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🎙️ Hour 3 of The Jason Smith Show with Mike Harmon!

Jason and Mike open the hour by discussing Giants quarterback Jaxon Dart taking the reins after the team benched veteran QB Russell Wilson. The guys break down what this move means for the rookie and how he might fare with the Giants’ schedule moving forward. Plus, what’s next for Russell Wilson? That and more in Hour 3 of The Jason Smith Show with Mike Harmon!

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Speaker 1 (00:28):
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(00:59):
of words already going on between the Cowboys and Packers
ahead of Micah Parsons Bowl on Sunday. But we know
we had the conversation a couple minutes ago about how, look,
the one team that should go after a quarterback are
the Browns. Forget about this Sanders and Gabriel and all
this crap happening right now. They're great, lights out defense.
If they had any production whatsoever at quarterback, they would

(01:22):
be two and one. And it's a watered down It's
a bad afc North right. The Ravens defense is terrible.
The Bengals have no Joe Burrow for for most of
the rest of the season, and Pittsburgh is just kind
of okay, right, be bold, go get a quarterback now.
You threw out there Russell Wilson a few minutes ago,
and I said, no, they need to go get a quarterback.

Speaker 3 (01:40):
Okay, just understand I need to get.

Speaker 4 (01:41):
A something there because because look, and now the battle
for Ohio also extends to we need a new quarterback.

Speaker 3 (01:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:51):
Uh, Now, the two guys that I'll give you two
names that they can now, there's no there's no sure
fire antswer out there. There's and and teams aren't just
going to trade the backup quarterback just because right, like
the Rams aren't gonna trade Jimmy Garoppolo because he's not
starting right the Red Hey, no, we have hopes and
dreams and if something happens to Stafford, we feel pretty
good with Jimmy Garoppolo coming in, right, So it's got

(02:13):
to be the right kind of situation where the team
can part with a quarterback that has some talent. Right now,
you're taking a bit of a risk, but this is
a risk just for this year. You can start over
again after this year if you don't like it. The
two quarterbacks you can go after right that, I know
we'll get that are gonna be available that you can
get a lot for the first ones in the AFC,

(02:33):
And it's Anthony Richardson because you know with Daniel Jones's start,
they're ready to hand that. You have it now, Daniel,
you're the Sam Darnold of twenty twenty five. Man, we
love you, and the further we could get removed from
Anthony Richardson, the better we are.

Speaker 5 (02:48):
Now.

Speaker 1 (02:48):
Yes, you worry about Daniel Jones getting hurt and Richardson
coming in, but you know Richardson's a sunk cost at
this point, right, I mean, you know you're not going
forward with him.

Speaker 3 (02:56):
He's not gonna suddenly win the job. Next year. You
see how well.

Speaker 1 (02:59):
Joan just playing his first three games, but Richardson has
flashed before. If he can stay healthy and a change
of scenery with a really good offensive coach and Kevin Stefanski. Yeah,
Anthony Richardson's a guy that isla, Hey bring him in
and see I know you could say that, well it's
a rit, yeah, but I know it's a risk. It
has upside because I've seen him have games where boy,

(03:21):
for three quarters, Anthony Richard's been terrible and then in
a seven minute span it's it's two touchdowns in a
field goal and all of a sudden, it's seventeen seventeen.
Like that's a risk that you could take. And the Colts,
I'm sure will want to move on and say, okay,
we're in on Daniel Jones, that the Anthony Richard era
is over and we're going forward. I'm sure he would
be available.

Speaker 3 (03:39):
Yeah, I mean, what's the risk.

Speaker 4 (03:40):
I mean, it ain't gonna cost you much to bring
him in, all right, For the Colts, when as soon
as they paid Daniel Jones the money they did to
bring him in, you knew it was a done deal.
And now you're at a point where he's easier break
glass in case of emergency. You didn't want him, all right,
that's why you went into the market. Play is to
bring in another distressed property that you saw could be

(04:03):
a positive in your offense in Daniel Jones. So yeah,
you shuffle him off. But I don't think the asking
price is gonna.

Speaker 3 (04:10):
Be too high.

Speaker 4 (04:12):
How many other quarterbacks are really out there that are
viable started? I mean, I don't know that I necessarily
want him to bring him in. Is he better than
what I'm putting out there? Is he gonna be better
than Joe Flacco? I mean, I guess he could make
a player or two with his legs, But then he's
gonna be tired, he's gonna go off the field.

Speaker 6 (04:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (04:29):
But there also he also is a guy that needs
a change of scenery, no needs to be able to
get someplace else. And if you're going, you know that
that's a guy who was eminently available, because you know,
the Colts have itchy, itchy fingers to say, hey, we
want to make a move, We really don't want this
to sit here anymore.

Speaker 3 (04:45):
And Richardson has flash.

Speaker 1 (04:47):
I've seen him do it, and again, maybe he's learned
a lot like, look, this whole summer, the competition was
really close, no matter who I I I read about
or talked to. Hey, no, this is a close competition.
Richardson has look good. They just feel better with Daniel
Jones because of the way the offense is.

Speaker 3 (05:04):
Now.

Speaker 1 (05:04):
But but beat writers would have come out and said, hey,
Richardson looks terrible. Richardson, don't listen to that. Like all
the beat writers, the guy's covering practices. Also, this is
a really close competition, And you could say it was
kind of rigged as a competition because clearly, yeah, unless
Richardson is terrific, we're gonna give the job to Jones
because we've seen him succeed in this kind of offense before,

(05:25):
so let's do it. But like now, it's the point, Okay,
as talented as Richardson is, yeah, it's just not working here.
And he's got no future in Indianapolis. He may have
one in Cleveland, and I mean, look, it may not work,
but I know it's better than what they got. Would
Flacco out there right now, and like I said, at
least the very least, he'll make plays with his legs
and he'll be a little bit more dynamic than Flaka was.

Speaker 3 (05:45):
At this point.

Speaker 4 (05:45):
Maybe he gives you a little opportunity to uncork some
stuff downfield. When you look at Tilm and you look
at Jerry Judy and some of the wide receivers you've got,
you've got a couple of pretty good tight ends there
to utilize as well. So clearly you've got a lot
of problems. You're offensively, how should we be kind deficient

(06:07):
at this point? And now you've got Judkins gave you
a little bit of juice in the backfield. We'll see
what he can do going forward. But yeah, trying to
goose this in the trademark. And I'm curious who else?
Who else are you on earthing from a roster.

Speaker 1 (06:22):
The other guy i'm telling you here is Caleb, But no,
the other guy i'm telling you here available that has
flashed a little bit, is a little dynamic, makes plays
with his legs. And you know they want to move
on to the guy they drafted this year. Go get
Spencer Rattler from the Saints. Right, at some point they
got to play Tyler shuck, right, they have to. He

(06:42):
came in, he played a little bit this past week.
Rattler has done enough he's moved the team enough. He
has shown that hey he's not completely overwhelmed, and yes,
he can make plays with his legs.

Speaker 3 (06:51):
He's had a couple of big games. Is he great?

Speaker 1 (06:54):
No, But I know he can give you that little
bit of juice and be again that I keep saying dynamic,
because that's what the Browns offense needs. He's someone that's
available simply because you know, after this year, the Saints
are gonna go after another quarterback. They're in a stuck
place right now with Derek Carr's contract and what they
want to wind up doing. And you know at some point, well,
we drafted Tyler Schuck in the second round. He's got

(07:15):
to get a chance. It's we're zero to three. That's
coming sooner rather than later. So yeah, if we started
Tyler Schuck, we're gonna go back to Spencer Ratley. No,
we can get something for Spencer Ratler. So okay, we
go and worse comes to worst, we tank and we're
drafting arch Manning.

Speaker 4 (07:28):
At the end of this year and lets the Jets
get them first, right, So stay and beat the Giants first.
Since that was the game everybody had circled the whole
time going we're gonna beat that ass when it well.

Speaker 3 (07:41):
We play that game.

Speaker 4 (07:43):
They've been mocking us and everybody's been pointing to that
game for two months.

Speaker 1 (07:46):
So yeah, you're looking at you look at those two
guys that are young, that have talent that again can
get outside the pocket. They're two players that yeah, those
are you, and it's it's not gonna be very expensive
to go get them each team.

Speaker 3 (07:59):
Would you almost be doing them.

Speaker 1 (08:00):
A favor doing this because you know they're gonna make
the move anyway. Go make it now, Go make it
down in two weeks, you got Rattler Richardson's starting for
you and suddenly, hey, and if they don't work out, okay,
then you can go to Dylan Gabriel. Then you can
go to Shador Sanders. Like these are guys that have
done it on the field in the NFL at a
young age. Go do something that helps your team out
right now, do you give them a give them a

(08:21):
little bit of hey, we got your back here. We're
not just gonna let you defense. We're not gonna let
you just go out there every week and give up
fourteen points and we lose fourteen thirteen. We're not gonna
do that to you, like, really, you can contend this
year because the AFC North is bad. I mean, really,
you've shown enough in the first three weeks how good
this defense is. Keep it going, man, People do something,
Do something to help help out, Help out a fan

(08:42):
base that's been starved for all sorts of good news
for the past well, I don't know, twenty five years.

Speaker 3 (08:47):
Go help out that fan base. What just so they
have a new story on the back of the fish wrap.
I don't know. I don't know. They're a little bit
of help. I don't know that rich.

Speaker 7 (08:59):
Hey, let's have a in the town square over their arrival.
It's different, it's different, and I know if I hear something,
even if it's wrong. If I know, okay, if I
know what I have in my right hand isn't working right.
If I have a video game control in my right
hand that I know is broken, it's broken.

Speaker 1 (09:16):
I can't use it. What about the video game control
on your left hand? I have no idea. I have
no idea. Someone just put it in my head. It
could be broken. It could be broken worse than this one,
but it could be working great. I don't know, but
I know the one in my right hand is broken,
so why wouldn't I try to use the one in
the left hand?

Speaker 3 (09:31):
I give you, I give you credit. You could have
just said I can have this.

Speaker 4 (09:34):
Or what's in the box. So you got a little
more creative with the video game. I noticed that you
didn't go to the high price end where it might
be a lot more complicated to make something happen. But
a guy whose team suddenly needs him, and that's whole
Captain Kirk.

Speaker 1 (09:50):
You know, if I didn't hear all those stories the
last few days about how, dude, we think Kirk Cousins
is done, and really the league is telling you they
think he has done because there's no talk. There's not
been one team that has called. Because normally by now
we would get that, Hey sources Vikings called for Kirk
Cousins in the preseason or Raiders call about Kirk Cousins

(10:10):
in the offseason. There's been no teams. There's been no
uh talk at all. No, Hey, we're gonna want to
look into this. What can we do money wise? Would
you eat money for Kirk Cousins? And clearly the Falcons
would do it, right, Hey, we decided to go on
all in on Michael Pennix. So the fact that we
haven't I haven't heard anything from any team at any
point in the last I don't know, six months on

(10:31):
Kirk Cousins tells me the entire league thinks he's done.

Speaker 4 (10:34):
I think some of it was you needed proof of
concept of where he was physically in the process. But
it's also the curiosity of where they're at. Given the
first couple of games we've watched from Michael Pennix junior.

Speaker 3 (10:46):
Oh yeah, he uh, he's not he's not uh, he's not.

Speaker 4 (10:50):
Uh, he's not good, right, especially the expectations of this squad, Yeah,
not good. Right, that it was gonna they were gonna
go and they were gonna win the South running away
and I said, I said, not so fast, thinking that
you still got to run through the through the Buccaneers.
But here you have it that Pennix had one solid

(11:10):
game and then it's been a bit ugly.

Speaker 3 (11:12):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (11:12):
And when you get shut out, what do we get
less than ten of those a year anymore? Right, you
get shut out by the Panthers, it's pretty pretty bad
indictment of where your squad is right now. Just despite
all the headliners on the Marquee, I mean.

Speaker 3 (11:26):
So these are two guys you can go get.

Speaker 1 (11:29):
I like it, I mean be but you know help right,
like go to and you don't put anything at risk.

Speaker 3 (11:34):
That's the best part is that. What about get oh Man?

Speaker 1 (11:38):
Yeah, well you might have to wait another couple of
weeks if the if the Dolphins lose to the Jets
on Monday night, I know, we decided we're not gonna
mention that game because we want people to watch Monday
night football. Yeah, there's two games, two games on Monday.

Speaker 3 (11:52):
Don't worry about off day for Major League Baseball. Yeah,
we'll just make stuff playoffs. Yeah, we'll make stuff up.
I will make it up.

Speaker 1 (11:59):
But if they lose to the Jets, I wonder how
available I got. But then you're worried about getting into
the money for TUA. It needs to be something where
the Browns can say our long term plans, meaning after
this year, are unaffected, but we can still kind of
go for it this year because maybe arch Manning isn't great, right,
we've seen it. Maybe he's not the guy we should
thank for. Maybe Lenora Sellers is really good, maybe he's not.

(12:21):
Maybe Garrett nuss Meyer's great, maybe he's not. But it
doesn't matter. We can try to go for it this
year and if it doesn't work, okay, let's good. We're
we're still starting over next year with a new quarterback
something else. If it does work, great, we may have
our quarterback. We may Spencer Rattler Anthony may wind up
being quarterbacks here.

Speaker 3 (12:38):
Why not? How about that? You never a time they were?

Speaker 4 (12:41):
They were both the flavor of the day, right, Yeah,
Anthony Richardson had that month. Yeah, you actually had that
little sculpture of a statue for him.

Speaker 3 (12:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (12:51):
Boy, I I should have really traded him in Dynasty
right after that one.

Speaker 3 (12:55):
That's Spencer.

Speaker 4 (12:57):
That Spencer Rattler was kind of a big deal once
a lot of time and in the collegiate game. So
I'm in and he's looked all right, I mean through
three weeks, yeah, you know, with somebody outside the division.

Speaker 3 (13:08):
So we'll see what happens there, and.

Speaker 1 (13:10):
Really quick, because because I remember this, and I have
to sometimes sit back and go don't agonize too much
over over fantasy, but I vividly remember because I had
the second pick of the draft and fantasy and I knew,
I knew it's whatever. I knew somebody was gonna pick
number one. I'm going, oh, man, do I take Bryce

(13:31):
Young or Anthony Richardson?

Speaker 3 (13:33):
Like what do I do?

Speaker 1 (13:34):
Like?

Speaker 3 (13:34):
What do I do at number two? Like? Do I
take Bryce Young or Anthony Richardson? Wow?

Speaker 8 (13:38):
What?

Speaker 1 (13:38):
I And I agonized over it for like a week
once I knew that the guy picking first wasn't gonna
pick either those quarterbacks.

Speaker 3 (13:44):
And I like remember going, like my whole week was
like what do I do? Who do I take? Who
do I take? And now it's like it doesn't matter.
It doesn't matter because they both stink. So it makes
no difference how that worked out, isn't it? What are
you gonna do? Yeah? But what can you do?

Speaker 1 (14:00):
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Speaker 3 (14:03):
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Speaker 1 (14:06):
So yeah, go out, be bold, go get it, go
do it, go do it.

Speaker 3 (14:09):
It'll be awesome.

Speaker 1 (14:10):
We got the Cowboys story coming up later on this hour,
because Jerry Jones already is talking about how excited he
is that Micah Parsons and the Packers are on the
schedule this week for the Dallas Cowboys. But coming up next,
John Paul Morosi stops by. We have had an incredible
night in Major League Baseball? Have the Guardians made a
deal with the Devil? Will the Tigers ever win again?

(14:32):
Who's getting that final wildcard in the National League? And
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who once trailed this division by fifteen and a half games,
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(18:00):
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Speaker 6 (18:16):
They they only watched this week the Lions on Monday Night.
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(18:38):
a great job on Lamar Jackson Monday night. That's the
only game my dad's watched this week. They no baseball
watched by him. No, it's uh, this is as as
I had as I was typing out that that post,
I said, my goodness, this, uh, this sounds pretty real
for my for my home state. And it is. Listen,

(19:01):
everything about this game, that the bizarre sixth inning, the
bund that went awry, and then obviously the concern over
David Fry's health and that play in that situation, the balk.
It just it was a surreal series of events. And
now the Tigers can no longer casually explain away what's happening.

(19:25):
This is a this is a collapse of biblical proportions
that is now unfolding. And if they can't right the
ship here quickly, I mean, one of the big concerns
now for Detroit is, of course they lose the tiebreaker
to the Guardians. So it's not only that they need
to keep even with the Guardians, they have to actually

(19:47):
go past them again, and it's just not easy to
do that. The Guardians are hot, playing well. And then
when the Tigers are done playing Cleveland, they got to
go to Fenway, and then the Red Sox just on
a game tonight against a really tough team in Toronto.
And oh, by the way, tomorrow night, the Red Sox
have Garrett Crochan the mound against the Blue Jays, So

(20:09):
you start looking around and asking yourself, where are the
wins going to come from? Where are they going to
get some wins? And they may just have to hope
that the Astros stumble down the stretch. Obviously, the lost
three games playing against the A's tonight now, but the
mathematics no longer favored the Tigers. They are in a

(20:30):
world of hurt and oh, by the way, their starter
on Thursday, his name is t b d TVD is
who they've got starting Thursday's game with everything on the line.

Speaker 4 (20:40):
JPA was interesting you use the term of biblical proportions
because we're wondering if there are any Billy Go Texas
trips to the crossroads that have helped to spur this on.

Speaker 6 (20:51):
Well, I'll tell you what we as michigan Ers, may
need to learn and see exactly what has transpired. If
there is another curse here in our state. We've got
the curse of Bobby Lane. The Red Wings, of course,
ended their long drawback in nineteen ninety seven, but you
do start to wonder back in six there was the

(21:11):
bizarre pitchers having a hard time throwing the bases. A
few different things going on in that era. They missed
the playoffs, the big collapse in two thousand and nine,
But I have not seen anything quite like this. I
guess I'll say this, it's the curse of not re
signing Justin Verlander. He was available last winter. He's gone
on to have a very solid season with the Giants. Instead,

(21:34):
the Tigers, for the same amount of money, signed a
pitcher and Alice Cobb, who did not throw a single
pitch for them this season. Zero did not throw a pitch.
One year contract for more than ten million dollars and
didn't pitch, And they could have signed Verlander for the
same amount of money. For some reason, they didn't, and

(21:55):
now they are sadly for the Tigers dealing with those consequences.

Speaker 3 (22:00):
Yeah, I think it's a little bit.

Speaker 1 (22:01):
It's just to widen the net here, John Paul is
that I think this is what's going on, and I
think you're at the crux of it because every year
you picked the Mariners to win the division, that's where
you picked that. This has been what eight years in
a row you have picked the Seattle Mariners to win
the Als. Now it's going to happen. So the Baseball
God is saying, I'm sorry, there's got to be a
Yin and yang here.

Speaker 3 (22:20):
So I'm giving you the Tigers absolute epic collapse.

Speaker 1 (22:23):
I'll give you the Mariners, who are going to win
that division finally, but you have to take the Tigers
epic collapse.

Speaker 6 (22:29):
Right, and and again. The Mariners get a chance to
try to complete this by by defeating the Kywada Rockies
this week, which I like their chances to win this
series they're playing right now. But you're right, after all
these years of now picking the Mariners. And let's make
this point too. You look at the American leaguees and

(22:49):
guess what team is now just one game back of
the division lead, the New York Yankees. And there were
there were certain teams that we thought if you looked
back two weeks ago, or even a couple a few
days ago, you said, well, the two buys in the
American League could very easily belong to the Tigers and
the Blue Jays. Well, the Jays are now in the

(23:10):
fight for their lives to try to stay in the
top spot of the American League East with only a
one game lead. Now the Tigers are barely even in
the playoff picture, right, now if the Astros win tonight,
the Tigers are officially out of a spot, at least
for the time being. So a lot of things at
play and all the things that you thought were going

(23:31):
to happen, like the Tigers having the best record in
the American League, they may not even make the playoffs.
And now the Seattle Mariners, who, by the way, and
I'll make this distinction, the Tigers had a very passive,
underwhelming deadline. The Mariners were very aggressive, and I think
sometimes when you are aggressive, it sends the right message

(23:52):
to your clubhouse. The Tigers, they didn't, and I think
that as a result, the Tigers have lacked a little
swagger here lately, Whereas you look at the Mariners and
then people like you Hanio Suadez and Josh Taylor who
came over at the deadline, I think those those two
players have helped drive a culture that might finally prove

(24:12):
me right and win the American League West JP and.

Speaker 4 (24:15):
My friend Jason Smith over here has had a nice
roller coaster season with his beloved New York Mets.

Speaker 3 (24:20):
They get it's nice. It's not been nice. Don't tell
me it's been a nice seat. It's not been nice.
It's not nice to use it as a very.

Speaker 4 (24:28):
Positive sounding word, even although we know better incredibly can
anybody that's watched this, But but you've dived off of
their wagon repeatedly. Uh is he going to get to
the finish line with this squad or are they going
to be left on the outside looking into where he's
eating hoggin dass and crying.

Speaker 6 (24:45):
They're in. They're going to be in a big comeback
win tonight at Wrigley and Jason again, they tend to
play well during the weeks in which I'm going to
see them, and I will be there at Wrigley on Thursday,
so I will be there. It's our final MLB Network
showcase game of the week. I get to stay here
in the Midwest. I'm going to go to Chicago and

(25:08):
I'm looking at this team thinking that comeback they had
tonight says a lot about their intestinal fortitude, if you will.
And the other piece of the puzzle that I think
is so fascinating is that Juan Soto has had one
of his best seasons of his entire career this season,
and it's not getting nearly the national love that that

(25:32):
season deserves. He has been outstanding especially lately. And so
I'm bullish on the Mets. And I get to see
Brandon Sproad pitch in person with the first time on Thursday.
So it's it's all falling into place. And and Jason,
I think that my father, the people in my great
home state, they're just hoping to borrow some of Jason

(25:53):
Smith's optimism. They just they want to, uh, they want
to borrow your your perpetual looks, get the sunny side
of life. And I think that if you can share
some of that that zen like status, so we would
greatly appreciate it.

Speaker 1 (26:08):
Good, good, go much guys. I'm gonna give you something
very calm. Hey, have you see Sternsy David Stearns who
runs the Mets, your your former college roommate. Uh, just
you pass this along. I'm so happy. No more petersoner
Maniah the rest of this year. No, no more. I
don't want to see them on the mound again ever
the rest of the season. So you can bring him
that message that nice.

Speaker 6 (26:27):
I will be happy to convey that to him.

Speaker 3 (26:29):
He's been wearing that sandwich board around town. JP.

Speaker 6 (26:33):
Here's my question for you, my esteemed friend and radio host.
I'm going to now turn the question back to you. Sure,
three game series wild Card series for the Mets. Who
are your three starting pitchers?

Speaker 1 (26:46):
Oh, McLain, McClain, rain delay, snow delay, mcclan, mclaan, No, McLain,
sprote and Tom you're going, yes, I'm going to all
the kids. And if you need to piggyback, because I
think piggyback. You know, it's funny we talked without this
last week. You know, the bullpen games have been really
in vogue the last you know, five to seven years

(27:07):
in playoffs major League Baseball. I think piggybacking is going
to be the new bullpen games where teams, oh, we
can do this with our starting pitchers. The Mets started
to do it a little bit ago with some of
their with a couple of their guys, and it worked
a little bit. So I can see a situation where hey,
I can see a piggybacking of say Tong and Clay Holmes,
and that's how they're going to do it. And I
think more teams are going to go, oh, we don't

(27:29):
kill our bullpen. We can you know, we use two
starting pitch, which we.

Speaker 3 (27:32):
Can do, Hey, why not do that? And that might
work out better for us.

Speaker 1 (27:36):
I think the I think that what teams like the
Mets are doing this is the beginning of a new
trend in baseball.

Speaker 6 (27:41):
I love it, and I am sure let let the
Baseball record reflect you heard it here first on the
Jason Smith Show, that this is the new paradigm of
pitching in Major League Baseball in the postseason is the
piggyback instead of the bullpen game. I love the idea,

(28:01):
and let me tell you why I love the idea
the way that you're describing it. If you are putting
a young pitcher into a postseason cauldron, as the Toronto
Blue Jays may also do with Trey Savage, you might
as well have the young man keep the role that
he's had for his entire career. They're all starting pitchers.

(28:22):
It's asking a lot of Jonah Thong to come into
a seventh inning, men on base, complete chaos, you're on
the road, the crowd's going berserk. Why do that? Let
him start? He's been a starter, that's what he's comfortable doing,
and then have someone like Clay Holmes, who has relieved
for most of his major league career, have play do that.

(28:44):
I think that you are now an adjunct professor on
the School of Baseball at City Field, and I shall
convey when I see my good friends Carlos Mendoza, bench
coach Sean Gibbons, I'll convey your your plan, and I
think that it I suspect they will look favorably upon it.

Speaker 4 (29:06):
To get one of those adjunct professorships. Go in there
and speak wisdom.

Speaker 6 (29:11):
Adjunk Jason Smith. Let's get so, Mike. Here's the thing,
maybe for for Christmas, for him holidays, you know, get
him a gift that is Jason Smith adjunct professor is
School of Baseball.

Speaker 3 (29:27):
I think we should start that hard.

Speaker 4 (29:29):
Well, we probably, I mean people would want a degree
in that. I mean they can print one from home.

Speaker 3 (29:34):
It'll work. Let me ask you one one thing before
we let you go. JP.

Speaker 4 (29:39):
Plenty of time to chew this over the off season.
But on Tuesday, the Competition Committee voted to bring in
the robot umps. A lot to be sorted out and
details that we'll deal with over time here, But what's
your immediate reaction to it.

Speaker 6 (29:57):
I think that it's good. It was pitable that it
was going to happen, just based on the data that
had been coming in. The Commissioner talked about this at
length in recent months years. MLB has put a ton
of research and thought into the rule changes, and I
do think this will change the way that we watch

(30:18):
the game in a more profound way than the pitch timer.
The pitch timer, to be honest, guys, I barely even
think about it anymore. I know that it's there, I
know the game is moving faster, but I often don't
think about it. I do think about the number of engagements.
I think about the bigger basis and how many stolen

(30:39):
bases we see now. That stuff I think about, But
the timer I don't. I think this is going to
be a little bit distinctive in that, by definition, multiple
times per game, we're going to be reminded of the
existence of this technology. And I think the most fascinating thing,
Mike will be internal and how teams say which players

(31:03):
can challenge, how those players feel about it, how you
feel if you get a chance to challenge, or if
a teammate gets privileged to challenge at any time and
you don't. It's like having a sibling who has a
different curfew than you do, and it's that is a
very complicated feeling that I think will internally unfold in

(31:27):
fascinating ways that have far reaching implications. So this is
objectively one of the biggest changes we have seen. Of
all the changes that have occurred under Rob Manford, I
think this is one of the most important and most
most transformative, honestly for the game of baseball.

Speaker 1 (31:42):
All right, Lastly, John Paul, your moonlighting job as NFL
Detroit Lions prognosticator. They are favored by eight and a
half points at home this week against the Browns.

Speaker 3 (31:54):
What's the final score.

Speaker 6 (31:56):
Detroit twenty eight, Cleveland seventeen seventeen.

Speaker 3 (32:02):
Wow, you must think twenty eight points.

Speaker 6 (32:05):
In fairness, I was close on the margin of victory
for the Lions over the Ravens. I didn't have the
total points correct, but I was darn close on the
on the margin, So I might be honest with this year.
I got the guys, if the Mariners are going to
win the division, this is the year of the MOROSSI.

Speaker 3 (32:24):
Ah, yeah, but that means you might get cocky. JP.
You got to make sure you check yourself.

Speaker 6 (32:28):
That's how people get trouble within yourself. Within yourself.

Speaker 1 (32:33):
See John Paul Moros The MLB Network Mets and the
Cubs plenty of offense coming up rest of this week
and Wrigley with the wind blowing out. John Paul is
always buddy appreciated.

Speaker 3 (32:42):
Enjoy the games. We'll talk to you next week.

Speaker 6 (32:44):
We're looking forward to my friends. Thank you so much,
see you, buddy.

Speaker 3 (32:46):
Right there goes John Paul Morosi. Great stuff from him
as always.

Speaker 1 (32:50):
He must really think the Lions are gonna score a
lot of points because normally says twenty four, but twenty
eight now for the whoa, that's a big offensive thing.

Speaker 4 (32:57):
Well, I mean, look, he's banking on Joe Flow going
to give up seven maybe short fields, I don't know.

Speaker 3 (33:03):
We'll see eight.

Speaker 4 (33:04):
Aiden Hutchinson maybe with a little punch out and stripsack
kind of thing.

Speaker 3 (33:09):
I don't know, We'll.

Speaker 1 (33:09):
See tim how to find out what's trending in the
wide world of sports. So someone who's been called the
Joe Flacco of Fox Sports Radio, he's had some kind
of career and he is elite.

Speaker 3 (33:19):
It is deep to say thank you.

Speaker 10 (33:21):
I think let's get to the baseball scoreboard.

Speaker 3 (33:24):
Is the Dodgers show.

Speaker 10 (33:25):
Hey, O'tani has pitched six innings tonight for the first
time in two years his era this season two point
eight seven. The Dodgers were up for to nothing at
Arizona in the seventh. By the way, Otani's career ERA
is under three now. Of course, as soon as Otani
comes out, the bullpen gives up a run. So it's
four to one at Arizona at the bottom of the
seventh inning.

Speaker 3 (33:45):
You know you can help me out here, Steve, and
hold on to this lead. You know, I'm just saying
you could. It's right.

Speaker 10 (33:49):
We'll get to Arizona and for San Francisco and Saint
Louis in just a moment.

Speaker 3 (33:53):
But the Dodger I don't worry about them one.

Speaker 10 (33:55):
At Arizona bottom of the seventh Oughtani had eight strikeouts
no walks in his six scoreless innings. The Padres hit
two early homers, including a grand slam. There's still up
six nothing on Milwaukee in the bottom of the eighth,
the Dodgers trying to hold on to the two and
a half game lead over San Diego and the NL West.
The Padres did at least clinch a playoff berth last night.

(34:15):
As for the Saint Louis at San Francisco game, the
Giants had come back for a seven to three lead
over the Cardinals, bottom of the six. Giants have lost
eight of ten. The regular season ends this Sunday. San
Francisco and Saint Louis were three and a half games
out of the final NL wildcard going into today. The
Reds were the holders of that spot. They had won
five in a row, but Cincinnati lost at home tonight

(34:37):
four two to Pittsburgh, and then the Mets hit a
two run homer top of the eighth to win nine
to seven at the Cubs. Cubs have lost five in
a row. The saved Edwin Diaz in New York two
perfect innings, five strikeouts. The Mets lead the Reds by
one game for the final NL wildcard spot, and my goodness,
Cleveland is tied with the Tigers for first place in
the Al Central. Cleveland was down by twelve and a

(34:59):
half game in the standings less than a month ago.
This is the worst collapse since they've had divisions in
Major League Baseball, and that goes back to the nineteen sixties.
Cleveland beat the slumping Detroit team five to two tonight.
Detroit has dropped ten of its last eleven, seven in
a row, and now the Cleveland Guardians had the tiebreaker

(35:21):
over Detroit. Boston won four to one at first place Toronto.
In the AL East, the Blue Jays lead is down
to one game over the Yankees. Yanks got two runs
in the bottom of the ninth edge the White Sox
three to two, and the Yankees clinch a playoff berth
Atlanta won its tenth game in a row. Texas lost
its eighth straight, Miami won its seventh in a row.
Baltimore shut out Tampa Bay. Right now in the ALS,

(35:44):
the Mariners are losing and Houston is losing at Seattle.
Mariners down three to one to the Rockies in the
top of the eighth. In Northern California, it's now the
A's four to one over Houston. In the bottom of
the fifth. WNBA semifinal games over for the night. Las
Vegas at home blew out Indiana ninety to sixty eight.
That best of five tied at a game apiece. Phoenix

(36:05):
came back for an overtime win at Minnesota. Phoenix was
down twenty mid third quarter. Game threes will be on
Friday night. The New York Liberty fired coach Sandy Brondello,
who won the Championship a year ago. They just lost
in the first round as the five seed, and at
the postgame press conference, superstar Breonna Stewart was asked about
her coach maybe not coming back. She couldn't believe the
question was even asked, well, guess what her coach isn't

(36:27):
coming back? Technically, the Liberty declined to pick up her
contract option. Oklahoma State fired and paid off coach Mike Gundy.
He was in his twenty first year there. He has
now owed fifteen million dollars. New York Giants rookie quarterback
Jackson Dart will start this week. Tampa Bay wide receiver
Mike Evans will reportedly miss three to four weeks with
a strain hamstering back to you, Thank.

Speaker 3 (36:49):
You, Steve Oh.

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(37:11):
preview it on Tuesday.

Speaker 3 (37:14):
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Mike and I love putting this content out for you
every single night. Now we are only at Tuesday, but

(37:55):
it is time to look ahead to the game of
the week in the NFL, and really, what's win It's
gonna wind being the game of the year up until
this point, or the game of the first month. Because
Sunday we get the long awaited return of Micah Parsons
to Dallas. Sunday Night Football Packers and the Cowboys. Already

(38:15):
the war of words has been thrown around. Parson says, hey,
sacking Dak Prescott because you know he plans on sacking
Dak Prescott. Uh, sacking Dak Prescott is gonna be painful. Meanwhile,
Jerry Jones.

Speaker 3 (38:29):
Sounds like a threat. I think he has to be suspended.

Speaker 1 (38:33):
Getting it's gonna be painful, Like wow, Uh, that's my guy.
He was always a good mentor for me. But you
know how it is, this is what he's talling. He's
not saying, hey, I'm gonna break his leg. He said
he went full club or laying Yeah, he went, you know,
prediction for the fight, this is like yeah, yeah, of
course it's gonna be pay It's gonna be tough. But
he went on to say really glowing things about Dak Prescott.

(38:54):
For a teammate, but also juiced up for this game
is Jerry Jones.

Speaker 3 (38:58):
Of course.

Speaker 1 (38:59):
Here's Jerry Jones from his weekly appearance on one O
four to three the Fan, in which he said that, yeah,
he's kind of happy at the extra bit of juice
that Michah Parson's coming back to Dallas is going to
bring this game.

Speaker 8 (39:11):
I've said this time and time again, and I thank
the world of Micah as an individual, and of course
knowing well, but and then mind say, I wish him well,
except it's obvious I don't this weekend in terms of
winning the ball game.

Speaker 3 (39:27):
Yeah, don't you know.

Speaker 1 (39:28):
But while I'm talking to you on the radio, got
my middle finger up because I really don't feel that.

Speaker 6 (39:32):
No.

Speaker 1 (39:32):
Uh, here's the thing, right, and this is what we
have told you about Jerry Jones. And I actually saw
this on ESPN today, So congratulations for a take that
we gave you like months ago. How about Look, of
course Jerry Jones excited, right, of course he's excited because
it's all here. Dallas has. They're going to have a
miserable season. Their defense is abysmal, right, And we told

(39:56):
you that For Jerry Jones, winning is a blur line
where he can win on the field or off the field,
and it's all the same to him. If the Cowboys
are great on the field, awesome, right, that's great. But
if the Cowboys are great off the field via relevancy attention,
this is what he craves.

Speaker 3 (40:15):
He knows that, Hey, winning.

Speaker 1 (40:16):
The Super Bowl every year is hard to do, and
we can't do it now thirty years, I've been able
to do it despite the fact they're America's team. But
if he wins off the field with attention and relevancy
and the value of the franchise and the Cowboys still
being the pre eminent franchise and all of the NFL,
which is the biggest sport in the country.

Speaker 3 (40:36):
He wins.

Speaker 1 (40:36):
That's how Jerry Jones measures winning. It's why Dallas has
been They've been able to be mediocre on the field
for the last thirty years because they've been great in business. Now,
the team could probably sell the team for fifteen billion dollars. Right,
If you're buying the Cowboys, it would be at least
fifteen billion dollars, right, It's the same to him. This
is why Jerry Jones can be excited even though, hey,

(40:57):
we got to get a win, X, Y, and Z,
because this is a big game and the trade of
Micah Parsons has made the Dallas Cowboys once again front
and center stage. We're talking about this game that's coming
up in five days on Tuesday. This is winning for
Jerry Jones. It's why the Cowboys don't win on the field, because, hey,
most owners want to win. Hey, we want to want
to win, but Jerry Jones likes to win this way

(41:19):
as well. In some ways, it's better for him to
win off the field because it's about him. It's not
about the Cowboys winning. It's about Jerry Jones. This is
nothing that's different. But congratulations to people who figure out
right now.

Speaker 4 (41:30):
Yeah, look to be clear, as I've said the I
understand we're counting super bowls. They got five double digit
win seasons in the last nine years. Damn it, I
got that in my lifetime for crying out loud.

Speaker 3 (41:43):
Okay, so we need to calm down there.

Speaker 4 (41:46):
What I want to see, though, is Lafleur get really creative,
because that secondary stinks. I want to see him run
Micah Parsons out and just let him run a fly route.

Speaker 1 (41:58):
I wish they'd have a thing where you could call
play like that. That would be awesome.

Speaker 3 (42:01):
Just let him go out and try try one deep ball.

Speaker 4 (42:04):
Look, I umiliated you because I scored a sixty eight
yard touchdown and I sacked your quarterback twice.

Speaker 1 (42:10):
Take that exit out a bout a Fresca exit, swollen dove,
Jason Smith, Mike Harbon.

Speaker 3 (42:14):
Remember this is how Jerry Jones wins. It's the only
way coming up next.

Speaker 1 (42:19):
A big game from this Sunday where I feel better
about the team that lost than the team that won.

Speaker 3 (42:25):
That's next. Jason of Mike Fox Sports Radio
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