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Speaker 2 (00:22):
Let's give this.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. Greetings and welcome in
side hour three The Jason Smith Show with my bass
friend Mike Harmon, Live from the Fox Sports Radio studios,
where we watched a stunning come back on Thursday Night football,
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the Shockins down fourteen points in the fourth quarter, come
back and beat the Bucks twenty nine to twenty eight.
They get a touchdown, They ridiculously go for two. Don't
get it? That is that how Rahie Morris starts. It's
his post game. Who wants asked me about going for two?
They go, we'll have stuff on that coming up, because
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that still is a stupid decision. They for two, don't
get it, get the ball back, get a touchdown, have
to go for two again, don't get it, get the
football back after an interception, and Kirk Cousins drives the
Falcons down. Despite all the penalties that the Falcons had tonight,
I believe they had seven to nineteen, nineteen one and
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twenty five yards and they still won the game.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
They gave up a full football field one hundred and
twenty five penalty yards to twenty five. Yeah, the bugs
and still had a fumble that's like almost a Canadian
football field with one hundred and twenty five two yards
in the end zone. Just amazing. You had the fumble
call on the John Robinson. Did he catch it? Did
he have possession? Did he make a football move that
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we could argue about? Like all of that and they
still walk off with a field goal to win it.
Zang Gonzalez makes the kick on the final play of
the game. The Falcons improved of five and nine, The
Buccaneers fall to seven and seven, and the Carolina Panthers,
who were minus fifty in the scoring column for points
four and points against, lead the NFC South. I mean,
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just that's just think about McMillan, Just think about that,
Bryce Young, Let's go every team in.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
The NFC South. Is is a deficit for for points,
score and points.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
Again, because I loved RC Cola as a child in Chicago.
Let's go, It's Rico and Cuba for the win.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
Now we've talked about guys who had big nights Night
Ran Kyle Pitts certainly gets a lot of attention to
first tight end with one hundred and fifty yards and
three touchdowns in a game since Shannon Sharp thirty some
odd years ago. And here's here's Cray. You want to
know crazy what Skip? I remember that game because I
had traded Shannon Sharp and Fantasy the week before that. Right,
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I want to say it was like week two or
week three of the NFL season. I haven't seen went
and it was yet it was like week two or
week three and Sharp was coming off the bad game.
I needed a running back, I think I trade. I
traded him for Oh boy, I traded him for for
running back Washington I forgot, but I traded him for
running BA because I needed one. And the next time,
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the next game he played, he had one hundred and
fifty yards and three touchdowns and I'm like, oh man,
that's the worst trade I've ever made. That's one week.
The next week I traded Okay, the guy needed tight
I needed a running back. I thought I was getting
the better end of the deal. I really did, And
I'm getting the better end of the dealer. This is fantastic.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
And uh yeah, and and he winds up going for
one hundred and fifty and three touchdowns.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:37):
I'm bringing up the game log from Shannon Sharp season.
Let's see he'd gone for well, I mean he did
have a nine for one sixty nine game the week
week prior.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
Yeah. Oh no, actually that's two weeks later.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
Yeah no, no, no, no, no, no, because it's one where
it's actually going up ye ladder. So what did you
do the week before? You see, the week before we
had a bad week right before was six for sixty
Yeah the score. Yeah, yeah, so I traded, I said, yeah, okay, yeah,
I need a running back. Yeah, sure, nine for one
thirty one the week prior to that, and then the
two weeks prior against the Buccaneers and Seahawks combined, had
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seven catches for seventy yards.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
Tell me who the number one running back was for
the Washington when there were the Redskins. Who was a
number one running back for the reds nineteen ninety six,
Stephen Davis? I want to say that's who I traded.
That's who I traded uh uh, Shannon Sharp for I
think it might be now, it might be a little
too early. I think that was his rookie year, Steven
Dead that was, and I think that was Stephen Dave
was getting punched on the sideline by Michael West. Remember that.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
Now your talk is on the sidelinet's see number one
for Washington.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
Terry Allen. Yes, that's exactly how Allen I trade. I traded.
I traded Shannon Sharp for Terry and Stephen Davis only
had twenty three attempts that year. Yeah, there you go. Trade.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
I tell you twenty one touchdowns, thirteen and fifty three yards.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
See. People say fantasy is useless. Look at I was
able to remember that because of that, because I traded
for Terry Allen. Yes, let's go back in the time machine.
Tell me the week Terry Allen had that. I bet
you had a great week the week before. Hold on
the week that I traded for him. I find that.
I guarantee you had a big week, maybe one hundred
yards in a touchdown or two. I guarantee you we
had that game. Looks, Terry, I love the dude. Do do.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
So let's see what what week was that again? Well,
every week Shannon a touchdown, multiple browsers going on here.
Oh okay, well you're the computer guy, come on, and
you like my own personal it guys. But to know
these things, yeah, normally I get to do it on
my leisure time or during a break.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
I've seen you buy packs of cards unopened faster. I'm
gonna buy it. I'm gonna buy that. I mean, I
buy stuff off of eBay really fast. Yeah, you're pretty fast,
buy cards really really fast as all right, So the
three touchdown game for Sharp, we're going back to the
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sixth of October.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
Okay, okay, tell Allen. Yeah, so then that would be
that it would be the week before, so Terry Allen,
I'm gonna say one hundred yards and two touchdowns Terry Allen.
So he had one hundred and one two touchdowns on
twenty carries added, uh two catches for one yard. Oh
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that's okay. Then the following week they had a bye week. Yeah,
then he plays New England, goes for twenty one seventy
one or twenty six seventy one and zero. Yeah. The
following week plays the Giants, where he goes for twenty
eight eighty nine and three.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
Yeah. The following week against the Colts.
Speaker 3 (06:49):
Yeah, three, yeah, yeah, he had a four game streak
with at least two touchdowns. I remember the trade was
great turn out, but the first week I said, oh,
this is why did I do?
Speaker 1 (06:59):
This is the thing? Ever?
Speaker 3 (07:00):
And I think the guy won just because he had
Channon Sharp have that incredible well for that week. Sure,
and I'm sure plenty if they had the guts because
he was a top ten play for fantasy purposes. This week,
we've talked about the tight end position a lot here
and then on the Eyewaancher Flex podcast of how inconsistent
it's been. Travis Kelce certainly one of those guys that
gets bandied about a ton Mark Andrews pops up on
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the radar now and again. But for Kyle Pitts, the wishing, wanting, hoping.
The last couple of weeks you'd seen receptions in yardage
and a bit of a rapport with Kirk Cousins, but
even against the siev like Tampa Bay secondary, you could
not have expected the heroics and the operating space that
he had with no Drake London on the field to
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really be as wide open as he was for those connections.
Eleven catches on twelve targets.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
Now you want to talk about somebody who's been having
a big week has potentially begun to turn the conversation
well in his favor for next year. Kirk Cousins tonight
for the Falcons, despite the fact he only threw to
a couple of guys right, which is which was Kyle
Pitts and Bjon Robinson thirty for forty four for three
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seventy three and three touchdowns, drives him down for the
game winning field goal. Had done enough. Cousins was done.
He was cooked. He was a backup quarterback. When there
was any potential interest in Kirk Cousins, he wasn't gonna
say goodbye to any money. Teams didn't want to give
up a lot for him. This was gonna be it
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like he was done as a starting quarterback, and it
was It was just going to be a case of
Kirk is going to sit here and back up Michael
Pennick Junior until he's done. Right, I'll get it one
of those break glass in case you know scenarios, but
it's after the deadline. So but now knowing that they're
still in on Michael Pennix Junior for next year, right,
even though he's been disappointing coming off the injury. They're
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gonna give another chance because look, you you decided to
go to the wall to overdraft Michael Pennick Junior. Okay,
Cousins if he finishes strong and he doesn't have to
throw for three seventy and three touchdowns every week, but
maybe being thirty seven, thirty eight years old when you
come off a really bad injury like Cousins is. Look
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at Aaron Rodgers the middle of last year, right, he
has the big Achilles tear for the for the Jets
his first year with them. He's terrible the first seven
eight weeks of last season, but then the last seven
eight weeks Aaron Rodgers played pretty well. That was too
late for the Jets because they were done. But Rogers
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wound up having a pretty good season. Right still, you know,
for touchdowns yards, he moved the Jets up and down
the field. He showed that with weapons, I could still
play a little bit. And what happened played his way
into a contract with the Steelers this year. Now, clearly
Rogers is done. This is it.
Speaker 3 (09:54):
He had a nice week last week, so likely he'll
get to finish on his feet this year before he retires.
You kind of could see the same thing with Kirk Cousins,
right has the big horrible injury, he's out all all year.
Takes him a while to come back, because when you're
coming back from an injury like he suffered, maybe need
more than that and need another half of a season.
But now here he is now fully and well more
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removed from that injury than he's ever been. And here
he is tonight. He is decisive, He was dynamic, He
moved the ball down the field. Yes, he didn't really
throw to his wide receivers at all, but still three
seventy three and three touchdowns is three seventy three and
three toimes.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
They betrayed him, right.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
If Sills made a great catch on the fourth and
fourth down play, fourth and fourteen inside the final minute
for twenty one yards and finishes with the solid stat night.
But if he walks in on that forty five yard
touchdown fast, well, now we're talking about a guy near
to one hundred yards for a game. Mooney wasn't much
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of a factor and you had no Drake London, but yeah,
certainly for captain Kirkin drove the ball downfield pretty well
when he needed to, and having the safety valve of
Jean Robinson always a nice little help.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
So now think about this. If Kirk Cousin shows you
down the stretch in this five game, in these last
five or so games, after needing a couple of games
to play well, if he plays well enough, he plays
his way into being a starting quarterback next year. Somewhere
in the NFL, go to a team needing a bridge,
maybe the right the old guy they want, guy's coming
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off Achilles tears, you'd have Kirk Cousins. You would have
Daniel Jones, like he has not played his way into
being a franchise guy. But like Aaron Rodgers, he will
have played his way into one more year, maybe as
a bridge quarterback, as a starter somewhere before it's really done,
and it would be going to last year of his deal.
Obviously he'd have to figure out money. But Kirk Cousins
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have to decide do I want to go someplace and
start for a year or do I want to continue
to back up Michael Pennick Junior here in Atlanta. Because
no matter what he does, he's going back behind Michael
Pennick Junior, so he is he will he can potentially
play his way into a starting quarterback bridge situation for
next year and finish his NFL career on his feet,
which is where you kind of want to. You don't
want to be wearing the puffy jacket in December on
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the road watching other quarterbacks play and you're just collecting
money to the end, right, He's gonna get his money anyway.
Maybe he's figured something else out, gives a little bit back,
figures out to buy it whatever it is. But he
is now figuring out his way onto the radar because
it's not a great crop of free agent quarterbacks again,
which it never really is. It's just happens to get to.
Speaker 3 (12:28):
A point where, well, maybe a Sam Darnold is there
because of a crazy circumstance, or you get an intriguing
guy out there that maybe you can turn into something
if Anthony Richardson has let go by the Colts, you know,
something like that. But mainly, you look at the crop
of quarterbacks coming in next year out of college, it's
not that great, and are all the guys like Friana
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Mendoz or Dante more or nuss Meyer. Are they all
gonna get starting jobs right away? Or are they gonna sit?
And maybe they sit for a whole year, Maybe they
sit for a long time, and Kirk Cousins keeps him
off the field because he's healthy again, Like he's played
his way into that starting conversation because of the free
agency weak crop and the weak crop a quarterbacks and drafts.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
Well on the latter.
Speaker 3 (13:09):
I mean, look, you've always been a If you draft
him in the first they got to play guys, So
that that could be a difficult proposition if some of
these teams are desperate enough. Now, it'll be funny if
we get to the first round of the draft and
suddenly teams say, you know what, we agree with everybody
in the outside world.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
This is not the great class.
Speaker 3 (13:27):
So let's wait till the second round and then we'll
pick our best from there. But for Kirk, he's currently
got two years left on this deals a lot of
dead cat money if you go away, Penni says, what
is this the third acl right, So how quickly is
he really coming back? Dollar cost averaging rookie deal plus
what their dead cap would be if you'll let Kirk
walk away, I say, to hell with you, you got to
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come back and be Captain Kirk out here, figure of
Drake London's healthy. You've uncorked what was once the most
promising tight end in the game in Kyle Pitts, and
you got Jon Robinson.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
Yeah, but remember, and I'm not saying I disagree with
that philosophy, it's just in reality, it's you see what
teams we drafted this guy in the first round. He
is going to play until we absolutely have to move.
We're not gonna We're not gonna yank him back out
put him back in.
Speaker 3 (14:14):
Oh I'm saying is I don't know that he's gonna
be healthy in time for the season now, So why
why go in hamstrung altogether? Because you gonna go grab
one of these practice squad gaps.
Speaker 1 (14:26):
But it's also him having to say, hey, I know
my value out there. I can get out there and
start somewhere, so I really want to go and okay,
that's well, that's what he wanted to do or have
to figure out. And now that it's it's you know,
two years left on the deal. If he's gonna get
all his money just for this year, and then it's
some kind of buy o it for next year. Look,
money can always be figured out. We say that all
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the time. Money can always be figured out. But he
has a chance to start again where he's given the job,
not just hey, we can trade for you and maybe
you can win a job.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
Maybe you can.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (14:57):
It's a little bit different when you know, oh, I
have a market out there for me. Now that just
I could be a fallback opportunity. Yeah, he's giving him
back one hundred percent of a much larger number.
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Speaker 5 (16:07):
M Welcome to Christmas from Jason. Do you think Christopher
Lee was a better Jedi or rockstar?
Speaker 6 (16:20):
Now?
Speaker 2 (16:21):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (16:21):
Man, oh, he was a bad Jedi.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
Man.
Speaker 1 (16:23):
He went to the dark side. He was bad. Much
better rock singer. Yeah, I'm waiting. I'm waiting for the
sleep token Christopher Lee. Mash up, you didn't even get that.
What about Bobby Lee or Sarah Ly You can get that.
You don't get that, right, always get some say, yeah,
did you really just go cookies?
Speaker 3 (16:43):
Nobody since you know the end of the aisle Cookies,
Sarah you would Nobody doesn't.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
Like uh am Amy Lee hasn't been relevant since their
first album what ah that? Yeah? You want a hot take?
What about Jamie Lee? Eis Jamie Lee Kurz, Well, she's
read every Halloween. Uh No, Anmily that first year Friday,
that first Evanessence album was incredible, and every Fnessence album
since is terrible. And she's got one of the greatest
(17:13):
rock and roll voices in the history of rock and roll.
I can't get over she sounds like her voice is
like if you lived in a dystopian society where you
had to worry about the rebellion and the underground to
fight against, uh, the tyranny that goes on, like she
would be the voice of the band. Everybody listens to
(17:34):
like her voice. It's it's incredible. But man, after that
first album, the music is just ooh boy, it's a
lot of filler, a lot of filler.
Speaker 3 (17:41):
Well, like a lot of the content these days, that's
all dystopian. Yeah, Hey, let's let's put you in this
world again, like I've been living in there for a decade.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
Give me something else, Give me something with some bright colors. Now,
give me some more. Jedis you want something bright colors? Hey,
I gotta know, Frostburg, when you sent this to me today,
was this a real thing like they're selling now? Frostburg
sends me a picture of somebody in like a target
or in a wall or somewhere where they're selling macaroni
and cheese flavored candy canes, Like, like, was that real?
(18:14):
Not only is it real, but you said you would
buy them out? Yes, dude, I can't. I'm not a
candy cane guy. I don't know which one's scarier. I'm
not a candy cane guy. Don't like candy canes. Not
a candy cane guy. Like, yeah, whatever, hang on the tree,
that's fine. But macaroni and cheese flavored candy canes, oh yeah, yeah, yeah,
I had to do.
Speaker 3 (18:30):
It was a quick search viral, so they're probably sold
out now. I wouldn't they are. I would even look them.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
I would just eat them like they're like like they
are really hard pasta shells and I'm just eating. What
if they were stuck to, like the subway, would you
take them off and eat them?
Speaker 2 (18:44):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (18:45):
Probably? Okay, I might not eat the side that was
stuck to the subway, but you would the other side.
Speaker 3 (18:49):
But the other side that I'm pulling them off, yeah,
hundred percent. Yes, I mean I'm not paying this rate.
I mean, what's a macaroni and cheese currently going to?
Like twenty five bucks? Because they went viral? But how
many do you get? Six you get six candy canes
for twenty five. The point is that it went viral,
so now it's a big deal. So you like, they're
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sold out on the Walmart site. What would you do
for a box?
Speaker 1 (19:13):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (19:13):
I don't know, man, that's what This is really a
bastardized version of the what would you do for the
Klondike bark?
Speaker 1 (19:20):
What would you do for a mecan? How many licks?
How many? Boy? I would Let's see, I got the
owl involved.
Speaker 3 (19:26):
We're leaving no pop culture of the seventies and eighties
on stone unturned?
Speaker 1 (19:31):
Like what would I do for what?
Speaker 4 (19:32):
Like?
Speaker 1 (19:32):
Because one I could always get at any time, But
what would I do for one? You would leave your
family if you could walk in and hand it to
me right now? Or a macaroni? Man, candy can you
would leave your family macaroni candy cane? Hey, maybe for
a day. I leave them for a day. I'd miss
I'd miss my family. I missed my Tell you what?
Because I like you? We're going to order a couple
of these? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (19:51):
Yeah, I found another distributor that was much cheaper.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
I'd break up with the Mets for a couple of
days for these macaroni candy canes. Oh yeah, it's a
little over a dollar a cane. We're going to order
them now.
Speaker 3 (20:02):
No wait no, wait, wait wait wait wait wait did
you did you found a candy I want to make
sure you found not a knockoff macaroni and cheese style
flavored candy canes where it's okay, okay, same thing, very good,
just not like some have a very cheesy Christmas macaroni
and cheese candy canes, particularly favorite of picky eaters.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
Tastes like your childhood favorite, not like, not like some
knockoff where these are regular candy canes that fell in
the dirt and people are waiting and selling them going
it looks orange. I can sell them as the.
Speaker 3 (20:31):
Masters six yellow and white candy canes, five and a
quarter inch tall, with cheesy flavoring.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
Okay, all right, with the instant.
Speaker 3 (20:39):
Mac and cheese they've got, evidently got all sorts of
other flavors. Here you have, let's see Pacific north West salmon. Oh,
I'm not having those Dante's Inferno salmon flavored candy San Palapago. Okay,
at least that's interesting. Salmon salmon Jenny Cane Catchick flavored
candy cake, and would you even I'm not quite sure
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what the possum best possum ones flavored?
Speaker 1 (21:03):
Are these really? He just making them up? No legit.
Speaker 3 (21:05):
I gotta think they're made in the North Pole. Yeah, buddy,
the elf is making them. How many just sketches you make? Now,
all of these work and makes sense. The only one
that's out of sorts is the possum. It could be
a delicacy in the South.
Speaker 1 (21:19):
I don't know. They're not real. I don't know that
those are actually real. How can you make a possum place?
Speaker 6 (21:24):
You know how?
Speaker 1 (21:24):
They're not real? How because Jason Haws zero of.
Speaker 3 (21:27):
Them seems like something he would have found a possum
flavored candy canes or these just candy canes that were
found by possums and they were taking And that's what
I'm buying.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
Like Larry, the possum found a whole bunch. He's a
special he's a really he's a really smart one that
can find candy canes. He's like those pigs that find
truffles in the in the hills of Paris. Yeah, possums
are terrifying because they move very slowly until they don't
Hey Larry, Hey, Larry, can you go go find me
some of those maca cheese candy canes? Go get him? Boy.
Speaker 3 (21:55):
So what you're saying is I should order these? No,
I mean, I mean I'm not ordering.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
The possible one. This is not a variety pack flavor
where it's okay, if it's if it's straight mac and
cheese candy canes, Okay, fine, let's order. Let's do it.
I'm glad you got them for cheaper. That's great. No,
it's good. How much was it like really cheap? Like
much cheaper?
Speaker 6 (22:16):
No?
Speaker 1 (22:16):
No, there's still over a dollar stick. Okay, all right,
I mean that's fine. It's sugar and free favor. We
could get the legit ones for twenty five bucks or
ones that purport to be the same exact ones for
six dollars. They're the exact same same.
Speaker 3 (22:31):
But like Walmart also has a thing though, like if
it's sold out, you can relist like on Amazon. Like
I could be someone that buys, like say, trading cards,
and then once I've purchased them, if the market has changed,
I can put them up for two to three times
and it still shows under the Amazon banner. Okay, all right,
same thing with Walmart. All right, okay, so the set
(22:53):
once it went viral, people bought them out at the
eight dollars or whatever it was. Okay, Jason, two for ten,
two for ten. Oh, it's really like you four for twenty. No, no, no, no,
come Bobby, it's no harm is taking care of me.
Here we got we got we got a dollar a stick.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (23:07):
I just gave you a deal that you can't refuse.
Speaker 3 (23:10):
I'm only thirty four dollars away from free domestic shipping.
They're Chargers colors, Frostburg. You should say and put them on,
you know, put them for decoration.
Speaker 1 (23:18):
What part of mac and cheese is charge of colors?
The yellow they're yellow and white. It is looking yellow yellow.
If you had, if you could get the blue at
like the possum flavor whatever that is the never blue mountain.
Speaker 3 (23:30):
I get a possome one. You want a possum one.
Blue is probably the possible flavor. You get the possum
flavor there. Bacon, Yeah, bacon sounds good too. Now, let's
not go crazy. This is not like roordering chocolate chip
cookies off of Missus Fields like let let let's just
you want to talk about overrated let's just start with
the mac and cheese once.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
Let's just do that first. Okay, now I'm about a
rubber chicken. Let's get rubber chicken flavor. It's no actual
rubber chick. Oh, just rubber chickens. Rubber chick because I've
eaten rubber chickens. It's kind of chewy checking. Uh. The
loss tonight by the Bucks twenty nine twenty eight to
a Falcons team you look done on the season, four
(24:08):
to nine. Their season's over. You won if they're going
to keep their head coach? What's happening?
Speaker 3 (24:12):
They blow a fourteen point fourth quarter lead at home
to lose twenty nine to twenty eight, give up control
of the NFC South to the suddenly formidable seven and
six Carolina Panthers. So you'd think that Bucks head coach
Todd Bowles wouldn't be in the best of moods following
the game, and you would be right. Here is Todd
Bowles talking.
Speaker 1 (24:32):
About the Bucks loss tonight to the Falcons.
Speaker 6 (24:39):
Enough you got care enough for it got something to you.
It's more than the job. How well do you know
your job? How well can you do your job? Well?
Speaker 2 (24:51):
You can't sugar coach pills in use a bull. Han,
it's Ford. That's for no excuse for it, and that's
what you're telling them a lot.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
Okay, wait, wait, wait, there's no way we needed all
of those. This is Todd bull, No, it was. There's
no way we need all those bleeps, every single one.
Speaker 3 (25:08):
Here.
Speaker 1 (25:09):
Let me tell you what he actually said. They're non
redat Jason.
Speaker 5 (25:12):
Yeah, if one of those weren't bleeped, Yeah, it'd be
merry for the rest of your career.
Speaker 1 (25:17):
Here, okay, it would be the last Alex Tischer show.
That's it, oky, Yeah, because I would throw you under
the bus stave. He doesn't want that. No, no, no, I
don't think Steve wants that. How many play it? Why
would I count the bleeps on that? Okay? How many?
Let let's play it again.
Speaker 6 (25:28):
He's an excuse me bo. If you don't make excuses,
you got one enough, two you got Karen.
Speaker 4 (25:38):
Got fun.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
It's more than a job. That was six? How well
do you know your job? How well can you do
your job?
Speaker 6 (25:45):
Well?
Speaker 2 (25:45):
You can't sugarcoat. He's a bull. Fine, that's for no
excuse for it. That's what you're telling them. A look ten?
Speaker 1 (25:55):
How long was that twenty seven seconds, so ten so
every two point seven seconds he threw out a curse
that you couldn't say on the radio. Lee Ilia had
a higher rate, Right, why do uh curses per second? Yeah?
But this audio is not from tonight. This is when
they asked him how he feels about the Jets? Yeah,
(26:16):
how did it feel coaching the Jets all those years ago? Now,
that would have been one straight bleep all the way through.
It would have sounded like a dial tone on a phone.
What do you think this is?
Speaker 3 (26:25):
Well, at least it broke up a little bit and
a little bit. This is this is awesome.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
Man, Oh that's fantastic. Do you have what he said?
Non reacta Bowles? Do you have what he said? Non redakta?
We'll find it. Well, I mean you said and then
censor yourself so we could hear what he said, like,
that's not that's not Todd Bowles, man, that's not the
Todd Bowles. And and well that's the Todd Bowles tonight,
Todd Bowles.
Speaker 3 (26:43):
That was really in twenty Maybe Jason just maybe he's
had too many macaroni and Sheese candy.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
Canes, or maybe that's what should have happened at the end.
The reporter should have said, Todd, you don't sound happy.
Would you like a macaroni and cheese candy cane? Here
you go?
Speaker 2 (26:58):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (26:59):
What is the What does the girl say to Jeffrey
Jones and and Farrispueler? Mister Rooney, do you want a
gummy bear? And they're warm? They've been in my pocket
all day? Do you want a happiness? Do you want
a happiness candy cane that tastes like macaroni and cheese?
Mister Bowles, do.
Speaker 3 (27:16):
You want that while you're in that big orange pullover,
Because you know, I think orange, I think of macaroni
and cheese.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
I was thinking about you to take this, you'll be happier.
Speaker 3 (27:23):
Yeah, But I mean we're talking about it as a
home game, Division game Thursday night, stand alone. Terrible team
coming in reeling, You're getting all your guys back, and
you give that up a two touchdown lead like that.
Here's a quick synopsis of you can't sugarcoat that blank
It was inex blanking cusable. Okay, hey, come on, that's
(27:49):
I mean, that's gold right there. That's as far as
the transcriptions have gotten. Everything else is just kind of
going whoa, Okay, cool Todd. Let's see message. You can't
sugarcoat it. That's the one that the money quote getting
out right. Now, let's see what else angry Todd Poles
through his player, Todd Bowles, through his players under the
(28:11):
bus coaches have done all they can do. They have
to hold themselves accountable. So a little bit of that, okay,
and then that goes into the cursing, everybody calling for
his uh, his head, and he may walk the plank
off that pirate ship is the thing, and.
Speaker 1 (28:26):
Some are just going.
Speaker 3 (28:27):
To the It appears that Todd Bowles is blanket and furious.
So taking a cue from his own comments and just saying,
all right, here's the best way to summarize it.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
That that really is at a Lee Ilia Tommy Lasorda
really close. Yeah, his blank and performance. It's blanket perform
like I mean.
Speaker 3 (28:45):
That that's one every two point seven seconds for twenty
six second.
Speaker 1 (28:49):
Now the sort of Lie Ilia in the stamina department.
You know, they have it over Todd Bowles because Todd
that was twenty six seconds, whereas Lee Ili and Tommy
Lasorda that was into the minute, couple of minutes.
Speaker 3 (28:59):
The other thing is you need to have Les Grobstein
there with his recorder otherwise we never get that. The
late great Grobber, who is the overnight god in Chicago
radio for all those years, he was the guy that
had that audio, so every year he can trot it
out going. Yeah, me and my antiquated equipment gave you
gold for forty years. Eighty five percent of the people
(29:20):
in Chicago have jobs. The other fifteen percent come out
here every day to watch games. Yeah, there's so many
other things, right, you had You had a Darnell Mooney
fumble that five guys were around, and somehow he gets
the ball back before that touchdown. By all of that
just an amazing convergence of events. You go todd balls,
(29:44):
you go seven f bombs. Time now to find out
what's trending in the wide world of sports. And someone
who's been called the Tommy Lesorda of Fox Sports Radio. Oh,
you don't want to ask him his opinion of Kingman's performance. Sure,
it's Steve di Seger.
Speaker 7 (30:00):
If Paul Olden asked that legendary question. Yeah, it was
also Tommy Lasori was sick. Garvey Garvey couldn't hit water,
you know, and he went on about because he was
in a slump. By the way, this was you broke
it down mathematically, every three seconds, something had to be
bleeped there every three on average. That was about what
(30:21):
their running game was doing three yards per Carrie tonight,
except for the one Rashad White. But aside from that,
it was coach Bowl saying it's inexcusable. We don't make excuses.
You got to care enough where this hurts. It's got
to mean something to you. It's more than a job.
It's your livelihood. How well do you know your job?
(30:42):
End quote? Atlanta at four and nine coming in gets
a field goal on the final play to win at
Tampa Bay twenty nine, twenty eight, and Atlanta was down
twenty eight to fourteen with ten minutes left, so Associated
Press looked it up. The Falcons record when trailing by
at least four fourteen points in the fourth quarter before tonight,
(31:03):
they were winless in their last one hundred and thirty
nine games playoffs included, until the late comeback tonight. The
last such comeback win in Atlanta history was nineteen ninety three.
The Bucks, conversely, had a record of one twenty four
and one since the early nineties when leading by at
(31:23):
least fourteen points in the fourth quarter, they gaged this game.
Baker Mayfield was sacked five times, two touchdowns, one interception,
Kyle Pitts boy on a fantasy playoff weekend, three touchdown receptions.
He had eleven catches one hundred and sixty six yards.
No tight end had previously hit all three of those
(31:44):
marts in the same game. And in fact, this so
called tight end was either out wide or in the
slot for eight different targets, and he caught all eight
of those and all three touchdowns in those situations we
mentioned last hour. It had been very rare to even
have a tight end with three touchdowns and at least
one hundred and fifty yards receiving in the same game.
(32:07):
In fact, it had happened once since the early eighties,
and that was the Shannon Sharp game nineteen ninety six.
Speaker 1 (32:13):
Steve, I'm gonna tell you this without knowing, but I'm
on a heater right now. The game the Bucks lost,
blowing that lead, I bet you that was two thousand
against the Jets. When Curtis Martin threw a touchdown to
Wayne Corbett in the final minute, the Jets were down
by two touchdowns in the fourth quarter, and they scored
a touchdown. They got the ball back and Curtis Martin
(32:34):
threw a touchdown to Corbett and the Jets won that game.
I bet you that's the game.
Speaker 7 (32:38):
It happened against Peyton Manning two thousand and three.
Speaker 1 (32:41):
Ooh, no, I'm right, You're wrong. Stop. No, I'm right.
Speaker 7 (32:44):
They might have been down, but not fourteen or more.
Speaker 3 (32:47):
They did score fifteen points in the fourth quarter to
take a twenty one seventeen victory Jets against the Bucks.
Speaker 7 (32:53):
On the positive side, Mike Evans did play.
Speaker 1 (32:56):
Yeah, he was also not happy at the end of
the game while watching the Jazala Sield goal. A lot
of high knees for him at the end.
Speaker 7 (33:03):
I mean, can we say out loud the Carolina Panthers
are in the driver's seat for the four seed. Yes,
the vision title canallis yo, but it's going on here.
The Bucks seven and seven, now losing record at home.
Wide receiver Mike Evans, who'd been out since October after
a broken collar bone, did have six catches one hundred
thirty two yards. The NBA's late game went to Denver,
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dominating at Sacramento one thirty six to one oh five
in limited minutes. Nicola Jokic had thirty six points victories
for Milwaukee and Houston at home New Orleans as well.
Pelicans ended a seven game losing streak, ripping Portland one
forty three to one. Twenty NHL wins for Colorado and Boston,
and the Braves signed former Padres closer Robert Swarez back
to you.
Speaker 1 (33:45):
Thank you, Steve. Though Jason Smith Mike Harmon live from
the Fox Sports Radio seaed is, we got more on
this crazy Thursday night game coming up in a bit,
but straight ahead, what people aren't understanding about the biggest
story in sports the last twenty four hours. That's next. Jason.
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
(34:05):
pm Pacific.
Speaker 3 (34:07):
Fox Sports Radio. It's a very metal Christmas. So we
got more on Thursday Night football and the now craziness
happening in the NFC playoff picture thanks to the Bucks
loss and Todd Bowles's subsequent meltdown.
Speaker 1 (34:28):
But we got a new As we said last night,
the details for the Sharon Moore Michigan situation are going
to come about in the next twenty four hours, and
we're going to know a lot more by this time
tonight than we did last night. At this time, we
knew last night Moore was fired in appropriate relationship with
a staff member on the Michigan coaching staff or somewhere
(34:51):
in the in the athletic department administration. Yeah, and he
was in police custody because of an assault charge. Now,
we didn't know a lot of what happened.
Speaker 3 (34:59):
There was any stories on there, and as I said
last night, with TMZ is saying, hey, there's lots of
stuff out there.
Speaker 1 (35:05):
You gotta wait. Now, what do we find out today?
The facts we found out in order were this, Pete
Themill was on ESPN earlier today. He said, Hey, the
last month or so, Sharon Moore was acting really weird,
was berating coaches. Wasn't the same guy he had been.
We then found out that the female staffer in question
(35:25):
got a raise from fifty thousand dollars a year to
ninety thousand dollars a year, with no bump in title
or promotion or anything else.
Speaker 3 (35:33):
Could have done a great job, do it a great
We're gonna double your salary.
Speaker 1 (35:37):
Maybe they looked at the market, realized the rate was.
Speaker 3 (35:41):
And then the nine to one to one call was
released today of what happened with Charon Moore and the
situation that put him in police custody. According to this report,
woman allegedly the person he hasn't been involved in the
last few months.
Speaker 1 (35:55):
He came to her house. She said she feared for
her life. He threatened her with a knife, than threatened
to harm himself with a knife, and he subsequently ran
dropped the knife. Police found him at a church and
took him into custody, where Charon Moore is right now.
He's in custody. Part of the reason is because they're
worried about whatever harm he might do to himself. So
(36:16):
this is now what we know about the Charon Moore
Michigan situation. And the one thing that's not been talked
about with this that really is something that people have
to start wrapping their heads around is that this is
so incredibly bad for the Michigan football, Michigan sports brand,
(36:38):
for everything associated with sports with the University of Michigan,
which is one of the top sports schools in the country. Look,
basketball team is great, hockey team is great. Football team.
Coming off the national title in twenty twenty three, they
have come back to that part of where, hey, Michigan
football is one of the five schools that stirs the
drink in all of college football.
Speaker 3 (36:59):
And now with these reports out here, you know there's
gonna be an investigation. You know they're gonna look into this.
We're just we're the early days of this thing, and
the next evolution of this story is going to be
when did Michigan know about this situation? Because there are
reports that maybe they knew just a couple of weeks ago,
maybe they knew as early as September, maybe they knew
(37:19):
before then, and the longer they knew, the worst is looking.
You let this guy continue to coach. You think this
story is bad. It's awful for Sharon Moore, and you
feel for everybody involved in this situation. But this is
so unbelievably bad for Michigan. I don't think people understand
just how bad it's going to get. And it's gonna
get bad for a long time. You're gonna see you
could see stuff like the ad getting fired, players all leaving,
(37:42):
transferring out. Who are they gonna get to come and
take over this job? Like the Michigan job went from
being a top five job. Do I don't know if
I want to come in and take this job. Look
at this is this is all you got. You're riddled
in controversy. You had a cheating controversy a couple of
years ago. Now you have another cheating controversy, not the same.
Speaker 1 (37:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (38:00):
Yeah, I want to go as far away from this
thing as I could get. Like the damage to Michigan
football and what this is for what was once the
pillar of the entire college football community. This is insanely
bad and it's just gonna suck for a long time
because it's not gonna get any better. It's gonna get
worse over the next few months.
Speaker 1 (38:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (38:18):
I mean, given the scandal of a couple of years ago,
call it him a pillar. Might be, Uh might be,
But they still won the National and it's like the
Hunk and Metal. They didn't take it away. I get it,
and more ended up doing a bunch of the suspension.
It's like he's still here, so take him out for
more games along the way. Not to say he was
inculpable of some of the stuff. When you get into
(38:40):
the recruiting and all of this stuff behind the scenes, uh,
the different legs to it all. But for the university,
it's now just a question of how long do you
do you have a gestation period before you get that information.
What does it do in terms of replacing more and
sofying the next head coach knowing that you will have
(39:04):
a number of players I'm sure enter the transfer portal
because of his departure right as soon as he's fired,
it opens things up. Will you get lawsuits based on
his termination? When we start talking about mental health and
wellness again, as you chronicle over the last month, two months,
however long this goes back because in this assault allegation,
(39:27):
you also have the victim saying that allegedly stalked her
for months, So what does that mean? What is that
three months? Is that six months?
Speaker 1 (39:36):
I mean a year?
Speaker 3 (39:37):
Just like how far back do we go? How many
people are now? Because generally winning cures all and it
gets swept away and you don't interrupt a season because
there's still nine and three. Yeah, at a lot of
schools that would clamor a lot of Bowl going schools
that would clamor for a nine and three thing, no
matter what scandal, but just goes through think about how
(39:58):
bad this can get. From there, you would think this
is not just Hey, we had a coach we had
to get rid of.
Speaker 1 (40:04):
We got somebody.
Speaker 3 (40:05):
No, no, no, this is now good. What does it
do for scholarship all? Is it due for any kind
of administrative penalty? Exit outbout a Fresca exit swollen dome
Jason Smith, Mike Carmon. Coming up next year, we'll hear
the Todd Bowles audio again because you have to, yay.
We'll tell you just exactly how wide open the NFL
playoff