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You'll find today's show and the best of version posted
right after we get off the air. So yes, absolute
history in Major League Baseball. Clayton Kershaw strikeout number three thousand,
almost if you were to borrow from Howie Rose, if
you're a scriptwriter and you believe in these kinds of things,
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The hundredth pitch of the night, Final pitch of the
night for Kershaw, ending the sixth inning his signature pitch
strikeout looking on the outside corner. Uh, it was about
you as good as you could expect. The only thing
Dodgers losing this game right now, but still a lot
of ways to go. Top of the seventh inning. But
you know, we talked about the moment, and I gotta
say this right because I feel I'm mad right now.
(01:37):
You're mad, mad, I'm mad. I'm mad for both of us.
I'm mad for both. Why is that, buddy, Because what
if I said, and I'm gonna say, you're gonna go,
oh my god, Jason, you guys suck.
Speaker 3 (01:46):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (01:46):
What if I said the whole time, hey watch this
because I don't know that we're gonna see this again. Yeah, no, true,
I know they're gonna see someone get to three thousand
strikeouts in Major League Baseball. Chris Sale, I like to think,
is gonna get there.
Speaker 4 (01:59):
But that's not gearing.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
It's you know it's not. But but I would right exactly,
I would say it's I'd say Chris Sail's probably a
little bit better than even chance of getting there as
long as he stays healthy.
Speaker 4 (02:10):
Yes, but he's also played for what he has seventy teams.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
Yeah, the more.
Speaker 4 (02:13):
But ye cut a jersey in the like three hundred
he did, he did if you count.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
If you count the number of the pieces he cut
that jersey up into and added to a strikeout total.
But like you look, he needs about four hundred more.
But for sev he's still pitching really well at the
age of thirty six. I would say a little bit
better than even chance he gets it. But this could
be the last time we see someone get there, right,
because there's nobody on the anywhere on the horizon that's
going to get to three thousand. It's it's it's a
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dying art. There's so many pitching and and and hitting
milestones that we're just not going to see in Major
League Baseball anymore that we grew up seeing every few years.
We saw three thousands every few years. All right, Tom
sever is there, Nolan Ryan is there. We would see that,
but now or not. But here's why I'm mad, Because
the play before the strikeout was a play at third base.
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Michael Taylor tries to steal third and Max Munsey is
injured trying to make the tag. Right, they throw Michael
Taylor out, which leaves Kaeper to come up as the
final out of the inning, which Kershaw gets to strike out.
But Max Munsey was on the ground for a few minutes.
It's a big deal. Uh, he could not put any
pressure on his leg, so he was helped off the
field by two Dodgers personnel. Right, it's like, oh my goodness,
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what's going on with Max Munsey? Right, So Kershaw's warming
up because there was a big five minute break and
again this way you say, oh my god, Jason, you
and Mike both suck. So we're the we finished talking
and we're getting ready to go to the update for
Martin Weiss and so okay, that's great, and uh and
we're looking over going, Hey, let's see that replay because
they didn't show a replay of the month he play
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at all. Was it a bad slide? Was it a
dirty slide? Was it Munsey just losing his balance?
Speaker 4 (03:49):
Anything?
Speaker 1 (03:50):
So we're what, Kershaw's warming up, and we're looking at
the and we're looking at the pitch on your on
your computer and we're watching months. He We're going, okay,
all right, no, does it does it look like it
was a dirty slight slides? In head first obviously. No,
the throw is a little bit high, a little bit
to the side. It looks awkward and holds him on
the base, right, Yeah, so it was awkward. Everything is fine, Okay,
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it looks like it was fine. You and I say, yeah,
it looked like it was just him coming down badly, okay.
And I look up and I see Dave Roberts with
his fist in the air, and I go, no, blanke
and way did we blanke and miss it? And we
missed it live because I looked up. He had just
gotten the strikeout and he was coming off, and I
see Dave Roberts with his fist in the area. Go,
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that is a Clayton Kershaw three thousand strikeout fist. And
I kept saying, watch it. You may never see it again.
And we missed it live because we were looking at
Max Munsey's injury.
Speaker 4 (04:40):
We were concerned about whether he had a dislocated knee,
broken leg, whatever it might be, because we didn't get a
replay out on the broadcast. One eye up at the
screen and then looking back and catching the replay again.
And this was Kershaw working quickly as he got to
the hundredth pitch, and a willing victim. Uh in capra.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
I mean that's gonna be my memory of what I
guess it's better it's it actually is a unique memory
that it's not just yeah, you remember Kershaw's last three
thousand striking?
Speaker 4 (05:10):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (05:10):
Yeah, No, No, it's like, oh do you remember Kersharw's
three thousand strike up?
Speaker 3 (05:13):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (05:13):
I remember?
Speaker 1 (05:13):
Because oh yeah, because Harton and I were looking at
Max months as well.
Speaker 4 (05:17):
We were doing the job in between doing the job right,
because we were gonna come back and regardless of what
what transpired, we were still gonna be talking about the
months he play for the duration. Now, should we have
just said push it aside and get to the moment. Well,
if they had been a pop up the left field,
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well we would have missed. We would have still been
trying to analyze what happened on that slide. So in
the end, yeah, we suck. I can't believe I missed it,
and I'm gonna and I already got a couple of
texts of why are you not at the game the
whole thing, because it's my job.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
It's not well, well it's also it's not one of
your pitchers.
Speaker 4 (05:54):
You know, it's not white no, but it's still my team,
and normally I go see my team when they come
to town.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
I can see someone have history against Mike. That's like
going to a game to see the Washington Generals play,
like you know.
Speaker 4 (06:05):
Well, but at this point, I mean they they they're
still up for two.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
Yeah, no, okay, I get it, but I mean, really,
it's not like it's it's history that's gonna happen against you.
I can be okay with not seeing that.
Speaker 4 (06:16):
Well, but I also thought, I mean, from my it's
wait for it, wait for it journalist. I'm sorry guys
that do that, but I'd be eminently.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
Okay if Tyre's Halliburton's long three bounced up and not
back through the hoop and the choking motion in game one,
even though it's historical, I'd been more than okay for
that to not happen.
Speaker 4 (06:38):
No, I get that, But if you traveled there, I
spent a lot of money to see it, then you
would have been even I just did.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
My my my memory. What's your memory of clayt kershows
three thousand strikeout. It's looking at the television and seeing
Dave Roberts with his fist in the air.
Speaker 4 (06:51):
Yeah, and it's Harmon and I battling on his iPad
trying to see if we could really ascertain was it
a shoulder into the knee? Was it that?
Speaker 3 (06:59):
Hell?
Speaker 4 (07:00):
What was going on? And then we've got Dave Roberts
with the fist in the air.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
A quick second, for a millisecond, in my head, it
was is he trying to tell everybody that Munzie's okay? Like, Hey,
Munsey's okay. We just chalked about him, you know, Munsey's
all right, Yeah, he's okay.
Speaker 4 (07:18):
I mean, I can't believe that we missed it for that.
I can't believe for as much as we've been talking
about celebrating and basking in the moment and how much
we love kershaw right, because this is the guy and
Frostberger and I were talking about this, and it's something
we've talked about a lot on air, is Dave Roberts
has had his back right every time, because we look,
how many years ago was it we were talking about
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the bacchiotomy and how many starts we were going to
get to celebrate this guy. How many way was he
gonna fall short of all these milestones because his body
was going to fail, so every fifth day when he
took the hill and when he even when he missed time.
It's like the anticipation of him getting back on the
mound was I don't know to the degree that you know,
(08:01):
golf fans, hey, is Tiger Woods getting get back out there,
and he's gonna be able to go best?
Speaker 5 (08:06):
You know?
Speaker 4 (08:06):
Day two? Is he gonna make a cut for Clayton Kershaw?
It's all right, look at all these big things that
are still out there for him. Is he going to
be able to get there? Will he still have the
physicality and the ability to go through the rehabs and
to do it and to see that moment. Yeah, I
didn't get to see Capra called out immediately, but then
we saw him arguing with the umpire, and then we
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saw these six to eight minutes thereafter of Kershaw, the relief,
the excitement, that smile from ear to ear. You know,
Matthew Stafford somewhere is smiling.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
You know they went to school together. Really yeah, I
don't you know that when people they talked about that.
Speaker 4 (08:41):
You know what, I also got a bunch of people
that decided they were gonna bombard me with the picture
with the pictures from when they were younger, because they
were playing on the White Sox and they're wearing White
Sox jerseys. And also, if you know this, but Ryan
Fitzpatrick he went to Harvard.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
Oh you know that? Yeah, yeah, yeah, Jeff Fisher was
on the NFL's competition. To do this to me, that's
an overload. Tell you, I can't take all this telling
you things that no one talked about. My dad's gonna explode.
You should know. You should know all the things I
was trying to forget. Boy, it would have been great
if Kapper got just really mad and started arguing about
absolutely getting into the umpire's face and getting it. If
animal comes.
Speaker 4 (09:14):
Running out and all of a sudden, you got a
Donnie Brooke at home plate.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
He could have had a fist fight with the home
Plate umpire and it wouldn't matter. The cameras are still
gonna go. And there's Clayton Kershaw waving to the crowd.
Oh well, there's a fist fight going on behind them.
Oh someone's pulled out a knife. This could get really
ugly fast. But look at Kershaw strikeout number three thousand.
Speaker 4 (09:33):
Do you think we got Do you think we got
a decibel level for that crowd, because when we were
replaying right and then replaying the Kershaw moment, that might
be the loudest. I mean, if you could bottle it.
It's like the streams and monsters ink. Oh you get
a bottle that you get a fuel the city. And
now you talked about now to get past us?
Speaker 1 (09:54):
What I gut. I still can't believe we bleep and
missed it, but we were doing our jump for Clay
and Kershaw. Right, this is strikeout number three thousand. This
is really the last milestone. This is the last personal
milestone that he would stick around for, right, because he's
not getting the three hundred wins. He's eight, you know,
at thirty he can barely.
Speaker 4 (10:16):
Seventeen.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
Right, you get to you get to three thousand, there's
no other He's not gonna win another Cy Young Award. Uh.
He's still pitching effectively, but this is the last thing
that is going to spur him on and say, okay,
now how much do I want to keep playing? Right?
You wonder how many more starts do we see Kenny
stay healthy? Will he state? You know? This year? I mean,
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obviously the Dodgers are hitting an unprecedented time where They're
the best team in Major League Baseball, right, best record
in baseball. Otani is still thirty years old and they're
moving on. So I get, you know, hey, the desire
to stick around to continue to win. But at the
same time, Dodgers pitchers start getting healthy and coming back.
These are guys getting paid a lot of money that
are part of the future. Like, I wonder how much
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of the my point and this is how much of
the three thousand strikeout was what Clayton Kershaw kept wanting
to come back for.
Speaker 4 (11:10):
Right.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
I guess see team things obviously want to come back
and win, but you have to understand that you're not
gonna be that number one starter up right, there's other
guys out there that they're paying more money that they signed.
You were supposed to be a depth guy this year.
Is hey, whatever we get from you, you don't pitch the
middle of the season, it's fine, But I wonder, like,
how like is this is this where Kershaw says, I
won a couple of World Series. I've done it. I
(11:31):
got to three thousand strikeouts. This season's gonna be it
for me. I've gotten to the b I've won, I've
gone to a big team guy, I can see that
as time goes on, I'm just gonna be, you know,
pushed a little bit more to the background, a little
bit more to the background. And again, you don't know
how injuries are gonna go when Dodger starting pitchers always
get hurt. But I wonder if this okay I want
It's not just the main thing for him to come
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on for. But okay, here we are again not you know,
depending how the season ends for the Dodge could win
another World Series. They might not. It might be Okay,
I got here, I stayed through three thousand strikeouts, even
this game, maybe telling me about my baseball mortality, because yes,
in the game, I got three thousand strikeouts. The White
Sox knocked me around the park from the top of
the first inning. They were on me hard. They were
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hitting the ball hard. Even outs were hard, hit line dry,
one hundred mile an hour outs. I wonder if this
is the season where now we say, Okay, I got there,
I did it. I get through one more playoff year
and now I'm done.
Speaker 4 (12:27):
Yeah, I'm curious. Right, eight starts before tonight, four to
zero record and ERA just above a three. Like we
talked about the strikeouts don't come in big waves like
they used to. Twenty nine in the thirty eight innings
before tonight, and he got to three. So we get
to the milestone. But the one thing I think that's
really going to stand out for him is that you
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still have all those questions of playoffs gone by, and
he didn't get to participate in the fun yet last year. Right,
so they win the World Series. There's a guy, what
you're eighteen lighter here, and it's only the third or
fourth time this has been done in baseball history where
you collected all three thousand strikeouts with the same team.
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I think it's Bob Gibson and then somewhat a century ago.
I think those are the only two instances in all
the giant notes that were floating around about the historic
nature of this that it's Walter Johnson. So there you go.
So if he's still able to deal at all, whether
he has to take a fifth starter, roll six starter,
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roll show up as a long reliever, this guy wants
to be along for the playoff ride, that's it, and
then all bets are off. Right, if he's still feeling good,
I can't imagine he just taps out. But certainly with
a world series win. Yeah, you can have your l
way moment. Your body's battered, bruised, I take my title
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and I walk off. But you know that's the old
story of all right, Well, how you feel in October
ain't the same way you feel in February when it's
time to report. Right, uh so, curiosity, but certainly one
hell of a ride. And I'm glad he didn't give
up on himself that Dave Roberts, his wife whoever else
was in his ear chirping at him the last couple
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of years, because there are plenty of times where it
looked like we might have seen the last of them.
So for us to get that three thousand strikeout when
we saw it on the replay, I can't.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
Believe that is about as good as it gets. Fresher
swelling Harmon. I mean, I'm gonna be mad on myself
for the rest of my life.
Speaker 4 (14:38):
Yeah, but you got a story, Donty, And we showed
concern for Max Buntency.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
Yeah, that's that is true. We did.
Speaker 4 (14:44):
We did. We were journalists in that moment with a
lowercase jay who'll.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
Keep following Clayton Kershaw's night but coming up next Rick
Buker stops by all the latest on NBA free agency.
What moves is he like the most? Is Mike Brown
going to get the Knicks to the NBA five and more? Nope,
keep it here, Jason and Mike Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
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Speaker 1 (15:16):
Fox Sports Radio. The Jason Smith Show with My best
friend Mike Harmon. Yeah, and speaking of miss murder, Yes,
Mike and I missed Clayton Kershaw strikeout number three thousand
because we were watching a replay of the Maxim Monthsy injury.
Speaker 4 (15:32):
I already called for Nolan Aronatto for.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
The last week. I said, hey, watch this, you may
never see again. You may never see that in your lifetime,
in any of our lifetimes. And instead, because Moncey just
got hurt, we were watching it and I looked up,
Hey did he just get it?
Speaker 4 (15:46):
Come on, man, come on. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
So history for Clayton Kershaw will have more on that
coming up in a few minutes. Dodgers trail the White
Sox now four to two in the eighth inning. But
let today also be known as the day the Knicks
found their head coach. And we continued on with crazy
stuff and free agency. Joining us now, I'm the hotline
to break it all down. Fox Sports one NBA Insider extraordinaire.
(16:12):
Check out the Amabile Podcast, which is now remade and
re recorded. He's got a new version out there. It's
two hours and forty seven minutes of Mike Brown's offensive
end defensive philosophy. Rick Buker joins us. Now, Rick, I'm
about an hour and forty five minutes in. It's a
great podcast so far.
Speaker 3 (16:32):
Thanks you very much. And if you're an hour and
forty five minutes in, you what'd you say? Two hours
forty seven minutes? Yes, our forty five minutes and you
have another hour of defensive talk and then there will
be two minutes of offense at the end.
Speaker 4 (16:52):
Yeah, right right, Well played.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
I had a fun line, but I wasn't gonna top that.
Can't hot that very nuts? Two minutes of offense at
the end.
Speaker 3 (17:04):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (17:04):
Now, look, can we.
Speaker 3 (17:06):
Talk about can we talk about the moon Man? We
got to talk about the moon Man.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
I mean, Rick, that's a walk off moment, man, that's like,
that's like Michael Jordan hitting his shot against the Jazz
and and and going doesn't get any better. Balker, all right,
so so so so let's let's get Mike Brown here.
Look when the Knicks fired TIBs on June third, I said,
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Mike Brown's the guy. He checks all the boxes, anti TIBs,
defensive philosophy, try to get the most out of Brunson
and Karl Anthony Towns. We're gonna, unfortunately, be sharing the
court a lot defensively. I don't know who else anybody
wanted the Knicks to get. I mean, it's not it's
not like they were able to talk to Jason Kidd
or any of these other coaches. Man, Mike Brown, I
(17:53):
thought was a choice in the beginning. Where are you
on it?
Speaker 3 (17:55):
Well, they I know that they wanted a shot at
Jason Kidd. If I was going to give you their
their their priority list, their preferential list, Jason would would
have been at the top of it. Mike Brown's name
did come up very early on, and uh, and I
would and I believe largely because as you said, he
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was the anti Tips and the feeling was that, you know,
in looking at everything that happened in Sacramento. His being
letting let go was a mistake by the Kings as
far as his ability to get along with one dearon
Fox and to get the most out of him, and
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so anything that the Knicks are going to do UH,
it starts starting ends with the relationship between the coach
and UH and Jalen Brunson. So I think that they
thought that that was a reason to have him. But
Kidd also has quite a track record in terms of
working with point guards, having been a point guard himself.
So my big gets concerned with Mike is his ability
(19:03):
to handle New York, the pressures of New York, the
cynicism of New York. The last time he was in
a big market was in LA that was very short lived,
and LA then the pressure. While there's certainly a microscope
on the Lakers and everything that happens with them, it
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doesn't compare to the media and everything else that goes
on in New York. So that's my that's my greatest
concern if I'm looking at the potential candidates out there, Yeah,
he's as good as they could do with guys that
didn't didn't already have a job. This all would play
(19:47):
a lot different if we hadn't heard all the reports
of them trying to interview guys, incumbent guys who already
had jobs, and then you come back to, oh, well,
I guess we can't get any of those, or we
can't any interview any of them, so let's get Mike Brown.
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Its just it feels like a Constellation prize and I
don't know that it needed to if they had just
approached it a different way.
Speaker 4 (20:16):
Jason, how do you feel now, I did any of
your fears?
Speaker 1 (20:20):
I feel like this Rick, I said, the Knicks went
from they're a big destination to that ridiculous. Hey, now
we look like nobody wants the job. Because if all
any of those coaches had to say was I want
to talk to the Knicks and they're not going back
to that team, and the Knicks are going to hire
that guy, but none of them said yes, so they
wind up looking bad and now, hey, now we got
to go to the next group of guys. But I
(20:42):
think enough time went by. They talked to the right people.
They hired the guy who was high on their list
for a while. Who can come in here, and look,
you can only hire who's available. Like, I mean, I
don't know who else. I mean again, if you don't
like it, I understand, But I mean, you know, Mike
Krzyzewsky's not walking through that door. You know, I mean
Phil Jackson two thousand and five is not walking through
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that door. I don't know who else. Anybody wanted.
Speaker 3 (21:06):
Take perfect sense, but that's not how they approached it.
Speaker 1 (21:11):
Like this is why I was a very consultant.
Speaker 6 (21:13):
Unbelievably reasonable of you. But that is they were like,
who's got a job? Oh, can we hire them? Like
it was it was back backwards. I've seen I've seen
job approaches. I've seen hiring processes on LinkedIn that were
better than what the nick.
Speaker 1 (21:38):
That's what hey, it says people you might know, Wow,
Quinn Snyder, let's go.
Speaker 4 (21:44):
I had Edinar and Arrow on mine today.
Speaker 3 (21:48):
It was crazy. It was it was like they didn't
have it was like they didn't have an updated list
of coaches in the league. They just had names.
Speaker 6 (21:57):
Hey, Quinn's a good coach, let's go see if he's available.
Speaker 4 (22:00):
I just not gold have been fun to try to
force some trades.
Speaker 3 (22:03):
Are you working for somebody? Okay? Well who else? Who else?
Can we can we go and try to get who
who Chris Finch. Well, let's see what is he? He's
a good coach? Oh what he he's got a job too.
Like it was just I don't know what.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
Hey, Leon Rose, you know what I just saw? Apparently
this guy named woulden't won like fifty national championships with UCLA.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
Let's call him?
Speaker 3 (22:34):
Hey, have you guys Phil Jackson? But maybe we should
seeing is he like somebody have his address in Montana?
I mean it was like they didn't have Google or
something like.
Speaker 4 (22:44):
Now, if they'd send someone out on a mission to
find Phil Jackson, that would have been something. I would
have looked for him locally at Uncle Bill's pancake house,
and if he wasn't there, then we would have had
to expand the search. Rick Buker, our guest that fast
one Beyond the Ball podcast Where Are You Here? He's
with us each and every week on the program, giving
his NBA brilliance and maybe taking a swipe at Smith
(23:09):
now and again. So in that vein, let's continue, Let's
go to the to Milwaukee.
Speaker 7 (23:14):
Damian Lillar, you go ahead, Rick, before you proceed, with
which tea you enjoy more?
Speaker 4 (23:21):
Oh, it's It's tough because I like watching his eyes
get really wide because you could see, wow, that's he's
jealous of the one liner at times, like I could
see it. He goes, oh, I didn't think he'd make
that connection, Like, ah, there it is. So he got
me and he cut me to the quick.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
In the last two minutes on defense. I don't remember
that one. No, that is that we got to cut
and prove that one. I'm like the Kobe of remembering
one liners that I'm like, Okay, I should have had that.
I should have said that, I'm the Kobe remembering that.
Speaker 4 (23:49):
Yeah, you were Karl Anthony Towns. You played no defense
on that, so well, I had to do it. So
Milwaukee one hundred and twelve million from Damian Lillard now
gets to go pick where he wants to go, good, bad,
ugly with Giannis. Does he still want to be a
Milwaukee Buck after Miles Turner shows up.
Speaker 3 (24:08):
No, as wild as it wild as it was, it
makes it makes a lot of sense. And I think
if they you know, it's just a matter of explaining
it to be honest, because.
Speaker 7 (24:19):
They couldn't have really improved this team unless they moved
Damien or by waiving him and then extending the payout.
Speaker 3 (24:29):
He's going to get all his money, but he's going
to get it out. He's going to get it over
five years. So it's going to hamstering them a little
bit over the course of the next five years in
terms of it's going to be on their on their
salary cap long after he's playing. But it did give
them flexibility to go sign a Miles Turner and to
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do some things because now he counts less against the cap,
far less against the cap this particular season. So if
they go to be honest and say, hey, look, we're
allowed Damian's not going to play for us right He's
not going to play for us again, and we're going
to give him an opportunity to go rehab wherever he wants.
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We're going to give him the opportunity to choose where
he plays next. And meanwhile, we're going to put a team.
We're going to have a chance to build a more
competitive team around you. Right now, from everything that I know,
that message has been delivered and it has been received,
and Gianni's is good with it. He understands why they're
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doing what they're doing, and there's some good will here
that's earned by a team when they do a player
a solid as they're doing with Damian Lillard. I mean
there really a lot of people looked at it and
waving him, you know how outrageous or whatever they're Actually
they're doing him a big favor. And when you do
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that for a for a player, a superstar or any player,
that resonates. And so it's not only say from everything
I know created goodwill with Giannis, it also sends a
message to the rest of the league that the Milwaukee
Bucks handled difficult situations in the right way.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
Rick Buker our guest Jason Smith Mike Carmon live from
the Fox Sports Radio studios. Okay, so Jannis is okay
with where things sit right now, which means Doc Rivers
is breathing a CIYGHB relief. Now, the other big move today,
the other big news today, the Lakers go out and
get DeAndre eight. And we thought this was happening when
we knew he was going to be let go. Now
the guys had issues, but clearly twenty six years old,
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he's someone that could help the Lakers. However, I kind
of feel at this point, Rick, right now, where we
are with how the Lakers, the moves they are making
and not making a we don't have a lot of money.
We gotta get a lottery ticket. DeAndre Ayton. I feel
like the Lakers are daring Lebron James to ask for
a trade. I feel like they're daring him to say, yo, okay,
this is not dovetailing. I want out, and then they'll
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they'll try to accommodate him. They can't go the other
way because obviously with no trade and it looks bad.
But I feel like they're daring him right now to
ask for a trade so they could do it.
Speaker 3 (27:13):
I am pretty confident in believing that if Lebron asked
for a trade or they could find it for whatever reason,
they could find a way to get his fifty two
million off of their books, they would happily do that.
At this point. It's just it's where it is, and
(27:33):
I would not So they lost Dorian Finney Smith, they
signed DeAndre eight, and I would not. For where they
are and what they're trying to build. I wouldn't give
up Dorian Finney Smith for DeAndrea eight, not now and
maybe not ever. In terms of what they're capable of doing.
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I think DeAndre eight and is going to give them
numbers being a former number one pick look good, but
they he does not give you the effort that you
need on the defensive end. And I learned my lessons
from mister Yusuf Nurkic, who I thought, you know what,
when he goes to Phoenix, he's going to realize, this
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is what I need to do in order for us
to win. And it's not about offense, it's about defense.
And I was proved wrong. And so I don't expect
some transformation from DeAndre Ayton as a Laker, even though
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that's exactly what they need. They need him to be
the closest version to Anthony Davis that he can possibly provide,
and I have no expectation that he's going to give
that to him, And I would Lebron James Is if
he remains a Laker and he's playing with DeAndre Ayton,
I assure you that whatever remaining hair he has left,
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he is going to be pulled it out a company.
Speaker 4 (29:02):
He's gonna be stuck in traffic and not making a
game or something. All right, Rick, last one for you
real quick taking taking a couple of those early trades
away waiting on what was next.
Speaker 3 (29:13):
I know what it is. You know, rather than bringing
a glass of wine to the to the bench, he's
gonna be bringing the whole bottle.
Speaker 4 (29:19):
He's got a magnum the sideline. I like that, and
a big straw like he's a super super big gulp.
Last one for you. What's your your favorite move thus far?
What moved the needle for you?
Speaker 3 (29:33):
Man? I love what the Denver Nuggets have done in
terms of trading Michael Porter Junior and getting Cam Johnson,
bringing back Bruce Brown. I don't know what he's got
left as far as a player is concerned, but they
got him on a minimum and uh and and he
was a great locker room presence. Am Johnson is going
to play two ways. Uh. He's going to give you
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defense and offense. I don't know that he's the pure
shooter that that Michael Porter Junior is, but the the vibe,
the body language, everything about PJ was such a negative.
Getting a guy as hungry as I think Cam Johnson
is and adding him to a team. I mean, honestly,
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this is what happens when you're when you're head coach
and your GM are on the same page. As opposed
to what was happening with Mike Malone and Calvin Booth
for the Nuggets. And I can't help but looking at
how quickly they made these moves, how close they came
under David Adelman, to actually getting to the to the
finals and possibly winning a ring, that that they that
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they that they didn't blow one already, that they that
they should have a couple of rings rather than just one.
But with these moves, Okay, see, I like the move
that Houston has made Denver. Those those three teams have
moved to the top of the Western Conference and and
I put them on an even plane.
Speaker 1 (31:02):
Right now, he's on Twitter at Rick Buker, that is
at Rick Buker f S one on the Ball podcast
looking for acomp for Cooper Flag. What Nicks cuts do
you use?
Speaker 5 (31:14):
Rick?
Speaker 1 (31:14):
Which one? Is it a combo of like Starks and
Ewing and Bernard King?
Speaker 3 (31:18):
Like?
Speaker 1 (31:19):
Is that where you're going?
Speaker 3 (31:23):
That's where I started, That's not where I ended up?
Speaker 4 (31:25):
Okay, all right, very good, very good.
Speaker 1 (31:26):
I kind of like, okay, I'll wait at this offense.
It will be the last two minutes of the podcast.
Speaker 4 (31:34):
I'll wait for that. All right, Well done, be great,
buddy before Rick, We'll talk to you.
Speaker 1 (31:43):
Unbelievable visit from the best on Lebron, on the Nuggets,
amazing stuff.
Speaker 4 (31:49):
We'll make it fun of the knicks that happened. Mike
john Mike Mike, Mike Brown. You canna say, Mike Breen bang,
I'm not retiring. Yeah, I jumped ahead. Don't jump to Shark.
Speaker 1 (32:00):
Time out to find out what's trending in the wide
world of sports. From Martin Wise m w F for US.
Speaker 8 (32:06):
Clinton Kershaw Dodgers starting pitcher, the twentieth pitcher today, twentieth
pitcher with three thousand strikeouts. He got his three thousands
today to end the sixth inning in what is now
a four to two game in the top of the
ninth at Chicago White Sox in the lead over the Dodgers,
who Kershaw joins Walter Johnson and Bob Gibson as the
three pitchers to do it exclusively with one club. I
(32:29):
swearing Major League Baseball the Dodgers now, I mean sorry
that Blue Jays now tied for first in the Al
East after beating the Yankees eleven and nine.
Speaker 5 (32:36):
Toronto's won three straight.
Speaker 8 (32:37):
Aaron Judge hit home run number thirty one and the loss,
jose L. Twovey moved in a second place on the
all time Astros hit list. Houston beat Colorado five to three.
The Mets snap Day four game losings for splitting a
doubleheader against the Brewers. The Padres and Phillies also split
a doubleheader, so Philly has a two game lead in
the NL East to the US men's national team Gold
(32:59):
advances in the Gold Cup after a two to one
win over Guatemala Diego Luna with both goals one baseball game.
Still are two baseball games still going right now? I
told you the sohit Sox and Dodgers the Giants and
Arizona Diamondbacks in extra inning. San Francisco leads six to
five in the tenth. In the NBA, the Knicks have
hired Mike Brown to be their new head coach.
Speaker 5 (33:19):
Laker is expected to sign DeAndre eight into a two
year deal.
Speaker 8 (33:23):
The Memphis Grizzly say they will evaluate Jaron Jackson Junior's
toe in about twelve weeks, and a report from the
Athletic says that this Kevin Durant trade from the Suns
to the Houston Rockets may be expanded to include up
to seventeams.
Speaker 5 (33:38):
You know, it's how they do it in the NBA.
Speaker 8 (33:40):
The deal has been agreed upon a principle, but until
it's all signed on the dotted line, it's not officially done.
Speaker 5 (33:47):
So no major changes in terms of like.
Speaker 8 (33:49):
Jalen Green and Dylan Brooks still going to Phoenix, Kevin
Durant still going to Houston. But I imagine not reporting this.
That's Phoenix trying to figure out how can I get
some draft picks back back to you guys.
Speaker 1 (34:01):
Maybe some more teams. May you get to ten teams.
Let's keep going then let's get a third of the
league in you guys want a piece of this.
Speaker 4 (34:08):
Thanks, come on in.
Speaker 1 (34:10):
Coming up next, Clayton Kershaw, three thousand strikeouts. We'll have
more on that, but believe it or not, there's somebody
who actually had a better day than Kershaw. No, that's next.
Jason and Mike Fox Sports Radio. You're on it. You're
on a big run tonight, Tyshirt.
Speaker 2 (34:27):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
pm Pacific, Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 1 (34:35):
The Jason Smith Show with My best friend Mike Harmon.
Speaker 4 (34:38):
Fire fire of the Mantain.
Speaker 1 (34:43):
We'll have more on the historic night for Clayton Kershaw
coming up in about ten minutes. Strikeout number three thousand. Well,
believe it or not, there's a guy that had a
better day than Clayton Kershaw.
Speaker 3 (34:53):
Hugh Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 1 (34:54):
Uh, Diego Luna, not that Diego Luna gets the Old
States men's national team into the Gold Cup Final with
the brace in the first fifteen minutes to night's game
against guatam Oh sorry, two goals by a player and
they hold on to win a game that was a
little dicey. It wasn't like they dominated the entire game.
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But now here's the United States. All the drama of
Polisic and Robinson and all the players who were sitting
out and didn't want to come play, and all the
Canada coach going on. All my guys wanted to be here.
I don't know about anybody else all that. As bad
as things looked for the United States, I tell you
right now, Sometimes it takes a while for things to change.
(35:38):
Sometimes things change very quickly. The last two weeks have
been so huge for the US men's team in soccer.
I feel more optimistic about them than I have any
time in the last five years. Because what's happened is
Mauricio Pochettino has said, this is my team. I am
the identity, I make the decisions. Right what he's when
(35:59):
Polisic said he wanted to play a little bit, but
not play the whole thing, and Pochino says, I'm not
a mannequin, right, Like, what a great line that I
am not a mannequin. Uh. And he picked his guys
and it's a lot of B team players of MLS guys.
Look Diego lunas up and coming star. And look at
where the United States is at right now. They're back
in the Gold Cup final. They playing Mexico on Sunday
because Mexico just beat Honduras one nothing. And what has
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Pochattino done. He's unearthed a couple of stars over the
course of the past couple of weeks. Now and and
Luna who is young, and Tilman now we can't get
enough of and Freeze at keeper as well as he
played in the shootout. This has been the best time
because now these stars that have been really entitled for
the last few years, like like Polistic and those guys,
(36:43):
they've all been way too entire. They haven't accomplished anything,
but yet they're because they've been told they're they're they're
great generation in soccer. They haven't accomplished it that we
missed the World Cup, like they haven't done anything, and
there's been no buy in for the US men's national team.
But now Pochettino says, these are my guys, and if
you missed this tournament, you're saying, oh, man, I better
(37:05):
buy in or he's gonna leave me home. Because the
United States has gotten their identity. They are now tough again, resilient.
You can see how they back each other up, much
different than the normal US effort, which we get is hey,
they look great the first twelve minutes of the game,
and then the last seventy eight minutes. It's what the
hell is going on? So Poachatino has been able to
flip this in a span of two weeks. The team
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has an identity. It is tough. He's unearthed stars, so
now you better buy in. Like the United States soccer
is in the best spot it's been in five years,
and it's all because of how they've navigated the Gold
Cup the last two weeks.
Speaker 4 (37:37):
Yeah, not to say that today's game didn't have its
share of wartz right outshot pressured once we got past
the thirty thirty five minute mark. To your point, a
little bit of not necessarily parking the bus, but you
saw the aggressiveness come on them. They did have well
dual off sides, but either way a goal was disallowed
(37:59):
that kept the uh things at bay and ultimately you
write it out, but your your overall point, I think
is appropriate to talk about where we've been at. So thirsty.
I think that's the appropriate term to say here. Thirsty
for a winning team that any hint of it, or
any player that looked like they were going to emerge
(38:20):
to be a star. We crowned him. Yeah, Josie Aldador,
he was gonna be you know, he was gonna be
Bo Jackson running through people.
Speaker 1 (38:30):
We missed one world. You got hurt in the first
ten minutes of the first game, and he pulled his hamstring,
and he missed all the.
Speaker 4 (38:36):
Time he kept pulling his hamstring. You got the rain
of situation which played out like something you'd see on
a Lifetime Movie of the Week or or your local
ayso of parents battling with coaches and all of those
things and then star treatment of well, I can do
what I want. And we've seen that at every level.
You've all experienced it, whether it's on an athletic field
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or in your place of emplay. The rules of engagement
are different for star performers. So now you've got a
coach who comes in doesn't have the same baggage as
many coaches before him in terms of his relationships with
the hierarchy, because that's been one of the big things, right,
It's usually just been a battle of how much control
do I really have as opposed to the governing body,
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et cetera. This guy doesn't seem to care. No, it's
in it, it's his way, and you're either in or
you're out.
Speaker 1 (39:26):
But you got it. But you have to see the
results on the pitch, and you're seeing it now Like
the old Cup it would be I don't need to
buy it, no, but that's it. But now you've seen it, so.
Speaker 4 (39:34):
Yeah, now you get a little bit more of a
leash to say, Okay, these are the guys I'm running with,
and for everybody else, you either get on board or
you get left behind.
Speaker 1 (39:44):
Exit out bout a fresca exit swollen dome Coming up
next Clayton Kershaw's three thousand strikeout tonight, Could it end
with a win and a show? Heyo Tani Grant slam Boy.
That's coming up next. Right here, Jason and Mike, you
are listening to Fox Sports Radio.