November 7, 2025 • 40 mins
Jason and Mike talk NFL going into the Broncos win over the raiders in the week 10 Thursday night matchup. Then they look into which teams they think can widen the gap and sit on top of the NFL in the next week weeks. all that and more in Hour 3!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Sports Radio. Greetings, Welcome in Side hour three The Jason
Smith Show with my best friend Mike Harmon. Now we'll
get back into TNF in a second. Do we have
to well, well, because there's we got to look back
at a big bull prediction we made earlier this season
(00:46):
that the Raiders were gonna stinks. It has to do
with the Raiders. It's a little bull it got it
has to do with the Raiders. But I'm excited. I'm
very excited because now I'm gonna countdown. You're gonna countdown
because if you remember it now, it's going back into
bull predictions. If you go back, and I'm going back
now to when the end of Stranger Thing season four
(01:07):
and I talked about how ridiculous that running up that
Hill song was. It was ridiculous. Yeah, I take it
over the popularity of it. I'm sure it was just
some producer who was like, this song meant so much
to me in the eighties, and you're gonna make this
the big song for Sadie's sink. And they were like, yeah, sure,
what happened, But is it also a producer who might
have gone into the marketplace and bought shares, like because
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music gets sold. Now that said, you know what, if
I can get this on this show, those are they're
shorting the market, That is what you were saying. I
could make a ton of money if I can get
this some run. And they said, yeah, sure, why not,
Well we'll make it. We're making a song that no
one's ever heard of. Yes, that means so much to
you from the eighties. Yeah, rock and roll Hall of Fame.
I mean, come on, here's the thing. Yeah, you've been
hearing the song on the show for the better part
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of the last what three years?
Speaker 2 (01:52):
Right?
Speaker 1 (01:52):
A long time? Okay, because now Billie Bobby Brown is
going to be forty when when season five begins. Tonight
was the premiere. Yeah for Stranger Things season five, the
final season, right in a couple of weeks. We're getting
the first four episodes of the final season of Stranger Things, Right,
we get like four at the end of this month,
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and then we get like a couple more on Christmas
and then New Year's Day, something crazy like that. The
final episode of season four was July one, twenty twenty two. Yeah,
it's a long time, man, it's a long time. We've
been running up that hill a long time. My quads
and calves are spect and we've been playing the song
for a long bleaping time. But my deliverance is at hand. Deliverance.
(02:34):
Wait wait, wait, no, you wait, why do you mean
that you're deliverance? Oh no, what does he say in
Shawshank redemption?
Speaker 3 (02:40):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (02:41):
Salvation liath within Oh okay, I think you're referencing that
baby my salvation? Is it? Darn? Darren? Darren, Darren d
n d uh? Is that? I struck a deal with
Alex Tyshert Maybe was a year and a half ago,
and I said, okay, this is the deal. You can
play this song on the show, right, play it on
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the show. That's fine, But when the next season begins,
we're done playing that song. And you said, okay, so
you have now I'm counting down. I'm like, you know,
people to kill Billy Madison. I'm like Steve Bushmi, you're
not knocking exes off the list, kill me. You will
know as far as you know, no, but you have
to adhere to our agreement. When season four drops later
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on this month, no more running up that hill. It's over.
We don't hear that song on the show again. Ever.
Because you need to be a man of your word.
We said no, I had you had three years in
the fast lane. Man, you have to. But eventually the
devil will come for your soul. Eventually it happens. Eventually
the good times endeth and it ends for you the
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end of this month, the day the next season of
Stranger Things drops. Before you respond, Alex, I mean, you're
the one that made the deal, and he said, no,
isn't the devil coming for you? And he agreed to it.
I didn't agree. Look, nobody goes in search of the
devil to say, hey, you got a deal for me, Well, yeah,
give you this fiddle if you beat me and no, Well,
you go down to the cross with great expectation that
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the devil showing. The devil searches you out like you.
No one goes looking your Hey, I'm in search of
the devil. No, no one, no, no, lots of people.
There's a big business now. The devil knows no one's
gonna come looking for him. The devil knows. I gotta
go looking for people, right I I gotta get out there.
I can't. I'm not just something. I'm gonna sit on
my throne in hades and people go, hey, devil, it's me.
It's it's Jason, listen. I want to win the World series.
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Can help me out. Who's your team? Mets best I
can do as an Nlcs's it all right? Fine, I'll
take it. That's great, appreciate it. Thank you. Yeah, I
got a couple of jit doesn't doesn't so, Alex? What
say you in terms of the deal struck during the
twenty twenty two campaign? Is there evidence?
Speaker 4 (04:51):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (04:51):
We have it saved where in the system. This is trust.
You trusted him that that would still be there. You
trusted him with a he's some sound that would exonerate
you from ever having to hear this again. You trusted
him and you blew it. You know you admitted to it.
I did not, Yes, you did. You admitted to it.
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It's right seven seven ninety, it's right here. Let's you,
old kid, it's right where you listen so I can
play it for you? Does I play it for a
hang on? Here we go. This is a tape from
twenty twenty two. Okay, hang on, here we go? Ready,
hang on, ed, all right, I'll let you play this song.
But when the new season of Stranger Things dropped, whenever
that is, it may be in three years, when that
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new season drops, you need to not play this song
ever again. What do you mean, Jay? What do you mean?
Speaker 2 (05:42):
What do you mean?
Speaker 1 (05:42):
I want to play it? What do you mean? All right? Fine?
But what do you mean? I understand? What do you mean?
All right? All right, all right, you're right. You're right, Jay,
you're right. We'll do it, all right, you're right. What
do you mean? That sounds so young? Here we go.
That's well, it was three years ago. You were twenty four.
You're twenty four, right there? But yeah, so there you go.
(06:05):
There's the proof I need. Right, Yeah, I called it
up on the compress and had it there. Yeah, that's good.
I really think you had that in your arsenal. That
was pretty good. What are we playing then?
Speaker 4 (06:14):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (06:14):
Then we go back to Goodbye Horses. Can we talk
Silence of the line, We'll talk. What's what's the next
song that Stranger Things tries to get over?
Speaker 5 (06:22):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (06:22):
They did great Greatness from Metallica, who embraced it. They
did eighty seven eighty eight. When does this take place
this last season? Yeah, Lesson's supposed to the end of
the eighties. No, I know, but like it's a specific year,
is it the eighties? Eighties? Okay, yeah, so that could
be eighty eight or eighty nine or eighty nine, eighty
nine recording to an AI overview, Okay, it's the Fall
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of eighty seven. So we're getting guns and roses. Oh,
that would be guns and red. Guns and Roses is
too popular though, although you would have thinked they would say, hey,
we're gonna use Master of Puppets. Oh no, people are
just gonna think about the old school scene. No, no, no,
we're going to use that. So Fall of eighty seven
was guns and roses. Could get guns and roses. Welcome
to the jungle, Welcome to the upside down. We got
fun and games, or walk like an Egyptian. We been
(07:08):
dancing with mister Vectna. He's been turning things upside down?
Have the top five songs from eighty seven? You guys
want him top five? So let he let you do this,
hang let me do this? Uh expose no Madonna? Which one?
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Eighty seven would have been a s Papa, don't preach?
Who's that girl? There's no Madonna. I just wanted to
choot to guess. Oh man, I thought who's that girl?
Was eighty eight, wasn't it? I thought it was right?
A Was that the movie? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (07:40):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (07:40):
Sweet Child of Mine? No, well that would have been
Fall into the Spring, so maybe not. Okay. Five different artists, okay, wait,
hang on, hang on, hang on with or without you?
You too? Yes? Okay, uh almost Paradise no American tale too?
Five will go? Well it's doing. Let me say eighty
(08:03):
seven I got with her without you you two?
Speaker 4 (08:07):
Hmmm?
Speaker 1 (08:10):
One of these is uh Breeze favorite artists? Prince? No? Oh,
Michael Jackson bad? No? Now, I was saying one of
her favorite arts. I'm just like, was Michael Jackson bad
one of them? No? No? Wow, your favorite artist is
bon Jovi. Oh, I'll be there for you. Living on
a prayer eighty seven, Living on a prayer, I thought
there was earlier. Okay, whoa, whoa Tommy, Yeah, g yeah,
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that's that fits though for season by. Oh yeah, and
you can just play that loop for Tommy used to
live in the upside down, Gino went to find him.
They're down on their luck. All the rest of the
people are dead.
Speaker 5 (08:47):
Wow so dead, wow wow, okay wow whoa? All right,
took it to a very bad The thing is, they
went too heavy metal with with Master of Puppets and
Dio and Iron Maiden, so.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
I think they gotta go medal. Let me give you
last three, Give me the artist. I'll tell you the song, Okay, starshit, Oh,
nothing's gonna stop us now, yep, yep, heart alone, these
dreams alone alone, Whitney Houston. I want to dance with somebody. Yes,
there we go. What about come on man? Eighty cent way.
I just ripped off three the top three songs of
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eighty seven. You all you do was give me the artist.
I could have given you entire catalog. Man. My knowledge
a pretty good of the late eighties early nineties and
pop music is really really good. Trust me, it's okay.
Sports TV music, pop music of the late eighties early nineties.
When I started when I was doing the morning show
playing music all the time. Jason, Oh yeah, I have
a there's a very short window of knowledge of pop
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music that I have in that amount of time. It's awesome.
I still have a dream of hosting one of those
radio shows where we get to introduce some of those.
Speaker 3 (09:49):
You know, Remember the first time I heard the Whitney
Houston record back when she was a guest on Silver
Spoons Joe Gray and Rick Schroeder on NBC, and I
remember they played the song they played, They played the
Greatest Love of All and I remember at the end
they held up the album and I thought I was
gonna go out and buy it. So here's Whitney Houston.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
Very first. You Aaron just turned seventy five. I had
the biggest crush on Aaron Gray when I was a kid,
Like I'm like that. That's where I realized, Yep, I
like girls because I like Aaron Gray. Like Buck Rodgers
in twentieth century, I loved Aaron Gray. Oh my goodness.
Not so about Silver Spoon's Aaron Gray, but Buck Rodgers
big fan. Now we went back earlier this year, we
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gave you a big bold prediction that involved the Raiders,
and now it's time to look back at it. Midway
through the season, we talked about how the AFC West
is going to be the toughest division in football, and
so far it seems that way. We said, now, listen,
Denver's gonna be really good. I'm up on the Chargers.
It's gonna be a tough slog, but the Chiefs are
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still really good too. Right, right top to bottom, we
got the AFC West right and the end of the
Big Bowl prediction for the Raiders was they'll be the
best last place team in the NFL. Now you look
at the other last place teams in the NFL, there's
only one you can argue with. Okay, because the Raiders
have played a pretty tough schedule, but their last place
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in the AFC West, they played a pretty tough schedule.
They're better than the Tennessee Titans, better than the Browns,
better than the Jets, So already they're the best last
place team in the AFCU NFC. They're better than the Giants. Sure,
they're better than the Saints. Okay, better than the Cardinals.
The only team is Minnesota at four and four at
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the bottom of the NFC North. But they're only a
couple of games out of first place. That's the one
thing where I could say, yeah, all right, maybe right
now the Raiders in the last place power rankings. The
Raiders right now are second. Now, they're time, they have
time to get up there. They have time to get
up there. But we got the Vikings and the Cardinals
are better. The Cardinals are a top twelve defense. They're terrible.
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They're playing Jacoby Brisset at quarterback. Man, come on, you
want him Gino right now. No, that's a good point
you want. But the fact that the Raiders are this
good while playing Gino I think works better for them
than it does for you for your Cardinals. See this
means the Denver stinks. Let's focus the last place team. No,
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I get that, but last place to power then Vikings
number one, Raiders number two, That's where I'll go for
the the last place power Right there, they're on the
metal stand. There's no question about it. I've got them third.
But you know I'm partial too. If the Raiders the
Cardinals right now, I would like to say the Raiders
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Cardinals game would be ten to seven. But that's what
we had to stay with. The Broncos Raiders Cardinals might
be four to three where safety starts it out to nothing,
so Gino's taking two safeties. Geno takes a safety, the
Cardinals lead to nothing, Raiders kick a field goal, although
we watched Carlson miss tonight but too and then with
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a chance to salt the game away, they fumble the
ball near their own end zone and the Cardinals fall
on it for a safety, and it could be like
one of those four to three kind of games when
you're living on the edge. A forty eight yard field
goal keeps it a ten to seven game. That's really
the score of Gami, the NFL scorer, Gomi. I hope
that would happen at some point my life is I
want to see a game end four to four, for
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each team gets two safeties and they can't do anything
in overtime. Now, that would be fair four four. That'd
be the best score of Goami. And of course that
would be a game. Probably would be a Raiders Jets game,
or I mean, it's gotta be a Thursday night football.
So we have Al just walk off the set. Oh yeah, yeah, Raiders.
He just says, I'm done. I would say, though, the Raiders, Jets,
Browns between those three teams, and we're probably playing in
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that game because I mean, obviously we did not have
the benefit of the audio tonight. But I got to
imagine he was fairly incensed. I saw at least several
promos where it was like, here's the almanak. Oh, so
let's go back in the way back machine, because you
really don't want to talk about this game. He's really
really mad. It's it's not even close. Al's like, why
do I do this again? Like this is night where
Al goes home to his wife and goes home and
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sits there and at the end and sits and goes
why do I do this again? Tell me why I
got on a plane on Wednesdays? Tell me why I
go do this? Why go do these games? Why don't
tell me why I go do this? Well, because Al,
they're paying you a lot of money. No I know,
but I've made a lot of money. Why do tell
me why I do this again? I just see him
in a in a big room with a roaring fireplace
and and like some sort of like bear skin actual
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Chicago bears like rug on the ground, and he's got
like a Brandy sniff or and he's saying, tell me
why I do this? Tell me why I go out
and do this. Well, I think most people have at
least one of those moments a week, all right, a month, okay,
where their motivation. Yeah, but Al is like it's every Thursday. Yeah. No,
some are obviously worse than others. And this one today
was tough. Do you think Al would want a flexible
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will flex out games? He was, I get four games
a year, I can flex out of superpower I'm and
then you get to do that, like what at the
end of the Monday night game, all of a sudden
we beam live. He's got that brand. Hey, I'm flexing out.
He's got the brandy and he's got a fire roaring
behind him like he's the Joker dog, like a bit
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like a Sa Bernard. Next to him, he's penning it
going I'm flexing out of this and CHRISA. Thompson goes
in and does play by play or something. Well, no,
I'm not saying he flexes out. He gets to change
the game to something that's more interesting to him.
Speaker 5 (15:25):
No.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
I think I'd rather see Al flex flex flex himself out.
I would like to see that. Yeah, and then he's
got a he gets to pick from a seven or
eight people that are on staff. Sure, he just decides,
all right, you're in for me. Yeah, okay, I can
go talk to Kirk about his dog. Yeah. Or or
just to just to see him actually making the announcement,
like on a Monday night at halftime of the Monday
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night game, just to see him flexing out, pushes Boomer
off the screen like he's the joker in Batman, like
he did to the mayor. Like my turn now, Boomer,
get out of here, fastest three minutes. It's mine and
I'm flexing out. Can you do the fastest three minutes?
I had the longest three and a half hours. Okay,
that's what this game was tonight for me. Exit out
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Sports Radio studios. So we'll lot more on Thursday Night
football coming up in a few minutes. But a big
(18:20):
story today, a multi billion billion dollar, ten billion dollar
story today, ESPN bet is no longer ESPN sports Book
which had a big ten billion dollar deal struck with
them about a year and a half ago. Now both
sides are out of this agreement. Now, there was a
(18:43):
big deal a week ago when you're talking about a
big the big gambling scandal in the NBA that while
Get Up was on TV and Mike Greenberg is talking
about the scandal, that there's a big ad for Hey,
bet tonight, ESPN bet everything else. Really, really, what really
awkward moment for em now was that the reason why
it was taking why the the agreement was negated. No,
(19:06):
it's just a bad optic. But really it wasn't doing well.
Like any business, it's not doing well, and ESPN taking
a dive into into sports books and trying to figure
that out didn't go well. There are other entities that
were better. Dave Portnoy talked about it this morning. I
think on Fox's Hey, you know we we were a
better partner, uh for for betting and look at it
(19:26):
just happens that way. Now this is not just about betting,
but in a in a week in which boy, ESPN
is really showing that, hey we are we are leaking water.
We had the YouTube controversy from this week. Still the
ESPN YouTube dilemma is not solved and they're losing five
million a day. You know, people from YouTube money, the ratings,
(19:50):
you're you're you're not getting as many people watching the
Monday Night game, right, you saw like how many how
many million was it off from where it was a
year ago because people that are watching on YouTube now
he got all the hosts that look like they're doing
a telethon, begging you while selling you their app to
give you thirty dollars a month to watch sports. Now,
(20:11):
this is this is a bit of a business conversation,
but it's important one to have because I can tell
you the future ESPN and for me, look, I'm working
in those walls for a long time. ESPN has always
been a meat and potatoes company. Here's here's shack, here's
the highlights, here's the sports. That's what they were. When
I was there as a production assistant in the early nineties,
(20:34):
everybody wanted to come in and find a way to
be creative. They were like, listen, don't be too creative again.
In the end, everybody wants to see shack, They want
to see highlights, and that's what we got to give them. Okay.
Then I got there in radio in the early two
thousands and it was have fun, but not too much fun.
Everybody wants sports, right, don't get too personal. And then
you know, I've told many stories in the past of
(20:54):
how every six months that would change. Tell more personal stories,
don't tell personal stories. But ESPN has always been a
meat and potatoes. We give you the sports right. And
for a long time that worked because ESPN basically ran unopposed.
The sports fan was underserved, and ESPN here's a big
cable channel that devoted entirely to sports. Yeah, you're gonna
(21:18):
run unopposed for a long time, right. Food Network's running
on a posed for a long time because it's hard
to get some stars and going to get another food
channel that's gonna go up against Guy Fieri and Food Network.
But everything comes to an end. And the biggest thing
I can tell you for ESPN right now, I'll give
you this Bowld prediction. ESPN is gonna get sold by
(21:38):
Disney sometime in the next years, maybe after the Super Bowl,
because they have the Super Bowl coming up in a
couple I think it's a twenty twenty seven super Bowl,
twenty twenty eight, one of those two. It's gonna get
sold because ESPN is hemorrhaging product, and they're also because
they're such a meat and potatoes industry and meat potatoes company.
They are having a lot of trouble adapting to current
(22:02):
habits and how sports are consumed by fans, by people
who want to consume only specific sports, by people who
want just the gambling aspect of it. Tell me the
last time ESPN's gone out on a big venture and
they've succeeded because they get outside their comfort zone and
(22:22):
it just doesn't work. Because they do one thing great. Right,
we give you the sport, we give you the sports. Okay, Well, now,
as we mentioned earlier this week with the ESPN YouTube thing,
people are gonna find out they can get along well
without ESPN if they go to YouTube, because they can
get college football anywhere else. I may not get Alabama Tennessee,
but I'll get Oregon Penn State, and I'll watch that instead,
(22:44):
and I'll get the highlights of something else. Right. I
may not get Monday Night football, but you know what,
if I really want to watch the game, I'll go
to a friend's house or I'll go to a bar.
I still get all the games on Sunday. I get
Thursday Night football because I stream it on Amazon. I'm
not underserved. No one is under served in sports anymore.
And now ESPN again they've done one thing great, and
(23:06):
they continue to do that. Live programming is there a
big thing, but now you get live programming for a
lot of other places. So what's ESPN doing? Hey, we're
trying to figure out our way into new forays with
different things. We're hiring different talent, we're hiring different companies
again in business with us. And you see this ESPN
bet is a big fail and now they're not getting along.
(23:26):
And how many more Disney carriage wars do we need
to see involving ESPN and some cable company that we
need to charge more money? Well, you know what, I'm sorry,
but maybe you have to realize your ESPN the days
of those profits and what you did. This is a
new landscape and you can't do it as well as
some other places do. Now nobody else out ESPN's ESPN,
(23:48):
But there's other factions that, hey, we can do this,
and we can do this this part of it better
than you can. We can do the gambling aspect better
than you can. We can do this kind of show
better than you can. We can give you the same,
the same experience of live sports, the same as you.
And ESPN has struggled in that in the new in
this new era of what's next, how do we evolve?
(24:11):
Do they bring in people that are the young, up
and coming programmers or is this a lot of people
that have been there for a long time. Hey, this
is what we do, and this is what we've been
doing for you know, since nineteen seventy nine we came
on the air. ESPN is going to continue to descend
and it's never going to get to a point where
they hit rock bottom. But the salad days of them
(24:32):
being the the absolute number one place to go for
sports and being where they can we can name our
price for carriage fees, we can we can spend whatever
money we want to on this venture. That's going to
be done, and eventually Disney's gonna say, you know what,
ESPN just the last few years ago, in the last decade,
they're not where sports is right now. They're not on
(24:52):
the cutting edge. They're not where sports is going, which
is streaming different aspects, different avenues to consume on social
media on the This is not where ESPN is going.
And Disney's gonna say, you know what, We're gonna sell
ESPN off because somebody else has got to be in
charge of it. They're gonna make thirty billion dollars whatever
it is selling ESPN. Whatever they're gonna make, they'll make,
(25:13):
They'll make tons of money, but they're gonna sell it
off because it's not gonna be as big money maker.
And then someone's gonna buy ESPN. That's gonna say, now
we're taking you into the latter part of the first
half of the twenty first century. There's gonna be big changes,
and the ESPN you knew is gonna be gone replaced
by a different ESPN. So we're in the dying stages
now the next couple of years of this is what
(25:36):
ESPN is. Then eventually they're gonna spin it off, and
whoever comes in next to buy it, who knows. Maybe
it's Amazon, maybe it's maybe it's Elon Musk. I don't
help somebody with that kind of money is gonna buy
ESPN and say, Okay, this is how we think sports
are going into the future. This is what we're gonna do.
Look at the changes NBC has made to the NBA already,
and they're just back into the game for all of
(25:57):
a week and a half. Right now, Wait a minute,
we're streaming these games. I can't see it starting a
game eight o'clock at night. Hey, you're gonna get this
new idea. Whoever buys is gonna try to say we're
doing things new, and it's gonna be a new everything
for ESPN. That's gonna happen. Now you have a brand
valuation according to a Forbes report from twenty twenty three
that puts it in that twenty five to thirty billion
range that you speak of, a lot of it becomes
(26:19):
the what is the brand value? I don't think that
the value is necessarily to that level anymore because to me,
a lot of it with games, and obviously we're a
different subset, you and I those that work in our business,
Like especially we're on air, I don't hear what's being said, right.
(26:39):
I might go back and if someone sends me a
clip of what old Troy and Joe have to say,
I'll hear it. Otherwise I'm watching the game and guess what,
that game can be televised by anybody. And that no
disrespect to the great camera people, the folks working in
the trucks, all the folks behind the scenes. But it's ubiquitous, right,
it moves, it's fluid whoever's got the dollars to push it.
(27:01):
This thing with ESPN bet was just the latest example.
It's the second time that Penn has done a terrible
deal only to have to bail on it at another day.
Of course, remember Dave Portnoy was able to get Barstool
back for a dollar after selling it to Pen for
over five hundred million, So a couple of big bites
at the Apple that didn't quite pay off the same way.
(27:24):
I mean, this is a multi billion dollar ten year
approach that is now being aboarded and Draftking slides in
new partner reboot a name known, trusted and again ubiquitous
in our sports TV and radio space. But when we
talk about putting the ESPN brand on top of bet
(27:44):
it's in congress for a lot of folks, and you're
not gonna suddenly it's it's switching costs like anything else, Like, well,
I have my accounts set up here. What am I
getting over there that is going to be different? Right?
What insights, what advantages, what incentivization is there for me
to switch? Otherwise I'm gonna keep betting with whom I'm betting,
(28:05):
whether that's a legal sportsbook or folks that are still
in the back alley of a bar. Like it's all
of that for ESPN as you go through, I mean,
we look at how easily you can reboot some of
these things to say they didn't spend a lot of
time and money at what they did at NBC. But
they're up and going like they've been doing it for
a couple of years again. Already, Right, we watched the
(28:27):
Prime Product tonight. Do you see any big difference between
that and what you're getting from ESPN? H I get
enough highlights on my Instagram and Twitter feeds, TikTok, whatever
social media I got. Am I watching Sports Center? No,
I'm not, you know what I mean? Like all of
those things that used to have a huge value proposition.
(28:49):
And I don't think I speak just for myself. I
think for a lot of folks that are dialed in
and sports is what they consume, they know it now.
Maybe they still like a certain personality, but I don't
think that's sell anymore. Right, the days of Dan and
Keith leading you down that highway are long in the
rear view mirror. So as you move forward into the
next age, it's all right, Well, who designs the killer
(29:11):
app that brings everything together? Your fantasy, your betting, your highlights,
all of those things. Personalities? Fine, how do I get
the games easily? The carriage fees thing is laughable again
because you've got so many other streaming competitors that give
you pieces. Right, if I'm a big SEC fan, then yeah,
(29:31):
I'm paying whatever the piper needs for my SEC. But
if it's for any other conference, I'm not doing that. Like,
that's not how folks are wired. Like, It's not an
all consuming space, and college sports seems to be that
one area that you would try to lean into the
rabid fan base saying well they really was like, yeah,
but they don't care about the rest of it. They
just don't like, if you're a big ten guy, you
(29:53):
pay attention to everything else and how it affects your team,
but you're not killing yourself to go spend three hours
to watch no no, no, Right. And likewise, the NBA,
we laugh at it. Now start times whatever. You don't
need to watch all eighty two of every team in
the NBA. Sorry. The only thing that still has that
bit of sanctity to it is the NFL. And even then,
(30:15):
it's so spread out at this point that folks have
been conditioned to use red zone or whatever. So the
YouTube TV they keep off for me every week, I
got it. Hey, come back. By the way, you still
need to pay the eighty two dollars a month for
the basic package and then you can still pay us
for the NFL. It's like, no, no, no, no, that's
that's the thing here. If you want to get rid
of YouTube, you're gonna lose the NFL. Back. Wait, why
(30:37):
am I using that? That's the deal. But here's the thing.
On the day after I get to watch this show
on this streamer and that streamer, I don't have to
pay you eighty two dollars. My piece mail is about
a third of that. Right, So for ESPN to try
to it was a ten dollars charge the last I saw,
which means they're trying to get just a little bit more.
And you know, with so many different options out there,
(31:00):
how many more are your hemorrhaging off. It's a losing proposition.
They'll go through the Super Bowl and then they'll probably
sell an uptick or the year of the super Bowl,
and it's going to be a big deal for Disney
and they'll get at and they'll say, you know what,
We're not good at the sports business anymore, right, Like,
like what did Fox do? Hey? Fox is one of
the greatest film companies for so many long but you
(31:20):
know what Fox has changed the last twenty years, So
what did they do, Hey, we're selling off the movie
business because that's not who we are anymore. And it
was a big deal. But you understand, okay, now you're
glad that certain certain businesses are in the hands of
people that hey, I get the modern era and we
push it forward. But yeah, I mean, just the visuals
of all of this stuff, right, you got this carriage
(31:41):
rights deal. You've got whatever the hell's going on with
the game that everybody was playing right there, Solitaire game.
So a lot of fights and slap fights about that.
But the whole thing with the carriage rights is just
laughable because in the same breath, it's kind of like
when they were argue about, hey, betting's got to be gone. Meanwhile,
(32:02):
go place a bet on our app. Is the we're
fighting for this. Oh by the way, go spend thirty
dollars on the app so you can watch this stuff.
It's like, well, where am I supposed to go? Like,
which is more important to you? This heartstring violin behind
me to go get my YouTube TV restored with your programming,
or do you want me to be on your app
(32:22):
which is supposedly all encompassing or Are you telling me
there's a lot I'm not getting there that's now exclusive
to YouTube TV. Please parse that out for me. No,
it's bad business. Exit out about a Fresco exit swollen dome.
Jason Smith Mike Harman live from the Fox Sports Radio
studios Tom Now to find out what's trending in the
wide world of sports. B Bureau has everything that happened
(32:42):
tonight with what's trending, including what I'm sure is the
number one game for her, which was the number one
beating the Clippers as bad as they did. We also
have Thursday Night football with the Broncos getting by the
Raiders ten to seven. We got tons of stuff happening
right here.
Speaker 2 (33:01):
Hey, guys, I'm sorry, it was recording the overnight updates.
Speaker 1 (33:05):
I'm so. I apologize. Anyways, I where were we at?
Where you guys talking? Sorry? So I told everybody that
your sons want tonight? Oh yes, Can I start with that?
Speaker 2 (33:15):
Oh my gosh, oh my god, that's so exciting. Okay,
So only one game, the premiere game of like all
Western Conference games. Okay, the Suns defeated the Clippers one
fifteen to one oh two. Jalen Green finished with twenty
nine points in his son's debut, which is like really
really exciting. So I hope Houston just totally regrets that,
you know, kind of the whole Just heads up. I
(33:35):
think the NBA Cup does start tomorrow, so we're going
to see a lot of those colored courts and stuff.
So that'll be really interesting about that, the Emirates Cup,
So that should be really fun going into the weekend
where nobody cares.
Speaker 1 (33:47):
But oh sure, but the courts will look fun. So yes,
what's good?
Speaker 2 (33:50):
Yeah, this is like the first year of my life
that I genuinely do not care about the NBA. Like
I am just in football mode. And maybe because I'm
working here, I just I'm just in a different mode.
Speaker 1 (33:58):
Right, Like I just watched the Come on, tell everybody
who your favorite team is. I'm a Saints fan. Yeah,
you still love football this year? Congratulations? Doesn't that mean
something like your real fan? You just like me, you're
a real fan my team States, But I still love it.
Isn't that what? I think? We need?
Speaker 2 (34:16):
This therapy, Jason, I don't know. So maybe we can
get a deal like some kind of like work discount.
Speaker 1 (34:21):
I don't know. Oh, you think anyody's gonna take our cases.
Who you root for the Jets and the Saints? Yeah,
nothing I could do for you. I'm sorry, surprise. We
don't have those billboards up and down the four or five.
Here's Harbaugh and Justin Herbert, accident attorneys and people to
help you with your desisports very true? That should be.
Speaker 2 (34:37):
That's gonna be our next end, but.
Speaker 1 (34:39):
Our next financial venture.
Speaker 2 (34:41):
Okay, Thursday Night football, the Broncos has defeated the Raiders
ten to seven. Gino Smith sacked a total of six times,
which I feel like is gonna be very traumatizing for him.
One hundred and forty three yards sixteen to twenty six
and one pick. Bonix not really that much better one
hundred and fifty yards sixteen to twenty eight, one touchdown
and two picks. News around the league, Rock Party is
(35:03):
getting closer to a returning but the team will make
a decision on Friday whether or not he'll actually suit
up and play versus the Rams, according to the head
coach Kyle Shanahan, and a wide receiver Cooper Cup was
limited in practice as Tory Horton was held out even
though he practiced yesterday. But I guess he might have
suffered a set back. Not sure, but TVD whether or
not he'll play on Sunday.
Speaker 1 (35:21):
Back to you guys, Thanks a bunch, Pree coming up next. Okay, So,
if we said earlier this hour, no NFL team is
great right now, which is kind of a shock. It's
an outlier that midway through the season, everybody's got problems.
How about two teams that I expect in the next
month to become great teams? Cleveland. Yeah, he'll beat the
(35:41):
Jets on Sunday. That's anybody can that's next right here,
Jason and Mike Fox Sports Radio. Why didn't you guys
beat somebody? Yeah? Last week? Who we beat the Bills?
Speaker 5 (35:49):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (35:50):
They should be executed. Wow? Yeah they're done. Wow. That
escalated quickly. You'd be a very harsh commissioner of the NFL.
What I or going to be a good one?
Speaker 4 (35:57):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (35:58):
I think you'd be harsh. Is that what it's called?
People would want to see the games you give. If
you're eliminating teams, eventually you're gonna get down to the
Browns and the Jets every week. I'm just gonna embrace
the betting community and just do Guillotine League for you.
I was gonna say, he went guillotine legit, Okay, I
knew that's that. That was really good guillotine. Yeah, did
you really think it was guillotine? Did you know guillotine?
(36:19):
You sure? Okay? Good? Yeah, you knew the word like creatine, Yes,
same exact thing, same exact thing. Yes, they cut off
your creatae. Yeah, very nice. Okay, thank you. Be sure
to catch live editions of The Jason Smith Show with
Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven pm Pacific,
Fox Sports Radio The Jason Smith Show with My best
(36:39):
friend Mike Harmon. So if tonight is a night the
Broncos not a great eight and two team, right there's
no unbeatable team in the NFL. Right now, there's not
even two or three teams you could say currently, Hey,
they're the big Super Bowl favorites. Normally we have two
or three teams by now we don't. It's an outlier year.
(37:03):
It's a very strange year in the NFL. But to
push it forward and say, nobody, if you said to me,
what team in the next month will become that team?
What team will become hey? Okay, So when we get
into middle of December, hey, Okay, this team with three
four weeks left in the season, Yes, these are your favorites.
(37:24):
I'll give you. I'll give you a team in the AFC,
and I'll give a team in the NFC. Oka hit
me in the AFC. I expect the Buffalo Bills to
continue to rise and rise above everybody else, get up
ahead of the New England Patriots, who just have an
easy schedule. They're not that good. But the Bills seem
to be figuring things out. They didn't go out and
get a big receiver at the deadline like we thought. However,
(37:47):
maybe Dalton Kincaid is becoming Josh Allen's go to guy.
Maybe this is how the offense evolves. James Cook driven
and it's a little bit less Josh Allen and a
little bit more middle of the field when they throw
the football. I expect the Bills, the weather getting colder
in the next month, for them to kind of reel
off a bunch of wins. And they're sitting there at
(38:08):
like ten and two, eleven and two with with with
a month left, and we're saying, okay, yep, no Bills.
Are Bills are that favorite in the a f C.
That's the team. I expect to see them do it
for the easiest schedule remaining. UH on tankathon dot com
near my go to for those such things, put them
in and schedules and UH and all the the ratings
(38:33):
to date. The fact that the Bears are still on
the tough team ledger is is pretty fun to meet.
That's pretty cool. But they should be on the top team.
Crime promoted the Black Riding game a couple of NFC
heavy Now that's good. In the a f C. I'm
gonna go to the Baltimore Ravens. No, look at you,
(38:53):
it's gonna be over five hundred, all right, I mean,
look you you've got a bunch of buster teams. Uh
ty shirts Cleveland rounds two games against the Bengals, the Jets,
Uh still to come. It doesn't just gives you winning. Well,
but but that's the thing, right, The long road begins
with the first step, and the first thing you have
to do is climb over all the crap. That is true.
(39:15):
That is true. So for the Ravens coming from where
they were with crap, well no, but you also saw
in that game against the Bears and and take with
the Bears. You know the grain of salt, like I
told you they were going to lose that game regardless
of who quarterbacked, and well, that was right, But I'm
just covered in we gotta get out of it, that's right,
Like Swake. I mean I crawled through how many hundreds
(39:36):
of yards? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, lots, But I mean for
the Ravens, the big il if anybody could possibly imagine
having to crawl through the Jets and the Browns. But
you got Hamilton back, you got uh Rokwan Smith back. Defensively,
you're playing better football offensively, as long as the line's
healthy and Lamar's upright, you got a chance. Now. I disagree,
(39:59):
but I hope you're right, because that means we're not
talking about the Steelers anymore, pretending that they're good. Well,
they got to play the Steelers twice, and I think
they you know, those will be three point games. I'm cool.
It's a matter of which side of the coin flo.
I'm cool with it with with the Steelers becoming who
who who I know they are, and and that nobody
else seems to know you hate them, I'm okay with that.
I gotta disagree, but I hope you're right. I'm I'm
(40:21):
rooting for you on this, but you know, the Patriots
still have the easiest schedule remaining football league not rooting
for them, only two games on that plus side, one
of which is against those said Bills. So we got
more from the AFC West showdown tonight between the Broncos
and the Raiders. Got a hot take coming up next.
Plus who's that NFC team that's going to be great
in the next month. That's next, Chason and Mike Fox
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(00:25):
Sports Radio. Greetings, Welcome in Side hour three The Jason
Smith Show with my best friend Mike Harmon. Now we'll
get back into TNF in a second. Do we have
to well, well, because there's we got to look back
at a big bull prediction we made earlier this season
(00:46):
that the Raiders were gonna stinks. It has to do
with the Raiders. It's a little bull it got it
has to do with the Raiders. But I'm excited. I'm
very excited because now I'm gonna countdown. You're gonna countdown
because if you remember it now, it's going back into
bull predictions. If you go back, and I'm going back
now to when the end of Stranger Thing season four
(01:07):
and I talked about how ridiculous that running up that
Hill song was. It was ridiculous. Yeah, I take it
over the popularity of it. I'm sure it was just
some producer who was like, this song meant so much
to me in the eighties, and you're gonna make this
the big song for Sadie's sink. And they were like, yeah, sure,
what happened, But is it also a producer who might
have gone into the marketplace and bought shares, like because
(01:28):
music gets sold. Now that said, you know what, if
I can get this on this show, those are they're
shorting the market, That is what you were saying. I
could make a ton of money if I can get
this some run. And they said, yeah, sure, why not,
Well we'll make it. We're making a song that no
one's ever heard of. Yes, that means so much to
you from the eighties. Yeah, rock and roll Hall of Fame.
I mean, come on, here's the thing. Yeah, you've been
hearing the song on the show for the better part
(01:51):
of the last what three years?
Speaker 2 (01:52):
Right?
Speaker 1 (01:52):
A long time? Okay, because now Billie Bobby Brown is
going to be forty when when season five begins. Tonight
was the premiere. Yeah for Stranger Things season five, the
final season, right in a couple of weeks. We're getting
the first four episodes of the final season of Stranger Things, Right,
we get like four at the end of this month,
(02:13):
and then we get like a couple more on Christmas
and then New Year's Day, something crazy like that. The
final episode of season four was July one, twenty twenty two. Yeah,
it's a long time, man, it's a long time. We've
been running up that hill a long time. My quads
and calves are spect and we've been playing the song
for a long bleaping time. But my deliverance is at hand. Deliverance.
(02:34):
Wait wait, wait, no, you wait, why do you mean
that you're deliverance? Oh no, what does he say in
Shawshank redemption?
Speaker 3 (02:40):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (02:41):
Salvation liath within Oh okay, I think you're referencing that
baby my salvation? Is it? Darn? Darren? Darren, Darren d
n d uh? Is that? I struck a deal with
Alex Tyshert Maybe was a year and a half ago,
and I said, okay, this is the deal. You can
play this song on the show, right, play it on
(03:03):
the show. That's fine, But when the next season begins,
we're done playing that song. And you said, okay, so
you have now I'm counting down. I'm like, you know,
people to kill Billy Madison. I'm like Steve Bushmi, you're
not knocking exes off the list, kill me. You will
know as far as you know, no, but you have
to adhere to our agreement. When season four drops later
(03:26):
on this month, no more running up that hill. It's over.
We don't hear that song on the show again. Ever.
Because you need to be a man of your word.
We said no, I had you had three years in
the fast lane. Man, you have to. But eventually the
devil will come for your soul. Eventually it happens. Eventually
the good times endeth and it ends for you the
(03:47):
end of this month, the day the next season of
Stranger Things drops. Before you respond, Alex, I mean, you're
the one that made the deal, and he said, no,
isn't the devil coming for you? And he agreed to it.
I didn't agree. Look, nobody goes in search of the
devil to say, hey, you got a deal for me, Well, yeah,
give you this fiddle if you beat me and no, Well,
you go down to the cross with great expectation that
(04:08):
the devil showing. The devil searches you out like you.
No one goes looking your Hey, I'm in search of
the devil. No, no one, no, no, lots of people.
There's a big business now. The devil knows no one's
gonna come looking for him. The devil knows. I gotta
go looking for people, right I I gotta get out there.
I can't. I'm not just something. I'm gonna sit on
my throne in hades and people go, hey, devil, it's me.
It's it's Jason, listen. I want to win the World series.
(04:29):
Can help me out. Who's your team? Mets best I
can do as an Nlcs's it all right? Fine, I'll
take it. That's great, appreciate it. Thank you. Yeah, I
got a couple of jit doesn't doesn't so, Alex? What
say you in terms of the deal struck during the
twenty twenty two campaign? Is there evidence?
Speaker 4 (04:51):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (04:51):
We have it saved where in the system. This is trust.
You trusted him that that would still be there. You
trusted him with a he's some sound that would exonerate
you from ever having to hear this again. You trusted
him and you blew it. You know you admitted to it.
I did not, Yes, you did. You admitted to it.
(05:12):
It's right seven seven ninety, it's right here. Let's you,
old kid, it's right where you listen so I can
play it for you? Does I play it for a
hang on? Here we go. This is a tape from
twenty twenty two. Okay, hang on, here we go? Ready,
hang on, ed, all right, I'll let you play this song.
But when the new season of Stranger Things dropped, whenever
that is, it may be in three years, when that
(05:34):
new season drops, you need to not play this song
ever again. What do you mean, Jay? What do you mean?
Speaker 2 (05:42):
What do you mean?
Speaker 1 (05:42):
I want to play it? What do you mean? All right? Fine?
But what do you mean? I understand? What do you mean?
All right? All right, all right, you're right. You're right, Jay,
you're right. We'll do it, all right, you're right. What
do you mean? That sounds so young? Here we go.
That's well, it was three years ago. You were twenty four.
You're twenty four, right there? But yeah, so there you go.
(06:05):
There's the proof I need. Right, Yeah, I called it
up on the compress and had it there. Yeah, that's good.
I really think you had that in your arsenal. That
was pretty good. What are we playing then?
Speaker 4 (06:14):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (06:14):
Then we go back to Goodbye Horses. Can we talk
Silence of the line, We'll talk. What's what's the next
song that Stranger Things tries to get over?
Speaker 5 (06:22):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (06:22):
They did great Greatness from Metallica, who embraced it. They
did eighty seven eighty eight. When does this take place
this last season? Yeah, Lesson's supposed to the end of
the eighties. No, I know, but like it's a specific year,
is it the eighties? Eighties? Okay, yeah, so that could
be eighty eight or eighty nine or eighty nine, eighty
nine recording to an AI overview, Okay, it's the Fall
(06:46):
of eighty seven. So we're getting guns and roses. Oh,
that would be guns and red. Guns and Roses is
too popular though, although you would have thinked they would say, hey,
we're gonna use Master of Puppets. Oh no, people are
just gonna think about the old school scene. No, no, no,
we're going to use that. So Fall of eighty seven
was guns and roses. Could get guns and roses. Welcome
to the jungle, Welcome to the upside down. We got
fun and games, or walk like an Egyptian. We been
(07:08):
dancing with mister Vectna. He's been turning things upside down?
Have the top five songs from eighty seven? You guys
want him top five? So let he let you do this,
hang let me do this? Uh expose no Madonna? Which one?
(07:28):
Eighty seven would have been a s Papa, don't preach?
Who's that girl? There's no Madonna. I just wanted to
choot to guess. Oh man, I thought who's that girl?
Was eighty eight, wasn't it? I thought it was right?
A Was that the movie? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (07:40):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (07:40):
Sweet Child of Mine? No, well that would have been
Fall into the Spring, so maybe not. Okay. Five different artists, okay, wait,
hang on, hang on, hang on with or without you?
You too? Yes? Okay, uh almost Paradise no American tale too?
Five will go? Well it's doing. Let me say eighty
(08:03):
seven I got with her without you you two?
Speaker 4 (08:07):
Hmmm?
Speaker 1 (08:10):
One of these is uh Breeze favorite artists? Prince? No? Oh,
Michael Jackson bad? No? Now, I was saying one of
her favorite arts. I'm just like, was Michael Jackson bad
one of them? No? No? Wow, your favorite artist is
bon Jovi. Oh, I'll be there for you. Living on
a prayer eighty seven, Living on a prayer, I thought
there was earlier. Okay, whoa, whoa Tommy, Yeah, g yeah,
(08:33):
that's that fits though for season by. Oh yeah, and
you can just play that loop for Tommy used to
live in the upside down, Gino went to find him.
They're down on their luck. All the rest of the
people are dead.
Speaker 5 (08:47):
Wow so dead, wow wow, okay wow whoa? All right,
took it to a very bad The thing is, they
went too heavy metal with with Master of Puppets and
Dio and Iron Maiden, so.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
I think they gotta go medal. Let me give you
last three, Give me the artist. I'll tell you the song, Okay, starshit, Oh,
nothing's gonna stop us now, yep, yep, heart alone, these
dreams alone alone, Whitney Houston. I want to dance with somebody. Yes,
there we go. What about come on man? Eighty cent way.
I just ripped off three the top three songs of
(09:21):
eighty seven. You all you do was give me the artist.
I could have given you entire catalog. Man. My knowledge
a pretty good of the late eighties early nineties and
pop music is really really good. Trust me, it's okay.
Sports TV music, pop music of the late eighties early nineties.
When I started when I was doing the morning show
playing music all the time. Jason, Oh yeah, I have
a there's a very short window of knowledge of pop
(09:42):
music that I have in that amount of time. It's awesome.
I still have a dream of hosting one of those
radio shows where we get to introduce some of those.
Speaker 3 (09:49):
You know, Remember the first time I heard the Whitney
Houston record back when she was a guest on Silver
Spoons Joe Gray and Rick Schroeder on NBC, and I
remember they played the song they played, They played the
Greatest Love of All and I remember at the end
they held up the album and I thought I was
gonna go out and buy it. So here's Whitney Houston.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
Very first. You Aaron just turned seventy five. I had
the biggest crush on Aaron Gray when I was a kid,
Like I'm like that. That's where I realized, Yep, I
like girls because I like Aaron Gray. Like Buck Rodgers
in twentieth century, I loved Aaron Gray. Oh my goodness.
Not so about Silver Spoon's Aaron Gray, but Buck Rodgers
big fan. Now we went back earlier this year, we
(10:29):
gave you a big bold prediction that involved the Raiders,
and now it's time to look back at it. Midway
through the season, we talked about how the AFC West
is going to be the toughest division in football, and
so far it seems that way. We said, now, listen,
Denver's gonna be really good. I'm up on the Chargers.
It's gonna be a tough slog, but the Chiefs are
(10:51):
still really good too. Right, right top to bottom, we
got the AFC West right and the end of the
Big Bowl prediction for the Raiders was they'll be the
best last place team in the NFL. Now you look
at the other last place teams in the NFL, there's
only one you can argue with. Okay, because the Raiders
have played a pretty tough schedule, but their last place
(11:13):
in the AFC West, they played a pretty tough schedule.
They're better than the Tennessee Titans, better than the Browns,
better than the Jets, So already they're the best last
place team in the AFCU NFC. They're better than the Giants. Sure,
they're better than the Saints. Okay, better than the Cardinals.
The only team is Minnesota at four and four at
(11:37):
the bottom of the NFC North. But they're only a
couple of games out of first place. That's the one
thing where I could say, yeah, all right, maybe right
now the Raiders in the last place power rankings. The
Raiders right now are second. Now, they're time, they have
time to get up there. They have time to get
up there. But we got the Vikings and the Cardinals
are better. The Cardinals are a top twelve defense. They're terrible.
(12:00):
They're playing Jacoby Brisset at quarterback. Man, come on, you
want him Gino right now. No, that's a good point
you want. But the fact that the Raiders are this
good while playing Gino I think works better for them
than it does for you for your Cardinals. See this
means the Denver stinks. Let's focus the last place team. No,
(12:21):
I get that, but last place to power then Vikings
number one, Raiders number two, That's where I'll go for
the the last place power Right there, they're on the
metal stand. There's no question about it. I've got them third.
But you know I'm partial too. If the Raiders the
Cardinals right now, I would like to say the Raiders
(12:41):
Cardinals game would be ten to seven. But that's what
we had to stay with. The Broncos Raiders Cardinals might
be four to three where safety starts it out to nothing,
so Gino's taking two safeties. Geno takes a safety, the
Cardinals lead to nothing, Raiders kick a field goal, although
we watched Carlson miss tonight but too and then with
(13:03):
a chance to salt the game away, they fumble the
ball near their own end zone and the Cardinals fall
on it for a safety, and it could be like
one of those four to three kind of games when
you're living on the edge. A forty eight yard field
goal keeps it a ten to seven game. That's really
the score of Gami, the NFL scorer, Gomi. I hope
that would happen at some point my life is I
want to see a game end four to four, for
(13:25):
each team gets two safeties and they can't do anything
in overtime. Now, that would be fair four four. That'd
be the best score of Goami. And of course that
would be a game. Probably would be a Raiders Jets game,
or I mean, it's gotta be a Thursday night football.
So we have Al just walk off the set. Oh yeah, yeah, Raiders.
He just says, I'm done. I would say, though, the Raiders, Jets,
Browns between those three teams, and we're probably playing in
(13:46):
that game because I mean, obviously we did not have
the benefit of the audio tonight. But I got to
imagine he was fairly incensed. I saw at least several
promos where it was like, here's the almanak. Oh, so
let's go back in the way back machine, because you
really don't want to talk about this game. He's really
really mad. It's it's not even close. Al's like, why
do I do this again? Like this is night where
Al goes home to his wife and goes home and
(14:07):
sits there and at the end and sits and goes
why do I do this again? Tell me why I
got on a plane on Wednesdays? Tell me why I
go do this? Why go do these games? Why don't
tell me why I go do this? Well, because Al,
they're paying you a lot of money. No I know,
but I've made a lot of money. Why do tell
me why I do this again? I just see him
in a in a big room with a roaring fireplace
and and like some sort of like bear skin actual
(14:29):
Chicago bears like rug on the ground, and he's got
like a Brandy sniff or and he's saying, tell me
why I do this? Tell me why I go out
and do this. Well, I think most people have at
least one of those moments a week, all right, a month, okay,
where their motivation. Yeah, but Al is like it's every Thursday. Yeah. No,
some are obviously worse than others. And this one today
was tough. Do you think Al would want a flexible
(14:52):
will flex out games? He was, I get four games
a year, I can flex out of superpower I'm and
then you get to do that, like what at the
end of the Monday night game, all of a sudden
we beam live. He's got that brand. Hey, I'm flexing out.
He's got the brandy and he's got a fire roaring
behind him like he's the Joker dog, like a bit
(15:14):
like a Sa Bernard. Next to him, he's penning it
going I'm flexing out of this and CHRISA. Thompson goes
in and does play by play or something. Well, no,
I'm not saying he flexes out. He gets to change
the game to something that's more interesting to him.
Speaker 5 (15:25):
No.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
I think I'd rather see Al flex flex flex himself out.
I would like to see that. Yeah, and then he's
got a he gets to pick from a seven or
eight people that are on staff. Sure, he just decides,
all right, you're in for me. Yeah, okay, I can
go talk to Kirk about his dog. Yeah. Or or
just to just to see him actually making the announcement,
like on a Monday night at halftime of the Monday
(15:46):
night game, just to see him flexing out, pushes Boomer
off the screen like he's the joker in Batman, like
he did to the mayor. Like my turn now, Boomer,
get out of here, fastest three minutes. It's mine and
I'm flexing out. Can you do the fastest three minutes?
I had the longest three and a half hours. Okay,
that's what this game was tonight for me. Exit out
about a Fresca exit swallow down. We got more NFL
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How fast this went from the Pistons to Joe Bluth?
Just how fast it when Stoddbuster Stopedbuster Jason Smith Show
with my best friend Mike Harmon live from the Fox
Sports Radio studios. So we'll lot more on Thursday Night
football coming up in a few minutes. But a big
(18:20):
story today, a multi billion billion dollar, ten billion dollar
story today, ESPN bet is no longer ESPN sports Book
which had a big ten billion dollar deal struck with
them about a year and a half ago. Now both
sides are out of this agreement. Now, there was a
(18:43):
big deal a week ago when you're talking about a
big the big gambling scandal in the NBA that while
Get Up was on TV and Mike Greenberg is talking
about the scandal, that there's a big ad for Hey,
bet tonight, ESPN bet everything else. Really, really, what really
awkward moment for em now was that the reason why
it was taking why the the agreement was negated. No,
(19:06):
it's just a bad optic. But really it wasn't doing well.
Like any business, it's not doing well, and ESPN taking
a dive into into sports books and trying to figure
that out didn't go well. There are other entities that
were better. Dave Portnoy talked about it this morning. I
think on Fox's Hey, you know we we were a
better partner, uh for for betting and look at it
(19:26):
just happens that way. Now this is not just about betting,
but in a in a week in which boy, ESPN
is really showing that, hey we are we are leaking water.
We had the YouTube controversy from this week. Still the
ESPN YouTube dilemma is not solved and they're losing five
million a day. You know, people from YouTube money, the ratings,
(19:50):
you're you're you're not getting as many people watching the
Monday Night game, right, you saw like how many how
many million was it off from where it was a
year ago because people that are watching on YouTube now
he got all the hosts that look like they're doing
a telethon, begging you while selling you their app to
give you thirty dollars a month to watch sports. Now,
(20:11):
this is this is a bit of a business conversation,
but it's important one to have because I can tell
you the future ESPN and for me, look, I'm working
in those walls for a long time. ESPN has always
been a meat and potatoes company. Here's here's shack, here's
the highlights, here's the sports. That's what they were. When
I was there as a production assistant in the early nineties,
(20:34):
everybody wanted to come in and find a way to
be creative. They were like, listen, don't be too creative again.
In the end, everybody wants to see shack, They want
to see highlights, and that's what we got to give them. Okay.
Then I got there in radio in the early two
thousands and it was have fun, but not too much fun.
Everybody wants sports, right, don't get too personal. And then
you know, I've told many stories in the past of
(20:54):
how every six months that would change. Tell more personal stories,
don't tell personal stories. But ESPN has always been a
meat and potatoes. We give you the sports right. And
for a long time that worked because ESPN basically ran unopposed.
The sports fan was underserved, and ESPN here's a big
cable channel that devoted entirely to sports. Yeah, you're gonna
(21:18):
run unopposed for a long time, right. Food Network's running
on a posed for a long time because it's hard
to get some stars and going to get another food
channel that's gonna go up against Guy Fieri and Food Network.
But everything comes to an end. And the biggest thing
I can tell you for ESPN right now, I'll give
you this Bowld prediction. ESPN is gonna get sold by
(21:38):
Disney sometime in the next years, maybe after the Super Bowl,
because they have the Super Bowl coming up in a
couple I think it's a twenty twenty seven super Bowl,
twenty twenty eight, one of those two. It's gonna get
sold because ESPN is hemorrhaging product, and they're also because
they're such a meat and potatoes industry and meat potatoes company.
They are having a lot of trouble adapting to current
(22:02):
habits and how sports are consumed by fans, by people
who want to consume only specific sports, by people who
want just the gambling aspect of it. Tell me the
last time ESPN's gone out on a big venture and
they've succeeded because they get outside their comfort zone and
(22:22):
it just doesn't work. Because they do one thing great. Right,
we give you the sport, we give you the sports. Okay, Well, now,
as we mentioned earlier this week with the ESPN YouTube thing,
people are gonna find out they can get along well
without ESPN if they go to YouTube, because they can
get college football anywhere else. I may not get Alabama Tennessee,
but I'll get Oregon Penn State, and I'll watch that instead,
(22:44):
and I'll get the highlights of something else. Right. I
may not get Monday Night football, but you know what,
if I really want to watch the game, I'll go
to a friend's house or I'll go to a bar.
I still get all the games on Sunday. I get
Thursday Night football because I stream it on Amazon. I'm
not underserved. No one is under served in sports anymore.
And now ESPN again they've done one thing great, and
(23:06):
they continue to do that. Live programming is there a
big thing, but now you get live programming for a
lot of other places. So what's ESPN doing? Hey, we're
trying to figure out our way into new forays with
different things. We're hiring different talent, we're hiring different companies
again in business with us. And you see this ESPN
bet is a big fail and now they're not getting along.
(23:26):
And how many more Disney carriage wars do we need
to see involving ESPN and some cable company that we
need to charge more money? Well, you know what, I'm sorry,
but maybe you have to realize your ESPN the days
of those profits and what you did. This is a
new landscape and you can't do it as well as
some other places do. Now nobody else out ESPN's ESPN,
(23:48):
But there's other factions that, hey, we can do this,
and we can do this this part of it better
than you can. We can do the gambling aspect better
than you can. We can do this kind of show
better than you can. We can give you the same,
the same experience of live sports, the same as you.
And ESPN has struggled in that in the new in
this new era of what's next, how do we evolve?
(24:11):
Do they bring in people that are the young, up
and coming programmers or is this a lot of people
that have been there for a long time. Hey, this
is what we do, and this is what we've been
doing for you know, since nineteen seventy nine we came
on the air. ESPN is going to continue to descend
and it's never going to get to a point where
they hit rock bottom. But the salad days of them
(24:32):
being the the absolute number one place to go for
sports and being where they can we can name our
price for carriage fees, we can we can spend whatever
money we want to on this venture. That's going to
be done, and eventually Disney's gonna say, you know what,
ESPN just the last few years ago, in the last decade,
they're not where sports is right now. They're not on
(24:52):
the cutting edge. They're not where sports is going, which
is streaming different aspects, different avenues to consume on social
media on the This is not where ESPN is going.
And Disney's gonna say, you know what, We're gonna sell
ESPN off because somebody else has got to be in
charge of it. They're gonna make thirty billion dollars whatever
it is selling ESPN. Whatever they're gonna make, they'll make,
(25:13):
They'll make tons of money, but they're gonna sell it
off because it's not gonna be as big money maker.
And then someone's gonna buy ESPN. That's gonna say, now
we're taking you into the latter part of the first
half of the twenty first century. There's gonna be big changes,
and the ESPN you knew is gonna be gone replaced
by a different ESPN. So we're in the dying stages
now the next couple of years of this is what
(25:36):
ESPN is. Then eventually they're gonna spin it off, and
whoever comes in next to buy it, who knows. Maybe
it's Amazon, maybe it's maybe it's Elon Musk. I don't
help somebody with that kind of money is gonna buy
ESPN and say, Okay, this is how we think sports
are going into the future. This is what we're gonna do.
Look at the changes NBC has made to the NBA already,
and they're just back into the game for all of
(25:57):
a week and a half. Right now, Wait a minute,
we're streaming these games. I can't see it starting a
game eight o'clock at night. Hey, you're gonna get this
new idea. Whoever buys is gonna try to say we're
doing things new, and it's gonna be a new everything
for ESPN. That's gonna happen. Now you have a brand
valuation according to a Forbes report from twenty twenty three
that puts it in that twenty five to thirty billion
range that you speak of, a lot of it becomes
(26:19):
the what is the brand value? I don't think that
the value is necessarily to that level anymore because to me,
a lot of it with games, and obviously we're a
different subset, you and I those that work in our business,
Like especially we're on air, I don't hear what's being said, right.
(26:39):
I might go back and if someone sends me a
clip of what old Troy and Joe have to say,
I'll hear it. Otherwise I'm watching the game and guess what,
that game can be televised by anybody. And that no
disrespect to the great camera people, the folks working in
the trucks, all the folks behind the scenes. But it's ubiquitous, right,
it moves, it's fluid whoever's got the dollars to push it.
(27:01):
This thing with ESPN bet was just the latest example.
It's the second time that Penn has done a terrible
deal only to have to bail on it at another day.
Of course, remember Dave Portnoy was able to get Barstool
back for a dollar after selling it to Pen for
over five hundred million, So a couple of big bites
at the Apple that didn't quite pay off the same way.
(27:24):
I mean, this is a multi billion dollar ten year
approach that is now being aboarded and Draftking slides in
new partner reboot a name known, trusted and again ubiquitous
in our sports TV and radio space. But when we
talk about putting the ESPN brand on top of bet
(27:44):
it's in congress for a lot of folks, and you're
not gonna suddenly it's it's switching costs like anything else, Like, well,
I have my accounts set up here. What am I
getting over there that is going to be different? Right?
What insights, what advantages, what incentivization is there for me
to switch? Otherwise I'm gonna keep betting with whom I'm betting,
(28:05):
whether that's a legal sportsbook or folks that are still
in the back alley of a bar. Like it's all
of that for ESPN as you go through, I mean,
we look at how easily you can reboot some of
these things to say they didn't spend a lot of
time and money at what they did at NBC. But
they're up and going like they've been doing it for
a couple of years again. Already, Right, we watched the
(28:27):
Prime Product tonight. Do you see any big difference between
that and what you're getting from ESPN? H I get
enough highlights on my Instagram and Twitter feeds, TikTok, whatever
social media I got. Am I watching Sports Center? No,
I'm not, you know what I mean? Like all of
those things that used to have a huge value proposition.
(28:49):
And I don't think I speak just for myself. I
think for a lot of folks that are dialed in
and sports is what they consume, they know it now.
Maybe they still like a certain personality, but I don't
think that's sell anymore. Right, the days of Dan and
Keith leading you down that highway are long in the
rear view mirror. So as you move forward into the
next age, it's all right, Well, who designs the killer
(29:11):
app that brings everything together? Your fantasy, your betting, your highlights,
all of those things. Personalities? Fine, how do I get
the games easily? The carriage fees thing is laughable again
because you've got so many other streaming competitors that give
you pieces. Right, if I'm a big SEC fan, then yeah,
(29:31):
I'm paying whatever the piper needs for my SEC. But
if it's for any other conference, I'm not doing that. Like,
that's not how folks are wired. Like, It's not an
all consuming space, and college sports seems to be that
one area that you would try to lean into the
rabid fan base saying well they really was like, yeah,
but they don't care about the rest of it. They
just don't like, if you're a big ten guy, you
(29:53):
pay attention to everything else and how it affects your team,
but you're not killing yourself to go spend three hours
to watch no no, no, Right. And likewise, the NBA,
we laugh at it. Now start times whatever. You don't
need to watch all eighty two of every team in
the NBA. Sorry. The only thing that still has that
bit of sanctity to it is the NFL. And even then,
(30:15):
it's so spread out at this point that folks have
been conditioned to use red zone or whatever. So the
YouTube TV they keep off for me every week, I
got it. Hey, come back. By the way, you still
need to pay the eighty two dollars a month for
the basic package and then you can still pay us
for the NFL. It's like, no, no, no, no, that's
that's the thing here. If you want to get rid
of YouTube, you're gonna lose the NFL. Back. Wait, why
(30:37):
am I using that? That's the deal. But here's the thing.
On the day after I get to watch this show
on this streamer and that streamer, I don't have to
pay you eighty two dollars. My piece mail is about
a third of that. Right, So for ESPN to try
to it was a ten dollars charge the last I saw,
which means they're trying to get just a little bit more.
And you know, with so many different options out there,
(31:00):
how many more are your hemorrhaging off. It's a losing proposition.
They'll go through the Super Bowl and then they'll probably
sell an uptick or the year of the super Bowl,
and it's going to be a big deal for Disney
and they'll get at and they'll say, you know what,
We're not good at the sports business anymore, right, Like,
like what did Fox do? Hey? Fox is one of
the greatest film companies for so many long but you
(31:20):
know what Fox has changed the last twenty years, So
what did they do, Hey, we're selling off the movie
business because that's not who we are anymore. And it
was a big deal. But you understand, okay, now you're
glad that certain certain businesses are in the hands of
people that hey, I get the modern era and we
push it forward. But yeah, I mean, just the visuals
of all of this stuff, right, you got this carriage
(31:41):
rights deal. You've got whatever the hell's going on with
the game that everybody was playing right there, Solitaire game.
So a lot of fights and slap fights about that.
But the whole thing with the carriage rights is just
laughable because in the same breath, it's kind of like
when they were argue about, hey, betting's got to be gone. Meanwhile,
(32:02):
go place a bet on our app. Is the we're
fighting for this. Oh by the way, go spend thirty
dollars on the app so you can watch this stuff.
It's like, well, where am I supposed to go? Like,
which is more important to you? This heartstring violin behind
me to go get my YouTube TV restored with your programming,
or do you want me to be on your app
(32:22):
which is supposedly all encompassing or Are you telling me
there's a lot I'm not getting there that's now exclusive
to YouTube TV. Please parse that out for me. No,
it's bad business. Exit out about a Fresco exit swollen dome.
Jason Smith Mike Harman live from the Fox Sports Radio
studios Tom Now to find out what's trending in the
wide world of sports. B Bureau has everything that happened
(32:42):
tonight with what's trending, including what I'm sure is the
number one game for her, which was the number one
beating the Clippers as bad as they did. We also
have Thursday Night football with the Broncos getting by the
Raiders ten to seven. We got tons of stuff happening
right here.
Speaker 2 (33:01):
Hey, guys, I'm sorry, it was recording the overnight updates.
Speaker 1 (33:05):
I'm so. I apologize. Anyways, I where were we at?
Where you guys talking? Sorry? So I told everybody that
your sons want tonight? Oh yes, Can I start with that?
Speaker 2 (33:15):
Oh my gosh, oh my god, that's so exciting. Okay,
So only one game, the premiere game of like all
Western Conference games. Okay, the Suns defeated the Clippers one
fifteen to one oh two. Jalen Green finished with twenty
nine points in his son's debut, which is like really
really exciting. So I hope Houston just totally regrets that,
you know, kind of the whole Just heads up. I
(33:35):
think the NBA Cup does start tomorrow, so we're going
to see a lot of those colored courts and stuff.
So that'll be really interesting about that, the Emirates Cup,
So that should be really fun going into the weekend
where nobody cares.
Speaker 1 (33:47):
But oh sure, but the courts will look fun. So yes,
what's good?
Speaker 2 (33:50):
Yeah, this is like the first year of my life
that I genuinely do not care about the NBA. Like
I am just in football mode. And maybe because I'm
working here, I just I'm just in a different mode.
Speaker 1 (33:58):
Right, Like I just watched the Come on, tell everybody
who your favorite team is. I'm a Saints fan. Yeah,
you still love football this year? Congratulations? Doesn't that mean
something like your real fan? You just like me, you're
a real fan my team States, But I still love it.
Isn't that what? I think? We need?
Speaker 2 (34:16):
This therapy, Jason, I don't know. So maybe we can
get a deal like some kind of like work discount.
Speaker 1 (34:21):
I don't know. Oh, you think anyody's gonna take our cases.
Who you root for the Jets and the Saints? Yeah,
nothing I could do for you. I'm sorry, surprise. We
don't have those billboards up and down the four or five.
Here's Harbaugh and Justin Herbert, accident attorneys and people to
help you with your desisports very true? That should be.
Speaker 2 (34:37):
That's gonna be our next end, but.
Speaker 1 (34:39):
Our next financial venture.
Speaker 2 (34:41):
Okay, Thursday Night football, the Broncos has defeated the Raiders
ten to seven. Gino Smith sacked a total of six times,
which I feel like is gonna be very traumatizing for him.
One hundred and forty three yards sixteen to twenty six
and one pick. Bonix not really that much better one
hundred and fifty yards sixteen to twenty eight, one touchdown
and two picks. News around the league, Rock Party is
(35:03):
getting closer to a returning but the team will make
a decision on Friday whether or not he'll actually suit
up and play versus the Rams, according to the head
coach Kyle Shanahan, and a wide receiver Cooper Cup was
limited in practice as Tory Horton was held out even
though he practiced yesterday. But I guess he might have
suffered a set back. Not sure, but TVD whether or
not he'll play on Sunday.
Speaker 1 (35:21):
Back to you guys, Thanks a bunch, Pree coming up next. Okay, So,
if we said earlier this hour, no NFL team is
great right now, which is kind of a shock. It's
an outlier that midway through the season, everybody's got problems.
How about two teams that I expect in the next
month to become great teams? Cleveland. Yeah, he'll beat the
(35:41):
Jets on Sunday. That's anybody can that's next right here,
Jason and Mike Fox Sports Radio. Why didn't you guys
beat somebody? Yeah? Last week? Who we beat the Bills?
Speaker 5 (35:49):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (35:50):
They should be executed. Wow? Yeah they're done. Wow. That
escalated quickly. You'd be a very harsh commissioner of the NFL.
What I or going to be a good one?
Speaker 4 (35:57):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (35:58):
I think you'd be harsh. Is that what it's called?
People would want to see the games you give. If
you're eliminating teams, eventually you're gonna get down to the
Browns and the Jets every week. I'm just gonna embrace
the betting community and just do Guillotine League for you.
I was gonna say, he went guillotine legit, Okay, I
knew that's that. That was really good guillotine. Yeah, did
you really think it was guillotine? Did you know guillotine?
(36:19):
You sure? Okay? Good? Yeah, you knew the word like creatine, Yes,
same exact thing, same exact thing. Yes, they cut off
your creatae. Yeah, very nice. Okay, thank you. Be sure
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(36:39):
friend Mike Harmon. So if tonight is a night the
Broncos not a great eight and two team, right there's
no unbeatable team in the NFL. Right now, there's not
even two or three teams you could say currently, Hey,
they're the big Super Bowl favorites. Normally we have two
or three teams by now we don't. It's an outlier year.
(37:03):
It's a very strange year in the NFL. But to
push it forward and say, nobody, if you said to me,
what team in the next month will become that team?
What team will become hey? Okay, So when we get
into middle of December, hey, Okay, this team with three
four weeks left in the season, Yes, these are your favorites.
(37:24):
I'll give you. I'll give you a team in the AFC,
and I'll give a team in the NFC. Oka hit
me in the AFC. I expect the Buffalo Bills to
continue to rise and rise above everybody else, get up
ahead of the New England Patriots, who just have an
easy schedule. They're not that good. But the Bills seem
to be figuring things out. They didn't go out and
get a big receiver at the deadline like we thought. However,
(37:47):
maybe Dalton Kincaid is becoming Josh Allen's go to guy.
Maybe this is how the offense evolves. James Cook driven
and it's a little bit less Josh Allen and a
little bit more middle of the field when they throw
the football. I expect the Bills, the weather getting colder
in the next month, for them to kind of reel
off a bunch of wins. And they're sitting there at
(38:08):
like ten and two, eleven and two with with with
a month left, and we're saying, okay, yep, no Bills.
Are Bills are that favorite in the a f C.
That's the team. I expect to see them do it
for the easiest schedule remaining. UH on tankathon dot com
near my go to for those such things, put them
in and schedules and UH and all the the ratings
(38:33):
to date. The fact that the Bears are still on
the tough team ledger is is pretty fun to meet.
That's pretty cool. But they should be on the top team.
Crime promoted the Black Riding game a couple of NFC
heavy Now that's good. In the a f C. I'm
gonna go to the Baltimore Ravens. No, look at you,
(38:53):
it's gonna be over five hundred, all right, I mean,
look you you've got a bunch of buster teams. Uh
ty shirts Cleveland rounds two games against the Bengals, the Jets,
Uh still to come. It doesn't just gives you winning. Well,
but but that's the thing, right, The long road begins
with the first step, and the first thing you have
to do is climb over all the crap. That is true.
(39:15):
That is true. So for the Ravens coming from where
they were with crap, well no, but you also saw
in that game against the Bears and and take with
the Bears. You know the grain of salt, like I
told you they were going to lose that game regardless
of who quarterbacked, and well, that was right, But I'm
just covered in we gotta get out of it, that's right,
Like Swake. I mean I crawled through how many hundreds
(39:36):
of yards? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, lots, But I mean for
the Ravens, the big il if anybody could possibly imagine
having to crawl through the Jets and the Browns. But
you got Hamilton back, you got uh Rokwan Smith back. Defensively,
you're playing better football offensively, as long as the line's
healthy and Lamar's upright, you got a chance. Now. I disagree,
(39:59):
but I hope you're right, because that means we're not
talking about the Steelers anymore, pretending that they're good. Well,
they got to play the Steelers twice, and I think
they you know, those will be three point games. I'm cool.
It's a matter of which side of the coin flo.
I'm cool with it with with the Steelers becoming who
who who I know they are, and and that nobody
else seems to know you hate them, I'm okay with that.
I gotta disagree, but I hope you're right. I'm I'm
(40:21):
rooting for you on this, but you know, the Patriots
still have the easiest schedule remaining football league not rooting
for them, only two games on that plus side, one
of which is against those said Bills. So we got
more from the AFC West showdown tonight between the Broncos
and the Raiders. Got a hot take coming up next.
Plus who's that NFC team that's going to be great
in the next month. That's next, Chason and Mike Fox
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