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June 28, 2023 • 36 mins

Jason Smith and Mike Harmon discuss if Josh Jacobs could hold out into the 2023 season, Ryan Seacrest plans to succeed Pat Sajak as the host of "Wheel of Fortune", and Steve Cohen promises some straight answers about the Mets tomorrow! Plus, Jason La Canfora - Longtime NFL Insider joins the guys!

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 1 (00:28):
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Speaker 3 (00:49):
Smith, I have a very important update. Uh yeah, it
happened to you again, didn't it. Well, yeah, it happened
to me again.

Speaker 4 (00:56):
Oh Toddy.

Speaker 3 (00:58):
But the bigger story is that he is in fact
a human being. He has now left with a cracked fingernail.
Oh it was in relief.

Speaker 1 (01:08):
Oh boy, the blood shit I there might have been.

Speaker 3 (01:14):
I don't know, I don't know how deep the the tear.

Speaker 4 (01:16):
Was he cut them?

Speaker 1 (01:18):
Show hey Otani tonight for the Angel. I mean, just
think about this for a second, right the Angel leading
the White Sox three to one in the bottom of
the seventh, Otani just left the game after his second
home run of the night. He's now has twenty eight
home runs. He's got sixty four RBI, leading major League
Baseball in both of those categories. Oh, by the way,

(01:39):
he also six and the third innings, four hits, ten strikeouts.

Speaker 4 (01:43):
And they'll lose.

Speaker 1 (01:44):
And now the Angels, you know they're gonna find a
way to blow this game.

Speaker 3 (01:47):
Right that no decision, sure, because for all his brilliance,
he's six and three.

Speaker 1 (01:54):
Well, I mean, look, the Angels aren't. Look the Angels aren't.
You know, they're not. They're not the eighty four Tigers,
so you know, but there at least there there's six
games over five hundred. But uh, this has been some
kind of night for Otani. But now with the cracked fingernail,
will keep an eye on that. But here he is.
He's hitting three hundred three for three tonight. He's got
three of the Angels five hits, two of them are

(02:15):
home runs, also has a walk really you hear one
man show all the time. No tonight he really was
a one man show. Really, no, it's it show.

Speaker 3 (02:23):
No.

Speaker 1 (02:23):
Well, and that's what he's been.

Speaker 3 (02:24):
And you know, I see a lot of people in
my timeline getting very excitable of trying to figure out
if they can plan a date and get down there
to watch him, knowing that they've got a couple of
months before he either moves up the five or skips
Southern California all together.

Speaker 1 (02:40):
So there goes o Tani unbelievable again. Well, when we
hear more, we will let you know as that comes up.
But another big story tonight, and this is starting to
gain a lot of traction. The Padres lost again Stomy.
If you've heard this book it out, you know. And
here's the thing, you know, the Mets lose, and they're

(03:00):
the same exact teams. They both spend all kinds of
money on their rosters. But the Mets are just the
biggest colossal We laugh at them failure.

Speaker 3 (03:08):
Ah, because a lot of you media people, you know talent,
are Mets fans.

Speaker 1 (03:14):
So you know, you wear it on.

Speaker 3 (03:16):
Your sleeve and either to be mocked for a performance
theater or just because we like to mock you, whereas
another time.

Speaker 1 (03:24):
What other talent is a Mets fan besides me? Come on, man,
I mean Rich Davis is a Mets fan. I mean
Frank the Tank. Oh, Frank the Tank. And that's it.
That's it. The three green what that's it? No, Greene's Jets. No,
Greeny's not Mets, he's Jets. Not a Mets guy.

Speaker 5 (03:37):
Well whatever, though, the Jets, that's the Jets's the Jets anyway,
The point being that the Mets are a national national story, right,
They're a national team New York.

Speaker 1 (03:51):
There you go.

Speaker 3 (03:52):
When it comes to the Padres, nobody cares. I mean,
look at it. Look at how light most people went
on tatis getting suspended. Eh, next guy put it in
a box because he's come back and he's been on
a terear and nobody's said anything about that either except
you and.

Speaker 1 (04:09):
I talking about it a little bit.

Speaker 3 (04:11):
It was the last couple of nights, yeah, and an
awful night tonight.

Speaker 1 (04:14):
Yeah, oh for five.

Speaker 3 (04:15):
But in general, like, since he's come back from the
this I mean two eighty fifteen and thirty six with
a near nine hundred ops, it's had a pretty good run.
Nobody cares they're not on TV. They can't show the highlights.

Speaker 1 (04:30):
Just kidding, but this is a night now where things
get a little different because Manny Machado has decided to
get involved. After the game was over tonight they lose
to the Pirates, and and look, Machado is having probably
his worst season of his last five years, five or
six years. Right, he's only hitting two fifty. He's he's like,

(04:51):
he's on track to go like twenty some odd home
runs and seventy RBIs, you know, well below what he's
used to, which is around one hundred rbi mark kids around,
you know, between two eighty and three hundred. So he's
having a bed he's now he's not having a great year.
And the Padres are and having a great year. And
he was asked to talk to reporters after the game
after they lost, like to the Pirates nine to four,

(05:12):
and he said, I don't have the time. I don't
have the time. I don't have the time to go. Uh,
I'm pretty sure this is the deal. This is that worth.
There's a contract in Major League back. Hey, after the
game is over, you talk to reporters it now, I
don't have the time Tonight out of the time tonight,
I got, I got tickets. I'm going to see the Flash,
and I gotta see it before it leaves theaters after
this week, so cause it's really disappointing. So I'm gonna

(05:34):
go see the Flash.

Speaker 3 (05:34):
Did he get the two for one deal on fandango
before it sold out?

Speaker 1 (05:38):
I got I gotta get there fast man for one deal.

Speaker 3 (05:43):
Yeah, it's it's gonna be out of theaters by the weekend, folks.
So you not that I'm trying to push people to
a theater by any stretch, But.

Speaker 1 (05:52):
Yeah, I I kind of like this answer. I don't
have time. I don't have time. Yeah, I don't have time.

Speaker 4 (05:57):
He's gonna be wearing this one for a long time, Mike.

Speaker 1 (06:00):
He strikes me as a guy who really doesn't care.

Speaker 3 (06:03):
I don't have I mean, if this takes over for
him being lazy and not running to first base, I
think he'll take it.

Speaker 4 (06:09):
They paid him like a leader. He's coming off like
he's two years old. Dude.

Speaker 3 (06:13):
Oh no, no, No, they paid him for production. They didn't
pay him to be a leader. Come on, no, very
different things. No, that's you mean by matching baseballs. It's
not because you put on a suit and get in
front of a microphone.

Speaker 1 (06:27):
No, the Podres, but the Potters at the point where
it was like, will you please take our money? Nobody
else is just please take our money. No, They've also
you're taking Manny. They've also been crushed by the fact
you got Soto.

Speaker 3 (06:37):
He's at two seventy, which is, you know, much higher
than it was for a long time. But at fourteen
and forty one, he's grossly underperformed for the money you're
paying him.

Speaker 4 (06:47):
But there's certain things you do not say, and this
is one of them. I know you love it, Mike,
but he's gonna regret this one.

Speaker 1 (06:54):
No, but this, this is who Manny Machado is. Right,
Sometimes you show your ass. That's what he did. He's
showing his ants like Sippo it's en white, Beanie Blue
in the early nineties.

Speaker 4 (07:05):
Cries more than my two year old.

Speaker 1 (07:07):
This is Look, I'm gonna tell you, it's gonna be
a really awful year for the Mets, right, I'm telling
you it's gonna be awful. Right. Well, I'm embarrassed what
Steve Cohen's gonna have to have this press conference tomorrow
and talk about things. But it's going to be just
as bad for the Padres because you have a lot
of personalities on the Padres that as things get bad

(07:28):
and don't get better, Let's see how things go. Let's
see how Manny Machado is in the clubhouse where things
aren't going well for a while. Right, Let's see when
you when you get nervous going. Man, this is the
second year of the three years. We're gonna have one
Soto till we have to pay him, and we're paying everybody.
You know, what can we do here? Wait till you
see things are gonna get bad for the Padres as well.

(07:49):
And I'm telling you the Mets are gonna try to
sell everybody and they're gonna have a tough time with
guys like Verlander and Schurzer. Padres may be in the
same boat. Man. They're paying a lot of guys a
lot of money, and this is gonna be a bad year.
And if they have to make a way, do you
see some of the big, high priced guys that might
be available to deadline if this doesn't get better for
San Diego? Because San Diego, at least the players they've

(08:09):
signed her a lot younger. The Mets guys they're all old,
and it's like, why don't we want that guy at
thirty five? We could have this guy who's thirty or
twenty three or twenty two, We can have one of
these guys. You you wait and see what the big
sale off of the Padres could be. Like it'll, I
tell you. The Mets are like Filin's bargain basement.

Speaker 3 (08:29):
The Podres good, nice, nicely done. The Padres is gonna
be like Amazon Black Friday. There's so many sales. I
can't even keep track of them. Everybody is available. I
don't even I don't even know where to look. That's
the thing I always get reeling, you know me.

Speaker 1 (08:42):
I like to shop. I like to online shop. Like
when it comes to like Amazon and Black Friday, I'm like,
I don't even know where to go. There's like so
many deals, Like I can't even keep them straight. I know,
I don't even know where I need I need. Like,
I don't need a site to say, hey, we've cobbled
together the best Black Friday deals. That's not enough. I
need a site to say we cobble together the best
of a list of the best Black Friday deals for you. Okay,

(09:04):
here's the here's the eight sites that I can go
to to shoper. Don't give me the twenty five, give
me the best of those sites. Oh okay, so Adidas
is thirty five percent off everything? All right, great, I
want to go there? Do I want to go where?
Wait a minute, under Armour is twenty percent off, but
twenty percent off items of fifty No, no, no, tell me
where to go or I'm getting the best deals. That's
what it's gonna because everybody's gonna be available for the padres.

(09:27):
Is your phone near you right now? Yeah? I got it?
Right now? Why what do you go? Because you just
spoke all that.

Speaker 3 (09:32):
If you pull up your Instagram feed, I'm sure you'll
get a bunch of those ads right now, or Facebook
or whatever else, cause it just hurt everything you are
looking for, and the algorithm is gonna spin it right
back at you the next time you start to scroll.
Oh my, I'm sure you're probably right Either that, or
I'm sure you could find someone on Craigslist that will

(09:52):
act as your personal shopper.

Speaker 1 (09:56):
Or other you know, it's under services. I've think it's
gonna be.

Speaker 3 (10:00):
Interesting, right and when it when it comes down to it,
the curiosity when the Mets. On the Mets side of things,
if you're legitimately gonna try to move pitching, well, there's
a scarcity. So perhaps you can find someone who's willing
to swallow a longer bad contract for a pitcher, even
if he's older, just because you need that immediate help

(10:23):
because you're you're gonna see if you can't buy a
September October run and then whatever, all bets are off
for twenty twenty four and beyond.

Speaker 1 (10:32):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (10:33):
But the for the Padres, I think they've now just
built it for the long run.

Speaker 1 (10:37):
All Right, you've got your core.

Speaker 3 (10:39):
We'll see what they do contractually with SODO arbitration eligible
and all that fun stuff and negotiations go on there.
But I think for the core, you're kind of stuck.
They've got a couple of high, high priced guys at
other positions. I don't I don't know that they sell off,
but it's it's certainly has the makings of really cool

(11:00):
trade deadline.

Speaker 1 (11:02):
Yeah no, But that's the thing for for the Padres.
And think about this is that, Okay, they're coming off
a year where they went to the NLCS, right, great
run for them. Last year they go to the NLCS.
But it's not like they were a dominant team. You know,
they won eighty seven games and they got hot in
the play, which what you need to be. So the
Padres are gonna think, do we need all these guys
to win eighty seven games? I mean, really, it's not

(11:22):
like they It's not like they went out spent all
this money. They won one hundred and ten games like
the Dodgers, and hey, now are the big bed bullies
on the block. No, even with all these guys eighty
seven wins, eighty seven eighty seven shut up. So it's
like you're gonna say, all right, and eventually Juan Soto's
now gonna be a year away from we have to
sign in. We gave up so many prospects for him,

(11:43):
and a couple of them are really starting to come through.
What are we really gonna do? And they're gonna have
to divest themselves as some of that high priced talent,
and it's it's all better. I mean, you want you
want the Padres players at the deadline more than you
want the Mets players. Look, I'll be I'm never gonna lie.
Oh sure you want the Padres players. Wait, the Mets players,
the Mets players that come with all kinds of caveats
and Okay, yeah you can have this guy, but you

(12:05):
gotta take this guy with you, and then this guy's
gotta go and all that. So that's the way it's
gonna be. Because you're the pot. You can't sit back
and say, Okay, this mix is gonna work next year,
because now this mix is gonna wind up being volatile
and it's is Machado still? Can we still trust Machado
to be a guy to buy in? Right? Is Tatiase really?
Has he really turned a corner? Has he not?

Speaker 4 (12:26):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (12:27):
What about you know, are we really gonna give Soto
three hundred and fifty million dollars or four hundred million dollars?
If we do that, what do we need to do elsewhere?
So you're gonna, I'm telling you, if they fall out,
they're gonna have to make some really big decisions at
the trade deadline. And that's gonna be the team everybody's
gonna come calling too.

Speaker 3 (12:43):
Well, what it all comes down to it with with Machado,
you kind of got got right. And if you didn't
see his history as a potential problem attitude and professionalism
at times, great player when all things are cooking. But
if you didn't see that in your in your bingo
card based on his past, bad bad job and trying

(13:06):
to find someone else to take on a huge contract
of that ilk, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (13:10):
Good luck, man. I'll tell you Fox Sports Radio the
Jason Smith Show with my best friend Mike Harmon, And look,
it may not be Machado. It could, you know, it could.
It could be teams going, yeah, we don't want that,
but we'll take one of the other guys, Like we
don't want Machado, we don't, but we'll take another guy.
You stick with that deal that you gave Manny, it's
all good, but we'll take one of your other guys.
It doesn't need to be him. They could be said,
could be somebody else. It's but I'm telling you that's

(13:32):
where everybody's gonna go. Hey, let's call the Padres there.
There are there ten games under five hundred. They're done,
they're done. They they've lost. It's like Billy Billy Bean
says in Moneyball about Mark Schapiro, Oh, he's lost faith.
Let's go get Ricardo Rincone.

Speaker 2 (13:45):
He's he's lost faith.

Speaker 1 (13:47):
Let's call him right now. His season's done. He's lost faith.
That's gonna be every GM calling the Padres.

Speaker 3 (13:53):
That's how I operate with anybody I have to do
business with you.

Speaker 4 (13:56):
Other gms have the preschool's number to call for Machada.

Speaker 1 (14:00):
Oh come on, hey, come on the padres and been
making trades of the deadline for years. Everybody knows that.
Come on, now, come on, Frostburg.

Speaker 4 (14:06):
I don't have time right now, Jason.

Speaker 2 (14:11):
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Speaker 1 (14:25):
Bye look up, that is here Fox Sports Radio. The
Jason Smith Show with my best friend Mike Harmon. What's
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big NFL story coming up in a couple minutes. But

(14:48):
today was a big day in the world of pop
culture because now we know who's taking Pat Sajack's place
and hosting Wheel of Fortune, and it's Ryan Seacrest Crest
another gig for him hosting Wheel of Fortune. And he's
gotta be one of those guys right that that really

(15:08):
that has to say life is so easy. Oh my god,
how he just gets he just gets all of these jobs.
And and when what he does is he smiles and
he's affable, and he gets he gets all of these guys.
You know, he's he's the guy that should show you
that hot take theater and hot take nonsense and all
this time that's got to just go by the wayside. Man,
Sometimes you can just smile and be nice and hey,

(15:30):
look people want to give you things. Ah, what this guy,
he's gonna do it. Oh okay, I guess Ryan Seacrest
is gonna host Wheel of Fortune.

Speaker 3 (15:37):
Okay, yeah, he's He's a guy that It was met
with a lot of derision, a lot of anger. Obviously,
he gave up his other seat with Kelly Rippau. She
now co hosts with her husband, in case you ever
paid attention to that show. But you know, always good
to see guys that are in the iHeart Family dominate
more Seacrest more, uh, Mario Lopez. I think the two

(16:00):
them own about eighty percent of the jobs in Hollywood.

Speaker 1 (16:03):
So that's good. It's it's you know, it's definitely one
of the it's definitely one of those huh Yeah, Okay,
I could say I'm jumped that I'll keep that, He'll
keep that front and still find a way to do
like seventeen other things. Well, but that's the beauty of
those jobs.

Speaker 3 (16:15):
And we've talked about it, and this goes to Lopez,
and you know, it's the dirty little secret of some
of the way you can track shows and tape stuff out,
especially if you're doing countdown shows or in this case,
game shows. It's only part of your year that you
work your ass off, you know, and then and then
you get a lot of time off.

Speaker 1 (16:32):
Yeah. It used to be like like when you did
a game show, like that was it? Like you didn't
do anything else? Wait? No, you did a game show
and that was it. But I want to do other things. Nope,
you're doing a game show. Now you're civity. Man. It's
it's a different world. Now it's I'll do the game. Yeah,
I'll take three months to tape all these shows for
a year, and and I got nine months to do

(16:52):
I got nine months to not work, or I got
nine months to tell something else if I want to.

Speaker 3 (16:56):
Do it right, I mean the teacher's growing up by
in Chicago, right. A lot of times you'd go to
some event and all of a sudden they were working
somewhere else, Right, they had summers off, right, stretch your payer. However,
you would do that with your contracts with the teachers'
union and.

Speaker 1 (17:10):
What choice you make.

Speaker 3 (17:11):
But a lot of folks had other jobs, so all
of a sudden, it's like, Hey, our tour manager here
for the Brookfield Zoo is my third grade teacher?

Speaker 1 (17:20):
Hey, how are you?

Speaker 4 (17:20):
You know?

Speaker 3 (17:21):
That kind of thing, same day. And it also goes
back to Hollywood. Right back in the day, you were
a contract player for a studio, which meant you only
could do the scripts they wanted to do. Now you
have your own production companies with a lot of clout,
and a guy like Seacrest, he's got a lot of clout,
brings eyeballs and history, and advertisers would say it's usually

(17:42):
a win, right, he does not have on his resume
right now, something like say a black Adam to run
and ruin the streak can cause problems.

Speaker 1 (17:51):
No, he just got win after win after win. Man,
he's undefeated. Right. The Rock had his movie, his vanity project.

Speaker 3 (17:59):
Now they cast some other guy that looks just like
Henry cavill As Superman, which is a weird ass thing.

Speaker 1 (18:05):
But that's fine. Uh but you know, I like, do
you see Rachel Brosnahan is gonna be Lois Lane. Oh
that's the best. Now we just need Alex Borstein to
be Perry White. I'm all, she's her bod Jesus, what
the blanke? Miriam, what the blanke? Lois? You do it
over here?

Speaker 3 (18:20):
Lois Perry White working blue.

Speaker 1 (18:23):
But it's just think about that. It's fantastic. Oh, I
got I got this. I have a story. I have
a story to pitch. I have a story. I want
to go do this story. I wanted to know what
the blanke? What the blake do you think you're doing?
You get out of my office. I got a story,
I got a story. I would just be outstanding. Forget
about super Man. I just want to see Lois and
Perry White.

Speaker 3 (18:40):
No, I'm kind of with you there. And then we'll
look to see who Jimmy Olsen becomes. But the idea
that you have all these different means to get your
your myriad revenue streams, and that you can control that process.
And obviously, I say the the rock thing and then
the nod in a wink because Is it going to

(19:00):
affect things long term? No, he's still bankable. He went
right back to the Fast and the Furio is what happened.
Everybody lost their minds. And I hope they add like
another nine movies to the franchise because the Rock is back.
So all of that turns on a dime With Seacrest,
he just decided, all right, I'm not doing this by
coastal thing anymore.

Speaker 1 (19:18):
Hey, you want to be the game show host over here? Okay?

Speaker 3 (19:23):
Vana White evidently lawyering up to try to figure out
what her role is going forward and if she remains
part of the show.

Speaker 1 (19:30):
Yeah, that's the big drama now because I read she
wants to like she hasn't gotten a raise in eighteen years.
Well that's just stupid. You see that by but she
was making like three million dollars a year, so she's
got pretty good rate.

Speaker 3 (19:40):
Yeah yeah, but I mean I can't imagine it was
just an ever expanding deal. I mean that there was
some sort of negotiation going on there wouldn't her Yeah, but.

Speaker 1 (19:50):
Look, but three million doesn't buy what it used to.

Speaker 3 (19:52):
I mean, it's not well, but my knowining is you know,
she should have fired her agents repeatedly.

Speaker 1 (19:57):
If you kept going back to the weld beat it,
they keep talking going and when Pat retires, Yes, we
know you want to be the host. Yes, we'll tell
them we're on it. We're on it. Don't worry. We'll
talk as soon as Pat. Yes, we'll know. We'll get
the nod. We'll get a heads up way before Pat say.
Jack everan noun said oh crap, hey, sorry about that.
For years I've asked it. Yeah, I know. Yeah, we

(20:19):
screwed that up. That's my fault.

Speaker 3 (20:21):
Well, my favorite response to all of it, though, was
James Holdshauer right, the Jeopardy champ and all of that,
and he talked about the succession plan at Jeopardy. Uh, iue,
you bring in a bunch of folks and randos for
weeks on end that are live television shows that where
they obviously have not prepared to be the host of
that show, as opposed to just reading Q cards and

(20:45):
reinterpreting whatever a producer puts in their ear. Then you
have the producer who says, forget it, I'm gonna do
it myself. Remember, because they did have their executive producer
for a moment before a bunch of accusations he was
gonna be the guy before it became Blossom and Ken Jenny's.

Speaker 1 (21:07):
Fox Sports Radio The Jason Smith Show with Mike Carmon.
I mean I would have been a great host because
I said, I would have said no, I want to
play along with it. I would have I would play
along with the people, and if I win, the show
keeps the money, and if they win, they keep the money,
and it adds a different kind of spice there along
with it. Oh, I'm sorry, I know what this is. Yeah,
I'm sorry. Yeah, you know I know what this is.

(21:28):
This is you can't always get what you want Rolling
Stones yet. Sorry, you don't win, you don't win, you
don't win. Next game, next game. Let's go with a
phrase here we go. Can we just.

Speaker 3 (21:36):
Create our own, you know, YouTube online game show that
we do.

Speaker 1 (21:41):
Okay, but it would be like a mix of like
Wheel of Fortune and other whatever we want it to be,
as long as we stay clear of copyright violations and trademarks. Okay,
So kind of like what is who is who is
it that that doesn't print the teams on the baseball
cards just the name it. Yeah, we're not gonna put
the team's on there with the name of the player

(22:02):
in their uniforms, so we can make So here's what
they do.

Speaker 3 (22:05):
They make cards of the players and everything is airbrushed
off in terms of logos, and then they reach deals
with the individual players to sign autographs. Okay, all right,
that's what we need. We need to do something like that.
Then yeah, we could do that. Okay, very good, you know,
off brand. But I mean there's plenty of ideas. We're in,
you know, an idea factory done.

Speaker 2 (22:28):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
pm Pacific.

Speaker 1 (22:35):
That happened earlier today. Former NFL college football star quarterback
died at the age of thirty five and apparent drowning
in the Gulf of Mexico. He and a group of
other people were trying to swim to swim from a
sandbar and make their way back to shore, but the
group started struggling that maybe it was a rip current,

(22:56):
it could have been a riptide, it could have been
an undertow. We don't know. But one of the individuals,
who has later identified as Ryan Mallett, was not breathing
when he was pulled out of the water was transported
to a local hospital where he was pronounced dead. And
Ryan mal is someone we all remember. We all remember
his career was in the last ten or twelve years.
The guy looked like he was going to be a

(23:16):
star player at Michigan. He transfers from Michigan after his
freshman year to go to Arkansas where he becomes an
even bigger star. Belichick and the Patriots draft him in
the third round out of Arkansas, and you know, just
to spotlight his playing days for a second, talk about
this good part of it, because this tragedy of him
dying at thirty five is just it's really tough to

(23:39):
talk about. We talk a lot about how Garoppolo was
taken to be the air apparent to Brady, right, but
Belichick was really sick of Brady and wanted to kick
him out and say, okay, and Jimmy Garoppolo was the guy.
Then we had the big ESPN Seth Wickersham report that
Brady went to Bob Craft and said, you know this
Garoppolo thing, you got a tray him, and Craft traded

(24:01):
him and Brady hugged him and practice the next day,
so all of these things. But just go back for
a second, because Ryan Mallett could have gone pro after
his junior year. He stays, he could have been one
of the top five quarterbacks pick, but stays and goes
in the third round to the Patriots. Now this is
twenty eleven. Okay, now we all know what that Brady.

(24:22):
Of course, why would you say Brady was in twenty
elevenies He played up until last year. Just go back
for a second, because I'll tell you what almost happened
for Ryan Mallett and how much the Patriots thought of him.
Belichick after he was drafted, said glowing things about him.
The guys wanted everywhere he's gone, he has won, he
has produced. He's a wonderful kid to get to know.

(24:42):
Belichick loved him. He had so many He's had so
much great athletic talent. Might have been a big dual
threat quarterback in the NFL. Might have been someone who
could run a little bit. You don't draft a guy
in the third round, a quarterback unless you think he's
going to play at some So I'll tell you this,
I guarantee you Belichick drafted Ryan Mallett with the thought

(25:07):
of Okay, it's twenty eleven. Brady's been in the league
for twelve years now, he's thirty three. He's coming off
a great year, so it's not like, oh, we're going
to replace him right now, but Belichick is thinking, Okay,
how many more years does Tom legitimately have? Right? Nobody
knew that Brady was going to turn into the age
to fire that he was with, you know, by wearing

(25:27):
TB twelve and eating avocado ice screaming I'm gonna play
till I'm forty five years old. Normally quarterbacks are thirty
three and they're thirty five, Okay, they're kind of done,
and some guys play a little bit later. But Belichick
always wants to move on from players before rather than later.
So I'm sure the plan was, Hey, Brady's coming off
his age thirty three season, how many more years can

(25:48):
he really have? Maybe two? So Mallet comes in, and
he was a bit of a project coming in. He
was someone who, okay, needs to learn be a little
bit more of a pro style offense. But hey, two
years in the Patriots system, Yeah, okay, we're and that
would have been the plan Brady for another couple of years,
and then Mallett would be the guy because Brady would
be thirty five, thirty six, and then that would be

(26:09):
it for him. Now, it turned out Brady never let
Mallet see the field because he stayed. You know, he played.
The only time Brady ever really missed games because of
injuries in two thousand and eight when he got hit
by Merriweather and he tore his ACL and Matt Castle
came in to play the rest of the year. That
was it. I mean, Brady was on the field. Brady
was the guy. No one knew that's who Brady was
gonna be. But if you were going by how things

(26:30):
go in the NFL, Okay, we've been lucky to have
Tom for the past eleven twelve years, won three Super Bowls.
This is great, but eventually we're gonna need somebody else,
and you draft him in the third round because you
know he's going to play. Even in twenty eleven, you're
not drafting the guy in the third round unless you
think he's gonna play meaningful snaps for you. At some point,
you could get a backup quarterback anywhere, you can get

(26:52):
a pretty decent backup quarterback to come in play behind Brady.
Brady come in Mallett was drafted to be the air apparent,
and if things go on differently, Mallet was going to
be the next quarterback of the Patriots dynasty. And he's
coming in in twenty fourteen, and maybe he's got five
or six years with Belichick and they won a couple
more Super Bowls in that time, and maybe Mallet's got

(27:13):
a couple of Super Bowls if that happens. I mean,
it's just the way it could have gone. But just
to think for a second, remember that he was drafted
with that possibility and that thing happening, that he would
have been the guy in New England to take over
for Brady and keep the dynasty going. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (27:30):
I mean, look, we always wonder about from the quarterback
position in particular. You know, the path that you get
into the system, the core coaching, the continuity, and it's
something we celebrate for those rare teams that are able
to execute it, because the quarterbacks then learn and have
their opportunity usually within that scenario. But I mean, you

(27:53):
think about for years, you and I have been doing
fantasy football stuff forever. Mean, you always had Rivers, the Mannings,
mostly Breeze and with the exception of two thousand and eight,
Tom Brady, those are your guys that were getting through
their sixteen games, and then you'd rotate three or four
other guys. So anybody that was coming in during those years,

(28:14):
good luck, you might have gotten on. You know. For
Matt Castle, it worked out, he got his six year,
sixty three million dollar deal and moved on. For Mallet,
you know, it's always one of those what if kind
of questions, but we celebrate the player he was at
Arkansas and obviously doing a lot of good in the
community there as a high school coach. So many people

(28:34):
with great tributes to the guy he was, and you know,
just a reminder of how fleeting this all is to
look after yours, take care and how things can turn
on a dime. So best thoughts to his family, friends,
former teammates, coaches, everybody who knew and loved him, and

(28:54):
for football fans remembering some of those great moments.

Speaker 1 (28:58):
Ryan Mallett, way too young, rest in peace at the
age of thirty five. The Jason Smith's are with Mike
Carmon Live from the tire Rack dot Com Studios, Phone
numbers eight seven, seven ninety nine on Fox Twitter at
how About a Fresca, Mike at Swollen Dome. Coming up next,
we have another NFL story to bring your way. It's
not even July yet, right where things really start heating

(29:21):
up and we start talking about, Hey, who's gonna be here,
who's not gonna be here? But we already have our
first potential holdout. Find out who it is next, and
don't play the Cleveland thing. It's not Cleveland, Cleveland. It's
it's not.

Speaker 4 (29:41):
The Dolphins.

Speaker 1 (29:41):
It's no, it's holdout. It's a holdout. It's a completely
different story than a free that's coming up next. Right here.
Who's gonna be the first big holdout? We may know
that's next, Jason and Mike Fox.

Speaker 4 (29:53):
It's definitely not Dalvin Cook to the Dolphins.

Speaker 2 (29:56):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike Harmon at ten pm Eastern seven pm
Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.

Speaker 1 (30:06):
Fox Sports Radio. So you gotta listen to the whole shows,
The whole Show, The Jason Smith Show with my best
friend Mike Carmon live from the Tiraq dot Com studios,
where this gets to be a little bit of a
nervous time in the NFL where you wonder, Okay, some
guys looking for new contracts. Are they going to be happy?

(30:28):
Are they or are they going to hold out? Well,
it looks like last year's NFL rushing champion may be
that guy. NFL Media's Tom Pellasero told The Rich Eisen
Show on Tuesday, there's a possibility that Josh Jacobs will
hold out and it could stretch through training camp and

(30:48):
into week one. Quote at this point, if there's not
a long term deal, I don't anticipate Josh Jacobs being
there at the start of training camp, and I don't
know that he shows up week one. Now before you think,
wait a minute, now, this doesn't happen anymore. Players they
say they're gonna hold up, but there's always a deal
that gets done. I say to you, ah, Raiders, I

(31:09):
know what you're saying. But Raiders, even Jets, you'd say no,
no Raiders. So oh yeah, yeah, I know you're right
about that. Any other deal the Buccaneers, yeah, no, they'll
get somebody. Oh, the forty nine ers, No, they'll figure out. Raiders.
It's the Raiders that could happen. That's the one, the
one team, oh, the hole that will extend Raiders Raiders
one hundred percent.

Speaker 3 (31:28):
Well, I mean a little bit of dysfunction, quarterback change,
quarterback who may not be ready for week one that
you brought in.

Speaker 1 (31:35):
All of these things.

Speaker 3 (31:37):
Will be answered on the next episode of soap. There's
a nice reference with like soap of the seventies or eighties,
or Nicket Night from long long ago. Maybe some TV land.
I don't know what channel it's on these days. Maybe
get your DVD box set as you go. But with
Josh Jacobs, it's the curiosity, you know. I joked about

(31:58):
it a little bit earlier in the show.

Speaker 1 (32:01):
You know, when you've.

Speaker 3 (32:02):
Got a number of disgruntled guys at the same position.
I don't know collectively, they have a whole lot of
power to do stuff, but potential for a lot of
chaos and training camps team to team with their number
one backs, particularly with a team like the Raiders, where
Jacobs was such a feature and such a prominent part
in one of the few bright spots. Right, Derek Carr

(32:24):
was terrible and eventually the season got away so bad
that he got benched. We talked about it earlier in
the show. You find that wherever you get your podcast
it'll be up a little after we get off at
eleven pm Pacific time. I downloaded, give it five stars,
and then evangelize to your friends. Don't care what the
the valuation of the team is. I don't care how

(32:46):
fat anybody's getting that has a piece of the team.
The fact that they still run it terribly tells you
where we're at. And Jacobs is going to be the
latest example of that.

Speaker 1 (32:57):
You know. He put out a tweet earlier in the
offsea and saying sometimes you gotta do it for the
ones after us, Like I'm gonna stand up and say
I'm the NFL rushing champion. I'm you know, I'm young enough, right,
I'm twenty five. I should be getting a big deal here,
and I'm not gonna sit here and take less because
I'm gonna get four and a half million dollars a year,

(33:17):
and the guys after we are gonna get four million
or three and a half million. He said, I need
to do this for the running backs coming up after us.
There's there's something noble in that. I know it's gonna
help them, but it's something noble in that.

Speaker 3 (33:28):
No, sure it's noble now, and remember it is what
June twenty seventh. We'll see what happens in a month's
time whether that's still the function or you start looking
at the prospect of.

Speaker 1 (33:40):
Losing game checks.

Speaker 3 (33:41):
Because you can do a lot of posturing before you
get into camp, before you start getting fined from missing
practices and workouts and whatever else. Then it becomes real
and it becomes about your dollars and cents, particularly in
a league where clearly nobody's lining up to pay any
of these guys. And there's several teams Titans that might
just very well, as much as they love the guy

(34:02):
they've got, might be ready to offload them if the
price was right. However, with so many in the same boat,
I mean, look at Austin Eckler, fantastic player. Six and
a half million are there about this year. Nobody wanted it.
There was no market, didn't You didn't hear any whispers
of anybody knocking on the door, even though he's productive
as a runner and receiver.

Speaker 1 (34:23):
And you move on. Now. The thing that to take
away from this is we talked a lot last night
about tanking and could the Rams wind up tanking if
they start out one and four because they have a
really difficult schedule and if they want to move on
from Matthew Stafford, the only way they're going to get
a quarterback is in the draft because it's just too
much dead cap money for the next two years for them.

(34:44):
But just think about this for a second. This is
now an incredibly competitive division in the AFC West, and
in theory, you would think Denver is better than they
were last year. Year two with Russell Wilson, year one
with Sean Payton. Yeah, if Josh Jacobs hold out into
the season, watch the Raiders get you dare that tank

(35:05):
of palooza Williams. Watch They already need a lot of help.
And what did they do? They brought in Jimmy Bleep
and Garoppolo who and he's even gonna be able to play?
They needed to get better and they didn't watch the
Raiders for a huge tank of palooza. Caleb Williams could
be that guy. Get ready and right now Caleb Williams

(35:26):
in the AFC West the next year years.

Speaker 3 (35:28):
Tom Brady's in that owners box tank Apaloosa.

Speaker 1 (35:33):
Oh, I like watch now.

Speaker 3 (35:34):
Potential for chaos is always a good thing. Brian Hoyer
is there, as is Aidan O'Connell. Look out for Aidan
O'Connell to start a bunch of games.

Speaker 1 (35:43):
I do like aid and O'Connor. I see, I saw
a lot of him play the last couple of years.
He's a really accurate He's gonna wind up starting half
the games this year. Just why no.

Speaker 3 (35:52):
I would take the over on whatever his games played.

Speaker 1 (35:55):
Prop is But man, I'm telling you Caleb Williams drawing
all the Andrew luck Parrison Raiders Babysa.

Speaker 3 (36:04):
Though, because you remember Russell Wilson in the best shape
of his life. Sean Payton hates the media even after
working as a member in it.

Speaker 4 (36:14):
And it's all good on the Broncos are still gonna stink.

Speaker 1 (36:16):
Hey man, about a friend all the time. We got
a big story out of Sports TV coming up next
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