November 30, 2024 • 40 mins
Veejay Huskey & Arnie Spanier chat with NFL Offensive Tackle and former Dolphin, Richmond Webb as a surprise guest for the show!
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Vernon Husky playing quarterback the Big Vanilla Funny and I
have a big surprise for my friend Arnie Spanier. Arnie,
you are a big Miami Dolphin fan like myself, Sir,
Yes we are.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
You're a true Miami Dolphin fan like myself.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
Our special guest is none other than a seven time.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
Pro baller, a two time All Pro.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
He was the Sporting News Rookie of the Year in
nineteen ninety. He was the ninth overall pick from Texas
A and M in nineteen ninety, drafted to take care
and protect one Dan Marino, the greatest peer passer in
NFL history.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
This brother has been on my show several times.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
This brother has done virtual shows with me when I
was on iHeartRadio, speaker dot Com. Vj's on sportsman like conduct.
He is truly a friend to me. He is truly
a mentor and a big brother. And he's taking time
out of his Black Friday to talk to us. I'm
talking to none other than a finalist, a finalist finally
for the twenty five NFL Pro Football Hall of Fame,
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mister Richmond Webb.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
What's going on, big buddy?
Speaker 3 (01:30):
Hey VJ?
Speaker 4 (01:31):
What's up?
Speaker 3 (01:31):
Brother Arnie? How y'all doing?
Speaker 1 (01:33):
Hey, rich Rittans, thanks for joining us. I love it.
I told you, Arnie, I had a surprise for you, baby,
I love it. I love it absolutely.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
I knew you had a surprise. Richmond. How's the family,
Let's start there. How's your lovely family, lovely wife?
Speaker 1 (01:45):
Man? How was the Thanksgiving?
Speaker 3 (01:48):
Man? Thanksgiving was good? Family is good? All that? How's
your son? You know that's my main man?
Speaker 1 (01:53):
I know that's your dog.
Speaker 4 (01:56):
And before I forget man, we hadn't chopped it up
in a wild big congratulations on Michigan winning the national championship.
We ain't chopped it up in a while, but I
know you're a huge Michigan fan.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
Yeah, thank you. I appreciate you.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
Brother.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
I drunk two bottles of the kieling O Bottle champagne
that night. You would have thought I was part of
the damn team. And I feel like Richmond, you know me,
You know how crazy my mind is. I feel like
I'm part of some of my favorite teams. Like I
feel like I'm part of the Dolphins. I don't know
how you are. See, thank you.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
Don't hear that out there America.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
There's a former Miami Dolphin telling me that I'm part
of the Miami Dolphins.
Speaker 4 (02:32):
Man.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
Now you went to a high school football game tonight
out there in Texas. That's big time out there. Who'd
you go see how the game play out?
Speaker 4 (02:39):
I went to go see Columbus High School versus Yoakama's
two small countrytown teams. Okay, the game was it fifty
six to forty two? It was like, yeah, it was crazy.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
Okay, So I guess nobody knew there was playing defense then,
I no problem, not at all.
Speaker 4 (03:00):
I got home in time to see the overtime with
Georgia and Georgia Tech.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
That game just ended.
Speaker 4 (03:07):
Georgia one from forty to forty. Wow, that's crazy. And
Georgia Tech let him slip away.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
They did had this game. They had this game.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
Man.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
So so let's start with last night.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
Man.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
You and I we talk a lot, We talk a
lot of Dolphin football. Of course, last night they going
to Labo and uh and uh, you know, and drop one.
It was one of my question mark games last week
leading into this season as far as I mean leading
into this stretch of the season, is this game and
then there is a road game at the Texans. I
think they'll take out the bum ash just both times.
I think they could beat the Browns and they could
beat the Niners. But just for what you saw last night,
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where do you see this Dolphin team moving towards the
end of this last stretch?
Speaker 1 (03:45):
And do you think we can make a playoff run
of getting the playoffs?
Speaker 4 (03:48):
I think the playoffs is gonna be really tough.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
If we could have.
Speaker 4 (03:51):
Won this game, I would have felt much better. But
we have no room for margin the era, and I
believe that we might need a little help just to
get in there.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
Bet.
Speaker 4 (04:04):
Speaking of last night, I just think it took them.
We dug too deep of a hole too quick, and
you can't do that on the road and against a
green Bay team that's you know, that's a really good team.
I was looking at it last night, and you know,
you got Detroit, Minnesota and green Bay and green Bay
sitting at third with three losses. Minnesota's got two and
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Detroit Liones got one. So that's probably one of the
tougher divisions in the NFL right now. So I know
they were gonna be a formidial opponent, and I know
that they had a really good team. Jordan love good
quarterback stuff like that, and going to Lambo is always
tough playing there.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
So I know we're gonna be an easy seat.
Speaker 4 (04:46):
But when I saw mustaplunt and they recovered it early
in the game, I was like, we can't keep making
mistakes like this because it's hard to dig out of
a hole like that.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
Oh absolutely, Richard.
Speaker 5 (04:57):
Which is easier to block for obviously your block for
Dan Marino, but he was a statue back there.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
What about a running quarterback?
Speaker 5 (05:04):
How tough is it for somebody to go ahead and
block for somebody like that?
Speaker 3 (05:08):
I think it.
Speaker 4 (05:09):
You know, it's two different styles, but long thiss is effective.
You know, if you got a you know, a Lamar
Jackson or or somebody like that. You just try to
stick with your man on your assignment. You're not gonna
know where he is all the time. But he had
such big playability, not only with throwing the football, but
making plays with his legs and you know, running the
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football a lot of times that can really frustrate defenses
and keep change moving. But like you said, Dan was
a statue, but you couldn't get to him, and if
he tried to blitz him, he would make you pay.
And if he sat back and gave him too much time,
he was gonna make you pay.
Speaker 3 (05:45):
So you just had to pick your poison.
Speaker 4 (05:47):
So it just depends on the type of quarterback you're
blocking for and you just do your best. If you
trying to look and see what's going on behind you,
you sure enough gonna be in trouble.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
Well, the reason why a lot of people couldn't get
to h was too gentlemen by the name of Richmond
Webb and Keith Simms. That's for damn sure, there's the
reason why nobody could get to them. But something else
that's coming out of game last night.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
I didn't like it. You have Brooks calling them soft,
and I'm never one.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
If you want to say, listen, we gotta get tougher
as a team, we gotta, you know, we gotta you know,
buckle down, anchor down, hatch it down, however you want
to describe it. But when the guy's like, oh yeah,
we're soft, we played soft, I think the elements came
into it. Well, brother, you're on the defense that missed
twenty two tackles, so you're part of that. When you
hear something like that, are you a fan of that?
And do you think that the Dolphins, this Dolphin's current
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team is soft and needs to get tougher.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
No.
Speaker 4 (06:40):
I don't like when players do that because that's a
you're saying everybody, including everybody, and that's all inclusive, and
that's never the case. When you have a great game.
You can have a great game, great win, and everybody's
not gonna play well, and vice versa. You can have
a really bad game, but some guys play well. Even know, overall,
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as a team we didn't play well, but individually you do.
And a lot of time, all that does is separate
the locker room. And I know he's frustrated, but it's
the other guy's frustrated as well.
Speaker 3 (07:13):
But this doesn't help.
Speaker 4 (07:14):
The calls by, you know, calling out everybody saying we're softed.
If you felt that way, I feel like you've been
feeling that way, not just from last night, You're feeling
that way for a while. And you know it's different
factors you got to look at. But you got to
be real careful when you just finished the game and
you hadn't had an opportunity to look at the film yourself,
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because the first thing I want to do is look
at the film and say, Okay, a lot of times
you think you don't play that well, but actually even
play as bad as you thought. And then something you
think you really play well, you feel like, man, it's
a few other things that I could have done well.
Speaker 3 (07:52):
But you going by what.
Speaker 4 (07:54):
You kind of remember in your head that you're trying
to go through seventy plays, you can't do that until you.
Speaker 3 (07:59):
Watch the film.
Speaker 4 (08:00):
And that's why I just think he kind of jumped
the gun a little bit. And if you're gonna address that,
address your play in yourself and then or like you say,
you know we as a team, but when you say no,
we just soft and this and that, I'm like Nona
that I don't like that at all.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
I didn't rich fordle me asking this. You know, you're
in Miami for ten years.
Speaker 5 (08:20):
After practice, after one game, you go down to the beach,
you have a my tie. It's December, it's seventy two degrees.
The following week you gotta go to Green Bay and
all you guys are complaining you're freezing. You're like, where
can I How tough is it to play in that
type of weather?
Speaker 3 (08:40):
It is? I think that.
Speaker 4 (08:41):
I think the thing you gotta you gotta, you gotta
make up in your head is you already know it's
gonna be cold, but you got to really focus in
on your assignments and try to keep the change moving
if you can kind of get the game going and
get the offense moveing and stuff like that. You don't
sit there and just focus on it's cold, because when
you get to the sideline, you either put the jacket on.
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You got heated benches, you know, you just stick your
feet in there and warm them up if if it's cold,
but you actually moved around when you're out on the field.
Speaker 3 (09:12):
That if you can.
Speaker 4 (09:14):
If all you're thinking about is is cold, you're done
before the game is over. I'm not saying guys done
that bit, just so it's just a mentality you got
to kind of develop and say.
Speaker 3 (09:25):
Hell, it's cold. I already knew it's cold.
Speaker 4 (09:27):
I got to go out here and play anyway, So
don't try to put too much on it. I just
had to sometime I would go out for pregame and
you know, you warm up, but if you put too
much stuff on, I didn't feel right, like I felt
heavy even though I wasn't. Or you said, okay, I
need to take some of this stuff off. So you
just try to balance it out. But most of the
time you're gonna make it through and it's not that bad.
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But it's just a mindset and you just every guy's
got to do it individuals, but some guys they just can't.
Speaker 3 (09:56):
You know what I'm saying. Some guys deal with it
better than better than others.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
I can tell you, Yes, uh, Richmond, you you were definitely,
you know, a tough guy.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
You weren't soft at all.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
Stat I love here and I brought this up to
you when we used to do my old show. Eight
of your thirteen years, you were a sixteen sixteen guy,
and at one point you did it seven straight years,
and then there were three years you were fourteen. You
missed a couple of games. If you started fourteen, guys
like you had. I always say the best ability in
sports is availability. When you see certain guys kind of
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heard missing gains, things of that nature, just talk to
a guy like yourself who is a finalist. Finally, and
it's and it's long overdue for you to get elected
to the Hall of Fame Pro Football Hall of Fame
and twenty five. But looking at the league today as
opposed to the league that you played in. I'm not
going to ask you whether you like it or not,
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because I know it's a fraternity of brothers. But just
the differenceness of toughness do you see that there is?
That's something that's overblown from blowhards on radio on TV
like us.
Speaker 4 (11:00):
No, it's a different game now, and I think you
kind of see it, uh trickle down even throughout outtake basketball.
I ain't gonna say all sports, but I know I've
seen the difference in the shift in basketball. It's not
as physical as it was in the nineties, when you know,
you actually had five guys out there, but the positions
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were more defined I mean, you got guys that were
seven foots that can bring the ball up and shoot
the three. You know, before you used to have a post,
power forward, small forward, shooting garden point guard. Now it's
almost like everybody can just interchangeable, and that wasn't the
case back then. And you know, you bring up a
(11:43):
good point, but I think with the NFL and stuff
like that, now it's such a push on safety, the
concussion and all that, so they really took a lot
of the hitting out of it. I think during the
season only have leven padded practices maybe leven and and
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they don't even do tour a days. I was about
to say to a days, but you know one of
their practices. So it's changed tremendously.
Speaker 3 (12:11):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (12:12):
And even as a physicality, it used to be if
a receiver was running a route across the mills, whether
he caught the ball or not, he was gonna get hit.
It was a way of intimidating or sometime change the
whole minimum momnimum of a game. If you know, you
can't cross the mill and they laid the guy out
and they had to take him out a lot of time,
that would affect the whole attitude of the team you
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were playing against, and so it was an intimidation thing
that we had to play with and deal with. And
and like you said, even if you were hurting Nick,
you kind of found a way to to, you know,
buckle up and just say, hey, I gotta gut.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
It out and do this and that.
Speaker 4 (12:51):
But now it's it's been change. So I don't necessary
fault all the guys because they're just playing then the
parameters of what the league is allowing or not allowing
them to do. So I will say it is a
change is different than when I played.
Speaker 5 (13:10):
Yeah, Richard, I gotta ask you, did I see you
in a highlight a couple of days ago, the thirty
year anniversary of the damn Marino fake spike?
Speaker 1 (13:18):
Where were you on the offensive light? What did Dan say?
Did you say, I'm gonna fake it, I'm not gonna
Did you know what he was doing for crying out loud?
Speaker 3 (13:27):
You know, bro, I will tell you.
Speaker 4 (13:29):
You know, it's funny story behind that because you see
the play and they say, yeah, even the line didn't
block anybody. So normally in the clock play, you know,
he gets the ball and just spikes it in the ground.
But he faked it, and so when we threw a touchdown,
that's why if you watch it, you see the lion react,
offensive line react like you know, we're not blocking them
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r And then all of a sudden, we're kind of
like reacting because now the D line is trying to
you know, rush again. I'm like, what you doing? So
it's just not a reaction. So after the game, I
went up to I was like, man, why y'all didn't
tell us that's what y'all doing? And and they said, oh,
if we would have told y'all, y'all would have screwed
it up.
Speaker 3 (14:13):
I was happy we got to touch down. Hold up, man,
you can't. You can't be handling my boy. You got
to feel a little bit more love than that.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
So you didn't know, no idea what's coming?
Speaker 3 (14:24):
Huh? Yeah, you know we got an image de hole.
You know, big man.
Speaker 4 (14:29):
You know we don't want to look crazy out there
on the field either. It's like I was, man, I said, okay,
you you got, you got, we got to touch down.
Speaker 3 (14:36):
We got to win.
Speaker 4 (14:37):
I ain't gonna switch too hard on that, but yeah,
I wasn't happy about that.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
A couple of quick ones Richmond for you lad to
get out of here. You know, I was always like
the actual fun question, the most the guy you were
most hyped up to play.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
What d ND just did it for you?
Speaker 3 (14:51):
Man?
Speaker 1 (14:51):
You knew when you was facing that guy, you better.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
Eat your weedies, you better do your push ups, you
better drink your prote shirt, you better be locked in
for that game.
Speaker 1 (14:58):
Who was it for you? Man?
Speaker 4 (15:00):
That's an easy one. That's an easy one, bro. That's
that's Bruce Smith. Bruce Smith, Bruce Smith. And you know
everybody always talks about the two hundred sacks, and you
know he was a great pass rushing, but he played
the run, you know, trying to cut him off, trying
to reach block him. It was like, no matter what
the play was, you was gonna have hell and wasn't
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no one you could take off, and uh, you just
know it's gonna be sixty minutes of hell. But that's
the toughest guy that I had to play against. And
sometime we faced him two for sure, and sometimes three
in the playoffs. So yeah, that's that's an easy one.
I don't even have to think about that one right.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
There, Richard.
Speaker 5 (15:40):
I wanted to beause I know you were a top
ten pick. A lot of people don't know that. How
long did it take you to get up to speed
and really feel confident in the NFL? How long should
we be giving these quarterbacks like Cago Williams.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
What would you be telling Kable.
Speaker 5 (15:52):
Williams right now if you could sit down and talk
with him, the quarterback for the Bears.
Speaker 4 (15:57):
Yeah, I'll address poort A first and then I go
to Park B. When I came in I think the
thing that truly helped me was I got in camp early.
I had a great offensive line coach because me and
Keith came from like option style programs Texas A and
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M and our state in topic, so we had to
go from one extreme to the other one to throwing
the ball, you know, eighty eighty five percent of the time.
So he worked with us in the two point stands,
getting us ready. So we played all of preseason, we
got all those reps, plus we got reps two a
days in training camp, so it was like we was
on a crash course. But I think playing all those games,
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those preseason games and getting all the reps, and the
good thing was the two guys that were starting, they
were they were holding out for contract to go. You know,
they were trying to get their contract redone and so
we got all those reps and I think that really
helped speed up the process to where we were able
to make the adjustment quick.
Speaker 3 (17:00):
I think the.
Speaker 4 (17:00):
Thing that I don't like now is even with these quarterbacks,
I think some of them, they play them too early,
They don't give them sometimes. I think some guys need
to sit that it just depends on the organization, what
the need is this and that that. If you're a
top five pick, they'll just throw you out there, and
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then when it doesn't work out, they don't try to
develop the player all the time. They just cut them
and say we'll just grab another quarterback. So I don't
like that aspect of it because I think sometimes you
got to figure out what a guy does well, put
him in the best positions, and maximize what he really
does well, rather than just throwing him in an offensive
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system and saying this is what we run and you know,
you adjust to it, this and that. So I think
a lot of times there's not enough time to really
work on developing and getting them to become a really
good quarterback. So it just depends on the situation. It's
not everyone bit with With Caleb Williams, I definitely tell
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him to look, bro, you already knew the situation.
Speaker 3 (18:07):
She came in.
Speaker 4 (18:08):
It's a reason Chicago had the number one pick. So
you know, it's some things that's got to get fixed.
It's not gonna get fixed overnight. But continue to work,
you know, get with one of these quarterback trainers or something,
you know, in the off season, and continue to hone
your crafts and you know, hey, you're probably gonna be
there for a while, so you got to poach the
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game like that. And I think if he does that,
I think he'll be Okay.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
We appreciate you, Richmond. We got to get out of
here and pay some bills. I love you, brother, God
blessed you and your family. Great stuff, great conversation, man,
Thank you so much for jumping in and doing this
for me.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
I love you, brother man.
Speaker 3 (18:45):
I love y'all too. Thank you so much.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
All right, that's Richmond Web for Miami Dolphin. He'll be
up for the Hall of Fame. We got to jump
out of here. We ran over a little bit right there.
Don't be mad at me, but I gave you all
some good stuff. Arnie will talk about the surprise I
just gave you right there. Vijay Vernon Husky, Arnie Spanning.
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Speaker 2 (19:55):
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Underground had a cameo in that movie. And Tupac is
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Speaker 1 (20:35):
Arnie, did you like your surprise? I did. I love
talkt to Richmond. That was a lot of fun.
Speaker 5 (20:39):
So you may even have some breaking news because I,
for you know, just a couple of days ago they
played that thirtieth anniversary.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
I saw the videos of the Dan Marino with.
Speaker 5 (20:48):
The fake spike, and that's what made me think, I go,
wasn't Richmond on that line?
Speaker 1 (20:52):
Yes, I didn't know if he was heard. I never
knew if he had done that.
Speaker 5 (20:56):
In his own mind, or if he had told his
offensive line and if they were surprised.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
So now we know the.
Speaker 5 (21:02):
Answer, well, and I I always thought they were surprised though.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
You know he told I asked him that about five
years ago. Okay, So that's why I didn't jump in.
That's why when you asked, I said, oh, cool that way,
because if I'd have asked it again, it would have
sound it would have looked too fake to him, He's like,
hold on in this brain. Of course, by VJ, you've
asked me this before, so I'm glad you asked it.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
So it was really cool that you that you asked
that question.
Speaker 5 (21:25):
You can tell he likes talking about him about of course,
if there was something I'm sure do UL talk about
every year that they show a highlight of that.
Speaker 1 (21:33):
I mean, that's probably one of his highlights of his career.
Speaker 2 (21:36):
And listen for it's so Marino for the answer to be,
why ain't you tell us?
Speaker 1 (21:41):
Man?
Speaker 2 (21:41):
If I'd have told you, all, you guys would have
screwed well, say screw he's you guys would have bleaped
it up. And when I asked, I said, he said
that he said, it would have straight faced VJ. So
Dan wasn't joking to him. It was like, man, if
I told you guys, you guys would have you know,
bleeped it.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
That was between him and Mark Ingram.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
Nobody else, the coaching staff, Shula, nobody else knew what
was going on.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
I tell you who does know what's going on.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
And that is the best update man in all of
foot The Sports Talk Rady on my opinion, mister Steve
the Sega, you're up, buddy, Hello Jens.
Speaker 7 (22:14):
And everything's final now in the NBA, because it's just
gone final in LA with the Thunder beating the Lakers
one oh one, ninety three Shay Gilgis Alexander thirty six
points wins for Portland and Miami.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
Detroit as well.
Speaker 7 (22:27):
Boston won its seventh straight game, Memphis won its fifth
in a row, Orlando won its fifth straight game, and
Minnesota had lost four in a row, but edge the
Clippers ninety three ninety two wins for New York and Atlanta.
In college hoops, West Virginia in overtime beating number twenty
four Arizona and thirteenth rank Perdue won a tournament championship
in San Diego, eighty to seventy eight over twenty third
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ranked Old Miss. And then there's the college football game tonight,
which ended at seventh ranked Georgia after midnight Eastern time.
In eight overtimes, the Bulldogs came back to beat rival
Georgia Tech forty four forty two. Georgia was down seventeen
nothing at the half. Bulldogs have now won thirty one
straight at home this season. They're ten and two overall.
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Iowa was down ten nothing at home to Nebraska tonight
in the third quarter, but the Hawkeys won at thirteen
to ten on a fifty three yard field goal on
the final play, set up by a late sack and fumble.
Number eleven Boise State beat Oregon State thirty four eighteen,
fourteenth ranked Old Miss over Mississippi State twenty six, fourteen
and number twenty five rank Colorado shut out Oklahoma State
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fifty two to nothing. The Chicago Bears fired head coach
Matt Eberflus. In the NFL at Kansas City today, the
Chiefs handed the Raiders in eight straight loss nineteen seventeen.
Las Vegas in such a close game, missed field goal
attempts from fifty six, fifty five and fifty eight yards
Raiders had nine penalties one hundred one yards. Chiefs offense
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on red zone tds just one of five, but they
did have the one, and matthew Wright was four of
five on his field goal attempts, only one make beyond
thirty five yards, and the Chiefs clinched a playoff spot
for the tenth straight year. In the NHL, Washington and
overtime defeated the Islanders five to four San Jose eight
to five over Seattle. Late game at Vegas went to
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the home team four to three over Winnipeg, whose record
now is eighteen and six, and the Dodgers resigned Tommy
Edmund to a five year extension. He was NLCS MVP.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
Back to you appreciate ate, Steve, Thank you so much.
Speaker 3 (24:32):
Man.
Speaker 2 (24:32):
What a crazy, crazy game that was, Arnie, for that
thing to end like that.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
Already, I want to jump.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
To some before we jump into some NFL games in
preview and things got mixed up because I didn't know
when I was gonna have Richmond.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
I found out what time and how I was going
to be.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
We had already done the run now, so we are
going to get into ladies and gentlemen, don't worry about it.
We're going to get into our top NFL games. We'll
talk about Phillya, Baltimore, Pittsburgh at Cincinnati, the Chargers at Atlanta,
which is bigger for all those teams.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
We'll get into all of that.
Speaker 2 (24:59):
But we had some move some things around and also
to we are coming to you lie from the TI
right dot com studio. Arnie span your VJ Forner Huskie
in for Jason Martin and Mike Harmon. But something I
want to read here, man, this is really interesting. The
tweets are off the chain. Yeah, Arnie, as you see it,
you just screenshot at me something. I want to thank
that God for the props. See, that's the stuff I like. Man,
When somebody recognized the skills and puts it out there,
(25:21):
I appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
Thank you very much. I'll read you in a minute.
Speaker 2 (25:23):
But if you have you seen this, Joe Judges, Burner Berner, Okay,
this is crazy, man, go ahead.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
Are you looking at it right now? I don't, okay,
but this is just cool. This is deep and I
just want to see what you think about it said.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
The Chiefs are absolute frauds, garbage trash bag team aight
and O'Connell carved up that eighty five Bears defense.
Speaker 1 (25:42):
We keep hearing about needing.
Speaker 2 (25:44):
A kicker to miss three field goals to win it
home as fourteen point fades one and done in the playoffs,
I promise you whoa wow.
Speaker 5 (25:56):
Yeah you know, Army Joe, what you got on that, Arnie.
I don't know one of the the playoffs. But he's
he's right about everything he said. I'm not gonna call
them trash, but three miss field goals a bad Raiders team.
Speaker 3 (26:07):
Though.
Speaker 5 (26:07):
The Raiders, as you mentioned yesterday when we were filling in,
beat Kansas City two of the last four times in
Kansas City. It's a divisional game. I don't want to
make excuses. We know what's going on with the Chiefs there.
You know they they win, but they don't cover. They've
played a lot of one one score games out there.
Speaker 1 (26:27):
But he's right.
Speaker 5 (26:27):
I mean, you're talking about a bad Raider team. They
couldn't even run the ball against. If this was the
Buffalo Bills and the Chiefs played the same game, the
Bills would have won by two to three touchdowns. The
Lions would have won by two to three touchdowns. But
it wasn't them. They they did what they had to
do to beat them. But he's one hundred percent right you.
(26:48):
Sooner or later it will catch up to you, Uh,
Kansas City Chiefs, especially when you have to go on
the road, or especially when you play a much better team.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
Well, I had news, I had news where siate you
at stinking jeans at big Vanilla funny. He says the
Chiefs are the greatest clutch team of all time, winning
an NFL record fourteen consecutive one position games despite Andy
Reid punting at midfield on a gimme fourth and two conversion.
Al says Kansas City would convert most seventy percent of
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the time.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
AI.
Speaker 2 (27:21):
I think that is ai AI okay, says they put
a period there for me a head news help me out, buddy, hey,
I says Kansas City will convert almost seventy of the time.
Speaker 5 (27:31):
But is it clutch when you're supposed to beat these
teams by a lot and you and you like, is
it clutch? If the you know, the Lakers are supposed
to beat the team by ten points and they win
by a point and they hit.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
A last second shot, I guess it's clutch. Yes, it is.
But you're supposed to beat them anyway.
Speaker 5 (27:47):
Yeah, it's But is it clutch for Kansas City when
when the Raiders missed three field goals? Is it clutch
for Kansas City when the Raiders snapped the ball and
you know, it hits the hits the guy and the
shoulder wasn't paying attention. And by the way, there has
to be an investigation at the ending of the game.
I'm not sure why that play was allowed to continue.
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If it was an illegal shift, the play is dead
at the point it's supposed to be.
Speaker 1 (28:15):
I sent you the rules.
Speaker 5 (28:16):
If it was procedure, the play is dead at his point.
Speaker 1 (28:21):
It wasn't an illegal lineup. So I'm not sure.
Speaker 5 (28:24):
Someone's gonna have to explain it to me, because the
announcers did a very poor job of explaining why that
play got to go through. Did you see the center
for the Raiders? He was wild, he was ballistic, Yeah,
beside himself? Yeah and nod. Why was he ballistic? He's
the one that stopped it. He was mad because the
play shouldn't have counted. Someone's gonna have to explain that
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to me.
Speaker 1 (28:45):
We're gonna have to get like a reper. Well, here's
the thing.
Speaker 2 (28:47):
We had spags running down calling a time out on
national TV on a prime time game, and we know
the rule is only the coach can do that, and
that's the penalty.
Speaker 1 (28:56):
And he and he.
Speaker 2 (28:57):
Ran all the way down to like the fifteen yard line.
He's way out of the coaches area, the coach's territory,
the sideline box.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
So you know it's listen.
Speaker 2 (29:06):
When it comes to the Kansas City Chiefs, I think
it's low hanging fruit for all of their cheating for
him where they're there. I don't think that's it though.
Speaker 5 (29:14):
I think it was a bad mistake by the officials
in the NFL.
Speaker 1 (29:18):
Will have to apology.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
But they keep having bad mistakes by officials that the
nfls have to keep apologizing for.
Speaker 1 (29:25):
That's the point I'm making.
Speaker 2 (29:27):
You can't keep having this stuff happen for a certain team.
Last night, when we're watching the game, we're doing the
show You and I Live on the air, and I'm
talking to Patrick about two Patrick jumping here just real
fast because this was pointed out today that hit that
Rashan Gary put on tour last night, where I said, wow,
that's all year long, the past four years that's been
rough in the passer. He takes a step in then
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lunges and hits too with a forearm caught into the
upper back, you know, snapping his neck.
Speaker 1 (29:55):
And even even I go home.
Speaker 2 (29:57):
I rewatched the game last night, and I couldn't hear
it in the studio t Rico and and and uh
and and.
Speaker 1 (30:03):
This color guy like yeah, normally it does.
Speaker 2 (30:05):
And but then Mike Pererero I think it was, comes
in and explains it and smooths it over, and it's
it's just funny how it's not across the boarding. You
and I were on the speaker going back and forth
about that play last night, right, Patrick, Yeah, that's true.
On Twitter, bro, Twitter is blowing up, like wow, it's
just funny how they of course everybody uses Pat Mahomes, right,
they say, yeah, that's Pat Mahomes.
Speaker 1 (30:26):
You're kicked out of the game.
Speaker 8 (30:27):
I actually have an example of like as like a
like a so we saw you and I and Andy
saw this too, where Rashauan Gary got too and all
of no call. But there was also a earlier that
Thanksgiving yesterday, in a previous game it was actually Lions
and Bears, Jared Goff got hit with something that I
at least me personally thought was less egregious than that.
Speaker 1 (30:47):
Sean Gary like totally took like that's what he took
a step into the absolutely right.
Speaker 8 (30:52):
Yes, Now, Jared Goff took a way less egregious hit.
Speaker 1 (30:55):
And what all the rest do they called?
Speaker 8 (30:57):
They called it on the very it was a backbreaking
personal rough than the passer on Jared Goff. Now you know,
they're protecting the quarterbacks. And also but like he got
one that was way, in my mind, way less. And
then two it just gets freaking like, you know, just
dumped there on the ground, nothing, no car, what's going on?
Speaker 1 (31:14):
I remember that?
Speaker 2 (31:15):
Yeah, not only that, you know he was kicked in
his helmet and all this thing. It's almost like guys
are trying to hit him in the head. And I
don't want to say that, but I'm only watching the
tape and I'm a football player.
Speaker 8 (31:24):
And he hit him on the head on the way out,
and I mean, I don't think that was intentional, but
you sign that shot.
Speaker 5 (31:28):
Yeah, it wasn't intentional. But they're not gonna be you know,
they're not gonna be. Oh, let's watch out for tour.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
He's the oh no, no, no, okay, So I know and
I'm not saying that. I'm not saying they should, but
I don't buy it's not intentional. I don't buy that
at all. You talk to any former okay, well they
talk to some former NFL defensive.
Speaker 1 (31:44):
Players that tell you, yeah, if.
Speaker 2 (31:46):
We know that guy's gotta hurt calf, Yeah, maybe you
squeeze on the leg a little tighter when you tackle
a lot that.
Speaker 1 (31:52):
Yeah, right, so they're doing it on purpose.
Speaker 5 (31:54):
Then I don't think you could go ahead and step
on some guys you know, helmet and get away with
it nowadays, just fus you with so many away with
it last night and well especially with so many officials
because it was it wasn't intentional.
Speaker 2 (32:06):
Let me ask you, this then has to have been
treated equally like all everybody else with concussions, yes or no?
Speaker 1 (32:11):
What do you mean? Treated treated equally?
Speaker 2 (32:13):
Till gets a concussions, he's got to sit out for
four to five weeks.
Speaker 1 (32:15):
Every time Mitch Trubisky had.
Speaker 2 (32:17):
Back to back concussions last year, back to back concussions,
it was back.
Speaker 1 (32:22):
I don't know the protocol. I don't think there's a
protocol on that.
Speaker 5 (32:25):
The the NFL didn't have to keep him out for
four games, did they, Because if that's the rule, then
why you can't say, well, why are they letting some
guys back early and some not?
Speaker 1 (32:34):
It doesn't work that way. I go back. I have
the answer to that.
Speaker 2 (32:37):
I go back to the Buffalo game. And this is
just listen, I have a little conspiracy theory in me. Fine, okay, whatever,
but that when he filed the Buffalo game two years ago,
it wasn't his back.
Speaker 1 (32:47):
Okay, we know it wasn't. It wasn't his back. It
was a concussion.
Speaker 2 (32:51):
The guy pushed him, should have been should have been
roughing the passer on that play too. He smacked his
head on the ground. They said it was his back.
They covered it up. The NFL, of you, let's be
honest about it. We got to break here for so
we can pick this back up when.
Speaker 1 (33:01):
We come back.
Speaker 2 (33:02):
I don't have a problem with expanding this and then
moving some many the other topics round. But remember the
Dolphins kind of made the NFL kind of have a
egg on their face about about the whole concussion protocol
in the way it's supposed to go, and it didn't
go the way they wanted to.
Speaker 1 (33:15):
And that was the talk for two weeks on already
on All TV was.
Speaker 2 (33:18):
About the protocol and the NFL is the type of
league that does not like when you, I don't want
to use the word embarrassed, but when you kind of
put a little egg on their face.
Speaker 1 (33:28):
Look, we got a break, we'll come back. We'll touch this.
Whatever you got, Arnie, hold on to a brother. You
have my word. We will get right back to j Patrick.
I know you want in on this also.
Speaker 2 (33:36):
I want to keep this conversation going because I think
it's a good conversation to be had, especially about a
high profile player like to a VJ.
Speaker 1 (33:43):
Vernon Husky already spend it.
Speaker 2 (33:44):
In four Jason Smith and his best friend Mike Harmon
will be back Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 1 (33:49):
VJ.
Speaker 2 (33:49):
Vernon Husky and a big Vanilla funny, the big Vanilla boppy,
My man, Arnie spaying a staking jaius in right now
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Fox Sports Radio comes to you low from the Tiret
dot Com studio. So let's jump right back into that.
First of all, I messed around and got a triple double.
That's my favorite line in this whole song.
Speaker 3 (34:10):
Man.
Speaker 1 (34:11):
Anyway, Arnie, do you know who this is. No, I
probably do, but once you tell me, but no, no, no, no,
go ahead, I take a guess. I don't know. I
have no idea his ice cube. Okay, okay, I thought
you might know.
Speaker 2 (34:21):
This is kind of an easy Okay, So let's get
right back to this. About this, this the the hitting
of you know, cornbra what's done on purpose? Patrick, you
add something you want to jump in and jump this
in Arnie, you have something you want to add to
Patrick go first?
Speaker 1 (34:36):
Oh yeah, no.
Speaker 8 (34:37):
So with the like the like the twist thing, like
at least like with the concussions thing, like I don't
know if it's like any conspiracy, but like why like
if we're putting the example of like why he had
like you know, two like concussion stuff and then compared
to Mitch Trubisky. One was like, yeah, Trubisky does have
his concussions and stuff, but at least with Tua he's
had in recent memory some yet like maybe same number,
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but it's different in sense of like we've seen this
man like go down and it's scary. Each like at
least the last two to three of those concussions the
last two or three years or wherever it was, have
looked so bad, so scary, so severe looking, and like
with the signs, like you know, the fencing thing and and.
Speaker 1 (35:18):
All that stuff, it's like the scariest and there was
CT on the rise.
Speaker 8 (35:24):
Like I think why he's had longer, he's just more
of a precaution and all that stuff like and and
I kind of get it. It's just it's looked way
worse than other people that have had maybe five or
six and all of stuff. And I'm not saying that's
right or wrong, but he in particular, because he's on
that wide view.
Speaker 2 (35:40):
I think that there should well, before I say my part, already,
go ahead and ad what you want that in before.
Speaker 5 (35:44):
But just you know, it's funny about that you said
it is the optics, because we've seen what happens the
two and we've seen him, you know, you know, on
camera and the way it reacts. But how come nobody's
saying anything about Warner playing out a fractured ankle. How
come nobody says, you know, you really shouldn't be doing
that because in about ten years you may not be
able to walk again, or it's gonna ruin your life,
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or it's gonna cut your life short we say it
with the concussion, and we're worried about Tua, but yet
nobody say anything about water playing with a fractured ankle.
Speaker 1 (36:16):
That's a good point. Ye, that's a great point.
Speaker 5 (36:18):
It's pretty secreous stuff. I don't know why that gets
to be overlooked. There was a guy on the bills
of that Nike Concussions I don't remember his name.
Speaker 2 (36:27):
We we didn't reason why Troy is the reason why
Troy Aikman had to retire, right, But we.
Speaker 5 (36:31):
Didn't say, hey, come, how's this guy able to play
with NI concussions?
Speaker 2 (36:35):
So heines Ward once said, and this is recent I
saw on the interview on the podcast he did Arnie.
Heines Ward said he would act. He would start limping
and acting like he hurt his leg so that they
wouldn't pay attention to whether he was woozy or not. Yeah, guys,
guys used to guys used to hide it. Man, there
there were I think it was Ocho Siko who said
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that he would he would go to like the hard
hits safety.
Speaker 1 (36:59):
Let me ask you.
Speaker 5 (36:59):
This, out of all the injuries you've heard, like so
and so got hurt in practice, knock Wood hurt his
knee hurt his ankle. Have you ever heard somebody said
he got a concussion in practice?
Speaker 1 (37:09):
Never?
Speaker 5 (37:10):
And then how many times? And how many times do
you think it out that? Oh God, if somebody gets
a concussion. I got a concussion in middle school. I
was playing for Bevil Middle School. I hit Kofee Baywall
from Godwin Middle School. I was playing for Bevil. All
my memories impeccable. It's the last game of the year.
It was on Halloween. We're playing Godwin for the league championship.
Kofe Baywah, who ended up playing high school football with
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at Garfols Senior High School in del City, Virginia. I
laid a hit on this kid, but we both got
up Moozie and my stepdad, Glenn Thomas, was the one
that told me.
Speaker 2 (37:39):
He's like, yeah, you probably got a concussion. I was
like what, And I'll be honest with you. I wore
like a badge of honor. I bragged about it in
school the next day. I told all the girls about it, like, yeah,
you know, good games, He's I was like, yeah, you know,
you know, I got a concussion yesterday. How was in
school bragging about it? I was thirteen fourteen years old.
So what happens all the time, all the time time.
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My point is this the three to these gut where
he's you know, the three concussions. That two was gotten
in the last two to three years and then and
played for the Miami Dolphins.
Speaker 1 (38:07):
Didn't have any last year, so he had two. The
year prior to that, he missed four games. Motes.
Speaker 2 (38:11):
I remember Christmas Day, he gets tackled, he falls his head,
bumps on the ground against the Packers. He misses the
rest of the year, including the playoff game at Buffalo.
So when he gets the concussion, of course from the Kansas.
From the Cincinnati game, he missed another four games. He
gets the concussion this year against I think it was
the Buffalo game, he misses four games. I just want
to know, why does Tua have to miss four games
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when he gets a concussion. Mitchell Chrubisky got two concussions
last year.
Speaker 1 (38:37):
He didn't see any time.
Speaker 2 (38:38):
So I'm just if there's gonna be a universal rule,
then it needs to be laid out quick sidebar Arnie
Lakers just lost tonight one O three to ninety three.
JJ Reddick looks super pizsit of the press conference weren't
they supposed to fix everything because Darvin Ham was the issue.
They have the exact same record that Darvin Ham had
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at this point last year.
Speaker 1 (39:00):
Well, they were off to a better sport.
Speaker 5 (39:02):
They had ten and five at one point that they
want to That's not what they are right now though. No, No,
I know what they are right now. I know they're
still gonna look. They still needed another player. Whether they
get that another player, it's gonna be interesting to see
because I'm waiting to see if they're gonna end up
trading Jannis or something.
Speaker 6 (39:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (39:18):
Man, Lebron's the only guy that needs somebody all the
damn time.
Speaker 1 (39:22):
Yes, well, so what they'll get him too?
Speaker 2 (39:25):
No, they won't know, they won't, they won't. I know
they've been put out in the air. The Lakers are
shopping for a big man. Who who?
Speaker 1 (39:33):
Who? What big man are you getting? Nobody's helping you
out no more. I like what Zach Levine. I know
that they want to shop him around here. Yeah, and
you know what.
Speaker 2 (39:41):
Lebron's gonna do it to him. He's gonna turn him
into a stand on a three point line, three point shooter,
That's what he's gonna turn into. Because who dominates the
ball Lebron does.
Speaker 1 (39:50):
So what's what's that? What's Zach Levine gonna do?
Speaker 3 (39:53):
No?
Speaker 2 (39:54):
Yeah, all right, well well we'll see man. I listen,
it doesn't matter. I had him at forty three wins.
That's about what they're all pay for right now.
Speaker 1 (40:01):
But what we're on pace for?
Speaker 2 (40:02):
Great, great three hours, Arnie, one hour left, Buddy, let's go.
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Speaker 2 (00:46):
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A and M in nineteen ninety, drafted to take care
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He is truly a friend to me. He is truly
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for the twenty five NFL Pro Football Hall of Fame,
(01:26):
mister Richmond Webb.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
What's going on, big buddy?
Speaker 3 (01:30):
Hey VJ?
Speaker 4 (01:31):
What's up?
Speaker 3 (01:31):
Brother Arnie? How y'all doing?
Speaker 1 (01:33):
Hey, rich Rittans, thanks for joining us. I love it.
I told you, Arnie, I had a surprise for you, baby,
I love it. I love it absolutely.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
I knew you had a surprise. Richmond. How's the family,
Let's start there. How's your lovely family, lovely wife?
Speaker 1 (01:45):
Man? How was the Thanksgiving?
Speaker 3 (01:48):
Man? Thanksgiving was good? Family is good? All that? How's
your son? You know that's my main man?
Speaker 1 (01:53):
I know that's your dog.
Speaker 4 (01:56):
And before I forget man, we hadn't chopped it up
in a wild big congratulations on Michigan winning the national championship.
We ain't chopped it up in a while, but I
know you're a huge Michigan fan.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
Yeah, thank you. I appreciate you.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
Brother.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
I drunk two bottles of the kieling O Bottle champagne
that night. You would have thought I was part of
the damn team. And I feel like Richmond, you know me,
You know how crazy my mind is. I feel like
I'm part of some of my favorite teams. Like I
feel like I'm part of the Dolphins. I don't know
how you are. See, thank you.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
Don't hear that out there America.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
There's a former Miami Dolphin telling me that I'm part
of the Miami Dolphins.
Speaker 4 (02:32):
Man.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
Now you went to a high school football game tonight
out there in Texas. That's big time out there. Who'd
you go see how the game play out?
Speaker 4 (02:39):
I went to go see Columbus High School versus Yoakama's
two small countrytown teams. Okay, the game was it fifty
six to forty two? It was like, yeah, it was crazy.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
Okay, So I guess nobody knew there was playing defense then,
I no problem, not at all.
Speaker 4 (03:00):
I got home in time to see the overtime with
Georgia and Georgia Tech.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
That game just ended.
Speaker 4 (03:07):
Georgia one from forty to forty. Wow, that's crazy. And
Georgia Tech let him slip away.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
They did had this game. They had this game.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
Man.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
So so let's start with last night.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
Man.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
You and I we talk a lot, We talk a
lot of Dolphin football. Of course, last night they going
to Labo and uh and uh, you know, and drop one.
It was one of my question mark games last week
leading into this season as far as I mean leading
into this stretch of the season, is this game and
then there is a road game at the Texans. I
think they'll take out the bum ash just both times.
I think they could beat the Browns and they could
beat the Niners. But just for what you saw last night,
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where do you see this Dolphin team moving towards the
end of this last stretch?
Speaker 1 (03:45):
And do you think we can make a playoff run
of getting the playoffs?
Speaker 4 (03:48):
I think the playoffs is gonna be really tough.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
If we could have.
Speaker 4 (03:51):
Won this game, I would have felt much better. But
we have no room for margin the era, and I
believe that we might need a little help just to
get in there.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
Bet.
Speaker 4 (04:04):
Speaking of last night, I just think it took them.
We dug too deep of a hole too quick, and
you can't do that on the road and against a
green Bay team that's you know, that's a really good team.
I was looking at it last night, and you know,
you got Detroit, Minnesota and green Bay and green Bay
sitting at third with three losses. Minnesota's got two and
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Detroit Liones got one. So that's probably one of the
tougher divisions in the NFL right now. So I know
they were gonna be a formidial opponent, and I know
that they had a really good team. Jordan love good
quarterback stuff like that, and going to Lambo is always
tough playing there.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
So I know we're gonna be an easy seat.
Speaker 4 (04:46):
But when I saw mustaplunt and they recovered it early
in the game, I was like, we can't keep making
mistakes like this because it's hard to dig out of
a hole like that.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
Oh absolutely, Richard.
Speaker 5 (04:57):
Which is easier to block for obviously your block for
Dan Marino, but he was a statue back there.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
What about a running quarterback?
Speaker 5 (05:04):
How tough is it for somebody to go ahead and
block for somebody like that?
Speaker 3 (05:08):
I think it.
Speaker 4 (05:09):
You know, it's two different styles, but long thiss is effective.
You know, if you got a you know, a Lamar
Jackson or or somebody like that. You just try to
stick with your man on your assignment. You're not gonna
know where he is all the time. But he had
such big playability, not only with throwing the football, but
making plays with his legs and you know, running the
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football a lot of times that can really frustrate defenses
and keep change moving. But like you said, Dan was
a statue, but you couldn't get to him, and if
he tried to blitz him, he would make you pay.
And if he sat back and gave him too much time,
he was gonna make you pay.
Speaker 3 (05:45):
So you just had to pick your poison.
Speaker 4 (05:47):
So it just depends on the type of quarterback you're
blocking for and you just do your best. If you
trying to look and see what's going on behind you,
you sure enough gonna be in trouble.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
Well, the reason why a lot of people couldn't get
to h was too gentlemen by the name of Richmond
Webb and Keith Simms. That's for damn sure, there's the
reason why nobody could get to them. But something else
that's coming out of game last night.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
I didn't like it. You have Brooks calling them soft,
and I'm never one.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
If you want to say, listen, we gotta get tougher
as a team, we gotta, you know, we gotta you know,
buckle down, anchor down, hatch it down, however you want
to describe it. But when the guy's like, oh yeah,
we're soft, we played soft, I think the elements came
into it. Well, brother, you're on the defense that missed
twenty two tackles, so you're part of that. When you
hear something like that, are you a fan of that?
And do you think that the Dolphins, this Dolphin's current
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team is soft and needs to get tougher.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
No.
Speaker 4 (06:40):
I don't like when players do that because that's a
you're saying everybody, including everybody, and that's all inclusive, and
that's never the case. When you have a great game.
You can have a great game, great win, and everybody's
not gonna play well, and vice versa. You can have
a really bad game, but some guys play well. Even know, overall,
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as a team we didn't play well, but individually you do.
And a lot of time, all that does is separate
the locker room. And I know he's frustrated, but it's
the other guy's frustrated as well.
Speaker 3 (07:13):
But this doesn't help.
Speaker 4 (07:14):
The calls by, you know, calling out everybody saying we're softed.
If you felt that way, I feel like you've been
feeling that way, not just from last night, You're feeling
that way for a while. And you know it's different
factors you got to look at. But you got to
be real careful when you just finished the game and
you hadn't had an opportunity to look at the film yourself,
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because the first thing I want to do is look
at the film and say, Okay, a lot of times
you think you don't play that well, but actually even
play as bad as you thought. And then something you
think you really play well, you feel like, man, it's
a few other things that I could have done well.
Speaker 3 (07:52):
But you going by what.
Speaker 4 (07:54):
You kind of remember in your head that you're trying
to go through seventy plays, you can't do that until you.
Speaker 3 (07:59):
Watch the film.
Speaker 4 (08:00):
And that's why I just think he kind of jumped
the gun a little bit. And if you're gonna address that,
address your play in yourself and then or like you say,
you know we as a team, but when you say no,
we just soft and this and that, I'm like Nona
that I don't like that at all.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
I didn't rich fordle me asking this. You know, you're
in Miami for ten years.
Speaker 5 (08:20):
After practice, after one game, you go down to the beach,
you have a my tie. It's December, it's seventy two degrees.
The following week you gotta go to Green Bay and
all you guys are complaining you're freezing. You're like, where
can I How tough is it to play in that
type of weather?
Speaker 3 (08:40):
It is? I think that.
Speaker 4 (08:41):
I think the thing you gotta you gotta, you gotta
make up in your head is you already know it's
gonna be cold, but you got to really focus in
on your assignments and try to keep the change moving
if you can kind of get the game going and
get the offense moveing and stuff like that. You don't
sit there and just focus on it's cold, because when
you get to the sideline, you either put the jacket on.
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You got heated benches, you know, you just stick your
feet in there and warm them up if if it's cold,
but you actually moved around when you're out on the field.
Speaker 3 (09:12):
That if you can.
Speaker 4 (09:14):
If all you're thinking about is is cold, you're done
before the game is over. I'm not saying guys done
that bit, just so it's just a mentality you got
to kind of develop and say.
Speaker 3 (09:25):
Hell, it's cold. I already knew it's cold.
Speaker 4 (09:27):
I got to go out here and play anyway, So
don't try to put too much on it. I just
had to sometime I would go out for pregame and
you know, you warm up, but if you put too
much stuff on, I didn't feel right, like I felt
heavy even though I wasn't. Or you said, okay, I
need to take some of this stuff off. So you
just try to balance it out. But most of the
time you're gonna make it through and it's not that bad.
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But it's just a mindset and you just every guy's
got to do it individuals, but some guys they just can't.
Speaker 3 (09:56):
You know what I'm saying. Some guys deal with it
better than better than others.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
I can tell you, Yes, uh, Richmond, you you were definitely,
you know, a tough guy.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
You weren't soft at all.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
Stat I love here and I brought this up to
you when we used to do my old show. Eight
of your thirteen years, you were a sixteen sixteen guy,
and at one point you did it seven straight years,
and then there were three years you were fourteen. You
missed a couple of games. If you started fourteen, guys
like you had. I always say the best ability in
sports is availability. When you see certain guys kind of
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heard missing gains, things of that nature, just talk to
a guy like yourself who is a finalist. Finally, and
it's and it's long overdue for you to get elected
to the Hall of Fame Pro Football Hall of Fame
and twenty five. But looking at the league today as
opposed to the league that you played in. I'm not
going to ask you whether you like it or not,
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because I know it's a fraternity of brothers. But just
the differenceness of toughness do you see that there is?
That's something that's overblown from blowhards on radio on TV
like us.
Speaker 4 (11:00):
No, it's a different game now, and I think you
kind of see it, uh trickle down even throughout outtake basketball.
I ain't gonna say all sports, but I know I've
seen the difference in the shift in basketball. It's not
as physical as it was in the nineties, when you know,
you actually had five guys out there, but the positions
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were more defined I mean, you got guys that were
seven foots that can bring the ball up and shoot
the three. You know, before you used to have a post,
power forward, small forward, shooting garden point guard. Now it's
almost like everybody can just interchangeable, and that wasn't the
case back then. And you know, you bring up a
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good point, but I think with the NFL and stuff
like that, now it's such a push on safety, the
concussion and all that, so they really took a lot
of the hitting out of it. I think during the
season only have leven padded practices maybe leven and and
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they don't even do tour a days. I was about
to say to a days, but you know one of
their practices. So it's changed tremendously.
Speaker 3 (12:11):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (12:12):
And even as a physicality, it used to be if
a receiver was running a route across the mills, whether
he caught the ball or not, he was gonna get hit.
It was a way of intimidating or sometime change the
whole minimum momnimum of a game. If you know, you
can't cross the mill and they laid the guy out
and they had to take him out a lot of time,
that would affect the whole attitude of the team you
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were playing against, and so it was an intimidation thing
that we had to play with and deal with. And
and like you said, even if you were hurting Nick,
you kind of found a way to to, you know,
buckle up and just say, hey, I gotta gut.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
It out and do this and that.
Speaker 4 (12:51):
But now it's it's been change. So I don't necessary
fault all the guys because they're just playing then the
parameters of what the league is allowing or not allowing
them to do. So I will say it is a
change is different than when I played.
Speaker 5 (13:10):
Yeah, Richard, I gotta ask you, did I see you
in a highlight a couple of days ago, the thirty
year anniversary of the damn Marino fake spike?
Speaker 1 (13:18):
Where were you on the offensive light? What did Dan say?
Did you say, I'm gonna fake it, I'm not gonna
Did you know what he was doing for crying out loud?
Speaker 3 (13:27):
You know, bro, I will tell you.
Speaker 4 (13:29):
You know, it's funny story behind that because you see
the play and they say, yeah, even the line didn't
block anybody. So normally in the clock play, you know,
he gets the ball and just spikes it in the ground.
But he faked it, and so when we threw a touchdown,
that's why if you watch it, you see the lion react,
offensive line react like you know, we're not blocking them
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r And then all of a sudden, we're kind of
like reacting because now the D line is trying to
you know, rush again. I'm like, what you doing? So
it's just not a reaction. So after the game, I
went up to I was like, man, why y'all didn't
tell us that's what y'all doing? And and they said, oh,
if we would have told y'all, y'all would have screwed
it up.
Speaker 3 (14:13):
I was happy we got to touch down. Hold up, man,
you can't. You can't be handling my boy. You got
to feel a little bit more love than that.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
So you didn't know, no idea what's coming?
Speaker 3 (14:24):
Huh? Yeah, you know we got an image de hole.
You know, big man.
Speaker 4 (14:29):
You know we don't want to look crazy out there
on the field either. It's like I was, man, I said, okay,
you you got, you got, we got to touch down.
Speaker 3 (14:36):
We got to win.
Speaker 4 (14:37):
I ain't gonna switch too hard on that, but yeah,
I wasn't happy about that.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
A couple of quick ones Richmond for you lad to
get out of here. You know, I was always like
the actual fun question, the most the guy you were
most hyped up to play.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
What d ND just did it for you?
Speaker 3 (14:51):
Man?
Speaker 1 (14:51):
You knew when you was facing that guy, you better.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
Eat your weedies, you better do your push ups, you
better drink your prote shirt, you better be locked in
for that game.
Speaker 1 (14:58):
Who was it for you? Man?
Speaker 4 (15:00):
That's an easy one. That's an easy one, bro. That's
that's Bruce Smith. Bruce Smith, Bruce Smith. And you know
everybody always talks about the two hundred sacks, and you
know he was a great pass rushing, but he played
the run, you know, trying to cut him off, trying
to reach block him. It was like, no matter what
the play was, you was gonna have hell and wasn't
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no one you could take off, and uh, you just
know it's gonna be sixty minutes of hell. But that's
the toughest guy that I had to play against. And
sometime we faced him two for sure, and sometimes three
in the playoffs. So yeah, that's that's an easy one.
I don't even have to think about that one right.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
There, Richard.
Speaker 5 (15:40):
I wanted to beause I know you were a top
ten pick. A lot of people don't know that. How
long did it take you to get up to speed
and really feel confident in the NFL? How long should
we be giving these quarterbacks like Cago Williams.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
What would you be telling Kable.
Speaker 5 (15:52):
Williams right now if you could sit down and talk
with him, the quarterback for the Bears.
Speaker 4 (15:57):
Yeah, I'll address poort A first and then I go
to Park B. When I came in I think the
thing that truly helped me was I got in camp early.
I had a great offensive line coach because me and
Keith came from like option style programs Texas A and
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M and our state in topic, so we had to
go from one extreme to the other one to throwing
the ball, you know, eighty eighty five percent of the time.
So he worked with us in the two point stands,
getting us ready. So we played all of preseason, we
got all those reps, plus we got reps two a
days in training camp, so it was like we was
on a crash course. But I think playing all those games,
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those preseason games and getting all the reps, and the
good thing was the two guys that were starting, they
were they were holding out for contract to go. You know,
they were trying to get their contract redone and so
we got all those reps and I think that really
helped speed up the process to where we were able
to make the adjustment quick.
Speaker 3 (17:00):
I think the.
Speaker 4 (17:00):
Thing that I don't like now is even with these quarterbacks,
I think some of them, they play them too early,
They don't give them sometimes. I think some guys need
to sit that it just depends on the organization, what
the need is this and that that. If you're a
top five pick, they'll just throw you out there, and
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then when it doesn't work out, they don't try to
develop the player all the time. They just cut them
and say we'll just grab another quarterback. So I don't
like that aspect of it because I think sometimes you
got to figure out what a guy does well, put
him in the best positions, and maximize what he really
does well, rather than just throwing him in an offensive
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system and saying this is what we run and you know,
you adjust to it, this and that. So I think
a lot of times there's not enough time to really
work on developing and getting them to become a really
good quarterback. So it just depends on the situation. It's
not everyone bit with With Caleb Williams, I definitely tell
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him to look, bro, you already knew the situation.
Speaker 3 (18:07):
She came in.
Speaker 4 (18:08):
It's a reason Chicago had the number one pick. So
you know, it's some things that's got to get fixed.
It's not gonna get fixed overnight. But continue to work,
you know, get with one of these quarterback trainers or something,
you know, in the off season, and continue to hone
your crafts and you know, hey, you're probably gonna be
there for a while, so you got to poach the
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game like that. And I think if he does that,
I think he'll be Okay.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
We appreciate you, Richmond. We got to get out of
here and pay some bills. I love you, brother, God
blessed you and your family. Great stuff, great conversation, man,
Thank you so much for jumping in and doing this
for me.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
I love you, brother man.
Speaker 3 (18:45):
I love y'all too. Thank you so much.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
All right, that's Richmond Web for Miami Dolphin. He'll be
up for the Hall of Fame. We got to jump
out of here. We ran over a little bit right there.
Don't be mad at me, but I gave you all
some good stuff. Arnie will talk about the surprise I
just gave you right there. Vijay Vernon Husky, Arnie Spanning.
Speaker 6 (18:58):
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Speaker 2 (19:11):
Oh yeah, Mary, No, you didn't know, you didn't. Fox
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every time we do a show together, Arnie, and you
can do it with me when you play when they
play your.
Speaker 1 (19:28):
Song, I'm not gonna lie. Ironically, Arnie is actually the
one who picked this song, Arnie. Do you know? Okay, Arnie,
do you know who he's right?
Speaker 6 (19:34):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (19:35):
My name, But this was popular when I was young. This, Yeah,
I have some trigger for you guys. Do you guys
know there's a very famous rapper who was actually in
the Digital Underground.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
Absolutely, come on now, Tupac was a dancer for Digital Underground.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
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with me and marry you guys.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
Ever seen any I know you know what was the
name of the movie with Demmy Moore, Dan Ackroyd, Digital
Underground had a cameo in that movie. And Tupac is
in that dance. He's dancing with the band. It was
It's not Nothing to Lose. That was Martin Lawrence and
the guy that played Merlin and Tom Gunn. Yeah, but
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this is it's Dan Ackroyd and Demmy Moore. God, it's
the old movie. It's gonna It's gonna bother me anyway,
coming to you off on the tie right dot com studio. Uh,
nothing but Arnie, there you go, Nothing but trouble. That's
the movie right there. Digital Underground was in that movie
right there before we get to the great uh Steve
the second the best update man in the business.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
Arnie, did you like your surprise? I did. I love
talkt to Richmond. That was a lot of fun.
Speaker 5 (20:39):
So you may even have some breaking news because I,
for you know, just a couple of days ago they
played that thirtieth anniversary.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
I saw the videos of the Dan Marino with.
Speaker 5 (20:48):
The fake spike, and that's what made me think, I go,
wasn't Richmond on that line?
Speaker 1 (20:52):
Yes, I didn't know if he was heard. I never
knew if he had done that.
Speaker 5 (20:56):
In his own mind, or if he had told his
offensive line and if they were surprised.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
So now we know the.
Speaker 5 (21:02):
Answer, well, and I I always thought they were surprised though.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
You know he told I asked him that about five
years ago. Okay, So that's why I didn't jump in.
That's why when you asked, I said, oh, cool that way,
because if I'd have asked it again, it would have
sound it would have looked too fake to him, He's like,
hold on in this brain. Of course, by VJ, you've
asked me this before, so I'm glad you asked it.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
So it was really cool that you that you asked
that question.
Speaker 5 (21:25):
You can tell he likes talking about him about of course,
if there was something I'm sure do UL talk about
every year that they show a highlight of that.
Speaker 1 (21:33):
I mean, that's probably one of his highlights of his career.
Speaker 2 (21:36):
And listen for it's so Marino for the answer to be,
why ain't you tell us?
Speaker 1 (21:41):
Man?
Speaker 2 (21:41):
If I'd have told you, all, you guys would have
screwed well, say screw he's you guys would have bleaped
it up. And when I asked, I said, he said
that he said, it would have straight faced VJ. So
Dan wasn't joking to him. It was like, man, if
I told you guys, you guys would have you know,
bleeped it.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
That was between him and Mark Ingram.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
Nobody else, the coaching staff, Shula, nobody else knew what
was going on.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
I tell you who does know what's going on.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
And that is the best update man in all of
foot The Sports Talk Rady on my opinion, mister Steve
the Sega, you're up, buddy, Hello Jens.
Speaker 7 (22:14):
And everything's final now in the NBA, because it's just
gone final in LA with the Thunder beating the Lakers
one oh one, ninety three Shay Gilgis Alexander thirty six
points wins for Portland and Miami.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
Detroit as well.
Speaker 7 (22:27):
Boston won its seventh straight game, Memphis won its fifth
in a row, Orlando won its fifth straight game, and
Minnesota had lost four in a row, but edge the
Clippers ninety three ninety two wins for New York and Atlanta.
In college hoops, West Virginia in overtime beating number twenty
four Arizona and thirteenth rank Perdue won a tournament championship
in San Diego, eighty to seventy eight over twenty third
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ranked Old Miss. And then there's the college football game tonight,
which ended at seventh ranked Georgia after midnight Eastern time.
In eight overtimes, the Bulldogs came back to beat rival
Georgia Tech forty four forty two. Georgia was down seventeen
nothing at the half. Bulldogs have now won thirty one
straight at home this season. They're ten and two overall.
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Iowa was down ten nothing at home to Nebraska tonight
in the third quarter, but the Hawkeys won at thirteen
to ten on a fifty three yard field goal on
the final play, set up by a late sack and fumble.
Number eleven Boise State beat Oregon State thirty four eighteen,
fourteenth ranked Old Miss over Mississippi State twenty six, fourteen
and number twenty five rank Colorado shut out Oklahoma State
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fifty two to nothing. The Chicago Bears fired head coach
Matt Eberflus. In the NFL at Kansas City today, the
Chiefs handed the Raiders in eight straight loss nineteen seventeen.
Las Vegas in such a close game, missed field goal
attempts from fifty six, fifty five and fifty eight yards
Raiders had nine penalties one hundred one yards. Chiefs offense
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on red zone tds just one of five, but they
did have the one, and matthew Wright was four of
five on his field goal attempts, only one make beyond
thirty five yards, and the Chiefs clinched a playoff spot
for the tenth straight year. In the NHL, Washington and
overtime defeated the Islanders five to four San Jose eight
to five over Seattle. Late game at Vegas went to
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the home team four to three over Winnipeg, whose record
now is eighteen and six, and the Dodgers resigned Tommy
Edmund to a five year extension. He was NLCS MVP.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
Back to you appreciate ate, Steve, Thank you so much.
Speaker 3 (24:32):
Man.
Speaker 2 (24:32):
What a crazy, crazy game that was, Arnie, for that
thing to end like that.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
Already, I want to jump.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
To some before we jump into some NFL games in
preview and things got mixed up because I didn't know
when I was gonna have Richmond.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
I found out what time and how I was going
to be.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
We had already done the run now, so we are
going to get into ladies and gentlemen, don't worry about it.
We're going to get into our top NFL games. We'll
talk about Phillya, Baltimore, Pittsburgh at Cincinnati, the Chargers at Atlanta,
which is bigger for all those teams.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
We'll get into all of that.
Speaker 2 (24:59):
But we had some move some things around and also
to we are coming to you lie from the TI
right dot com studio. Arnie span your VJ Forner Huskie
in for Jason Martin and Mike Harmon. But something I
want to read here, man, this is really interesting. The
tweets are off the chain. Yeah, Arnie, as you see it,
you just screenshot at me something. I want to thank
that God for the props. See, that's the stuff I like. Man,
When somebody recognized the skills and puts it out there,
(25:21):
I appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
Thank you very much. I'll read you in a minute.
Speaker 2 (25:23):
But if you have you seen this, Joe Judges, Burner Berner, Okay,
this is crazy, man, go ahead.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
Are you looking at it right now? I don't, okay,
but this is just cool. This is deep and I
just want to see what you think about it said.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
The Chiefs are absolute frauds, garbage trash bag team aight
and O'Connell carved up that eighty five Bears defense.
Speaker 1 (25:42):
We keep hearing about needing.
Speaker 2 (25:44):
A kicker to miss three field goals to win it
home as fourteen point fades one and done in the playoffs,
I promise you whoa wow.
Speaker 5 (25:56):
Yeah you know, Army Joe, what you got on that, Arnie.
I don't know one of the the playoffs. But he's
he's right about everything he said. I'm not gonna call
them trash, but three miss field goals a bad Raiders team.
Speaker 3 (26:07):
Though.
Speaker 5 (26:07):
The Raiders, as you mentioned yesterday when we were filling in,
beat Kansas City two of the last four times in
Kansas City. It's a divisional game. I don't want to
make excuses. We know what's going on with the Chiefs there.
You know they they win, but they don't cover. They've
played a lot of one one score games out there.
Speaker 1 (26:27):
But he's right.
Speaker 5 (26:27):
I mean, you're talking about a bad Raider team. They
couldn't even run the ball against. If this was the
Buffalo Bills and the Chiefs played the same game, the
Bills would have won by two to three touchdowns. The
Lions would have won by two to three touchdowns. But
it wasn't them. They they did what they had to
do to beat them. But he's one hundred percent right you.
(26:48):
Sooner or later it will catch up to you, Uh,
Kansas City Chiefs, especially when you have to go on
the road, or especially when you play a much better team.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
Well, I had news, I had news where siate you
at stinking jeans at big Vanilla funny. He says the
Chiefs are the greatest clutch team of all time, winning
an NFL record fourteen consecutive one position games despite Andy
Reid punting at midfield on a gimme fourth and two conversion.
Al says Kansas City would convert most seventy percent of
(27:20):
the time.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
AI.
Speaker 2 (27:21):
I think that is ai AI okay, says they put
a period there for me a head news help me out, buddy, hey,
I says Kansas City will convert almost seventy of the time.
Speaker 5 (27:31):
But is it clutch when you're supposed to beat these
teams by a lot and you and you like, is
it clutch? If the you know, the Lakers are supposed
to beat the team by ten points and they win
by a point and they hit.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
A last second shot, I guess it's clutch. Yes, it is.
But you're supposed to beat them anyway.
Speaker 5 (27:47):
Yeah, it's But is it clutch for Kansas City when
when the Raiders missed three field goals? Is it clutch
for Kansas City when the Raiders snapped the ball and
you know, it hits the hits the guy and the
shoulder wasn't paying attention. And by the way, there has
to be an investigation at the ending of the game.
I'm not sure why that play was allowed to continue.
(28:10):
If it was an illegal shift, the play is dead
at the point it's supposed to be.
Speaker 1 (28:15):
I sent you the rules.
Speaker 5 (28:16):
If it was procedure, the play is dead at his point.
Speaker 1 (28:21):
It wasn't an illegal lineup. So I'm not sure.
Speaker 5 (28:24):
Someone's gonna have to explain it to me, because the
announcers did a very poor job of explaining why that
play got to go through. Did you see the center
for the Raiders? He was wild, he was ballistic, Yeah,
beside himself? Yeah and nod. Why was he ballistic? He's
the one that stopped it. He was mad because the
play shouldn't have counted. Someone's gonna have to explain that
(28:45):
to me.
Speaker 1 (28:45):
We're gonna have to get like a reper. Well, here's
the thing.
Speaker 2 (28:47):
We had spags running down calling a time out on
national TV on a prime time game, and we know
the rule is only the coach can do that, and
that's the penalty.
Speaker 1 (28:56):
And he and he.
Speaker 2 (28:57):
Ran all the way down to like the fifteen yard line.
He's way out of the coaches area, the coach's territory,
the sideline box.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
So you know it's listen.
Speaker 2 (29:06):
When it comes to the Kansas City Chiefs, I think
it's low hanging fruit for all of their cheating for
him where they're there. I don't think that's it though.
Speaker 5 (29:14):
I think it was a bad mistake by the officials
in the NFL.
Speaker 1 (29:18):
Will have to apology.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
But they keep having bad mistakes by officials that the
nfls have to keep apologizing for.
Speaker 1 (29:25):
That's the point I'm making.
Speaker 2 (29:27):
You can't keep having this stuff happen for a certain team.
Last night, when we're watching the game, we're doing the
show You and I Live on the air, and I'm
talking to Patrick about two Patrick jumping here just real
fast because this was pointed out today that hit that
Rashan Gary put on tour last night, where I said, wow,
that's all year long, the past four years that's been
rough in the passer. He takes a step in then
(29:50):
lunges and hits too with a forearm caught into the
upper back, you know, snapping his neck.
Speaker 1 (29:55):
And even even I go home.
Speaker 2 (29:57):
I rewatched the game last night, and I couldn't hear
it in the studio t Rico and and and uh
and and.
Speaker 1 (30:03):
This color guy like yeah, normally it does.
Speaker 2 (30:05):
And but then Mike Pererero I think it was, comes
in and explains it and smooths it over, and it's
it's just funny how it's not across the boarding. You
and I were on the speaker going back and forth
about that play last night, right, Patrick, Yeah, that's true.
On Twitter, bro, Twitter is blowing up, like wow, it's
just funny how they of course everybody uses Pat Mahomes, right,
they say, yeah, that's Pat Mahomes.
Speaker 1 (30:26):
You're kicked out of the game.
Speaker 8 (30:27):
I actually have an example of like as like a
like a so we saw you and I and Andy
saw this too, where Rashauan Gary got too and all
of no call. But there was also a earlier that
Thanksgiving yesterday, in a previous game it was actually Lions
and Bears, Jared Goff got hit with something that I
at least me personally thought was less egregious than that.
Speaker 1 (30:47):
Sean Gary like totally took like that's what he took
a step into the absolutely right.
Speaker 8 (30:52):
Yes, Now, Jared Goff took a way less egregious hit.
Speaker 1 (30:55):
And what all the rest do they called?
Speaker 8 (30:57):
They called it on the very it was a backbreaking
personal rough than the passer on Jared Goff. Now you know,
they're protecting the quarterbacks. And also but like he got
one that was way, in my mind, way less. And
then two it just gets freaking like, you know, just
dumped there on the ground, nothing, no car, what's going on?
Speaker 1 (31:14):
I remember that?
Speaker 2 (31:15):
Yeah, not only that, you know he was kicked in
his helmet and all this thing. It's almost like guys
are trying to hit him in the head. And I
don't want to say that, but I'm only watching the
tape and I'm a football player.
Speaker 8 (31:24):
And he hit him on the head on the way out,
and I mean, I don't think that was intentional, but
you sign that shot.
Speaker 5 (31:28):
Yeah, it wasn't intentional. But they're not gonna be you know,
they're not gonna be. Oh, let's watch out for tour.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
He's the oh no, no, no, okay, So I know and
I'm not saying that. I'm not saying they should, but
I don't buy it's not intentional. I don't buy that
at all. You talk to any former okay, well they
talk to some former NFL defensive.
Speaker 1 (31:44):
Players that tell you, yeah, if.
Speaker 2 (31:46):
We know that guy's gotta hurt calf, Yeah, maybe you
squeeze on the leg a little tighter when you tackle
a lot that.
Speaker 1 (31:52):
Yeah, right, so they're doing it on purpose.
Speaker 5 (31:54):
Then I don't think you could go ahead and step
on some guys you know, helmet and get away with
it nowadays, just fus you with so many away with
it last night and well especially with so many officials
because it was it wasn't intentional.
Speaker 2 (32:06):
Let me ask you, this then has to have been
treated equally like all everybody else with concussions, yes or no?
Speaker 1 (32:11):
What do you mean? Treated treated equally?
Speaker 2 (32:13):
Till gets a concussions, he's got to sit out for
four to five weeks.
Speaker 1 (32:15):
Every time Mitch Trubisky had.
Speaker 2 (32:17):
Back to back concussions last year, back to back concussions,
it was back.
Speaker 1 (32:22):
I don't know the protocol. I don't think there's a
protocol on that.
Speaker 5 (32:25):
The the NFL didn't have to keep him out for
four games, did they, Because if that's the rule, then
why you can't say, well, why are they letting some
guys back early and some not?
Speaker 1 (32:34):
It doesn't work that way. I go back. I have
the answer to that.
Speaker 2 (32:37):
I go back to the Buffalo game. And this is
just listen, I have a little conspiracy theory in me. Fine, okay, whatever,
but that when he filed the Buffalo game two years ago,
it wasn't his back.
Speaker 1 (32:47):
Okay, we know it wasn't. It wasn't his back. It
was a concussion.
Speaker 2 (32:51):
The guy pushed him, should have been should have been
roughing the passer on that play too. He smacked his
head on the ground. They said it was his back.
They covered it up. The NFL, of you, let's be
honest about it. We got to break here for so
we can pick this back up when.
Speaker 1 (33:01):
We come back.
Speaker 2 (33:02):
I don't have a problem with expanding this and then
moving some many the other topics round. But remember the
Dolphins kind of made the NFL kind of have a
egg on their face about about the whole concussion protocol
in the way it's supposed to go, and it didn't
go the way they wanted to.
Speaker 1 (33:15):
And that was the talk for two weeks on already
on All TV was.
Speaker 2 (33:18):
About the protocol and the NFL is the type of
league that does not like when you, I don't want
to use the word embarrassed, but when you kind of
put a little egg on their face.
Speaker 1 (33:28):
Look, we got a break, we'll come back. We'll touch this.
Whatever you got, Arnie, hold on to a brother. You
have my word. We will get right back to j Patrick.
I know you want in on this also.
Speaker 2 (33:36):
I want to keep this conversation going because I think
it's a good conversation to be had, especially about a
high profile player like to a VJ.
Speaker 1 (33:43):
Vernon Husky already spend it.
Speaker 2 (33:44):
In four Jason Smith and his best friend Mike Harmon
will be back Fox Sports Radio.
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Fox Sports Radio comes to you low from the Tiret
dot Com studio. So let's jump right back into that.
First of all, I messed around and got a triple double.
That's my favorite line in this whole song.
Speaker 3 (34:10):
Man.
Speaker 1 (34:11):
Anyway, Arnie, do you know who this is. No, I
probably do, but once you tell me, but no, no, no, no,
go ahead, I take a guess. I don't know. I
have no idea his ice cube. Okay, okay, I thought
you might know.
Speaker 2 (34:21):
This is kind of an easy Okay, So let's get
right back to this. About this, this the the hitting
of you know, cornbra what's done on purpose? Patrick, you
add something you want to jump in and jump this
in Arnie, you have something you want to add to
Patrick go first?
Speaker 1 (34:36):
Oh yeah, no.
Speaker 8 (34:37):
So with the like the like the twist thing, like
at least like with the concussions thing, like I don't
know if it's like any conspiracy, but like why like
if we're putting the example of like why he had
like you know, two like concussion stuff and then compared
to Mitch Trubisky. One was like, yeah, Trubisky does have
his concussions and stuff, but at least with Tua he's
had in recent memory some yet like maybe same number,
(34:58):
but it's different in sense of like we've seen this
man like go down and it's scary. Each like at
least the last two to three of those concussions the
last two or three years or wherever it was, have
looked so bad, so scary, so severe looking, and like
with the signs, like you know, the fencing thing and and.
Speaker 1 (35:18):
All that stuff, it's like the scariest and there was
CT on the rise.
Speaker 8 (35:24):
Like I think why he's had longer, he's just more
of a precaution and all that stuff like and and
I kind of get it. It's just it's looked way
worse than other people that have had maybe five or
six and all of stuff. And I'm not saying that's
right or wrong, but he in particular, because he's on
that wide view.
Speaker 2 (35:40):
I think that there should well, before I say my part, already,
go ahead and ad what you want that in before.
Speaker 5 (35:44):
But just you know, it's funny about that you said
it is the optics, because we've seen what happens the
two and we've seen him, you know, you know, on
camera and the way it reacts. But how come nobody's
saying anything about Warner playing out a fractured ankle. How
come nobody says, you know, you really shouldn't be doing
that because in about ten years you may not be
able to walk again, or it's gonna ruin your life,
(36:07):
or it's gonna cut your life short we say it
with the concussion, and we're worried about Tua, but yet
nobody say anything about water playing with a fractured ankle.
Speaker 1 (36:16):
That's a good point. Ye, that's a great point.
Speaker 5 (36:18):
It's pretty secreous stuff. I don't know why that gets
to be overlooked. There was a guy on the bills
of that Nike Concussions I don't remember his name.
Speaker 2 (36:27):
We we didn't reason why Troy is the reason why
Troy Aikman had to retire, right, But we.
Speaker 5 (36:31):
Didn't say, hey, come, how's this guy able to play
with NI concussions?
Speaker 2 (36:35):
So heines Ward once said, and this is recent I
saw on the interview on the podcast he did Arnie.
Heines Ward said he would act. He would start limping
and acting like he hurt his leg so that they
wouldn't pay attention to whether he was woozy or not. Yeah, guys,
guys used to guys used to hide it. Man, there
there were I think it was Ocho Siko who said
(36:56):
that he would he would go to like the hard
hits safety.
Speaker 1 (36:59):
Let me ask you.
Speaker 5 (36:59):
This, out of all the injuries you've heard, like so
and so got hurt in practice, knock Wood hurt his
knee hurt his ankle. Have you ever heard somebody said
he got a concussion in practice?
Speaker 1 (37:09):
Never?
Speaker 5 (37:10):
And then how many times? And how many times do
you think it out that? Oh God, if somebody gets
a concussion. I got a concussion in middle school. I
was playing for Bevil Middle School. I hit Kofee Baywall
from Godwin Middle School. I was playing for Bevil. All
my memories impeccable. It's the last game of the year.
It was on Halloween. We're playing Godwin for the league championship.
Kofe Baywah, who ended up playing high school football with
(37:30):
at Garfols Senior High School in del City, Virginia. I
laid a hit on this kid, but we both got
up Moozie and my stepdad, Glenn Thomas, was the one
that told me.
Speaker 2 (37:39):
He's like, yeah, you probably got a concussion. I was
like what, And I'll be honest with you. I wore
like a badge of honor. I bragged about it in
school the next day. I told all the girls about it, like, yeah,
you know, good games, He's I was like, yeah, you know,
you know, I got a concussion yesterday. How was in
school bragging about it? I was thirteen fourteen years old.
So what happens all the time, all the time time.
(38:00):
My point is this the three to these gut where
he's you know, the three concussions. That two was gotten
in the last two to three years and then and
played for the Miami Dolphins.
Speaker 1 (38:07):
Didn't have any last year, so he had two. The
year prior to that, he missed four games. Motes.
Speaker 2 (38:11):
I remember Christmas Day, he gets tackled, he falls his head,
bumps on the ground against the Packers. He misses the
rest of the year, including the playoff game at Buffalo.
So when he gets the concussion, of course from the Kansas.
From the Cincinnati game, he missed another four games. He
gets the concussion this year against I think it was
the Buffalo game, he misses four games. I just want
to know, why does Tua have to miss four games
(38:33):
when he gets a concussion. Mitchell Chrubisky got two concussions
last year.
Speaker 1 (38:37):
He didn't see any time.
Speaker 2 (38:38):
So I'm just if there's gonna be a universal rule,
then it needs to be laid out quick sidebar Arnie
Lakers just lost tonight one O three to ninety three.
JJ Reddick looks super pizsit of the press conference weren't
they supposed to fix everything because Darvin Ham was the issue.
They have the exact same record that Darvin Ham had
(38:59):
at this point last year.
Speaker 1 (39:00):
Well, they were off to a better sport.
Speaker 5 (39:02):
They had ten and five at one point that they
want to That's not what they are right now though. No, No,
I know what they are right now. I know they're
still gonna look. They still needed another player. Whether they
get that another player, it's gonna be interesting to see
because I'm waiting to see if they're gonna end up
trading Jannis or something.
Speaker 6 (39:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (39:18):
Man, Lebron's the only guy that needs somebody all the
damn time.
Speaker 1 (39:22):
Yes, well, so what they'll get him too?
Speaker 2 (39:25):
No, they won't know, they won't, they won't. I know
they've been put out in the air. The Lakers are
shopping for a big man. Who who?
Speaker 1 (39:33):
Who? What big man are you getting? Nobody's helping you
out no more. I like what Zach Levine. I know
that they want to shop him around here. Yeah, and
you know what.
Speaker 2 (39:41):
Lebron's gonna do it to him. He's gonna turn him
into a stand on a three point line, three point shooter,
That's what he's gonna turn into. Because who dominates the
ball Lebron does.
Speaker 1 (39:50):
So what's what's that? What's Zach Levine gonna do?
Speaker 3 (39:53):
No?
Speaker 2 (39:54):
Yeah, all right, well well we'll see man. I listen,
it doesn't matter. I had him at forty three wins.
That's about what they're all pay for right now.
Speaker 1 (40:01):
But what we're on pace for?
Speaker 2 (40:02):
Great, great three hours, Arnie, one hour left, Buddy, let's go.
Speaker 1 (40:07):
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