. Oh thanks, wow, for
all I look at that, but all you know, I don't.
I don't think he is though a good line. For
all you know, Well, you know I'm saving it for
you when he goes. Here's your Sam Darkold unless I
don't wear it in good health. But look, you want
a hot take coming off again, we'll get to the
big NBA trade. This went down a few minutes ago
and coming up in a few minutes. But Game seven
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of the Finals, right, Halliburton gets hurt and we spent
a lot talking about it. It's a big shocking story,
and the Pacers have a one point lead at halftime.
Halliburton gets hurt midway through the first quarter, and in
the second half the thunder do enough to win. Right now,
I'm generally not one of those guys it's gonna say,
oh man, if this guy didn't get hurt, everything would
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have been different. Now, if Halliburton didn't get hurt, we'd
beat tonight talking about the Pacers winning the NBA title
and being the most unlikely NBA champion since either the
Pistons in two thousand and four or the Milwaukee Bucks
in nineteen seventy eight. Like we'd be going back talking
about where this ranks as far as most shocking champions
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in a sport, because this game was going the Pacers
way right, and I don't mean it was going the
Pacers way up until Halliburton got hurt.
Speaker 4 (25:03):
For the entire first half.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
Even with Halliburton hurt, they were hitting their threes, they
were moving the basketball. This was one of those games
where the Pacers were getting the thunder to play their way.
And what the Pacers like to do, and we've seen
plenty of times in the playoffs, is they want to
get their third quarter, fourth quarter rotations to the point
where the other teams stars are tired and they're still
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trotting out fresh guys and they're hitting threes who were
guys who were wide open because the other team is
tired and they're not as focused and not as locked
in defensively. This is what the page why the Pacer
were able to come back and win games because their
rotation goes eight to nine deep, right, and Halliburton was
going to be someone that was going to open that
up right in the third and fourth quarter. He's the
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guy that sets up the threes, being as tall as
he is, being able to move in and out of
defenders the way he does, he's so light on his feet.
He's the guy that makes the open shots the Nie
Smith happen, makes the open shots to Matherin have and
so there would they would have been better hitting threes
in the second half, which they couldn't do because they
started off pretty well hit in threes which they couldn't do.
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So the Pacers, I know the game they would have played,
they would have they were getting the Thunder to play
their pace, and honestly, you look at the Thunder, this
was a poorly played Game seven. I can't I don't
know that there's a team that's won a Game seven
in the history of the NBA that's played as poorly
as the Thunder did. They didn't shoot well, they didn't
close out, they didn't find a way to really throw
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the Hammer down. It was just okay. Third quarter, we
stopped the Pacers from hitting their threes were eventually going
to win. But this was a bad game shooting from Halliburton.
It was, you know, you finally had a nice night
from Chad Holmgren. But there's nobody else to write home about,
to say, boy, this guy saved us. It was simply yeah.
The Pacers were reeling without Halliburton, and they did the
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best they could, but eventually they were too hamstrung and
all the Thunder had to do was just not give
it away, and they almost did. Right, This is a
game they should have won by thirty thirty five points.
This should have been Hey, a ten to fifteen point
lead at halftime, a thirty point lead going to the
fourth quarter. And they're all laughing on the bench for
most of it, watching guys come off the bench that
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never play play six seven minutes the end of this game.
But it's not because the Thunder played terribly. They played
poorly in game six, they played poorly in Game seven.
They just didn't they They just happened to play not
as badly and were as hurt as the Pacers not
having Tyres Halliburton. I mean, if you told me before
the game, hey, what what are the final numbers gonna
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look like for the Oklahoma City Thunder in Game seven, right,
you said, be okay, and the numbers are gonna look
like this. They're gonna shoot right around forty from the floor.
Oh okay, they're not gonna hit their threes. SGA is
gonna go eight for twenty five? Is anybody gonna stand out?
Speaker 4 (27:51):
No, you're gonna get ten from Caruso off the bench, Yeah,
Chet Holmburn's gonna be okay. Anything else or anybody else? No,
not really.
Speaker 1 (27:58):
I would say then they're gonna lose. This is we're
gonna lose by ten or fifteen points. Instead they won
by double digits. This was not a great game. They
were bad on Sunday night, but they just happened to be.
Have to outlast the team you're playing agains. You're not
playing another superstar stud a team. You're playing a team
that's minus its second best player and it's emotional leader
and a guy that's become a star in the playoffs,
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and that's a hard thing to come back from if
he doesn't get hurt. We're talking about the Pacers World
Champions battled back to a ten point deficit inside that
final two minutes. But okay, See holds them off to
your point forty percent from the field. I mean one
of the things that Indiana had done all regular season
and certainly during the playoff stretches feasting on turnovers and
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making teams pay by going to pace. Well, they gave
up thirty two points off turnovers in this one. Right,
And while oka See wins the points in the paint
with Chad having a big game, he had disappeared several times.
And much to my sugar In and or two guys
I championed all along, they're champions. And now I'm like,
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but they didn't play well. Right, they got their tunnel,
but it's like I feel less less than satisfied even
though they got to the finish line. Pacers got their big,
big points from McConnell. And I got to imagine anybody
who was a casual observer that came in, you know,
to get it to that sixteen or eighteen million threshold
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at the high end for viewing, you're probably cheering for
Matherin and McConnell. Right. Mcconald's like a one man gang. Now,
one thing they couldn't do without Halliburton is like, yeah,
nobody distribute the ball right near right leads with six
right And that's not TJ mcconnald's thing. He is kind
of a drive and dish guy. But he's not someone
that's going or set up with a first pass at
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great entry pass. But he's not someone that's gonna spread
the floor. And because you.
Speaker 4 (29:51):
Don't have to worry about you don't have to roll
defenders to him because it's TJ McConnell.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
And he's just gonna go off to dribble and create
and make his own shot, Like how many times is
he going? He's like, what's he? He made the shot?
All right? He goes in amongst the trees and hits
a layup. This is where you're looking at chet Holm
going what are you doing?
Speaker 4 (30:07):
Man?
Speaker 1 (30:08):
How's that guy scoring the ball on you? On there?
And I thought that the moment after the game, and
I know it was much publicized the way that Tyreus
Halliburton was meeting the teammates and in the embrace he
and McConnell where they they got too close with the
camera and they shoot them away. But just the emotion
of it, and can't just you can't help but feel
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for for that run, and you would have liked to
see it play straight. But I like the fact that
Indiana didn't quit. If anything you saw, OKC might have
been more shell shot at Halliburton's departure than the Pacers were,
because their whole mantra has been next guy up, and
they played with the bench with Matheren, with McConnell coming
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up as big as they did at least gave us
to where it was never an easy and comfortable run
for the Thunder as you might i'd have expected it to.
So while you didn't get the runaway victory, they get
the parade exit out about a Fresco exit swollen dome.
Jason Smith Mike Harmon Live from the Fox Sports Radio Studios,
Time how to find out what's trending in the wide
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world of sports from special delivery Steve de Sager, who
has everything in Major League Baseball tonight, except there were
no games in New York, so you can start outside
of there. Well, one team showed up in New York tonight.
Speaker 6 (31:25):
Everything is final because the Padres have just lost at
home ten to six to Washington.
Speaker 1 (31:30):
You may recall that at.
Speaker 6 (31:31):
One point Juan Soto was on the Padres and when
they acquired him from Washington three years ago. The Padres
gave the National six players, including pitcher Mackenzie Gore, infielder c. J. Abrams,
and an outfielder who starred tonight in San Diego. James
Wood had three hits, three runs, scored four RBIs for
the Nats, including a home run.
Speaker 1 (31:52):
James Woods the action just one of him.
Speaker 6 (31:56):
He's singular twenty two home runs for Wood sixty one
RBIs in this season. Former Padres draft choice, by the way.
The Angels beat Boston nine to five with four runs
in the bottom of the eighth, but Angel closer Kenley
Jansend left in the ninth inning with an apparent shoulder injury.
Great stat from the Elias Sports folks at the Angels
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tonight are the first team since nineteen ninety one to
use eight of their own first rounders in a game.
Walker Buehler was the Boston starting pitcher. The ex Dodger
allowed five runs in the first, including a couple bases
loaded walks and a bassis loaded hit batter. He lasted
four innings seven walks, did not get a decision. Arizona's
Corbyn Carroll, star outfielder was out again tonight for their
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ten to nothing win at the White Sox. Bruceed hand
has been the problem, they say, missing a fifth straight game.
MLB Network says tonight it's a fractured wrist and he's
due to go on the injured list for the Diamondbacks
and Arizona slugger a Uhenneo Suarez left tonight's game hit
by a pitch on the hand. X rays were negative, however,
He one National League Player of the Week for a
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third time this year. The AL Player of the Week
is the Mariners Col Rally, who homered his thirty second
home run of the season Seattle one at Minnesota eleven
to two. Rally has hit six home runs in his
last six games. Pittsburgh's Nick Gonzalez went five for five
and a five to four win at Milwaukee Saint Louis
over the rival Cubs eight to two, and it was
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Atlanta beating the Mets, Yes three to two the final
in New York. The Mets have lost nine to ten.
The Idol Phillies are first in the NL East, game
and a half over the Mets. The Mets sent luis
An Hillecunya to triple A today joining catcher Francisco Alvarez,
who went to Triple A.
Speaker 1 (33:38):
Yesterday, Baltimore shout.
Speaker 6 (33:39):
Out Texas six to nothing, Jackson Holliday with three hits,
four RBIs os. Infielder Jordan Westbroog still out with a
sprain finger. Pacers guard Tyrese Haliburton had surgery tonight for
his torn achilles. He could miss next season. The Celtics
traded guard Drew Holliday to Portland for Anthony Simons, who
has an expiring contract, and two second rounders WNBA off tonight.
Speaker 4 (34:01):
Back to you, Thank you, Steve O.
Speaker 1 (34:03):
The Jason Smith Show with my best friend Mike Carmon
coming up next. Yes, we had the Kevin Durant trade yesterday.
Another big deal has gone down. Is one title contender
saying maybe we're waving the white flag on next year already.
Speaker 4 (34:18):
That's next Jason and Mike Fox Sports Radio.
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Speaker 1 (34:31):
It's never a bad time for Shaboozie Fox Sports Radio.
The Jason Smith Show with my best friend Mike Harmon.
So we've had all of like eight hours to celebrate
the Oklahoma City thunder championhip. Congratulations. Now we're talking about
trades and getting ready for the draft and two nights,
two nights Wednesday, starter, Remember two nights because we needed
to have that second night showing of Brownie James.
Speaker 4 (34:53):
Well, he's gonna get drafted again. He's getting drafted again.
That's what's gonna happen.
Speaker 1 (34:57):
So, uh did he up his drafts from last year.
It's gonna go early in the second round. The Celtics
are trading Drew Holliday to the Blazers for Anthony Simons
and two second round picks.
Speaker 4 (35:10):
Shamsterrani are reporting this earlier tonight. Now.
Speaker 1 (35:15):
The plan right now, according to multiple reports, is for
the Blazers to keep Drew Holliday, who's thirty five and
signed that big three year, one hundred and five million
dollar contract with the Celtics, and try to compete in
the West. Okay, great, anytime a franchise it's way off
the beaten path. Hey, we're gonna do this and compete. Awesome.
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I want to compete to get back to the ten.
But or try.
Speaker 4 (35:40):
This tells you that and this is tough.
Speaker 1 (35:43):
This tells you that the Celtics have realized we need
to rebuild, not rebuild, not suddenly get rid of everybody,
but we need to retool and rebuild because we're already
spending next season mostly without Jason Tatum. You had the
torn achilles during the series against the Knicks, which seems
like it was like eight months ago, because you know
that's how long the season is. And now they realize, Okay,
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we didn't get we won the title, we didn't get
out of the second round, and our best player is
going to be out most of the year. Why are
we paying Drew Holliday this kind of money?
Speaker 6 (36:17):
Right?
Speaker 4 (36:17):
So, which again, uh, you know, this is the Celtics saying,
all right, is it really worth it to keep Drew
Holliday around? We don't know if we're.
Speaker 1 (36:27):
Gonna even be a title contender next year. Then we're
getting to another year. No, let's go get some offense
and every Simons could play a little bit, right, scores
twenty a game, he's a twenty a game, he's ten
years younger, he's a thirty point shooter, all that, and
it gets done, and it gets them almost twenty million
dollars under that second apron. Yeah, and look and the
Blazers were actually pretty good down down the stretch last
(36:50):
half of the year. They played much better, so I again,
and they have a young core, so I understand what's
going on there. But the Celtics, really, okay, this is
the begin You're gonna see some moves. I'll be surprised
if you saw Porzingis getting moved. And you're gonna see
some other things happening this offseason because the Celtics, okay,
it's time to We won, right, we won the title,
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but now things happened, and Tatum getting hurt is gonna
be the domino that starts all of this. So now
this isn't the first trade you're gonna see. You're gonna
see the Celtics try to get younger. They're not gonna
be able to keep all of their guys. How are
we gonna compete? We need some off we need we
have a whole in our offense right now without Jason Tatum.
So here Simon's in theory to come in and pick
up some of that slot.
Speaker 3 (37:30):
Right.
Speaker 1 (37:31):
The best thing to do, hey, when you're missing offense,
bringing a shooting guard, a small forward, and that's what
you have. So this is gonna be This is a
good move for the Celtics. I really like it. I
mean I like it more for the Celtics, honestly than
I do for the Blazers, even though the Blazers are
going to hey, maybe we're gonna try to win now
a little bit. But for the Celtics, it's okay. We
got rid of a big contract, we got younger, we
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got some offense. We've got a guy that's gonna hit
some threes. So yeah, I mean, this is a really
good move for the Celtics. But this is also what
you have come to enjoy and love about the Celtics
the last couple of years, This big championship corps. This
is now getting broken up well, and you're also looking
at a retool on the fly, Leaner, meaner, younger, take
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some of the high salary out. If you get rid
of Porzingis, bring back a couple of bodies, go back
to you know, a deeper rotation. The East is a mess.
We've talked about it a lot, right Orlando, retooling a
bit and bringing in Desmond Baine is actually a big
winning move potentially right now. As we talked about go
find the podcast, as we broke down that deal when
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he showed up in Orlando because of all the injuries
and all the uncertainty from your would be contenders, even
your Nicks, what the next iteration of their squad looks like.
Still waiting on a coach, Still still waiting on a coach.
But there are right now one of the favorites to
win the NBA title in early odds released. So you're
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looking at the opportunity with one or two moves in
the Eastern Conference, you can be a contender and be
up there fighting with Cleveland for a top seed just
that fast. So this move, I think is a good spot.
But it's it's a starting point. We've been waiting to
see what the Celtics look like for twenty twenty five.
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It's going to be a completely different roster by time
we're done. Yeah, I mean, and look then that's just
the way it goes, right. It's sad because you think, well,
the Celtics lose, all right, but they just want to not.
But this is how fast windows close last year with
teams right even before last year though, there were a
lot of rumors in conjecture and speculation. All right, you're
just celebrating winning a title, but that they wouldn't bring
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back the core that they had even last year, again
owing to financial constraints. So now you're a year removed
and notatum. Not only do you still have the money
part to work out, you still want to be competitive.
You don't want to just punt. So this is first
downmano to fall. Yeah, I mean, look, sometimes teams are
teams are going to find their way in this offseason,
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the ones dealing with with bad injuries, they're caught halfway
between do we do we just forget it and and
and play for the year after, do we say screw
it and go for it? Do we try to go
somewhere in the middle. And you're talking about the Pacers
are gonna do this, and the Bucks are gonna do this,
and now Celtics are doing it. Like there's teams that's okay.
What are we absolutely know where we are in the draft?
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Isn't a day okay, we don't know. Now we're now
we're already looking ahead. What's the twenty twenty sixth draft
look like? Mm hmm, I mean it's it's uh. It
sometimes gets it gets late early, right, big Yogi better
than gets l and it got late for the Celtics early,
and now this team is gonna be unrecognizable when you
get into next season. Exit out about a Fresca exit
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Swollen down the Jason Smith Show with my best friend
Mike Harmonou.
Speaker 4 (40:49):
Coming up next, we get back into a big shocking.
Speaker 1 (40:51):
Story that just broke a little bit ago about Game
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Speaker 3 (00:37):
Why are you laughing?
Speaker 4 (00:39):
It's just funny.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
I have heard it in a few days because I
heard laugh a few days because it's funny when you
say muto obo and you said.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
Hadn't heard any fake laughed to my stuff?
Speaker 1 (00:47):
I didn't.
Speaker 4 (00:47):
I laughed for real.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
That was fake.
Speaker 4 (00:49):
No, I'll get it fake. Oh go ahead, say something.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
Else, mets you you're so funny.
Speaker 3 (00:56):
Sound of the same.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
Yeah, no, no, no, that was a fake one. Harmony
was the other one was a real one. I'm caught
in a uh time time lapse in time continuum that's
been broken.
Speaker 4 (01:09):
What the hell does that even mean? That's what I'm
trying to say. What does that mean?
Speaker 1 (01:13):
That. That was my response to, I'm not going to
try to guess whether you're laughing or fake. You'd be
a great politician. Well, you're like pious thickness from Uh,
that's exactly right. There's many things, my lord, whether the
truth is among them as yet to why there was
a nonsensical, true politician pious you will be well, I
(01:34):
will say this, no spoiler, no spoiler, no spoiler. But
you know Ray Findes is in twenty eight years later? Yeah, sure,
what he's what he's won that? Well, he's in the movie.
He's been doing a lot of promotion for it. He
said he didn't care. I don't know. He's he's been
in the movie. And the movie takes place in the
(01:54):
United Kingdom. Okay, so we know these things.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
What's next. There's zombies?
Speaker 1 (01:57):
No, no, there's actually it's a no zombie film. They're
Wizardy film. There's no zombies. Okay, yeah, they're they're all unicorns.
What except except all of the horns like are mechanical
and they kill people just by like just putting in.
It's like getting one of those big drills. Yeah, sho
show he is the one that has the Dodger's home
(02:18):
it on you see that? Yeah, and and the and
the actual the screwy thing comes out of the help
long Yeah, no yourself? When is showy Unicorn bobblehead nice?
So again knows again, I promise me no spoilers. But
Ray finds it and he and he has you know,
he speaks with a British accent because it's it's in
the UK, so obviously doesn't need to play someone you know,
(02:39):
from the United States or different places. And every time
he talks, I just keep waiting for him to say, like,
it's definitely a Voldemort kind of vibe that I hanging
in there, and I'm like, Okay, I'm waiting for him
to say something. I did that when I was watching
the menu for the first time in the theater, going
to kill you now, Harry, Yes, he actually plays Valdimore. Yeah, yeah,
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So how do they find the horse Crux? Well, the
thing is it's a zombie horse crucks.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
You said there's no zombies.
Speaker 4 (03:14):
Say I lied. There actually are zombies.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
That's logic than the sentence I gave you no, look
I told you twenty eight years later. Is fun, it's
it's good, it's different, but there are definitely some plotlines.
Speaker 4 (03:27):
I go, oh, okay, I got a question about that.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (03:32):
Oh, I gotta, I gotta, I got a question about that. Okay.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
I saw a movie over the weekend that included stuff
about unicorns too materialists. Oh I thought you're gonna say,
like my little Pony. No, I did not go down
that that well. But yeah, Dakota Johnson and Pedro Pascal
before he becomes the dude from the Fantastic Four. Uh
and uh Captain America christ Evans. No, that sounds to
me like a movie that was they shot like three
(03:56):
years ago and it's just been sitting around. You may
as well as well put it out.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
Why not?
Speaker 1 (04:01):
Good, Let's take advantage of putting a Pedro Pascal movie out,
like a week before the Fantastic Four comes out. Let's
take advantage. Let's dump it right. I just got that field.
Maybe I'm wrong, I just got that sense. It worked
for me, a little bit of a rom com. Kept
waiting for that a twenty four twist. Oh yeah, like
all of a sudden, like you know that the kid
is going to be payman or zombies or you know,
(04:25):
murders dolls or something.
Speaker 4 (04:28):
A kid that shouldn't have chocolate cake, has chocolate cake,
and they gut to go to the hospital.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
Okay, we'll go ahead. Frost for God. Is that where
Ronald Lacuna Junior saves the day and slays the Mets?
You were just a dude. You're like Yankee fans. You're
obsessed with the Mets every single day. You're like more
obsessed with the Mets than I am. I just.
Speaker 4 (04:47):
Ls just keep coming, obsessed with a team that beats
you four out of seven already this year.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
Yeah, but they they set up the rest of the
league and then beat their ass because after that Dodger series,
if they have not been the same, Oh no, no,
well we're still trying to was the end of that
first game of that race series, which but you don't
sound but hurt at all by it. I'm I'm I'm
I'm fine. We're still fifteen sixteen games over five hundred.
It's okay, We're not twelve games under. Then I would say, Okay,
(05:13):
now things are getting really bad, but keep this up.
You're gonna be I will have to say, Hey, how
about Grimace gets out there and throws out the first
bleep and pitch tomorrow?
Speaker 4 (05:20):
Hey, David Stearns. How about that? Huh, how about you
get him back?
Speaker 1 (05:22):
But you know tomorrow is Silver Sluggers Tuesday and Silver
Surfer Tuesday. Is that what it is? No silver sluggers.
Evidently it's a special thing if you're fifty five years
old or older. Oh, it's a ticket package. You had
a cheap breakfast at I hoop? Is that what it
is for the silver slider? It's the Mets. I'd like
one silver slugger. I think the Mets don't have any
silver sluggers. We have lots of players that are good. Okay,
(05:46):
just again, Yankee like, yeah, you're like Fabiano my dad. Oh,
you're just obsessed with the Mets. I don't go to
bed at seven o'clock tomorrow. You get a warning track
salute whatever that means. I think if you bought the
ticket package, I think you get to go on the
warning track and the rest the crowd salute you forget
and reach it fifty five years old, the crowd collapse
when the Mets at the fly ball to the warning
track and then almost out. Yeah, very good sort, And
(06:10):
say Gina played that. So Tyrese Halliburton about twenty minutes
ago put out a very long statement on Twitter regarding
his achilles tear. Uh, gonna miss maybe all of next season,
getting hurt in Game seven. Yes, you're like a big
topic we've been talking about, and uh, he's got a big,
(06:31):
long statement, right. He obviously obviously pays for a Twitter
premium because he puts out like seven paragraphs and it's
a great statement. It's a great thing of how he's
feeling right now, and you know, telling Indiana he's gonna
be back. But this is what I want to focus on,
is what he says. In the end of the first paragraph.
He types out, Man, don't know how to explain it
(06:51):
other than shock. Words cannot express the pain of this letdown.
The frustration is unfathomable. I've worked my whole life to
get to this moment, and this is how it ends.
Makes no sense. Read the next three lines. Now, well, okay,
now that I've gotten surgery, I wish I could count
the number of times people will tell me I'm gonna
come back stronger. What a cliche? Lol, This blank sucks. Okay,
(07:12):
that's pretty good, right, So I guess you don't get
right to it again. And I'm always very cognizant of
when something bad happens to someone to want it to
not just say right away, you'll be fine, everything be fine. No,
I get there. You want to broadbrush and make everything
better right away. But understand that people are going through
stuff and you can't just say, oh, you'll be fine,
you'll be fine. You don't go to a funeral when
someone significant other dies and says, you know you'll love
(07:33):
the single scene. You know who's always had a crush
on you. Let me tell you. You don't do that right
to understand. I know it's awful, and you help people
that way. Don't just write away you'll be fine. It's
been less than twenty four hours and I'm looking at
a year of not playing basketball. And you gotta give
people a chance. You gotta get when bad stuff happens.
Understand that. Yeah, it's just an instinct though. It's just
(07:54):
that immediate reaction, right you talk to someone, job, loss, separation,
whatever it is. Yeah, it's the natural inclinations like it'll
get better. Yeah, I mean, I get and you're trying
to be positive. You mean, well, but you understand, and
you know, I hope people understand. This is just what
they're They don't know what to say, but they want
to wish good things for you, but at some point
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it's like, Hey, I'm in a really low place right now.
Understand that they would like somebody to talk to you
about it and just say hey, not just go hey,
You'll be fine. I'm gonna go get to get a sandwich, Like, Hey,
I understand this is really bad thing, dude, and I
get it. Sandwich can cure at least could really make
you feel better. Yes, how about how about I get
you a sandwiches? No, I'm so sorry about Can I
get you a sandwich? Can I get some? But this
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is a thing, and this is something we have talked
about for a while, and we talked about it a
week ago. So when you heard it today on the
radio or television, you were like, oh, remember we're ahead
of the curve. The latest player to blow is Achilles
this season in the playoffs Tyre's Holibary.
Speaker 5 (08:53):
Right.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
We watch happen a couple other times watch with Jason Tatum.
The NBA playoffs are simply too long, and we've talked
about this because what the playoffs have become is not Hey,
here's a march to the NBA Finals and the two
best teams are playing. It's the two teams that are
playing at a high level and that are healthy. And
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at some point the NBA has got to realize, that's
not a great formula. Man, It's not all the other
sports are. We got the best of the best going
at it. Major League Baseball they find a way to
put a lot of teams and it doesn't take forever
for the playoffs. Best teams play right, hottest teams make
it right. Best teams. Same thing for the NFL. Yes,
injuries happen in the NFL, but generally, hey, the best teams,
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they make it. We're playing our best football the best time.
Our game plan is better. But the NBA has simply
become a war of attrition. It's been we need to
win the series and stay healthy. And every year there
is a first team NBA All Star team where guys
get hurt and get knocked out for the rest of
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the playoffs or part of the next season. It's just
too much. The NBA already he asked too much of
fans to say, hey, come through us with the three
months of playoffs that we have going on, and then
you have the daunting as a fan task of looking
at the NBA Finals and going really, Game one is Sunday,
Game two is Thursday, Game three is Sunday, Game four
(10:18):
is Wednesday. You're telling me it's two and a half
weeks to get from Game one to Game seven, and
that's daunting for a fan. This is why you see
people unplugged and why ratings of the beginnings of the
NBA Finals were so low. It's okay, you're asking me,
it's two and a half weeks. Man, I'll check back
in with you. Okay, I'll check back in we get
closer to the end. So it's enough for fans knowing that, okay,
the playoffs are too long, but for players.
Speaker 4 (10:41):
I don't know how many more years.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
The NBA has got to look at this and say, hey, guys,
just keep getting hurt because it's just too much basketball.
The season is doing eighty two games is too long.
Playing the back to backs is too long. It's too
much basketball. It's too much series. I always said, hey,
best of five series should best of fives, but it's
just too long for players to play at this level.
The court is ninety four feet and the players have
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gotten bigger and stronger and faster, and there's no real
way around that. There's no real rate. They haven't figured
out a way to say, how do we combat this
a little bit? Well, the owners won't say yes because
the players don't want to make less money. But really,
this is just gonna keep happening. It's gonna take a
commissioner with a vision and a visionary which is not
Adam Silver, to say, hey, okay, we got to take
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care of things. We can't have back to backs in
the NBA regular season anymore. We got to play less
regular season games. We gotta play less games in the playoffs.
Like it's not gonna happen, but it's what needs to happen,
or this is just how the players are gonna go
every single year. It's hey, we're at the end and
we won. Why because we were sort of the best team,
but we were absolutely the healthiest and we didn't lose
anybody on the way and because look at why, look
(11:44):
at why the Celtics are gone right, Look they lost
Jason Tatum. Now they were probably probably anyway, but they
lost right other teams you lose guys, big, big players
for lots of times like this is what happens because
it's just too much stress in too long about it's
just too long. It's the short amount of time they
played games in the NBA play it's all of this.
It's four rounds of playoffs, four rounds of games going
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of series going six and seven games, and we're turning rund.
It's just too much, right, And we've said this for
a long time, and we actually spotlighted this a week
and we talked about the injuries. Yeah, well we look
at it on the larger scale, right where we talk
about the breakdown of where revenues are. Well, that requires
the union all to come back and say, well, we
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want less basketball and we're willing to take less money too.
And I think as an entire population of players, you're
probably gonna get enough blowback to where that becomes a
non starter.
Speaker 4 (12:38):
Right.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
It becomes the discussion more we've already done it, and
we mock it, or at least I do roundly the
can a guy get to the sixty five game threshold,
which means they already missed seventeen games, but sixty five
game threshold to win an award? And we lament when
the guys that, oh he got to sixty two and
then he got he missed some time, so he didn't
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get there and things of that nature. So it requires
the meeting of the minds to come to a realization there.
And you know, the best of seven approach has always
been the idea of well, in a seven game series,
the better team the preponderance of evidence is that they're
going to win, and ultimately, if you earn the higher seed,
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you should have that advantage in theory. But maybe it
goes the other way. Maybe you can get folks to
vote the other way. But it also now requires your
seventy six billion dollar TV partners to come on board
this because everybody always wants to put it on the owners.
They could make a little less money. Okay, that's fine,
But in the way this works, it's it's a revenue
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share with the players. Players have to be okay with
taking less if we're something going to shave off ten
games a year or days or games in the playoffs,
because where where does the NBA make its money? When
you get to a game seven, and so people are
paying attention at a much higher level. The ratings were
nearly double what they were for any other game in
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this series because you got to a game seven. When
you get to a winner take all. It's there and yes,
I know obviously you don't have that circumstance pop up
or maybe it would, but but yeah, it's it's now
the get the scientists involved. We've talked about usage rates
a lot, and we talk about the breakneck style of
(14:28):
play that maybe you've got to go back to the
labs and figure out how that all changes out and
what's the sports science part of the next iteration of
what we're doing with the league exit out about a
Fresco exit swollen Dome the Jason Smith Show with my
best friend Mike Krmon. Again, it would need a visionary
leader to come out, and that doesn't happen. But so
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this is what the playoffs are going to be. It's
just can you stay healthy? Right? The Knicks might have
been in the finals last year, but they lost everybody.
All these teams they lose players, and why they're knocked
they came out, that's just that's just a guy that
had a say and man rotation away your visionary I
think of that image of Adam Silver where the crowd's
going insane and it's just him and his yes men
and they're just stowic and the Knicks weren't in the
(15:12):
finals exit that they could have last year, could have
got there, could have got but lustre. Every year teams
just lose these players and it's just going to be
the way the NBA Playoffs goes right. Visionary leader, which
the NBA doesn't have. Coming up next, you want a
big hot take coming off of Game seven, We got
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Speaker 2 (16:25):
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Speaker 1 (16:37):
The Jason Smith Show with my best friend Mike Harmon. Oh,
the Mets must have played today? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (16:44):
It ended, It ended and ended poorly for the Mets.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
Well, I just see online there's a certain highly respected
member of the Mets fan base that's imploring them to
do something really drastic to get things kick started. Can
I guess? Go ahead? McDonald's, well, it's got something to
do with me. You mean me saying get Grimace to
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throw out the first gear. Mets, have Grimace throw out
the ready all caps first freaking pitch tomorrow. What the
hell are you waiting for? Who wrote that? Thank you, Jason.
The fact that you really think they want to win
is hilarious.
Speaker 4 (17:31):
What is that?
Speaker 1 (17:32):
Because or else they would pitch Grimace would be throwing
out the first pitch if you wanted to win. I
mean we did get Tiffany Stratton. That was spectacularly. I
didn't guess who's not throwing out the first pitch tomorrow, Grimace.
Speaker 4 (17:43):
No, maybe now because John Paul Morosi, like did.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
Say he's in Italy. Yeah, okay, but he still knows
David Stearns, and maybe he can get Hey, you know,
international call right now you can make an international call
or an international text.
Speaker 4 (17:55):
You can do that now.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
It's not it's not like it used to be where
some would call and go collect call on paying for this,
hang up the phone. That's too expensive. Not gonna do it.
Not when you're chopping up baseball with the Pope noting
I needed to get one of those Pope cards I
have signed, Maybe the Pope. Maybe I'll get the Pope
to sign one of the one of his hats. You
bring it back and sell it, Yeah, I get I
don't want to sell it. I want it.
Speaker 4 (18:18):
Yeah, I would. I would try to arm a museum.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (18:20):
No, I try to wear it into work at least one.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
Well, you get pizza stuff I've worn into work. We
got pizza all over it, pizza on the Pope. Patten,
you can leave it outside the back door like you're
doing all the rest of the clothes. Sag for Pizza
on the Pope. Pizza on the Pope. That could be
a podcast. It's a Pizza on the Pope podcast. And
the Pope does a podcast where he eats pizza with
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someone who interviews him and he talks about religion. That's
a podcast.
Speaker 4 (18:48):
I'm going to suggests in the Pope the Pope Pizza.
It's a different it's a different company, you know, pizza
in Italy.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
Okay, great, that's like you know, going to Mecca, uh
and everything is, Hey, here's who's bringing the pizza in today,
and it's a twenty minutes they talk about religion, Pope
says whatever you want, maybe talking about the White Sox.
Do you like the pizza, Pizza and the Pope. There
you go, boom. That'd be the biggest podcast in the world. Sure, okay,
I think about that. People how to make pod money
for podcasts. If you want a podcast where it was
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the Pope eating pizza and talking about religion, how many
people would listen to that?
Speaker 4 (19:21):
Millions upon millions and millions. Forget about Joe Rogan people.
You would get fifty million people would listen to that podcast.
Speaker 1 (19:28):
Well, and he's a socks fan, so he's got to
have a bunch of snark to it. He even listened
to that, dare you well? I mean people would guy
the White Soze fast forward, fast forward, fast forward. Okay,
but that means he's going to be snarky and he's
gonna get after it. So yeah, at some point you're
gonna have to bring you know, religion to you know,
bring it to the to the twenty twenty twenties. And okay,
(19:51):
how about the pope doing a podcast? Boom, there you go,
patent pending, patent penning on that idea, just not even
just pizza with the whole pope thing and any who's
John Morosi and and Sternsy for theirs and the Pope. Yes,
you've misidentified yourself as the Pope. I will blind you
in paperwork, my son, go in peace. Wait, what do
(20:13):
you mean, blad, Yes, you'll see. You'll be hearing from
my lawyers. What if he actually thinks that the White
Sox are good? Oh, I think he's gotta know, man,
you yeah, yeah, I think he's got to know. The
guy was at the World Series. There's video of him
at the World Series. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (20:30):
No, I think he knows. I think he knows. I
think I you know what, I think that probably.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
Helped him, you know, because that helps you through a
lot of Hey, the Pope, Hey, the Pope is for
you know, lost causes, right, that's what you know. Hey,
the Pope is for lots of causes. He knows how
to help you through pain, suffering and longing. Yeah, if
he was a Yankees fan, they'd never say said, beat it.
You're not making any Yankee fan, pope. Come on, man,
we don't want to see your pope hat with a
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Yankee logo on the front, because you know that's what happened.
Speaker 4 (20:57):
Forget it. Can't do that.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
Put on a ball with Gena's number on the back,
like like in in h like in the White Chalk.
It's a special commemorative number is on the back, Gita
on the back, Gina, you might not know. I'm pretty
sure he knows. John paulm Rossi is not going to
Italy to interview the Pope unless he knows he's gonna
be able to talk a little bit of baseball with him.
(21:20):
Oh baseball, sure, Yeah, Hey, white Sox, though, Yeah, do
you think like you think like the Pope would pull
one of those uh superstar things, like when uh, like
when we went to uh the Super Bowl a few
years ago and somebody's uh lost up the chocolate factor.
Somebody's PR team said to us, Okay, no questions about
the Heisman trophy, gave us a full sheet Elliott's people.
Speaker 4 (21:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
Oh, I wasn't gonna say it, but you did. Okay, Yeah, no,
it was the most ridiculous. No questions about Urban Meyer,
no questions about the Heisman Trophy. Then then why are
we talking to him?
Speaker 4 (21:52):
Okay?
Speaker 1 (21:53):
Do you think like that?
Speaker 4 (21:54):
You know, John Palmer Rosi goes in and he and
the Pope's pr like the like uh kind of Jordan
Hudson and says, okay, no questions about the White Sox,
no questions about Ryan Storm ride store phownership, no questions
about the Cubs.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
This is going to be strict religion podcast, right. You
even bring up Albert Bell's court back all of a sudden,
I can't ask the Pope any of these questions, I guess. Okay,
remember that was a laminated sheet they put in front
of us. Some questions we could not ask.
Speaker 3 (22:26):
It.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
If I were to tell you, I got a lot
of sign memo for that one.
Speaker 5 (22:31):
It was one of the dumbest things I've foreseen. Signs
of him eating the spoon actually moves like a bobblehead.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
And we did the inn.
Speaker 4 (22:43):
We never aired it because it was like, Okay, we
can't talk about the biggest thing.
Speaker 1 (22:46):
Okay, great, here's all. Here's the five things people would
actually want to hear. I tell you we hear it. No,
we didn't wear it. We did not air it.
Speaker 4 (22:55):
No we heard it.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
No we didn't. Wait wait, do you need to say
that for somebody to keep something or asolutely aired it.
Speaker 4 (23:00):
No, we didn't air it.
Speaker 1 (23:02):
I'm not giving that stuff back. No, we didn't giving
back my head with the spoon on it. I'm not
doing that. But ye, that tattoos bob bobblehead. We were
talking about earlier. What's next? You're gonna have me return
my Sam Donald authentic draft hat. Wait you kept that.
You were supposed to give that to me poster. Now
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it doesn't matter because he's you know, he's on his
fourth team since the Jets, So it's okay, it doesn't
matter if you don't have that. But if it makes
the Hall of Fame, Jason, guess what he doesn't have? Yes,
you know what, I think I'm okay with the possibility
of having to wear that if Sam Darnold goes to
the Pro Football Hall of Fame. And for all you know,
(23:47):
I'm saving it for you, buddy. Oh thanks, wow, for
all I look at that, but all you know, I don't.
I don't think he is though a good line. For
all you know, Well, you know I'm saving it for
you when he goes. Here's your Sam Darkold unless I
don't wear it in good health. But look, you want
a hot take coming off again, we'll get to the
big NBA trade. This went down a few minutes ago
and coming up in a few minutes. But Game seven
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of the Finals, right, Halliburton gets hurt and we spent
a lot talking about it. It's a big shocking story,
and the Pacers have a one point lead at halftime.
Halliburton gets hurt midway through the first quarter, and in
the second half the thunder do enough to win. Right now,
I'm generally not one of those guys it's gonna say,
oh man, if this guy didn't get hurt, everything would
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have been different. Now, if Halliburton didn't get hurt, we'd
beat tonight talking about the Pacers winning the NBA title
and being the most unlikely NBA champion since either the
Pistons in two thousand and four or the Milwaukee Bucks
in nineteen seventy eight. Like we'd be going back talking
about where this ranks as far as most shocking champions
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in a sport, because this game was going the Pacers
way right, and I don't mean it was going the
Pacers way up until Halliburton got hurt.
Speaker 4 (25:03):
For the entire first half.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
Even with Halliburton hurt, they were hitting their threes, they
were moving the basketball. This was one of those games
where the Pacers were getting the thunder to play their way.
And what the Pacers like to do, and we've seen
plenty of times in the playoffs, is they want to
get their third quarter, fourth quarter rotations to the point
where the other teams stars are tired and they're still
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trotting out fresh guys and they're hitting threes who were
guys who were wide open because the other team is
tired and they're not as focused and not as locked
in defensively. This is what the page why the Pacer
were able to come back and win games because their
rotation goes eight to nine deep, right, and Halliburton was
going to be someone that was going to open that
up right in the third and fourth quarter. He's the
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guy that sets up the threes, being as tall as
he is, being able to move in and out of
defenders the way he does, he's so light on his feet.
He's the guy that makes the open shots the Nie
Smith happen, makes the open shots to Matherin have and
so there would they would have been better hitting threes
in the second half, which they couldn't do because they
started off pretty well hit in threes which they couldn't do.
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So the Pacers, I know the game they would have played,
they would have they were getting the Thunder to play
their pace, and honestly, you look at the Thunder, this
was a poorly played Game seven. I can't I don't
know that there's a team that's won a Game seven
in the history of the NBA that's played as poorly
as the Thunder did. They didn't shoot well, they didn't
close out, they didn't find a way to really throw
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the Hammer down. It was just okay. Third quarter, we
stopped the Pacers from hitting their threes were eventually going
to win. But this was a bad game shooting from Halliburton.
It was, you know, you finally had a nice night
from Chad Holmgren. But there's nobody else to write home about,
to say, boy, this guy saved us. It was simply yeah.
The Pacers were reeling without Halliburton, and they did the
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best they could, but eventually they were too hamstrung and
all the Thunder had to do was just not give
it away, and they almost did. Right, This is a
game they should have won by thirty thirty five points.
This should have been Hey, a ten to fifteen point
lead at halftime, a thirty point lead going to the
fourth quarter. And they're all laughing on the bench for
most of it, watching guys come off the bench that
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never play play six seven minutes the end of this game.
But it's not because the Thunder played terribly. They played
poorly in game six, they played poorly in Game seven.
They just didn't they They just happened to play not
as badly and were as hurt as the Pacers not
having Tyres Halliburton. I mean, if you told me before
the game, hey, what what are the final numbers gonna
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look like for the Oklahoma City Thunder in Game seven, right,
you said, be okay, and the numbers are gonna look
like this. They're gonna shoot right around forty from the floor.
Oh okay, they're not gonna hit their threes. SGA is
gonna go eight for twenty five? Is anybody gonna stand out?
Speaker 4 (27:51):
No, you're gonna get ten from Caruso off the bench, Yeah,
Chet Holmburn's gonna be okay. Anything else or anybody else? No,
not really.
Speaker 1 (27:58):
I would say then they're gonna lose. This is we're
gonna lose by ten or fifteen points. Instead they won
by double digits. This was not a great game. They
were bad on Sunday night, but they just happened to be.
Have to outlast the team you're playing agains. You're not
playing another superstar stud a team. You're playing a team
that's minus its second best player and it's emotional leader
and a guy that's become a star in the playoffs,
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and that's a hard thing to come back from if
he doesn't get hurt. We're talking about the Pacers World
Champions battled back to a ten point deficit inside that
final two minutes. But okay, See holds them off to
your point forty percent from the field. I mean one
of the things that Indiana had done all regular season
and certainly during the playoff stretches feasting on turnovers and
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making teams pay by going to pace. Well, they gave
up thirty two points off turnovers in this one. Right,
And while oka See wins the points in the paint
with Chad having a big game, he had disappeared several times.
And much to my sugar In and or two guys
I championed all along, they're champions. And now I'm like,
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but they didn't play well. Right, they got their tunnel,
but it's like I feel less less than satisfied even
though they got to the finish line. Pacers got their big,
big points from McConnell. And I got to imagine anybody
who was a casual observer that came in, you know,
to get it to that sixteen or eighteen million threshold
(29:25):
at the high end for viewing, you're probably cheering for
Matherin and McConnell. Right. Mcconald's like a one man gang. Now,
one thing they couldn't do without Halliburton is like, yeah,
nobody distribute the ball right near right leads with six
right And that's not TJ mcconnald's thing. He is kind
of a drive and dish guy. But he's not someone
that's going or set up with a first pass at
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great entry pass. But he's not someone that's gonna spread
the floor. And because you.
Speaker 4 (29:51):
Don't have to worry about you don't have to roll
defenders to him because it's TJ McConnell.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
And he's just gonna go off to dribble and create
and make his own shot, Like how many times is
he going? He's like, what's he? He made the shot?
All right? He goes in amongst the trees and hits
a layup. This is where you're looking at chet Holm
going what are you doing?
Speaker 4 (30:07):
Man?
Speaker 1 (30:08):
How's that guy scoring the ball on you? On there?
And I thought that the moment after the game, and
I know it was much publicized the way that Tyreus
Halliburton was meeting the teammates and in the embrace he
and McConnell where they they got too close with the
camera and they shoot them away. But just the emotion
of it, and can't just you can't help but feel
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for for that run, and you would have liked to
see it play straight. But I like the fact that
Indiana didn't quit. If anything you saw, OKC might have
been more shell shot at Halliburton's departure than the Pacers were,
because their whole mantra has been next guy up, and
they played with the bench with Matheren, with McConnell coming
(30:52):
up as big as they did at least gave us
to where it was never an easy and comfortable run
for the Thunder as you might i'd have expected it to.
So while you didn't get the runaway victory, they get
the parade exit out about a Fresco exit swollen dome.
Jason Smith Mike Harmon Live from the Fox Sports Radio Studios,
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Speaker 6 (31:25):
Everything is final because the Padres have just lost at
home ten to six to Washington.
Speaker 1 (31:30):
You may recall that at.
Speaker 6 (31:31):
One point Juan Soto was on the Padres and when
they acquired him from Washington three years ago. The Padres
gave the National six players, including pitcher Mackenzie Gore, infielder c. J. Abrams,
and an outfielder who starred tonight in San Diego. James
Wood had three hits, three runs, scored four RBIs for
the Nats, including a home run.
Speaker 1 (31:52):
James Woods the action just one of him.
Speaker 6 (31:56):
He's singular twenty two home runs for Wood sixty one
RBIs in this season. Former Padres draft choice, by the way.
The Angels beat Boston nine to five with four runs
in the bottom of the eighth, but Angel closer Kenley
Jansend left in the ninth inning with an apparent shoulder injury.
Great stat from the Elias Sports folks at the Angels
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tonight are the first team since nineteen ninety one to
use eight of their own first rounders in a game.
Walker Buehler was the Boston starting pitcher. The ex Dodger
allowed five runs in the first, including a couple bases
loaded walks and a bassis loaded hit batter. He lasted
four innings seven walks, did not get a decision. Arizona's
Corbyn Carroll, star outfielder was out again tonight for their
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ten to nothing win at the White Sox. Bruceed hand
has been the problem, they say, missing a fifth straight game.
MLB Network says tonight it's a fractured wrist and he's
due to go on the injured list for the Diamondbacks
and Arizona slugger a Uhenneo Suarez left tonight's game hit
by a pitch on the hand. X rays were negative, however,
He one National League Player of the Week for a
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third time this year. The AL Player of the Week
is the Mariners Col Rally, who homered his thirty second
home run of the season Seattle one at Minnesota eleven
to two. Rally has hit six home runs in his
last six games. Pittsburgh's Nick Gonzalez went five for five
and a five to four win at Milwaukee Saint Louis
over the rival Cubs eight to two, and it was
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Atlanta beating the Mets, Yes three to two the final
in New York. The Mets have lost nine to ten.
The Idol Phillies are first in the NL East, game
and a half over the Mets. The Mets sent luis
An Hillecunya to triple A today joining catcher Francisco Alvarez,
who went to Triple A.
Speaker 1 (33:38):
Yesterday, Baltimore shout.
Speaker 6 (33:39):
Out Texas six to nothing, Jackson Holliday with three hits,
four RBIs os. Infielder Jordan Westbroog still out with a
sprain finger. Pacers guard Tyrese Haliburton had surgery tonight for
his torn achilles. He could miss next season. The Celtics
traded guard Drew Holliday to Portland for Anthony Simons, who
has an expiring contract, and two second rounders WNBA off tonight.
Speaker 4 (34:01):
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Speaker 1 (34:31):
It's never a bad time for Shaboozie Fox Sports Radio.
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So we've had all of like eight hours to celebrate
the Oklahoma City thunder championhip. Congratulations. Now we're talking about
trades and getting ready for the draft and two nights,
two nights Wednesday, starter, Remember two nights because we needed
to have that second night showing of Brownie James.
Speaker 4 (34:53):
Well, he's gonna get drafted again. He's getting drafted again.
That's what's gonna happen.
Speaker 1 (34:57):
So, uh did he up his drafts from last year.
It's gonna go early in the second round. The Celtics
are trading Drew Holliday to the Blazers for Anthony Simons
and two second round picks.
Speaker 4 (35:10):
Shamsterrani are reporting this earlier tonight. Now.
Speaker 1 (35:15):
The plan right now, according to multiple reports, is for
the Blazers to keep Drew Holliday, who's thirty five and
signed that big three year, one hundred and five million
dollar contract with the Celtics, and try to compete in
the West. Okay, great, anytime a franchise it's way off
the beaten path. Hey, we're gonna do this and compete. Awesome.
(35:36):
I want to compete to get back to the ten.
But or try.
Speaker 4 (35:40):
This tells you that and this is tough.
Speaker 1 (35:43):
This tells you that the Celtics have realized we need
to rebuild, not rebuild, not suddenly get rid of everybody,
but we need to retool and rebuild because we're already
spending next season mostly without Jason Tatum. You had the
torn achilles during the series against the Knicks, which seems
like it was like eight months ago, because you know
that's how long the season is. And now they realize, Okay,
(36:07):
we didn't get we won the title, we didn't get
out of the second round, and our best player is
going to be out most of the year. Why are
we paying Drew Holliday this kind of money?
Speaker 6 (36:17):
Right?
Speaker 4 (36:17):
So, which again, uh, you know, this is the Celtics saying,
all right, is it really worth it to keep Drew
Holliday around? We don't know if we're.
Speaker 1 (36:27):
Gonna even be a title contender next year. Then we're
getting to another year. No, let's go get some offense
and every Simons could play a little bit, right, scores
twenty a game, he's a twenty a game, he's ten
years younger, he's a thirty point shooter, all that, and
it gets done, and it gets them almost twenty million
dollars under that second apron. Yeah, and look and the
Blazers were actually pretty good down down the stretch last
(36:50):
half of the year. They played much better, so I again,
and they have a young core, so I understand what's
going on there. But the Celtics, really, okay, this is
the begin You're gonna see some moves. I'll be surprised
if you saw Porzingis getting moved. And you're gonna see
some other things happening this offseason because the Celtics, okay,
it's time to We won, right, we won the title,
(37:10):
but now things happened, and Tatum getting hurt is gonna
be the domino that starts all of this. So now
this isn't the first trade you're gonna see. You're gonna
see the Celtics try to get younger. They're not gonna
be able to keep all of their guys. How are
we gonna compete? We need some off we need we
have a whole in our offense right now without Jason Tatum.
So here Simon's in theory to come in and pick
up some of that slot.
Speaker 3 (37:30):
Right.
Speaker 1 (37:31):
The best thing to do, hey, when you're missing offense,
bringing a shooting guard, a small forward, and that's what
you have. So this is gonna be This is a
good move for the Celtics. I really like it. I
mean I like it more for the Celtics, honestly than
I do for the Blazers, even though the Blazers are
going to hey, maybe we're gonna try to win now
a little bit. But for the Celtics, it's okay. We
got rid of a big contract, we got younger, we
(37:51):
got some offense. We've got a guy that's gonna hit
some threes. So yeah, I mean, this is a really
good move for the Celtics. But this is also what
you have come to enjoy and love about the Celtics
the last couple of years, This big championship corps. This
is now getting broken up well, and you're also looking
at a retool on the fly, Leaner, meaner, younger, take
(38:13):
some of the high salary out. If you get rid
of Porzingis, bring back a couple of bodies, go back
to you know, a deeper rotation. The East is a mess.
We've talked about it a lot, right Orlando, retooling a
bit and bringing in Desmond Baine is actually a big
winning move potentially right now. As we talked about go
find the podcast, as we broke down that deal when
(38:36):
he showed up in Orlando because of all the injuries
and all the uncertainty from your would be contenders, even
your Nicks, what the next iteration of their squad looks like.
Still waiting on a coach, Still still waiting on a coach.
But there are right now one of the favorites to
win the NBA title in early odds released. So you're
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looking at the opportunity with one or two moves in
the Eastern Conference, you can be a contender and be
up there fighting with Cleveland for a top seed just
that fast. So this move, I think is a good spot.
But it's it's a starting point. We've been waiting to
see what the Celtics look like for twenty twenty five.
(39:17):
It's going to be a completely different roster by time
we're done. Yeah, I mean, and look then that's just
the way it goes, right. It's sad because you think, well,
the Celtics lose, all right, but they just want to not.
But this is how fast windows close last year with
teams right even before last year though, there were a
lot of rumors in conjecture and speculation. All right, you're
just celebrating winning a title, but that they wouldn't bring
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back the core that they had even last year, again
owing to financial constraints. So now you're a year removed
and notatum. Not only do you still have the money
part to work out, you still want to be competitive.
You don't want to just punt. So this is first
downmano to fall. Yeah, I mean, look, sometimes teams are
teams are going to find their way in this offseason,
(40:01):
the ones dealing with with bad injuries, they're caught halfway
between do we do we just forget it and and
and play for the year after, do we say screw
it and go for it? Do we try to go
somewhere in the middle. And you're talking about the Pacers
are gonna do this, and the Bucks are gonna do this,
and now Celtics are doing it. Like there's teams that's okay.
What are we absolutely know where we are in the draft?
(40:23):
Isn't a day okay, we don't know. Now we're now
we're already looking ahead. What's the twenty twenty sixth draft
look like? Mm hmm, I mean it's it's uh. It
sometimes gets it gets late early, right, big Yogi better
than gets l and it got late for the Celtics early,
and now this team is gonna be unrecognizable when you
get into next season. Exit out about a Fresca exit
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Mike Harmonou.
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Speaker 1 (40:51):
Story that just broke a little bit ago about Game
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