March 15, 2025 • 41 mins
Aaron and J-Mart (in for Jason and Mike) open Hour 3 reacting to Duke taking down UNC in the ACC tournament after the Tar Heels almost completed a massive comeback. College hoops bracketologist Rocco Miller joins the show to weigh in with his own thoughts and help the guys look ahead to March Madness.
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No di Sega just gave you all the updates, but
I'll give you what you need to know. In these
conference tournaments. Big East Semifinals, our final, Yukon loses to Creighton,
Saint John's beats Marquette. We have a Saint John's Creighton
one versus two matchup there. Arizona, the three seed, has
just beaten the two seed Texas Tech. In the Big Twelve.
It will be Arizona versus Houston for the Big Twelve
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title on Saturday. In the ACC Louisville pulling away from Clemson.
Louisville will play Duke and we will get to how
Duke won in a minute. And in the SEC quarterfinals,
Alabama with a thirty point lead over.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
The Kentucky Wildcats.
Speaker 4 (01:45):
Kentucky survived on what was essentially a buzzer beater on
Wednesday night or Thursday night, excuse me.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
The Wildcats will head home.
Speaker 4 (01:53):
They were down two starters coming into tonight, LaMotte Butler
and Jackson Robinson. They lose another key player, Otega away
during this game. You know, I know it's always news
when Kentucky falls by thirty in a conference tournament game,
or any game for that matter, but I mean, they
are literally playing guys right now, that are guys that
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were expected to red shirt and basically not play. So
that is your conference update.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
By the way. You know, it's a fun time of year.
Speaker 4 (02:21):
We got the Big West has just started a semi
final game in Vegas. UC Irvine and cal Poly will
have a Mountain West semi in just a minute. So again,
a very fun time and we are so thankful to
be joining you and taking the up till two am
Eastern Jmark. Let's get to the big story in college hoops.
(02:42):
By the way, Rocko Miller, a bracketologist for the Field
of sixty eight, will join us here in just a minute,
because I really kind of want his perspective on a
lot of things, but maybe most specifically what happened in Charlotte,
North Carolina tonight, Tysher let's have the sound ready, the
two different sounds, but I'll set it up here momentarily.
North Carolina came into this evening. Uh, Basically, if you
(03:04):
believe all the bracketology, either one of the last few
teams in the NCAA tournament or one of the first
few out. They're playing one seed Duke without Cooper flag.
We know that ankle Sprain on Thursday did not play tonight.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
Duke at one point had a twenty four point lead.
Speaker 4 (03:21):
Carolina comes all the way back to cut it to
seventy two to seventy one, missed the front end of
a free throw. They still have one more to tie
it up. Alexteischer play the Duke audio of what happened next.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
The second one is on the way. It's a lane violation.
Speaker 5 (03:39):
He made it, but where they're stepped in the lane,
it's it's turnover hand. The Blue level lead stand seventy
two seventy one with four point one to go, where
there's got an early start and the Blue levels still
lead by one.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
That was the Duke radio network.
Speaker 6 (03:58):
Is that the most enthusiastic lane violation call in the
history of the game.
Speaker 4 (04:03):
It might be, but I'll tell you what you know
what was the most unenthusiastic lane violation call. Tyshirt played
the North Carolina sound of the same call.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
Bluebin to tie the game with four point one. The
second free pro is good.
Speaker 7 (04:18):
Violation on Withers for moving early.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
It's kidding me.
Speaker 5 (04:22):
There is a lane violation on Jalen Withers.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
He faked like he was gonna go before the shot
was taken.
Speaker 7 (04:31):
And you're not allowed to make any movements before the
SHOT's taken.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
I liked the audio Tyshert leave the music on. I
love it.
Speaker 4 (04:43):
I love the audio of the North Carolina guy. Just
it sounded like he was at a funeral. He's just
like lane violation, it's over color.
Speaker 6 (04:54):
Guy's better.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
He's just like, oh that guy, Yeah, yeah, that's you
kidding me.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
Yes, no, sir, We're.
Speaker 4 (05:01):
Not unbelievable because listen, it's Duke Carolina. But there's so
much at stake. We're gonna have a bracketologist on here
in about ten minutes from now, and we'll find out
was it winning, You're in losing your out? I don't know,
but Carolina, you know listen, they are a blue blood program.
We understand that, but they just don't have very much
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on their resume. Three losses to Duke. Basically, I'll try
to explain this as best as I can in the
least nerdy way possible. But the selection committee breaks up
your wins and losses into what they call four quads. Okay,
the best wins that you can have are quad one wins.
The best losses you can have are quad one losses.
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I bring it up. They have one quad one win. Okay,
but for comparison, some of the teams on the bubble,
Texas has like six quad one wins, Arkansas has six
quad one wins.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
North Carolina with one.
Speaker 4 (05:58):
I think there's an argument that if they aren't North Carolin,
are we even talking about them in the same manner.
But there's just not much of a resume there, and
there's certainly not much of a resume without a loss,
without the win over Duke this evening as they fall
to the the to the Blue Devil's jamut.
Speaker 6 (06:15):
Yeah, yeah, they don't have the resume. Luckily, a lot
of the teams around them don't have a great resume either.
The fact that Cooper Flag didn't play doesn't help when
you lose, but at least you don't get blown up
by twenty plus, you fought back into the game and
then what happens at the end. It just kind of
feels like that's what it's been for Carolina as of late.
But you also wonder it's like, does that uniform does
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that jersey carry some weight when it comes to our
Tournament's better with North Carolina in it than out of it?
I don't know. I mean that's a it's a different
way to look at it. But there would be there
will be some that will argue that they didn't deserve
to be in if they do get in, but they
will just because they're North Carolina. North Carolina has a
lot of built in advantages here. But at the same time,
I think it just shows how mediocre to even less
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than mediocre that program is at this point. And there
are larger questions I know that need to be talked
about when it comes to North Carolina basketball.
Speaker 4 (07:11):
Yeah, I was gonna ask you, you know, I get
the perspective that I don't think they're going to make
a move, and I'll tell you why really quick. Is
that probably about a month ago. This is a little
inside college basketball. But if there's ever a time to
do it, it's now. Hubert Davis had one of those
coaches calls coach. I think it was a radio one
of the Monday radio shows that all these coaches do,
and he basically said, hey, we're behind from like an
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nil perspective, and it's not just it's not just the money,
it's the infrastructure around the team. I mean, I think
the trendy thing that I think if you love college sports.
And even if you don't, you know that all these
college football and basketball programs are hiring basically full staffs,
basically of evaluators that are working on the transfer portal,
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working on high school recruiting. It's not just three assistant
coaches do the recruiting anymore. It's a much bigger infrastructure.
By the way, speaking of the ACC Louisville which has
had a double digit lead basically the entire second half,
Clemson has cut the lead to four with one minute ago.
Clemson has the ball, so we'll keep you updated on
that one, and they actually scored, so they got a
(08:16):
two point deficit. Now Louisville up seventy five seventy three.
In the other semi final with Carolina, Carolina basically Hubert
Davis was like, he had a direct quote of we
need more help. You know, even where I thought the
sport was gonna be two years ago, it has changed
significantly whatever. So they just hired a quote unquote GM
(08:38):
to kind of help them with nil stuff. Carolina alum
worked as an agent, so I don't think that they're
going to fire him, but I will say this would
be the second Miss Tournament in three years overall, this
is year number four for Hubert Davis. And if you remember,
they were basically on the bubble that first year until
the end of the season. Then they got red hot
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and to the NCAA Championship game. But even that season,
they weren't good for most of the year. So you're
talking about basically three of his four regular seasons were
basically nothing to speak of. You do make a deep
tournament run last year, you have success, but you're probably
gonna miss the tournament for a second time in three
years this year, and yeah, it's just not good for
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Hebert Davis.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
There's no other way to put it.
Speaker 4 (09:22):
And as you said, Carolina, I know college basketball is
an evolving sport and maybe being a blue blood doesn't
matter quite as much as it used to. But when
you're Carolina and you missed the tournament two out of
three years, that and nothing's official yet, but that's where
it looks like it could be going not very good.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
If you're a Carolina fan.
Speaker 6 (09:38):
Yeah, it looks maybe they make it, but even if so,
it's just like, this is not Carolina basketball. I said
this before, and I say it a lot. I mean,
I grew up in Winston Salem's. I knew a lot
of people. My first girlfriend went to Carolina and I
was there all the time as a matter of fact,
So like that school and the tradition, how much they
care about basketball. We didn't actually do this exercise, but
(10:01):
I was trying to think of what what is Carolina
basketball in reference to football? And I was thinking Michigan.
I don't think they're like I think Kentucky and Alabama
are very similar, right, I think Alabama football and Kentucky
basketball are pretty similar. Then you look at Duke Maybe
maybe Dukes Ohio State, I'm not sure, but like I
look at it like Michigan program, that's that's looking for
(10:23):
a championship and just couldn't stand what they were seeing.
For such a long period of time. They were going
coach to coach, nothing was working out. Maybe Oklahoma can.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
Really quick, Yeah, go ahead.
Speaker 4 (10:36):
I think Michigan's a perfect analogy. And I'll tell you why.
One little nerdy. But both are really good academic schools.
Speaker 6 (10:42):
Yes they are both.
Speaker 4 (10:44):
What do they always say, Michigan man? Well, North Carolina
has hired internally every coach Dean Smith to his assistant
Bill Guthridge to Matt Doherty, who was a Carolina player,
did not work out, bringing Roy Williams, bring in Hubert Davis.
They haven't had an outside coach for any of our lives,
probably sixty years. Okay, Then where I think the the
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parallel is totally fair is some of the nerdy, behind
the scenes stuff.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
Is that Carolina.
Speaker 4 (11:10):
I think for for the first couple of years of this,
nil Era felt like, Ah, we're Carolina. Kids are gonna
want to come here, and then it's like, okay, but
when you know this SEC school's offered me twice as
much money.
Speaker 3 (11:22):
Sorry, Carolina wanted to wear.
Speaker 4 (11:24):
That that that that baby blue, but just not gonna happen.
Speaker 3 (11:28):
I'll give you a quick example.
Speaker 4 (11:29):
Aj De bonson number one high school player in America
committed to BYU. Matt Norlander from CBS did a long
form piece on his commitment and Carolina's pitch was basically
to him, Hey, with our branding, you'll be able to
make X Y Z on your first shoe contract. And
he was like, Yeah, that's cool. But BYU's offering me
this much money upfront to come there, so I'm gonna
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go to BYU. So you have the same kind of
parallel with with Michigan, where they kind of felt like
they were above the NIL stuff, then they finally embraced it.
They get Bryce under with the number one quarterback. I
just think it's the perfect parallel. I don't know if
you had others that you wanted to get into.
Speaker 6 (12:04):
Mischium was my favorite one. But I was waiting for
you to say that it wasn't good. But you've actually
made me feel better about it, so I'll stick with that.
I think that that also lands with Hubert Davis maybe
getting one more year with them really focused in on NIL,
with the GM coming in and trying to kind of
fix that. Now they realize, Okay, having the Jordan logo
and the Jordan brand and even the Jordan name and
(12:27):
all that kind of stuff, it doesn't matter anymore. Everything
has changed across college basketball to such like if you're
not playing the NIL game, you're probably not going to
be there very long. I mean even Dabo is going
to have to give in at Clemson. So I mean,
you look at it there, it's just it doesn't matter
what you used to be, and we the further you
get away from being relevant, the further away you get
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from being good, the less of the new generation players
know that you ever were, because tradition has been lost
in this society because everything from day to day, our
memories are so short term. Now I don't even know
how to drive in my own city because I've been
relying on my GPS for so long that when the
GPS goes down, I'm completely lost. I was even thinking
(13:09):
about that. It's like if I got if I had
to make it to this destination and my phone somehow
was dead, could I do it? And I was thinking
about like this terror of being back in high school
and trying to drive to a state championship basketball game
and going an hour and a half in the wrong
direction and then stopping for a map and realizing I
was now four hours away as opposed to where I
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started from. So I had to drive that hour and
a half back, go through my town, and then go
in the opposite direction down Tobacco Road, only to get
there at the end of the game and not even
see it. And it was a buzzer beat or finish
where our team won. So it's like, I look at
all of that, It's like everything in our attention spans
and technology and all this kind of stuff. Yeah, you
can go find some history, but we don't have time
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anymore for history. We don't have time to go back
and see all this kind of stuff. We know, Aaron,
what North can a lot of basketball is supposed to
look like. And that's why when I see what I've
seen over the last few years, especially growing up so
close to it and knowing how much it matters in
that part of the country, I say, boy, and Hubert
knows it too, Like I love Hubert Davis, but at
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the same time, Hubert knows what it's supposed to look like,
and this ain't what it's supposed to look like.
Speaker 4 (14:20):
Yeah, his quote a few weeks ago they have hired
a GM, but he said, I'm going to increase the staff,
and it's needed. I never would have thought in the
four years that I took the job that one hundred
percent what is needed is a general manager. There's just
so much stuff out there. I mentioned owner, GM, fundraiser,
basketball coach. It's so much on the plate that it'll
take away from doing what's the most important thing, which
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is coaching basketball. And I think if you don't follow
college sports on a day to day basis, that can
sound like an excuse that's the sentiment across college sports
right now. By the way, speaking of the ACC we
do have a final. Louisville holds on they get a
defensive stop. Seventy six to seventy three is the result
that Louisville gets to win. They will face Duke Duke
(15:03):
in the final because North Carolina had a laan violation
with UH with just a few seconds to go, Jaymartin,
I kind of cut you off on the Hubert stuff,
anything any last thoughts here as we put a bow
on this.
Speaker 6 (15:16):
No, I got derailed because I was just I went
to I went to the four Letter website and I
saw Friday's best in the NBA, and the first clip
is Brownie James three pointer over Nicole Jokic. I just lost.
I just lost my entire train of thought when I
saw it. Was just really all I know is that
the Lakers lost that game, and Austin Reeves is really good.
And you and I knew this already when they traded
(15:39):
Dalton connect as part of that deal. It was just like, huh,
were trying to get why are you moving him as
part of this? That dude can play, You could probably
use him. Dude had like twenty plus in the game tonight,
he can play like he's somebody.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
They need to find a way to hang on to
one hundred percent. Let's see here.
Speaker 4 (15:55):
I know Disaga has given us an update, but the
Denver Nuggets do hold on to win in a game
that Lebron and Luka Doncic were among many who were
not playing.
Speaker 6 (16:04):
But Austin Reeves had thirty seven.
Speaker 4 (16:06):
Austin Reeves had thirty seven, Bronni James had eight, five
at five one of five shooting from the field. This
is the Jays Susmith Show with Mike Harbert, Jason Smith
and Mike Harmon Erreill.
Speaker 3 (16:17):
Tell you what we will come back.
Speaker 4 (16:19):
We will get the authoritative take on North Carolina basketball.
In Out they lose to Duke essentially at the buzzer
on a lane violation. Rocko Miller bracketologists for the Field
of sixty eight will join us in just one moment.
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Speaker 4 (17:44):
Welcome Back Everybody, Jason Smith's Show with Mike Harmon, Jason
and Micro Out Aaron Torres Jason Martin taking you till
two am Eastern. In just a few minutes, we will
have Rockomiller, a bracketologist from the Field of sixty eight
podcast network. He's actually great on brackets.
Speaker 7 (18:02):
I think he's.
Speaker 4 (18:03):
At one of these games, maybe this UC Irvine cal
Poly game. But he'll join us in just one moment.
Before we do, though, let's toss it over the news desk,
Steve Disager. It is twelve twenty five Eastern time. Tell
us what is trending right now, my friend plunty.
Speaker 7 (18:17):
And by the way, you see Irvine, the second place
team is actually trailing late first half. But the Chicago
Cubs are getting no hit in Japan right now. They're
down three nothing to the han Chin Tigers in one
of their tune up games before they face the Dodgers
in Tokyo next week. The Cubs are using their regular
lineup and they're zero for fifteen at the plate, down
three to nothing bottom of the fifth against han Chin Tigers,
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not the Detroit Tigers. And we mentioned earlier in the
show that Lebron James, apparently who's not on this road
trip with the Lakers due to injury, got permission to
go see his son at the state championship game in
Sacramento tonight. His team, Sierra Canyon of LA is trailing
third quarter against Lincoln of Stockton thirty one thirty. Just
(19:00):
for the record, Bryce Drew a Price drew Bryce James the.
Speaker 4 (19:04):
I've called Cooper Cup Cooper fin at least joined, Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 7 (19:08):
Is a senior going to Arizona apparently in the NBA. Yeah.
The Lakers almost pulled it off at Denver without Lebron
James and Luka Donsig and four other injured players. They
were leading with fifty seconds to go and then an
eight zero run for the Nuggets won the game one
thirty one to one twenty six. Austin reeves thirty seven
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points in defeat. Sacramento lost its fourth row. I mentioned
the Lakers have lost four straight. Miami lost at sixth straight,
Houston won its fifth in a row. Minnesota won at
seventh straight. Cleveland won its sixteenth game in a row,
went at Memphis, won thirty three one twenty four despite
forty four points from John Moran. Toronto has won at Utah.
The Jazz have dropped eight straight. Now to college basketball
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in the semi finals of Conference tournaments. Tonight in the
Big East, Saint John's and Creighton advanced. Acc Louisville and
Duke advance. The top two seeds will face each other
tomorrow for the Crown. Duke advanced barely over North Carolina
seventy four to seventy one with four seconds left. The
Tar Heels had the tying free throw waved off due
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to a lane violation, and Arizona has put away Texas
Tech in a Big twelve semifinal eighty six eighty Arizona
against top seed Houston tomorrow. Houston won by twenty over
BYU Iowa fired coach fran McCaffrey after fifteen years. Selection
Sunday is this Sunday. To fill out the NCAA tournament field.
The Seattle Seahawks are signing wide receiver Cooper Cup from
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the Rams. Back to you, Thank you.
Speaker 3 (20:38):
Very much, Steve Disager.
Speaker 4 (20:39):
This is the Jason Smith Show with Jason Jason Smith
Show with Mike Harmon, Jason Smith and microre Out. They
will be back on Monday. Aaron Torres and Jason Martin
filling in for the guys. Tell you what want to
go straight to the phone lines. Is college hoops season
brackets are going to be out, as Steve de Sager
just told you, coming on Sunday, and we got to
get you caught up on everything that you need to
(21:00):
know going into the weekend. Friday games are almost complete,
so to do, so we're gonna go to the hotline.
Roco Miller, bracketologist for the Field of sixty eight, joins
us Rocco.
Speaker 3 (21:10):
First of all, are you at a game right now?
Are you at a game right now?
Speaker 8 (21:15):
Always a great question. You know, I get out there
all season long and go to see a lot of
these leagues play. Have a vast interest in all thirty
one leagues, so great question. I did get back late
yesterday from Vegas. We'll slow start this morning, but got
caught up quickly and we got a lot of important
games still going on here late on Friday night. So
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I'm going to be locked in here in the home
office until the bracket comes out. We'll be doing the
show reacting to all the picks live me and Jeff
Goodman on Sunday, So you know this season, the next
two days will fly by. I can't be distracted in
the arena anymore, unfortunately.
Speaker 4 (21:54):
All right, fantastic, So I'll just let's put aside how
Carolina and Duken, Jason and I have to talked about
it for the last half hour. Was it like, give
us the context? Was this winning, you're in, losing, you're
out for Carolina? Is it more complicated than that? How
do you view what happened in Charlotte with North Carolina today?
Speaker 8 (22:14):
Yeah, that's an interesting question because we have to be
mindful of the fact that in the selection committee room,
these are humans that ultimately vote on teams, and they
might be coming from very different places. We know who
the chairman of the committee of this year is the
Bleck director, Bubba Cunningham at North Carolina. So with just
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all of those dynamics, and again like Cunningham can't be
in the room when they talk about North Carolina. We
get all that, But these guys have been together since Tuesday.
I was with Stu Jackson late Monday night in Vegas.
He's on the committee and he had to be there
Tuesday morning. He wasn't even at the Gonzaga Saint Mary's
championship game. So that just goes to show they've had
a long week together already. And when you do that,
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I served multiple mock committees this year myself just recently,
and I just naturally human human nature. You start to
like the people around you. You know who represents GOO,
and I think that can only help North Carolina. Now,
that's why they're going to be very interesting heading in
the Sunday. That's where the complication comes from that you
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might have been hinting at. I think when you look
at the resume itself, it's really difficult to put them in.
They're one in twelve and their thirteen hardest games in
the quad one. I understand that like eight of those
twelve losses are against some of the very elite teams
of the country. Three of them against Duke. They played Auburn,
they played Michigan State, they played you know, they played Florida.
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So they have a lot of teams that they had
to play. They scheduled the fifth hardest in the country.
There's a place for them that the community decides. So
you know, all the other results, they're perfect besides the
home loss to Stanford. Between Quads two and three, they
won fifteen times. So they built a metric this year,
or it's been out there for a while, but it's
finally on the team chief for NCAA purposes. It's called
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wins above bubble, and part of the purpose of that
is because all of those lower level wins for teams
that don't have as many teams in their league where
they get the constant opportunities at the top, they still
have to matter and they have to mean something. They
add up to something, and that number is has North
Carolina forty second best in the country as of today,
that would be within range of selection. You want to
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be in the top forty five. So if some of
the members are looking at that strongly to try to
figure out what to do with them, you could see
Carolina squeak in. But I think in terms of bringing
wins to the table, like significant and multiple wins against
the field, they're in deep trouble because they only have
the one win over UCLA and nothing else against the
team that's actually going to be in the field.
Speaker 6 (24:45):
Texas didn't beat Tennessee, even though I mean it looked
good for the first half and then the second half,
it just kind of win awry. As I think maybe
you expected when you saw as the kay Ziggler done
nothing in the first half, you kind of assumed that
wouldn't stay that way, But did they have to win
that game to get in. I know you had them
out in your bracket toeer website there, but I wanted
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to double check and just see if some of the
things that you've seen in some of these other tournaments
have given them any life.
Speaker 8 (25:13):
Yeah. So Texas' situation is very unique, just due to
the fact that there's been a little bit of a
precedent set over the years. You know, we've only seen
five brackets. Something that got introduced in the quad system
got introduced, and so one of the things that's been
a good trend and a good rule of thumb that
I've learned from the committee is that if you just
take away the Quad four record, what's their effective record?
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Because most of those Quad four games, especially for US
Coolact Texas, are just easy wins. And their record now
after the loss today is twelve and fifteen. So it's
really far out of bounds, and that's why I'm pretty
far out on Texas. The other thing I'll mention for
them real quick is, you know, a few years back,
we call In Sexton played for Alabama and there was
a really impressive Vandergilt team around that same time frame.
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I want to say twenty eighteen, maybe twenty nineteen. They
both got in with fifteen losses because they have beaten
number one seeds, number two seeds. They had a ridiculous
collection of wins at the top of their resume. This
Texas team does not have that. They needed this Tennessee
win just to have something in that area. Their best
road win was Mississippi State, which is a good roadwin,
but they're like an eight or nine seed. That's it's
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not top of the board level went away from home.
So if you're gonna lose that many times, the committee
had told us over and over again, you better have
some extraordinary victories on your resume. Texas quite easily does
not have that. So I don't think they're going to
hear their name called for Rocko.
Speaker 4 (26:35):
Miller joining US bracketologists for Field of sixty eight as
well as bracketeer dot com. Real quick, not real quick.
We got plenty of time here, But Rocco back to
Duke and Carolina. And this was a question Jay Martin
and I were talking about earlier, and I don't know
the answer, side be curious for you to answer it.
Carolina playing Duke without Cooper flag like like.
Speaker 3 (26:59):
If they had one.
Speaker 4 (27:01):
Do they get less credit because Cooper Flag is not
on the court? Do they get Are they dinged even
more because Duke was less than one hundred percent?
Speaker 3 (27:10):
Or are they are?
Speaker 4 (27:12):
Is the committee truly looking at what is supposed to
be a quote unquote blind resume and who's playing who doesn't.
Is it doesn't really matter to them?
Speaker 3 (27:21):
That makes sense?
Speaker 8 (27:22):
Yeah, it does, it does. And I'll just say this,
It's discussed in the room that and it's well known
in the room who's available and who's not available. And
that goes back to any game that happened throughout the season.
It's not just today. I think today impossible not to
know that. Right if you're watching any channel, it's being
talked about, so you know. And the way the community
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approaches that is it gets discussed, it gets introduced, and
then it's up to each individual member on what it means.
I think the one thing I caution about taking it
too deep is just because Cooper, Flag and Brown were
not available, that doesn't mean, and I'm just kind of
playing it out for you, if North Carolina would have won,
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It doesn't mean that Duke would have won if they
had them. You can't prove that. So the result is
still the most important thing, but you can take you know,
any of that information to your consideration process for whatever
that's worth. So for me being not inside the room,
but also having a lot of good context over what
these committees do each year, I just basically have to
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treat at parn Square because so much of that is
subjectivity and it's the results typically speak for themselves. And
I also would say, you know, we saw Duke. I
know they played Georgia Tech, but when when Cooper flag
went down, they were down by I think nine points
and ended up kind of starting to slowly take control
of that game, end up being plus seventeen without flag yesterday.
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So I think what they taught the committee and they
taught me and and Brown went down a little bit later,
I believe is that this is a darn beat team.
And even if you're beating Duke without those two, it's
a really impressed to win. So I would I would
just answer the question by simply saying they would have
gotten enough credit to get in.
Speaker 6 (29:08):
What do you think about the SEC writ large right now?
I mean, obviously they've been stellar throughout the season. The
only thing that I have wondered, is because we've seen
so much of them playing against each other, is there
an over Is there any risk of overvaluing them? Do
you think anybody in that conference is going to get
overseated or are they as good as advertised?
Speaker 8 (29:31):
That's an excellent question, because I get a little concerned
about that too. Ken Ken Pom put out a pretty
good article I thought a couple of weeks ago about
overvaluing the league. Now again, I'm not gonna I'm not
gonna discredit anything that the teams at the top are
absolutely elite. Auburn, Alabama, Florida, Tennessee, even Kentucky's got a
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really dangerous side, Texas a and m brings a football
game to the basketball court, you know. So there's a
there's a lot of great at the top. But then
you see kind of how teams from Mississippi State on
down built their resumes, and it really kind of starts
to irk you because they basically have a nice set
of wins against each other, and they did a really
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strategic job of getting those wins when they were not
at home, so they picked up all their best road
winds again kind of against each other from Mississippi State
down and that's been really interesting to study and examine.
And I think everybody's in a little bit of a
different spot. I'd say Georgia and Arkansas are in the
safest spot of the bubble mix, assuming Mississippi State's pretty
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safe as well. And then from there it gets interesting
because Vanderbilt is a team you know that I actually
like on the core. I like the way that Byington
built the roster all that stuff. But that's not what
this is about. This is about evaluating the results and
how they scheduled well. Out of anybody near the bubble,
Danderbilt by far had the worst schedule three hundred and
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thirty first in the country by the net non conference
schedule measurement, and the committee taught us forever, if you're
anywhere near the cut line, you're out with a non
conference schedule like that. So just because of that, Vanderbilt
could eat you know, if we see a couple of
bidstill and they could still happen in like the Big West,
if Irvine wins, it could happen in the Mount West,
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if Boise or Colorado State win it. There's a couple
others with Memphis, you know, Looming if they don't win it.
If some of those spots start to go, Vanderbilt could
be in a real jeopardy. I think, as it stands now,
with no good steals officially out there yet, they're going
to be safe and probably up on the ten seed line.
But the culture they start to drift into the eleven area,
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I'd be careful if i'd the Commodores. Then you get
into Oklahoma. You could pick Oklahoma apart, inside out and
sideways and find ways to keep them out. They only
won two road games all year. I know they got
a good chunk of resume wins, especially non conference, that
make them probably survive this and get in. But there's
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a lot of reasons you could pull them out to
And then you know, Texas we covered and I think
that's where it stands, So I think, you know, I
think they'll get the core in and then Texas will
be out, and then we're down to Oklahoma or Andy.
Speaker 4 (32:11):
Last one for you, Rocko Rocko Miller from Field sixty
eight bracketology expert joining us. You know three number one
seeds feel pretty set in Stone Auburn Duke in Houston.
My question is a little bit complicated. It's not just
who gets it. But there's been this perception, fair or not.
And I'm not saying that you would agree with this,
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but there's been a perception that the games on Sunday
don't matter. That basically, you know, Tennessee a few years
ago felt like they should have been a seed line higher.
They win the SEC, they don't get credit for it,
blah blah blah blah blah. I bring it up because
basically everybody that could get that fourth number one seed, Tennessee, Alabama, Florida,
Michigan State are all playing on Sunday.
Speaker 3 (32:52):
I don't even know if there's a question there.
Speaker 4 (32:55):
I just feel like if like say, Michigan State loses
on and gets the last number one seed and Florida
wins or Alabama wins.
Speaker 3 (33:04):
Or something, I just feel like there's gonna be a
lot of people pissed.
Speaker 4 (33:07):
I mean, do you have any thoughts on like does
it actually matter on Sunday or there? You know, I
don't want to put like the Committee's not, you know,
not even doing anything on Sunday, But there is this
perception that the bracket basically gets set on Saturday night
and that Sunday results don't matter, and when you have
four teams battling for a number one seed that could
all be playing Sunday.
Speaker 3 (33:27):
I just feel like it could get a little bit complicated.
Speaker 8 (33:30):
Yeah, it can't get complicated. So you get a couple
of answers to that. So one the committee will be
pretty much wrapped up with the process. The sixty eight
teams will be selected at that time, and then they'll
have to build contingency brackets. Some years they have to
build as many as twenty brackets. They could actually have
to build more than that. They might build only, you know,
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eight brackets, just depends on how it shakes out. With
these potential automatic bids being stolen, they won't know that
till late. You got to wait for the big West, Mountain, West,
et cetera. Leagues that listed already. So there's that part
of it. But that's more bubble related concerns for the committee.
I would say with the teams this year, I think
our four are set regardless of what happens from Saturday on,
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mainly because Florida and Houston have done plenty enough to
lock those spots up. You looked at Florida, they have
the two best roade wins money can buy I mean
neither Platinum, Gold, Elite level Road winds both in the
state of Alabama.
Speaker 3 (34:28):
They go to the.
Speaker 8 (34:28):
Jungle and win by nine, shock the world in that win.
Then they go to Tuscaloosa, one of these teams they
theoretically would be competing with for the final one spot,
and they won there. So Florida and Alabama could actually
meet on the same side of the bracket. And maybe
they are now that might be done now. But even
if Alabama beats them in Nashville, to me, and I
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think to the committee would agree, it's more impressive either
way that Florida won in Tuscaloosa than anything that can
happen in Nashville. And then you go a step further
and you see that Alabama's lost seven the games, Florida's
only lost four. I mean, this decision is pretty much
done in my books. And then you look at Houston,
a team that's ten and oh true, road wins dominated
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the Big twelve. They've made it to the final, they
have nothing left to prove. They could lose to Arizona
in the championship game, and I think they're safely in
the one spot. And I think Florida and Houston are
like three A and three B in the order in
the teching order that to go either way. I've been
leaning towards Florida just because, like I said, those two
platinum gold road winds they got in Alabama and Auburn
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really make them just kind of show that they can
do it at the highest level. Houston's best road wins
are really good as well. They've wanted Arizona, Texas, Tech, Kansas, etc.
But that's not the same as going to Alberta, Alabama.
So I'm giving the tiebreaker to Florida, but would not
be surprised if it gets slipped by the committee.
Speaker 3 (35:48):
That's really interesting.
Speaker 4 (35:49):
I haven't heard anybody make the definitive case that Florida,
independent of what happens the next day or two, has
the spot locked up. Roco Miller bracketologists for Field of
sixty eight. You can follow on Twitter at Roco Miller
eight Roco No pressure. But j mart and I are
hosting tomorrow and night too, and we're probably gonna be
talking about the exact same things and the exact same teams.
(36:09):
So you know, if you're available eight to eleven Pacific,
we'd love to have you on again. But we appreciate
the time, and you know, stay hydrated, get as much
rest as you can these next few days.
Speaker 8 (36:20):
Okay, no, I appreciate it. Yeah, send me a text tomorrow.
We'll see if we can do it again. As we
to talk to you guys all right.
Speaker 4 (36:26):
That is Roco Miller Field to sixty eight. Make sure
to follow him on Twitter at Roco Miller eight. Lot
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Speaker 4 (36:55):
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Speaker 7 (37:15):
We have it every sep it's a week night.
Speaker 4 (37:18):
They j Martin, I clearly like you more than Jason
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Speaker 7 (37:26):
I got to add to what you just said in
the last segment about the Sunday meaning anything to the
NCAA committee. In my very young days, I can remember
in Los Angeles it was the year before Seth Greenberg
became Long Beach State coach. The Big West was a
very good basketball conference. Believe it or not, they already
were going to have three teams going to the NCAA
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Tournament and almost a fourth because Long Beach State was
I think twenty three and nine and playing in the
conference final. Unfortunately, back then, if you can believe this,
the Big West Conference final was on during the selection show. No,
I'm not kidding. And so the NCAA Selection Committee said,
Long Beach State, if you beat number one ranked UNLV
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right now, you're in. If not, you're out. That's how
they solved the problem. What it was astounding, so needless
to say, it forced the conference to move to an
earlier start time, and now they're Saturday nights instead of
Sunday afternoon.
Speaker 3 (38:27):
I've never heard of that, I do know. I will
tell you.
Speaker 4 (38:31):
When Yukon was in the AAC, and I know it's
only because it's Yukon, but they played in the championship
game one year and it went like double overtime and
it basically went into the selection show. But it was
the AAC and nobody cared. So like I just I think, yeah,
I think that this was literally.
Speaker 7 (38:50):
Three to four bids from this league.
Speaker 3 (38:52):
What is so okay?
Speaker 7 (38:53):
I I early nineties.
Speaker 3 (38:55):
Wow, that's amazing. I did not know that at all.
Speaker 7 (38:58):
Truly stunning, but not a stunning is this. Let's get
to the postgame press conference at the Pig ten quarterfinals
after two seed Maryland has blown out Illinois. Maryland head
coach Kevin Willard at the microphone for the media.
Speaker 2 (39:12):
Coach Dave Ryan Hart w CBK Radio.
Speaker 8 (39:14):
After a slow start by both teams, and there was
a couple of free.
Speaker 2 (39:18):
Throws by Illinois and it was it.
Speaker 6 (39:21):
Was a six to four ball game, and boy, and
things just seemed like it took off for your ball club.
Speaker 2 (39:27):
Then Rice hit four threes.
Speaker 7 (39:28):
I'm not kidding you. This question goes on for thirty
five seconds. Wow, is this out of that?
Speaker 3 (39:35):
So he just did play by play. It's like, yeah,
it was seventeen minutes ago. I like that offensive bound.
Speaker 8 (39:42):
Through the whole box.
Speaker 2 (39:43):
We all know there's got it.
Speaker 3 (39:44):
There's gotta be I'm from New York.
Speaker 2 (39:45):
There's got to be a question.
Speaker 7 (39:48):
And then he proceeded to go another twenty seconds in
the game. I got nothing for you.
Speaker 8 (39:55):
That was great.
Speaker 4 (39:58):
I will say Willard's a pretty funny guy. Hell, he'll
just and he said, I'm in New Yorker. He'll kind
of just tell it like it is.
Speaker 7 (40:03):
That could have gone one of two ways. He chose
the humor route. Wow, congratulate.
Speaker 3 (40:07):
I wonder if they hadn't won, if if everyone would
have been so jovial.
Speaker 7 (40:10):
But yeah, not just one bleue out Illinois. It was
eighty eight sixty five. It'll be two seed Maryland against
one seed Michigan State in a big tear perhaps in
the final this weekend. I don't want to jump the
gun here, but they're both in the semifinals of the
Big Ten. Michigan State over Oregon seventy four to sixty four.
That was pretty close. Game three seed Michigan advanced over
Purdue tonight eighty six sixty eight, and as we mentioned
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earlier in the show, Wisconsin three, Ucla Toath eighty six
to seventy. We can update that the Chicago Cubs in
their exhibition will not be no hit in Japan tonight.
They are still getting shut out in the seventh inning
three nothing by the han Chin Tigers. The Cubs offense
is two for twenty one in this game. And as
far as late night college hoops, Mountain West, Colorado stayed
(40:54):
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those bad league, good record teams. They are tied in
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No di Sega just gave you all the updates, but
I'll give you what you need to know. In these
conference tournaments. Big East Semifinals, our final, Yukon loses to Creighton,
Saint John's beats Marquette. We have a Saint John's Creighton
one versus two matchup there. Arizona, the three seed, has
just beaten the two seed Texas Tech. In the Big Twelve.
It will be Arizona versus Houston for the Big Twelve
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title on Saturday. In the ACC Louisville pulling away from Clemson.
Louisville will play Duke and we will get to how
Duke won in a minute. And in the SEC quarterfinals,
Alabama with a thirty point lead over.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
The Kentucky Wildcats.
Speaker 4 (01:45):
Kentucky survived on what was essentially a buzzer beater on
Wednesday night or Thursday night, excuse me.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
The Wildcats will head home.
Speaker 4 (01:53):
They were down two starters coming into tonight, LaMotte Butler
and Jackson Robinson. They lose another key player, Otega away
during this game. You know, I know it's always news
when Kentucky falls by thirty in a conference tournament game,
or any game for that matter, but I mean, they
are literally playing guys right now, that are guys that
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were expected to red shirt and basically not play. So
that is your conference update.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
By the way. You know, it's a fun time of year.
Speaker 4 (02:21):
We got the Big West has just started a semi
final game in Vegas. UC Irvine and cal Poly will
have a Mountain West semi in just a minute. So again,
a very fun time and we are so thankful to
be joining you and taking the up till two am
Eastern Jmark. Let's get to the big story in college hoops.
(02:42):
By the way, Rocko Miller, a bracketologist for the Field
of sixty eight, will join us here in just a minute,
because I really kind of want his perspective on a
lot of things, but maybe most specifically what happened in Charlotte,
North Carolina tonight, Tysher let's have the sound ready, the
two different sounds, but I'll set it up here momentarily.
North Carolina came into this evening. Uh, Basically, if you
(03:04):
believe all the bracketology, either one of the last few
teams in the NCAA tournament or one of the first
few out. They're playing one seed Duke without Cooper flag.
We know that ankle Sprain on Thursday did not play tonight.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
Duke at one point had a twenty four point lead.
Speaker 4 (03:21):
Carolina comes all the way back to cut it to
seventy two to seventy one, missed the front end of
a free throw. They still have one more to tie
it up. Alexteischer play the Duke audio of what happened next.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
The second one is on the way. It's a lane violation.
Speaker 5 (03:39):
He made it, but where they're stepped in the lane,
it's it's turnover hand. The Blue level lead stand seventy
two seventy one with four point one to go, where
there's got an early start and the Blue levels still
lead by one.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
That was the Duke radio network.
Speaker 6 (03:58):
Is that the most enthusiastic lane violation call in the
history of the game.
Speaker 4 (04:03):
It might be, but I'll tell you what you know
what was the most unenthusiastic lane violation call. Tyshirt played
the North Carolina sound of the same call.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
Bluebin to tie the game with four point one. The
second free pro is good.
Speaker 7 (04:18):
Violation on Withers for moving early.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
It's kidding me.
Speaker 5 (04:22):
There is a lane violation on Jalen Withers.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
He faked like he was gonna go before the shot
was taken.
Speaker 7 (04:31):
And you're not allowed to make any movements before the
SHOT's taken.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
I liked the audio Tyshert leave the music on. I
love it.
Speaker 4 (04:43):
I love the audio of the North Carolina guy. Just
it sounded like he was at a funeral. He's just
like lane violation, it's over color.
Speaker 6 (04:54):
Guy's better.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
He's just like, oh that guy, Yeah, yeah, that's you
kidding me.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
Yes, no, sir, We're.
Speaker 4 (05:01):
Not unbelievable because listen, it's Duke Carolina. But there's so
much at stake. We're gonna have a bracketologist on here
in about ten minutes from now, and we'll find out
was it winning, You're in losing your out? I don't know,
but Carolina, you know listen, they are a blue blood program.
We understand that, but they just don't have very much
(05:22):
on their resume. Three losses to Duke. Basically, I'll try
to explain this as best as I can in the
least nerdy way possible. But the selection committee breaks up
your wins and losses into what they call four quads. Okay,
the best wins that you can have are quad one wins.
The best losses you can have are quad one losses.
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I bring it up. They have one quad one win. Okay,
but for comparison, some of the teams on the bubble,
Texas has like six quad one wins, Arkansas has six
quad one wins.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
North Carolina with one.
Speaker 4 (05:58):
I think there's an argument that if they aren't North Carolin,
are we even talking about them in the same manner.
But there's just not much of a resume there, and
there's certainly not much of a resume without a loss,
without the win over Duke this evening as they fall
to the the to the Blue Devil's jamut.
Speaker 6 (06:15):
Yeah, yeah, they don't have the resume. Luckily, a lot
of the teams around them don't have a great resume either.
The fact that Cooper Flag didn't play doesn't help when
you lose, but at least you don't get blown up
by twenty plus, you fought back into the game and
then what happens at the end. It just kind of
feels like that's what it's been for Carolina as of late.
But you also wonder it's like, does that uniform does
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that jersey carry some weight when it comes to our
Tournament's better with North Carolina in it than out of it?
I don't know. I mean that's a it's a different
way to look at it. But there would be there
will be some that will argue that they didn't deserve
to be in if they do get in, but they
will just because they're North Carolina. North Carolina has a
lot of built in advantages here. But at the same time,
I think it just shows how mediocre to even less
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than mediocre that program is at this point. And there
are larger questions I know that need to be talked
about when it comes to North Carolina basketball.
Speaker 4 (07:11):
Yeah, I was gonna ask you, you know, I get
the perspective that I don't think they're going to make
a move, and I'll tell you why really quick. Is
that probably about a month ago. This is a little
inside college basketball. But if there's ever a time to
do it, it's now. Hubert Davis had one of those
coaches calls coach. I think it was a radio one
of the Monday radio shows that all these coaches do,
and he basically said, hey, we're behind from like an
(07:34):
nil perspective, and it's not just it's not just the money,
it's the infrastructure around the team. I mean, I think
the trendy thing that I think if you love college sports.
And even if you don't, you know that all these
college football and basketball programs are hiring basically full staffs,
basically of evaluators that are working on the transfer portal,
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working on high school recruiting. It's not just three assistant
coaches do the recruiting anymore. It's a much bigger infrastructure.
By the way, speaking of the ACC Louisville which has
had a double digit lead basically the entire second half,
Clemson has cut the lead to four with one minute ago.
Clemson has the ball, so we'll keep you updated on
that one, and they actually scored, so they got a
(08:16):
two point deficit. Now Louisville up seventy five seventy three.
In the other semi final with Carolina, Carolina basically Hubert
Davis was like, he had a direct quote of we
need more help. You know, even where I thought the
sport was gonna be two years ago, it has changed
significantly whatever. So they just hired a quote unquote GM
(08:38):
to kind of help them with nil stuff. Carolina alum
worked as an agent, so I don't think that they're
going to fire him, but I will say this would
be the second Miss Tournament in three years overall, this
is year number four for Hubert Davis. And if you remember,
they were basically on the bubble that first year until
the end of the season. Then they got red hot
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and to the NCAA Championship game. But even that season,
they weren't good for most of the year. So you're
talking about basically three of his four regular seasons were
basically nothing to speak of. You do make a deep
tournament run last year, you have success, but you're probably
gonna miss the tournament for a second time in three
years this year, and yeah, it's just not good for
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Hebert Davis.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
There's no other way to put it.
Speaker 4 (09:22):
And as you said, Carolina, I know college basketball is
an evolving sport and maybe being a blue blood doesn't
matter quite as much as it used to. But when
you're Carolina and you missed the tournament two out of
three years, that and nothing's official yet, but that's where
it looks like it could be going not very good.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
If you're a Carolina fan.
Speaker 6 (09:38):
Yeah, it looks maybe they make it, but even if so,
it's just like, this is not Carolina basketball. I said
this before, and I say it a lot. I mean,
I grew up in Winston Salem's. I knew a lot
of people. My first girlfriend went to Carolina and I
was there all the time as a matter of fact,
So like that school and the tradition, how much they
care about basketball. We didn't actually do this exercise, but
(10:01):
I was trying to think of what what is Carolina
basketball in reference to football? And I was thinking Michigan.
I don't think they're like I think Kentucky and Alabama
are very similar, right, I think Alabama football and Kentucky
basketball are pretty similar. Then you look at Duke Maybe
maybe Dukes Ohio State, I'm not sure, but like I
look at it like Michigan program, that's that's looking for
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a championship and just couldn't stand what they were seeing.
For such a long period of time. They were going
coach to coach, nothing was working out. Maybe Oklahoma can.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
Really quick, Yeah, go ahead.
Speaker 4 (10:36):
I think Michigan's a perfect analogy. And I'll tell you why.
One little nerdy. But both are really good academic schools.
Speaker 6 (10:42):
Yes they are both.
Speaker 4 (10:44):
What do they always say, Michigan man? Well, North Carolina
has hired internally every coach Dean Smith to his assistant
Bill Guthridge to Matt Doherty, who was a Carolina player,
did not work out, bringing Roy Williams, bring in Hubert Davis.
They haven't had an outside coach for any of our lives,
probably sixty years. Okay, Then where I think the the
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parallel is totally fair is some of the nerdy, behind
the scenes stuff.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
Is that Carolina.
Speaker 4 (11:10):
I think for for the first couple of years of this,
nil Era felt like, Ah, we're Carolina. Kids are gonna
want to come here, and then it's like, okay, but
when you know this SEC school's offered me twice as
much money.
Speaker 3 (11:22):
Sorry, Carolina wanted to wear.
Speaker 4 (11:24):
That that that that baby blue, but just not gonna happen.
Speaker 3 (11:28):
I'll give you a quick example.
Speaker 4 (11:29):
Aj De bonson number one high school player in America
committed to BYU. Matt Norlander from CBS did a long
form piece on his commitment and Carolina's pitch was basically
to him, Hey, with our branding, you'll be able to
make X Y Z on your first shoe contract. And
he was like, Yeah, that's cool. But BYU's offering me
this much money upfront to come there, so I'm gonna
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go to BYU. So you have the same kind of
parallel with with Michigan, where they kind of felt like
they were above the NIL stuff, then they finally embraced it.
They get Bryce under with the number one quarterback. I
just think it's the perfect parallel. I don't know if
you had others that you wanted to get into.
Speaker 6 (12:04):
Mischium was my favorite one. But I was waiting for
you to say that it wasn't good. But you've actually
made me feel better about it, so I'll stick with that.
I think that that also lands with Hubert Davis maybe
getting one more year with them really focused in on NIL,
with the GM coming in and trying to kind of
fix that. Now they realize, Okay, having the Jordan logo
and the Jordan brand and even the Jordan name and
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all that kind of stuff, it doesn't matter anymore. Everything
has changed across college basketball to such like if you're
not playing the NIL game, you're probably not going to
be there very long. I mean even Dabo is going
to have to give in at Clemson. So I mean,
you look at it there, it's just it doesn't matter
what you used to be, and we the further you
get away from being relevant, the further away you get
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from being good, the less of the new generation players
know that you ever were, because tradition has been lost
in this society because everything from day to day, our
memories are so short term. Now I don't even know
how to drive in my own city because I've been
relying on my GPS for so long that when the
GPS goes down, I'm completely lost. I was even thinking
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about that. It's like if I got if I had
to make it to this destination and my phone somehow
was dead, could I do it? And I was thinking
about like this terror of being back in high school
and trying to drive to a state championship basketball game
and going an hour and a half in the wrong
direction and then stopping for a map and realizing I
was now four hours away as opposed to where I
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started from. So I had to drive that hour and
a half back, go through my town, and then go
in the opposite direction down Tobacco Road, only to get
there at the end of the game and not even
see it. And it was a buzzer beat or finish
where our team won. So it's like, I look at
all of that, It's like everything in our attention spans
and technology and all this kind of stuff. Yeah, you
can go find some history, but we don't have time
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anymore for history. We don't have time to go back
and see all this kind of stuff. We know, Aaron,
what North can a lot of basketball is supposed to
look like. And that's why when I see what I've
seen over the last few years, especially growing up so
close to it and knowing how much it matters in
that part of the country, I say, boy, and Hubert
knows it too, Like I love Hubert Davis, but at
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the same time, Hubert knows what it's supposed to look like,
and this ain't what it's supposed to look like.
Speaker 4 (14:20):
Yeah, his quote a few weeks ago they have hired
a GM, but he said, I'm going to increase the staff,
and it's needed. I never would have thought in the
four years that I took the job that one hundred
percent what is needed is a general manager. There's just
so much stuff out there. I mentioned owner, GM, fundraiser,
basketball coach. It's so much on the plate that it'll
take away from doing what's the most important thing, which
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is coaching basketball. And I think if you don't follow
college sports on a day to day basis, that can
sound like an excuse that's the sentiment across college sports
right now. By the way, speaking of the ACC we
do have a final. Louisville holds on they get a
defensive stop. Seventy six to seventy three is the result
that Louisville gets to win. They will face Duke Duke
(15:03):
in the final because North Carolina had a laan violation
with UH with just a few seconds to go, Jaymartin,
I kind of cut you off on the Hubert stuff,
anything any last thoughts here as we put a bow
on this.
Speaker 6 (15:16):
No, I got derailed because I was just I went
to I went to the four Letter website and I
saw Friday's best in the NBA, and the first clip
is Brownie James three pointer over Nicole Jokic. I just lost.
I just lost my entire train of thought when I
saw it. Was just really all I know is that
the Lakers lost that game, and Austin Reeves is really good.
And you and I knew this already when they traded
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Dalton connect as part of that deal. It was just like, huh,
were trying to get why are you moving him as
part of this? That dude can play, You could probably
use him. Dude had like twenty plus in the game tonight,
he can play like he's somebody.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
They need to find a way to hang on to
one hundred percent. Let's see here.
Speaker 4 (15:55):
I know Disaga has given us an update, but the
Denver Nuggets do hold on to win in a game
that Lebron and Luka Doncic were among many who were
not playing.
Speaker 6 (16:04):
But Austin Reeves had thirty seven.
Speaker 4 (16:06):
Austin Reeves had thirty seven, Bronni James had eight, five
at five one of five shooting from the field. This
is the Jays Susmith Show with Mike Harbert, Jason Smith
and Mike Harmon Erreill.
Speaker 3 (16:17):
Tell you what we will come back.
Speaker 4 (16:19):
We will get the authoritative take on North Carolina basketball.
In Out they lose to Duke essentially at the buzzer
on a lane violation. Rocko Miller bracketologists for the Field
of sixty eight will join us in just one moment.
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Speaker 4 (17:44):
Welcome Back Everybody, Jason Smith's Show with Mike Harmon, Jason
and Micro Out Aaron Torres Jason Martin taking you till
two am Eastern. In just a few minutes, we will
have Rockomiller, a bracketologist from the Field of sixty eight
podcast network. He's actually great on brackets.
Speaker 7 (18:02):
I think he's.
Speaker 4 (18:03):
At one of these games, maybe this UC Irvine cal
Poly game. But he'll join us in just one moment.
Before we do, though, let's toss it over the news desk,
Steve Disager. It is twelve twenty five Eastern time. Tell
us what is trending right now, my friend plunty.
Speaker 7 (18:17):
And by the way, you see Irvine, the second place
team is actually trailing late first half. But the Chicago
Cubs are getting no hit in Japan right now. They're
down three nothing to the han Chin Tigers in one
of their tune up games before they face the Dodgers
in Tokyo next week. The Cubs are using their regular
lineup and they're zero for fifteen at the plate, down
three to nothing bottom of the fifth against han Chin Tigers,
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not the Detroit Tigers. And we mentioned earlier in the
show that Lebron James, apparently who's not on this road
trip with the Lakers due to injury, got permission to
go see his son at the state championship game in
Sacramento tonight. His team, Sierra Canyon of LA is trailing
third quarter against Lincoln of Stockton thirty one thirty. Just
(19:00):
for the record, Bryce Drew a Price drew Bryce James the.
Speaker 4 (19:04):
I've called Cooper Cup Cooper fin at least joined, Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 7 (19:08):
Is a senior going to Arizona apparently in the NBA. Yeah.
The Lakers almost pulled it off at Denver without Lebron
James and Luka Donsig and four other injured players. They
were leading with fifty seconds to go and then an
eight zero run for the Nuggets won the game one
thirty one to one twenty six. Austin reeves thirty seven
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points in defeat. Sacramento lost its fourth row. I mentioned
the Lakers have lost four straight. Miami lost at sixth straight,
Houston won its fifth in a row. Minnesota won at
seventh straight. Cleveland won its sixteenth game in a row,
went at Memphis, won thirty three one twenty four despite
forty four points from John Moran. Toronto has won at Utah.
The Jazz have dropped eight straight. Now to college basketball
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in the semi finals of Conference tournaments. Tonight in the
Big East, Saint John's and Creighton advanced. Acc Louisville and
Duke advance. The top two seeds will face each other
tomorrow for the Crown. Duke advanced barely over North Carolina
seventy four to seventy one with four seconds left. The
Tar Heels had the tying free throw waved off due
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to a lane violation, and Arizona has put away Texas
Tech in a Big twelve semifinal eighty six eighty Arizona
against top seed Houston tomorrow. Houston won by twenty over
BYU Iowa fired coach fran McCaffrey after fifteen years. Selection
Sunday is this Sunday. To fill out the NCAA tournament field.
The Seattle Seahawks are signing wide receiver Cooper Cup from
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the Rams. Back to you, Thank you.
Speaker 3 (20:38):
Very much, Steve Disager.
Speaker 4 (20:39):
This is the Jason Smith Show with Jason Jason Smith
Show with Mike Harmon, Jason Smith and microre Out. They
will be back on Monday. Aaron Torres and Jason Martin
filling in for the guys. Tell you what want to
go straight to the phone lines. Is college hoops season
brackets are going to be out, as Steve de Sager
just told you, coming on Sunday, and we got to
get you caught up on everything that you need to
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know going into the weekend. Friday games are almost complete,
so to do, so we're gonna go to the hotline.
Roco Miller, bracketologist for the Field of sixty eight, joins
us Rocco.
Speaker 3 (21:10):
First of all, are you at a game right now?
Are you at a game right now?
Speaker 8 (21:15):
Always a great question. You know, I get out there
all season long and go to see a lot of
these leagues play. Have a vast interest in all thirty
one leagues, so great question. I did get back late
yesterday from Vegas. We'll slow start this morning, but got
caught up quickly and we got a lot of important
games still going on here late on Friday night. So
(21:37):
I'm going to be locked in here in the home
office until the bracket comes out. We'll be doing the
show reacting to all the picks live me and Jeff
Goodman on Sunday, So you know this season, the next
two days will fly by. I can't be distracted in
the arena anymore, unfortunately.
Speaker 4 (21:54):
All right, fantastic, So I'll just let's put aside how
Carolina and Duken, Jason and I have to talked about
it for the last half hour. Was it like, give
us the context? Was this winning, you're in, losing, you're
out for Carolina? Is it more complicated than that? How
do you view what happened in Charlotte with North Carolina today?
Speaker 8 (22:14):
Yeah, that's an interesting question because we have to be
mindful of the fact that in the selection committee room,
these are humans that ultimately vote on teams, and they
might be coming from very different places. We know who
the chairman of the committee of this year is the
Bleck director, Bubba Cunningham at North Carolina. So with just
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all of those dynamics, and again like Cunningham can't be
in the room when they talk about North Carolina. We
get all that, But these guys have been together since Tuesday.
I was with Stu Jackson late Monday night in Vegas.
He's on the committee and he had to be there
Tuesday morning. He wasn't even at the Gonzaga Saint Mary's
championship game. So that just goes to show they've had
a long week together already. And when you do that,
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I served multiple mock committees this year myself just recently,
and I just naturally human human nature. You start to
like the people around you. You know who represents GOO,
and I think that can only help North Carolina. Now,
that's why they're going to be very interesting heading in
the Sunday. That's where the complication comes from that you
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might have been hinting at. I think when you look
at the resume itself, it's really difficult to put them in.
They're one in twelve and their thirteen hardest games in
the quad one. I understand that like eight of those
twelve losses are against some of the very elite teams
of the country. Three of them against Duke. They played Auburn,
they played Michigan State, they played you know, they played Florida.
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So they have a lot of teams that they had
to play. They scheduled the fifth hardest in the country.
There's a place for them that the community decides. So
you know, all the other results, they're perfect besides the
home loss to Stanford. Between Quads two and three, they
won fifteen times. So they built a metric this year,
or it's been out there for a while, but it's
finally on the team chief for NCAA purposes. It's called
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wins above bubble, and part of the purpose of that
is because all of those lower level wins for teams
that don't have as many teams in their league where
they get the constant opportunities at the top, they still
have to matter and they have to mean something. They
add up to something, and that number is has North
Carolina forty second best in the country as of today,
that would be within range of selection. You want to
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be in the top forty five. So if some of
the members are looking at that strongly to try to
figure out what to do with them, you could see
Carolina squeak in. But I think in terms of bringing
wins to the table, like significant and multiple wins against
the field, they're in deep trouble because they only have
the one win over UCLA and nothing else against the
team that's actually going to be in the field.
Speaker 6 (24:45):
Texas didn't beat Tennessee, even though I mean it looked
good for the first half and then the second half,
it just kind of win awry. As I think maybe
you expected when you saw as the kay Ziggler done
nothing in the first half, you kind of assumed that
wouldn't stay that way, But did they have to win
that game to get in. I know you had them
out in your bracket toeer website there, but I wanted
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to double check and just see if some of the
things that you've seen in some of these other tournaments
have given them any life.
Speaker 8 (25:13):
Yeah. So Texas' situation is very unique, just due to
the fact that there's been a little bit of a
precedent set over the years. You know, we've only seen
five brackets. Something that got introduced in the quad system
got introduced, and so one of the things that's been
a good trend and a good rule of thumb that
I've learned from the committee is that if you just
take away the Quad four record, what's their effective record?
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Because most of those Quad four games, especially for US
Coolact Texas, are just easy wins. And their record now
after the loss today is twelve and fifteen. So it's
really far out of bounds, and that's why I'm pretty
far out on Texas. The other thing I'll mention for
them real quick is, you know, a few years back,
we call In Sexton played for Alabama and there was
a really impressive Vandergilt team around that same time frame.
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I want to say twenty eighteen, maybe twenty nineteen. They
both got in with fifteen losses because they have beaten
number one seeds, number two seeds. They had a ridiculous
collection of wins at the top of their resume. This
Texas team does not have that. They needed this Tennessee
win just to have something in that area. Their best
road win was Mississippi State, which is a good roadwin,
but they're like an eight or nine seed. That's it's
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not top of the board level went away from home.
So if you're gonna lose that many times, the committee
had told us over and over again, you better have
some extraordinary victories on your resume. Texas quite easily does
not have that. So I don't think they're going to
hear their name called for Rocko.
Speaker 4 (26:35):
Miller joining US bracketologists for Field of sixty eight as
well as bracketeer dot com. Real quick, not real quick.
We got plenty of time here, But Rocco back to
Duke and Carolina. And this was a question Jay Martin
and I were talking about earlier, and I don't know
the answer, side be curious for you to answer it.
Carolina playing Duke without Cooper flag like like.
Speaker 3 (26:59):
If they had one.
Speaker 4 (27:01):
Do they get less credit because Cooper Flag is not
on the court? Do they get Are they dinged even
more because Duke was less than one hundred percent?
Speaker 3 (27:10):
Or are they are?
Speaker 4 (27:12):
Is the committee truly looking at what is supposed to
be a quote unquote blind resume and who's playing who doesn't.
Is it doesn't really matter to them?
Speaker 3 (27:21):
That makes sense?
Speaker 8 (27:22):
Yeah, it does, it does. And I'll just say this,
It's discussed in the room that and it's well known
in the room who's available and who's not available. And
that goes back to any game that happened throughout the season.
It's not just today. I think today impossible not to
know that. Right if you're watching any channel, it's being
talked about, so you know. And the way the community
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approaches that is it gets discussed, it gets introduced, and
then it's up to each individual member on what it means.
I think the one thing I caution about taking it
too deep is just because Cooper, Flag and Brown were
not available, that doesn't mean, and I'm just kind of
playing it out for you, if North Carolina would have won,
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It doesn't mean that Duke would have won if they
had them. You can't prove that. So the result is
still the most important thing, but you can take you know,
any of that information to your consideration process for whatever
that's worth. So for me being not inside the room,
but also having a lot of good context over what
these committees do each year, I just basically have to
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treat at parn Square because so much of that is
subjectivity and it's the results typically speak for themselves. And
I also would say, you know, we saw Duke. I
know they played Georgia Tech, but when when Cooper flag
went down, they were down by I think nine points
and ended up kind of starting to slowly take control
of that game, end up being plus seventeen without flag yesterday.
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So I think what they taught the committee and they
taught me and and Brown went down a little bit later,
I believe is that this is a darn beat team.
And even if you're beating Duke without those two, it's
a really impressed to win. So I would I would
just answer the question by simply saying they would have
gotten enough credit to get in.
Speaker 6 (29:08):
What do you think about the SEC writ large right now?
I mean, obviously they've been stellar throughout the season. The
only thing that I have wondered, is because we've seen
so much of them playing against each other, is there
an over Is there any risk of overvaluing them? Do
you think anybody in that conference is going to get
overseated or are they as good as advertised?
Speaker 8 (29:31):
That's an excellent question, because I get a little concerned
about that too. Ken Ken Pom put out a pretty
good article I thought a couple of weeks ago about
overvaluing the league. Now again, I'm not gonna I'm not
gonna discredit anything that the teams at the top are
absolutely elite. Auburn, Alabama, Florida, Tennessee, even Kentucky's got a
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really dangerous side, Texas a and m brings a football
game to the basketball court, you know. So there's a
there's a lot of great at the top. But then
you see kind of how teams from Mississippi State on
down built their resumes, and it really kind of starts
to irk you because they basically have a nice set
of wins against each other, and they did a really
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strategic job of getting those wins when they were not
at home, so they picked up all their best road
winds again kind of against each other from Mississippi State
down and that's been really interesting to study and examine.
And I think everybody's in a little bit of a
different spot. I'd say Georgia and Arkansas are in the
safest spot of the bubble mix, assuming Mississippi State's pretty
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safe as well. And then from there it gets interesting
because Vanderbilt is a team you know that I actually
like on the core. I like the way that Byington
built the roster all that stuff. But that's not what
this is about. This is about evaluating the results and
how they scheduled well. Out of anybody near the bubble,
Danderbilt by far had the worst schedule three hundred and
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thirty first in the country by the net non conference
schedule measurement, and the committee taught us forever, if you're
anywhere near the cut line, you're out with a non
conference schedule like that. So just because of that, Vanderbilt
could eat you know, if we see a couple of
bidstill and they could still happen in like the Big West,
if Irvine wins, it could happen in the Mount West,
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if Boise or Colorado State win it. There's a couple
others with Memphis, you know, Looming if they don't win it.
If some of those spots start to go, Vanderbilt could
be in a real jeopardy. I think, as it stands now,
with no good steals officially out there yet, they're going
to be safe and probably up on the ten seed line.
But the culture they start to drift into the eleven area,
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I'd be careful if i'd the Commodores. Then you get
into Oklahoma. You could pick Oklahoma apart, inside out and
sideways and find ways to keep them out. They only
won two road games all year. I know they got
a good chunk of resume wins, especially non conference, that
make them probably survive this and get in. But there's
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a lot of reasons you could pull them out to
And then you know, Texas we covered and I think
that's where it stands, So I think, you know, I
think they'll get the core in and then Texas will
be out, and then we're down to Oklahoma or Andy.
Speaker 4 (32:11):
Last one for you, Rocko Rocko Miller from Field sixty
eight bracketology expert joining us. You know three number one
seeds feel pretty set in Stone Auburn Duke in Houston.
My question is a little bit complicated. It's not just
who gets it. But there's been this perception, fair or not.
And I'm not saying that you would agree with this,
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but there's been a perception that the games on Sunday
don't matter. That basically, you know, Tennessee a few years
ago felt like they should have been a seed line higher.
They win the SEC, they don't get credit for it,
blah blah blah blah blah. I bring it up because
basically everybody that could get that fourth number one seed, Tennessee, Alabama, Florida,
Michigan State are all playing on Sunday.
Speaker 3 (32:52):
I don't even know if there's a question there.
Speaker 4 (32:55):
I just feel like if like say, Michigan State loses
on and gets the last number one seed and Florida
wins or Alabama wins.
Speaker 3 (33:04):
Or something, I just feel like there's gonna be a
lot of people pissed.
Speaker 4 (33:07):
I mean, do you have any thoughts on like does
it actually matter on Sunday or there? You know, I
don't want to put like the Committee's not, you know,
not even doing anything on Sunday, But there is this
perception that the bracket basically gets set on Saturday night
and that Sunday results don't matter, and when you have
four teams battling for a number one seed that could
all be playing Sunday.
Speaker 3 (33:27):
I just feel like it could get a little bit complicated.
Speaker 8 (33:30):
Yeah, it can't get complicated. So you get a couple
of answers to that. So one the committee will be
pretty much wrapped up with the process. The sixty eight
teams will be selected at that time, and then they'll
have to build contingency brackets. Some years they have to
build as many as twenty brackets. They could actually have
to build more than that. They might build only, you know,
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eight brackets, just depends on how it shakes out. With
these potential automatic bids being stolen, they won't know that
till late. You got to wait for the big West, Mountain, West,
et cetera. Leagues that listed already. So there's that part
of it. But that's more bubble related concerns for the committee.
I would say with the teams this year, I think
our four are set regardless of what happens from Saturday on,
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mainly because Florida and Houston have done plenty enough to
lock those spots up. You looked at Florida, they have
the two best roade wins money can buy I mean
neither Platinum, Gold, Elite level Road winds both in the
state of Alabama.
Speaker 3 (34:28):
They go to the.
Speaker 8 (34:28):
Jungle and win by nine, shock the world in that win.
Then they go to Tuscaloosa, one of these teams they
theoretically would be competing with for the final one spot,
and they won there. So Florida and Alabama could actually
meet on the same side of the bracket. And maybe
they are now that might be done now. But even
if Alabama beats them in Nashville, to me, and I
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think to the committee would agree, it's more impressive either
way that Florida won in Tuscaloosa than anything that can
happen in Nashville. And then you go a step further
and you see that Alabama's lost seven the games, Florida's
only lost four. I mean, this decision is pretty much
done in my books. And then you look at Houston,
a team that's ten and oh true, road wins dominated
(35:10):
the Big twelve. They've made it to the final, they
have nothing left to prove. They could lose to Arizona
in the championship game, and I think they're safely in
the one spot. And I think Florida and Houston are
like three A and three B in the order in
the teching order that to go either way. I've been
leaning towards Florida just because, like I said, those two
platinum gold road winds they got in Alabama and Auburn
(35:31):
really make them just kind of show that they can
do it at the highest level. Houston's best road wins
are really good as well. They've wanted Arizona, Texas, Tech, Kansas, etc.
But that's not the same as going to Alberta, Alabama.
So I'm giving the tiebreaker to Florida, but would not
be surprised if it gets slipped by the committee.
Speaker 3 (35:48):
That's really interesting.
Speaker 4 (35:49):
I haven't heard anybody make the definitive case that Florida,
independent of what happens the next day or two, has
the spot locked up. Roco Miller bracketologists for Field of
sixty eight. You can follow on Twitter at Roco Miller
eight Roco No pressure. But j mart and I are
hosting tomorrow and night too, and we're probably gonna be
talking about the exact same things and the exact same teams.
(36:09):
So you know, if you're available eight to eleven Pacific,
we'd love to have you on again. But we appreciate
the time, and you know, stay hydrated, get as much
rest as you can these next few days.
Speaker 8 (36:20):
Okay, no, I appreciate it. Yeah, send me a text tomorrow.
We'll see if we can do it again. As we
to talk to you guys all right.
Speaker 4 (36:26):
That is Roco Miller Field to sixty eight. Make sure
to follow him on Twitter at Roco Miller eight. Lot
of bracketology and a lot of results from throughout the
day in college basketball, Disager is going to come back
and get you all of the details on one of
the craziest days on the college hoops calendar.
Speaker 3 (36:43):
The Sager's Up Next. Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (36:48):
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Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
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Speaker 4 (36:55):
Welcome back, everybody, Jason Smith Show, Mike Harmer, Jason Smith
and Mike Harmon are out. They'll be back Monday. Don't
you worry? Er toords Jason Martin taking you up until
two am Eastern time, so we want to do toss
it over the news desk Steve de Seger, I don't
know if Jason might give you the extended update.
Speaker 7 (37:15):
We have it every sep it's a week night.
Speaker 4 (37:18):
They j Martin, I clearly like you more than Jason
and Mike King, but no, I just thought this was
a good time to bring you in.
Speaker 7 (37:26):
I got to add to what you just said in
the last segment about the Sunday meaning anything to the
NCAA committee. In my very young days, I can remember
in Los Angeles it was the year before Seth Greenberg
became Long Beach State coach. The Big West was a
very good basketball conference. Believe it or not, they already
were going to have three teams going to the NCAA
(37:47):
Tournament and almost a fourth because Long Beach State was
I think twenty three and nine and playing in the
conference final. Unfortunately, back then, if you can believe this,
the Big West Conference final was on during the selection show. No,
I'm not kidding. And so the NCAA Selection Committee said,
Long Beach State, if you beat number one ranked UNLV
(38:11):
right now, you're in. If not, you're out. That's how
they solved the problem. What it was astounding, so needless
to say, it forced the conference to move to an
earlier start time, and now they're Saturday nights instead of
Sunday afternoon.
Speaker 3 (38:27):
I've never heard of that, I do know. I will
tell you.
Speaker 4 (38:31):
When Yukon was in the AAC, and I know it's
only because it's Yukon, but they played in the championship
game one year and it went like double overtime and
it basically went into the selection show. But it was
the AAC and nobody cared. So like I just I think, yeah,
I think that this was literally.
Speaker 7 (38:50):
Three to four bids from this league.
Speaker 3 (38:52):
What is so okay?
Speaker 7 (38:53):
I I early nineties.
Speaker 3 (38:55):
Wow, that's amazing. I did not know that at all.
Speaker 7 (38:58):
Truly stunning, but not a stunning is this. Let's get
to the postgame press conference at the Pig ten quarterfinals
after two seed Maryland has blown out Illinois. Maryland head
coach Kevin Willard at the microphone for the media.
Speaker 2 (39:12):
Coach Dave Ryan Hart w CBK Radio.
Speaker 8 (39:14):
After a slow start by both teams, and there was
a couple of free.
Speaker 2 (39:18):
Throws by Illinois and it was it.
Speaker 6 (39:21):
Was a six to four ball game, and boy, and
things just seemed like it took off for your ball club.
Speaker 2 (39:27):
Then Rice hit four threes.
Speaker 7 (39:28):
I'm not kidding you. This question goes on for thirty
five seconds. Wow, is this out of that?
Speaker 3 (39:35):
So he just did play by play. It's like, yeah,
it was seventeen minutes ago. I like that offensive bound.
Speaker 8 (39:42):
Through the whole box.
Speaker 2 (39:43):
We all know there's got it.
Speaker 3 (39:44):
There's gotta be I'm from New York.
Speaker 2 (39:45):
There's got to be a question.
Speaker 7 (39:48):
And then he proceeded to go another twenty seconds in
the game. I got nothing for you.
Speaker 8 (39:55):
That was great.
Speaker 4 (39:58):
I will say Willard's a pretty funny guy. Hell, he'll
just and he said, I'm in New Yorker. He'll kind
of just tell it like it is.
Speaker 7 (40:03):
That could have gone one of two ways. He chose
the humor route. Wow, congratulate.
Speaker 3 (40:07):
I wonder if they hadn't won, if if everyone would
have been so jovial.
Speaker 7 (40:10):
But yeah, not just one bleue out Illinois. It was
eighty eight sixty five. It'll be two seed Maryland against
one seed Michigan State in a big tear perhaps in
the final this weekend. I don't want to jump the
gun here, but they're both in the semifinals of the
Big Ten. Michigan State over Oregon seventy four to sixty four.
That was pretty close. Game three seed Michigan advanced over
Purdue tonight eighty six sixty eight, and as we mentioned
(40:32):
earlier in the show, Wisconsin three, Ucla Toath eighty six
to seventy. We can update that the Chicago Cubs in
their exhibition will not be no hit in Japan tonight.
They are still getting shut out in the seventh inning
three nothing by the han Chin Tigers. The Cubs offense
is two for twenty one in this game. And as
far as late night college hoops, Mountain West, Colorado stayed
(40:54):
out to a twenty three to eleven lead on Utah
State first at Thank.
Speaker 4 (40:58):
You very much, by the way, UC Irvine in the
Big West, another team, you know, kind of one of
those bad league, good record teams. They are tied in
the Big West semifinals. Thank you to Segar, Jason Smith Show,
Mike Harmon Air Tours, Jason Martin.
Speaker 3 (41:12):
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