July 17, 2025 • 40 mins
FS1 & Barstool? Shane Gillis jokes on ESPN? July 16th, 2025. An absolute watershed day in sports. B/C it's the day 'new media content' was fully embraced by the mainstream.
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a no hobo week. No ho was a no hobo week,
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Why I kept sending you stories just like it was
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Of course every day I woke up saying, harmon, you're
on vacation. Stop sending me stories. You're on But they
were good stories off for dad, they were good stories.
They were good stories. Now look, now this is a look.
There's still sporting events tonight, right. The Open Championship I
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think begins in what like a half hour, right hour
and a half. We're gonna we get to start. Oh,
I am I an hour off? I think was what
I was hearing. My scooting time is off a little bit,
a little bit. It's a little bit off of.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
You didn't wear a kilty Maybe tomorrow I willka Thursday.
Uh so we have the Open Championship starting, we have
big nw NB a night tonight.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
Uh sure, But you didn't think today was gonna be
a watershed day in sports, But it is because of
two big stories, one breaking over the course of the
night tonight, one from earlier. Today. We could look, we
could wind up looking back at today saying, hey, what
(02:54):
was the day where the new media and the new
way we consume cover sports? When was that embraced as
a general acceptance? Right? When did the new media go
from well, I'm fighting with the old media, and I
mean new media where you have look, the players are
(03:14):
doing their own thing. Now you have lots of podcasters
and and and different sorts of content produced by non
traditional media outlets Fox, ESPN, everything else. It's been a
big battle the last few years new media, old media.
What was the day the new media finally broke through
into the mainstream. We're gonna look back at today, Okay,
(03:35):
Number one. The story earlier today right Fox Sports One
is making big changing into all their programming morning programming.
They're reportedly replacing the shows that they canceled with some
sort of agreement with Barstool Sports, and Dave Portnoy would
be involved, potentially would be on the college football shows
and some other some of their existing shows that that
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have big audiences would be would be put on FS one. Now,
the big nude kickoff, that's our idea. So that's the
whole thing. When you say big nude kickoff, that's our idea.
You got to you gotta pass money if you want
to say big nude kickoff. That's our thing, big dude kickoff.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
So that's a that's a big watershed day because this
is here's new media of barstool where suddenly, hey, it
didn't work a few years ago with ESPN simply because
the timing wasn't right right. The way Barstool does sports
is not the way that we are accustomed to it.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
It's a younger audience, clearly, and is it quite the
protect the shield element that traditional sports outlets want and desire.
Probably not. I didn't when that happened. I'm like, there's
no way, the barstool Sports of an ESPN is gonn.
Last they're gonna say, what are we putting on? This
is this is not our programming, right, this is not
what Disney ESPN does. So of course it lasted what
(04:51):
like a day or a week before they said, okay,
we have to get rid of this. We can have
this programming on. But now years have gone by and
the barstool way of covering sports it has become more popular.
It's become more accepted as a way that people consume sports.
So now suddenly revisiting, hey, making barstool part of your brand? Okay, right,
people have seen it now, they understand what the content is.
(05:13):
It's not as much of a wildcard as it was
a few years ago. So traditional media outlets like here's Fox,
traditional media outlet that could potentially be putting being in
partnership basically with barstool Sports, which has also.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
Had an edge forever though, right, I mean that was
the branding initially married with children and the Simpsons and
whatever else that it was always a little bit, you know,
off the normal pathway. So this is all these years later,
just a different extension. But O was to you know,
some of the changes that have gone on in media.
What is that five years ago?
Speaker 1 (05:46):
Yeah, yeah, four five years I think it was right
before around COVID. Yeah, right before the pandemic. I got
things when it happened. And so this is a big day, right,
all of a sudden, Well, barstool Sports and Fox like that.
That's this the whole thing, right, this is Fox if
they you know, this thing goes through changing the way
they present sports, changing the audience. Like clearly they're doing that. Okay,
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they see what ESPN is doing with Pat McAfee, and
they're saying, all right, we're going after the younger demographic.
The younger demographic is more forgiving of a lot of things.
They want content that's more edgy, they want they want
something that's different from what they have seen, which for
the past few years has been here a bunch of
athletes arguing with each other and who has the bigger
hot take? And I love a hot take more than
anybody else. But you can't just continually throw hot takes
(06:30):
because they lose their they lose their gravitas. So this
has been the way things have gone the last years.
And now this could be Fox saying, hey, and I
understand it, and I think it's a it's a smart
thing to say, we went this angle. We see the
growth in a different area, and the growth is younger audience,
more edgy content, however you want to describe it. So
this is a big name. Now here's Barstool getting in
(06:51):
potentially getting in with Fox. And now you have ESPN.
And what we saw on the SP's earlier tonight from
host Shane Gillis, who yes, has ESPN kind of towed
the line in previous years with some jokes that you go, ooh,
that's not quite a Disney ESPN type joke on the SPE's.
But okay, comedians want to go on and do their thing,
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and they have and they have their their style, and
ESPN doesn't want to jump on there on their backs
too much and say, okay, don't do this, don't do this,
don't do this. But clearly ESPN is a brand. Disney
is a brand they want to protect, right, Disney is
Little Mermaid and Cars and Incanto and all of these
different movies. This is the brand they want to Now,
maybe ESPN gets spun off, if Disney winds up selling ESPN,
(07:36):
that could happen, But this is the Disney This is
the ESPN brand that has been around for the last
thirty some odd years since Sports Center broke through in
the late eighties early nineties. And now tonight you have
Shane Gillis and the jokes that he did on the
s pi's doing Jeffrey Epstein jokes, doing jokes with racial
tinges to it, involving Caitlin Clark. He's doing he did
(07:59):
the Jay Simpson joke again, the old nor McDonald line,
you know, with with Travis Hunter, some of the stuff
he did. I'm saying, oh my good, this is not
ESPN's brand. This is not This is stuff that if
Ricky Gervais or they wanted to do this on the oscars,
they would say, hey, you know what to risque for
us man not doing it, not doing it. We can't,
we can't do these jokes. And I mean I have
(08:21):
not seen I am blown away that this is the
content that ESPN had, not by the content itself. Seeing
Shane Gillis do is then you know how he's liking.
You've seen jokes like this all over the internet. Nothing
here is so unbelievably new, But the fact that ESPN
is embracing this and this is part of their turn
away from where they were to Hey, we're hiring Pat
(08:43):
McAfee to come on now, and the network is all
Pat McAfee and steven A. Smith. We have gone away
from our coverage of sports being what is going to
separate us the worldwide leader too. Here's a guy that
just throws out hot takes in his board with what
he does, but still we're gonna give him one hundred
million dollars. Here's Pat McAfee, who are going to put
on every single show because he's gonna get us to
(09:04):
a new audience. And Pat McFee show's got cursing on it.
It's got edgy content, and he fights on social media,
and he fights with people who are are executives at ESPN.
The guys losing their jobs after you fight with Pat
McAfee on it. This is like ESPN. This is like
them being anakin. It's like them going suddenly, hey, we're
going completely to the dark side with where we were.
(09:25):
And so you have that that tide that's been coming
in to shore little by little with McAfee and steven
A and the content, and now here you have it.
It's hitting the shore tonight. With the content that Shane
Gillis put out there for ESPN. I mean, I'm blown
away that these kind of jokes you can find him
out there, you know, you can find out that these
(09:46):
are the jokes and this is the content that ESPN.
Speaker 3 (09:49):
Put on the spis. I don't know if there's gonna
be any blowback. I don't know what it's gonna be,
but the fact that this got out there and it
continued to get out there, this it really just blew
me away that this was kind of the content that
we saw tonight from a Disney company.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
SGA is here, give it up for.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
SCA Hell yeah, bro, And now everybody's sitting around him
is in foul trouble.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
All right, that's every time's nice. That's a great clean
and tame and whatever. That's what I was comfortable playing
on the show. Some of the other stuff is like ooh,
I mean, like, I mean, he's doing Jeffrey Epstein jokes.
He's doing racial jokes with Kton Clark. It's like, oh
my god, Like, this is not ESPN. This is not
the ESPN I grew up, And it's not the ESPN
I worked for. It's not the ESPN. The Trey Wingo
probably worked for before you got let go a couple
(10:35):
of years.
Speaker 3 (10:36):
But that's the thing, right, We've seen the shift and climate,
and we talk about it a little bit and now
and again on the show and certainly in our off
air conversations about you know, where we're at in terms
of content and the lines that have been redrawn. Twenty nineteen,
Shane Gillis was fired from Saturday Night Live for you know,
(10:57):
comments and what was deemed in a appropriate you know,
the old canceling line being used. And then this last
year he was back to host it right. Five years,
a lot of things changed, a lot of what was
truly under scrutiny. Time and again, comedians are back doing
their thing right and be getting all of their their
(11:20):
hour long specials on Twitter and their voices. It's not
just in the club, it's back and social media. And
that's what McAfee's show has done a good job. And
that's what Barstool, their whole brand was about, you know,
not just going to their website, No, they were dominating
in social media off little clips much like your late
(11:40):
night talk show are now right, they do the clips
before the thing even airs. Here's the three things you're
gonna know and want to see, So let's give it
to you long before it's actually airing, and it's a
normal spot. So the evolution of this and now you've
got proof of concept with the McAfee show, of the
audience built, the revenue that flows in. Look at the
contract that he was able to sign, the power that
(12:03):
he wields, part of the WWE universe as well, So
you've got that, you know, partnership through him that rolls
through so for portantly in barstool with Fox. If this
does come to fruition, it's a natural extension. You go
head to head in that same space, and a lot
of the loyalists there will be gravitating to the airwaves
(12:24):
at FS one and all of the social media channels
that flow from there. Right, I'm sure there'll be some
negotiated exclusives for the FS one platform versus THEIRS that
you know is available later on, you know, kind of
like they do now. But if I go to Disney
Plus right now, I can watch all sorts of horror
movies are fed to me at the same time. Hey,
(12:45):
would you like to see the latest iteration of cars right?
Speaker 1 (12:51):
Or the Bear or whatever?
Speaker 3 (12:52):
Else, right, because you've got a whole suite of networks
that are under there. Right, you got your Disney, Pixar, Marvel,
Star Wars, then you get National g A Graphic, then
you get Hulu and ESPN all in that process. And
it's not a commercial. It's just saying you've got a
breadth of content, which is not necessarily the content you
want your six year old finding and being fed if
(13:13):
they go into a non locked.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
Part of the account.
Speaker 3 (13:17):
So it's already there, they're already doing it and realizing
that it's it's good for business, and as more and
more stuff gravitates from traditional cable through the streaming services,
et cetera, that you're gonna see more of it.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
Yeah. Look this that's why it's such a big day
because look, the Anakin move by ESPN has been coming slowly.
Lose the Padawan. Here's a h ESPN two is the Padawan?
Oh ESPN two. Yeah, you still want because because gone
to the days of boy. I want to turn on
ESPN two at nine o'clock and watch NFL Films Presents
right for the next three hours. I'm not gonna get
(13:51):
the I'm not gonna get Hey, the one in fifteen
season by the Jets, they are taking flights getting ready
for next year. Haking flight. Well, that's so many times
they use that, everybody, there's only there's only two. It's
taking well, there's three. Sorry, there's three NFL films. There's
taking flight, which is every team that didn't go to
the super Bowl, okay, okay, that didn't win the super
Bowl taking flight. There's called the Glory the team that
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won the super Bowl for the first time. And then
there's return to glory if you won the super Bowl
for a repeat time in your franchise career. So taking flight,
every team that didn't win the super Bowl, call the
glory first time you win, return to glory if you
won already. That's it. Three titles here.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
We get to go back into an episode of The
Simpsons and then you say it's play taking care of business,
but we just did that one play taking over top.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
This is a watershed day when you look at the
two biggest sports media companies ESPN and Fox saying hey,
we are embracing the new style, the new way things
are going. And this is the official day where it's
gone from we're fighting, we're fighting, We're fighting to Okay,
we've met. We're part of the mainstream. Now it's big.
Speaker 3 (14:57):
Day, man changing Big day like Anita sandwich, happens a
day after the day after the all start.
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Speaker 1 (16:05):
Fox Sports Radio, The Jason Smith Show with my best
friend Mike Harmon. So we'll get to the high profile
NBA story in a second. But I got to tell
you this because I because I just got this. It
does not involved Lebron James, but we will have stuff
on Lebron James coming up about a half hour. But
so I just got a text from my wife and
you know, she does trivia on Wednesday nights. And oh,
(16:27):
by the way, we won on Sunday again. We're is
she mad at you from yesterday or from yesterday? No, no,
she's not mad at me. Yesterday she said, I said
I picked you over Halle Berry maybe three seconds say
that I did not? I did right away. It was
like within one second. No, no, that's stop watch. You
had a bunch of wide receivers run there forty n No,
no it suns. Stop making things up right, It didn't happen.
(16:49):
Did Jamaicans put up three touchdowns from the time that
you took care? So you know, Wednesday night she does
trivia and I always say, hey, you know, text me
when you get a good sports question, so we can
do it on the show. And we do that. We
get really good questions. I got it.
Speaker 3 (17:04):
Oh, I got a great entertainment two questions from tonight, right,
I've got a great one. But the first one is this,
she said, you're not going to believe. The last question
was a sports question. The last one, last question question.
We got it right. But we came in sixth. And
this is out of like twenty teams. Like it's a
big it's a big Wednesday Night. There's tons of teams.
(17:24):
So here's the question, you guys ready, So we start
working Sunday through Tuesday and then Thursday and Friday, so
we can go on.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
Wednesdays or Wednesday night. The questions aren't as fun as
they are on Sunday. Like Sundays is that we do trivia.
Speaker 3 (17:38):
It's more like there's more entertainment, movie, TV presidents, landmarks
like you know, like tonight, it's questions like what's the
first letter and the first word in the Scrabble dictionary.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
That's also another and it's like, okay, so it's a
lot hard. It's it's not as fun, but here's your question, right,
and you started putting an L up in front of here.
What fell? Team changed its nickname in nineteen sixty three,
only to see another team adopt that nickname over thirty
years later. Thirty years later, what team changed its nickname
(18:13):
in nineteen sixty three, only to see another team adopt
that nickname thirty years later. Saint Louis Arizona Cardinals. No, no, no,
let me know. You guys need a hint. So sixty three.
Oh the Texans.
Speaker 5 (18:33):
No, that was definitely my guess. I just knew the hormones, right, Texans. No,
you may be getting you might be getting there. Let
me know, you guys need a hint. You guys want
to hint.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
Cardinals, as my wife said to me, thank god I
was married. I married to you because right away I said,
you better have gotten this right. But the Jets went
from the Titans to the Jets, and the Titans went
from the Tennessee Oilers to the Titans. I said, the
Jets is the final. This is our year.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
We're going to the super.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
Bowl because it's a final.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
Gues.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
Yes, somebody only got them to a sixth place finish. Yeah,
I know, but they apparently vaulted a lot of teams
because they got the Jets. But I'm like, boy, if
you just heightened Jets had been better on that, you
might have been in like third or second play. Maybe
you would have won. Maybe you would have won. Didn't that, Yeah,
maybe it would have won. I gotta go back and
study my moves again.
Speaker 5 (19:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
Yeah. So they said, right, it's a change your nickname.
In nineteen sixty two, I'm like, oh, the Jets, Oh
yeah it is yeah, the Jets. Yeah, they were the
Titans of the Tennessee Titans. The Titans, we are the Titans.
Come on, wow, the Jets of the fighting. Do you
know why they were named the Jets? They were named that,
they were named the why the they won? Why they
were why they were named the Jets? It was what
(19:48):
he called it was uh not a not a contest,
but a uh what do you call it? They wanted
to know it. It was a they had a whole thing,
like a voting.
Speaker 3 (19:57):
Fit thing with the guy in the place. Oh wait,
they don't even know No, wait wait wait, wait, no,
I think Frostburg has a joke. Hang on, okay, why
why were the Jets? Why are they named the Jets?
Speaker 1 (20:08):
Because they played at Shay Stadium, their LaGuardia Airport. Oh yeah,
and then over all the time. No, they wanted something
that was in the city. No, they want they wanted
something indicative of the city, and and I thought the
Jets was a good nickname, but I thought it was
they put it out there to uh, the fans like
and and vote for what the finalists were say. Hang
(20:30):
On fans mostly do to where they played New York
to nickname, hang On fans vote New York did sick name?
Hang on? Uh hang in hands in enhances. Yeah, I
got to have that, Jack Bauer PDA. Uh. Yeah, it
was something close to that, like they they put oh,
they didn't put it out to the They didn't put
(20:50):
it out to fans. They put it out to people
who wanted to were in the some kind of decision
committee of deciding what they wanted the nickname to be.
So something like that. Yeah, okay, Jets, Jets. There you go.
That was one of my close hats I ever owned.
Was my the Titans of New York cabin.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
It's good.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
The guy looking like a vampire, like he's leaping in
the air, you know, running with a fluid.
Speaker 3 (21:12):
He was the original karate kid. It does look very
karate cadesque. It does look very karate as it does
that cheat and move that that guy got over.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
The final question that Jeopardy is about the Jets. How
about that we're going to Super Bowl? Justin Field is
getting us to the super Bowl. Now, that's what it is.
I would love to see that some rookie cards. Uh. So,
today in the NBA, I gotta say, I'm a little
shocked by the reaction to the Bradley Beal move to Clippers. Okay, Bradley,
(21:47):
Bradley Beal, I know, right, not to be confused with
our buddy Larry Bee Larry be So, Bradley Beal gets
bought out by the Suns, which we knew was coming,
and immediately agreed right away to join the Clippers. Okay,
all right, happens right away? Want to go join the Clippers?
All right? Bradley Beil's a nice player. You know, it's
(22:07):
seventeen a game guy, three time All Star. But the
number of this is up. This is an NBA championship
caliber move that I've seen over the course of the day.
It's just insane.
Speaker 3 (22:21):
Well, I mean, if you're putting it on a very
long list of building blocks, and you know, there's the
great South Park episode where you have the underpants gnomes
and they talk about their pyramid of success sure, number one,
steal underpants, number two, question.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
Mark number three. Profit. That's kind of what we're at here.
Speaker 3 (22:39):
There's a giant question mark box as to how you
get to that title, you know, in the Western Conference.
But this could be one of the little boxes along
the way. Yeah, no, it could be one of the drawers.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
Look look, let me just look, man, look, man, look,
let me tell you about this. We're talking about new media.
Now you're going look look, mad I think my favorite
Tony Bruno quote of ever was I've been in this
business for thirty years. I'm an overnight star at fifty five.
Come on, man, uh but look, Bradley Beal is a
nice player. Okay. He was supposed to help lead the Suns,
(23:12):
didn't lead them anywhere, right, He was a nice player
with the Wizards, didn't get anywhere. Okay, all of a sudden,
he's not gonna go to the Clipper. He's not gonna
be He's not a guy that puts a team over
the top. KD is not an over the top guy.
But I get why the Rockets went after him, because, hey,
they need someone to make shots down the stretch of games.
I understand that Katie's gonna take these shots. I get it.
(23:33):
Bradley Beal is not an over the top guy, but
you would think today. I know, we're starved for NBA
trades and Lebron and everything else in Karl Anthony Townsend.
The Knick's gonna make a trade. What's gonna happen. I
get that we're star for that, news man, I understand,
But Bradley Beal, he's a little bit in an upgrade
of just a guy. All right, he's the Clippers. First
(23:54):
of all, I'll tell you exactly how the Clipper season
is gonna end. Oh okay, every year since balmber bought
the team has ended. They're gonna win forty five ish games,
and they're gonna lose in the first round of the playoffs.
Because this happens when you decide to build around guys
who are fifty five years old. You whoa, whoa, whoa.
Now they're accelerating an age, but not like dogs. But
(24:17):
you're built around bound stars who were thirty five years old,
and you went out and signed guys. Hey, what are
we gonna do with Framesy, We're gonna go get guys
who are thirty five and older. You don't win that way.
You don't. I don't understand, Kawhi Leonard. It's done, all right,
James Harden, it's done. These guys are good players in
the regular season as long as they're healthy, and as
they get older, you worry about their health. But you
(24:38):
get to the playoffs, you're overmatched by younger teams. The
Lakers got to the playoffs. They were overmatched by a
younger team. All nobody that's that's fronted by by stars
who are in their mid thirties goes and wins anything. Right,
this is how the Clippers here. They'll be a nice team,
they'll win forty five ish games as long as these
guys are healthy. But they'll get to the first round
(24:58):
of the playoffs and they'll go home because James Harden
will be tired by the time we get to the
later round, getting games in the first round of the playoffs,
and Kawhi Leonard will be tired. And this is what happens, right,
This is how every year ends. It's Bill Murray with
the Sledgehimer breaking the clock in Groundhog Day. Every day,
when I Got You, Babe comes on d every single day.
(25:19):
This is what the Clippers do. What they needed to
do was all right, coming off the Sterling era, I
get that. Hey, if you're telling me we can win
forty five games a year and be out in the
first round of the playoffs, every Clipper fan Steve bought
they would take that in a second. All right, great, hey,
we need that man. We need to get to a
new normal here. But this is now eight years of
the same thing, and it's going and it's going to
(25:42):
bat relying on the same players who now are no
longer twenty seven to twenty eight years old, but they're
thirty five and thirty six. You're not gonna win this way, right,
And Bradley Beal's gonna be thirty three and he's had
declining statistics. Yes, three time All Star Bradley Beal sounds great.
You're not getting that guy. You're not getting Bradley Beal
of five six eight years ago. And oh, by the way,
the Bradley Beal of five seven, eight years ago didn't
(26:03):
lead anybody anywhere.
Speaker 3 (26:05):
He's a it's a nice move. He wouldn't have put
the Lakers over the top. He wouldn't put anybody else
over the top. It's oh, hey, you got a guy
that can play a little bit, and maybe stay healthy
and score fifteen or sixteen off to fifteen off the
bench is probably what he's gonna wind up doing this year.
Speaker 1 (26:18):
All right, that's great. This is not over the top,
and the Clippers need to break the cycle and say
we're a destination now too. We have our own place. Hey,
we tried with Kawhi, and I feel like Kawhi's but
on the team now is his entire career, Like we've
just stricken his championships with the Spurs and the Raptors
out of the record books, because no, he's been with
the Clippers now forever.
Speaker 3 (26:37):
Right, one, did you win those titles? I was back
in the nineties. Yeah, Vince Carter with with it with
the Raptors, it was great. And then him and David
Robinson they were great one to two punch back in
nineteen eighty seven. Like they've tried, it hasn't worked. But
instead of saying, all right, we need to do something different,
build ourselves around younger stars.
Speaker 1 (26:52):
No, no, no, let's keep going with Kawhi. Let's give
James Harden more money. When this is how the season ends,
how was it gonna get any better?
Speaker 3 (26:59):
It's doing the same thing over and over again twenty
nineteen was that title with the Raptors.
Speaker 1 (27:04):
So ponder that. For as long as it's.
Speaker 3 (27:06):
Been street Lights over Spotlights were old enough to remember
those billboards and the coming attractions of battling for La
Supremacy with the Lakers and Lebron James coming to town
at that point. So I'm thinking, as you're talking about that,
the breath of things that we've experienced on air together
(27:28):
here at Fox Bords Radio, because remember the Donald Sterling
stuff started creeping out while we were on air all
those years ago. So what you have is a conversion
and convergence of these guys to where their deals are
all up. End of twenty six twenty seven, the only
guy there Zubatching. I think there's like one other guy
(27:49):
that would have a minimal contract so you can clear
the decks. We were talking with Mark Weiss about the
how does he get the second year option, Like, well,
here's eleven million dollars. If you stink we're on on
the hook for five point five million, we cut you.
We're not getting murdered on the cap if you play, well, yeah,
you go and play somewhere else for a lot more money.
Speaker 1 (28:08):
Have at it.
Speaker 3 (28:09):
But we won because that means you played well for
us this year, right, and we got you out of
bargain while Phoenix continues to pay you nineteen point two
million dollars. That's the greatest heiston at this thing by
you know, buy out was only thirteen million dollars against
one hundred and eleven million. He gets to keep the
rest good for him. So all of that to say,
(28:32):
as you go through the process, for Beal doesn't have
to be a world beater. He was in situations to
where I would argue how much did he really care?
After a while, certainly in Washington, Yeah, what we were
spinning our wheels.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
Even in the Eastern Conference. We suck.
Speaker 3 (28:49):
So take the money, put up some stats, play whatever
games you are as long as you're healthy, and go.
In Phoenix, it was clear very early on last year
they didn't like each other. Yeah, they didn't like their situation,
but nobody wanted to be the guy to pull the
plug on it. Devin Booker's going to be the guy
to stay. Kevin Durant didn't want to move. We get
that report during Yeah, could have gone at the deadline.
(29:12):
There are a bunch of potential suitors. I just didn't
want to move, and bal was like, the hell with you.
I'm with the Lebron James. I want the two guys
that has a no trade clause.
Speaker 1 (29:20):
I like that.
Speaker 3 (29:20):
That is the article and every talking point is he
won't wave his no trade clause. Look at the cloud
I have and now you have this opportunity to go
to the Clippers and be part of this with between
him and brook Lopez. They paid nothing for two guys
that'll be good rotational guys, third, fourth superstar. He didn't
(29:41):
have to be the guy. That's the other thing for
beal right, as much as it was Booker and Durant,
and he was the third guy of a big three.
I haven't talked about those in a while now. He
was still expected to play and play. Well here's He's
just a guy on a five point five million dollars deal,
so anything he does is a bonus at this point.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
I mean, look, I understand, Hey, we're starved for you.
The NBA we want. We've been told that all these
trades are gonna happen. We haven't gotten Eddy Bradley, not
over the top. And you're still in the West and
I've just told you how the Clipper season is going
to end. So there you go. You know, you know,
don't you need to go to the games. You just
got Okay, I told you, I told you I was
gonna end.
Speaker 3 (30:20):
You just gotta have a giant board where you mark
off like like days in prison.
Speaker 1 (30:25):
I got it, got there, forty seven wins. See, I
told you, And the Jets were the final answer. And
how about that? Huh well, really it was the Titans.
Well ture, it was, but it was a Jets franchise.
It was a Jets franchise. Uh time that. To find
out what's trending in the wide world of sports, Martin
White Sweaty got for us my friend.
Speaker 5 (30:42):
Free agent defensive end Von Miller will join the Commanders
on a reported one year deal. Posted a picture of
Champ Bailey in a Washington uniform on his Instagram page,
and Adam Schefter said it'll be a one year deal.
And the conversation still getting figured out. And the Major
League Baseball All Star Game drew seven point two million
viewers on Fox.
Speaker 1 (31:00):
Three.
Speaker 5 (31:00):
Time NBA All Star Bradley Beal, you guys just been
talking about it, got a two year, eleven million dollars
deal with the Clippers with a player option, so if
he plays really well, he doesn't have to stay. He
plays poorly, he gets five five more million after a
contract bile with the Suns in which he gave back
approximately what thirteen million dollars or one hundred something he
(31:22):
had coming tell you what? Bradley beal legend at the
Bank Spurs shutting down Dylan Harper for the remainder of
Summer League. Second overall pick WNBA News Fever beat the
Liberty ninety eight to seventy seven, Brown and Stewart with
a twenty four point eleven rebound double double. Fever ruled
out Kate le'clock before the game started. She has right
groin pain after the loss.
Speaker 1 (31:43):
After leaving.
Speaker 5 (31:43):
In the win to the Connecticut Sun just two days ago,
Asian Wilson had a thirty seven point ten rebound double
double as the Aces beat the Wings ninety to eighty six,
Dream beat the sky Links over the Mercury, and the
Storm beat the Valkyrites to round out the w action.
In the NFL, the Broncos have signed the first round
pick cornerback John A. Baron to his rookie deal, leaving
(32:05):
the Bengals seventeenth overall pick. Famar Stewart is the only
unsigned first round pick from aprils draft. Forty nine or
second round pick just reached in agreement on a four year,
ten point three million dollar deal with includes nine million
dollars guaranteed. Before now, only one second round pick had
been signed prior. It was a big point of contention
(32:26):
about the contracts. Now this second round pick for the
forty nine ers will have Alfred Collins the second round,
picking up forty third pick in the draft. We love
about eighty percent of his eighty eight percent, I should say.
Speaker 1 (32:38):
Of his deal guaranteed. That was a big stipulation.
Speaker 5 (32:41):
Thirty of thirty two second round picks remain unsigned at
this moment as we are just a couple of days
weeks away from training camp. Speaking of, Naji Harris will
likely begin Chargers training camp on the football non football
injury list after sustaining an eye injury during a fourth
of July firework accident.
Speaker 1 (32:58):
Back to you guys, thanks a bunch of dub Jason
Smith Mike Harmon live from the Fox Sports Radio Studios.
Coming up next, some big numbers are in from the
MLB All Star Game. Wait'll we tell you that's next Jason.
Speaker 2 (33:14):
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Speaker 1 (33:23):
Sports Radio The Jason Smith Show with My best friend
Mike Harmon. Damn. So, the ratings for last night's All
Star Game are in three point eight seven point two
million viewers. Now, this is down from last year's All
Star Game, is still the highest rated of all the
(33:44):
All Star games, which which it should be Chase Ball
has been that one, and it is not down so
much over what last year's was. But you know, you're
talking about seven point two million people watching a watching
an All Star game where you know, you're just you're
just seeing more stories about outlook, Baseball is losing viewers Baseball.
(34:06):
When when I see this, I understand and and I'm
not gonna sit here and like this is one of
those stories where I can't say, well, but you know,
people who are watching on other ways, other devices, Yeah,
that's always the way. But still, okay, ratings are down.
I'm not gonna sit here and beat the drum and
say you don't know how good the All Star Games are?
You people are watching these games when it's a playoff
(34:27):
game and something when and it's on a Saturday, and
people are, yes, they're they're they're consuming sports differently, but
here's the only game at night on a Tuesday night. Yeah, okay,
I understand ratings are down, but this is the reality
that that people just don't seem to understand for all
Star games. It's not it's not any criticism about a
network and what they have and what they're programming. Is
(34:48):
the big mantra that all leagues have for All Star
games is slow the slide that that's what it is, right,
the All Star Game, the era of the All Star
Game is never coming back to us. It was great
for a long time, right, We look forward to the
All Star Game in Major League Baseball more than any
other growing up, and and and still the NBA All
(35:08):
Star Game was terrific. And then it got really cartoonish
with the point totals getting up to one hundred and
eight one hundred and ninety, so we have to do
something new. The Pro Bowl was still something people watched
because we were so starved for football. But as time
has gone on, we get our fill of football. We're
not over We're not underserved on football anymore. So yeah,
the model for All Star games is slow the slide.
(35:30):
They know every year, on a yearly based year to
year basis, ratings are going to go down. They know
that the main goal is to let's not lose a lot.
Let's lose the fewest number reviewers we can. Let's let's
try to make sure that when it's down compared to
other years. Here's what the All Star Game was five
years ago. It's going to be down. Let's make sure
(35:51):
that it's down a low number. It's not something that
falls off the cliff. Because that's what you have to do.
The era of the All Star Game as a must
see event is over. So how do you try to
figure new ways and designs out to get people to
continue to watch or to get less people to not watch,
which is more what it is for All Star games.
(36:11):
So yeah, certain things are going to be ideas that
maybe you love, maybe it don't. Put its way to
try to get new people to the games, whether it's
ludicrous doing Welcome to Atlanta, whether it's the players getting
miked up in Kershaw being miked up in the middle
of his inning, which was amazingly good. Now you can't
bank on the home run derby swing off every year,
but sure that was something. I'm sure that saw a
(36:33):
spike in viewership. Hey it's eight point one million. This
is how we're deciding the All Star Game, right, so
overall it's a success. But understand that you're not measuring
All Star Game as look at the ratings. We're patting
ourselves on the back the day after. It's Oh good,
don't we only lost a little bit and it's still
the highest rated All Star game of all the All
Star games. Yeah, were okay, who we dodged that bullet.
(36:55):
Now we'll get ready to try to figure something out
for next year so we don't lose more people going on.
You know you're gonna lose year to year. Just lose
it slowly, slow. Every commissioner is saying, I want to
slow the slide until his time for somebody else to
be commissioner. So I know, I don't want to be
the commissioner that killed an All Star game. I'm not
gonna be that guy. Just slow the slide, that's what
it is. Just be careful.
Speaker 3 (37:16):
You're sounding like too many politicians from a couple of
years ago. But anyway, oh, stop the steal, Slow the
slow when we look at it. The other part in
John Paul Morosi when he joined us yesterday, he deliberately
used it, and I think part of him felt bad
for saying it, but talking about it the show that
it was, because it was right.
Speaker 1 (37:37):
It was.
Speaker 3 (37:38):
It was a game. It had a lot of moments,
but it had a lot of choreograph things. It had
a lot of inserted moments. We had the stand up
to cancer, which is always such a big poignant moment,
or our buddy Scott Miller who passed away getting his love,
and so many others family friends, and not a dry
eye in the house during that. You had the Hank
Aaron tribute. You had like you had all these moments,
(38:00):
the Kershaw thing that we played yesterday, which is still
two of the funnest, funnest minutes of audio that we've
had in a while, and also the suck It, Big
Dumper when he got back to the dugout and all
like all those modes. But the thing is you're gonna
have so many people that tune in. But those also,
(38:20):
all those moments became huge viral things across all social
media platforms YouTube, Twitter, slash x, Instagram, TikTok, you name it.
So Baseball when they try to go back to the aggregate.
Now it's it's about finding that audience elsewhere. Like we
were talking about when we're looking at what ESPN and
Fox and other networks do as they expand and change
(38:43):
their programming. Same thing here, it's all right, you're gonna
get this baseline. They're always gonna be there. Yeah, and
maybe a little bit less. Maybe you get a little
bit more because you can get a circumstance like this
where you get a spike because of the newness of
a swing off circumstance. But you're also trying to figure out,
all right, how do we have these other moments that
(39:03):
continue to be part of the process that we capture
eyeballs and attention and metrics that we can go back
and sell our advertisers in the next cycle.
Speaker 1 (39:12):
Yeah, that's that's why you're gonna get stunt casting continuing
on All Star Games. Something new, something new here. Look,
the the NHL stumbled upon the Hey, the Mini Olympics
like they had last year instead of the all same,
which is a huge success. The NBA is saying, we're
borrowing right from that for next year. We're having that
all Star Game. Right. Maybe eventually the Major League Baseball
(39:32):
tries that for a year. I mean, I don't know,
but there's gonna always be something because it's just hey,
let's just keep let's just keep that slide as slow
as we can. Let's lose the fewest amount of years.
We know we're gonna lose them. We know we're gonna
lose them. Let's just lose not the biggest numbers.
Speaker 3 (39:48):
See, I think people would have been might have come
in even in bigger numbers if you'd actually had the
robot on buyers instead of the abs.
Speaker 1 (39:56):
Oh, you had robots and more people. You have robots,
you know, I mean zombies and aliens.
Speaker 3 (40:00):
You got a little guy with the backwards cap and
his mask and it's a robot.
Speaker 1 (40:04):
Yeah. Oh yeah, like your programming like he's Frank Drebon. Yeah,
you get like aliens landing on a you know, from
Outer Spin with zombies.
Speaker 3 (40:11):
I mean, yeah, that's gonna do it. We got everything
aliens like Jan Soda coming up next. What NBA team
is stressed out by
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Speaker 1 (01:07):
Well, we had to we and last week while you
were gone. We had to make sure that it was
a no hobo week. No ho was a no hobo week,
it was no home missed me.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
I felt like I was Joey or Phoebe at times
where like I lift out of everything.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
Yeah, and it really doesn't matter. Oh Phoebe, I thought
you would leave the group first years ago. Wait what uh?
But uh, look there's no baseball tonight, right, there's no
base of course we miss you. Of course miss What
do you want me to say we didn't. Of course
we missed you.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
Nah, I think you're lying, but I appreciate it. Nothing
Why I kept sending you stories just like it was
a normal day.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
Listen, you were waking up to a bunch of stuff.
I had four in the morning. Of course we missed you.
Of course every day I woke up saying, harmon, you're
on vacation. Stop sending me stories. You're on But they
were good stories off for dad, they were good stories.
They were good stories. Now look, now this is a look.
There's still sporting events tonight, right. The Open Championship I
(02:07):
think begins in what like a half hour, right hour
and a half. We're gonna we get to start. Oh,
I am I an hour off? I think was what
I was hearing. My scooting time is off a little bit,
a little bit. It's a little bit off of.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
You didn't wear a kilty Maybe tomorrow I willka Thursday.
Uh so we have the Open Championship starting, we have
big nw NB a night tonight.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
Uh sure, But you didn't think today was gonna be
a watershed day in sports, But it is because of
two big stories, one breaking over the course of the
night tonight, one from earlier. Today. We could look, we
could wind up looking back at today saying, hey, what
(02:54):
was the day where the new media and the new
way we consume cover sports? When was that embraced as
a general acceptance? Right? When did the new media go
from well, I'm fighting with the old media, and I
mean new media where you have look, the players are
(03:14):
doing their own thing. Now you have lots of podcasters
and and and different sorts of content produced by non
traditional media outlets Fox, ESPN, everything else. It's been a
big battle the last few years new media, old media.
What was the day the new media finally broke through
into the mainstream. We're gonna look back at today, Okay,
(03:35):
Number one. The story earlier today right Fox Sports One
is making big changing into all their programming morning programming.
They're reportedly replacing the shows that they canceled with some
sort of agreement with Barstool Sports, and Dave Portnoy would
be involved, potentially would be on the college football shows
and some other some of their existing shows that that
(03:56):
have big audiences would be would be put on FS one. Now,
the big nude kickoff, that's our idea. So that's the
whole thing. When you say big nude kickoff, that's our idea.
You got to you gotta pass money if you want
to say big nude kickoff. That's our thing, big dude kickoff.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
So that's a that's a big watershed day because this
is here's new media of barstool where suddenly, hey, it
didn't work a few years ago with ESPN simply because
the timing wasn't right right. The way Barstool does sports
is not the way that we are accustomed to it.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
It's a younger audience, clearly, and is it quite the
protect the shield element that traditional sports outlets want and desire.
Probably not. I didn't when that happened. I'm like, there's
no way, the barstool Sports of an ESPN is gonn.
Last they're gonna say, what are we putting on? This
is this is not our programming, right, this is not
what Disney ESPN does. So of course it lasted what
(04:51):
like a day or a week before they said, okay,
we have to get rid of this. We can have
this programming on. But now years have gone by and
the barstool way of covering sports it has become more popular.
It's become more accepted as a way that people consume sports.
So now suddenly revisiting, hey, making barstool part of your brand? Okay, right,
people have seen it now, they understand what the content is.
(05:13):
It's not as much of a wildcard as it was
a few years ago. So traditional media outlets like here's Fox,
traditional media outlet that could potentially be putting being in
partnership basically with barstool Sports, which has also.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
Had an edge forever though, right, I mean that was
the branding initially married with children and the Simpsons and
whatever else that it was always a little bit, you know,
off the normal pathway. So this is all these years later,
just a different extension. But O was to you know,
some of the changes that have gone on in media.
What is that five years ago?
Speaker 1 (05:46):
Yeah, yeah, four five years I think it was right
before around COVID. Yeah, right before the pandemic. I got
things when it happened. And so this is a big day, right,
all of a sudden, Well, barstool Sports and Fox like that.
That's this the whole thing, right, this is Fox if
they you know, this thing goes through changing the way
they present sports, changing the audience. Like clearly they're doing that. Okay,
(06:08):
they see what ESPN is doing with Pat McAfee, and
they're saying, all right, we're going after the younger demographic.
The younger demographic is more forgiving of a lot of things.
They want content that's more edgy, they want they want
something that's different from what they have seen, which for
the past few years has been here a bunch of
athletes arguing with each other and who has the bigger
hot take? And I love a hot take more than
anybody else. But you can't just continually throw hot takes
(06:30):
because they lose their they lose their gravitas. So this
has been the way things have gone the last years.
And now this could be Fox saying, hey, and I
understand it, and I think it's a it's a smart
thing to say, we went this angle. We see the
growth in a different area, and the growth is younger audience,
more edgy content, however you want to describe it. So
this is a big name. Now here's Barstool getting in
(06:51):
potentially getting in with Fox. And now you have ESPN.
And what we saw on the SP's earlier tonight from
host Shane Gillis, who yes, has ESPN kind of towed
the line in previous years with some jokes that you go, ooh,
that's not quite a Disney ESPN type joke on the SPE's.
But okay, comedians want to go on and do their thing,
(07:11):
and they have and they have their their style, and
ESPN doesn't want to jump on there on their backs
too much and say, okay, don't do this, don't do this,
don't do this. But clearly ESPN is a brand. Disney
is a brand they want to protect, right, Disney is
Little Mermaid and Cars and Incanto and all of these
different movies. This is the brand they want to Now,
maybe ESPN gets spun off, if Disney winds up selling ESPN,
(07:36):
that could happen, But this is the Disney This is
the ESPN brand that has been around for the last
thirty some odd years since Sports Center broke through in
the late eighties early nineties. And now tonight you have
Shane Gillis and the jokes that he did on the
s pi's doing Jeffrey Epstein jokes, doing jokes with racial
tinges to it, involving Caitlin Clark. He's doing he did
(07:59):
the Jay Simpson joke again, the old nor McDonald line,
you know, with with Travis Hunter, some of the stuff
he did. I'm saying, oh my good, this is not
ESPN's brand. This is not This is stuff that if
Ricky Gervais or they wanted to do this on the oscars,
they would say, hey, you know what to risque for
us man not doing it, not doing it. We can't,
we can't do these jokes. And I mean I have
(08:21):
not seen I am blown away that this is the
content that ESPN had, not by the content itself. Seeing
Shane Gillis do is then you know how he's liking.
You've seen jokes like this all over the internet. Nothing
here is so unbelievably new, But the fact that ESPN
is embracing this and this is part of their turn
away from where they were to Hey, we're hiring Pat
(08:43):
McAfee to come on now, and the network is all
Pat McAfee and steven A. Smith. We have gone away
from our coverage of sports being what is going to
separate us the worldwide leader too. Here's a guy that
just throws out hot takes in his board with what
he does, but still we're gonna give him one hundred
million dollars. Here's Pat McAfee, who are going to put
on every single show because he's gonna get us to
(09:04):
a new audience. And Pat McFee show's got cursing on it.
It's got edgy content, and he fights on social media,
and he fights with people who are are executives at ESPN.
The guys losing their jobs after you fight with Pat
McAfee on it. This is like ESPN. This is like
them being anakin. It's like them going suddenly, hey, we're
going completely to the dark side with where we were.
(09:25):
And so you have that that tide that's been coming
in to shore little by little with McAfee and steven
A and the content, and now here you have it.
It's hitting the shore tonight. With the content that Shane
Gillis put out there for ESPN. I mean, I'm blown
away that these kind of jokes you can find him
out there, you know, you can find out that these
(09:46):
are the jokes and this is the content that ESPN.
Speaker 3 (09:49):
Put on the spis. I don't know if there's gonna
be any blowback. I don't know what it's gonna be,
but the fact that this got out there and it
continued to get out there, this it really just blew
me away that this was kind of the content that
we saw tonight from a Disney company.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
SGA is here, give it up for.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
SCA Hell yeah, bro, And now everybody's sitting around him
is in foul trouble.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
All right, that's every time's nice. That's a great clean
and tame and whatever. That's what I was comfortable playing
on the show. Some of the other stuff is like ooh,
I mean, like, I mean, he's doing Jeffrey Epstein jokes.
He's doing racial jokes with Kton Clark. It's like, oh
my god, Like, this is not ESPN. This is not
the ESPN I grew up, And it's not the ESPN
I worked for. It's not the ESPN. The Trey Wingo
probably worked for before you got let go a couple
(10:35):
of years.
Speaker 3 (10:36):
But that's the thing, right, We've seen the shift and climate,
and we talk about it a little bit and now
and again on the show and certainly in our off
air conversations about you know, where we're at in terms
of content and the lines that have been redrawn. Twenty nineteen,
Shane Gillis was fired from Saturday Night Live for you know,
(10:57):
comments and what was deemed in a appropriate you know,
the old canceling line being used. And then this last
year he was back to host it right. Five years,
a lot of things changed, a lot of what was
truly under scrutiny. Time and again, comedians are back doing
their thing right and be getting all of their their
(11:20):
hour long specials on Twitter and their voices. It's not
just in the club, it's back and social media. And
that's what McAfee's show has done a good job. And
that's what Barstool, their whole brand was about, you know,
not just going to their website, No, they were dominating
in social media off little clips much like your late
(11:40):
night talk show are now right, they do the clips
before the thing even airs. Here's the three things you're
gonna know and want to see, So let's give it
to you long before it's actually airing, and it's a
normal spot. So the evolution of this and now you've
got proof of concept with the McAfee show, of the
audience built, the revenue that flows in. Look at the
contract that he was able to sign, the power that
(12:03):
he wields, part of the WWE universe as well, So
you've got that, you know, partnership through him that rolls
through so for portantly in barstool with Fox. If this
does come to fruition, it's a natural extension. You go
head to head in that same space, and a lot
of the loyalists there will be gravitating to the airwaves
(12:24):
at FS one and all of the social media channels
that flow from there. Right, I'm sure there'll be some
negotiated exclusives for the FS one platform versus THEIRS that
you know is available later on, you know, kind of
like they do now. But if I go to Disney
Plus right now, I can watch all sorts of horror
movies are fed to me at the same time. Hey,
(12:45):
would you like to see the latest iteration of cars right?
Speaker 1 (12:51):
Or the Bear or whatever?
Speaker 3 (12:52):
Else, right, because you've got a whole suite of networks
that are under there. Right, you got your Disney, Pixar, Marvel,
Star Wars, then you get National g A Graphic, then
you get Hulu and ESPN all in that process. And
it's not a commercial. It's just saying you've got a
breadth of content, which is not necessarily the content you
want your six year old finding and being fed if
(13:13):
they go into a non locked.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
Part of the account.
Speaker 3 (13:17):
So it's already there, they're already doing it and realizing
that it's it's good for business, and as more and
more stuff gravitates from traditional cable through the streaming services,
et cetera, that you're gonna see more of it.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
Yeah. Look this that's why it's such a big day
because look, the Anakin move by ESPN has been coming slowly.
Lose the Padawan. Here's a h ESPN two is the Padawan?
Oh ESPN two. Yeah, you still want because because gone
to the days of boy. I want to turn on
ESPN two at nine o'clock and watch NFL Films Presents
right for the next three hours. I'm not gonna get
(13:51):
the I'm not gonna get Hey, the one in fifteen
season by the Jets, they are taking flights getting ready
for next year. Haking flight. Well, that's so many times
they use that, everybody, there's only there's only two. It's
taking well, there's three. Sorry, there's three NFL films. There's
taking flight, which is every team that didn't go to
the super Bowl, okay, okay, that didn't win the super
Bowl taking flight. There's called the Glory the team that
(14:13):
won the super Bowl for the first time. And then
there's return to glory if you won the super Bowl
for a repeat time in your franchise career. So taking flight,
every team that didn't win the super Bowl, call the
glory first time you win, return to glory if you
won already. That's it. Three titles here.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
We get to go back into an episode of The
Simpsons and then you say it's play taking care of business,
but we just did that one play taking over top.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
This is a watershed day when you look at the
two biggest sports media companies ESPN and Fox saying hey,
we are embracing the new style, the new way things
are going. And this is the official day where it's
gone from we're fighting, we're fighting, We're fighting to Okay,
we've met. We're part of the mainstream. Now it's big.
Speaker 3 (14:57):
Day, man changing Big day like Anita sandwich, happens a
day after the day after the all start.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
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Fox Sports Radio, The Jason Smith Show with my best
friend Mike Harmon. So we'll get to the high profile
NBA story in a second. But I got to tell
you this because I because I just got this. It
does not involved Lebron James, but we will have stuff
on Lebron James coming up about a half hour. But
so I just got a text from my wife and
you know, she does trivia on Wednesday nights. And oh,
(16:27):
by the way, we won on Sunday again. We're is
she mad at you from yesterday or from yesterday? No, no,
she's not mad at me. Yesterday she said, I said
I picked you over Halle Berry maybe three seconds say
that I did not? I did right away. It was
like within one second. No, no, that's stop watch. You
had a bunch of wide receivers run there forty n No,
no it suns. Stop making things up right, It didn't happen.
(16:49):
Did Jamaicans put up three touchdowns from the time that
you took care? So you know, Wednesday night she does
trivia and I always say, hey, you know, text me
when you get a good sports question, so we can
do it on the show. And we do that. We
get really good questions. I got it.
Speaker 3 (17:04):
Oh, I got a great entertainment two questions from tonight, right,
I've got a great one. But the first one is this,
she said, you're not going to believe. The last question
was a sports question. The last one, last question question.
We got it right. But we came in sixth. And
this is out of like twenty teams. Like it's a
big it's a big Wednesday Night. There's tons of teams.
(17:24):
So here's the question, you guys ready, So we start
working Sunday through Tuesday and then Thursday and Friday, so
we can go on.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
Wednesdays or Wednesday night. The questions aren't as fun as
they are on Sunday. Like Sundays is that we do trivia.
Speaker 3 (17:38):
It's more like there's more entertainment, movie, TV presidents, landmarks
like you know, like tonight, it's questions like what's the
first letter and the first word in the Scrabble dictionary.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
That's also another and it's like, okay, so it's a
lot hard. It's it's not as fun, but here's your question, right,
and you started putting an L up in front of here.
What fell? Team changed its nickname in nineteen sixty three,
only to see another team adopt that nickname over thirty
years later. Thirty years later, what team changed its nickname
(18:13):
in nineteen sixty three, only to see another team adopt
that nickname thirty years later. Saint Louis Arizona Cardinals. No, no, no,
let me know. You guys need a hint. So sixty three.
Oh the Texans.
Speaker 5 (18:33):
No, that was definitely my guess. I just knew the hormones, right, Texans. No,
you may be getting you might be getting there. Let
me know, you guys need a hint. You guys want
to hint.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
Cardinals, as my wife said to me, thank god I
was married. I married to you because right away I said,
you better have gotten this right. But the Jets went
from the Titans to the Jets, and the Titans went
from the Tennessee Oilers to the Titans. I said, the
Jets is the final. This is our year.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
We're going to the super.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
Bowl because it's a final.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
Gues.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
Yes, somebody only got them to a sixth place finish. Yeah,
I know, but they apparently vaulted a lot of teams
because they got the Jets. But I'm like, boy, if
you just heightened Jets had been better on that, you
might have been in like third or second play. Maybe
you would have won. Maybe you would have won. Didn't that, Yeah,
maybe it would have won. I gotta go back and
study my moves again.
Speaker 5 (19:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
Yeah. So they said, right, it's a change your nickname.
In nineteen sixty two, I'm like, oh, the Jets, Oh
yeah it is yeah, the Jets. Yeah, they were the
Titans of the Tennessee Titans. The Titans, we are the Titans.
Come on, wow, the Jets of the fighting. Do you
know why they were named the Jets? They were named that,
they were named the why the they won? Why they
were why they were named the Jets? It was what
(19:48):
he called it was uh not a not a contest,
but a uh what do you call it? They wanted
to know it. It was a they had a whole thing,
like a voting.
Speaker 3 (19:57):
Fit thing with the guy in the place. Oh wait,
they don't even know No, wait wait wait, wait, no,
I think Frostburg has a joke. Hang on, okay, why
why were the Jets? Why are they named the Jets?
Speaker 1 (20:08):
Because they played at Shay Stadium, their LaGuardia Airport. Oh yeah,
and then over all the time. No, they wanted something
that was in the city. No, they want they wanted
something indicative of the city, and and I thought the
Jets was a good nickname, but I thought it was
they put it out there to uh, the fans like
and and vote for what the finalists were say. Hang
(20:30):
On fans mostly do to where they played New York
to nickname, hang On fans vote New York did sick name?
Hang on? Uh hang in hands in enhances. Yeah, I
got to have that, Jack Bauer PDA. Uh. Yeah, it
was something close to that, like they they put oh,
they didn't put it out to the They didn't put
(20:50):
it out to fans. They put it out to people
who wanted to were in the some kind of decision
committee of deciding what they wanted the nickname to be.
So something like that. Yeah, okay, Jets, Jets. There you go.
That was one of my close hats I ever owned.
Was my the Titans of New York cabin.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
It's good.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
The guy looking like a vampire, like he's leaping in
the air, you know, running with a fluid.
Speaker 3 (21:12):
He was the original karate kid. It does look very
karate cadesque. It does look very karate as it does
that cheat and move that that guy got over.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
The final question that Jeopardy is about the Jets. How
about that we're going to Super Bowl? Justin Field is
getting us to the super Bowl. Now, that's what it is.
I would love to see that some rookie cards. Uh. So,
today in the NBA, I gotta say, I'm a little
shocked by the reaction to the Bradley Beal move to Clippers. Okay, Bradley,
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Bradley Beal, I know, right, not to be confused with
our buddy Larry Bee Larry be So, Bradley Beal gets
bought out by the Suns, which we knew was coming,
and immediately agreed right away to join the Clippers. Okay,
all right, happens right away? Want to go join the Clippers?
All right? Bradley Beil's a nice player. You know, it's
(22:07):
seventeen a game guy, three time All Star. But the
number of this is up. This is an NBA championship
caliber move that I've seen over the course of the day.
It's just insane.
Speaker 3 (22:21):
Well, I mean, if you're putting it on a very
long list of building blocks, and you know, there's the
great South Park episode where you have the underpants gnomes
and they talk about their pyramid of success sure, number one,
steal underpants, number two, question.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
Mark number three. Profit. That's kind of what we're at here.
Speaker 3 (22:39):
There's a giant question mark box as to how you
get to that title, you know, in the Western Conference.
But this could be one of the little boxes along
the way. Yeah, no, it could be one of the drawers.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
Look look, let me just look, man, look, man, look,
let me tell you about this. We're talking about new media.
Now you're going look look, mad I think my favorite
Tony Bruno quote of ever was I've been in this
business for thirty years. I'm an overnight star at fifty five.
Come on, man, uh but look, Bradley Beal is a
nice player. Okay. He was supposed to help lead the Suns,
(23:12):
didn't lead them anywhere, right, He was a nice player
with the Wizards, didn't get anywhere. Okay, all of a sudden,
he's not gonna go to the Clipper. He's not gonna
be He's not a guy that puts a team over
the top. KD is not an over the top guy.
But I get why the Rockets went after him, because, hey,
they need someone to make shots down the stretch of games.
I understand that Katie's gonna take these shots. I get it.
(23:33):
Bradley Beal is not an over the top guy, but
you would think today. I know, we're starved for NBA
trades and Lebron and everything else in Karl Anthony Townsend.
The Knick's gonna make a trade. What's gonna happen. I
get that we're star for that, news man, I understand,
But Bradley Beal, he's a little bit in an upgrade
of just a guy. All right, he's the Clippers. First
(23:54):
of all, I'll tell you exactly how the Clipper season
is gonna end. Oh okay, every year since balmber bought
the team has ended. They're gonna win forty five ish games,
and they're gonna lose in the first round of the playoffs.
Because this happens when you decide to build around guys
who are fifty five years old. You whoa, whoa, whoa.
Now they're accelerating an age, but not like dogs. But
(24:17):
you're built around bound stars who were thirty five years old,
and you went out and signed guys. Hey, what are
we gonna do with Framesy, We're gonna go get guys
who are thirty five and older. You don't win that way.
You don't. I don't understand, Kawhi Leonard. It's done, all right,
James Harden, it's done. These guys are good players in
the regular season as long as they're healthy, and as
they get older, you worry about their health. But you
(24:38):
get to the playoffs, you're overmatched by younger teams. The
Lakers got to the playoffs. They were overmatched by a
younger team. All nobody that's that's fronted by by stars
who are in their mid thirties goes and wins anything. Right,
this is how the Clippers here. They'll be a nice team,
they'll win forty five ish games as long as these
guys are healthy. But they'll get to the first round
(24:58):
of the playoffs and they'll go home because James Harden
will be tired by the time we get to the
later round, getting games in the first round of the playoffs,
and Kawhi Leonard will be tired. And this is what happens, right,
This is how every year ends. It's Bill Murray with
the Sledgehimer breaking the clock in Groundhog Day. Every day,
when I Got You, Babe comes on d every single day.
(25:19):
This is what the Clippers do. What they needed to
do was all right, coming off the Sterling era, I
get that. Hey, if you're telling me we can win
forty five games a year and be out in the
first round of the playoffs, every Clipper fan Steve bought
they would take that in a second. All right, great, hey,
we need that man. We need to get to a
new normal here. But this is now eight years of
the same thing, and it's going and it's going to
(25:42):
bat relying on the same players who now are no
longer twenty seven to twenty eight years old, but they're
thirty five and thirty six. You're not gonna win this way, right,
And Bradley Beal's gonna be thirty three and he's had
declining statistics. Yes, three time All Star Bradley Beal sounds great.
You're not getting that guy. You're not getting Bradley Beal
of five six eight years ago. And oh, by the way,
the Bradley Beal of five seven, eight years ago didn't
(26:03):
lead anybody anywhere.
Speaker 3 (26:05):
He's a it's a nice move. He wouldn't have put
the Lakers over the top. He wouldn't put anybody else
over the top. It's oh, hey, you got a guy
that can play a little bit, and maybe stay healthy
and score fifteen or sixteen off to fifteen off the
bench is probably what he's gonna wind up doing this year.
Speaker 1 (26:18):
All right, that's great. This is not over the top,
and the Clippers need to break the cycle and say
we're a destination now too. We have our own place. Hey,
we tried with Kawhi, and I feel like Kawhi's but
on the team now is his entire career, Like we've
just stricken his championships with the Spurs and the Raptors
out of the record books, because no, he's been with
the Clippers now forever.
Speaker 3 (26:37):
Right, one, did you win those titles? I was back
in the nineties. Yeah, Vince Carter with with it with
the Raptors, it was great. And then him and David
Robinson they were great one to two punch back in
nineteen eighty seven. Like they've tried, it hasn't worked. But
instead of saying, all right, we need to do something different,
build ourselves around younger stars.
Speaker 1 (26:52):
No, no, no, let's keep going with Kawhi. Let's give
James Harden more money. When this is how the season ends,
how was it gonna get any better?
Speaker 3 (26:59):
It's doing the same thing over and over again twenty
nineteen was that title with the Raptors.
Speaker 1 (27:04):
So ponder that. For as long as it's.
Speaker 3 (27:06):
Been street Lights over Spotlights were old enough to remember
those billboards and the coming attractions of battling for La
Supremacy with the Lakers and Lebron James coming to town
at that point. So I'm thinking, as you're talking about that,
the breath of things that we've experienced on air together
(27:28):
here at Fox Bords Radio, because remember the Donald Sterling
stuff started creeping out while we were on air all
those years ago. So what you have is a conversion
and convergence of these guys to where their deals are
all up. End of twenty six twenty seven, the only
guy there Zubatching. I think there's like one other guy
(27:49):
that would have a minimal contract so you can clear
the decks. We were talking with Mark Weiss about the
how does he get the second year option, Like, well,
here's eleven million dollars. If you stink we're on on
the hook for five point five million, we cut you.
We're not getting murdered on the cap if you play, well, yeah,
you go and play somewhere else for a lot more money.
Speaker 1 (28:08):
Have at it.
Speaker 3 (28:09):
But we won because that means you played well for
us this year, right, and we got you out of
bargain while Phoenix continues to pay you nineteen point two
million dollars. That's the greatest heiston at this thing by
you know, buy out was only thirteen million dollars against
one hundred and eleven million. He gets to keep the
rest good for him. So all of that to say,
(28:32):
as you go through the process, for Beal doesn't have
to be a world beater. He was in situations to
where I would argue how much did he really care?
After a while, certainly in Washington, Yeah, what we were
spinning our wheels.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
Even in the Eastern Conference. We suck.
Speaker 3 (28:49):
So take the money, put up some stats, play whatever
games you are as long as you're healthy, and go.
In Phoenix, it was clear very early on last year
they didn't like each other. Yeah, they didn't like their situation,
but nobody wanted to be the guy to pull the
plug on it. Devin Booker's going to be the guy
to stay. Kevin Durant didn't want to move. We get
that report during Yeah, could have gone at the deadline.
(29:12):
There are a bunch of potential suitors. I just didn't
want to move, and bal was like, the hell with you.
I'm with the Lebron James. I want the two guys
that has a no trade clause.
Speaker 1 (29:20):
I like that.
Speaker 3 (29:20):
That is the article and every talking point is he
won't wave his no trade clause. Look at the cloud
I have and now you have this opportunity to go
to the Clippers and be part of this with between
him and brook Lopez. They paid nothing for two guys
that'll be good rotational guys, third, fourth superstar. He didn't
(29:41):
have to be the guy. That's the other thing for
beal right, as much as it was Booker and Durant,
and he was the third guy of a big three.
I haven't talked about those in a while now. He
was still expected to play and play. Well here's He's
just a guy on a five point five million dollars deal,
so anything he does is a bonus at this point.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
I mean, look, I understand, Hey, we're starved for you.
The NBA we want. We've been told that all these
trades are gonna happen. We haven't gotten Eddy Bradley, not
over the top. And you're still in the West and
I've just told you how the Clipper season is going
to end. So there you go. You know, you know,
don't you need to go to the games. You just
got Okay, I told you, I told you I was
gonna end.
Speaker 3 (30:20):
You just gotta have a giant board where you mark
off like like days in prison.
Speaker 1 (30:25):
I got it, got there, forty seven wins. See, I
told you, And the Jets were the final answer. And
how about that? Huh well, really it was the Titans.
Well ture, it was, but it was a Jets franchise.
It was a Jets franchise. Uh time that. To find
out what's trending in the wide world of sports, Martin
White Sweaty got for us my friend.
Speaker 5 (30:42):
Free agent defensive end Von Miller will join the Commanders
on a reported one year deal. Posted a picture of
Champ Bailey in a Washington uniform on his Instagram page,
and Adam Schefter said it'll be a one year deal.
And the conversation still getting figured out. And the Major
League Baseball All Star Game drew seven point two million
viewers on Fox.
Speaker 1 (31:00):
Three.
Speaker 5 (31:00):
Time NBA All Star Bradley Beal, you guys just been
talking about it, got a two year, eleven million dollars
deal with the Clippers with a player option, so if
he plays really well, he doesn't have to stay. He
plays poorly, he gets five five more million after a
contract bile with the Suns in which he gave back
approximately what thirteen million dollars or one hundred something he
(31:22):
had coming tell you what? Bradley beal legend at the
Bank Spurs shutting down Dylan Harper for the remainder of
Summer League. Second overall pick WNBA News Fever beat the
Liberty ninety eight to seventy seven, Brown and Stewart with
a twenty four point eleven rebound double double. Fever ruled
out Kate le'clock before the game started. She has right
groin pain after the loss.
Speaker 1 (31:43):
After leaving.
Speaker 5 (31:43):
In the win to the Connecticut Sun just two days ago,
Asian Wilson had a thirty seven point ten rebound double
double as the Aces beat the Wings ninety to eighty six,
Dream beat the sky Links over the Mercury, and the
Storm beat the Valkyrites to round out the w action.
In the NFL, the Broncos have signed the first round
pick cornerback John A. Baron to his rookie deal, leaving
(32:05):
the Bengals seventeenth overall pick. Famar Stewart is the only
unsigned first round pick from aprils draft. Forty nine or
second round pick just reached in agreement on a four year,
ten point three million dollar deal with includes nine million
dollars guaranteed. Before now, only one second round pick had
been signed prior. It was a big point of contention
(32:26):
about the contracts. Now this second round pick for the
forty nine ers will have Alfred Collins the second round,
picking up forty third pick in the draft. We love
about eighty percent of his eighty eight percent, I should say.
Speaker 1 (32:38):
Of his deal guaranteed. That was a big stipulation.
Speaker 5 (32:41):
Thirty of thirty two second round picks remain unsigned at
this moment as we are just a couple of days
weeks away from training camp. Speaking of, Naji Harris will
likely begin Chargers training camp on the football non football
injury list after sustaining an eye injury during a fourth
of July firework accident.
Speaker 1 (32:58):
Back to you guys, thanks a bunch of dub Jason
Smith Mike Harmon live from the Fox Sports Radio Studios.
Coming up next, some big numbers are in from the
MLB All Star Game. Wait'll we tell you that's next Jason.
Speaker 2 (33:14):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
pm Pacific, Fox.
Speaker 1 (33:23):
Sports Radio The Jason Smith Show with My best friend
Mike Harmon. Damn. So, the ratings for last night's All
Star Game are in three point eight seven point two
million viewers. Now, this is down from last year's All
Star Game, is still the highest rated of all the
(33:44):
All Star games, which which it should be Chase Ball
has been that one, and it is not down so
much over what last year's was. But you know, you're
talking about seven point two million people watching a watching
an All Star game where you know, you're just you're
just seeing more stories about outlook, Baseball is losing viewers Baseball.
(34:06):
When when I see this, I understand and and I'm
not gonna sit here and like this is one of
those stories where I can't say, well, but you know,
people who are watching on other ways, other devices, Yeah,
that's always the way. But still, okay, ratings are down.
I'm not gonna sit here and beat the drum and
say you don't know how good the All Star Games are?
You people are watching these games when it's a playoff
(34:27):
game and something when and it's on a Saturday, and
people are, yes, they're they're they're consuming sports differently, but
here's the only game at night on a Tuesday night. Yeah, okay,
I understand ratings are down, but this is the reality
that that people just don't seem to understand for all
Star games. It's not it's not any criticism about a
network and what they have and what they're programming. Is
(34:48):
the big mantra that all leagues have for All Star
games is slow the slide that that's what it is, right,
the All Star Game, the era of the All Star
Game is never coming back to us. It was great
for a long time, right, We look forward to the
All Star Game in Major League Baseball more than any
other growing up, and and and still the NBA All
(35:08):
Star Game was terrific. And then it got really cartoonish
with the point totals getting up to one hundred and
eight one hundred and ninety, so we have to do
something new. The Pro Bowl was still something people watched
because we were so starved for football. But as time
has gone on, we get our fill of football. We're
not over We're not underserved on football anymore. So yeah,
the model for All Star games is slow the slide.
(35:30):
They know every year, on a yearly based year to
year basis, ratings are going to go down. They know
that the main goal is to let's not lose a lot.
Let's lose the fewest number reviewers we can. Let's let's
try to make sure that when it's down compared to
other years. Here's what the All Star Game was five
years ago. It's going to be down. Let's make sure
(35:51):
that it's down a low number. It's not something that
falls off the cliff. Because that's what you have to do.
The era of the All Star Game as a must
see event is over. So how do you try to
figure new ways and designs out to get people to
continue to watch or to get less people to not watch,
which is more what it is for All Star games.
(36:11):
So yeah, certain things are going to be ideas that
maybe you love, maybe it don't. Put its way to
try to get new people to the games, whether it's
ludicrous doing Welcome to Atlanta, whether it's the players getting
miked up in Kershaw being miked up in the middle
of his inning, which was amazingly good. Now you can't
bank on the home run derby swing off every year,
but sure that was something. I'm sure that saw a
(36:33):
spike in viewership. Hey it's eight point one million. This
is how we're deciding the All Star Game, right, so
overall it's a success. But understand that you're not measuring
All Star Game as look at the ratings. We're patting
ourselves on the back the day after. It's Oh good,
don't we only lost a little bit and it's still
the highest rated All Star game of all the All
Star games. Yeah, were okay, who we dodged that bullet.
(36:55):
Now we'll get ready to try to figure something out
for next year so we don't lose more people going on.
You know you're gonna lose year to year. Just lose
it slowly, slow. Every commissioner is saying, I want to
slow the slide until his time for somebody else to
be commissioner. So I know, I don't want to be
the commissioner that killed an All Star game. I'm not
gonna be that guy. Just slow the slide, that's what
it is. Just be careful.
Speaker 3 (37:16):
You're sounding like too many politicians from a couple of
years ago. But anyway, oh, stop the steal, Slow the
slow when we look at it. The other part in
John Paul Morosi when he joined us yesterday, he deliberately
used it, and I think part of him felt bad
for saying it, but talking about it the show that
it was, because it was right.
Speaker 1 (37:37):
It was.
Speaker 3 (37:38):
It was a game. It had a lot of moments,
but it had a lot of choreograph things. It had
a lot of inserted moments. We had the stand up
to cancer, which is always such a big poignant moment,
or our buddy Scott Miller who passed away getting his love,
and so many others family friends, and not a dry
eye in the house during that. You had the Hank
Aaron tribute. You had like you had all these moments,
(38:00):
the Kershaw thing that we played yesterday, which is still
two of the funnest, funnest minutes of audio that we've
had in a while, and also the suck It, Big
Dumper when he got back to the dugout and all
like all those modes. But the thing is you're gonna
have so many people that tune in. But those also,
(38:20):
all those moments became huge viral things across all social
media platforms YouTube, Twitter, slash x, Instagram, TikTok, you name it.
So Baseball when they try to go back to the aggregate.
Now it's it's about finding that audience elsewhere. Like we
were talking about when we're looking at what ESPN and
Fox and other networks do as they expand and change
(38:43):
their programming. Same thing here, it's all right, you're gonna
get this baseline. They're always gonna be there. Yeah, and
maybe a little bit less. Maybe you get a little
bit more because you can get a circumstance like this
where you get a spike because of the newness of
a swing off circumstance. But you're also trying to figure out,
all right, how do we have these other moments that
(39:03):
continue to be part of the process that we capture
eyeballs and attention and metrics that we can go back
and sell our advertisers in the next cycle.
Speaker 1 (39:12):
Yeah, that's that's why you're gonna get stunt casting continuing
on All Star Games. Something new, something new here. Look,
the the NHL stumbled upon the Hey, the Mini Olympics
like they had last year instead of the all same,
which is a huge success. The NBA is saying, we're
borrowing right from that for next year. We're having that
all Star Game. Right. Maybe eventually the Major League Baseball
(39:32):
tries that for a year. I mean, I don't know,
but there's gonna always be something because it's just hey,
let's just keep let's just keep that slide as slow
as we can. Let's lose the fewest amount of years.
We know we're gonna lose them. We know we're gonna
lose them. Let's just lose not the biggest numbers.
Speaker 3 (39:48):
See, I think people would have been might have come
in even in bigger numbers if you'd actually had the
robot on buyers instead of the abs.
Speaker 1 (39:56):
Oh, you had robots and more people. You have robots,
you know, I mean zombies and aliens.
Speaker 3 (40:00):
You got a little guy with the backwards cap and
his mask and it's a robot.
Speaker 1 (40:04):
Yeah. Oh yeah, like your programming like he's Frank Drebon. Yeah,
you get like aliens landing on a you know, from
Outer Spin with zombies.
Speaker 3 (40:11):
I mean, yeah, that's gonna do it. We got everything
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