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August 16, 2025 • 40 mins

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Speaker 2 (00:23):
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Speaker 3 (00:30):
Meet the Mets, Meet the Mets.

Speaker 4 (00:34):
Can crud at this point, Frostburg met the Mets.

Speaker 3 (00:40):
A ben suck with the Mets.

Speaker 5 (00:43):
What what you say?

Speaker 6 (00:54):
The Mets got big, dumped on eh TJ Cal hitting
that one all the way to Raley, North Carolina.

Speaker 4 (01:05):
Yeah, the matter.

Speaker 1 (01:06):
It's a nightly headline. Now the Mets lost. Yes, it's
a nightly headline. Mets lose, Mets find a way to lose.
That's every single night, every night. I really, I know
what you think they're ever going to win again? They're
never gonna win depending on your perspective. They're fourteen and
two in their last sixteen games. Okay, how's that perspective
if you're rooting for them to lose?

Speaker 6 (01:24):
Correct?

Speaker 4 (01:25):
Oh? Okay, if you're a.

Speaker 6 (01:26):
Red Strosburg is fourteen and two over the last sixteen games.

Speaker 4 (01:32):
You're my best friend. You're rooting for them to lose.
You're my best friend.

Speaker 6 (01:35):
Did I say that? I was?

Speaker 4 (01:37):
I know you see.

Speaker 6 (01:37):
You seem to be implying it makes for it makes
for a.

Speaker 4 (01:40):
Better story, the kind of imply. No, it's not.

Speaker 1 (01:43):
It's not a better story. Sure, better stories. Mets winning
every game.

Speaker 6 (01:46):
You're meltdown ahead of Jets season, knowing that that's going
to follow in rapid succession. This is like watching U
Shakespearean play.

Speaker 1 (01:54):
No, dude, what do I always say? The Mets have
to get into the Jets. They've done it now. It's
an awful dovetail and dive, but clearly they used everything
they could just to get here. So okay, and the
Jets this year, just have to get me to the
Knicks because this is the of all my teams, this
is this is the championship season for the Knicks.

Speaker 4 (02:14):
Like this is it, man, this is the year.

Speaker 1 (02:16):
Just gotta get me to the Knicks, and then the
Knicks and get me the Knicks, get me all the
way back to the Mets in April.

Speaker 4 (02:21):
It's fine, the Knicks are great. It's great.

Speaker 1 (02:27):
Everything's fine. No, it's I'm good man, It's good. You know,
you're the only thing to stay with the Jets. Okay,
if the Jets somehow start like oh to four, then
I'm like, boy, October is gonna suck.

Speaker 4 (02:36):
Man, this is.

Speaker 1 (02:37):
Gonna be a long month. All right, how are the
next preseason games going. Let's let's take a look.

Speaker 6 (02:42):
That's the big thing, right, because to get to the Knicks,
we're still talking about getting you that halfway through the
NFL season by week eight or have you thrown in
the towel on that season so you don't even get
to the Knicks. That is where the drama comes in
as it stands now with the Mets, this is like,
you know you're to mix the sports. You're sprinting towards

(03:04):
the end zone and your your dive comes up just short,
or you decide, hey, I'm sliding in with style because
I am a baseball player. They say, well, you actually
began your slide before the goal line, so the ball
is placed here and the clock's expired. That's kind of
where we're at for you.

Speaker 4 (03:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (03:24):
Meanwhile, it was Kershaw Day, so I mean.

Speaker 4 (03:26):
I'm feeling I'm feeling okay with.

Speaker 1 (03:28):
With the with with the the handoff, with the relay.

Speaker 6 (03:31):
Here, I'm feeling okay with that. If you didn't drop
the baton.

Speaker 1 (03:34):
I don't think no, the Jets could drop the again.
The Jets start zero and four, I'm like, wow, great,
but it's just October. That would stink. Next play at
the end, I mean, it's it's it's gonna we all call.
We played the Steelers Week one. We're gonna win that game.
We're gonna kill We're gonna kill them. We're gonna win
that game like sixteen ten. We're gonna crush them. Oh,
I don't feel bad about that.

Speaker 6 (03:51):
Wow, you're predicting the demise of Aaron Rodgers, your former quarterback.

Speaker 4 (03:56):
Just like that. Yeah. I look, and I loved him
so much the last two years.

Speaker 1 (04:01):
And I find and I kind of get, like, you know,
seeing Frostburg now the last few nights, I kind of
get nights where he's feeling a little bit extra salty
is because he's watching the Chiefs get absolutely pounded by
the Seahawks. Anytime something anti Chiefs happens, like that's like
the biggest it.

Speaker 4 (04:18):
Like Frostburg, like his mood everything, Just.

Speaker 3 (04:20):
Just see he's mistaken there.

Speaker 4 (04:22):
Wow, am I mistaken? You said?

Speaker 3 (04:23):
I'm watching?

Speaker 1 (04:25):
Oh all right, you're following watching trash, You're following on
the internet.

Speaker 5 (04:29):
Are you wore a Drew.

Speaker 3 (04:31):
Lock jersey into work tonight? You're an absolute liar.

Speaker 4 (04:33):
He's got two touchdowns. I mean, so you picked the
right knight to wear it.

Speaker 3 (04:36):
But wow, you're underpants back on the right way.

Speaker 1 (04:39):
I mean, Seattle quarterbacks tonight against the Chiefs are fourteen
out of sixteen for one hundred and sixty three yards.

Speaker 4 (04:45):
And two touchdowns.

Speaker 1 (04:46):
And this is Drew Lock and Sam Darnold, right, I mean,
this is this is a this is a night man.
If you if you don't like the Chiefs, if you're
mad at the end the Heights podcast doing so well
in Taylor Swift, he is.

Speaker 7 (04:57):
Calmer than you are, actually calmer than you are. I
wasn't mad, ever.

Speaker 4 (05:01):
You're excited. Was mad?

Speaker 3 (05:03):
Well, yeah, don't put false stuff out there.

Speaker 4 (05:06):
When did I say you were mad?

Speaker 3 (05:07):
You just said that.

Speaker 4 (05:09):
When did I say you were mad?

Speaker 3 (05:10):
You literally just said those words.

Speaker 4 (05:12):
I did not say that.

Speaker 3 (05:13):
Now you want me to run it back, No, yeah, no,
I didn't say I didn't say yeah. If we were
recording your voice. But I wouldn't be able.

Speaker 4 (05:18):
To do that, but we weren't. I knew it.

Speaker 1 (05:23):
So yeah, So Seahawks lead the Chiefs thirty to ten,
although a big night for Gardner Minshew, who was seven
out of nine for seventy yards in a touchdown tonight.

Speaker 4 (05:31):
So you know Gardener Minshew did, I'm telling you? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (05:35):
Why do I Why do I have a feeling like
we're gonna see Gardner Minshew playing quarterback in big moments
of a couple of big games.

Speaker 3 (05:41):
This year hopefully?

Speaker 1 (05:42):
Why could I just see that he's out there in
his jorts and he's throwing You know, hey, I didn't
think I was playing today, so I didn't put my
pads on.

Speaker 4 (05:49):
So I'm gonna wear my jorts when I play. Like
I could see that for Garden.

Speaker 6 (05:53):
It's a full hero to keep the line moving.

Speaker 4 (05:55):
I can see it now.

Speaker 1 (05:56):
Look so again, minute thirty five to go in the
third quarter here Seahawks on top of it. Looked big
start for Sam Darnold faru to four for thirty four yards,
so big night for him. Zach Charbonay as well, forty
five yards rushing.

Speaker 4 (06:08):
In a touchdown.

Speaker 1 (06:09):
But there's some teams this weekend where quarterbacks really have
a ton at stake. Right, we talked about Caleb Williams
last hour. We got into the Colts quarterback Derby, which
is gonna end tomorrow night, and it's gonna end with
Daniel Jones playing well enough to win the job. But
there's a couple of other guys out there where things

(06:30):
are gonna be really interesting this weekend. Now you mentioned
the Jets. Okay, Jackson Dart is gonna play a ton
tomorrow against the Jets. The Snoopy Bowl is always a
big deal, right, doesn't matter? Well, it doesn't matter that
it's a preseason game. The Snoopy Bowl is always a
big game. I'm gonna Rex Ryan going to the Wall
to win the Bleep and Snoopy Bowl, And I'm like, dude,

(06:50):
come on, man, it's a pre s Why do we
care so much about winning? That doesn't matter. It doesn't matter.
But Jets Giants is a big deal, one of the
high profile games. If Jackson Dart plays well again, and
he played well last week in his debut for the Giants,
and everything we've seen so far, everything I've been reading
and people I talk to, so yeah, Dart looks really

(07:11):
good a little bit more than your quintessential rookie. He
looks like he's not afraid to make the big throws.
He's confident in his decisions. He's just growing every single day.
If he plays great against the Jets, because this is
probably gonna be the last time we see him play
any extended time, because you get to the last preseason game,
that's really when you see all the you know, you

(07:32):
don't see many teams go with with with guys that
are going to be on the active roster and playing.
This is where, hey, we let our battles play out.
We don't want anybody get hurt in the last preseason game.
Jackson Dart plays great against the Jets, he accelerates his
timeline to be the starting quarterback over Russell Wilson. Nothing's
gonna happen that's gonna stop Wilson from starting the season right.

(07:53):
Barring injury. Russell Wilson's going to start the year right.
Whether it's a I feel like every team that acquires
Russell Wilson have some kind of blood that he's got
to start these now what he's healthy, he's gotta play.
Wilson's gonna start and as Russell Wilson goes like last year,
He'll be fine for a few weeks and then all
of a sudden, the wheels are gonna fall off, right,

(08:13):
And I said, you know, we're thinking about week ten
is when Jackson Dart's gonna wind up playing.

Speaker 6 (08:18):
Right.

Speaker 1 (08:19):
This gives Russell Wilson enough time to start the season
play functional. Uh, you know, plays he as good functionally
for a little while before he really hits the skids,
and then his season's gonna end on the bench, right,
which which which is awful for Russell Wilson. But you
know it's gonna end on the bench because Jackson Dart's
a first round pick and he's gonna play at some
point this year. Russell Wilson's not suddenly. Oh look at

(08:42):
what he did. All he had to do is find
the rights. Is that no, the Giants stink they're starting over.
They got to see what they have in Jackson Dart.
And again, first round quarterbacks always play. But if Jackson
Dart has a big game against the Jets, this would
now be Hey, we've seen him under the bright lights
a couple of times and he showed that he can
handle it that accelerate that timeline to the point where

(09:04):
I don't know that Russell Wilson, it's out of the
first six weeks as the Giants starting quarterback before starting
Jackson Dart becomes something that has to happen again. It's
not like it was with the Steelers last year where
for some reason Mike Tomlin felt I am so beholden
to Russell Wilson that no matter what the team is doing,
we're winning, and Justin Fields isn't turning the ball over

(09:24):
and he's making plays, it doesn't matter. I'm going back
to Russell Wilson. And he went back to Russell Wilson
and he patted himself on the back. Yeah, look out good.
And then Russell Wilson is awful the final month of
the season, month plus the season, and they needed a
different quarterback. Russell Wilson's not coming into that situation with
the Giants where it's, hey, we blindly are going.

Speaker 4 (09:42):
To be loyal to him.

Speaker 1 (09:43):
They're gonna be loyal to him just long enough until
they have to go to Jackson Dart because Brian Dable, Josh,
these guys know, I need to save my job. I
want to be the head coach of Jackson Dart and
Malik neighbors and Cam Scatibow and everything else. Next year,
I want to be here, right, Mike Tomlin, he's not.
It wasn't worried about his job last year, So yeah,
I can make the quarterback decision as I want to.

Speaker 4 (10:03):
Nothing's gonna happen.

Speaker 1 (10:05):
They know they gotta win and they want to be
the guy, so they know at some point Jackson Dart
has to play because because Brian Dables got a show. Hey,
I'm the guy for Jackson Dart. Great, we keep Brian
even though we didn't win enough games. Jackson Dart was
really good. Dart says, I love playing here in New York.
I love coach b He's awesome. So there's gonna be
that part as well. But it gets really it jumps

(10:29):
up fast. If he has a big night to night
against the Jets again. I don't know that Russell Wilson
gets out of the first six weeks if he plays
well tomorrow against New York.

Speaker 6 (10:37):
Yeah, I think it was you looked at it, and
the point you made towards the end about Dabel and
Shane is really where it gets down to it. Right,
how much do you expect out of this Giants team
to perform. Remember, Mike Tomlin sounded a lot like Denzel
Washington and what we did yesterday. You got to listen
to the whole show. Go back and listen to the
podcast of I could you know throw in the ring?

(10:58):
I could do this. Mike Tomlin with Russell Wilson was like, well,
that's why I get paid the big bucks. And then
when it all went to hell, he got kind of
quiet about all that down, didn't he. But you look
at the way the schedule starts off. You've got Washington, Dallas,
Kansas City, and the Chargers are weeks one through four.
That doesn't line up very well for old Russ Wilson
and whoever starts as they get off the jump. Then

(11:21):
you get New Orleans is week five before you have, oh,
I don't know, two games in three weeks against Philadelphia.
Good luck with that.

Speaker 1 (11:29):
So you're looking at a very difficult run and eventually
you've got to try to make the argument that you
can bring the.

Speaker 6 (11:35):
Kid along to save your jobs. You've got a guy
in Malik Neighbors that proof of concept, great great receiver
no matter who's throwing on the ball. Tracy last year
was really good. Yeah he's not Saquon Barkley, but who is.
So you had a couple of building blocks to where
you move forward, and now you've got to see what

(11:56):
the kid is like. He had a lot of college starts,
a lot of college success, so the opportunities there to
roll them out. You know that Game three against Kansas City. Curiously,
Rashi Rice won't have any kind of disciplinary discussions until
the end of the month, just the way the NFL
is operating, so they'll face a full compliment there. So

(12:18):
all of that to say, you're gonna be in the
hole pretty fast. And if I remember correctly, what was
the over under five and a half. So yeah, go
figure out what the kids got, try to salvage your
jobs and say, hey, here's at least our three man
building block with a stud at each of those positions
and a pretty good defense.

Speaker 1 (12:37):
Yeah, I mean, look, the Giants, obviously they're going to
rely on their defense. Has been a lot of talking
this week with the Giants defensive line and the Jets,
and it's.

Speaker 4 (12:46):
Gonna be a fun night tomorrow night.

Speaker 1 (12:48):
But ah telling you, the more time that goes on,
the more attention there is on Jackson Dart and Russell
Wilson is just a guy, right Like. That's the other
difference between last year and this year is last year
in training camp, Russell Wilson was the guy coming in
and yes him and Justin Fields, but obviously Wilson coming
off of Denver wasn't.

Speaker 4 (13:04):
Quite the distressed property that he was.

Speaker 1 (13:07):
So yes, Wilson playing, but then he gets hurt, right,
so he's out and Fields is getting reps. But it
was all about Russell Wilson. None of it's about Russell Wilson.
Giants camp this year. Every day headline in New York
post Jackson, Dark Jackson, Dark Jackson, Dart. It's a complete
different thing for Wilson this year.

Speaker 6 (13:21):
But that's just it. You're back into the same throes
of last year, except you don't have the tag of
Tomlin saying, look, I'm a genius. I got this guy
off the scrap heap at Denver, paid off all of
his salary. So you wanted to show how smart you
were and how much your true trusted the veterans, which
is a Tomlin way of doing things, no question about it.
The Giants are not beholden to the same thing. And

(13:42):
you're another year removed from when Russ was you know,
what's that word I'm looking for good? Good?

Speaker 1 (13:48):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's been I don't know that it's
more than I think it's. I think it's a little
bit removed from when Russell Wilson was last good.

Speaker 4 (13:59):
It's a little bit more than.

Speaker 6 (14:01):
Folks a couple of years ago could point to some
stats like he put up decent stats in Denver. Go
back and give it the eye test and watch those
games and tell me that what you saw in the
box score matched what you saw in the actual gameplay
no chance.

Speaker 1 (14:17):
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(14:40):
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What the hell are you doing out studio?

Speaker 3 (15:44):
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The Mets were good team. Now they're terrible doing this again.
They'll never win a game again. They're a bad team, all.

Speaker 7 (16:13):
Right, I'm talking about them.

Speaker 1 (16:17):
The Jason Smith Show with Mike Harmon, Live from the
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Speaker 4 (16:26):
Well pitch game, both teams. Four hits for the Dodgers,
three for the Padres.

Speaker 1 (16:30):
Padres saying blank, you guys, here comes Mason Miller in
the bottom of the eighth.

Speaker 4 (16:34):
Of a game. They're losing by a run. So again,
Dodgers lead the Padres. Buy a run.

Speaker 3 (16:40):
You know how bad the Mets are, Jason?

Speaker 4 (16:42):
How about the Mets?

Speaker 7 (16:43):
Justin They're so bad they remind me of Jerry Harriston's
hair piece.

Speaker 1 (16:51):
Wow, wow, Okay, it's a lot of speciality, justin Frost.
Here's the thing, though, Rope, is he wrong? You're doing
the old Sam Kinnison?

Speaker 4 (17:09):
Is he right? Is he right?

Speaker 6 (17:11):
I shuckle?

Speaker 4 (17:13):
You can get on coming.

Speaker 1 (17:16):
Okay, the Mets are pretty bad Mets a I don't know, man.
Fourteen out of sixteen and doesn't look like they're ever
gonna win again. Yeah, I'll say the Mets. That's how
bad it leave it on the Mets.

Speaker 5 (17:26):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (17:26):
Now things bad, but could be worse for Michigan as
finally the Michigan sign stealing scandal Connor Stallion story is
over as Michigan gets fined twenty million dollars and their
head coach Sean Moore is getting a two game suspension
this year and a one game suspension next year.

Speaker 4 (17:49):
That's it.

Speaker 1 (17:49):
There's no more discipline, no more anything for Michigan. This
sign stealing scandal gate that's been three bleeping years is
now over. Finally our long nightmare is at an end again.
Michigan gets a fine of twenty million dollars. Sewan Moore
is gonna miss games three and four of this season

(18:09):
Central Michigan and Nebraska. Congratulations Nebraska year, you're in the
park with your part with Central Michigan.

Speaker 6 (18:14):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (18:15):
And then opening week next year, which potentially he could
be missing an international game as Michigan is negotiating to
open up next year against Western Michigan. I believe in Berlin,
so that could be a game that that that would
be the game that Sean Moore would miss next year.
But now this is finally over. We got more details
of the probe today. Connor Stallions was calling the entire operation.

(18:38):
They were all KGB operatives and they couldn't get any
of the information from him because he broke his phone and.

Speaker 4 (18:44):
Threw it in a lake.

Speaker 1 (18:45):
And apparently you can't get it off of fun I
see a TV shows all the time.

Speaker 4 (18:48):
Doesn't matter. They can still pull it off your phone.

Speaker 1 (18:50):
No no, no, no, no, break and throw the lake and
ed doesn't Now you can't get it Connor Stown and Rice.
He outsmarted the entire stigatory arm of the NCAAA in
a fly by night, fly by the seat of your
pants operation. Connor Stallion's outsmarted the NCAAA to the point
where now Michigan doesn't have any probation, don't have to

(19:12):
give back a championship nup, it's twenty million dollars in
Sean Morgan's a couple of games suspension.

Speaker 6 (19:17):
Nice and easy showing once again, the NCAA at this
point doesn't have a whole lot of juice. They don't
have subpoena power, so working with the phone companies is
not in process here. You have to take folks at
their word. Jim Harbaugh wouldn't cooperate. Right, That's the the
overall speech to all of this is, nobody would corroborate, cooperate,

(19:42):
et cetera. You get the show. Cause so you have
to go and do the whole red from Shawshank begging
if you want to go back to college football. Guess what,
Jim Harbaugh is not walking back through that door, and
he certainly isn't changing his tune now.

Speaker 4 (19:57):
Walking through our door right now.

Speaker 1 (19:59):
Nobody I had to chop this up with than the
editor proprietor Grand Pooba of College Footballnews dot com. You're
one stop shopping for everything college football. Longtime front of
the show, Pete fu Tech. He is on Twitter at
p futech right now he is feuding with people who
say Tim Tebow is the greatest quarterback in college football history.

Speaker 4 (20:21):
It is peed Futech. What's happening, man?

Speaker 9 (20:23):
Kay, buddy, Hey, he was, whether we all want to
believe it or not.

Speaker 4 (20:28):
Oh no, I'm with you, he absolutely was. I ever
saying act.

Speaker 9 (20:32):
I never liked the act, I never thought the thing,
but I will admit to greatness where I must, and
so I will admit to it there. So let me
ask you this let's start out our show Cause segment
with this. So can they ever did the Fab five
actually go to a Final four or two or a
National Championship for two? Or is that not been acknowledged

(20:53):
yet or is that still considered tainted?

Speaker 1 (20:57):
H No, everybody remembers a Fab five in the National
Championship game.

Speaker 4 (21:00):
I think people still remember that, but.

Speaker 9 (21:03):
It didn't exist, right right? You know it's don't they
took they took down the pieces of cloth in the
in the in the arena, so it obviously never happened.
And if it did, well, then you know it's tint it.
It's you know, you're supposed to feel bad about yourself
when you remember those days, right, I.

Speaker 1 (21:23):
Mean, repete, could they have done something and taken away
the National Championship?

Speaker 4 (21:28):
Have done that?

Speaker 3 (21:28):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (21:29):
But I feel like you had three years.

Speaker 1 (21:32):
You had three years to try to prove this in
the fact, and I'm sorry that Connor Stallions found a
way to outsmart you when you couldn't get the evidence,
and that boy, I really want to be investigated by
the nsay if I do something wrong, because they're not
gonna find anything because I'm a little bit smarter than
him and boy, look at what he was able to do. Uh,
I'm just glad that it's over, you know, because again,
they could have done something.

Speaker 4 (21:52):
Bigger a couple of years ago. They could have said, hey,
this is a big deal.

Speaker 1 (21:55):
We're gonna ban you from winning the Big Ten or
ban you from postseason play this year.

Speaker 4 (22:00):
They could have done something pretty strong for one year.

Speaker 1 (22:02):
But instead, no, no, we're going to wait and try to
get all the proof we can. They couldn't get any.
So now, yeah, here's a twenty million dollar fine and
a suspension you were going to give to your coach.

Speaker 9 (22:11):
Anyway, there is a window of about four weeks where
when when it all hits a fan, when when you're like,
wait a minute, this, you know, there's nothing illegal here,
and technically there still is it there they're actually getting
nailed for other stuff because there was never any rules
against this. It might have been an American, but there
was never anything that said you are not allowed to

(22:33):
do this other than have a you know, you're not
except you're not allowed to scout in the stadium, but
that's if you're an official capacity blah blah blah. But
like the only way this would have worked, it would
have been for the Big Ten at the time to
have said no, Michigan is not eligible to play for
the Big Ten championship, and then it would have been
up to the College Football Playoffs Commute to decide what

(22:54):
it would want it to have done with that, which
they could have still said, Hey, we're going to do.
Our job is to cover the four best teams, this
year's Michigan team. And to your point, all the screaming,
all these coaches like, oh, yeah, we knew this was happening. Well,
too bad, you know, where were you then? And also
to your point, Robin's racing son. I you, you know,

(23:15):
people really mad about this are like, well we didn't
think of it first or do it as well? So
I it's not right, it's not good. But like this,
you know, what are you doing twenty twenty million? I mean,
you Michigan types have that, you know in your pockets,
you know, and that's that's nothing. Okay, You're you're suspending
Sharon More against central directional something or other. And no,

(23:39):
if Jim Harbaugh wats the coach in the college football again,
yeah he's coming back. And if something someone says, well
you gotta say you know you gotta save yourself. No, yes,
who's gonna say no to him? You can still hire him.
There's no heat to this, like it's just like a
bunch of blah blah blah and ball gets kicked off
and day, Well.

Speaker 6 (24:01):
That's it, right, just tie up the bow and let
people gripe for a week and then we'll have a
kickoff and everybody will say squirrel and that's.

Speaker 9 (24:09):
The end of it exactly. And then you know, but
oh no, it's only gets Oh it's tainted. Now feel
bad about yourselves. Michigan fans, Yeah, okay, yeah, that'll work.
Oh I file State fans.

Speaker 4 (24:23):
You win.

Speaker 9 (24:24):
Oh no, you didn't beat that. There wins over. You
don't count now. No, it so chilly.

Speaker 6 (24:31):
But that's the end game, right is we're looking for
twenty million dollars plus whatever. It's a tenth of your
operating budget. Gets Steven Ross or someone to cut a check.
Here's Tom Brady from one of his card shops. Boom,
no postseason ban, none of that and more has to
miss a couple of games. I think you'll take a
national title and a couple of bad headlines from blogs.

(24:53):
I mean, it's just shows how toothless everything is at
this point, and to the the larger collegiate world, you
did touch.

Speaker 9 (25:04):
On the one big thing you touched on the what
no postseason bans like taking away scholarships doesn't matter anymore
in an NIL world, so you can't. So the only
real thing that they could have done is said, you
know what, You're not gonna give you a death penalty,
but we're gonna say you can't play in the college
Football playoff or a Big Ten championship for the next

(25:24):
however many years. But at this point in the business
world of college athletics, you do that. In five seconds later,
you're getting calls from grape Vine, Texas and Bristol, Connecticut,
and you know, all these places like, oh, you want
to take Michigan. We got billions of dollars invested in
this whole Big Ten thing, and you want to make

(25:44):
Michigan a non entity. No we're not, We're not doing
that this, So try again now, Pete.

Speaker 1 (25:52):
The whole thing is that, like somebody could have done
something a year ago, two years or whatever, and it
would have been over. And I feel like like d
NCA had a chance to do something. Clearly there was evidence,
there there was something they could have done. And now
after three years, I just feel like, Okay, I think
everybody's just glad it's over.

Speaker 4 (26:11):
Like I think they think that's the overwhelming thing takeaway. Okay, good,
this story went on.

Speaker 1 (26:16):
You know, people are going for their four years at
Michigan and they're going to say, yeah, every year my
coach was suspended for the first two.

Speaker 4 (26:21):
Games of the year.

Speaker 1 (26:21):
Yeah, I mean just saying that, like, I'm just glad
that this is done at this point.

Speaker 9 (26:26):
Yeah, I think so. And you know, now it's all
about you know, Ken Michigan actually winning now. And you know,
because it was a great year is the one, you know,
one great season that built to that, and there's always something.
But yeah, I'm glad it's hopefully it's over. But you know,
of course, if you look on social media and stuff,
it'll never be over. But for the people who really matter,

(26:50):
I remember in my little weird little world, it's only
a fraction of the people who care about this. Ninety
eight percent of the people who care about college football
are come on a board right about now, and this
is when they start.

Speaker 6 (27:02):
To care all that to say they might actually have
that quarterback that they said Jim Harbond never did plus
eight hundred to win the Big Ten behind Ohio State,
Penn State, Oregon. Do they have a puncher's chance?

Speaker 9 (27:14):
Yeah, I mean, of course, because we don't know. Ohio
State's just a theory because last year they had everyone,
they were everyone back. Now they're replacing everyone. We're assuming
that they're just going to replace all this talent that
was built up over years and years and years, and
they're just there's assuming that all of a sudden, Julian

(27:36):
Sayan's going to be the next great Ohio State quarterback
because he might be. You know, they didn't go after anybody,
so okay, he might be that good. And that's a
lot to ask. But Oregon's still very very good. But
not assuming that Dante more is going to be great
at quarterback and be the next big thing. I still
think if if Pennce if the talent at that Penn

(27:58):
State right now, if you took the Penn State team
and put him at Alabama or Georgia or Ohio State,
nobody else gets the number one vote. Just there. They
have the most talent, the most experienced. Now they have
Ohio State defensive coordinator, they have everything in place to
be the number one team, accept the respect of a

(28:19):
wanting nation who thinks that James Franklin cannot win a game.
So that's all that's missing here.

Speaker 1 (28:26):
All right?

Speaker 4 (28:26):
So pete, lastly, here we are.

Speaker 1 (28:28):
We're getting We're creeping closer and closer to opening two
week zero in college football, the soft partening, the soft yes, yes,
the soft opening coming up next week. Where do you
sit right knowing that sold that times it can change
between now and the thirtieth? Are you stock up rch Manning?
Are you stock down arch Manning?

Speaker 9 (28:47):
Where are you on arch I'm stocked up arch Manning.
I'm not stock up on Texas. I just look, if
they lose to Ohio State in the opener, which isn't crazy,
and they lose at Georgia late in the season, which
is hardly crazy, they can't lose another game, and Oklahoma
is really good. So let's say Texas loses a tough

(29:08):
one to Ohio State, they lose a tough one to Oklahoma,
and they lose at Georgia. Well we can rationally we
could say, well, okay, they just lost the three of
the best teams in college football. Of course, they've won
a twelve team playoffs. In reality, in the college football
playoff era in eleven years, if you didn't have at
least ten regular season wins, you're not in the thing.

(29:30):
So I'm still not quite buying into the whole Texas
thing arch Manning. I keep asking people about him. I
have yet to hear a negative word. I mean, he's
just everyone loves the guy. He gets it. He's that good,
he's that talented. Literally since birth, he's been preparing for this.

(29:50):
He knows who he is, he knows who his last
name is. He still act like one of the guys.

Speaker 3 (29:55):
Apparently.

Speaker 9 (29:55):
He's got just some great sense of humor that just
everyone gets fall.

Speaker 1 (29:59):
In love with.

Speaker 9 (30:00):
And if he lights up Ohio State to start the season,
then this is the year of Arch Manning. But I
actually am buying into the idea that he's not going
to be the top guy in the draft next year
because he's like to stay around like his brother as
a uncle did. So, uh, this is going to be
the year of Arch Manning. I just I'm not sold
to Texas As. This be all end all number one

(30:21):
that everyone's putting them at.

Speaker 1 (30:23):
He's on Twitter at Pete Futech, that is at Pete
futech starting a string of meeting and coming on with
us every week and previewing and breaking down college football. Pete,
hope you had a bad summer. Glad you're back man.
We'll talk to you next week.

Speaker 9 (30:35):
Absolutely, guy, you have a gooe.

Speaker 4 (30:37):
Welcome brother.

Speaker 1 (30:38):
There going to be a few tech stock up on
Arch manning stock down on Texas h Tom how to
find out what's trending in the wide world of sports.
For man who is very nervous that he is watching
Alexis Diaz try to close out the ninth inning for
the Dodgers against the Padres.

Speaker 4 (30:55):
Not Edwin Diaz.

Speaker 1 (30:57):
What is brother Alexis Daz who owns a seven point
It is Steve Desager.

Speaker 10 (31:03):
It has come to that not only four injured relievers,
but Alex Vessi is simply pitching like he's injured the
last week. He said, by the way, did not finish
the eighth inning. Vessia was brought in hit the first
two batters allowed to walk. Couldn't get three outs in
the eighth ds in the ninth does have two outs,
runner at first, Dodgers holding on three to two over

(31:23):
the first place Padres. For the moment, San Diego a
game over La. The Dodgers have lost four in a row.
Padres pitcher Michael King Well, this was his turn in
the rotation, but he went on the il with knee inflammation,
so it's an all bullpen game for them this evening.
Padres have won five straight.

Speaker 1 (31:40):
Veteran not said he's coming out of a game now
ds D dryer in strikeout, base hit, strikeout, Nope, and
he's coming out of the game.

Speaker 4 (31:48):
He's not kidding another bat.

Speaker 10 (31:50):
He had twenty pitches this inning. Vessia had twenty pitches
last edning. Of course, not on the call right there,
La started. Clayton kershas two this year, with the first
six things, allowing only a run and two hits. Elsewhere,
Colorado beat Arizona four to three. Yankees led four to
nothing in the third and won four to three at

(32:11):
Saint Louis Yankster, a game and a half up on
Cleveland for the last al wildcard. The Guardians were shut
out at home two nothing by Atlanta. Victories for Detroit
and Baltimore on the road. Kansas City got to win tonight.
Boston with a run bottom of the ninth beat Miami
two to one. It was Toronto with four runs bottom
of the eighth, edging Texas six to five. Toronto first

(32:33):
in the al EA, still five up on Boston Yankee
six and a half behind in New York. Seattle beat
the Mets eleven to nine. The lost to Ryan Helsley
cal Rawley at his forty sixth homer. He has one
hundred RBIs this year. The first place Phillies in the
nle Is now lead by six games over the Mets.
Phills won six to two at Washington Kyle Schwarbury at

(32:53):
his forty third homer, but Philadelphia closer Joan Duran left
hit in the ankle by a line drive, was carted off.
The Brewers won their thirteenth straight game. They lead the
Cubs in the NL Central by nine games. The Cubs
were beaten at Wrigley Field today three to two by
the Pirates thanks to a solo homer top of the ninth.
Milwaukee was down eight one in the second inning, but

(33:14):
still won ten eight at Cincinnati. Christian Yelich four hits,
five RBIs, including two solo homers. Among the late ballgames,
not only the Dodger narrow lead against the Padres three
to two in the ninth, but the Giants are even
six six with the Rays in the bottom of the
eighth inning. The Giants have lost five in a row.
Rafael Devers zero for four with four strikeouts so far.

(33:36):
In this game, the A's lead the Angels six to
three in the top of the eighth. In the WNBA,
Seattle won its game in Vancouver eighty to seventy eight
against Atlanta Las Vegas eighty six eighty three winners at
Phoenix Asha Wilson thirty points, sixteen rebounds. There are two
NFL exhibitions. Tonight, three minutes to go at Seattle Seahawks

(33:57):
thirty three to ten over the Chiefs. Starter Sam Darnold
played one series, was four for four passing thirty four yards,
then off the bench Drew Locke with a couple of
TV passes. Earlier, Tennessee won twenty three to twenty at Atlanta.

Speaker 4 (34:10):
Titans.

Speaker 10 (34:10):
Quarterback cam Ward the first rounder, went two of seven,
passing forty two yards, most of it on the first
pass back to you.

Speaker 4 (34:17):
Thank you, Steve O.

Speaker 1 (34:19):
The Jason Smith Show with my best friend Mike Harmon
live from the Fox Sports Radio Studios. Coming up next,
we have more big football talk to get to what
are the two most interesting things we are gonna see
this weekend? During Week two of the NFL preseason, we

(34:39):
got it for you. Next right here, Jason and Mike Fox.

Speaker 3 (34:41):
Probably a Giants win.

Speaker 4 (34:42):
Jason, it's the preseason.

Speaker 3 (34:45):
It's okay, okay.

Speaker 2 (34:48):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
pm Pacific, Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 4 (34:58):
Happy Friday, Oh with Mike Harvin. Come standing up in
the studio.

Speaker 1 (35:08):
We'll have more on the Dodgers electric three to two
win over the Padres coming up in about ten minutes.

Speaker 4 (35:15):
The Dodger bullpen. Guys that you didn't think would.

Speaker 1 (35:18):
Come in to close it out came in to close
it out against the Padres San Diego.

Speaker 4 (35:24):
Ron, I've gotta fire you well.

Speaker 6 (35:26):
Did you see they shut down and didn't let people
sit by the Padres bullpen?

Speaker 3 (35:31):
Fearful because nobody needs to see that. It will hurt
your eyes, Mike.

Speaker 1 (35:37):
But again, we got other big stuff football wise to
get to. You got more in the Michigan scandal, but
a couple of quarterback situations that I really these are
the these are the stories I really can't wait to
see this weekend.

Speaker 4 (35:50):
Right.

Speaker 1 (35:50):
We talked about Caleb Williams and teams of the and
players with a lot at Steak and Jackson Dart Right,
But the first one is this JJ McCarthy. He's not
gonna play this weekend right now. But because he looked
so good finally he looked really good in the in
the joint practices they had with the Patriots, they're not

(36:11):
playing him.

Speaker 4 (36:12):
Kevin O'Connell said, yeah, no, no, so what I need
to say, We're not playing JJ McCarthy.

Speaker 1 (36:15):
Wow, this is a guy that does not looked great
off and on during camp and instead Sam Howell's gonna
get the start. It always I always have to sit
here and think, Okay, you're really doing a lot of
heavy lifting mentally with a quarterback when you want to
limit his exposure because you want him to be in
a positive frame of mind. Like after Justin Fields had

(36:37):
the touchdown drive last week for the Jets, he probably
could have played another series or so, nope, take.

Speaker 4 (36:41):
Him out, take him out. He got it, he got
down the field, he went. That's why.

Speaker 1 (36:45):
That's why with Fields, I'm like, yeah, okay, he threw
a couple of passes middle of the feel he ran
for a touchdop no, no, no, take him out. Let's give
him a positive experience. JJ McCarthy has not been great.
Now it looks like he's maybe playing a little bit
better and again, and his joint practice with the Patriots
went really I.

Speaker 4 (37:03):
Think he went like fourteen for fourteen or something like
that in their most recent practice.

Speaker 1 (37:07):
But here's the thing, right, Sam Howell had a lights
out week one in the preseason. He's going to play
again tomorrow night. And this is a guy that has
started that has flashed in the NFL before with Washington.

Speaker 4 (37:21):
Now he's found his way. He was a backup. Now
here he is. Again, McCarthy's not been great. We've seen
Sam Howell start.

Speaker 1 (37:27):
If he continues to have a lights out preseason, how
long do the Vikings go If McCarthy doesn't start out well, right, Like,
does McCarthy have a stranglehold on this job? Or if
he's struggling three four weeks in, do the Vikings say, okay?

Speaker 4 (37:45):
You know what?

Speaker 1 (37:47):
Sam really seemed another guy named Sam. Sam really seemed
to have it worked out well with a Sam. Last year.
Sam's got it going. He looked really well when he
was on the field this year. Hey, maybe JJ needs
a breather and we get him back in at some point, Like,
does JJ McCarthy really have a stranglehold on the job
considering in the off season all the potential flirtation with

(38:07):
Aaron Rodgers that no one ever talked about, even though
they said goodbye to say it to Sam Donald. So
I really wonder if he's got as much of a
stranglehold on the job as people think he does.

Speaker 6 (38:17):
Yeah, I'm wondering though, how much of the flirtation was
Aaron Rodgers trying to flirt with them that he was
going the Brett Favre path and wanted to come back
and stick it to the packers thinking they kicked him
to the curb even though he kept threatening to retire
and all that fun stuff, and they had a guy
in waiting and blah blah blah blah blah, but letting

(38:38):
Sam Donald go. I think that was all indications of
the old. Hey, we don't want a guy to be
uncomfortable and nervous because there's somebody who's proven in the facility.
Because all the reports all last year, how many times
did we have You might as well have just painted
a Halo over JJ McCarthy, the way they talked about
his work ethic and what he was doing around the

(39:00):
building or whatever else. I think he gets every chance
to fail. I think the only way Sam Holli sees
the field is an absolute meltdown or an injury from McCarthy,
and I think he's got a really long leash there.

Speaker 4 (39:14):
The other one here is this.

Speaker 1 (39:17):
Chador Sanders likely not playing tomorrow night, the oblique injury,
Dylan Gabriel dinged up. Maybe he plays, Maybe it's gonna
wind up being Snoop un Ley. But if Dylan Gabriel
starts plays well, does he move up the.

Speaker 4 (39:33):
Quarterback ladder like?

Speaker 1 (39:34):
Does Dylan Gabriel Like if he becomes the starter or
he moves up and they say, hey, he's terrific, he's
our number two now behind Kenny, behind Joe Flacco. Then
you know the Browns hate Shador Sanders. That should just
trade it right then you know they're looking to keep him,
to not start him, and because if they want to
elevate somebody else off a big performance when the other

(39:57):
guys were injured, when they didn't do it to Shador Sanders,
you know they just hate you.

Speaker 4 (40:00):
Dor Sanders.

Speaker 6 (40:01):
Yeah, old rule of thumb to all of it. Stay
healthy and it'll.

Speaker 4 (40:03):
Work itself out.

Speaker 1 (40:05):
That's the law of attrition as related to quarterbacks in
the National Football League.

Speaker 4 (40:11):
Exit up about a Fresca exit Swollen.

Speaker 1 (40:13):
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