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Jason Smith. This week, I'll buy Carmen alongside rich Orn
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I'll be rolling my bag of bones out of bed
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He goo cific daylight time. Oh, I thought you were
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Let's go yeah, Look, I mean look, I could get
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It's good boy.
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There's places that are open, buddy, Well, you know what,
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into little NBA this hour, but one of the stories
that caught my eye was that we've got the first
list of betting favorites from draft Kings dot com. No,
not for wins, we've had those win totals and Super
Bowl odds. How about for the highest scoring squad?
Speaker 5 (01:55):
Why?
Speaker 3 (01:55):
Because I'm starting to do my fantasy football write ups,
I've done a couple of drafts. Who would you think
would be the odds favorite rich Orenberger to be the
highest scoring team in the National Football League?
Speaker 5 (02:07):
Ooh, good question.
Speaker 4 (02:11):
I would probably put the San Francisco forty nine ers
awfully high on that list.
Speaker 5 (02:20):
I would you know what?
Speaker 4 (02:22):
Both the teams that immediately came to mind appeared in
the NFC Championship game, it would be the forty nine
Ers in the Detroit Lions.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
And there you have it. Those are your odds favorites.
Courtesy of DraftKings. I've got the top ten in front
of me here. Wow, forty nine Ers at five to one, Okay,
Lions at five and a half to one.
Speaker 5 (02:41):
Can I try to guess some more of the Yeah,
go ahead, let's.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
Ding ding ding, Let's play this complete game show style,
all right?
Speaker 4 (02:48):
In the top ten. I'm also going to throw the
Bengals in there.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
Actually they are not.
Speaker 5 (02:55):
Okay, I'm gonna definitely throw Then the Chiefs in.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
Heaps are seventh.
Speaker 5 (03:01):
I'm gonna throw the Ravens.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
In ninth at thirteen to one.
Speaker 5 (03:05):
Wow. I'm gonna throw the Jets in. No, the Jets aren't. Wow.
All right, then the Dolls I think.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
I think for the Jets, and part of that is
going to be are they trusted?
Speaker 5 (03:14):
Old?
Speaker 3 (03:14):
Number twelve is standing out? Or number eight? I should
say number eight is standing upright? Right? We love Breisee Hall, right,
we love Wilson Wilson, we love them. I mean I
don't love Mike Williams. Mike, when's Mike Williams gonna play
I don't know, November.
Speaker 4 (03:29):
Fifth, maybe, I mean, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
Then when's the last game he plays?
Speaker 4 (03:35):
Well, that's true, that November the then probably November sixth.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
Okay, because Halloween they play on Thursday night football. Uh so,
maybe we get him back there. And I don't mean
to disparage the guy I was on the field. I
mean he was a hell of a contributor. I mean,
Frostburg I can finally laugh at that joke. See right,
we had Keenan Allen stats for Daysn't as much as
I love him joining the Bears, I'm already sitting there, going,
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that's the worst field in the National Football League. His
knees aren't holding up on that crap.
Speaker 5 (04:07):
Yeah yeah. Oh Dolphins Top ten.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
Yeah, Dolphins are fourth, They're ten to one, all right,
they're tied with two other teams.
Speaker 5 (04:14):
Throw the Rams in there.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
Rams are there at twelve to one.
Speaker 4 (04:18):
They're number eight, okay, and then ooh the Houston Texans.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
No, the Texas do not make what you got, Frostburg Chargers.
Chargers do do not make the short list of top ten.
Speaker 4 (04:29):
What a crappy list, I know, yeah, really yeah, all right,
our ball and running the football.
Speaker 5 (04:36):
Let's go last.
Speaker 4 (04:37):
Guess uh, this is kind of a wild card, but
Baker and Mike Evans both time big contracts.
Speaker 5 (04:43):
Tampa Bay.
Speaker 3 (04:44):
I kind of dig you the cut of your jib,
but the answer is no. Okay, So we have the
forty nine ers, we have the Lions. They still have
the Bills third at nine to one, even with a
change over in the wide receiving cores. Obviously, Stevon Diggs
has gone down to the planet Houston. You've seen Gabe Davis.
He's gone down to Jacksonville. You have the tight ends,
You've got a rookie coming in. You got James Cook
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in the backfield, obviously Allen as a runner and passer.
But yeah, they're third, the Dolphins. You got fifth and
six tied with the Dolphins, so tied for fourth, the
Cowboys and the Eagles. Okay, the Chiefs, the Rams, the Ravens,
and coming in at tenth the Green Bay Packers. Oh see,
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at fifteen to one.
Speaker 5 (05:30):
That's sneaky.
Speaker 4 (05:31):
And I dig it, and I understand it, and I
like it and I agree with it. I think that
the Green Bay Packers offensively could a bunch of points
because if you believe in progression and the possibility that
Jordan Love gets even better than what he showed last year,
then this could be a really, really substantial offensive season
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for green Bay.
Speaker 5 (05:55):
As we know, and we saw this with Rogers many times.
Speaker 4 (05:59):
We saw the throughout the two decades of terror over
the NFL with the New England Patriots and Tom Brady.
You don't always need to have the best pieces around
a great quarterback. And I think we're getting ahead of
ourselves to say Jordan Love is great, but maybe an
emerging great.
Speaker 5 (06:18):
But you have to have people he trusts.
Speaker 4 (06:20):
And last year it felt like the green Bay Packers
offense really gelled toward the end of the season and
a lot of trust was built. And not a ton
of moves made there this offseason for green Bay either,
So it feels like they're kind of ready to reset
and reload and get after it again.
Speaker 3 (06:37):
Yeah, it's curious. Let's stay with the NFC North and
with the Packers in particular. You know, I still I
planted my flag on the selection of Love years ago,
that it was the right move when it happened, based
on threats of old Rogers and retirement and injury history,
et cetera, and going back to and I might be
the only national host that references Bret Hunley with any regularity.
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But you remember what happened to a promising four and
one start once Rogers got hurt years ago and Brent
Hudley had to be the guy. Sorry, Brent, you know
that's the way it works. So they didn't want to
repeat that. But you're looking at a Packers squad, young
receiving corps, Watson, Dobbs and read. You bring in Josh Jacobs,
who had a curious stat this was going around today.
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He's got the most catches. He needs five more to
break the record for most catches in NFL history without
a touchdown. Yeah, he's at one hundred and ninety seven.
Kind of curious there. AJ Dillon is still part of
the mix there. Defense pretty solid, but that's the thing
about predicting the NFC North right, the expectation with the Bears,
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with all of the changes they made defensively once they
traded for Montes, sweat and eber Flues did his thing.
I'm still looking for Alan Williams, So if you could
find Alan Williams for me, the guy they sent out
of town amidst a lot of allegations and scrutiny and
speculation last year, rich I would greatly appreciate it, because
there's never been any resolution any of that. But either way,
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once eber Flus and that defense got rolling, everything kind
of clicked right. They finished the seven win team, Fields
goes off to Pittsburgh. But now you bring in Caleb Williams,
you bring in Swift, you bring in Gerald Everett from
the Chargers, talked about Keenan Allen obviously, with DJ Moore
already there and rome A doonsay, you got a squad
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that on paper at least looks like it's ready to compete.
And then Minnesota they lose Kirk Cousins questions at the
QB position with McCarthy and Darnold, but also a roster
that topped the bottom is still pretty damn good. Yeah, So,
you know, the potential for cannibalism in division is absolutely fascinating.
Speaker 4 (08:46):
What's fascinating about the NFC North is very quickly the
whole division has been gentrified. You know, if you remember,
for years and years and years it was basically Rogers.
Occasionally you would get a Kirk Cousins Vikings run or
surge where they looked like a playoff contender or even
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did break through as a wild card. But it was
it was Rogers, the mayor of Chicago living in Green Bay, Wisconsin.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
You know, not that I didn't experience that. I mean,
I go back to Don mccowski. That was still happened
to me, except for one year. You know, every once
in a while they'd make the playoffs. But yeah, your
your point is well taken.
Speaker 4 (09:26):
But in just three years, think about everything that's happened
in just three years. The Detroit Lions are according to
the DraftKings list he gave us odds on favorites to
be you know, second place pointskeetters in the all of
the the NFL, and Jared Goff is an absolute star
in Motor City. You have Jordan Love replacing Aaron Rodgers.
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You have Chicago moving off of Justin Fields onto their
first of all draft pick with Caleb Williams, and the
Vikings look all of a sudden, they're they're in the caboose.
If we're gonna be honest, like in terms of prospects
of having a successful.
Speaker 5 (10:05):
Season, but who knows.
Speaker 4 (10:07):
I mean JJ McCarthy potentially if he turns into what
Jim Harbaugh prophesied.
Speaker 5 (10:15):
Him to be.
Speaker 4 (10:16):
I mean, this could be a complete gentrification of NFC North,
and it happened so so quickly.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
Turned it over immensely as you go through. I think
the Lions one of the curious things. I thought. I
read somewhere either thirteen or fourteen of their games are domed. Yeah, yeah, right,
so they get a little bit of that love we did,
you know, talking about Joe Burrow with the scheduling and
maybe the second by as an eighteen game play eighteenth
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game comes to the regular season. You know, the thing
that spirals down for me is when you go team
for team again doing some of the fantasy analysis, but
also taking the look at the NFL landscape and trying
to look at the EBB and flow of team schedules.
Is how back cloded some teams are with division games,
which I think is nonsensical. And maybe that extra bye
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week will help clear some of that up. Rich I mean, yeah,
I think those should be spread out a little bit,
given the fact that we have such a battle and
war of attrition that goes on health wise, and if
you just happen to have the trainer and football gods
on your side a little bit that maybe you get
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your injuries early and then guys are back for the
stretch run. I mean, I don't know that the schedule
should work quite so well to your advantage that way
within division, but I get it. It's a long, arduous
task with a lot of permutations that have to be
evaluated when you're talking about travel and those national dates
of trying to keep the best teams available. But you know,
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that's another angle that comes into the play here, is
trying to figure out schedule watching you know, what you're
doing down the stretch.
Speaker 4 (11:57):
I think that throughout the course of the NFL season,
so much is so variable that you know, and don't
get me wrong, I understand that betting houses need to
put lines on things. I understand that there is interest
in futures, and that's the reason why we speculate here,
you know, just under sixty days out from kickoff of
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the regular season.
Speaker 5 (12:21):
But the reality is so much changes so quickly.
Speaker 4 (12:24):
Teams who were basement dwellers in their division can rocket
to the top of the NFL from a year over year,
and likewise we can see teams that appeared to be
juggernauts one year, fall from grace the very next season,
and you just don't know when it's gonna happen. So
strength of schedule and how even even divisional matchups toward
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the end of the season look like they're gonna bear out.
Speaker 5 (12:54):
They don't always tell.
Speaker 4 (12:55):
The story or and in fact, I'll go as far
to say they absolutely don't tell the story in the preseason,
because you got to see how things shake out. Sometimes
a division that looks great on paper, you know, due
to injury or poor play or a system not gelling
quite the right way, all of a sudden looks like
a cakewalk. So maybe some of the easiest competition a
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team will face down the stretch of their season is
within their own division. It's just so difficult and so
variable to put your finger on these things. When we're
talking about it in early July.
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minutes from now as we continue. But talk about drama
in big d Dallas Cowboys always in the news, one
of those hyper global brands. When I was overseas this
past couple of weeks here Rich I was wearing a
Bears pullover, found out there's a really large number of
Lions fans in London. That was kind of weird, kind
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of cool though, you know, being stopped on the train
by a bunch of guys who are if you're in
the States, maybe you're feeling like, hey, this could go
south on me. They're drunk and you know, they're mocking
the Bears and whatever, and then we start having a
football conversation here. You know, might have ended badly. Maybe
I just wanted to be you know, come out swinging.
But there it became, you know, haha, let's talk about
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Bears and Lions for twenty twenty four. So you know,
football previews on the train, but also you see the
Dallas Cowboys star no matter where you go. So they
got two stories running in parallel. Michael Michael Parsons the
third star unsigned as of now. It was quiet at
least from what I saw today. So we've got first
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Dak Prescott yep in the walking Brout Walky Boot and saying,
quote literally it's absolutely nothing. I'm just a little bit
older maintenance, all of those kind of things. Also says, hey,
the money will work itself out. It always has. So
a lot of conversation about that. Meanwhile, holding a football
(16:24):
camp ceedee, Lamb refused to talk to the team website
well because the interview was quote about any topic, including
the camp from the website. He said, yeah, no, I'm
good cause you gotta talk about contract, you gotta talk
about you know, where you're at and all of that process.
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So he said, no, I'll leave that alone. Wait, on
social media he talked about that a little bit as well.
Speaker 4 (16:52):
I didn't I didn't see this story. So he turned
down an interview with like the Cowboys in house reporter.
Speaker 3 (17:01):
Or with the media the media in general, okay and
reported you know, he said on on social media, Yeah,
I'm not answering questions about that. So chick Chuger youth
at this camp in round Rock on Tuesday, he declined
an interview request about any topic, including the camp from
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Nick Harris of the team's website, so basically said no,
I'm not doing.
Speaker 4 (17:26):
That, okay, but specifically, So that's interesting because I don't
know if he spoke to any other members of the media.
Speaker 5 (17:32):
I mean, we could probably.
Speaker 4 (17:34):
You know, set our dogs on this here at the
vast network of Fox Sports Radio and find out if
he did, you know, speak out to the press in
any significant way during this this football camp. But the
fact that he turned down the team's website, it's just
another brick on the wall.
Speaker 5 (17:51):
It's just another gesture towards the front.
Speaker 4 (17:54):
Office to the team, like, if you're not going to
do business with me, I'm not gonna do business with you.
Speaker 5 (18:02):
And you know what my demands are.
Speaker 4 (18:04):
We all saw what Justin Jefferson got paid, and we
all understand what I'm looking to be paid. And so
just to make sure we're all still under the same
you know, guidelines that we were prior to me going
out into the community and doing something nice with a
bunch of kids from the Dallas area, we're still not
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doing business together until the contract's written. So that's interesting
that he turned down an interview with Cowboys dot Com
writer whoever.
Speaker 3 (18:34):
Yeah, Nick Harris, and you know from what I can
do in my rudimentary search, and I did this earlier,
but you know, revisiting in case anything was posted in
the late hour, finding nothing except when he had said,
you know, in his Twitter response to someone teasing ahead, hey,
his camp, it might be the first time that he
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addressed his contract negotiations, and he just wrote back to
that saying, yeah, you'll get no answers from me on that.
So that that's where we're at at this point. Ceedee Lamb.
On one hand, just hey, I'm not even talking about
it at this point because you've seen other top wide
receivers get paid and clearly wants to stand in line
and says, hey, look put my resume up against those,
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but keeping quiet about it. With Dak, he's taking the
you know, the pro's pro approach of hey, it'll work
itself out behind the scenes, I'm sure feverishly trying to
figure things out. Does he have a future here? Some
have already said, hey, they're they're looking at Trey Lance
a lot and hoping that he can become the guy
and that maybe this is the swan song. With Dak,
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we start talking about franchise tags. Probably is you only
get one of those, and you got three guys that
you got to figure out well the contracts on.
Speaker 4 (19:48):
And that's that's the question I want to ask you
when so put yourself in Stephen Jones and Jerry Jones's
shoes and ask yourself this question. Mikehpar's ceedee, lamb Dak Prescott?
Who is the priority? Who do you absolutely need to
make sure is under contract or tagged for the upcoming
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season because you can't live without him?
Speaker 5 (20:14):
Who is the priority?
Speaker 3 (20:15):
I come down, you know, and not the biggest Dak
Prescott fan, but quarterbacks don't grow on trees. And while
you may not love him, you're gonna be just good
enough no matter what I mean. Look at what they've
done the last three regular seasons. Yep, right, they haven't
gotten over, but they won thirteen games three straight years.
Are you gonna be in a position where you can
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go and draft someone as that replacement? And what's your
success rate even in that draft?
Speaker 5 (20:42):
Right?
Speaker 3 (20:42):
We just went through the process of Trevor Lawrence as
the last man standing from a draft class just a
couple of years old. Everybody else has been moved down
and become a backup trying to hang on in the league.
Speaker 5 (20:55):
It's such a good point.
Speaker 4 (20:56):
And when you look at Dak Prescott and you think
about how fortunate the the Dallas Cowboys were, Tony Romo
wasn't a bad quarterback. Tony Romo was a very talented
quarterback who did some mind boggling things in really important
moments for the franchise, specifically in the postseason. You know,
Dak Prescott his what is it, two to five record
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in the playoffs, it's not good enough. But also, you know,
and I hate to pose this argument, but it's really
hard to get to the playoffs in the NFL, and
he's done that.
Speaker 5 (21:32):
He's appeared in seven playoff games.
Speaker 4 (21:35):
You know, I don't want to sit here, and you know,
and and get all weepy over mediocrity and and I,
but but let's let's be very honest with each other.
A football game isn't won by a singular player, even
though that singular player on every roster is the most
important player. You need to have a full team available,
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and you need to have those those players who are
available playing at a very high level. You know, so
if your defense stops some more than they don't well
that that really aids in a lot of those victories.
If you're your running back or your receiver or your
returner doesn't fumble the football, which you know those occurrences
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will happen across the season and certainly in the postseason, well,
you have a better chance of winning a football game.
You know, it hasn't to say it hasn't only been
Dak is just a cursor research away on Pro Football
Reference to realize that he hasn't been the problem in
the majority of the postseason games he's appeared in.
Speaker 5 (22:36):
So what is the problem?
Speaker 4 (22:38):
I mean, is it coaching? You've been through a couple
since Dak's been around, you know, is it? Is it
the complimentary cast? Dak's played with a lot of good players,
and he's had some really talented offensive lines. So if
you were going to diagnose, since you're saying Dak's the priority,
what the problem with Dak and the Cowboys are in
his tenure.
Speaker 5 (22:58):
Not being able to get over the perf verbial hump?
What is the problem?
Speaker 3 (23:02):
Well, I would say from that wild card game, if
we just want to take it and localize it to
one year, that defense was absolutely shredded from pillar to post.
Speaker 5 (23:10):
Yeah, there you got.
Speaker 3 (23:10):
It's nothing to stop it. And look Mike McCarthy for
a lot of the success that he's had. And this
is what I get into with Sean Payton and others
that we've put genius tags on guys. You know those
are long ago with very specific sets of circumstances and
people that took you over right, I e. A great
quarterback that was there on the field as a decision
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maker and who took the reins right, go back to
Drew Brees with Peyton. You look at what McCarthy had
with the Aaron Rodgers tenure and a lot of the
the gaffes that we see in late game decision making,
play calling, whatever. Again, we don't know what's drawn up.
We can only work from what we find out and
the questions that we ask and what we get to
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watch on tape. Right, you with a much more discerning
eye having played in the league with some expectations based
on the offense that you were part of, certainly in
New England for those years. Rich but you know from
where I sit, you know they didn't have a prayer
and offensively, look, Dak, I think got more of a
free pass this last year than he should have. But
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for the largesse of his career. Yeah, criticized over the top.
Tony Romo was an undrafted pre agent out of the
Eastern Illinois right when he started, right when he took
the reins and had a nice run. And Dak when
he came in to the starting job, look at what
he inherited, that run game, that massive offensive line. All
the pieces were in place there for great success. And
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roster wise, they take a lot of gambles, especially on
the defensive side of things these last couple of years,
and in the playoffs. I mean you had Jordan Love
just to viscerate him.
Speaker 5 (24:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (24:50):
I look at Dak and the Dallas Cowboys and I well,
actually I should say all the stars, right, Mike Parson,
Ceedee Lamb, Dak Prescott, you know, I mean there have
been many others throughout his tenure, even during his time,
you know Zeke at one point during his.
Speaker 5 (25:11):
Time with the Cowboys.
Speaker 4 (25:12):
But but the thing that stands out to me the
most is sometimes ownership can get in the way of progress,
and I think Jerry Jones in some ways is guilty
of that.
Speaker 5 (25:26):
Now.
Speaker 4 (25:26):
I think Jerry goes out of his way to make
his players as comfortable as possible in Dallas at times.
You know, certainly their facilities are you know, top notch
grade A. Certainly he's going to you know, pay his favorites,
and he absolutely you know, joins in in the course
of support for his star players, and he matches that
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support with dollar signs. He's done that throughout the course
of his his tenure as an owner.
Speaker 5 (25:53):
Also, he's been unusually loyal to many of his churches.
Speaker 4 (25:59):
Yeah, you know, so there's that right, you know, how
loyal is too loyal to head coaches because it was
years and years and years and years of the Jason
Garrett experience. And I'm not going to say that he
isn't a talented or smart football mind. But Jason Garrett,
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it's not like people were knocking each other over to
hire him after he left Dallas, you know. And and
it wasn't like Dallas was an absolute disaster when he
was let go. You know, Mike McCarthy takes over and
they're they're successful because like I said, Dallas wasn't a.
Speaker 5 (26:40):
Disaster when when Jason Garrett was let go.
Speaker 4 (26:44):
But Jason Garrett wasn't like the bell of the ball
on the coaching hiring circuit. So you know, now you
bring in Mike McCarthy and I kind of have the
same feeling about Mike McCarthy.
Speaker 5 (26:54):
I'm a little bit lukewarm. It's it's just like, is
that the guy? Like is that?
Speaker 4 (27:00):
You know? I realized Houston was in absolute shambles before
they hired Demiko Ryans. You know, same with the Detroit
Lions hiring Dan Campbell. But when is Jerry Jones going
to pull the plug on a head coach and really
hit it with a great head coach, a young, upstart
guy who really has hunger and some chops and he's
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going to take a little bit of a risk and
it's gonna work out for him.
Speaker 5 (27:28):
Jerry hasn't done that in decades.
Speaker 3 (27:30):
Well since Jimmy Johnson.
Speaker 5 (27:33):
Since Jimmy Johnson, I mean, I mean.
Speaker 3 (27:35):
We're talking thirty years ago. Yeah, that's why I argued
after the lost to Green Bay, it's time to bring
Jimmy Johnson back. He did that locker room speech or
whatever else. Bring him back in. Yeah, let's rile it up.
You know, when the Lakers had their coaching opening before
the Hurly Dallions whatever that was, and now the JJ Redick.
I'm like Goy convinced pat Riley that he doesn't want
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to be in Miami anymore. Hire him back, let's fill
you action work remotely from his TPE or whatever he's
got going on in the desert. By that, Let's let's
go back and re establish those cultures. Jerry doesn't want
a guy that's gonna fight with him, right, He's not
gonna bring back a Bill Parcels. He's not gonna bring
back Jimmy Johnson.
Speaker 4 (28:16):
And Frankly, I don't even know if that's the move, Mike.
I mean, I I appreciate it would be. It would
be a change, it would be different, but it could
even be like, you know, I name him Ben Johnson.
It could be a Kevin O'Connell recently hired by the
Minnesota Vikings. It could be a Zach Taylor, you know.
It could be a Callahan, you know. I mean, it's
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just there's this comfort with experience at that position with
Jerry Jones, like he wants to hire a football man
who's been around the game, you know, or somebody home
grown like Jason Garrett to helm the Cowboys, and he
gives them a ton of leash you know, and and
a lot of other teams they earn they unearthed a
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rare find by taking the gamble on the coordinator who
hasn't done it at the pro level.
Speaker 5 (29:07):
Yet and has it and as an outsider to the system.
Speaker 4 (29:11):
Like look, you know, let's face it, it looks like
a genius move now, but the reality of the situation
is the forty nine Ers took a huge risk when
they pulled John Lynch out of the broadcast booth and
named him their general manager and hired a first time
head coach in Kyle Shanahan.
Speaker 5 (29:28):
I mean, like I said, they look like geniuses now, But.
Speaker 4 (29:30):
Jed York, the owner, the principal decision maker for the
forty nine ers, he had to have some Khonis. He
had to have a little stones to make a decision
like that. When is Jerry Jones going to make a
decision like that for his franchise? Because sometimes they flop,
but sometimes that is the voice, the tone setter, whatever
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you want to call it, that that takes a team
to the next level.
Speaker 3 (29:57):
Yeah, I'd always bugged me that victory lap at the
forty nine Ers took in the twenty seventeen draft, that
when they made that trade with the Bears, oh right,
and then they took Solomon Thomas because really they did
end up getting Fred Warner later in the in the draft,
and that worked out in terms of what was exchanged.
But the Saints actually did the best out of all
of that by picking up Alvin Kamara at the time,
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because remember, you know, Jimmy Garoppolo was fine, but you
know you took Solomon Thomas, he washed out. Yeah, so
you know that always just rubbed me the wrong way.
But all these years later, yeah, Lynch and the track
record and what that team has done and the continuit
and we talk about all the time, rich right, continuity
in the National Football League and your front office and
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your coaching staff is a good thing. In most cases.
Sometimes loyalty takes you down a path to where you're
kind of wandering in no man's land. And that's kind
of where it seems. The Cowboys are great regular season,
but money on the line still a step away, and
looks like we're ready for a repeat performance, because I
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got to imagine the Eagles don't collapse as they did
in twenty twenty three in quite the same fashion, right right,
Although losing Jason Kelce to Travis. You know, Travis and
Taylor Swift doesn't help.
Speaker 5 (31:14):
Yeah, well, listen, it absolutely does not.
Speaker 4 (31:17):
And Jason Kelcey anchored that offensive line for a young
quarterback for all the years he's been there, and not
a lot of people talk about focus on the relationship
that a young quarterback has with an experienced center, especially
one as durable and talented as Jason Kelcey, a shoe
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in first ballot Hall of Famer. It's going to be
a rough transition in some ways, although Kelsey, I think
was gracious enough during his final years and they do
pluralize that knowing that the end was coming to groom
his backup into being a capable starter, and so they
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will have some continuity there. At the same token, there's
no replacing greatness, you know, unless you're replacing greatness with greatness,
and it's hard to do at that level.
Speaker 3 (32:10):
He's Rich joorn Berger and for Jason Smith on Mike
Carmen The Jason Smith Show with Mike Harmon rolls on
drama at the Nathans Hot Dog Contest. But first it's
Brian Fenley with what's trending? Yeah, famly, Hey, what's going on?
Mike And Rich the Cubs as who look at Major
League Baseball. They won nine to two against the Orioles Dodgers.
They get flattened by the Phillies ten to one.
Speaker 7 (32:32):
Yankees. They are losers on the road five to three
against the Rays. Guardians in extra innings they get it
done nine to eight against the Tigers. Also wins for
the Pirates, Astros, and Rangers along with the Braves. And lastly,
according to ESPN, race shortstop Wander Franco has officially been
charged any Dominican Republic court with sexual abuse and sexual
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exploitation of a minor. With that, let's get it back
to Mike Carmon and Rich Hornberger.
Speaker 3 (32:59):
At Brian Fenley there you find him in the Twitter verse,
find me over at Swollen Doome, find Rich at Ornberger
and if you're up really early tomorrow morning, you listen
to him down in San Diego as they get things
going as well. More on his Twitter account, as well
as videos of him walking around with a flamethrower. And
he sent me a beautiful video about how he worked
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out his pork ribs over the fourth of July. It's
a beautiful thing. And coming up next we'll stay in
meat like products the Nathan's Hot Dog eating contest, and
we've got scandal cheating allegations and it involves one of
the biggest names in the game. That's next on five.
Speaker 2 (33:39):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
pm Pacific.
Speaker 3 (33:46):
Welcome back Fox Sports Radio Jason Smith Show with Me,
Mike Harmon, Rich Hornberger and for Jason Tonight coming up
in about fifteen minutes from now, we'll get into it's
in the game. Someone reverses and game players will be happy.
Let's talk about it from a larger scale. But Rich,
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we love competitive eating. You've been subjected, maybe subjected yourself
to a number of challenges as part of the morning
show down there in San Diego, that's right, and maybe
just general love of food and as an offensive lineman,
you know, you got to keep weight up, which means
sometimes the choice is made for you in terms of
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keeping weight on.
Speaker 4 (34:29):
I'm not gonna turn down an opportunity to devour some
delicious food, certainly not. But also the gauntlin has been
laid at my feet many times, you know, whether it
be hey, you know, let's see if anybody on this show,
can he eat fifty chicken nuggets in three hours?
Speaker 3 (34:48):
You know, Hey, did you see that yesterday Joey chestnutt
did two hundred boneless in less than thirty eight minutes.
Speaker 5 (34:55):
Yeah, I saw that. That was absolutely absurd. I mean,
he is a machine. He is he is a piece
of machinery. There is no other excuse. He's a robot.
Speaker 4 (35:04):
If they open him up, it's wiring and it's trash compactors.
Speaker 5 (35:07):
There's no question about it.
Speaker 4 (35:08):
But yeah, Like, the interesting thing about food challenges is
it feels like it's a very pure sport, like seafood
eat food. There's not much room for cheating. Although there
was a scandal at the Nathan's Famous hot dog eating
contests on the fourth of July.
Speaker 3 (35:30):
I saw this and I thought it would be right
up your alley. So here we are. And it has
big names involved, right, a lot of press tours because
they found love on the competitive eating circuit, Mickey Pseudo
and Nick Worry. That name is familiar. Why because he
became one of the betting favorites, and I believe actually
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the betting favorite once Chestnut was eliminated from the contest
because of his whatever beyond meat program and endorsement and
everything else. And he went and he did some stuff
with some servicemen and women and had a big event
there on the fourth of July. But you've got an
eating scandal that the inflation of his much like great inflation,
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is a real thing across campuses. You've got an inflation
of his final tally because he allegedly, according to multiple
sources telling the New York Post, stole plates. So he
was given a score of forty six point seventy five
hot dogs when they called it out on Coney Island. Okay,
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fourth place finish, fine, But then that figure became fifty
one point seventy five on the official Major League Eating
results website. So gave him a full five more hot dogs.
We're gonna use hot dogs here. It's not ten o'clock
yet that he actually served and finished during the competition.
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Because they tabulate based on the number of empty plates
stacked in front. Any debris left uneaten at the top,
it's a bun or straight hunks of beef as it's
laid out, the judges get to determine whether that counts
or not, and so they stack it out every plate
has five hot dogs on it, and he's accused of
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stealing plates from another competitors stack and putting them on
his own to get his score above fifty. So while
it didn't get him any higher in the standings, there's
just a you broke the fifty mark, which puts you
in rarefied air. And I gotta imagine anybody that had
any bets on over unders it probably had some effect
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there as well of the betting. So yeah, a big
deal here. The winner took down fifty eight, so a
good distancing from what Worry did. But I mean you
thought there would be honor among people gluttonizing and eating
enormous amounts of food. Clearly not no, no, And really,
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state of affairs for Worry or anybody who would perpetrate
such an offense on the such an affront on the
integrity of the game. I how does he look at
himself in the mirror?
Speaker 5 (38:14):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 4 (38:15):
Like, listen, I don't know what this is, you know,
comparable to? You know, is this the Is this the
thousand yard rushing mark for a running back in the NFL?
Is this a three hundred batting average season for a hitter?
Speaker 5 (38:31):
You know?
Speaker 4 (38:32):
Is this is this a twenty win season for a pitcher.
I don't know what to compare this to, but fifty
hot dogs at the eating contest. I mean, you got
to feel proud about that when it's earned on your
own merit. But if this, if this alleged plate stealer
has you know, etched himself into the halls, the hallowed
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halls of record keeping in the competitior of eating circuit,
and it is a fraud.
Speaker 5 (39:03):
Shame, shame, shame on you. Worry. I don't even know
what to say, Mike.
Speaker 4 (39:09):
I'm sad, honestly, I think that's why I'm not I'm
not even sad.
Speaker 5 (39:14):
I'm just disappointed.
Speaker 3 (39:16):
Oh you went full dad more on him. There's the
bell of shame that comes in. I'm not even mad,
I'm disappointing.
Speaker 5 (39:25):
I can't believe him.
Speaker 3 (39:26):
Your kids are young enough that you might not have
been able to use that one too often.
Speaker 4 (39:29):
You I haven't gotten there yet, Like you know, we're
still My oldest is nine, my youngest is turned in
six this weekend, and and we're very much though still
in the phase where we're testing boundaries.
Speaker 5 (39:40):
We're trying to figure.
Speaker 4 (39:40):
Out exactly how dumb dad is you know, so, like,
what can I hide from him that I know I'm
not supposed to be doing when his uh you know,
watchful eyes are are you know, you know, hanging.
Speaker 5 (39:54):
Around like but that?
Speaker 4 (39:55):
But you know, I mean we're just not into the
serious game yet. Certainly, certainly, Mike, if there's one thing
that I will refuse to allow my son to do,
should he ever ever appear on a fourth of July,
dais amongst other greats, is steel plates and fraudulently support
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the idea that he ate more sausages, Frankfooter's gastro tubes
of meat whatever than the next man.
Speaker 5 (40:29):
If he didn't actually eat those dogs.
Speaker 3 (40:31):
Especially when you were training him with the copious amounts
of meat you have provided, if your grilling efforts through
the years you have trained him.
Speaker 5 (40:40):
Well, no, you said it, You said it all right there.
Speaker 3 (40:43):
I mean there was there was a scandal in nineteen
ninety eight. Guy had nineteen hot dogs in twelve minutes.
Knakajima of Japan. His primary competitor, a guy named Ed
the Animal Cratchy, said that he took muscle relaxers to
give him an edge. How about that? Wow, he's accusing
him of cheating, So scandal alright. Arch Manning finally ops
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