December 27, 2025 • 41 mins
Mike Harmon and Arnie Spanier (in for Jason Smith) open hour 3 discussing recent comments from Lakers head coach JJ Redick calling out his team's effort amidst their recent losing streak. Betting analyst and Vegas insider Todd Fuhrman joins the show to share some of his favorite betting insights heading into Sunday's slate of NFL games. Plus, reacting to the Jets changing their minds and allowing the soccer coach woman to attempt a field goal for charity.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 3 (00:29):
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The Jason Smith Show with Me Mike Harmon. Already span
(00:52):
you're in for Jason Smith's to night, back to back
nights with the stinking genius himself. Nothing makes by my
family happier than when they hear your voice on the other.
Speaker 4 (01:05):
End of the line.
Speaker 5 (01:06):
Yeah, all the Yeah, They're like, who is that guy?
Who's that lunatic? You do the show with? Man?
Speaker 3 (01:11):
No, No, I've told the story a million times, just
like your cal Ripkin one so ill again.
Speaker 5 (01:15):
You didn't hear the cow Ripken story, But.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
I could go find old tapes of you and I
on air together. Hey, you know this cow and then
I followed him and he sunned me.
Speaker 5 (01:25):
You never heard the cow rip I did.
Speaker 4 (01:27):
I was all excited like it was a new one.
In this day and age.
Speaker 5 (01:30):
You've heard the Genie Buss story, I'm sure millions of.
Speaker 4 (01:33):
Time on air. And the fact that Steve Kerr won't
return your calls.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
I've heard them all, but it's the and you were
once in a questionable adult film.
Speaker 5 (01:47):
All of the R rated.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
Well back then R rating, I had a pretty wide berth.
But all of that to say, and I and I
told this. Ian knows this, Alex, and I'm sure Steve
remembers it. You know, growing up doing trading card shows, hustling,
you know, for the money to go see wrestling matches,
to go over to Kamiski Park or to Wrigley or
whatever event we were looking to do. Put gas in
(02:11):
our cards. We hustled baseball cards. I still dabble a
little bit nowadays. We've been talking Ty Shirt and I
a lot about the Marvel cards that came out and
the autographs or whatever. But back in the day, we'd
be up pricing the latest releases or taking a quick
check at the marketplace Beckett Values.
Speaker 5 (02:29):
Or whatever Becket's out there.
Speaker 4 (02:31):
Well, that's how old we are.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
Because now it's a perfect marketplace and you don't need
to know or really do much of anything. Basic math
skills of eroded, I think due to the fact that
everything's online. But that's that's a discussion for another time.
But back then, you know, you had to kind of
parse out, you know, what was rare, what was super rare,
et cetera. But maybe maybe you repriced a few cards.
(02:52):
But we'd have the radio on it. We'd listen to
old Uncle Arnie, you know, shouting at the windmills or like.
Speaker 4 (03:00):
Your Don Quixote. Yeah you're not well, I mean it's
old enough.
Speaker 5 (03:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
All what I'm saying is so my younger brother he
always wants he's been looking for the air checks forever
of the In case you did not know this, I
am already span you. I need some of those I
need some of those old air checks because we both
did a look. My older brother did a check. Yes,
he goes, I got nothing it's like the guy didn't exist,
(03:28):
like the CIA took out.
Speaker 4 (03:30):
His former uh former air checks.
Speaker 5 (03:34):
I love that.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
So I go back into your tapes. I need some
of those, because then we give Ty Shirt more arsenal from.
Speaker 5 (03:41):
My real I'll see if I can find that.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
I'm sure, well, I'm sure you have it laying around somewhere,
so we'll get to that.
Speaker 4 (03:48):
But a busy night in the sporting universe.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
We got a new Michigan coach, Todd Furman's going to
join us from Vegas in a couple of minutes. Start
setting up the lines for week seventeen. How do you
play it when you may have some players who disappear
and give you the Queen's Wave, like their Peyton Manning
of Days of Yore after a couple of series up
some of these games where there's.
Speaker 4 (04:09):
Nothing to quote, you know what?
Speaker 6 (04:11):
You know what I did, Mike, Yeah, last week, And
I'm being serious on this. You know, there's always a
game you're like, oh, they're gonna this team's gonna win
by three touchdowns or you know whoever. And you'll see
that once in a while in the final week. Last week,
the Jets were playing the Saints and the Saints were
at home. The Jets were just miserable. They were playing
That quarterback was a Cook or whatever his name is.
(04:31):
You got cook versus shut Yeah, and I you got shucked.
And I said, oh, they're gonna win by twenty plus points,
by three touchdowns. So I did an alternative line where
I took the Saints minus twenty.
Speaker 5 (04:45):
The line was six.
Speaker 6 (04:46):
I laid twenty and took like six to one odds
or five to one odds on that, and they won
by twenty three points.
Speaker 4 (04:54):
So you hammered it down.
Speaker 5 (04:55):
Yeah, you make it long, you make it a bigger line.
Speaker 3 (04:59):
Yeah, but you yeah no, I mean as in, you
hammered the line right, you laid down.
Speaker 4 (05:04):
Did you actually bet this?
Speaker 5 (05:06):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (05:06):
I bet it, but I parlayedd to a loser. But
that's besides you do it. I know I was going
for the big gust.
Speaker 4 (05:12):
It had me all excited and then he like and
then you use the P word.
Speaker 6 (05:15):
Yeah you, But you can find that in the last
week or two of games. We'll ask Todd about this
where a team is just pretty much rolling over, playing
out the year, kind of like the Raiders are, and
you just take the other side and just lay the well,
two or three touchdowns go with the odds.
Speaker 3 (05:30):
But you saw how the Giant said, oh, I see
your Max Crosby. Andrew Thomas is in suiting up by this,
So take that.
Speaker 5 (05:36):
Look, right, you gotta look at both sides.
Speaker 6 (05:40):
I mean there's a game where two I believe that
could be a rout out of the schedule up in
front of you. But that's what you got to look
for in these final weeks of the of the regular seas.
Speaker 4 (05:48):
So trying to add value as it rolls through.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
It is Fantasy Championship week, so we'll ask Todd for
a little bit of what he's seeing in the players
markets as well. We got a couple of games with
fifty totals on them. When you look at Rams and
the Falcons. You got Arizona and Cincinnati at fifty three
or fifty four. You've got that Bears game was at
fifty two and a half, Bears forty nine ers, and
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then you got a bunch of others that are absolute
dogs when it comes to trying to find some points.
Pittsburgh and Cleveland, that's thirty three and a half. Thirty
three and a half for an NFL game. The aforementioned Saint.
You know we were stanna see thirty. We were talking, Yeah, we.
Speaker 5 (06:27):
Were talking quarterbacks.
Speaker 6 (06:28):
I didn't even ask Jason Cole what about the Shawn Watson.
Now he's healthy, is anybody gonna want him?
Speaker 3 (06:33):
He wants him, He's he's in Cleveland. They have to
decide whether they want Yeah, but you gonna you can
get him. Yeah, you'll get him ten cents on the dogs.
Speaker 4 (06:42):
Yeah, but when was the last time he was good?
Speaker 3 (06:44):
Remember, because he took a year off in Houston before
he ended up in Cleveland.
Speaker 6 (06:48):
Right right, I understand that, But I mean, look like
quarterbacks are a hot commodity when you could find one.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
Someone's always got a bad Yeah, but with that baggage
and the fact that he's put a lot of bad
on tape.
Speaker 5 (06:59):
When you don't have to pay three hundred million or
whatever it is, one hundred million dollars for the guy.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
No, but there's still a lot left on the books.
Is Cleveland eating every dime of that?
Speaker 5 (07:06):
And you have though that he's just like Miami will
eat the contract of Tua.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
But even if you if you want to eat that,
I'd rather take my shot that I can figure out
toua than a guy that's been on the sideline because
A he wasn't healthy and B he was not a
good guy.
Speaker 5 (07:21):
Right, No, I I agree with you there. I'm not
saying so much for Miami.
Speaker 4 (07:25):
I'm just I'm.
Speaker 3 (07:25):
Saying in general, I don't think there's many organizations where
you have the ability based on the guy's off field
and is on field. Because what on film has he
shown you in four years that would say that's our guy.
Speaker 5 (07:39):
No, and I understand that.
Speaker 6 (07:40):
But you're also gonna go ahead, and I think it's
gonna be appealing that you're gonna get him for ten
cents on the dollar.
Speaker 5 (07:47):
Then you're gonna save.
Speaker 4 (07:48):
A bunch of money tooth a dollar.
Speaker 6 (07:50):
No, but you understand because I mean, Cleveland's gonna end
up paying all the money for him, so you don't
really have to take a big chance.
Speaker 5 (07:56):
I mean you can get him for like a million
dollars or something.
Speaker 3 (07:59):
Yeah, I look, I'd rather take another chance that can
resurrect Russell.
Speaker 4 (08:02):
Wilson's moon ball. Oh geez, at least I know what
he is and maybe a player and as a and
as a guy. Yeah, right, I.
Speaker 3 (08:12):
Might get in tips, I might have people booing him
at the Garden. But beyond that, it's gonna be He's
a little bit odd and off putting, and maybe his
teammates don't love him. But that's it for Deshaun Watson.
Do I want to bring that in and explore that
to my fan base.
Speaker 5 (08:28):
You probably don't, But I do think some team will
take a chance on him. It's not gonna be clean.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
That's the only place Jimmy has one stuck with the
problem he created.
Speaker 5 (08:38):
Well, I think somebody else will considering they can get
him so cheap, and I bet you can still play.
I mean, he could be a damn good quarterback for you.
Speaker 4 (08:48):
I'll let you make that bet.
Speaker 3 (08:50):
If I'm the if I stand in here as a
long standing member of Fox Sports Radio hot take nonsense aside,
I'm not putting my job on the line for Deshaun
Watson over what he might have been at once upon
a time.
Speaker 7 (09:04):
Right.
Speaker 6 (09:04):
Well, I mean, there's some teams that are desperate for quarterbacks.
So you could start with the New York Jets work
your way up.
Speaker 5 (09:10):
There's there's team.
Speaker 4 (09:10):
Even the Jets wouldn't go down that highway.
Speaker 3 (09:14):
You're right, even the Jets when they did reversal based
on us talking about it, and a back page post
in the New York Post about something we talked about yesterday.
We'll get that after our visit with Todd Furman a
little bit later on.
Speaker 4 (09:28):
But let's go back to JJ Reddick. We were in
the middle of a.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
Conversation a little while ago, and you know, time down
distance ran up against the clock, talking about the effort
the Lakers have been putting up. Certainly defensively, there's no
question about it. But JJ Reddick is at his wits
end after last night's game against the Houston Rockets, and
he let his players know it.
Speaker 8 (09:50):
The two words of the day, we're effort in execution,
and you know, I feel like when we've done both
of those things at a high level, we've been a
good basketball team, and we haven't. We're a terrible basketball team.
And tonight we were terrible that and that started legitimately
right away because we don't care enough right now. And
that's that's the part that bothers you a lot. We
don't care enough to do the things that are necessary.
We don't care enough to be a professional.
Speaker 4 (10:12):
You know, we had it, We had it.
Speaker 8 (10:14):
This is this is I always say this about, you know, culture,
I always say this about a team being a you know,
a good team being a functioning organism. Organism, can it
can change like that? We don't have it right now. Again,
it goes back to what I said the other night.
It's it's a matter of making the choice. And too
often we have guys that don't want to make that choice.
And it's pretty consistent who those guys are. And so
(10:34):
Saturday practice, I told the guys it's going to be uncomfortable.
The meeting is going to be uncomfortable. I'm not doing
another fifty three games like this.
Speaker 3 (10:41):
I could have gone for a couple of uy and
this guy gave me nothing and that guy gave me nothing.
But you know, it's like Reggie Jackson said all those
years ago, fans don't boo.
Speaker 4 (10:50):
Nobody's same thing here.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
By the way, put the captain obvious hat on him
as he's sitting there behind the desk.
Speaker 4 (10:57):
Effort and execution.
Speaker 3 (10:58):
Yeah, those two things in a walk of life usually
lead the good results.
Speaker 5 (11:03):
I look as we brought up a couple hours ago.
I didn't have it. We didn't have a lot of time.
Speaker 4 (11:07):
Oh I didn't.
Speaker 6 (11:09):
Yes, I didn't have a lot of one. I have
no problem with what JJ Reddick said. I know a
lot of people were like, oh, he had no right
to say that.
Speaker 5 (11:16):
If he was going to.
Speaker 6 (11:16):
Call people out individually, then call out people individually.
Speaker 5 (11:20):
No, that's not what that was for.
Speaker 6 (11:22):
That was to say it as a team that they
weren't getting the job done, and as a team they
weren't getting the job done. I think he did a
great job of relaying that to the media and to
the fans.
Speaker 5 (11:33):
So I have zero problem with that.
Speaker 6 (11:36):
I know that people are like, oh, he's gotta he's
a you know, he's got to call name, say Lebron,
you're messing up, or Luca, you're messing up.
Speaker 5 (11:44):
He'll say that to him behind closed doors.
Speaker 6 (11:47):
Doesn't need a camera in his face or a microphone
in his face for him to open up his mouth
and talk to those guys in front of the camera.
Speaker 4 (11:54):
Even though that's just what he did here.
Speaker 5 (11:56):
Well he didn't say the name Mike, you know.
Speaker 4 (11:58):
But but he goes firing Brimstone.
Speaker 5 (12:01):
Here, but he should, that's his job, but not at.
Speaker 4 (12:04):
The media, Like what he's gonna inspire these guys through the.
Speaker 6 (12:08):
What do you want him to do? What do you
want him to say? Well, okay, there's another loss. We'll
just go back and work on the next game. I mean,
he's a fiery guy. Sometimes we like what he says,
sometimes we don't. He was well within his right to
talk like that. I mean, gosh, don't be so but hurt.
If you're a player, he said it exactly right. I
(12:29):
got no problem with it.
Speaker 5 (12:30):
If you're a Laker fan, you're probably saying he's one
hundred percent right. I'm behind them one. So I don't
know what everybody's getting all upset about mine.
Speaker 3 (12:39):
No, it's roster construction. Look, you go from the top down.
You look at what you have as a roster. You
got fooled a little bit early on with some early
success against some middling team.
Speaker 5 (12:51):
Mike, who are you talking about?
Speaker 6 (12:52):
The Lakers were nineteen and seven until they lost three
in a row.
Speaker 3 (12:56):
So to have lost six of their last nine and
then guys out repeatedly.
Speaker 4 (13:01):
Austin Raves is now gone a month.
Speaker 5 (13:03):
Well that's that's not it, JJ Reddick.
Speaker 3 (13:05):
No, but it's But it's also the you're now the
coach that has to find some answers. Oh, it's not
as simple as hey, you know, what can you try
a little bit harder. Nobody might coach him up because
as a media member, he certainly went and took out
the Leo DiCaprio flamethrower on a lot of coaches calling
him excuse makers or whatever.
Speaker 6 (13:25):
Well, I mean, yeah, it's going to hurt that Reeves
is out one hundred percent and he's probably gonna be
out longer than a month. As I was reading during
the break about injuries.
Speaker 4 (13:34):
Like that, you certainly don't want rushing back.
Speaker 5 (13:37):
Because because it could hurt what your achilles is that.
Speaker 4 (13:39):
What he's right, And we've seen that before.
Speaker 3 (13:42):
Yes, I remember when Kevin Durant had to lay down
on the phat essentially right.
Speaker 5 (13:46):
So that's the last thing you want.
Speaker 6 (13:48):
You're gonna make sure he's one hundred and twenty percent
before you bring him back.
Speaker 5 (13:52):
I don't know.
Speaker 6 (13:53):
Do the Lakers make a trade, Do they go after somebody?
Do you know it's not like JJ Reddick is sitting
in his office right now making phone.
Speaker 5 (14:00):
Seeing who's available. So you know you might have to
do something. You can't be without Austin Ruiz for about
forty five days.
Speaker 3 (14:07):
Yeah, we talked about usage, We talk about defensive effort,
but coming into the year. Nobody expect him to be
able to play defense. You're running out Lebron James and
Luka Danchins on the same five. You're already at a
detriment defensively before the ball's been tipped.
Speaker 6 (14:22):
Get rid of Lebron right now, Bring somebody else in
that's taking on that contract.
Speaker 5 (14:29):
There's a lot of people that would take on the
Lebron contract.
Speaker 3 (14:32):
If you could, like because I have this argument with Smith,
it looks like you're just filling his seat and get
it with the same argument, what contender or any team
of merit is going to trade you three or four
pieces that add up to his fifty three millions?
Speaker 5 (14:44):
Well, you're not getting through. Who said that you're gonna
get three or four pieces?
Speaker 3 (14:48):
No, no, no, But that's what you have to do. You've
got to make salaries match. And the Lakers aren't just
gonna send him away for a bucket of balls.
Speaker 6 (14:54):
No, right, I understand that that you have to make
the salaries match. And that's going to be a problem
if they let me be tell you something, If you
didn't have to get equal in return, there'd be like
the Golden State would be first team lined up to
get somebody like Lebron.
Speaker 5 (15:07):
Why, why are you serious? If you see where Golden
State is even Steve Kerr said their dynasty is over.
Speaker 3 (15:16):
Well, I mean he's a realist, he's your guy. You
might have been listening to the Sunday Show.
Speaker 6 (15:21):
Right, So you gotta do something. You don't think that
Lebron is actually gonna play another year.
Speaker 5 (15:31):
With the Lakers after this year?
Speaker 4 (15:32):
Do you know? I don't.
Speaker 6 (15:33):
Okay, so he's gonna got gotta go somewhere.
Speaker 3 (15:36):
Well, that's fine, that's next year when he's willing to
sign for five million dollars, I'm not trading assets that
are commensurate with what's left on a fifty three million
dollar deal.
Speaker 6 (15:47):
That's right, and halfway through and you go and take
that is you know you could cut that salary in half,
first of all.
Speaker 5 (15:54):
Because it will be halfway through the year, so you want.
Speaker 3 (15:57):
To have to great, But I still have to give
up twenty eight million on the other there's salaries go
change to here, aren't he it's it's apples to apples
when it comes to you got to be within that percentage.
Speaker 5 (16:07):
Well, do some creative math for you and tell you
we'll figure it out.
Speaker 3 (16:10):
But I think we get a center to the Dolphins
as your next quarterback.
Speaker 6 (16:15):
He's he really does have to go because he's hurting
the team. He's slowed him down, and they play so
much better basketball without him on the court the ball.
Speaker 4 (16:24):
And you've watched them the last run.
Speaker 3 (16:26):
Part of the problem also is Luka Danca to where
we start questioning, you know, fitness. Does he need the
extra carriage of pounds or is that better for him?
Was he happier because he's certainly his shooting percentage is
down nearly six and a half percent during this latest run,
and you look at his efficiency numbers are all decided
to lead down Lebron. I mean, people are doing the
(16:49):
video after video. The Dylan Brooks stuff is just fun.
I mean, you might as well put yak Andy Sacks
behind that. We could play that for days. But the
rest of it is like the lack of effort. I know,
one on one you're gonna get cooked, right, and then
it becomes about health defense. But if you're not even
on that side of the court as your team is
trying to defend a good chunk of the times. Look,
(17:10):
once upon the time the Lakers had that with Kareem
Abdul Jabar.
Speaker 6 (17:13):
Yeah, doobt they can't get yanis think about what a
team that would be with Luka.
Speaker 3 (17:18):
And the other part is that one of your pieces,
whether you love him or thought he was a chip,
is the guy with the injury in Austin Reeves.
Speaker 6 (17:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (17:28):
Yeah, that changes draft out a lot.
Speaker 3 (17:30):
Of things that you were able to do in terms
of viable pieces. So right now, I understand JJ Reddick's frustration.
It's like when he lashed out at Jams.
Speaker 5 (17:40):
Saying it like that, you know, pointy fingers like that.
Speaker 3 (17:44):
Well, no, I mean have added if you're gonna do it.
But it comes to the all right, you've now put
the target back on yourself too. You've got to be
able to try to coach up the team that you have. No,
but there's no no there who had a target on them?
Then seven, Like to your point, everybody was bowing at
the altar. Clearly he knows what he's doing. Yeah, clearly,
(18:07):
clearly he's a wizard.
Speaker 5 (18:08):
Three games later, we want to get rid of you.
Speaker 4 (18:11):
Three and six later.
Speaker 3 (18:12):
I mean clearly he's got a very thin skin and
now he wants to fight, so fighting noise going out there,
no question Arnie Spanner at Sticking Genius One find me
over at Swollen Dome.
Speaker 4 (18:25):
We can do this all day.
Speaker 3 (18:26):
Long, but we cannot because we've got Todd Ferman coming
up next. As we continue here, it's Fox Sports Radio
The Jason Smith Show with me My Garmin, Pally.
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Speaker 9 (18:38):
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Speaker 3 (18:48):
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What are you doing interrupting our promo? Yeah, he wasn't
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Speaker 2 (18:56):
You took those clips totally of context.
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Speaker 5 (19:02):
Let me put this into context. Shut up. Yeah.
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Speaker 3 (19:26):
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I'm Mike Harmon alongside me the stinking genius himself, Arnie Spanier.
It's the Jason Smith Show with me, Mike Harmon, Arnie
in for Jason Tonight. Coming up in a minute, We're
gonna go to the hotline with our guy Todd Furman,
talking all things Las Vegas, odds and ends.
Speaker 4 (19:47):
As we go.
Speaker 3 (19:47):
Through, Folks starting to chime in with some old man
Winter kind of comments when you talk about Lebron James,
Arnie owing to our last conversation about the Lakers and
where they're going, I'm curious to see where they're at
odds wise and where that wind total is sitting now
with Austin Reeves sideline for at least the next month
(20:08):
or so, so we'll find out as we effort. Todd
coming up here in a second Bowl games finishing up,
the NBA games for the night finishing, but we get
a couple of Saturday football games along the way. We
got well to tomorrow, right, We've got the Texans. We
got the Chargers in a big battle of the AFC,
(20:29):
and then we get Snoop Hunley against Malik Willis in
the nightcap.
Speaker 4 (20:33):
For all of this and more, let's head out to Vegas. Now.
Speaker 3 (20:36):
It's our buddy Todd Furman at Todd Furman. Where you
find him. Check out his Twitter page for all of
the particulars of where you can see him. He's got
the pros versus Joe's bit that he does on Instagram.
Give you an idea where the money's flowing and the
betting world. Our guy Todd joins us each and every week.
What's going on, buddy? How are you?
Speaker 10 (20:57):
I'm doing a lot tonight, gentlemen. Hopefully you guys are
as well. The final football weekend, so to speak of
twenty twenty five officially on the horizon.
Speaker 3 (21:05):
Here we go, as we got a couple of games
in the books, some barn burners in the NFL yesterday.
We'll see if we can capitalize. Be curious to see
how many Christmas dinners were spoiled by some of the
play that we saw on a Thursday, including the elimination
of the Detroit Lions.
Speaker 10 (21:21):
You figure a lot of that led to a little
bit of indigestion unless you were an underdog player who
was able to cash eight trio games on the standalone
slate on Christmas. You parlay that with the three underdogs
that covered on Thanksgiving, and apparently holidays are the perfect
time for dogs to get you to the window with
inflated point spreads. Never fall victim harm to the way
Arnie likes to play. If a team is in a
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must win scenario, you feel you have to bet them,
and all opportunities look to go the other way.
Speaker 6 (21:47):
Todd, are you okay with betting a game that has
nothing of value at all like Cardinals Bengals or a
game like that, or.
Speaker 10 (21:55):
What I've bet a bunch of these Bowl games. So
the answers that would be yes. But when it comes
to the NFL Week seventeen and Week eighteen, you're always
looking for some of those matchups. You're trying to identify
which player absences aren't being caught by the odds makers,
and it's not referencing those guys at the skill positions.
You're starting quarterbacks, you're running back to your wide receivers
because that's oftentimes what moves the needle. It's more along
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the offensive and defensive line and where you can try
and clean an edge. And this time of year you
do see some volatility and numbers no greater illustration the game.
We're going to see them primetime tomorrow night. Where amid
speculation that Jordan Love could start for the Green Bay
Packers and we knew Lamar Jackson was listed as doubtful,
that number got its high as five and a half.
Of course we find it earlier today and Milik Willis
is going to go when we're right back at a
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field goal. So it's trying to figure out and evaluate
which teams want to be there, which teams are at
full strength, or in the case of the Giants and
Raiders on Sunday, which team will do everything in their
power to try and lose a football. Yeah, so you're
that number one pick in.
Speaker 3 (22:52):
The draft over on that one still at forty one
and a half. That's optimistic.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
You have to.
Speaker 10 (22:57):
Imagine that if these teams find themselves and fourth and
short and plus territory, you may see more punts from
the thirty five to thirty nine yard line.
Speaker 4 (23:05):
Than have it before.
Speaker 10 (23:06):
But it does beg the question is which team wants
to take things one step further, we've seen the ongoing
game of chess for both of these franchises in terms
of making some key players inactive and in the case
of Max Crosby, protecting the player from himself from NFL insiders.
Yet Fox's very own said, Max Crosby none too happy
about that decision that was made about this by the
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Silver and Black.
Speaker 6 (23:27):
I had no problem with them sending him home. Of course,
they want to lose and there's nothing at stake. I
had no problem with them protecting him.
Speaker 10 (23:34):
I think it sends the wrong message to an organization
when you're trying to build a culture that clearly the
Raiders haven't had in about thirty years, that you need
to go out there and play every game, and when
your leader isn't going to be out there in the
field coming off arguably his best and most dominant performance
of the entire season last weekend against the Houston Texans,
it just sends the wrong message. And it's a player
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that has expressed interest in staying here. But it wouldn't
shock me at all if we'd seen Max Crosby play
his final as a member of the Raiders. If he
can use his leverage to try and get trained to
a contender so he doesn't waste his career at only
twenty eight years of age.
Speaker 3 (24:07):
Todd, do you give us a little bit with the
Packers in terms of the quarterback situation? Willison love as
to the value the Bill's currently a one and a
half point favorite over the Eagles, How do we play
that one? How much do you think it changes if, say,
New England wins in the early window.
Speaker 10 (24:24):
I don't think it'll change much for a Buffalo Bills
team who would love to be able to finally beat Philadelphia,
a team that they've struggled with in recent meetings. But
you do have to wonder how judicious they'll be with
Josh Allen's usage in the game, specifically as a runner,
depending on the severity of that foot injury. You know,
this is a game, guys. We saw Buffalo open as
a full field goal favor, a total shade higher than
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where it currently sits, you know, whether or not exactly
opportune this time of year in western New York and
for the first time in a while in a down AFC.
You figure that Buffalo would do everything they could to
give themselves home field advantage. But this is clearly an
Eagles team that I think people have written off a
little bit. And while I'm not sure we see this
number move to Philadelphia as short favor, I can tell
you that professional betters got ahead of it, looking to
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back Philadelphia at plus three. And that's why we're sitting
with Buffalo just a modest one point home favorite Orchard Parker.
Speaker 6 (25:12):
You know, Todd, now that I hit the Saints minus
twenty last week, I'm like, now I've got the fever.
I'm like, well, can the Bengals win by twenty points?
Can New England beat the Jets by twenty and blow
them out?
Speaker 5 (25:26):
Do you do stuff like that, Todd? Or is that
just Duke crazy?
Speaker 10 (25:29):
Well, the Bengals can win by twenty, aren't you? They
actually beat the Miami Dolphins by twenty four less boring
at home. I just wanted to make you were you
sure you were aware of that and the Quinn Youers experience.
But look, you're going to get some volatile results this
week and next. So I do think this time of year,
more so in the middle of the season, it makes
a little bit of sense to explore some of those
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alternate numbers. Maybe you're trying to make a compelling case
for some of these underdogs to win outright, you know,
by hooker by crook. A lot of these teams aren't
going to quit. We saw that yesterday with the Minnesota Vikings.
It may not have been a picasso in the box score,
but they did everything in their power to play spoiler,
and they get you home at a healthy underdog winning
out right, catching seven and a half. And even in
the case of the Kansas City Chiefs, to play here
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or play there, you know, they have an opportunity to
kind of upset a divisional rival, catching thirteen and a half.
So we'll see exactly what we get. But no way,
shape or form, is this an endorsement for me saying
that people should run out and bet them without leftover
Honik or Christmas money on the Jets to beat the
New England Patriots, even though the Patriots are down plenty
of key contributor.
Speaker 3 (26:27):
I gotta say Arnie conveniently forgot the part where he
parlayed that yes, when he retold the story here farly
to a loser.
Speaker 10 (26:35):
Arnie always leaves out key details in some of the stories.
So I know none of us around Fox Sports Radio
unfamiliar with Arnie's creative arithmetic.
Speaker 3 (26:43):
Well, even if you got that first part right, that's
impressive until he said the word I partly did all right.
Looking ahead to the college football playoffs on nine seven,
six and a half, Oregon just a two point favorite.
Speaker 4 (26:56):
Where where's your spin the wheel? Kind of flowing that
force theme.
Speaker 10 (27:01):
I think all these games are fascinating for a variety
of different reasons. So when we're looking at the Ohio
State Miami game, it's a little bit of buyer beware
trying to think that Miami will run it back with
the same level of success they had against Texas A
and m I know, the lasting image we have of
the Scarlett and Gray was the Big Ten Championship where
they look pedestrian an offense, and against this Miami defensive front,
they're going to have to be a little bit more dynamic.
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But it's a fast track. No weather in Ohio State
has had a couple weeks to lick their wounds. Let's
see if they come out filled with piss and vinegar
like we saw last year in their first playoff game
against Tennessee and route to winning a national championship. So
I don't want to say Miami is a dog with fleas,
but I wouldn't want any part of the Hurricanes catching
that aggressive number. Oregon and Texas Tech, for me, arguably
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the most fascinating but the toughest to try and handicap.
You look at a Ducks team who was much more
dominant than the final score indicated last weekend against James Madison.
Texas Tech very worthy of getting a buye with a
stout run defense, but it's also an offense that has
been known to bog down in the red zone. And
if you're settling for field goals against the team that
should be a little bit healthier offensively, specific in their
specifically in their passing attack. Against Oregon, it's not going
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to end well. We'll see if that game gets to
a full field goal. I would anticipate a little bit
of Texas Tech money coming in there. You dig into
the Rose Bowl, the granddaddy of them all, between Indiana
and Alabama. If you were to flip you know the
season long profiles, and Alabama came in with a resume
like Indiana has put together, this wouldn't be a number
that was sitting at six and a half. We'd be
looking more at No. Man's land, you know, flirting with
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nearly ten, had a chance to see Alabama in person
with my own eyes, and I'll say one thing, guys,
that was more Oklahoma losing the football game blowing a
seventeen to nothing leads than anything Alabama did. But at
the same time, you dig into Fernando Mendoz's numbers, and
twenty seven of his thirty three touchdown passes this year
didn't exactly come against the heavyweights of college football. So
we'll see if Indiana can run the football and if
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a defense that lost the key contributor along that d line,
we'll be able to hold up in the trenches. And then,
of course the SEC nightcap between Georgia and Old Myths,
familiarity between these teams, a game that Old Myths, you know,
essentially had one through three quarters in Athens, and you
can make the case that Georgia was able to turn
their season around. Then, yes, they've trended up defensively, but
I still have some major reservations about this Georgia team's
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ability to run away and hide. You did have professional
money came in on the favorite at minus five and
a half six and a half number got out to seven,
and there was a little bit of buyback, So all
four games should definitely be entertaining, and it's what we
should look forward to to have the eight best teams
with the exception of Notre Dame not being invited to
the tournament, having a chance to win the national championship.
Speaker 6 (29:28):
Tons, did you mention there was a lot of buyback?
Any chance late money is going to push those lines
to where Ohio states minus ten, where Oregon's minus three,
and Indiana and Georgia hit that seven mark or is
that too much task?
Speaker 10 (29:42):
It's always interesting, Arnie, when you speculate around those key
numbers where that next move comes in. And I think
all of these games are kind of sitting there. You
do have some six and a half and sevens depending
on the sportsbooks for that Alabama Indiana game. So if
you like the favorite latest six and a half as always,
and if you like the underdog, make a case to
late the seven. Georgia will miss game six and a
half painted across the board, so you can't really shop
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around for the best of the number there. My gut
tells me we're going to get to seven on that
game more likely than we will be to sixty to
six and a half, come down to six, and for
that Ohio State Miami game. Look, we're as high as
nine and a half. That's some prominent books out here
in the desert. We're not going to get this game
down to seven. But I could see a scenario where
books you know, are more inclined to move off to
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nine and a half, down to nine and let betters
continue to fight it out rather than dangling some of
that bait that could be out there if they were
to get to a secondary key number of ten, which
is absolutely massive with the lowest total in these four quarterfinals.
Speaker 3 (30:36):
He's the best in the biz. Joins us each and
every week. Longtime friend of the show. It's Tod Furman,
CBS Sports, HQ sports Line, as he calls himself, the
part time hack on j On sc and TSN, Underscore Sports,
co founder, former host to bet the Board pod and
of course working at Caesars back in the day.
Speaker 4 (30:57):
It's our guy, Todd Furman. Todd, I appreciate you stopping.
Speaker 3 (31:00):
Happy holidays to you and yours appreciate you being part
of the team.
Speaker 10 (31:04):
Always a pleasure, gentlemen, But this isn't really like a
holiday miracle. It's more like a holiday horror show. Knowing
that I have to do segments with arready twice in
forty eight hours, I'm not sure what contest in hell
I had a win to take on this coool.
Speaker 6 (31:16):
Congratulations, congratulations, Like get that done, my friend.
Speaker 10 (31:20):
Lucky meet Enjoy the weekend.
Speaker 3 (31:22):
Hidrate maybe hydrate. That's Todd Ferman at Todd Ferman. You'll
hear him Sunday night nine to twenty ish Pacific midnight
and Change Eastern on Fox Sports Radio. He and Arnie
and Chris Plank as they wrap up Week seventeen of
your NFL season. But over to the news desk, we
go for another round with our guys Steve de Sager,
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as most of these games are starting to come to
a finish on a big Friday night.
Speaker 11 (31:48):
Yeah, everything's final. Clippers took the late game in the NBA.
We'll get to that in a moment. As far as
college football, will have eight bowl games on Saturday, but
the University of Miami will play New Year's Eve against
number two Ohio State at Cotton Bowl Quarterfinal. Oregon faces
Texas Tech in the Orange Bowl Quarterfinal on New Year's
Day in the Rose Bowl Alabama in a quarterfinal against
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number one Indiana. The forecast for Pasadena at the moment
the rain holding off until after the parade and the game.
Speaker 4 (32:16):
We shall see.
Speaker 11 (32:16):
It's been a rainy week in the LA area. Ole
Miss will play Georgia in the Sugar Bowl quarter final indoors,
of course, New York New Year's Night, I should say,
as for the earlier college football games, we had Northwestern
beating Central Michigan in Detroit thirty four to seven. Minnesota
won its bowl game in overtime against New Mexico twenty
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to seventeen in Phoenix, and in Dallas tonight. Ut San
Antonio was down fourteen to nothing early but won fifty
seven to twenty over Florida International, which on fourth down
conversions went one for ten in this game. Michigan's football
coach is Kyle Whittingham. From Utah the late game in
the NBA to the Clippers winners at Portland one nineteen
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one to oh three. Brooklyn Lopez thirty one points from
three point range.
Speaker 4 (33:02):
He was nine for.
Speaker 11 (33:03):
Fourteen at Utah, the game winning shot from Keyante George
with two seconds left to beat Detroit one thirty one
one twenty nine George with thirty one points. Phoenix got
thirty from Devin Booker in a win at New Orleans
Memphis over Milwaukee for the Grizzlies tennisist for John Morant.
The Bulls have won five straight after beating Philadelphia one
oh nine one oh two thanks to a ten oh
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run at the end. Joel and Beat thirty one points
in the loss. Miami woned Atlanta despite thirty from Trey Young.
Boston sent Indiana to was seven straight loss, won forty
to one twenty two. Jalen Brown thirty points, his eighth
straight thirty point game. Charlotte was just ten and twenty
this season, but one at Orlando, and Washington was five
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and twenty three, but got a home win against Toronto
one thirty eight to one seventeen, shooting fifty nine percent
from the floor. Austin Reeves of the Lakers is out
at least one month with a calf injury. Anthony Davis
of the MAVs due to miss a few games with
the straying groin. College basketball is still on Christmas break.
Most teams resume on Sunday or Monday. Men's and women's.
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The NHL was still off tonight thirteen games on their
Saturday schedule, and there are two NFL games on Saturday,
Texans at Chargers and then Ravens at Packers. Green Bay
quarterback Jordan Love will not play Saturday night due to
his concussion. Ravens quarterback Lamar Jackson listed is doubtful with
a bruise.
Speaker 4 (34:24):
Back back to you. Thanks so much, Steve.
Speaker 3 (34:26):
Steve Desager at the News Desk appreciate his work as
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roll deep into the night talking about all's greatness in
the sporting universe. Coming up in ten minutes, we'll revisit
the hiring of a new coach at the University of
Michigan as they try to get past all the chaos
of the last couple of weeks and some would say
the last couple of years, except for you know that
little championship trophy that they pulled along the way. But
(36:18):
we did a story yesterday and we've got a happy update, ye.
And I think it's you and me and the power
of the Fox Sports radio brand that helped take this over.
And Woody Johnson, if you're out there, good don ye
you finally listen to some good advice. Ian Roddy is
a Jets fan. He's with us tonight. Anything you'd like
to say to Woody Johnson while we're on air, and
(36:38):
we know we have his rapt attention. I just I
don't know nothing in particular. I just feel like the
it's just always something with this team. Man, It's just
always something, whether it's on the field or off the field,
there's always some sort of headline. And that's why it
just really discourages you as a fan when it comes
to wanting your organization to make a turnaround and you know,
(37:00):
climb out of mediocrity and stuff, and it's just things
like this showing you like even I don't know, I
was thinking if she.
Speaker 5 (37:06):
Wasn't going to join the team, my friend, it was
like she was.
Speaker 7 (37:10):
Like, if you want your organization to turn the corner
and you know, climb out of mediocrity and stuff. It's like,
obviously it takes time for you to see a change
on the field, but when things like this happen off
the field, it's just like the it's an indicator that
things aren't really changing in the organiza.
Speaker 3 (37:26):
Now let me let me pull it back for those
that missed our our first takeout it yesterday. But Ian's
point is very simple. You got to get the simple
stuff right before you can do the heartestly set. That's
exactly the old crawl before you walk, whatever you want
to do, before you open the mic, and then open
mouth and say things. The Jets have this hundred thousand
dollars kickoff contest. It's Sunday's game, and a woman named
(37:49):
Ashley Castanio Gervasi, who was you know, with her dad
used to watch Jets games, was doing a kicking exhibition
that they add out, you.
Speaker 5 (38:01):
Know, on the it was like a tryout.
Speaker 3 (38:02):
Yeah, well but one of those things where you know,
like carnival games in between you know, sign up for
a credit card and all that crap. And they asked her,
it's like, hey, you know, what's what's your history?
Speaker 4 (38:13):
What are you doing?
Speaker 3 (38:14):
And she said flat out, hey, I was a Division
one college soccer player. I was a goalkeeper, going okay,
But at no point did they ask her whether she
had any other involvement.
Speaker 4 (38:26):
And she's a coach.
Speaker 3 (38:28):
So as this contest is getting closer, and she was
part of a September contest into an October contest, she's
moving on, she's advancing, and now it's for one hundred
grand the grand FINALI this weekend. They said, no, no, no, no, no,
by the letter of the law, by the rules. Because
you're a coach of a high school team, you've done.
Speaker 4 (38:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (38:46):
It was because she was a coach, not a player.
That's what got her. Yeah, which I would think it's
the other way around.
Speaker 3 (38:50):
Yeah, I would have thought as soon as you said, hey,
he's a Division one player, you're done.
Speaker 4 (38:54):
Right, That's how a lot of this works.
Speaker 3 (38:56):
But whatever they need, you need someone to make it
look good, right, because you can't have a bunch of
fifty cent out there throwing first pitches or kicking the
ball you know, waywardly here. You want at least some
level of competition. So yeah, pushed through. So whoever was
the person vetting folks, I got one as quickly as
you could, because you go back to your other part
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of your job as part of the promotions team. Now,
eventually she got disqualified. Well, it showed up on the
back page of the post. We talked about it last night.
I know McAfee chimed in on it yesterday and everybody
started screaming, let her cook, like Donna Martin graduates. Donna
Martin graduates, So you go nine oh two one zero
reference as we transcend every decade in our pop culture references.
(39:40):
But now it looks like there's a reversal of fortune
and she will kick after all on Sunday, aren'tie.
Speaker 5 (39:47):
Yeah, the Jets fell to public pressure.
Speaker 6 (39:49):
Good for Woody because I'm glad Woody listened to somebody
and said, you know what, just let her kick.
Speaker 5 (39:54):
I always said to you, I said yesterday, I go,
what's the big deal? It's one hundred grand.
Speaker 6 (39:58):
They probably went ahead, got insurance anyway when you do
contests like this, so it's not like it's money coming
out of his pocket or anything. Just let her kick.
And I'm sure the backlash was just so huge that
he couldn't take it anymore and did a reversal.
Speaker 5 (40:14):
So good for everybody that got behind this shit, though, but.
Speaker 3 (40:16):
It's like as Ian said, it's like, if you can't
get this right, how am I going to expect you
to pick the groceries for what really matters?
Speaker 7 (40:24):
Even he got it right now, So even if like
technically like that, you know, she should have read the rules,
and even if like technically it was against the rules
for her to be kicking, it's just like it's just
not worth the pr storm that this creates, Like just
let her kick.
Speaker 3 (40:38):
Yeah, the money would have gone towards buying her first
house into the Esophageal Cancer Education Foundation, That's what her
father passed from. Jet said the franchise would donate to
the medical cause as well, So it's all's well.
Speaker 5 (40:53):
In the end, Fox Sports could kick a field goal
that long. Brady Quinn leg probably could too.
Speaker 4 (41:00):
Arnie, Yeah for sure.
Speaker 3 (41:02):
Well, I mean you played that three on three game.
Oh wait, that was thirty five years ago. You gotta
listen to the whole show. He's already in for Jason,
I'm Mike. That's Ian at Ian Roddy underscore. As we continue,
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Speaker 4 (01:05):
End of the line.
Speaker 5 (01:06):
Yeah, all the Yeah, They're like, who is that guy?
Who's that lunatic? You do the show with? Man?
Speaker 3 (01:11):
No, No, I've told the story a million times, just
like your cal Ripkin one so ill again.
Speaker 5 (01:15):
You didn't hear the cow Ripken story, But.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
I could go find old tapes of you and I
on air together. Hey, you know this cow and then
I followed him and he sunned me.
Speaker 5 (01:25):
You never heard the cow rip I did.
Speaker 4 (01:27):
I was all excited like it was a new one.
In this day and age.
Speaker 5 (01:30):
You've heard the Genie Buss story, I'm sure millions of.
Speaker 4 (01:33):
Time on air. And the fact that Steve Kerr won't
return your calls.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
I've heard them all, but it's the and you were
once in a questionable adult film.
Speaker 5 (01:47):
All of the R rated.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
Well back then R rating, I had a pretty wide berth.
But all of that to say, and I and I
told this. Ian knows this, Alex, and I'm sure Steve
remembers it. You know, growing up doing trading card shows, hustling,
you know, for the money to go see wrestling matches,
to go over to Kamiski Park or to Wrigley or
whatever event we were looking to do. Put gas in
(02:11):
our cards. We hustled baseball cards. I still dabble a
little bit nowadays. We've been talking Ty Shirt and I
a lot about the Marvel cards that came out and
the autographs or whatever. But back in the day, we'd
be up pricing the latest releases or taking a quick
check at the marketplace Beckett Values.
Speaker 5 (02:29):
Or whatever Becket's out there.
Speaker 4 (02:31):
Well, that's how old we are.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
Because now it's a perfect marketplace and you don't need
to know or really do much of anything. Basic math
skills of eroded, I think due to the fact that
everything's online. But that's that's a discussion for another time.
But back then, you know, you had to kind of
parse out, you know, what was rare, what was super rare,
et cetera. But maybe maybe you repriced a few cards.
(02:52):
But we'd have the radio on it. We'd listen to
old Uncle Arnie, you know, shouting at the windmills or like.
Speaker 4 (03:00):
Your Don Quixote. Yeah you're not well, I mean it's
old enough.
Speaker 5 (03:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
All what I'm saying is so my younger brother he
always wants he's been looking for the air checks forever
of the In case you did not know this, I
am already span you. I need some of those I
need some of those old air checks because we both
did a look. My older brother did a check. Yes,
he goes, I got nothing it's like the guy didn't exist,
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like the CIA took out.
Speaker 4 (03:30):
His former uh former air checks.
Speaker 5 (03:34):
I love that.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
So I go back into your tapes. I need some
of those, because then we give Ty Shirt more arsenal from.
Speaker 5 (03:41):
My real I'll see if I can find that.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
I'm sure, well, I'm sure you have it laying around somewhere,
so we'll get to that.
Speaker 4 (03:48):
But a busy night in the sporting universe.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
We got a new Michigan coach, Todd Furman's going to
join us from Vegas in a couple of minutes. Start
setting up the lines for week seventeen. How do you
play it when you may have some players who disappear
and give you the Queen's Wave, like their Peyton Manning
of Days of Yore after a couple of series up
some of these games where there's.
Speaker 4 (04:09):
Nothing to quote, you know what?
Speaker 6 (04:11):
You know what I did, Mike, Yeah, last week, And
I'm being serious on this. You know, there's always a
game you're like, oh, they're gonna this team's gonna win
by three touchdowns or you know whoever. And you'll see
that once in a while in the final week. Last week,
the Jets were playing the Saints and the Saints were
at home. The Jets were just miserable. They were playing
That quarterback was a Cook or whatever his name is.
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You got cook versus shut Yeah, and I you got shucked.
And I said, oh, they're gonna win by twenty plus points,
by three touchdowns. So I did an alternative line where
I took the Saints minus twenty.
Speaker 5 (04:45):
The line was six.
Speaker 6 (04:46):
I laid twenty and took like six to one odds
or five to one odds on that, and they won
by twenty three points.
Speaker 4 (04:54):
So you hammered it down.
Speaker 5 (04:55):
Yeah, you make it long, you make it a bigger line.
Speaker 3 (04:59):
Yeah, but you yeah no, I mean as in, you
hammered the line right, you laid down.
Speaker 4 (05:04):
Did you actually bet this?
Speaker 5 (05:06):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (05:06):
I bet it, but I parlayedd to a loser. But
that's besides you do it. I know I was going
for the big gust.
Speaker 4 (05:12):
It had me all excited and then he like and
then you use the P word.
Speaker 6 (05:15):
Yeah you, But you can find that in the last
week or two of games. We'll ask Todd about this
where a team is just pretty much rolling over, playing
out the year, kind of like the Raiders are, and
you just take the other side and just lay the well,
two or three touchdowns go with the odds.
Speaker 3 (05:30):
But you saw how the Giant said, oh, I see
your Max Crosby. Andrew Thomas is in suiting up by this,
So take that.
Speaker 5 (05:36):
Look, right, you gotta look at both sides.
Speaker 6 (05:40):
I mean there's a game where two I believe that
could be a rout out of the schedule up in
front of you. But that's what you got to look
for in these final weeks of the of the regular seas.
Speaker 4 (05:48):
So trying to add value as it rolls through.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
It is Fantasy Championship week, so we'll ask Todd for
a little bit of what he's seeing in the players
markets as well. We got a couple of games with
fifty totals on them. When you look at Rams and
the Falcons. You got Arizona and Cincinnati at fifty three
or fifty four. You've got that Bears game was at
fifty two and a half, Bears forty nine ers, and
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then you got a bunch of others that are absolute
dogs when it comes to trying to find some points.
Pittsburgh and Cleveland, that's thirty three and a half. Thirty
three and a half for an NFL game. The aforementioned Saint.
You know we were stanna see thirty. We were talking, Yeah, we.
Speaker 5 (06:27):
Were talking quarterbacks.
Speaker 6 (06:28):
I didn't even ask Jason Cole what about the Shawn Watson.
Now he's healthy, is anybody gonna want him?
Speaker 3 (06:33):
He wants him, He's he's in Cleveland. They have to
decide whether they want Yeah, but you gonna you can
get him. Yeah, you'll get him ten cents on the dogs.
Speaker 4 (06:42):
Yeah, but when was the last time he was good?
Speaker 3 (06:44):
Remember, because he took a year off in Houston before
he ended up in Cleveland.
Speaker 6 (06:48):
Right right, I understand that, But I mean, look like
quarterbacks are a hot commodity when you could find one.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
Someone's always got a bad Yeah, but with that baggage
and the fact that he's put a lot of bad
on tape.
Speaker 5 (06:59):
When you don't have to pay three hundred million or
whatever it is, one hundred million dollars for the guy.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
No, but there's still a lot left on the books.
Is Cleveland eating every dime of that?
Speaker 5 (07:06):
And you have though that he's just like Miami will
eat the contract of Tua.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
But even if you if you want to eat that,
I'd rather take my shot that I can figure out
toua than a guy that's been on the sideline because
A he wasn't healthy and B he was not a
good guy.
Speaker 5 (07:21):
Right, No, I I agree with you there. I'm not
saying so much for Miami.
Speaker 4 (07:25):
I'm just I'm.
Speaker 3 (07:25):
Saying in general, I don't think there's many organizations where
you have the ability based on the guy's off field
and is on field. Because what on film has he
shown you in four years that would say that's our guy.
Speaker 5 (07:39):
No, and I understand that.
Speaker 6 (07:40):
But you're also gonna go ahead, and I think it's
gonna be appealing that you're gonna get him for ten
cents on the dollar.
Speaker 5 (07:47):
Then you're gonna save.
Speaker 4 (07:48):
A bunch of money tooth a dollar.
Speaker 6 (07:50):
No, but you understand because I mean, Cleveland's gonna end
up paying all the money for him, so you don't
really have to take a big chance.
Speaker 5 (07:56):
I mean you can get him for like a million
dollars or something.
Speaker 3 (07:59):
Yeah, I look, I'd rather take another chance that can
resurrect Russell.
Speaker 4 (08:02):
Wilson's moon ball. Oh geez, at least I know what
he is and maybe a player and as a and
as a guy. Yeah, right, I.
Speaker 3 (08:12):
Might get in tips, I might have people booing him
at the Garden. But beyond that, it's gonna be He's
a little bit odd and off putting, and maybe his
teammates don't love him. But that's it for Deshaun Watson.
Do I want to bring that in and explore that
to my fan base.
Speaker 5 (08:28):
You probably don't, But I do think some team will
take a chance on him. It's not gonna be clean.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
That's the only place Jimmy has one stuck with the
problem he created.
Speaker 5 (08:38):
Well, I think somebody else will considering they can get
him so cheap, and I bet you can still play.
I mean, he could be a damn good quarterback for you.
Speaker 4 (08:48):
I'll let you make that bet.
Speaker 3 (08:50):
If I'm the if I stand in here as a
long standing member of Fox Sports Radio hot take nonsense aside,
I'm not putting my job on the line for Deshaun
Watson over what he might have been at once upon
a time.
Speaker 7 (09:04):
Right.
Speaker 6 (09:04):
Well, I mean, there's some teams that are desperate for quarterbacks.
So you could start with the New York Jets work
your way up.
Speaker 5 (09:10):
There's there's team.
Speaker 4 (09:10):
Even the Jets wouldn't go down that highway.
Speaker 3 (09:14):
You're right, even the Jets when they did reversal based
on us talking about it, and a back page post
in the New York Post about something we talked about yesterday.
We'll get that after our visit with Todd Furman a
little bit later on.
Speaker 4 (09:28):
But let's go back to JJ Reddick. We were in
the middle of a.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
Conversation a little while ago, and you know, time down
distance ran up against the clock, talking about the effort
the Lakers have been putting up. Certainly defensively, there's no
question about it. But JJ Reddick is at his wits
end after last night's game against the Houston Rockets, and
he let his players know it.
Speaker 8 (09:50):
The two words of the day, we're effort in execution,
and you know, I feel like when we've done both
of those things at a high level, we've been a
good basketball team, and we haven't. We're a terrible basketball team.
And tonight we were terrible that and that started legitimately
right away because we don't care enough right now. And
that's that's the part that bothers you a lot. We
don't care enough to do the things that are necessary.
We don't care enough to be a professional.
Speaker 4 (10:12):
You know, we had it, We had it.
Speaker 8 (10:14):
This is this is I always say this about, you know, culture,
I always say this about a team being a you know,
a good team being a functioning organism. Organism, can it
can change like that? We don't have it right now. Again,
it goes back to what I said the other night.
It's it's a matter of making the choice. And too
often we have guys that don't want to make that choice.
And it's pretty consistent who those guys are. And so
(10:34):
Saturday practice, I told the guys it's going to be uncomfortable.
The meeting is going to be uncomfortable. I'm not doing
another fifty three games like this.
Speaker 3 (10:41):
I could have gone for a couple of uy and
this guy gave me nothing and that guy gave me nothing.
But you know, it's like Reggie Jackson said all those
years ago, fans don't boo.
Speaker 4 (10:50):
Nobody's same thing here.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
By the way, put the captain obvious hat on him
as he's sitting there behind the desk.
Speaker 4 (10:57):
Effort and execution.
Speaker 3 (10:58):
Yeah, those two things in a walk of life usually
lead the good results.
Speaker 5 (11:03):
I look as we brought up a couple hours ago.
I didn't have it. We didn't have a lot of time.
Speaker 4 (11:07):
Oh I didn't.
Speaker 6 (11:09):
Yes, I didn't have a lot of one. I have
no problem with what JJ Reddick said. I know a
lot of people were like, oh, he had no right
to say that.
Speaker 5 (11:16):
If he was going to.
Speaker 6 (11:16):
Call people out individually, then call out people individually.
Speaker 5 (11:20):
No, that's not what that was for.
Speaker 6 (11:22):
That was to say it as a team that they
weren't getting the job done, and as a team they
weren't getting the job done. I think he did a
great job of relaying that to the media and to
the fans.
Speaker 5 (11:33):
So I have zero problem with that.
Speaker 6 (11:36):
I know that people are like, oh, he's gotta he's
a you know, he's got to call name, say Lebron,
you're messing up, or Luca, you're messing up.
Speaker 5 (11:44):
He'll say that to him behind closed doors.
Speaker 6 (11:47):
Doesn't need a camera in his face or a microphone
in his face for him to open up his mouth
and talk to those guys in front of the camera.
Speaker 4 (11:54):
Even though that's just what he did here.
Speaker 5 (11:56):
Well he didn't say the name Mike, you know.
Speaker 4 (11:58):
But but he goes firing Brimstone.
Speaker 5 (12:01):
Here, but he should, that's his job, but not at.
Speaker 4 (12:04):
The media, Like what he's gonna inspire these guys through the.
Speaker 6 (12:08):
What do you want him to do? What do you
want him to say? Well, okay, there's another loss. We'll
just go back and work on the next game. I mean,
he's a fiery guy. Sometimes we like what he says,
sometimes we don't. He was well within his right to
talk like that. I mean, gosh, don't be so but hurt.
If you're a player, he said it exactly right. I
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got no problem with it.
Speaker 5 (12:30):
If you're a Laker fan, you're probably saying he's one
hundred percent right. I'm behind them one. So I don't
know what everybody's getting all upset about mine.
Speaker 3 (12:39):
No, it's roster construction. Look, you go from the top down.
You look at what you have as a roster. You
got fooled a little bit early on with some early
success against some middling team.
Speaker 5 (12:51):
Mike, who are you talking about?
Speaker 6 (12:52):
The Lakers were nineteen and seven until they lost three
in a row.
Speaker 3 (12:56):
So to have lost six of their last nine and
then guys out repeatedly.
Speaker 4 (13:01):
Austin Raves is now gone a month.
Speaker 5 (13:03):
Well that's that's not it, JJ Reddick.
Speaker 3 (13:05):
No, but it's But it's also the you're now the
coach that has to find some answers. Oh, it's not
as simple as hey, you know, what can you try
a little bit harder. Nobody might coach him up because
as a media member, he certainly went and took out
the Leo DiCaprio flamethrower on a lot of coaches calling
him excuse makers or whatever.
Speaker 6 (13:25):
Well, I mean, yeah, it's going to hurt that Reeves
is out one hundred percent and he's probably gonna be
out longer than a month. As I was reading during
the break about injuries.
Speaker 4 (13:34):
Like that, you certainly don't want rushing back.
Speaker 5 (13:37):
Because because it could hurt what your achilles is that.
Speaker 4 (13:39):
What he's right, And we've seen that before.
Speaker 3 (13:42):
Yes, I remember when Kevin Durant had to lay down
on the phat essentially right.
Speaker 5 (13:46):
So that's the last thing you want.
Speaker 6 (13:48):
You're gonna make sure he's one hundred and twenty percent
before you bring him back.
Speaker 5 (13:52):
I don't know.
Speaker 6 (13:53):
Do the Lakers make a trade, Do they go after somebody?
Do you know it's not like JJ Reddick is sitting
in his office right now making phone.
Speaker 5 (14:00):
Seeing who's available. So you know you might have to
do something. You can't be without Austin Ruiz for about
forty five days.
Speaker 3 (14:07):
Yeah, we talked about usage, We talk about defensive effort,
but coming into the year. Nobody expect him to be
able to play defense. You're running out Lebron James and
Luka Danchins on the same five. You're already at a
detriment defensively before the ball's been tipped.
Speaker 6 (14:22):
Get rid of Lebron right now, Bring somebody else in
that's taking on that contract.
Speaker 5 (14:29):
There's a lot of people that would take on the
Lebron contract.
Speaker 3 (14:32):
If you could, like because I have this argument with Smith,
it looks like you're just filling his seat and get
it with the same argument, what contender or any team
of merit is going to trade you three or four
pieces that add up to his fifty three millions?
Speaker 5 (14:44):
Well, you're not getting through. Who said that you're gonna
get three or four pieces?
Speaker 3 (14:48):
No, no, no, But that's what you have to do. You've
got to make salaries match. And the Lakers aren't just
gonna send him away for a bucket of balls.
Speaker 6 (14:54):
No, right, I understand that that you have to make
the salaries match. And that's going to be a problem
if they let me be tell you something, If you
didn't have to get equal in return, there'd be like
the Golden State would be first team lined up to
get somebody like Lebron.
Speaker 5 (15:07):
Why, why are you serious? If you see where Golden
State is even Steve Kerr said their dynasty is over.
Speaker 3 (15:16):
Well, I mean he's a realist, he's your guy. You
might have been listening to the Sunday Show.
Speaker 6 (15:21):
Right, So you gotta do something. You don't think that
Lebron is actually gonna play another year.
Speaker 5 (15:31):
With the Lakers after this year?
Speaker 4 (15:32):
Do you know? I don't.
Speaker 6 (15:33):
Okay, so he's gonna got gotta go somewhere.
Speaker 3 (15:36):
Well, that's fine, that's next year when he's willing to
sign for five million dollars, I'm not trading assets that
are commensurate with what's left on a fifty three million
dollar deal.
Speaker 6 (15:47):
That's right, and halfway through and you go and take
that is you know you could cut that salary in half,
first of all.
Speaker 5 (15:54):
Because it will be halfway through the year, so you want.
Speaker 3 (15:57):
To have to great, But I still have to give
up twenty eight million on the other there's salaries go
change to here, aren't he it's it's apples to apples
when it comes to you got to be within that percentage.
Speaker 5 (16:07):
Well, do some creative math for you and tell you
we'll figure it out.
Speaker 3 (16:10):
But I think we get a center to the Dolphins
as your next quarterback.
Speaker 6 (16:15):
He's he really does have to go because he's hurting
the team. He's slowed him down, and they play so
much better basketball without him on the court the ball.
Speaker 4 (16:24):
And you've watched them the last run.
Speaker 3 (16:26):
Part of the problem also is Luka Danca to where
we start questioning, you know, fitness. Does he need the
extra carriage of pounds or is that better for him?
Was he happier because he's certainly his shooting percentage is
down nearly six and a half percent during this latest run,
and you look at his efficiency numbers are all decided
to lead down Lebron. I mean, people are doing the
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video after video. The Dylan Brooks stuff is just fun.
I mean, you might as well put yak Andy Sacks
behind that. We could play that for days. But the
rest of it is like the lack of effort. I know,
one on one you're gonna get cooked, right, and then
it becomes about health defense. But if you're not even
on that side of the court as your team is
trying to defend a good chunk of the times. Look,
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once upon the time the Lakers had that with Kareem
Abdul Jabar.
Speaker 6 (17:13):
Yeah, doobt they can't get yanis think about what a
team that would be with Luka.
Speaker 3 (17:18):
And the other part is that one of your pieces,
whether you love him or thought he was a chip,
is the guy with the injury in Austin Reeves.
Speaker 6 (17:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (17:28):
Yeah, that changes draft out a lot.
Speaker 3 (17:30):
Of things that you were able to do in terms
of viable pieces. So right now, I understand JJ Reddick's frustration.
It's like when he lashed out at Jams.
Speaker 5 (17:40):
Saying it like that, you know, pointy fingers like that.
Speaker 3 (17:44):
Well, no, I mean have added if you're gonna do it.
But it comes to the all right, you've now put
the target back on yourself too. You've got to be
able to try to coach up the team that you have. No,
but there's no no there who had a target on them?
Then seven, Like to your point, everybody was bowing at
the altar. Clearly he knows what he's doing. Yeah, clearly,
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clearly he's a wizard.
Speaker 5 (18:08):
Three games later, we want to get rid of you.
Speaker 4 (18:11):
Three and six later.
Speaker 3 (18:12):
I mean clearly he's got a very thin skin and
now he wants to fight, so fighting noise going out there,
no question Arnie Spanner at Sticking Genius One find me
over at Swollen Dome.
Speaker 4 (18:25):
We can do this all day.
Speaker 3 (18:26):
Long, but we cannot because we've got Todd Ferman coming
up next. As we continue here, it's Fox Sports Radio
The Jason Smith Show with me My Garmin, Pally.
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Speaker 9 (18:38):
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Speaker 3 (18:48):
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Speaker 4 (18:51):
What are you doing interrupting our promo? Yeah, he wasn't
talking about you.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
You took those clips totally of context.
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Speaker 5 (19:02):
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Speaker 3 (19:26):
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I'm Mike Harmon alongside me the stinking genius himself, Arnie Spanier.
It's the Jason Smith Show with me, Mike Harmon, Arnie
in for Jason Tonight. Coming up in a minute, We're
gonna go to the hotline with our guy Todd Furman,
talking all things Las Vegas, odds and ends.
Speaker 4 (19:47):
As we go.
Speaker 3 (19:47):
Through, Folks starting to chime in with some old man
Winter kind of comments when you talk about Lebron James,
Arnie owing to our last conversation about the Lakers and
where they're going, I'm curious to see where they're at
odds wise and where that wind total is sitting now
with Austin Reeves sideline for at least the next month
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or so, so we'll find out as we effort. Todd
coming up here in a second Bowl games finishing up,
the NBA games for the night finishing, but we get
a couple of Saturday football games along the way. We
got well to tomorrow, right, We've got the Texans. We
got the Chargers in a big battle of the AFC,
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and then we get Snoop Hunley against Malik Willis in
the nightcap.
Speaker 4 (20:33):
For all of this and more, let's head out to Vegas. Now.
Speaker 3 (20:36):
It's our buddy Todd Furman at Todd Furman. Where you
find him. Check out his Twitter page for all of
the particulars of where you can see him. He's got
the pros versus Joe's bit that he does on Instagram.
Give you an idea where the money's flowing and the
betting world. Our guy Todd joins us each and every week.
What's going on, buddy? How are you?
Speaker 10 (20:57):
I'm doing a lot tonight, gentlemen. Hopefully you guys are
as well. The final football weekend, so to speak of
twenty twenty five officially on the horizon.
Speaker 3 (21:05):
Here we go, as we got a couple of games
in the books, some barn burners in the NFL yesterday.
We'll see if we can capitalize. Be curious to see
how many Christmas dinners were spoiled by some of the
play that we saw on a Thursday, including the elimination
of the Detroit Lions.
Speaker 10 (21:21):
You figure a lot of that led to a little
bit of indigestion unless you were an underdog player who
was able to cash eight trio games on the standalone
slate on Christmas. You parlay that with the three underdogs
that covered on Thanksgiving, and apparently holidays are the perfect
time for dogs to get you to the window with
inflated point spreads. Never fall victim harm to the way
Arnie likes to play. If a team is in a
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must win scenario, you feel you have to bet them,
and all opportunities look to go the other way.
Speaker 6 (21:47):
Todd, are you okay with betting a game that has
nothing of value at all like Cardinals Bengals or a
game like that, or.
Speaker 10 (21:55):
What I've bet a bunch of these Bowl games. So
the answers that would be yes. But when it comes
to the NFL Week seventeen and Week eighteen, you're always
looking for some of those matchups. You're trying to identify
which player absences aren't being caught by the odds makers,
and it's not referencing those guys at the skill positions.
You're starting quarterbacks, you're running back to your wide receivers
because that's oftentimes what moves the needle. It's more along
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the offensive and defensive line and where you can try
and clean an edge. And this time of year you
do see some volatility and numbers no greater illustration the game.
We're going to see them primetime tomorrow night. Where amid
speculation that Jordan Love could start for the Green Bay
Packers and we knew Lamar Jackson was listed as doubtful,
that number got its high as five and a half.
Of course we find it earlier today and Milik Willis
is going to go when we're right back at a
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field goal. So it's trying to figure out and evaluate
which teams want to be there, which teams are at
full strength, or in the case of the Giants and
Raiders on Sunday, which team will do everything in their
power to try and lose a football. Yeah, so you're
that number one pick in.
Speaker 3 (22:52):
The draft over on that one still at forty one
and a half. That's optimistic.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
You have to.
Speaker 10 (22:57):
Imagine that if these teams find themselves and fourth and
short and plus territory, you may see more punts from
the thirty five to thirty nine yard line.
Speaker 4 (23:05):
Than have it before.
Speaker 10 (23:06):
But it does beg the question is which team wants
to take things one step further, we've seen the ongoing
game of chess for both of these franchises in terms
of making some key players inactive and in the case
of Max Crosby, protecting the player from himself from NFL insiders.
Yet Fox's very own said, Max Crosby none too happy
about that decision that was made about this by the
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Silver and Black.
Speaker 6 (23:27):
I had no problem with them sending him home. Of course,
they want to lose and there's nothing at stake. I
had no problem with them protecting him.
Speaker 10 (23:34):
I think it sends the wrong message to an organization
when you're trying to build a culture that clearly the
Raiders haven't had in about thirty years, that you need
to go out there and play every game, and when
your leader isn't going to be out there in the
field coming off arguably his best and most dominant performance
of the entire season last weekend against the Houston Texans,
it just sends the wrong message. And it's a player
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that has expressed interest in staying here. But it wouldn't
shock me at all if we'd seen Max Crosby play
his final as a member of the Raiders. If he
can use his leverage to try and get trained to
a contender so he doesn't waste his career at only
twenty eight years of age.
Speaker 3 (24:07):
Todd, do you give us a little bit with the
Packers in terms of the quarterback situation? Willison love as
to the value the Bill's currently a one and a
half point favorite over the Eagles, How do we play
that one? How much do you think it changes if, say,
New England wins in the early window.
Speaker 10 (24:24):
I don't think it'll change much for a Buffalo Bills
team who would love to be able to finally beat Philadelphia,
a team that they've struggled with in recent meetings. But
you do have to wonder how judicious they'll be with
Josh Allen's usage in the game, specifically as a runner,
depending on the severity of that foot injury. You know,
this is a game, guys. We saw Buffalo open as
a full field goal favor, a total shade higher than
(24:45):
where it currently sits, you know, whether or not exactly
opportune this time of year in western New York and
for the first time in a while in a down AFC.
You figure that Buffalo would do everything they could to
give themselves home field advantage. But this is clearly an
Eagles team that I think people have written off a
little bit. And while I'm not sure we see this
number move to Philadelphia as short favor, I can tell
you that professional betters got ahead of it, looking to
(25:07):
back Philadelphia at plus three. And that's why we're sitting
with Buffalo just a modest one point home favorite Orchard Parker.
Speaker 6 (25:12):
You know, Todd, now that I hit the Saints minus
twenty last week, I'm like, now I've got the fever.
I'm like, well, can the Bengals win by twenty points?
Can New England beat the Jets by twenty and blow
them out?
Speaker 5 (25:26):
Do you do stuff like that, Todd? Or is that
just Duke crazy?
Speaker 10 (25:29):
Well, the Bengals can win by twenty, aren't you? They
actually beat the Miami Dolphins by twenty four less boring
at home. I just wanted to make you were you
sure you were aware of that and the Quinn Youers experience.
But look, you're going to get some volatile results this
week and next. So I do think this time of year,
more so in the middle of the season, it makes
a little bit of sense to explore some of those
(25:49):
alternate numbers. Maybe you're trying to make a compelling case
for some of these underdogs to win outright, you know,
by hooker by crook. A lot of these teams aren't
going to quit. We saw that yesterday with the Minnesota Vikings.
It may not have been a picasso in the box score,
but they did everything in their power to play spoiler,
and they get you home at a healthy underdog winning
out right, catching seven and a half. And even in
the case of the Kansas City Chiefs, to play here
(26:09):
or play there, you know, they have an opportunity to
kind of upset a divisional rival, catching thirteen and a half.
So we'll see exactly what we get. But no way,
shape or form, is this an endorsement for me saying
that people should run out and bet them without leftover
Honik or Christmas money on the Jets to beat the
New England Patriots, even though the Patriots are down plenty
of key contributor.
Speaker 3 (26:27):
I gotta say Arnie conveniently forgot the part where he
parlayed that yes, when he retold the story here farly
to a loser.
Speaker 10 (26:35):
Arnie always leaves out key details in some of the stories.
So I know none of us around Fox Sports Radio
unfamiliar with Arnie's creative arithmetic.
Speaker 3 (26:43):
Well, even if you got that first part right, that's
impressive until he said the word I partly did all right.
Looking ahead to the college football playoffs on nine seven,
six and a half, Oregon just a two point favorite.
Speaker 4 (26:56):
Where where's your spin the wheel? Kind of flowing that
force theme.
Speaker 10 (27:01):
I think all these games are fascinating for a variety
of different reasons. So when we're looking at the Ohio
State Miami game, it's a little bit of buyer beware
trying to think that Miami will run it back with
the same level of success they had against Texas A
and m I know, the lasting image we have of
the Scarlett and Gray was the Big Ten Championship where
they look pedestrian an offense, and against this Miami defensive front,
they're going to have to be a little bit more dynamic.
(27:22):
But it's a fast track. No weather in Ohio State
has had a couple weeks to lick their wounds. Let's
see if they come out filled with piss and vinegar
like we saw last year in their first playoff game
against Tennessee and route to winning a national championship. So
I don't want to say Miami is a dog with fleas,
but I wouldn't want any part of the Hurricanes catching
that aggressive number. Oregon and Texas Tech, for me, arguably
(27:43):
the most fascinating but the toughest to try and handicap.
You look at a Ducks team who was much more
dominant than the final score indicated last weekend against James Madison.
Texas Tech very worthy of getting a buye with a
stout run defense, but it's also an offense that has
been known to bog down in the red zone. And
if you're settling for field goals against the team that
should be a little bit healthier offensively, specific in their
specifically in their passing attack. Against Oregon, it's not going
(28:06):
to end well. We'll see if that game gets to
a full field goal. I would anticipate a little bit
of Texas Tech money coming in there. You dig into
the Rose Bowl, the granddaddy of them all, between Indiana
and Alabama. If you were to flip you know the
season long profiles, and Alabama came in with a resume
like Indiana has put together, this wouldn't be a number
that was sitting at six and a half. We'd be
looking more at No. Man's land, you know, flirting with
(28:26):
nearly ten, had a chance to see Alabama in person
with my own eyes, and I'll say one thing, guys,
that was more Oklahoma losing the football game blowing a
seventeen to nothing leads than anything Alabama did. But at
the same time, you dig into Fernando Mendoz's numbers, and
twenty seven of his thirty three touchdown passes this year
didn't exactly come against the heavyweights of college football. So
we'll see if Indiana can run the football and if
(28:47):
a defense that lost the key contributor along that d line,
we'll be able to hold up in the trenches. And then,
of course the SEC nightcap between Georgia and Old Myths,
familiarity between these teams, a game that Old Myths, you know,
essentially had one through three quarters in Athens, and you
can make the case that Georgia was able to turn
their season around. Then, yes, they've trended up defensively, but
I still have some major reservations about this Georgia team's
(29:09):
ability to run away and hide. You did have professional
money came in on the favorite at minus five and
a half six and a half number got out to seven,
and there was a little bit of buyback, So all
four games should definitely be entertaining, and it's what we
should look forward to to have the eight best teams
with the exception of Notre Dame not being invited to
the tournament, having a chance to win the national championship.
Speaker 6 (29:28):
Tons, did you mention there was a lot of buyback?
Any chance late money is going to push those lines
to where Ohio states minus ten, where Oregon's minus three,
and Indiana and Georgia hit that seven mark or is
that too much task?
Speaker 10 (29:42):
It's always interesting, Arnie, when you speculate around those key
numbers where that next move comes in. And I think
all of these games are kind of sitting there. You
do have some six and a half and sevens depending
on the sportsbooks for that Alabama Indiana game. So if
you like the favorite latest six and a half as always,
and if you like the underdog, make a case to
late the seven. Georgia will miss game six and a
half painted across the board, so you can't really shop
(30:03):
around for the best of the number there. My gut
tells me we're going to get to seven on that
game more likely than we will be to sixty to
six and a half, come down to six, and for
that Ohio State Miami game. Look, we're as high as
nine and a half. That's some prominent books out here
in the desert. We're not going to get this game
down to seven. But I could see a scenario where
books you know, are more inclined to move off to
(30:24):
nine and a half, down to nine and let betters
continue to fight it out rather than dangling some of
that bait that could be out there if they were
to get to a secondary key number of ten, which
is absolutely massive with the lowest total in these four quarterfinals.
Speaker 3 (30:36):
He's the best in the biz. Joins us each and
every week. Longtime friend of the show. It's Tod Furman,
CBS Sports, HQ sports Line, as he calls himself, the
part time hack on j On sc and TSN, Underscore Sports,
co founder, former host to bet the Board pod and
of course working at Caesars back in the day.
Speaker 4 (30:57):
It's our guy, Todd Furman. Todd, I appreciate you stopping.
Speaker 3 (31:00):
Happy holidays to you and yours appreciate you being part
of the team.
Speaker 10 (31:04):
Always a pleasure, gentlemen, But this isn't really like a
holiday miracle. It's more like a holiday horror show. Knowing
that I have to do segments with arready twice in
forty eight hours, I'm not sure what contest in hell
I had a win to take on this coool.
Speaker 6 (31:16):
Congratulations, congratulations, Like get that done, my friend.
Speaker 10 (31:20):
Lucky meet Enjoy the weekend.
Speaker 3 (31:22):
Hidrate maybe hydrate. That's Todd Ferman at Todd Ferman. You'll
hear him Sunday night nine to twenty ish Pacific midnight
and Change Eastern on Fox Sports Radio. He and Arnie
and Chris Plank as they wrap up Week seventeen of
your NFL season. But over to the news desk, we
go for another round with our guys Steve de Sager,
(31:43):
as most of these games are starting to come to
a finish on a big Friday night.
Speaker 11 (31:48):
Yeah, everything's final. Clippers took the late game in the NBA.
We'll get to that in a moment. As far as
college football, will have eight bowl games on Saturday, but
the University of Miami will play New Year's Eve against
number two Ohio State at Cotton Bowl Quarterfinal. Oregon faces
Texas Tech in the Orange Bowl Quarterfinal on New Year's
Day in the Rose Bowl Alabama in a quarterfinal against
(32:08):
number one Indiana. The forecast for Pasadena at the moment
the rain holding off until after the parade and the game.
Speaker 4 (32:16):
We shall see.
Speaker 11 (32:16):
It's been a rainy week in the LA area. Ole
Miss will play Georgia in the Sugar Bowl quarter final indoors,
of course, New York New Year's Night, I should say,
as for the earlier college football games, we had Northwestern
beating Central Michigan in Detroit thirty four to seven. Minnesota
won its bowl game in overtime against New Mexico twenty
(32:37):
to seventeen in Phoenix, and in Dallas tonight. Ut San
Antonio was down fourteen to nothing early but won fifty
seven to twenty over Florida International, which on fourth down
conversions went one for ten in this game. Michigan's football
coach is Kyle Whittingham. From Utah the late game in
the NBA to the Clippers winners at Portland one nineteen
(32:58):
one to oh three. Brooklyn Lopez thirty one points from
three point range.
Speaker 4 (33:02):
He was nine for.
Speaker 11 (33:03):
Fourteen at Utah, the game winning shot from Keyante George
with two seconds left to beat Detroit one thirty one
one twenty nine George with thirty one points. Phoenix got
thirty from Devin Booker in a win at New Orleans
Memphis over Milwaukee for the Grizzlies tennisist for John Morant.
The Bulls have won five straight after beating Philadelphia one
oh nine one oh two thanks to a ten oh
(33:25):
run at the end. Joel and Beat thirty one points
in the loss. Miami woned Atlanta despite thirty from Trey Young.
Boston sent Indiana to was seven straight loss, won forty
to one twenty two. Jalen Brown thirty points, his eighth
straight thirty point game. Charlotte was just ten and twenty
this season, but one at Orlando, and Washington was five
(33:45):
and twenty three, but got a home win against Toronto
one thirty eight to one seventeen, shooting fifty nine percent
from the floor. Austin Reeves of the Lakers is out
at least one month with a calf injury. Anthony Davis
of the MAVs due to miss a few games with
the straying groin. College basketball is still on Christmas break.
Most teams resume on Sunday or Monday. Men's and women's.
(34:06):
The NHL was still off tonight thirteen games on their
Saturday schedule, and there are two NFL games on Saturday,
Texans at Chargers and then Ravens at Packers. Green Bay
quarterback Jordan Love will not play Saturday night due to
his concussion. Ravens quarterback Lamar Jackson listed is doubtful with
a bruise.
Speaker 4 (34:24):
Back back to you. Thanks so much, Steve.
Speaker 3 (34:26):
Steve Desager at the News Desk appreciate his work as
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(35:57):
roll deep into the night talking about all's greatness in
the sporting universe. Coming up in ten minutes, we'll revisit
the hiring of a new coach at the University of
Michigan as they try to get past all the chaos
of the last couple of weeks and some would say
the last couple of years, except for you know that
little championship trophy that they pulled along the way. But
(36:18):
we did a story yesterday and we've got a happy update, ye.
And I think it's you and me and the power
of the Fox Sports radio brand that helped take this over.
And Woody Johnson, if you're out there, good don ye
you finally listen to some good advice. Ian Roddy is
a Jets fan. He's with us tonight. Anything you'd like
to say to Woody Johnson while we're on air, and
(36:38):
we know we have his rapt attention. I just I
don't know nothing in particular. I just feel like the
it's just always something with this team. Man, It's just
always something, whether it's on the field or off the field,
there's always some sort of headline. And that's why it
just really discourages you as a fan when it comes
to wanting your organization to make a turnaround and you know,
(37:00):
climb out of mediocrity and stuff, and it's just things
like this showing you like even I don't know, I
was thinking if she.
Speaker 5 (37:06):
Wasn't going to join the team, my friend, it was
like she was.
Speaker 7 (37:10):
Like, if you want your organization to turn the corner
and you know, climb out of mediocrity and stuff. It's like,
obviously it takes time for you to see a change
on the field, but when things like this happen off
the field, it's just like the it's an indicator that
things aren't really changing in the organiza.
Speaker 3 (37:26):
Now let me let me pull it back for those
that missed our our first takeout it yesterday. But Ian's
point is very simple. You got to get the simple
stuff right before you can do the heartestly set. That's
exactly the old crawl before you walk, whatever you want
to do, before you open the mic, and then open
mouth and say things. The Jets have this hundred thousand
dollars kickoff contest. It's Sunday's game, and a woman named
(37:49):
Ashley Castanio Gervasi, who was you know, with her dad
used to watch Jets games, was doing a kicking exhibition
that they add out, you.
Speaker 5 (38:01):
Know, on the it was like a tryout.
Speaker 3 (38:02):
Yeah, well but one of those things where you know,
like carnival games in between you know, sign up for
a credit card and all that crap. And they asked her,
it's like, hey, you know, what's what's your history?
Speaker 4 (38:13):
What are you doing?
Speaker 3 (38:14):
And she said flat out, hey, I was a Division
one college soccer player. I was a goalkeeper, going okay,
But at no point did they ask her whether she
had any other involvement.
Speaker 4 (38:26):
And she's a coach.
Speaker 3 (38:28):
So as this contest is getting closer, and she was
part of a September contest into an October contest, she's
moving on, she's advancing, and now it's for one hundred
grand the grand FINALI this weekend. They said, no, no, no, no, no,
by the letter of the law, by the rules. Because
you're a coach of a high school team, you've done.
Speaker 4 (38:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (38:46):
It was because she was a coach, not a player.
That's what got her. Yeah, which I would think it's
the other way around.
Speaker 3 (38:50):
Yeah, I would have thought as soon as you said, hey,
he's a Division one player, you're done.
Speaker 4 (38:54):
Right, That's how a lot of this works.
Speaker 3 (38:56):
But whatever they need, you need someone to make it
look good, right, because you can't have a bunch of
fifty cent out there throwing first pitches or kicking the
ball you know, waywardly here. You want at least some
level of competition. So yeah, pushed through. So whoever was
the person vetting folks, I got one as quickly as
you could, because you go back to your other part
(39:16):
of your job as part of the promotions team. Now,
eventually she got disqualified. Well, it showed up on the
back page of the post. We talked about it last night.
I know McAfee chimed in on it yesterday and everybody
started screaming, let her cook, like Donna Martin graduates. Donna
Martin graduates, So you go nine oh two one zero
reference as we transcend every decade in our pop culture references.
(39:40):
But now it looks like there's a reversal of fortune
and she will kick after all on Sunday, aren'tie.
Speaker 5 (39:47):
Yeah, the Jets fell to public pressure.
Speaker 6 (39:49):
Good for Woody because I'm glad Woody listened to somebody
and said, you know what, just let her kick.
Speaker 5 (39:54):
I always said to you, I said yesterday, I go,
what's the big deal? It's one hundred grand.
Speaker 6 (39:58):
They probably went ahead, got insurance anyway when you do
contests like this, so it's not like it's money coming
out of his pocket or anything. Just let her kick.
And I'm sure the backlash was just so huge that
he couldn't take it anymore and did a reversal.
Speaker 5 (40:14):
So good for everybody that got behind this shit, though, but.
Speaker 3 (40:16):
It's like as Ian said, it's like, if you can't
get this right, how am I going to expect you
to pick the groceries for what really matters?
Speaker 7 (40:24):
Even he got it right now, So even if like
technically like that, you know, she should have read the rules,
and even if like technically it was against the rules
for her to be kicking, it's just like it's just
not worth the pr storm that this creates, Like just
let her kick.
Speaker 3 (40:38):
Yeah, the money would have gone towards buying her first
house into the Esophageal Cancer Education Foundation, That's what her
father passed from. Jet said the franchise would donate to
the medical cause as well, So it's all's well.
Speaker 5 (40:53):
In the end, Fox Sports could kick a field goal
that long. Brady Quinn leg probably could too.
Speaker 4 (41:00):
Arnie, Yeah for sure.
Speaker 3 (41:02):
Well, I mean you played that three on three game.
Oh wait, that was thirty five years ago. You gotta
listen to the whole show. He's already in for Jason,
I'm Mike. That's Ian at Ian Roddy underscore. As we continue,
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