October 24, 2025 • 41 mins
Jason and Mike open hour 3 recapping the Thursday Night Football matchup between the Chargers and Vikings! Is Oronde Gadsden already one of the best pass-catching tight ends in the league? Was Kevin O'Connell wrong to keep Carson Wentz in the game with the beating he was taking?
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beat the Vikings thirty seven to ten. It was all
Chargers all night. Justin Herbert throws for three times. The
doll runs for one hundred and seventeen yards. Lad McConkie
eighty eight yards and a touchdown, and another big night
for Aronde Gadsden.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
The second don't go trying to make this a SYRACU segment.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
Five hang on five catches seventy seven yards a touchdown.
He is now your tight end fantasy darling the last
two weeks in the NFL five for seventy seven and
a score tonight PPR leagues. That's a nineteen point nin
coming off a nine for one sixty four and one
touchdown against the Colts two weeks ago. Nobody cares about
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your fantasy town. Well here's the find, though, is that
this is that tells me how old I am? Right,
Because I remember not just a Rondez Gadston being in
the in the NFL playing with the Dolphins as long
as he did, But I remember having a Rondez Gadsden
on my fantasy teams. And now you know, and now
I'm getting his son on my fantasy his son a
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box of his dad's cards there in case you guys
don't have to.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
He's laying around for some reason. I do. Oh look,
and he's coming.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
To you know, the three weeks before when he first
got his extended playing time eight for sixty eight, like
just for a second, right to say, a feeling old
Ronda Gadsden is now the darling of the moment. And
then like right after we talked about gads in the
beginning of the show. ESPN put out a big thing.
What a great fine they have at ronde gads not
listening to show much.
Speaker 4 (02:26):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
But Gadsden is someone who and I've been talking to
Frostburg about him for the last few months. When the
Chargers got him out of the draft, look went to
Syracuse came back for his for one more year last year,
which turned out to be the right call for him
staying with Kyle McCord. He is a matchup nightmare. He's
one of those hybrid tight ends that is not He's
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not brock Bowers where he's gonna he can blow you
off the line and then but he's someone that's gonna
line up and I say hybrid. He can make big
plays from the tight you know, from the tight end position.
He could also split him out wide. That's kind of
what Syria you did with him last year. They through
I can't tell you how many fades Kyle McCord threw
to Rondez Gadson where I'm like, okay, this fade out.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
You know, I hate the fade.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
I can't stand it, but okay, if it's Gadsden against
a five eight dB, I feel pretty good about. I
feel pretty good about our train. I feel pretty good
about it. Well, because you're you know, you're just in
the NFL. If you don't believe you could.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
Throw it up higher and you can reach your hand,
Bye will catch it. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
I like the top absolutely, and I knew he was
gonna be good in the NFL. When the Chargers got him,
I said, you got a really good dude. I can't
tell you. I don't know that's gonna take three years,
because usually, you know, you talk about the three year
tight end breakouts, it takes a little while. Like Dalton
Kincaid maybe is on that path right now being in
the league for three years, but I didn't think. I
thought maybe by the end of this year Gadson would
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get some playing time and he turned into a weapon
the Chargers have. But no, it's turned out way sooner
than I thought, because here we are middle of the
season and all of a sudden, it's like this offense
is Maconkey and Gadsden driven. Like it was like Keenan
Allen had a great first te weeks, but really you
don't want to overuse him because he's older and you
don't wanted to run out of steam by the end
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of the season. But now it feels like this this
team is every pass is Mconkie, Gadson, Mconkie, Gadson, Macauk
zero to Quentin Johnston tonight who had no target. Now
you're just trolling zero targets Tonight, which you know if
you had him in fantasy, that really sucks. But uh,
this Chargers offense, uh really has come around. And Gadson's
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been phenomenal, and uh, you know, look, I know the
guys are having big years. We talked about it with
Jay Glazer, right because look, Gadson's great. Don't want to
talk too much about God Syracuse QSCO miss Roonda Gadson.
But maybe, and I can make a great argument for this,
maybe Joe Ault, Chargers left tackle is the MVP of
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the NFL this year because you saw, Hey, they lost
for Sean Slater preseason, Okay, but they still started out great.
This Chargers offense, Harris Hampton was coming on the way
they threw the ball, Herbert was upright, was able to
do justin Herbert things going back like three years and
then all got hurt. And what happened the Chargers struggled.
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You go back to the game against the Giants where
he was hit all the time. Where the Giants defensive line,
which is pretty good. I mean the rest of the
Giants defenses, but the Giants defensive line is pretty good.
And all of a sudden, the Chargers struggled. They struggled
keeping Herbert upright, Herbert, you know, Herbert got hit a
lot tonight the beginning of the game. Like I'm not
saying it was a perfect night. Alt got beat a
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couple of times early, but as the game went on,
this looked like the Charger offense from the beginning of
the season. And Herbert threw for you know, two fifty
and three touchdowns. He looked great. They ran the football great,
they ran behind Alt. There was no no time by
the by the got to the middle of the second
quarter where you thought the Chargers were in danger at all,
Like you talk about the one injury, and look we
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talked about Lamar Jackson. Looks like he's coming back to
play this week and all the Ravens missed him. Well
they kind of stunk with him. So I can't really say,
but the difference in the Chargers from Joel playing to
where they were, which is like wow, they look like
a team that can compete for the Super Bowl to
what happened after he got hurt, which was wow, can
they even keep justin Herbert upright through week ten? To
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now he's back? And here you are against a pretty
good defense thirty seven points on a Thursday night where
everything is clicking and it's such a complete and total effort.
But great, that probably the best overall effort we've gotten
by the Chargers all season. Yeah, I can make a
pretty good argument for Joealt being the MVP. Look at
you then get and started building those sandwich boards and
walking around the boardwalk. Look, Pipkins comes back as well,
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so you get two of your starters that you've been
missing back, so you get some continuity there. Also, you
should talk about the defense. Now we're worried about what
goes on with Derwin James. The long history you and
I have been doing this show together. It's like, hey,
the Chargers' defense look good, and there goes Derwin James,
so anxiously awaiting an update there. You don't like the kid,
but that's not anything that we haven't gone through. The
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Derwin James getting okay, no, no, but but the boy
being and this is where it gets even more interesting. Right,
they made the trade to bring it away from Baltimore.
You get Khalil magg back again. How he's playing after
what happened to his arm. Go back weeks ago we
were on air and we both winced and Grimace doones like,
please don't show that again. Yeah, they're gonna show it
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again and watch how his arm gets bent and everything.
But he's back and playing, and they terrorized once tonight.
Minnesota's offensive line banged up, but you play who's on
the field, and they went and got after it. So
curious to see that side of the ball as it continues.
You had four catches today for Keenan Allen as he
continues to vault up the record books for the team.
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Mcconkey's been a beast the last few weeks. But Gadsden,
right now, fantasy wise, you want to take a guest
to further your little fantasy foa here, Okay, where does
he rank among tight ends after today's game?
Speaker 5 (07:56):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (07:57):
Gads okay, so counting that he gets to play the
one x extra game that everybody else hasn't played yet. Yes, okay,
so he's got no stats up until three weeks ago.
Let's see, so he would have had about just regular
Fantasy points or PPR PPR PPR. Oh well it's oh
it's either half for full we're going full math PPR.
So we probably had about fifteen his first week, he
had about let's see, twenty two, twenty nine. Last week,
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and now tonight he had another nineteen. So so he's
over fifty. He's twenty nine ninety four nine. I would
say he's I would say he is fifty plus points.
I would say he is inside the top twelve for
tight ends. Would you believe he is currently four no
ahead of this weekend's game. So obviously Tucker Draft and
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everybody'll be there. You've got he is fourth right now.
My goodness, oh my goodness, I can't believe a couple
of leagues. I didn't get him in when I knew
about him, and I just couldn't get him. Yeah, actually
he's he's fifty. He's right there with Travis Kelsey's like
point two behind him. Wow.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
I mean, look, we I know he's at sixty four
point eight.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
Couple of big games, but the point being twenty two
catches to over three hundred yards. Now, the last two
weeks he's been huge. Now you're looking at an offense
that's really interesting. Remember once upon a time it was
Keenan Allen and then pray for Mike Williams. Now you
got a full offense and now you've got a complimentary
football thing going on. Will they go and find another
running deck, Yeah they will, they will. They'll have a
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guy behind of the doll because he's a nice find.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
But you have no idea what he's going to be for.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
A long term. Yeah, no, Chargers suddenly got interesting. And
your Joe Alt thing, he's not getting votes, but in
terms of pushing the narrative, because look, Justin Herbert, everybody's
been waiting forever and right now he's making Justin Herbert
the best version of himself, which means, if nothing else,
that's going to get him a nice expensive watch or
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a car or something at Christmas. Now remember, you know,
I don't like to bring this up a lot, but
remember I told you the Chargers go to the AFC
title game this year, and now I felt great about
it the first few weeks.
Speaker 3 (09:59):
Then I was a little was about it. Now I
feel great about it.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
Before they started rolling it up today, And think about it,
if that, hey, I had the cheese no bread. I
just had the cheese from the pizza. It's like having
healthy pizza. Ask Alex Tyshirt, He'll tell you one hundred percent.
If you have just the cheese and you don't eat
the bread, it's like health food.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
That's a stretch.
Speaker 1 (10:22):
You're just eating protein. You just eating protein. It's all
this man straight protein. It's making it's parting pizza into
something that's healthy.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
It's fantastic.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
I mean it's not quite having it with you know,
cauliflower crusts going. Well, now you get the whole gamut
of the experience of you have the cheese and the
pizza and the cauliflower crust, which is like you still
get the crunch of the crust and feels like you're
eating it, but but you don't get any calories. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (10:43):
I just remember to keep your cholesterol checks going as well.
Speaker 6 (10:47):
Though.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
Well, you don't order pizza every day, but you know,
when you have a couple of slices.
Speaker 3 (10:51):
If you do ok to do you can't if you do.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
If you order pizza every day for three months into
a movie about it.
Speaker 3 (10:58):
While doing other things, there's a lot going on.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
I would look like I would look like Ben Stiller
at the end of dodgeball.
Speaker 3 (11:04):
You want something for the ride home. Okay, my milkshake
brings all the boys chicken. But yeah, it's better than yours.
Damn ray, it's better than yours. I could teach you,
but I have to charge.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
But think the dire game changes on a controversial overturn
of an interception return for a touchdown. Think about how
different that ballgame is. If suddenly you're down seven to
nothing and Flores and that defensive line are pitting their
ears back.
Speaker 3 (11:31):
Instead that comes off the board. You're deflated.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
They go down on a long, protractive drive and score
the way the game turned out, as it eventually did.
Speaker 3 (11:39):
The way the game turned out, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (11:42):
I don't know that that just wouldn't have made the
score thirty seven to seventeen. And maybe it would have.
But you know what, we'll never know, because the officials
robbed you. Look if they robbed me of a defensive touchdown,
if it was a twenty seventeen game, or even if
it was like just a two score game where the
Vikings hung close, but once the Chargers started, it's gonna
be the mid midway point of the second quarter. This
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game was done. That Vikings could do nothing offensively all night.
So I don't know that. Yeah, you got that pick six,
and that's great, but that's not going to turn Carson
Wentz into a guy that's gonna start putting points on
the board. I'm up seven games up seven, you're up seven.
The game is a little bit different. But I don't
believe it would have went once you got into end
of the first quarter, into the second quarter, Oh no,
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the Chargers started imposing their will on the game.
Speaker 3 (12:28):
It still would have been a Charger victory. It would
have been less points.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
And maybe it's a twenty four thirteen game or a
twenty four to seventeen game or something like that.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
I would have liked that game.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
Remember the touchdown they had ear that game. I went
American President on you. You know the touchdown they had
in the fourth through. Look, the Charges are hanging back,
they're not playing their same day. They were still getting
at Carson Wentz on every play. So I don't know
that that would have turned the game. It seemed like
in the first half it was a big deal, but
as the game went on, I'm okay with walking away
from that going Yeah, I don't know about that call.
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To Yeah, okay, they didn't. But in the end, how
much it really affect me up? But once I've got
a big lead, it's it's a much different game, right,
That's all. That's all I'm saying, because it was a
play at the time, and it's one of many that
we're asking and raise our hands about the NFL in
terms officiating and how they're calling, ruling over ruling, who's
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getting involved in review process. I don't know that that's
that should have been overturned. Yeah, no, look, and and
and just to to go to be clear on this
with this play, first pass play of the game, justin
Herbert gets picked Rogers grabs it right below below the ground,
but it's ruled that he didn't have control of it
because he kind of grabs it and skips and lands
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on the ground with his hands under the ball, gets up,
runs it in for touchdown. And you know, it's funny
to talk about this on a day where we have
the big gambling scan on.
Speaker 3 (13:47):
Well, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
But I like what I look at now and to
hear the report from a week ago that the what
was it the University of UTEP right, Texas a passo
did a whole study and how the Chiefs got way
more and everybody else, Like, I look at stuff like
that and I go, Okay, I don't look at that
as much as.
Speaker 3 (14:05):
When I see replay and I see that.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
Boy, some plays they're just okay, looking at for a
quick hot second saying yep, calls up, hell yeah, it
goes on. And then there's some plays where I go, boy,
they're really going to the wall to look at every
nook and cranny of this play to see if they
can overturn it. That's where my antenna goes up on
what are we doing here? Because like you see that playing,
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like if that's a normal review, that's here, Okay, the
call in the field is a touchdown, It's really hard
to see where his hand was.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
Was it all the way under the ball? Was it not?
Speaker 1 (14:35):
Like that call on the field kind of had to stand?
Because I'm with you on that that the call probably
should have stood. But I'm like, boy, they really went
to the wall to try to find a way to
overturn it. Why when other plays that seem like they're
they should be looked at even more. It's boy, you
just kind of looked at that very sremptitiously and just
to say, yeah, oh we're gonna go ah, that's up
heelt we're going to moving on second out of ten.
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So that that's what I look at when I say, okay,
maybe this needs to be looked at little bit. Why
do we get so much care into this but not
so much in the.
Speaker 3 (15:06):
Game, you know, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (15:10):
Like, I don't know, I see, but I don't scroll
down all the instances, so like when they pop up,
it's kind of like I see it in Sunday games too.
I've seen it for years. I've seen the Patriots have
plays looked out for them. Boy, they're really looking for
a way to overturn this, to give this Austin Safari
and Jenkins complete the catch touchdown.
Speaker 3 (15:26):
Of the P and L.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
They're really looking for a way to know we've seen that.
But that's I go, why are they going so far
for this call when the call was made this way
on the field, and if the call could go either way,
that's the call that has to stand right If you
replay is meant to be a fail safe and a
catch all to overturn a bad call that's made on
the field right to get the call right, and you
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can look at that and I can say, did they
get it right with the replay call? The best you
can say is, I don't know. In that case, you
revert to the call in the field because the referee
is right there and he saw it right. The best
the best anybody has is the official can see is
his hands under the ball. Where is it right? That's
the best thing you're gonna you're gonna get to look at.
If you can't, if you can't get a different camera angle,
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then you know what. The nut's gotta stand right again.
That's where my intenna goes up when I see that,
and I go, okay, was there a guy wearing Lululemon khakis?
You know, taking a look at the replays of this going,
I like this. I'm gonnattack this replay with a further
unknown de mankind. Oh it was overturned. Give the charges
the football. If he actually used that phraseology, we raise
a lot or lot of red flags right there, but
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all in a resounding victory for the Chargers that did
hit to the over. When it's all said and done
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Speaker 3 (19:30):
But first look, the Chargers.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
Just lay waste to the Vikings tonight and the Vikings
lose thirty seven to ten, and I gotta be honest
with you. Kevin O'Connell, head coach of the Vikings, owes
Carson Wentz a apology. He owes the Vikings in apology
what he did to Wentz tonight, leaving him in the game,
especially late in the last six minutes when they're down
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three touchdowns to absorb hit after hit after hit. When
cle he was injured his arm, which was already kind
of in a big robotic sling. He was hurt all night.
Speaker 3 (20:06):
Like it though.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
He had to leave the game in the second quarter
because he got hit so hard. He tried to stay
in the game, stayed in the game all the way through,
but clearly, look, the Vikings offense was non existent. He
had trouble, he was getting hit. I get leaving him
in the game for a while when the game is there,
but the game is no longer in doubt. It's three
touchdowns midway through the fourth quarter, and Wentz is just
getting absolutely drilled by the Chargers on every play. He's
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getting sacked, he's getting hit when he throws the ball.
And it was tough to watch. I'm going, oh, man,
just get rid of the ball, like what going, Oh wow,
he just got crunched again. It was so hard to watch.
And I couldn't understand why Carson Wentz was still in
the game.
Speaker 3 (20:45):
If it was.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
Close, if it's a two score game, look, I understand,
but you've done nothing offensively all night. It's thirty seven
to ten, Okay, bring your backup in and and and
it's not JJ McCarthy because he's third string, but it
doesn't matter.
Speaker 3 (20:57):
This game is over.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
That was coaching I'll practice tonight by O'Connell leaving him
in the game to absorb those hits and then seeing
him on the bench after he comes out of the
game for the last time, where he was absolutely crying
because he's in so much pain. I'm like, dude, I
get the Carson Wentz is a tough dude, but you
need to protect players from themselves. You need to look
know that you're out for their best interest and to
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protect them. Everybody knows how hurt he is. He's getting up,
you know, they're telling him, dude, Carson's holding his elbow again.
He is grimacing. He's up slow yep, let's run another play, like,
come on, man, at that point, take him out of
the game, do the right thing. Well, it's like, you
can take whatever movie analogy. We run them all, whether
it's the superhero getting bludgeon before the great comeback, which
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maybe Kevin O'Connell was convinced that was gonna happen, or
it's the more likely scenario where I don't know, throw
the damn towel and you got Apollo looking over and going,
don't you do it?
Speaker 3 (21:53):
Don't you do it? I mean, I get it.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
Wentz was gonna answer the bell when he was gonna
keep trying to sling it as best he could take
the hit. Grimace get back up. We're watching him get
crumpled because that offensive line struggled.
Speaker 3 (22:05):
You don't stop this fight, no matter what, no matter.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
What Apollo's last words, no matter what, because that that
offensive line, right, and and I get it.
Speaker 3 (22:15):
You got some some pieces back.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
They were terrible. They they were just overrun by the Chargers.
And once it started going downhill Man, they picked up
ahead of steam. And on every pass play he wasn't
even finishing his five or seven step drop and he
was evading two guys.
Speaker 3 (22:32):
He's gotta come out of the gate. So by the
end of.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
It, like we're watching him and like he's running to
the sidelines, like he's his arms slumped to the side.
Speaker 3 (22:41):
I mean, look, I go.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
I go back to the Bill Parcells philosophy that there's
a difference between being hurt and being injured. Okay, there's
a day. If you're hurt, you can play. If you're injured,
you can't play. Carson Wentz was injured. He wasn't hurt,
he was injured, and still he is out there. I mean,
if you think I'm not lying to you, here's Paul Allen,
longtime Vikings play by play man Vikings Radio Network tonight,
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talking about what happened after one of the last late
hits that Doug illegal but hit late in the game
tonight with Carson Wentz getting hit Chargers Rush five.
Speaker 3 (23:14):
Carson back to pass throws.
Speaker 8 (23:15):
To the left arm was hit as he threw and
it's incomplete Carson very slow to get up.
Speaker 2 (23:22):
His left arm is a complete disaster.
Speaker 8 (23:24):
I mean, with all due respect, I'm not a doctor, obviously,
but I mean how many times do we have to
see him hold his arm and wins some pain and
run off the field.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
So here's Kevin O'Connell, Vikings head coach about why he
left Wentz in the game. This just from a couple
of minutes ago postgame, even though Wentz clearly was injured.
Speaker 5 (23:47):
But we kept on, you know, checking in, maybe getting
Max ready to go. But he you know, you know,
Tyler was coming to me a lot tonight, but every
time he seemed to update me on that, you know,
Carson was uh, you know, he was sore going into it,
and he was able. He took obviously quite a few
hits and and but he was able to you know,
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I asked him multiple times, you know where he was at,
and he said he was good and wanted to keep going.
I know, it did seem like he was, you know,
in pain there a couple of times. A few times.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
That's an absolutle time. That's an absolute load of crap. Oh, coach,
So what Carson Wentz is going to say, Hey, you
gotta take me out. Of course he's gonna say I
want to play. He doesn't know the next time he's
going to play. JJ McCarthy eventually is going to be
the quarterback. So oh, he kept telling me he was okay,
So I kept him in the game. No, this is
where as a coach you have to see it and go,
hey man, it's time for you to come out of
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the game.
Speaker 3 (24:41):
You're done tonight. You're the coach.
Speaker 1 (24:43):
You are absolutely injured. I kept asking you to tell
me he was okay, Like, what do you want me
to be as?
Speaker 2 (24:48):
What do you want me to do?
Speaker 1 (24:48):
I'm only the head coach, I kept asking. He told
me he was Okay, No, you need to make sure
that you are looking out for his best interest and
you weren't. Were you not watching the same game the
rest of us were? Apparently he was the thing. Are
you just buried in your play sheet to the point
where you're not watching the carnage? Because I mean, at
no point in the second like once we got into
(25:09):
the second half and that game started to get distanced, Yeah,
they were just teeing off right and they got Darisaw back,
and that's great. He's playing at seventy five percent or
whatever you want, what number you want to ascribe to,
that right tackled. The right side of their offensive line
is still a wreck. And you watch that all night long,
and they just teed off time and time again. At
(25:30):
some point, you got you gotta throw the towel. You've
got to save it because again, if McCarthy's not ready,
like because that begets the larger question, because I don't
think Max is where you wanted to go long term.
And I saw a bunch of folks I know in
Minnesota that were like, that's what he's there for. It's like, no,
he's not there to be a bleeping pinata. Yeah, yeah, No,
He's there to be the veteran stop gap until your
(25:52):
other guy, your future guy, whatever is healthy and ready
to go. He's not there to be the lamb of
the slaughter so that the Chargers defense can rack up
stats and quarterback hits like they're playing a video game.
Like it's just insane that that we watched that come
to fruition. There were some other quotes from him that
(26:13):
lead me, I just want to read this one. We
got outplayed, we got a coach we did not. I mean,
there are no excuses injury, short week, whatever it is.
That's not in any way, shape or form our standard
of what we want to put on the field. And
we've got, as I told our team, we've got an
opportunity in front of us where we need to own this.
This is not a bury the tape kind of time
for our organization. No, you should be taped, eyelids open
(26:35):
like a damn clock. We're gorge to watch what you
did to that guy that was that was off. That
was coaching malpractice. That's absolutely what it was. And really
if he was a grade school coach or a high
school coach, it'd be calling him to be fire ketch back.
He kept telling me he was.
Speaker 3 (26:47):
He was okay, what do you want?
Speaker 1 (26:49):
So he gets back up, he's staggering towards you said
he was okay? When when when all the stuff, all
the training that I went through to be a youth coach.
You have to go through all the different concussion training
and and and personal training and all kinds of questions
that you have to answer, and modules you have to
watch about what to recognize for injuries and and and
(27:12):
for you know, stuff off the field, you know, safe play,
off the field, trauma. Like, there's all these different modules
you have to pass. And just the fact that they tell,
you know, hey, talking to a player and the player
telling you they're okay, is okay?
Speaker 3 (27:26):
That's not enough?
Speaker 8 (27:26):
Right?
Speaker 1 (27:27):
If you see something, you take that, you take that person.
And obviously we're talking about different stakes. We're talking about
youth sports and soccer and softball versus the NFL. But again,
the game is over. I get it, if it's close
and you really don't want to make them out. I
can see that turning a blind eye to it, because
we see that a lot. But this was there was
no reason, you know, he came back again the steers.
There was no reason that was like a lifetime. He
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came back against the Steelers. That's what Kevin O'Connell would
fight back with.
Speaker 3 (27:54):
Yeah, he came back.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
No, you should be a great result there. Yeah, that
was the guy that was able to move laterally. That
was a guy they didn't have much of a pass
rush getting on him. I mean this is like if
something happens to Carson Wentz, I would sue the Vikings
and I would say, you want be in a.
Speaker 3 (28:07):
Game where I couldn't play man? But he said he
was okay. I know that.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
Like that, like that's the worst that tells me. Kevin o'cotton, dude,
just think for a second. Come about what we've had
this week. Be the latest. Be a human being and
be someone who understands that the game is over. We've lost,
and now you want to make sure you're protecting the
health of your quarter. It's not the super Bowl, right,
it's not the be all to end all. Even then
we still would have that question but as to whether
(28:33):
your backup could find, you know, lightning in a bottle
for a quarter.
Speaker 3 (28:36):
But but we're watching this.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
It's it's week eight, Week seven, Week seven of your
National Football League season. I had a lot of football
to be played, and you don't know that that other
guy's walking through the door. So unless you want to
go to Russell Wilson, you want Carson Wentz up and
around right time now to find out what's trending in
the wide world of sports. And someone who's big phrase
tonight has been big fat zero because of thanks for
(29:02):
cleaning that up for it, because of Quentin Johnson's targets.
Speaker 3 (29:06):
Put him on a milk.
Speaker 9 (29:07):
Carton, a milk carton he's been missing. It is week eight,
fellas of the NFL. It is week eight of the NFL.
In the night where we have the NFL. Honestly, what's
been exciting has been the NBA. We've got a game,
another game.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
The NFL was exciting just because Quentin Johnson, didn't.
Speaker 3 (29:28):
You a while ago? Yeah?
Speaker 9 (29:31):
No, No, great win for the Chargers whom so excited,
but also.
Speaker 3 (29:34):
Big fat zero five guys appear even in the literally right,
it's like, where did everybody go? Now we're efficient with
our offense all of.
Speaker 1 (29:44):
A sudden, No, that's a problem. He's not distributing the
ball well enough, what's talking about.
Speaker 9 (29:49):
I'm serious, I'm serious, But guys, this game between the
Nuggets and the Warriors has been too exciting for us.
Speaker 3 (29:56):
We're losing our voice.
Speaker 9 (29:57):
And only Game one for the Nuggets, Game two for
the Warriors.
Speaker 3 (30:01):
It was back and forth.
Speaker 9 (30:02):
Aaron Gordon hit his tenth three to give the Nuggets
the lead, and then who responds with another three Steph
Curry to tie the game. And just like death taxes
and Nicola Jokic a triple double. That's the only things
you can count on in this world. So they're tied
at one twenty. They just got going in overtime. But
Aaron Gordon has forty five points.
Speaker 3 (30:24):
Again, he is.
Speaker 1 (30:25):
Ten out of eleven from three point right. He started
out making his first eight. That's close to the record.
Speaker 3 (30:31):
I think of the record like in.
Speaker 9 (30:33):
A row without Missy.
Speaker 3 (30:35):
I think I think you're right for the record. Yes, absolutely,
I want to say.
Speaker 1 (30:38):
I want to say Jalen Brunson has the record. I
really want to say Brunton's got the record.
Speaker 3 (30:42):
You're probably right, that sounds right, that could be right.
Speaker 1 (30:44):
Go New York, going New York. O, going New York,
going New York.
Speaker 3 (30:47):
Oh, okay, other game ya okay.
Speaker 9 (30:50):
See in Indiana they went to double overtime. In their
finals rematch, but okay See came out on top one
forty one to one thirty five. Shay Gildes Alexander dropped
a new career high fifty five points to go along
with eight rebounds and five assists. Pascal Siakam was the
one who hit the shot to force ot and ended
with the double double and the lost thirty two points
and fifteen rebounds. When it comes to a couple of
(31:12):
games in the NHL, the Ducks top the Bruins seven
to five. Boston has lost six in a row. Mammoth
outscored the Blue seven to four. Utah has won five
in a row. The King's edge the Stars three to
two in overtime, and the Hurricanes beat the Avalanche five
to four in a shootout. We're almost there, guys. Game
one of the World Series Toronto Blue Jays and the Dodgers.
Toronto is going to have trey Ya Savage on the
(31:33):
mound for Game one, and unfortunate news, there's still no
more details. The Dodgers announced that relief pitcher Alex Vesio
will be away from the teams he deals with a
personal family matter. They did not provide a timetable for
his return. But it can't be good.
Speaker 3 (31:47):
No, he was expecting a child. No, so it can't
be good. All right, thank you very much, you're welcome. Guys.
Speaker 1 (31:54):
On a different note, yeah, big game tonight, the Hurricanes
beat the Avalanche tonight. Teams wore their throwback jerseys. The
Avs wore Nordicuse jerseys and the hurricanescuse or the Nordiak's jerseys,
and the Hurricanes wore the Whalers jerseys, which was so
(32:14):
bleep and exciting. Man, it was so much fun. Yeah,
you were just trying to.
Speaker 3 (32:23):
It's fun, man.
Speaker 1 (32:24):
Oh, it's fun seeing those seeing those old school jerseys
is awesome.
Speaker 3 (32:27):
No, it's a win in all of these sports.
Speaker 1 (32:30):
Expecting to see like ray Alcuccier skating up down the
ice for the nord Ecuse.
Speaker 3 (32:33):
Oh yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (32:34):
The Stasney brothers, they had all three of them, Peter
Marrian Anton.
Speaker 3 (32:37):
Oh yeah they were good. Let's go back in the
way back with Stasny's yeo Stasney. Did we get Forstburg
out there while we're at it?
Speaker 1 (32:45):
Ye for But he was never he was never a Nordiic.
I don't I don't think he was coming. I think,
you know, they think the last go. I want to say,
maybe it was Hobby Boolin, one of the last Nordean
you know me, Hobby, Look you might have.
Speaker 3 (33:00):
I don't know, but yeah, that's all. You're fun tonight
seeing those two forsburg just to the avalanche.
Speaker 1 (33:05):
Never mind the Whalers all running on the ice after
they winning the shootout, only one goal in the shootout.
Speaker 3 (33:11):
Yeah, well, I trying to run away from the go
New York. Goh stuff, Go Hartford, Go Hartford, Go go Hartford,
go hard.
Speaker 1 (33:18):
But we celebrate some mammoth and get some wolf Wolfgang
van Halen going, Oh, you want to hear some mullkeets. Okay,
let's get some mammoth going on. Next, let's play the end.
Let's play the I'm a Mass the acoustic version of
the new young Blood Aerosmith because Steve Martin plays banjo
on it. Okay, how about that, I bless you're Steve Martin.
Let's see Let's hear wolf Gan van Halen first. Let's
(33:38):
see that coming up next, not one but two big
takes on the biggest NBA story of the night. Jason
and Mike. This is Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (33:49):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
pm Pacific.
Speaker 3 (33:57):
This is not Wolfgang van Halen. No, this is Wolfgang.
Speaker 2 (34:02):
It's some other there.
Speaker 3 (34:03):
How about Wolfgang amadaas Mozart Let's Go.
Speaker 4 (34:08):
Sixteen seventy four, wolfgangamadeas Mozart Mary's Constance Waiver sixteen ninety four,
Mozart composes the Magic Flute and sixteen ninety five Mozart dies.
In nineteen ninety three, Arthur and rock singer falcl Records.
Speaker 3 (34:25):
Rock me O the dayas the day is a day.
You know, the Smurfs eventually redid the magic flute.
Speaker 1 (34:32):
Yay, oh here just get a little uh could just
see Tom Halse doing his thing. Very upset Trevor from
the Marvel movies Gandhi, very mad.
Speaker 2 (34:45):
See.
Speaker 1 (34:45):
I feel like I'm being my soul's being taken away,
like I'm in a Harry Potter movie. Now turning to vapors.
The Jason Smith Show with Mike Harmen live from the
Fox Sports Radio series. Actually that was that was f
Marie Abraham. Yes it was not Ben Kingsley. Jason named
the song non. Ben Kingsley is the mandalori.
Speaker 10 (35:04):
This is this is uh e twued in E minor. No, really,
how dare you it tuned in F minor? You unconscious?
Swine it too? It tued in in fort minor? Are
you calling it tude e e t u d e?
This is requiem in D minor K six two six
sequence five licriosa.
Speaker 1 (35:25):
You're fired now, I think this is actually fort minor.
Where'd you go? I miss you? So I feel like
we're drifting towards the duel of the fates if we
let that play out long enough. So let's focus on
this part of the big NBA gambling scandal from today
for a couple of minutes because of all the facts
(35:46):
that we got out, this is just what blows me away. Right.
Chauncey Phillips, Damon Jones, Terry Rosier all caught up in
a big FBI investigation which kind of blew open the
lid on illegal sports gambling. A lot of it involves
players who leaves and money went out on their unders
for prop bets for the for a couple of years,
(36:06):
you know, for a big period. And this is what
the NBA was investigating, right, Okay, So that's mainly what
it is for Terry Rozier or some other people. But
this Chauncey Billups thing is just I was blown away
by this. Now, Chauncey Billups is not involved in this
to the extent where he was giving out information about
games or players being hurt, but he is accused of
(36:28):
using his celebrity to lure people into playing in poker
games that were rigged by the mafia. Okay, the Banano
Gambino Luczy, and I don't think Joey Lukesey is involved
picturing in Major League Baseball and Genevieve's crime families. So
the biggest crime fantasy yea in the United States were
involved in this. Now what is it? The organizers allegedly
(36:50):
used sophisticated cheating technologies, including shuffling machines that could read
the cards in the deck, poker chip trays with hidden cameras,
special contact lenses and glasses that could read pre marked cards,
and an X ray table that could read cards face
down on the table. And Chauncey Billups and Damon Jones
(37:13):
were hey, play, hey, come play in this game with
Chauncey Billups Damon Jones, and they paid Chauncey billups at
think fifty grand to come in because hey, big rollers
want to community host, you play with NBA stars and
everything else. I Meanwhile, these guys would get taken for
their money and after it was over once the quote
fish lost in these games, the mafia used extortion and
(37:33):
violence to make sure they paid their gambling debts. This
is straight out of a movie. Oh yeah, this is
way more sophisticated.
Speaker 3 (37:40):
That's I mean.
Speaker 1 (37:40):
I mean X ray tables that can read the card
face down right, poker chip trays that got hidden cameras
in them. Like this is this is way past like
what I've seen in the first season of Sneaky Pete
in any of The Oceans movies, Like this is like, hey,
you have the You thought Hollywood was good, No, we
got Hollywood beat with what we got going on. Oh
what's great is you and I were talking about like
the different lingo go back to Ocean's Well, we can
(38:03):
we run this all. We're gonna need a Jim Brown
and Ella fitz Jails always like all of these different
phraseologies here. It's like, hey, just get that X ray table.
Look a We're gonna run two brothers and a stranger. No,
how about a Miami miracle. No, we di don't have
the people for that. All right, how about how about
an LA confidential? You think we can put the scratch
together in the next couple of days, in forty eight hours,
(38:23):
I'll call somebody, right, all all of those great terms,
and you're trying to do the It's it's like calling
an NFL play right, thirteen personnel versus twelve personnel run
fifty nine A look, how about a sixty five toss
power trap.
Speaker 3 (38:37):
No, we have no time we need we need a
blocking tight end there, we don't have enough guys.
Speaker 1 (38:40):
We gotta Texas two step. How about a Micah Parsons trade. No,
we can't run any of those.
Speaker 3 (38:45):
Wow, now you dragged Jerry Jones into it all. Can
we run a Harmon purple shorts? No?
Speaker 1 (38:52):
No, no, not not not not south of not south
of the Mason Dixon life.
Speaker 3 (38:57):
No, you're not rich enough for that. No, no, in
the south.
Speaker 1 (39:01):
Really just an amazing run. Here from the Trailblazers coaches
former coach coach at exile. Here's his attorney, Chris Ayward.
He would anyone who knows Chauncey Billups knows he's a
man of integrity. Men of integrity do not cheat and
defraud others. To believe that Chauncey Billups did with the
federal government is accusing him of is to believe that
(39:23):
he would risk his Hall of Fame, legacy, his reputation,
and his freedom. He would not jeopardy aze those things
for anything, let alone a card game.
Speaker 6 (39:32):
Man.
Speaker 1 (39:33):
Now, this was eighteen months, a lot of lot of
investigatory work done here. The NBA said they looked into
things and pushed it aside. So there's some questions there.
Speaker 3 (39:46):
Sure we haven't.
Speaker 1 (39:47):
We haven't done the deep dib on that, because that
would be like, all right, what information did you have?
Because if you had literally all the cards on see
now I can't even run the gambling. He got all
the cards on the table in front of him. Just
you can't read. Then we wanna know you got the
mark cards. They we run in a northern Michigan bridge. No,
can't run that. Okay, that's great, all right, that's fine.
(40:08):
If Adam Silver gave a press conference and started using
those terms about a Saskatchewan side step, no nor people
went to presty legal in fourteen states.
Speaker 3 (40:17):
But you know the one thing I.
Speaker 1 (40:18):
Will say this is that for all of the potential
talk that oh tip of the iceberg, there's more coming,
There'll be more investigations coming. But if this was what
was unearthed after this long an investigation, I feel pretty
good that the because you know that they're out to
get the NBA, right, want to get the NBA and.
Speaker 3 (40:34):
Get there, we got to get sports. Whant it gets more?
Speaker 1 (40:37):
I think I feel pretty confident that they found when
they found everything that was out there, and the next
time we hear about investigating maybe a few months from now,
another year and a half from now, and they look
into whatever is happening as far as gambling goes. But
I feel pretty good that that this is what they
found and this is something that the NBA will Okay,
we'll deal that, We'll move on, yes, Seah, I don't
(40:58):
want to go deep down the full hats that are
out there going you know, hey, it's because of this guy,
that guy, the other guy, five guys being critical of
the administration, Like okay, you could you could take that
if you want. But if they uncovered wrongdoing, did they
do wrong?
Speaker 8 (41:15):
Right?
Speaker 3 (41:15):
Did the government do wrong? In this case?
Speaker 1 (41:17):
If they actually found something because that's what if you
go parse through the noise you've heard today, that's some
of it.
Speaker 3 (41:23):
It's like, why don't they leave us alone?
Speaker 1 (41:25):
Like no, no, they found stuff, they found stuff, But
I feel good that they found all the stuff. Like
if this kind of investigation, like it's not going to
be suddenly where we're getting this this is the first
of many. It just seems you'd wait for all of
it and bring it out at once, as opposed to
scraps just because it's the beginning of the season. I
don't think you just go for just the short term.
(41:46):
Special guests from Vegas joining us next to the latest
on this story.
Speaker 3 (41:50):
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beat the Vikings thirty seven to ten. It was all
Chargers all night. Justin Herbert throws for three times. The
doll runs for one hundred and seventeen yards. Lad McConkie
eighty eight yards and a touchdown, and another big night
for Aronde Gadsden.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
The second don't go trying to make this a SYRACU segment.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
Five hang on five catches seventy seven yards a touchdown.
He is now your tight end fantasy darling the last
two weeks in the NFL five for seventy seven and
a score tonight PPR leagues. That's a nineteen point nin
coming off a nine for one sixty four and one
touchdown against the Colts two weeks ago. Nobody cares about
(01:36):
your fantasy town. Well here's the find, though, is that
this is that tells me how old I am? Right,
Because I remember not just a Rondez Gadston being in
the in the NFL playing with the Dolphins as long
as he did, But I remember having a Rondez Gadsden
on my fantasy teams. And now you know, and now
I'm getting his son on my fantasy his son a
(02:00):
box of his dad's cards there in case you guys
don't have to.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
He's laying around for some reason. I do. Oh look,
and he's coming.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
To you know, the three weeks before when he first
got his extended playing time eight for sixty eight, like
just for a second, right to say, a feeling old
Ronda Gadsden is now the darling of the moment. And
then like right after we talked about gads in the
beginning of the show. ESPN put out a big thing.
What a great fine they have at ronde gads not
listening to show much.
Speaker 4 (02:26):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
But Gadsden is someone who and I've been talking to
Frostburg about him for the last few months. When the
Chargers got him out of the draft, look went to
Syracuse came back for his for one more year last year,
which turned out to be the right call for him
staying with Kyle McCord. He is a matchup nightmare. He's
one of those hybrid tight ends that is not He's
(02:48):
not brock Bowers where he's gonna he can blow you
off the line and then but he's someone that's gonna
line up and I say hybrid. He can make big
plays from the tight you know, from the tight end position.
He could also split him out wide. That's kind of
what Syria you did with him last year. They through
I can't tell you how many fades Kyle McCord threw
to Rondez Gadson where I'm like, okay, this fade out.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
You know, I hate the fade.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
I can't stand it, but okay, if it's Gadsden against
a five eight dB, I feel pretty good about. I
feel pretty good about our train. I feel pretty good
about it. Well, because you're you know, you're just in
the NFL. If you don't believe you could.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
Throw it up higher and you can reach your hand,
Bye will catch it. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
I like the top absolutely, and I knew he was
gonna be good in the NFL. When the Chargers got him,
I said, you got a really good dude. I can't
tell you. I don't know that's gonna take three years,
because usually, you know, you talk about the three year
tight end breakouts, it takes a little while. Like Dalton
Kincaid maybe is on that path right now being in
the league for three years, but I didn't think. I
thought maybe by the end of this year Gadson would
(03:45):
get some playing time and he turned into a weapon
the Chargers have. But no, it's turned out way sooner
than I thought, because here we are middle of the
season and all of a sudden, it's like this offense
is Maconkey and Gadsden driven. Like it was like Keenan
Allen had a great first te weeks, but really you
don't want to overuse him because he's older and you
don't wanted to run out of steam by the end
(04:06):
of the season. But now it feels like this this
team is every pass is Mconkie, Gadson, Mconkie, Gadson, Macauk
zero to Quentin Johnston tonight who had no target. Now
you're just trolling zero targets Tonight, which you know if
you had him in fantasy, that really sucks. But uh,
this Chargers offense, uh really has come around. And Gadson's
(04:28):
been phenomenal, and uh, you know, look, I know the
guys are having big years. We talked about it with
Jay Glazer, right because look, Gadson's great. Don't want to
talk too much about God Syracuse QSCO miss Roonda Gadson.
But maybe, and I can make a great argument for this,
maybe Joe Ault, Chargers left tackle is the MVP of
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the NFL this year because you saw, Hey, they lost
for Sean Slater preseason, Okay, but they still started out great.
This Chargers offense, Harris Hampton was coming on the way
they threw the ball, Herbert was upright, was able to
do justin Herbert things going back like three years and
then all got hurt. And what happened the Chargers struggled.
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You go back to the game against the Giants where
he was hit all the time. Where the Giants defensive line,
which is pretty good. I mean the rest of the
Giants defenses, but the Giants defensive line is pretty good.
And all of a sudden, the Chargers struggled. They struggled
keeping Herbert upright, Herbert, you know, Herbert got hit a
lot tonight the beginning of the game. Like I'm not
saying it was a perfect night. Alt got beat a
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couple of times early, but as the game went on,
this looked like the Charger offense from the beginning of
the season. And Herbert threw for you know, two fifty
and three touchdowns. He looked great. They ran the football great,
they ran behind Alt. There was no no time by
the by the got to the middle of the second
quarter where you thought the Chargers were in danger at all,
Like you talk about the one injury, and look we
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talked about Lamar Jackson. Looks like he's coming back to
play this week and all the Ravens missed him. Well
they kind of stunk with him. So I can't really say,
but the difference in the Chargers from Joel playing to
where they were, which is like wow, they look like
a team that can compete for the Super Bowl to
what happened after he got hurt, which was wow, can
they even keep justin Herbert upright through week ten? To
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now he's back? And here you are against a pretty
good defense thirty seven points on a Thursday night where
everything is clicking and it's such a complete and total effort.
But great, that probably the best overall effort we've gotten
by the Chargers all season. Yeah, I can make a
pretty good argument for Joealt being the MVP. Look at
you then get and started building those sandwich boards and
walking around the boardwalk. Look, Pipkins comes back as well,
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so you get two of your starters that you've been
missing back, so you get some continuity there. Also, you
should talk about the defense. Now we're worried about what
goes on with Derwin James. The long history you and
I have been doing this show together. It's like, hey,
the Chargers' defense look good, and there goes Derwin James,
so anxiously awaiting an update there. You don't like the kid,
but that's not anything that we haven't gone through. The
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Derwin James getting okay, no, no, but but the boy
being and this is where it gets even more interesting. Right,
they made the trade to bring it away from Baltimore.
You get Khalil magg back again. How he's playing after
what happened to his arm. Go back weeks ago we
were on air and we both winced and Grimace doones like,
please don't show that again. Yeah, they're gonna show it
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again and watch how his arm gets bent and everything.
But he's back and playing, and they terrorized once tonight.
Minnesota's offensive line banged up, but you play who's on
the field, and they went and got after it. So
curious to see that side of the ball as it continues.
You had four catches today for Keenan Allen as he
continues to vault up the record books for the team.
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Mcconkey's been a beast the last few weeks. But Gadsden,
right now, fantasy wise, you want to take a guest
to further your little fantasy foa here, Okay, where does
he rank among tight ends after today's game?
Speaker 5 (07:56):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (07:57):
Gads okay, so counting that he gets to play the
one x extra game that everybody else hasn't played yet. Yes, okay,
so he's got no stats up until three weeks ago.
Let's see, so he would have had about just regular
Fantasy points or PPR PPR PPR. Oh well it's oh
it's either half for full we're going full math PPR.
So we probably had about fifteen his first week, he
had about let's see, twenty two, twenty nine. Last week,
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and now tonight he had another nineteen. So so he's
over fifty. He's twenty nine ninety four nine. I would
say he's I would say he is fifty plus points.
I would say he is inside the top twelve for
tight ends. Would you believe he is currently four no
ahead of this weekend's game. So obviously Tucker Draft and
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everybody'll be there. You've got he is fourth right now.
My goodness, oh my goodness, I can't believe a couple
of leagues. I didn't get him in when I knew
about him, and I just couldn't get him. Yeah, actually
he's he's fifty. He's right there with Travis Kelsey's like
point two behind him. Wow.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
I mean, look, we I know he's at sixty four
point eight.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
Couple of big games, but the point being twenty two
catches to over three hundred yards. Now, the last two
weeks he's been huge. Now you're looking at an offense
that's really interesting. Remember once upon a time it was
Keenan Allen and then pray for Mike Williams. Now you
got a full offense and now you've got a complimentary
football thing going on. Will they go and find another
running deck, Yeah they will, they will. They'll have a
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guy behind of the doll because he's a nice find.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
But you have no idea what he's going to be for.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
A long term. Yeah, no, Chargers suddenly got interesting. And
your Joe Alt thing, he's not getting votes, but in
terms of pushing the narrative, because look, Justin Herbert, everybody's
been waiting forever and right now he's making Justin Herbert
the best version of himself, which means, if nothing else,
that's going to get him a nice expensive watch or
(09:49):
a car or something at Christmas. Now remember, you know,
I don't like to bring this up a lot, but
remember I told you the Chargers go to the AFC
title game this year, and now I felt great about
it the first few weeks.
Speaker 3 (09:59):
Then I was a little was about it. Now I
feel great about it.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
Before they started rolling it up today, And think about it,
if that, hey, I had the cheese no bread. I
just had the cheese from the pizza. It's like having
healthy pizza. Ask Alex Tyshirt, He'll tell you one hundred percent.
If you have just the cheese and you don't eat
the bread, it's like health food.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
That's a stretch.
Speaker 1 (10:22):
You're just eating protein. You just eating protein. It's all
this man straight protein. It's making it's parting pizza into
something that's healthy.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
It's fantastic.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
I mean it's not quite having it with you know,
cauliflower crusts going. Well, now you get the whole gamut
of the experience of you have the cheese and the
pizza and the cauliflower crust, which is like you still
get the crunch of the crust and feels like you're
eating it, but but you don't get any calories. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (10:43):
I just remember to keep your cholesterol checks going as well.
Speaker 6 (10:47):
Though.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
Well, you don't order pizza every day, but you know,
when you have a couple of slices.
Speaker 3 (10:51):
If you do ok to do you can't if you do.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
If you order pizza every day for three months into
a movie about it.
Speaker 3 (10:58):
While doing other things, there's a lot going on.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
I would look like I would look like Ben Stiller
at the end of dodgeball.
Speaker 3 (11:04):
You want something for the ride home. Okay, my milkshake
brings all the boys chicken. But yeah, it's better than yours.
Damn ray, it's better than yours. I could teach you,
but I have to charge.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
But think the dire game changes on a controversial overturn
of an interception return for a touchdown. Think about how
different that ballgame is. If suddenly you're down seven to
nothing and Flores and that defensive line are pitting their
ears back.
Speaker 3 (11:31):
Instead that comes off the board. You're deflated.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
They go down on a long, protractive drive and score
the way the game turned out, as it eventually did.
Speaker 3 (11:39):
The way the game turned out, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (11:42):
I don't know that that just wouldn't have made the
score thirty seven to seventeen. And maybe it would have.
But you know what, we'll never know, because the officials
robbed you. Look if they robbed me of a defensive touchdown,
if it was a twenty seventeen game, or even if
it was like just a two score game where the
Vikings hung close, but once the Chargers started, it's gonna
be the mid midway point of the second quarter. This
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game was done. That Vikings could do nothing offensively all night.
So I don't know that. Yeah, you got that pick six,
and that's great, but that's not going to turn Carson
Wentz into a guy that's gonna start putting points on
the board. I'm up seven games up seven, you're up seven.
The game is a little bit different. But I don't
believe it would have went once you got into end
of the first quarter, into the second quarter, Oh no,
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the Chargers started imposing their will on the game.
Speaker 3 (12:28):
It still would have been a Charger victory. It would
have been less points.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
And maybe it's a twenty four thirteen game or a
twenty four to seventeen game or something like that.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
I would have liked that game.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
Remember the touchdown they had ear that game. I went
American President on you. You know the touchdown they had
in the fourth through. Look, the Charges are hanging back,
they're not playing their same day. They were still getting
at Carson Wentz on every play. So I don't know
that that would have turned the game. It seemed like
in the first half it was a big deal, but
as the game went on, I'm okay with walking away
from that going Yeah, I don't know about that call.
(12:58):
To Yeah, okay, they didn't. But in the end, how
much it really affect me up? But once I've got
a big lead, it's it's a much different game, right,
That's all. That's all I'm saying, because it was a
play at the time, and it's one of many that
we're asking and raise our hands about the NFL in
terms officiating and how they're calling, ruling over ruling, who's
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getting involved in review process. I don't know that that's
that should have been overturned. Yeah, no, look, and and
and just to to go to be clear on this
with this play, first pass play of the game, justin
Herbert gets picked Rogers grabs it right below below the ground,
but it's ruled that he didn't have control of it
because he kind of grabs it and skips and lands
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on the ground with his hands under the ball, gets up,
runs it in for touchdown. And you know, it's funny
to talk about this on a day where we have
the big gambling scan on.
Speaker 3 (13:47):
Well, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
But I like what I look at now and to
hear the report from a week ago that the what
was it the University of UTEP right, Texas a passo
did a whole study and how the Chiefs got way
more and everybody else, Like, I look at stuff like
that and I go, Okay, I don't look at that
as much as.
Speaker 3 (14:05):
When I see replay and I see that.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
Boy, some plays they're just okay, looking at for a
quick hot second saying yep, calls up, hell yeah, it
goes on. And then there's some plays where I go, boy,
they're really going to the wall to look at every
nook and cranny of this play to see if they
can overturn it. That's where my antenna goes up on
what are we doing here? Because like you see that playing,
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like if that's a normal review, that's here, Okay, the
call in the field is a touchdown, It's really hard
to see where his hand was.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
Was it all the way under the ball? Was it not?
Speaker 1 (14:35):
Like that call on the field kind of had to stand?
Because I'm with you on that that the call probably
should have stood. But I'm like, boy, they really went
to the wall to try to find a way to
overturn it. Why when other plays that seem like they're
they should be looked at even more. It's boy, you
just kind of looked at that very sremptitiously and just
to say, yeah, oh we're gonna go ah, that's up
heelt we're going to moving on second out of ten.
(14:57):
So that that's what I look at when I say, okay,
maybe this needs to be looked at little bit. Why
do we get so much care into this but not
so much in the.
Speaker 3 (15:06):
Game, you know, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (15:10):
Like, I don't know, I see, but I don't scroll
down all the instances, so like when they pop up,
it's kind of like I see it in Sunday games too.
I've seen it for years. I've seen the Patriots have
plays looked out for them. Boy, they're really looking for
a way to overturn this, to give this Austin Safari
and Jenkins complete the catch touchdown.
Speaker 3 (15:26):
Of the P and L.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
They're really looking for a way to know we've seen that.
But that's I go, why are they going so far
for this call when the call was made this way
on the field, and if the call could go either way,
that's the call that has to stand right If you
replay is meant to be a fail safe and a
catch all to overturn a bad call that's made on
the field right to get the call right, and you
(15:48):
can look at that and I can say, did they
get it right with the replay call? The best you
can say is, I don't know. In that case, you
revert to the call in the field because the referee
is right there and he saw it right. The best
the best anybody has is the official can see is
his hands under the ball. Where is it right? That's
the best thing you're gonna you're gonna get to look at.
If you can't, if you can't get a different camera angle,
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then you know what. The nut's gotta stand right again.
That's where my intenna goes up when I see that,
and I go, okay, was there a guy wearing Lululemon khakis?
You know, taking a look at the replays of this going,
I like this. I'm gonnattack this replay with a further
unknown de mankind. Oh it was overturned. Give the charges
the football. If he actually used that phraseology, we raise
a lot or lot of red flags right there, but
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all in a resounding victory for the Chargers that did
hit to the over. When it's all said and done
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Speaker 3 (19:30):
But first look, the Chargers.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
Just lay waste to the Vikings tonight and the Vikings
lose thirty seven to ten, and I gotta be honest
with you. Kevin O'Connell, head coach of the Vikings, owes
Carson Wentz a apology. He owes the Vikings in apology
what he did to Wentz tonight, leaving him in the game,
especially late in the last six minutes when they're down
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three touchdowns to absorb hit after hit after hit. When
cle he was injured his arm, which was already kind
of in a big robotic sling. He was hurt all night.
Speaker 3 (20:06):
Like it though.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
He had to leave the game in the second quarter
because he got hit so hard. He tried to stay
in the game, stayed in the game all the way through,
but clearly, look, the Vikings offense was non existent. He
had trouble, he was getting hit. I get leaving him
in the game for a while when the game is there,
but the game is no longer in doubt. It's three
touchdowns midway through the fourth quarter, and Wentz is just
getting absolutely drilled by the Chargers on every play. He's
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getting sacked, he's getting hit when he throws the ball.
And it was tough to watch. I'm going, oh, man,
just get rid of the ball, like what going, Oh wow,
he just got crunched again. It was so hard to watch.
And I couldn't understand why Carson Wentz was still in
the game.
Speaker 3 (20:45):
If it was.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
Close, if it's a two score game, look, I understand,
but you've done nothing offensively all night. It's thirty seven
to ten, Okay, bring your backup in and and and
it's not JJ McCarthy because he's third string, but it
doesn't matter.
Speaker 3 (20:57):
This game is over.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
That was coaching I'll practice tonight by O'Connell leaving him
in the game to absorb those hits and then seeing
him on the bench after he comes out of the
game for the last time, where he was absolutely crying
because he's in so much pain. I'm like, dude, I
get the Carson Wentz is a tough dude, but you
need to protect players from themselves. You need to look
know that you're out for their best interest and to
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protect them. Everybody knows how hurt he is. He's getting up,
you know, they're telling him, dude, Carson's holding his elbow again.
He is grimacing. He's up slow yep, let's run another play, like,
come on, man, at that point, take him out of
the game, do the right thing. Well, it's like, you
can take whatever movie analogy. We run them all, whether
it's the superhero getting bludgeon before the great comeback, which
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maybe Kevin O'Connell was convinced that was gonna happen, or
it's the more likely scenario where I don't know, throw
the damn towel and you got Apollo looking over and going,
don't you do it?
Speaker 3 (21:53):
Don't you do it? I mean, I get it.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
Wentz was gonna answer the bell when he was gonna
keep trying to sling it as best he could take
the hit. Grimace get back up. We're watching him get
crumpled because that offensive line struggled.
Speaker 3 (22:05):
You don't stop this fight, no matter what, no matter.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
What Apollo's last words, no matter what, because that that
offensive line, right, and and I get it.
Speaker 3 (22:15):
You got some some pieces back.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
They were terrible. They they were just overrun by the Chargers.
And once it started going downhill Man, they picked up
ahead of steam. And on every pass play he wasn't
even finishing his five or seven step drop and he
was evading two guys.
Speaker 3 (22:32):
He's gotta come out of the gate. So by the
end of.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
It, like we're watching him and like he's running to
the sidelines, like he's his arms slumped to the side.
Speaker 3 (22:41):
I mean, look, I go.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
I go back to the Bill Parcells philosophy that there's
a difference between being hurt and being injured. Okay, there's
a day. If you're hurt, you can play. If you're injured,
you can't play. Carson Wentz was injured. He wasn't hurt,
he was injured, and still he is out there. I mean,
if you think I'm not lying to you, here's Paul Allen,
longtime Vikings play by play man Vikings Radio Network tonight,
(23:05):
talking about what happened after one of the last late
hits that Doug illegal but hit late in the game
tonight with Carson Wentz getting hit Chargers Rush five.
Speaker 3 (23:14):
Carson back to pass throws.
Speaker 8 (23:15):
To the left arm was hit as he threw and
it's incomplete Carson very slow to get up.
Speaker 2 (23:22):
His left arm is a complete disaster.
Speaker 8 (23:24):
I mean, with all due respect, I'm not a doctor, obviously,
but I mean how many times do we have to
see him hold his arm and wins some pain and
run off the field.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
So here's Kevin O'Connell, Vikings head coach about why he
left Wentz in the game. This just from a couple
of minutes ago postgame, even though Wentz clearly was injured.
Speaker 5 (23:47):
But we kept on, you know, checking in, maybe getting
Max ready to go. But he you know, you know,
Tyler was coming to me a lot tonight, but every
time he seemed to update me on that, you know,
Carson was uh, you know, he was sore going into it,
and he was able. He took obviously quite a few
hits and and but he was able to you know,
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I asked him multiple times, you know where he was at,
and he said he was good and wanted to keep going.
I know, it did seem like he was, you know,
in pain there a couple of times. A few times.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
That's an absolutle time. That's an absolute load of crap. Oh, coach,
So what Carson Wentz is going to say, Hey, you
gotta take me out. Of course he's gonna say I
want to play. He doesn't know the next time he's
going to play. JJ McCarthy eventually is going to be
the quarterback. So oh, he kept telling me he was okay,
So I kept him in the game. No, this is
where as a coach you have to see it and go,
hey man, it's time for you to come out of
(24:41):
the game.
Speaker 3 (24:41):
You're done tonight. You're the coach.
Speaker 1 (24:43):
You are absolutely injured. I kept asking you to tell
me he was okay, Like, what do you want me
to be as?
Speaker 2 (24:48):
What do you want me to do?
Speaker 1 (24:48):
I'm only the head coach, I kept asking. He told
me he was Okay, No, you need to make sure
that you are looking out for his best interest and
you weren't. Were you not watching the same game the
rest of us were? Apparently he was the thing. Are
you just buried in your play sheet to the point
where you're not watching the carnage? Because I mean, at
no point in the second like once we got into
(25:09):
the second half and that game started to get distanced, Yeah,
they were just teeing off right and they got Darisaw back,
and that's great. He's playing at seventy five percent or
whatever you want, what number you want to ascribe to,
that right tackled. The right side of their offensive line
is still a wreck. And you watch that all night long,
and they just teed off time and time again. At
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some point, you got you gotta throw the towel. You've
got to save it because again, if McCarthy's not ready,
like because that begets the larger question, because I don't
think Max is where you wanted to go long term.
And I saw a bunch of folks I know in
Minnesota that were like, that's what he's there for. It's like, no,
he's not there to be a bleeping pinata. Yeah, yeah, No,
He's there to be the veteran stop gap until your
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other guy, your future guy, whatever is healthy and ready
to go. He's not there to be the lamb of
the slaughter so that the Chargers defense can rack up
stats and quarterback hits like they're playing a video game.
Like it's just insane that that we watched that come
to fruition. There were some other quotes from him that
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lead me, I just want to read this one. We
got outplayed, we got a coach we did not. I mean,
there are no excuses injury, short week, whatever it is.
That's not in any way, shape or form our standard
of what we want to put on the field. And
we've got, as I told our team, we've got an
opportunity in front of us where we need to own this.
This is not a bury the tape kind of time
for our organization. No, you should be taped, eyelids open
(26:35):
like a damn clock. We're gorge to watch what you
did to that guy that was that was off. That
was coaching malpractice. That's absolutely what it was. And really
if he was a grade school coach or a high
school coach, it'd be calling him to be fire ketch back.
He kept telling me he was.
Speaker 3 (26:47):
He was okay, what do you want?
Speaker 1 (26:49):
So he gets back up, he's staggering towards you said
he was okay? When when when all the stuff, all
the training that I went through to be a youth coach.
You have to go through all the different concussion training
and and and personal training and all kinds of questions
that you have to answer, and modules you have to
watch about what to recognize for injuries and and and
(27:12):
for you know, stuff off the field, you know, safe play,
off the field, trauma. Like, there's all these different modules
you have to pass. And just the fact that they tell,
you know, hey, talking to a player and the player
telling you they're okay, is okay?
Speaker 3 (27:26):
That's not enough?
Speaker 8 (27:26):
Right?
Speaker 1 (27:27):
If you see something, you take that, you take that person.
And obviously we're talking about different stakes. We're talking about
youth sports and soccer and softball versus the NFL. But again,
the game is over. I get it, if it's close
and you really don't want to make them out. I
can see that turning a blind eye to it, because
we see that a lot. But this was there was
no reason, you know, he came back again the steers.
There was no reason that was like a lifetime. He
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came back against the Steelers. That's what Kevin O'Connell would
fight back with.
Speaker 3 (27:54):
Yeah, he came back.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
No, you should be a great result there. Yeah, that
was the guy that was able to move laterally. That
was a guy they didn't have much of a pass
rush getting on him. I mean this is like if
something happens to Carson Wentz, I would sue the Vikings
and I would say, you want be in a.
Speaker 3 (28:07):
Game where I couldn't play man? But he said he
was okay. I know that.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
Like that, like that's the worst that tells me. Kevin o'cotton, dude,
just think for a second. Come about what we've had
this week. Be the latest. Be a human being and
be someone who understands that the game is over. We've lost,
and now you want to make sure you're protecting the
health of your quarter. It's not the super Bowl, right,
it's not the be all to end all. Even then
we still would have that question but as to whether
(28:33):
your backup could find, you know, lightning in a bottle
for a quarter.
Speaker 3 (28:36):
But but we're watching this.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
It's it's week eight, Week seven, Week seven of your
National Football League season. I had a lot of football
to be played, and you don't know that that other
guy's walking through the door. So unless you want to
go to Russell Wilson, you want Carson Wentz up and
around right time now to find out what's trending in
the wide world of sports. And someone who's big phrase
tonight has been big fat zero because of thanks for
(29:02):
cleaning that up for it, because of Quentin Johnson's targets.
Speaker 3 (29:06):
Put him on a milk.
Speaker 9 (29:07):
Carton, a milk carton he's been missing. It is week eight,
fellas of the NFL. It is week eight of the NFL.
In the night where we have the NFL. Honestly, what's
been exciting has been the NBA. We've got a game,
another game.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
The NFL was exciting just because Quentin Johnson, didn't.
Speaker 3 (29:28):
You a while ago? Yeah?
Speaker 9 (29:31):
No, No, great win for the Chargers whom so excited,
but also.
Speaker 3 (29:34):
Big fat zero five guys appear even in the literally right,
it's like, where did everybody go? Now we're efficient with
our offense all of.
Speaker 1 (29:44):
A sudden, No, that's a problem. He's not distributing the
ball well enough, what's talking about.
Speaker 9 (29:49):
I'm serious, I'm serious, But guys, this game between the
Nuggets and the Warriors has been too exciting for us.
Speaker 3 (29:56):
We're losing our voice.
Speaker 9 (29:57):
And only Game one for the Nuggets, Game two for
the Warriors.
Speaker 3 (30:01):
It was back and forth.
Speaker 9 (30:02):
Aaron Gordon hit his tenth three to give the Nuggets
the lead, and then who responds with another three Steph
Curry to tie the game. And just like death taxes
and Nicola Jokic a triple double. That's the only things
you can count on in this world. So they're tied
at one twenty. They just got going in overtime. But
Aaron Gordon has forty five points.
Speaker 3 (30:24):
Again, he is.
Speaker 1 (30:25):
Ten out of eleven from three point right. He started
out making his first eight. That's close to the record.
Speaker 3 (30:31):
I think of the record like in.
Speaker 9 (30:33):
A row without Missy.
Speaker 3 (30:35):
I think I think you're right for the record. Yes, absolutely,
I want to say.
Speaker 1 (30:38):
I want to say Jalen Brunson has the record. I
really want to say Brunton's got the record.
Speaker 3 (30:42):
You're probably right, that sounds right, that could be right.
Speaker 1 (30:44):
Go New York, going New York. O, going New York,
going New York.
Speaker 3 (30:47):
Oh, okay, other game ya okay.
Speaker 9 (30:50):
See in Indiana they went to double overtime. In their
finals rematch, but okay See came out on top one
forty one to one thirty five. Shay Gildes Alexander dropped
a new career high fifty five points to go along
with eight rebounds and five assists. Pascal Siakam was the
one who hit the shot to force ot and ended
with the double double and the lost thirty two points
and fifteen rebounds. When it comes to a couple of
(31:12):
games in the NHL, the Ducks top the Bruins seven
to five. Boston has lost six in a row. Mammoth
outscored the Blue seven to four. Utah has won five
in a row. The King's edge the Stars three to
two in overtime, and the Hurricanes beat the Avalanche five
to four in a shootout. We're almost there, guys. Game
one of the World Series Toronto Blue Jays and the Dodgers.
Toronto is going to have trey Ya Savage on the
(31:33):
mound for Game one, and unfortunate news, there's still no
more details. The Dodgers announced that relief pitcher Alex Vesio
will be away from the teams he deals with a
personal family matter. They did not provide a timetable for
his return. But it can't be good.
Speaker 3 (31:47):
No, he was expecting a child. No, so it can't
be good. All right, thank you very much, you're welcome. Guys.
Speaker 1 (31:54):
On a different note, yeah, big game tonight, the Hurricanes
beat the Avalanche tonight. Teams wore their throwback jerseys. The
Avs wore Nordicuse jerseys and the hurricanescuse or the Nordiak's jerseys,
and the Hurricanes wore the Whalers jerseys, which was so
(32:14):
bleep and exciting. Man, it was so much fun. Yeah,
you were just trying to.
Speaker 3 (32:23):
It's fun, man.
Speaker 1 (32:24):
Oh, it's fun seeing those seeing those old school jerseys
is awesome.
Speaker 3 (32:27):
No, it's a win in all of these sports.
Speaker 1 (32:30):
Expecting to see like ray Alcuccier skating up down the
ice for the nord Ecuse.
Speaker 3 (32:33):
Oh yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (32:34):
The Stasney brothers, they had all three of them, Peter
Marrian Anton.
Speaker 3 (32:37):
Oh yeah they were good. Let's go back in the
way back with Stasny's yeo Stasney. Did we get Forstburg
out there while we're at it?
Speaker 1 (32:45):
Ye for But he was never he was never a Nordiic.
I don't I don't think he was coming. I think,
you know, they think the last go. I want to say,
maybe it was Hobby Boolin, one of the last Nordean
you know me, Hobby, Look you might have.
Speaker 3 (33:00):
I don't know, but yeah, that's all. You're fun tonight
seeing those two forsburg just to the avalanche.
Speaker 1 (33:05):
Never mind the Whalers all running on the ice after
they winning the shootout, only one goal in the shootout.
Speaker 3 (33:11):
Yeah, well, I trying to run away from the go
New York. Goh stuff, Go Hartford, Go Hartford, Go go Hartford,
go hard.
Speaker 1 (33:18):
But we celebrate some mammoth and get some wolf Wolfgang
van Halen going, Oh, you want to hear some mullkeets. Okay,
let's get some mammoth going on. Next, let's play the end.
Let's play the I'm a Mass the acoustic version of
the new young Blood Aerosmith because Steve Martin plays banjo
on it. Okay, how about that, I bless you're Steve Martin.
Let's see Let's hear wolf Gan van Halen first. Let's
(33:38):
see that coming up next, not one but two big
takes on the biggest NBA story of the night. Jason
and Mike. This is Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (33:49):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
pm Pacific.
Speaker 3 (33:57):
This is not Wolfgang van Halen. No, this is Wolfgang.
Speaker 2 (34:02):
It's some other there.
Speaker 3 (34:03):
How about Wolfgang amadaas Mozart Let's Go.
Speaker 4 (34:08):
Sixteen seventy four, wolfgangamadeas Mozart Mary's Constance Waiver sixteen ninety four,
Mozart composes the Magic Flute and sixteen ninety five Mozart dies.
In nineteen ninety three, Arthur and rock singer falcl Records.
Speaker 3 (34:25):
Rock me O the dayas the day is a day.
You know, the Smurfs eventually redid the magic flute.
Speaker 1 (34:32):
Yay, oh here just get a little uh could just
see Tom Halse doing his thing. Very upset Trevor from
the Marvel movies Gandhi, very mad.
Speaker 2 (34:45):
See.
Speaker 1 (34:45):
I feel like I'm being my soul's being taken away,
like I'm in a Harry Potter movie. Now turning to vapors.
The Jason Smith Show with Mike Harmen live from the
Fox Sports Radio series. Actually that was that was f
Marie Abraham. Yes it was not Ben Kingsley. Jason named
the song non. Ben Kingsley is the mandalori.
Speaker 10 (35:04):
This is this is uh e twued in E minor. No, really,
how dare you it tuned in F minor? You unconscious?
Swine it too? It tued in in fort minor? Are
you calling it tude e e t u d e?
This is requiem in D minor K six two six
sequence five licriosa.
Speaker 1 (35:25):
You're fired now, I think this is actually fort minor.
Where'd you go? I miss you? So I feel like
we're drifting towards the duel of the fates if we
let that play out long enough. So let's focus on
this part of the big NBA gambling scandal from today
for a couple of minutes because of all the facts
(35:46):
that we got out, this is just what blows me away. Right.
Chauncey Phillips, Damon Jones, Terry Rosier all caught up in
a big FBI investigation which kind of blew open the
lid on illegal sports gambling. A lot of it involves
players who leaves and money went out on their unders
for prop bets for the for a couple of years,
(36:06):
you know, for a big period. And this is what
the NBA was investigating, right, Okay, So that's mainly what
it is for Terry Rozier or some other people. But
this Chauncey Billups thing is just I was blown away
by this. Now, Chauncey Billups is not involved in this
to the extent where he was giving out information about
games or players being hurt, but he is accused of
(36:28):
using his celebrity to lure people into playing in poker
games that were rigged by the mafia. Okay, the Banano
Gambino Luczy, and I don't think Joey Lukesey is involved
picturing in Major League Baseball and Genevieve's crime families. So
the biggest crime fantasy yea in the United States were
involved in this. Now what is it? The organizers allegedly
(36:50):
used sophisticated cheating technologies, including shuffling machines that could read
the cards in the deck, poker chip trays with hidden cameras,
special contact lenses and glasses that could read pre marked cards,
and an X ray table that could read cards face
down on the table. And Chauncey Billups and Damon Jones
(37:13):
were hey, play, hey, come play in this game with
Chauncey Billups Damon Jones, and they paid Chauncey billups at
think fifty grand to come in because hey, big rollers
want to community host, you play with NBA stars and
everything else. I Meanwhile, these guys would get taken for
their money and after it was over once the quote
fish lost in these games, the mafia used extortion and
(37:33):
violence to make sure they paid their gambling debts. This
is straight out of a movie. Oh yeah, this is
way more sophisticated.
Speaker 3 (37:40):
That's I mean.
Speaker 1 (37:40):
I mean X ray tables that can read the card
face down right, poker chip trays that got hidden cameras
in them. Like this is this is way past like
what I've seen in the first season of Sneaky Pete
in any of The Oceans movies, Like this is like, hey,
you have the You thought Hollywood was good, No, we
got Hollywood beat with what we got going on. Oh
what's great is you and I were talking about like
the different lingo go back to Ocean's Well, we can
(38:03):
we run this all. We're gonna need a Jim Brown
and Ella fitz Jails always like all of these different
phraseologies here. It's like, hey, just get that X ray table.
Look a We're gonna run two brothers and a stranger. No,
how about a Miami miracle. No, we di don't have
the people for that. All right, how about how about
an LA confidential? You think we can put the scratch
together in the next couple of days, in forty eight hours,
(38:23):
I'll call somebody, right, all all of those great terms,
and you're trying to do the It's it's like calling
an NFL play right, thirteen personnel versus twelve personnel run
fifty nine A look, how about a sixty five toss
power trap.
Speaker 3 (38:37):
No, we have no time we need we need a
blocking tight end there, we don't have enough guys.
Speaker 1 (38:40):
We gotta Texas two step. How about a Micah Parsons trade. No,
we can't run any of those.
Speaker 3 (38:45):
Wow, now you dragged Jerry Jones into it all. Can
we run a Harmon purple shorts? No?
Speaker 1 (38:52):
No, no, not not not not south of not south
of the Mason Dixon life.
Speaker 3 (38:57):
No, you're not rich enough for that. No, no, in
the south.
Speaker 1 (39:01):
Really just an amazing run. Here from the Trailblazers coaches
former coach coach at exile. Here's his attorney, Chris Ayward.
He would anyone who knows Chauncey Billups knows he's a
man of integrity. Men of integrity do not cheat and
defraud others. To believe that Chauncey Billups did with the
federal government is accusing him of is to believe that
(39:23):
he would risk his Hall of Fame, legacy, his reputation,
and his freedom. He would not jeopardy aze those things
for anything, let alone a card game.
Speaker 6 (39:32):
Man.
Speaker 1 (39:33):
Now, this was eighteen months, a lot of lot of
investigatory work done here. The NBA said they looked into
things and pushed it aside. So there's some questions there.
Speaker 3 (39:46):
Sure we haven't.
Speaker 1 (39:47):
We haven't done the deep dib on that, because that
would be like, all right, what information did you have?
Because if you had literally all the cards on see
now I can't even run the gambling. He got all
the cards on the table in front of him. Just
you can't read. Then we wanna know you got the
mark cards. They we run in a northern Michigan bridge. No,
can't run that. Okay, that's great, all right, that's fine.
(40:08):
If Adam Silver gave a press conference and started using
those terms about a Saskatchewan side step, no nor people
went to presty legal in fourteen states.
Speaker 3 (40:17):
But you know the one thing I.
Speaker 1 (40:18):
Will say this is that for all of the potential
talk that oh tip of the iceberg, there's more coming,
There'll be more investigations coming. But if this was what
was unearthed after this long an investigation, I feel pretty
good that the because you know that they're out to
get the NBA, right, want to get the NBA and.
Speaker 3 (40:34):
Get there, we got to get sports. Whant it gets more?
Speaker 1 (40:37):
I think I feel pretty confident that they found when
they found everything that was out there, and the next
time we hear about investigating maybe a few months from now,
another year and a half from now, and they look
into whatever is happening as far as gambling goes. But
I feel pretty good that that this is what they
found and this is something that the NBA will Okay,
we'll deal that, We'll move on, yes, Seah, I don't
(40:58):
want to go deep down the full hats that are
out there going you know, hey, it's because of this guy,
that guy, the other guy, five guys being critical of
the administration, Like okay, you could you could take that
if you want. But if they uncovered wrongdoing, did they
do wrong?
Speaker 8 (41:15):
Right?
Speaker 3 (41:15):
Did the government do wrong? In this case?
Speaker 1 (41:17):
If they actually found something because that's what if you
go parse through the noise you've heard today, that's some
of it.
Speaker 3 (41:23):
It's like, why don't they leave us alone?
Speaker 1 (41:25):
Like no, no, they found stuff, they found stuff, But
I feel good that they found all the stuff. Like
if this kind of investigation, like it's not going to
be suddenly where we're getting this this is the first
of many. It just seems you'd wait for all of
it and bring it out at once, as opposed to
scraps just because it's the beginning of the season. I
don't think you just go for just the short term.
(41:46):
Special guests from Vegas joining us next to the latest
on this story.
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