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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 1 (00:29):
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Daunton's night so far for the Lakers, the twenty twenty
five twenty twenty six NBA MVP now has twenty seven.
Midway through the second quarter, Lakers have a fifty seven
to fifty three lead over the Clippers. It was a

(01:12):
twenty four point first quarter for Luca, who then sat
for the first half of the second quarter before coming
in just a few minutes ago. Crown them.

Speaker 3 (01:21):
You're just crowning them already. September twenty fifth Brid album.

Speaker 1 (01:26):
This is how you win the NBA MVP. You get
out to a big lead in the beginning and you coast.
That's how you do it. He's not in the lead though,
That's how you do a stir. But he's getting the
medal by the beginning of January. Jason, you're a fan.
What do you know about the lead? I could because
we blow them at the end. I lead, then we bought.
This will not be a lead that Luca blows. We
will blow the leads. That's all it's gonna happen.

Speaker 3 (01:48):
We play a one point game to spite all his heroics.

Speaker 1 (01:51):
Okay, so he's a ball hawk, right, wow, you just
you're just about you're flailing for a hot take on Luca.
You're just that last eight seconds. I didn't like it.

Speaker 3 (02:02):
Gotta get the other teammates involved a lot of standing
around and ball watching.

Speaker 1 (02:07):
You know, That's what I thought. Will Chamberlain's teammates let
him down that hundred point night. Where's anybody else open
for a shot? Where were the fun to score that game?
One hundred and one to eighty seven?

Speaker 3 (02:17):
Yeah, I mean they still had a margin of victory here.
I mean, this is this is a much I mean,
you gotta get the victory and then we extole the
virtues of a massive scoring night. But if you lose,
you're James Harden.

Speaker 1 (02:30):
We'll keep you updated on this game. Fifty five points
James Harden. Fifty five James Harden. Yeah, and a rare
Clipper win high James Harden. So we'll keep you updated
on this game. Tons of fun so far. Again, still
about three and a half minutes to go before halftimes.

Speaker 3 (02:43):
Oh yeah, I mean, because it's this is the glory.
If it's starting at eight fifteen in our time, is
gonna keep going.

Speaker 1 (02:49):
You know, it's a game that people on the East
Coast are gonna wake up to my morning, Go man,
Luca had a sixty point night. Oh it was too later.
I'd have watched it. People are gonna say, too later,
I to watch.

Speaker 3 (02:58):
One subscribed to Peak Eye two. If it matters that
much to.

Speaker 1 (03:02):
You, it doesn't matter about. It doesn't matter subscribing to Peacock.
It's staying up, Okay, people still have people stay, people
to get up. And since the morning tomorrow is a holiday,
people for a lot of me. But this, but this
is something they do all the time, all the games
when they do Coast to Coast Knights, all the games
beginningt eight o'clock. This is not just you're also.

Speaker 3 (03:19):
Talking like a responsible holiday.

Speaker 1 (03:25):
I think you'd be surprised viewership of sports, sporting events,
especially something that happens every night.

Speaker 3 (03:30):
The number of well, you know, hey six a cup night.

Speaker 1 (03:33):
It is cuts the battle for l A. I don't
know if anybody knew it was a cup night.

Speaker 3 (03:39):
He's really kind of nights Retinas.

Speaker 1 (03:43):
And here we are league games smoky put zero market,
zero market zero.

Speaker 3 (03:48):
I mean, at least it isn't the fire red that
makes me feel like I've descended to the fifth ring
of hell.

Speaker 1 (03:54):
What what if I were to tell you guys that
this game hasn't even tipped yet? WHOA we're seeing I'm
watching an AI version of it.

Speaker 3 (04:04):
I mean I do like the SpongeBob yellow on the court.
I mean that's good.

Speaker 1 (04:08):
No, listen to Crypto under the seat. So again we'll
keep you updated on this game throughout the night. Again,
really entertaining game so far. Maybe lucascoes sixty tonight. But
we are getting said for three big games on Thursday
in the NFL, all with big time playoff implications. So
let's take a look at all of them right now.

(04:29):
We'll go and show order. We'll go and order. You're
gonna wake up and watch. Is Joe Burrow who says,
I like I like playing on Thanksgiving because his memories
of growing up or waking up watching the Lions play,
Matthew Stafford throwing for four hundred yards and the Lions losing.
So let's start with Packers lines. I would love to
be able to pick the Packers in this. But Dan

(04:51):
Campbell sort of hit the nail on the head a
bit today when he talked about their start seven and four,
not quite what it was last She said, Listen, last
year was great, but this year maybe we realize we
got to fight for it a little bit more, because
clearly for the Lions it is all mental. It feels
like it's all mental for them because you see the talent,
what they can do at a drop, how talented Jamier

(05:12):
Gibbs is how talented that offense is at home on Thanksgiving.
The Packers are prone to putting up stinkers every couple
of weeks. I know they have the better record coming in.
This is a Lions win. This is the Lions offense
showing up on Thursday and being too big of an
animal for the Packers to keep up with. Again, Jordan
Love is just sometimes dynamic. Sometimes he's just a guy.

(05:37):
And he has too many games of Wow. Sixteen for
twenty five fo one hundred and seventy one yards and
no touchdowns, Like, he has too many games like that,
and I think Thursday is one of those games for
Jordan Love. Give me the Lions. Give me the Lions big,
a big offensive performance by Detroit. They get to eight
and four.

Speaker 3 (05:52):
He's at twenty five hundred yards for the year, fifteen
touchdowns against three picks. He's gone without a touchdown in
three of his last four starts.

Speaker 1 (06:02):
Two and two.

Speaker 3 (06:02):
Record Giants win and Vikings win obviously this past week.
But you also look at a guy who's gone sub
two hundred yards four of his last six starts. Along
the way the fits and starts, he got a great
effort out of Emmanuel Wilson. You might need him again,
so for fantasy purposes before your waivers expired tonight, just
go see maybe he was still floating out there because

(06:24):
Josh Jacob's still a question mark for this one. But
that offense has been too inconsistent, and even pressure pressures
are a great category. Are you getting home? Are you
getting home? And for Jared Golfing Company, he's not been
necessarily special either. The loss of the portal, while he's
not been a beast, certainly does change the complexion of
the offense where it's now becoming an awful lot of

(06:45):
I'm on Ross Saint Brown and Jamior Gibbs, Like, there's
a lot of guys that are bystanders running wind sprints
right now for that squad. So while I don't have
full faith and confidence in the Lions, I have more
so than I do of the packers.

Speaker 1 (07:03):
The packers are tough to be confident in because they'll
show you something one week and you go, Wow, that's
really good, and Micah Parsons love a big week and
then next week you go, what the hell is that?
That's it? Like, what the hell is that?

Speaker 4 (07:13):
Man?

Speaker 3 (07:14):
Yeah, because the last two wins are against the Giants
and the Vikings. You beat who's on the schedule, that's fine.
But they didn't exactly win either of those games with
style points.

Speaker 1 (07:22):
No, they show up flat a lot, and they sort
of I don't want to say talent their way by,
but it's not. It's not to the point of they
show up flat and they and they give it in
fear efforts. They show flat and it's just enough, and
it really surprises you that that this is the effort
you get from them. I have a pretty good feeling
I'm gonna get a better effort from the Lions at

(07:43):
home on Thanksgiving.

Speaker 3 (07:44):
Revenge game for Week one. Go back to a twenty
seven thirteen Green Bay win.

Speaker 1 (07:50):
Chiefs send the Cowboys. Maybe forty five million people will
watch this game.

Speaker 3 (07:55):
This one's bag, right, the two.

Speaker 1 (07:56):
Biggest games we've seen the last five regular season games,
the last five Cowboys Giants on Thanksgiving in twenty twenty
two and twenty twenty four. Right, forty two million, thirty
eight million, Right, Yes, Giants are a bit. This is
when the Giants were terrible. This is the Giants suck like.
This is not ay Giants. The Giants sucked and it's
not like the Cowboys are great either, But this is

(08:17):
Cowboys Chiefs, both teams incredibly interesting, incredibly fun Thanksgiving. This is,
without a doubt, gonna be the highest rated game of
the year in the NFL regular season. And it's not
gonna be close. It's gonna be twenty miles between this
game and whatever is number two. The entire world will
tune into Chiefs Cowboys, and you are going to see

(08:38):
the Dallas Cowboys eke out of victory at home in
a high scoring game. I'm gonna say Cowboys thirty eight,
Chiefs thirty five. A big day for a Homes. You
see a lot of highlights on the board. Mahomes comes
up big. But this Cowboys offense right now, coming off
that Eagles comeback, they are riding high. They are uns stoppable.

(09:00):
The Chiefs defense is not great. The Cowboys are running
the football well, They're doing everything well offensively. They will
have enough to beat the Chiefs because right now I
have more confidence in the Cowboys offense than the Chiefs offense.
Chiefs still struggle a little bit too much, even though
Mahomes has been otherworldly this year. But give me the
Cowboys to get over the five hundred mark, drop the
Chiefs to five hundred. I'll take the Cowboys at home

(09:23):
again the over under, and this is fifty two and
a half. You could put the over under at ninety
and I might still take the over for this game.

Speaker 3 (09:29):
That's like a lot of college games. Fifty two and
a half, the Cowboys getting three at home. You're looking
for the big Brandon Aubrey effect to chime in here.
You look at seven touchdowns against two picks the last
three weeks for Dak Prescott two and one record. Those
the wins over Vegas and the Eagles, the loss going

(09:49):
back to Jacoby Brissett when that was the back to
back losses with one against Denver for the Chiefs. Moderately
encourage you get the check go back now that he's
great shakes, but the fact that they were able to
rely on the tucking into the gut of Kareem Hunt
with his thirty plus touches this last week, and he

(10:10):
actually had a couple of explosives in the pass passing game.
With Rashid Rice and Xavier Worthy still waiting, not Worthy
to be a more consistent option, but for Rice to
have an explosive player two is something that's been missing.
The intermediate and long passing game hasn't been there for
the For the Cowboys defense still a bit of a

(10:33):
step up in class, right. We watched it a little
bit obviously going from the Raiders. I mean, there's no
way to go but up. They fired Chip Kelly. They
were averaging fifteen points per game, So yeah, anything's better,
even if the Eagles are grossly inconsistent and still an
enigma and all of those things that we talk about,
the conundrum, enigma, chaos theory of what they've got going on.

(10:55):
I'm gonna take the Chiefs on the road to win
this one because of those explosives get home in the secondary,
not necessarily needing to work from the run game, but
they'll do it enough to keep Quinn Williams in company occupied.
But they'll get enough explosives to get over the hump.
And Butcker versus versus Aubrey slight edge Aubrey, but Butker

(11:17):
sees the field more frequently.

Speaker 1 (11:19):
The nightcap the aforementioned Joe Burrow against Lamar Jackson and
the Ravens. This is a huge game for the Ravens.
They're gonna push this as you're gonna tune in this game,
and you're gonna say so many times, you know. I
know the Bengals are at three and eight, but they
have the Steelers still, they have two.

Speaker 3 (11:39):
Games against the Ravens. Else if they can win these.

Speaker 1 (11:41):
Games, Joe Burrow is back, Ah, they can still do it.
And the crazy thing is it's not one hundred percent crazy.
They needed to win Sunday. Sunday was a big loss
for them. That was really big. But Joe Burrow coming
back is gonna be the juice the Bengals need to win.
Mainly because we talked about this yesterday. Lamar Jackson is
not the same. He is maybe fifty percent of what

(12:03):
he normally is. Watching him Sunday against the Jets, the
Jets were able to control him. He couldn't get outside.
He has zero escapability right now. And whatever injuries he's
been dealing with, now you add the toe injury to it.
That he's on there for this week. It's a short week.
It's not gonna suddenly get better. I know the Bengals
defense is bad, but you saw the Ravens have trouble
putting points up against the Jets. They had to rely

(12:24):
on two big pass interference penalties to put ten points
on the board, or they were punting, like that's how
bad the Jets were they so we're gonna come in penalties.
Oh now you gave him points again. But it's not
about the Jets because they just think. But that's how
rough it was for the Ravens. Yes, they've won a
bunch of games in a row now, but they're not
trending up and Lamar Jackson has banged up. Give me
the Bengals on the field winning this game now.

Speaker 3 (12:47):
I like the cut of your jib because I was
kind of leaning that way my own self. Plus six
and a half on the road for this one fifty two,
So we're expecting some fireworks at all three of these games.
Forty eight and a half fifty two and a half
fifty two. I ask you this, if we were to
make them both video game characters, this might actually show
up as part of the Peacock coverage and NBC coverage.

(13:09):
Who has the better power bar and is more close
to one hundred percent? Is it Joe Burrow coming off
his long standing injury from Lamar.

Speaker 1 (13:18):
Jackson at this point? Oh wow, man, it is it
is really, I mean, you watch you watch Lamar Jackson play.
I don't know how many people watch the Ravens and
the Jets. But again, remember I watched bad football. That's
out to But if you saw Lamar Jackson play in
the first half, you would say, how is he in
the game? Like it looked like he was playing at
three quarter speed? Like okay, I'm just out here to

(13:40):
run the offense in a scrimmage. I should have the
red jersey on for no contact. That's what he looked like,
and it was. It was stunning to watch. Well, but
go back to that game against the Browns. You've got
short yardage situations, You've got big gutta habit moments.

Speaker 3 (13:53):
What are they doing? They're calling running plays with Mark Andrews. No,
it's a great trick play and one you didn't anticipate.
But you're bringing him in in short yardage because Dereck
Henry is not of your shorts, your short yardage guy,
even though he's had what three three pretty good performances over.

Speaker 1 (14:08):
The last month.

Speaker 3 (14:09):
Here's a stat I just thought I'd run past, you know,
T Higgins for this one. With the concussion last five games,
Jamar Chase against the Bay against the Ravens, thirty seven
catches in a row in a row, five hundred and
eighty four yards, seven touchdowns. The last one without t
Higgins had eleven receptions was near two hundred yards. So

(14:32):
go feast against that secondary. Kyle Hamilton and then several
other members of that secondary banged up as well.

Speaker 1 (14:39):
Exit ab out of Fresco, Exit swallend dopes. There you go.
There's our picks for Thanksgiving Day. We'll have more NFL
on the way, but straight ahead, a huge night in
college football. The newest playoff pole is out and now
you're starting to see what teams could be big Steelers.
This weekend, college football insider Pete Futak stops by to

(14:59):
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Speaker 1 (15:47):
Fox Sports Radio, The Jason Smith Show with my best
friend Mike Harmon. Hold listen, You're Smith live from the
Fox Sports Radio Studios. Okay, Ricky halftime, Lakers lead the
cl Hippers sixty nine to sixty six. Not a lot
of defense in the first half, certainly not on Luca
Luka Doncic thirty two points in the first half. He

(16:10):
had twenty four in the first quarters over seconteen. Well
he actually second, I should say he sat out the
first six minutes the second quarter. Lazy, all those shuts.
You need some time.

Speaker 3 (16:23):
He need some water man, I gotta rest. Get that
ice pack on.

Speaker 1 (16:26):
Uh so again, we'll love more in this game, Steve
de say, you will have more details coming up with
what's trending in a few minutes. But the latest college
football playoff pole is out and now we are officially
in the bid stealing NCAA tournament portion of the college
football calendar, joining us now in the hotline. Nobody better
than the owner, editor, proprietor of College Footballnews dot com.

(16:49):
All the previews, all the prognostications, all the breakdowns. He's
here to tell you what teams are in danger even
though they look like they could make it of not
making the College Football Playoff. It is Pete few Tech
if he what's happening? Man?

Speaker 4 (17:03):
I mean you could drive yourself crazy because like you
could pretty much get the eleven and zero teams are fine.
Everyone else though there's a case to be made that
on the wrong day they can all be kind of hosed.

Speaker 6 (17:16):
So like Alabama, you.

Speaker 1 (17:19):
Could get hosed, right Alabema, I mean really, Oh if.

Speaker 4 (17:23):
They lose to if they lose Tuburn, they're out. You know,
so Sartolets, you know somehow they miraculously someone gay, but
they're out. Like if BYU wins the Big Twelve Championship,
this thing goes haywire, because then Bama had better win
the SEC championship. And if by you and Alabama both
win their respective conference championships, Notre Dames out and then

(17:46):
like what do you do if Georgia Tech beats Georgia
because twenty three Georgia Tech tenant two, number four Georgia
tenant two.

Speaker 6 (17:56):
You know, everyone's arguing Miami.

Speaker 4 (17:57):
Notre Dame right now, head to head.

Speaker 6 (17:59):
Wealf it just happened, and like.

Speaker 4 (18:00):
What do you do then? So there's a whole lot
of funky stuff that can still happen, but it's probably
all gonna go chalk. It's probably gonna be easy. And
then you know, we get Ohio State winning the national championship.

Speaker 1 (18:10):
Yeah, but I got one for you, Pete. You didn't
bring up if Michigan beats Ohio State Saturday. Don't they
have to be in regardless of what happens in the
Big Ten Championship.

Speaker 6 (18:19):
There's so much traffic ahead of them.

Speaker 4 (18:21):
I mean, first of all, they can if they do this,
there's still a path I think it's that they need.
If Washington beats Oregon, then they're in the Big Ten
Championship at that point, and then they can play their
way into this.

Speaker 6 (18:36):
Now.

Speaker 4 (18:37):
I kind of don't think it's going to happen either way.
But you know, it's crazy to say everyone every competently
forgets that last year's Michigan team could not complete a forward.

Speaker 1 (18:46):
Path and they go on, Yeah, as ben As Price
Underwood's been like that. Last year was even worse.

Speaker 4 (18:51):
Yeah yeah, it's literally I mean I completely actually forgotten
til I live again, Like, oh yeah, that's right. They
only won like like they gave like three yards of
little offense and once thirteen to ten, like it was
like the weirdest thing, like yeah, it's not crazy if this,
you know, look, go house. It hasn't beating anybody. They
haven't beaten a team that's gonna go bowling, and you

(19:13):
give less Penn State wins this week and like over
a month. I mean, look at their schedule and the
Texas at the beginning, and they haven't any drawer release
since August. So I let's.

Speaker 6 (19:24):
See what they can do.

Speaker 4 (19:24):
And they're under a little bit of pressure here, Yeah.

Speaker 3 (19:27):
But even better chaos theory. Lane Kiffin leaves on Saturday.
How many spots is he worth? Because they already pushed
him behind Oregon, saying that Oregon's win over USC was
like some benchmark win that they needed to achieve, Like
really that was that's what we're doing.

Speaker 4 (19:43):
Come on, I'll argue this if let's say Kiffin decides
that he's gone, Okay, they beat Mississippi State, all right, yeah, yeah, yeah, okay,
then you know they're in no matter what, they're not
gonna pell it. But let's say they lose to Mississippi State,
like it's the bowl that the state's got guys on scholarship.
You know, that's a dangerous team. You know this, No,

(20:04):
miss isn't that great. I mean, it could possibly happen.
And then Kiffin says he's gone to LSU all of
a sudden. If you're the committee, it's kind of like,
remember a couple of years ago in Florida State lost
quarterback Jordan Trevitt. That factors in. You got a factor in.
Wait a minute, you don't you're head coach anymore. That's
that factors into this whole thing, so that it's ugly.

(20:26):
I mean, if you're Kiffin, I mean, he's fine, this
is business, this is the life we've chosen. I'm fine
with it. But if you're going to go to LSU
or Florida or the Giants or wherever, you gotta at
least play it out. You gotta just say, okay, after
the college football playoff in a month, you got me.

Speaker 6 (20:43):
You know you can.

Speaker 4 (20:43):
You're laying Kiff and you can dictate the terms however
you want to say, Yeah, I'm taking off, I'm gonna
make the bazillion dollars, but after the playoff. Otherwise that's
just not American. That's just wrong. You know. If you're
leaving these guys before the playoff.

Speaker 1 (20:57):
Well, here's what I think is why this is the
day after the Egg Bowl, And I'll tell you exactly
why I think he's gone. No matter what I think
he's I think he's leaving right whether it's LSU for
that offer, Florida, I think he's gone. But why the
day after the Egg Bowl? If they win, Lane Kiff
and it's going to be announced he's going to be
going to LSU or Florida, but he's staying through the

(21:19):
playoff because this is new territory we have and this
is what it's going to be like. Coach for teams,
poaching coaches, you have to understand they're going to stay
through the playoff when they're there. So they win, it's
announced that he's going. He's gonna stay through the playoff,
but lose to Mississippi State and maybe be out and
then it's you're fired and you're out right now, and

(21:39):
you're done, and we're going to figure stuff out. So
I wonder if if he loses the Egg Bowl, they're
going to at least gain a little bit of you're fired,
you want out now, we're firing you losing the egg Bowl.

Speaker 4 (21:48):
Yeah, there's no way to do this, right. I mean, look,
Eric Morris, the North Texas head coach, just took the
Oklahoma State job Oklahoma State playoffs to saying.

Speaker 6 (21:56):
Hey, we got a coach who but he's coaching.

Speaker 4 (21:59):
North Texas through what ever is happening next, whether it
be the American Conference Championship, the bowl game, whatever, he's
I don't I get not coaching a bowl game, that's fine.
You got to move on. You got you know, transfer portals,
all that happening, that's fine. The playoffs is a different
sort of thing. So yeah, it's I don't know why
they're doing this other than you're right, they wouldn't be
doing this if he was staying you know it's it

(22:21):
would be you announce it beforehand, everyone be fired up,
and oh miss well, our guys around you know, you're
unless he's just being reality start, you know, jerk weed
here and he's gonna, you know, do a big reveal
with a hat. He's got to be gone, and good

(22:42):
luck to you.

Speaker 6 (22:42):
You know.

Speaker 4 (22:42):
Look, he's already on the hot seat at LSU. He
hasn't won a national championship there yet, so okay, then
he's in trouble.

Speaker 1 (22:50):
Well, Pete, I want to throw this out there here.
You mentioned Oklahoma State. How much fun is it going
to be next year watching Drew Mestimaker playing at Oklahoma
State next year throwing touchdowns?

Speaker 4 (22:59):
Well, it can't be. He's gotta be more fun than
this year, because man, it's stay bad. But yeah, you
know what, it's a good spot. You know, there's some
guys who just you never know, you absolutely never know.
When you get a guy in a in a in
a place who was talking about this before coming on
the air here, it's like, you know, I, you know,
how is it not working at lane? Kiffen hasn't won
twelve national titles at USC yet? And you know, I thought, whatever,

(23:20):
stat it just came up that like, in the same
period of game so far, Clay Helton actually had a
better record and won a conference title and you know
all that stuff, and it's just it seems like you
should do more if you're Lincoln Riley there, So you
just never know until you get a guy in the
building and all of a sudden, it all takes off.

Speaker 3 (23:39):
And worse, Lincoln Riley one of those guys starting to
get crowned once again, and just like that, he got
punched in the face.

Speaker 6 (23:48):
Well, so I'm making somebody gosh that team, like you.

Speaker 4 (23:52):
And I both said, I thought USU was gonna beat Oregon,
I'm still not that soul order, but like, uh, big
guysh is there like a dumb penalty that couldn't make
on Saturday. It's just they kept screwing up, and it's
just you can't give that Oregon team the momentum. It
just it was just a weird game all the way around.
But USC should be better than that. It should be

(24:13):
you know, you can make the argument that's the biggest
name program to not be in the college football playoffs
during the sero, so it's it should be a little
better than it is. But let's let's see what they
do in UCLA. Let's see if they just come out
in fifty two to three m and you know, just okay,
that was fun and go from there.

Speaker 1 (24:31):
Yeah, that's the thing Pete now is is Yes, there's
so much to happen between now and the end of
the season. Look, I know, look, no, Tre Dame might
not even be a lock for the playoff.

Speaker 4 (24:40):
No, they're not.

Speaker 1 (24:41):
How much of that? How much of the reputations of
the bigger schools, right like use Notre Dame for example,
or Michigan if they wind up winning the game over
Ohio State Saturday, how much of those it's a television show.
These teams are better in it, they won big games.
How much is that going to play in their favor?
Is it going to be like it is in the past,
where hey, the big market, the big teams that you know,

(25:03):
they're going to get better sway than the others.

Speaker 4 (25:06):
I don't think so. Because the thing about the Collge
football playoff command I know this from the inside. If
that were the case, no way they leave out because
Althema should have been in. That's your over SMU and
they didn't. So putting SMU in over Alabama okay, that
kind of kills that, you know, But they honestly and

(25:27):
they make mistakes. This last round of rankings is a
total car crash. Uh, there's so many whiffs and inconsistencies
in there. But they're trying, They really are legitimately trying
to come up with the best tournament possible. And again,
part of the issue is these are We've talked about
this before. These are people with jobs. You know, these

(25:49):
are like they have lives and stuff. They don't sit
there and watch hot action on a Tuesday night.

Speaker 6 (25:54):
You know, they kind of you know, do they do
real off and so they kind of payed no college football,
but they aren't quite as deep as.

Speaker 4 (26:05):
They probably should be in the theoretical side. So okay,
and they but all they care about is is this
tournament the best possible? Because their thought is if the game,
if the tournament's good and the games are good and
the matchups are good, everything else falls into place.

Speaker 3 (26:19):
Joe, I love the last couple of weeks when we
get them in front of the microphone to start giving
us a little tidnitch.

Speaker 4 (26:24):
Why can't do it?

Speaker 6 (26:25):
We can't.

Speaker 4 (26:25):
It's like the two mysteries. It's twenty twenty five, and
one we can't get cameras on the goal line of
every football game imaginable. And two we don't have cameras
in on the process of them. But like, like, if
you can't justify your arguments for each of these spots,
what are you doing? You know, why can't you just
we should be able to see the arguments and be like, okay, fine,

(26:46):
you just you know, we don't agree with you, but
all right, you're arguing this because they again they really
are trying to do this. They're going by metrics and
they're making cases and they're making arguments and you know,
nobody's going to agree with you. Fans are weird and crazy,
but at least transparency would make this a whole lot easier.

Speaker 1 (27:04):
Yeah, nothing else.

Speaker 3 (27:05):
They give us one or two little bullet points every
week that show us, you know, some of the novelty
to it all.

Speaker 4 (27:12):
Pete speaking, they need a press secretary that's the White House.
They need like it. They need someone to come out,
a true PR person to be me.

Speaker 6 (27:21):
But if they should need a.

Speaker 4 (27:22):
True PR person who can come out and just flat
out like articulate it, because it's bad when you get
together like they just don't, you know, they kind of
mumble and they don't want to say anything wrong. You
need someone to sell it better. And then I think
that kind of at least if you're show us to
some viction with all these picks, then everyone else kind
of shuts up about it.

Speaker 3 (27:43):
Well, I mean that's that's the the larger thing, right,
is that without the transparency at least gives us talking
heads and ability to blow our respective stacks in those marketplaces.

Speaker 4 (27:54):
Yeah, it'll be better when it's like fifty nine teams
or we can talk about even more of them.

Speaker 6 (27:59):
Then you kids to get in it.

Speaker 3 (28:00):
Well, Texas might get into but our training two and
a half point dogs this week.

Speaker 4 (28:06):
I like them. Look, Texas A and M hasn't played
everyone's getting into all of this team did DBTA one?

Speaker 6 (28:13):
This team beating A one? Take it?

Speaker 4 (28:14):
I just dog Ohio state schedule. Texas A and M
has not played Alabama, Oklahoma, Georgia, Uh, who's the ole
miss and they have yet now they're going to play Texas.
They've missed everybody, so like, yeah, they beat Nor Dame
at the beginning, and then they beat a bunch of
teams that hadn't beaten anybody else.

Speaker 6 (28:34):
And okay, let's see.

Speaker 4 (28:35):
I kind of think this is one of those that
Texas defense kind of rises up and oh, arch is
okay and it's just it's in Texas and something. You know,
it's weird. It's Friday, it's thanks Thanksgiving, Texas A and
m in I think Texas A and I think Texas
takes him on this.

Speaker 1 (28:52):
You can fall him on Twitter at Pete Feutech. That is,
at Pete Feutech, the website's college footballnews dot com. You're
one stop shop for everything college football. Pete as always
enjoy Happy Thanksgiving. We'll talk to you next week. Enjoy
the game, Enjoy the games. There goes Pete fu Tech
again again. We're in the bid stealing season. You're watching

(29:14):
college football this weekend like you would watch the end
of the conference tournaments in college basketball when you know
your team is on the bubble and you say, boy,
if so and so wins the Horizon, or if so
and so wins the MAC, that's gonna screw us. That's
gonna because they got to get in. They're gonna take
another school. That's where you're at right now in the
bid stealing Like if Michigan wins this week, that's gonna

(29:35):
wind up screwing some people, right b YU winning could
wind up screwing Alabama, but you could legitimately walk into
a class and to sign every kid in your class
a different team and say give me their pathway into
the playoff and go. And I do want to say
this because this is a big deal for this weekend,
watching Bryce Underwood all week all year. Eleven million dollars

(29:57):
a year, eleven million dollars for Bryce Underwood. That's not
quite what you've gotten from him this year, but it's
all worth it if he wins Saturday.

Speaker 3 (30:06):
That's all it is, getting paid eleven million.

Speaker 1 (30:08):
Dollars to one game right here. Hey, we're not going
to talk about the eleven million dollars you in this game,
does it?

Speaker 2 (30:14):
Well?

Speaker 1 (30:14):
Pirate Steve's rolling up with a treasure jest. If we
win this game, we'll give you another eleven million just
for winning this game. Saturday's going to take down old
black Beard. I mean Ryan Day time now to find
out what's trending in the wide world of sports, and
a guy who's been called the Ryan Day of Fox
Sports Radio.

Speaker 7 (30:37):
There is no there is no carlist.

Speaker 1 (30:39):
But I was see that story. I was waiting for
you to say yes, because I I.

Speaker 7 (30:43):
Have beaten Michigan just as often the last four years.
That is, of course the Big Ten game, you know,
a Big Ten title game. We're expecting to have number
one Ohio State against number two Indiana. Keep in mind
the game is in the Indianapolis. First, the buck Geys
play this Saturday at number five fifteen Michigan, that is
on Fox TV. Ohio State losing four straight years so

(31:05):
the Wolverines. The Buckeyes had been ranked number two in
the country for each of those games. In the TV
ratings this past weekend at just under five point four
million viewers, Oklahoma Missouri just over five point four million,
Oregon usc and at five point six million the Texas
Arkansas game. The SEC championship game could have Alabama against

(31:26):
Texas A and M, which is eleven to zero number
three ranked, although first A and M this week finishes
its regular season at number sixteen Texas Black Friday. If
the Aggies lose, then Georgia could get in instead. The
Bulldogs play number twenty three Georgia Tech during the day
that day. In the new College Football Playoff rankings, the
top five stayed the same, led by Ohio State, Oregon

(31:48):
up to number six. Miami the highest ranked ACC team
for now at number twelve, although they might not make
the ACC title game tu Lane at number twenty four
to the group of five teams North Texas currently ten
and one. They could become that team and get into
the playoff, and then they would lose their coach. Eric
Morris is going to be Oklahoma State's new head coach.

(32:11):
He's leaving North Texas after this season.

Speaker 1 (32:13):
Drew Mestermaker goal transfer and throw fifty touchdowns next year
for Oklahoma State.

Speaker 7 (32:18):
Eric Morris was the guy that had cam Ward in
college transfer. He this guy that I mean he had
Patrick Mahomes. He was offensive coordinator for Mahomes at Texas Tech.
Colorado will not play freshman QB Julian Lewis in at
season finale this Saturday to preserve his red shirt year.
Colorado's three and eight. North Dakota State gave coach Tim
Polask an extension through twenty thirty three. His team is

(32:41):
twelve and zero. The Saints signed kicker Cade York and
cut Blake Groupie Buffalo Bill signed.

Speaker 1 (32:46):
Wide Receive Jay Clearly group be no longer with the
band after today, DJ Clearly and you know the appropriately
named Saints trying out Justin Tucker this week, but no,
it was Kaid York.

Speaker 7 (33:00):
Getting the job. Buffalo Bill signed wide receiver Brandon Cook's
Red Sox acquired pitcher Sonny Gray from the Cardinals. In
the third of the three NBA games on this schedule,
they're just now to the middle of the third quarter
in La. The Lakers are leading eighty two to eighty
one over the Clippers. Luka Donsich in the first quarter
started five for five from three point range. He's up

(33:22):
to thirty five points in this contest. Three fouls first
half for Kawhi Leonards, so he's not gotten full minutes. Tonight.
He has nine points for the Clippers. Clips are shooting
fifty five percent from the floor, Lakers at sixty two
percent from the floor. Orlando Rip Philadelphia. Washington ended a
fourteen game losing streak, beating Atlanta easily CJ McCollum forty

(33:43):
six points and in college hoops, Tennessee beat number three
Houston seventy six seventy three.

Speaker 1 (33:48):
Back to you, Thank you, Steve O. We'll keep you
updated on this no defense game between the Lakers and
the Clippers. But straight ahead, if you love the Kansas
City Chiefs, get ready to meet the Kansas City Chiefs
of the NFC. That's next right here, Jason and Mike Fox. Wait,
there's cheaters in the NFC. WHOA, it's not the officials.

Speaker 2 (34:11):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
pm Pacific. But almost sounds like it was part of
the song.

Speaker 1 (34:23):
Remix Fox Sports Radio The Jason Smith Show with my
best friend Mike Harmon. Brow midway through the third quarter,
Clippers lead the Lakers eighty five eighty four. We'll have
more basketball coming up in about fifteen minutes, but as
we're taking a look this hour at all the big
games coming up the next few days in the NFL.

(34:44):
We previewed all three Thanksgiving Day games, and then Friday
we get the Black Friday Game, the Bears and the Eagles.
Me and I want to tell you this. If you
love the Chiefs, if you want to defend the Chiefs,
and you think the Chiefs are so good and all
they do is when they need to win, they win,
and they're still the favorites despite the fact they're six

(35:06):
and five. If you love the Chiefs, you have to
love the Bears, because the Bears are the Chiefs of
the NFC.

Speaker 3 (35:14):
Yeah, they run in parallel.

Speaker 1 (35:15):
I'll give you that. You know, obviously they don't have
the history the last years of the Chiefs, but the
same big offenses. Sometimes they give you a great day,
sometimes they give you enough when they need to in
the fourth quarter. Caleb Williams has done everything that Patrick
Mahomes has done at the end of games this year.

(35:36):
So if you love the Chiefs and you defend them
is all, they're still great. You gotta feel the same
way about the Bears because that's what the Bears are doing,
and the Bears are having a better season.

Speaker 3 (35:46):
Well, I mean think some of it just goes to
as you say, you don't have the history. So for
the Chiefs, it's been there, done that. As long as
they're playing meaningful football come December and they're not officially eliminated,
they can still rise up to grab you by the throat.
With the Bears, it's a fully new experience year of living, dangers, fun, exciting. Yeah,

(36:07):
certainly last minute heroics by the truck full that's cost.

Speaker 1 (36:12):
People a lot of a lot of free optumns. But
everybody loves the Chiefs for doing that, So you gotta
love the Bears.

Speaker 3 (36:17):
For doing I don't think they love them because I
wish they I think a lot of people wish they
would just die.

Speaker 1 (36:22):
You know. But when do you see a lot you
see a lot of the opinions in the media. Oh,
but the Chiefs are still the champs. So no, these
are the same teams. They're the exact same teams, and
the Bears and the Bears. Honestly, the Bears, I could
even say the Bears are a better version of the
Chiefs because the Bears play complimentary football really well, right,
like you see it. You see a lot in the

(36:42):
NFL games with teams where hey, their offense is really
good and you just need the defense to do a
little bit, and they don't. They let them down. We
have a or we have a really you know, we
need the defense come up with a big day defensively,
the offense struggles and the defense can't do it. Right,
But the Bears play complimentary football just as well as anybody.
When they need a stop, Hey, we need a stop

(37:03):
to get the ball back to the offense. Guess what
they get a stop, They get the ball back to
the offense. The offense scores, right. Hey, we need to
be able to run the ball a little bit on
this drive because we got to take the pressure off.
We can open some things up for the fourth quarter.
Bears can run the football a little bit, right. They
play complimentary football really well. They're they're both sides of
the football and special teams are in sync with each other.

(37:24):
But specifically, when the Bears need a big turnover, they
get it. Really, when the Bears get a turnover, they
get one every quarter. It feels like but like complimentary
football is a big thing, and it's you know, it's
being in sync and the Bears are really insane. I
don't know there's team more in sync this year with
both sides of the football. When one side needs the
other to do something, it's not just well, the defense

(37:45):
is terrible, so we need the offense to score forty points. Right, No,
you don't need that if you're the Bears. They are
finding away every single week.

Speaker 6 (37:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (37:51):
I mean, we talked about turnover differential, and that's one thing.
And going back to last year, Caleb Williams didn't turn
the ball over a lot of negative plays, eliminated a
lot of those. But they do take care of the
ball to the point where you've got far and away
the number one ranking in terms of turnover differential. What
is curious as this season goes on, and look, we

(38:13):
have the track record through week twelve of what they've
been able to do. They score twenty six point three
a game, and they rank twenty seventh in terms of
total defense. So the margins, you know, you're living on
the edge and it's exciting, it's thrilling. Is it sustainable?

Speaker 4 (38:30):
No?

Speaker 3 (38:31):
No, But it's a hell of a show to watch
Ben Johnson getting and coaxing more big plays out. You'd
love to see more of guys like a Dunza having
a regular appearance in the box score. Does it all
with the blocking and everything else. But you know, the
run game has been great with Monu Guy and DeAndre

(38:51):
Swift and complimentary football. It's been fine. This week a
massive test because on the other side you just have
a big green enigma in terms of what the Eagles bring.

Speaker 1 (39:02):
The Bear ye I mean, look had there? Yeah, uh
the Bear. You're right, The Bears aren't there yet, but
they're on the way. No, I did. I'd love to
have their talent more than probably twenty five other teams
in the NFL, especially offensively like they're like they are
becoming this year. They're not there yet, but you have
to give them credit for what they've done, and that's

(39:24):
when they Sometimes you can't just say, well they're escaping
when you make plays. We need to make plays. And
these are big clutch plays that the offense and Caleb
Williams are making. These are huge clutch plays.

Speaker 3 (39:35):
Your clutch player, clutch coaching, uh and the excellence of execution, right,
all of that has to come come to play in it.
You can't just always default to this team was no
good that they beat?

Speaker 6 (39:47):
Right?

Speaker 3 (39:47):
That like that that has become the lazy analysis in
the NFL. Well they only beat these they're still professionals.
Like as much as you can say these guys are quit, no, no,
they all need to get paid again. They all still
need another contract. So they're not quitting in week twelve.
Are they as good? Maybe? Maybe not right personnel wise,
and certainly the organization may have something to say with

(40:08):
what's getting put out there, but the players aren't exhibiting
any less of an effort. For the Bears. It's ahead
of schedule, right, He's a guy that's learning in Caleb,
he's learning the position all over again, and it's gone
far better than anybody could have planned in the wins losses,
even if folks in Chicago still want to raise Holy.

Speaker 1 (40:28):
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