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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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should be. With VJ running point and dishing off the
alley ups and back door cuts to my man Arnie Spaniard,
(00:35):
real quick, Arnie, you got a little bit of a
hoop game. You were posting some videos about a year ago.
You were actually out like playing in a like an
older men's league. You was really hitting buckets. Bro, I
thought you were really joking when you said you still
play a little ball?
Speaker 3 (00:50):
Was that you? Or was that a clone your twin
or something I.
Speaker 4 (00:52):
Played in the twenty well eighteen and overs. So most
of everybody's say, most of the guys are younger than mere,
younger than me. So it's tough to keep up GC.
Speaker 5 (01:04):
When Arnie went to go shoot the ball and then
it hit himself in the head at the end.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
No, I didn't only think, I don't think Arnie poll
and I didn't see that, And I just saw him
hit a couple of buckets, and I'm like, Okay, I
like myself right. I still got a little jimmy. I
got a jumpie still. I may not got many handles.
I still can bang in the post. I'm a thick guy.
Got some body on me. I can bang in the post.
I grab boards. I still got a little jumpy on me.
If you got a jumpy, it, don't never leave. Like
Steph Curry is gonna be able to shoot until he's ninety.
Speaker 5 (01:30):
You know.
Speaker 4 (01:30):
It's the best basketball player at Fox Sports Radio host
wise VJ.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
Vernon Husky a big vanilla funny from so on, I'll
bust him. I'll bust he scored from that man. That man,
Cliff Ribs scored like thirty points in the Drew League. Okay,
so check this out. What a Julie get. They play
no defensive So check this out. I bumped into e
from one night at my high school. I was coaching
and I heard these you know, these basketballs backs and
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bouncing in the gym. So I'm walking by the gym
to go to my car, and I said, let me
just stick my head in here. And there was a
bunch of different AAU teams and stuff in there, like
working on their game and practicing a lot of guys
training kids. And Ethram was in there, and he from
saw me and stood up and walked across the gym
and we tapped up. He saw I had my Birmingham
High school stuff on out here in the valley, Birmingham Patriots.
Like you're coaching football if Jesse, heah coaching football, man,
(02:16):
but what's up with basketball?
Speaker 3 (02:18):
You tried?
Speaker 2 (02:18):
I was joking with him that night. I was like,
eph I dunk on your ass, man, get out of here. No,
I heard Ethrol could who But I don't ever back
down from a challenge.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
Now you know what I did challenge?
Speaker 2 (02:29):
You know I did challenge that did back down, Chris Brussar,
I challenged he was talking trash.
Speaker 4 (02:34):
He played in college.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
I don't care.
Speaker 4 (02:36):
Yeah, yeah, well he played a long time ago.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
I don't care where you played. My nephew played in
Carolina and I used to run with them. I used
to run with I used to run with high school
and college players.
Speaker 4 (02:45):
Okay, he played at Oberlin, which is a D three
school out of Ohio.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
I know exactly where he paid. But he was talking trash.
So I was like, all right, play me one on one.
Oh I'm old now, V I'm all right, Well, did
no talk trash? If you're not go play me one
on one. I challenged Martin. I challenged Martin to one
on one game. Actually, Martin and I put out a
challenge a two on two game. Any fans that wanted
to come out here in LA and play Martin and
I two on two record it put it out there,
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you know, just marketing for the show, and nobody took
us up either on that man, so they were scared
for that. So Arnie, I'm gonna let you pick brother
Richmond Webb, which was great, Thank you. Richard Red former
Miami Dolphins, every time All Pro and up for finalists
for Hall of Fame for twenty twenty five. Kind of
disrupted the show a little bit, aren't I'm gonna let
you pick? You want to go with the twelve?
Speaker 4 (03:28):
Did I just could I just say something?
Speaker 3 (03:30):
Real good? Stars? You can say anything.
Speaker 4 (03:31):
Brother, just you know, said you brought up the Dolphins
and we're talking about whether they're gonna go and bring
back Mike McDaniel. I started looking at this. I sent
you this over Tyreek Hill making twenty six million a year,
Watto making twenty million a year. Green Bay has seven
wide receivers that are making eight million. Somebody's gonna have
to go if my if Miami's gonna try to keep
(03:52):
up and get better. In some places, you can't pay
two wide receivers forty six million dollars. Now, when Green
Bay's paying seven wide receivers eight million, that seems a
gross overpay.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
At least I think it's not a gross overpay. They
have all young guys that are all still only first deals.
That's why they're not paying any money. I understand that,
but that I mean that in the world. Well, what
they need to do is just get tougher, start running.
They need to get more physical and run the football.
How about that?
Speaker 4 (04:18):
Well, though, then I'll ask you the next question, because people,
not people, but the NFL always crying about money, the
at least the owners are to the players. Is it
come to the point where we have to get rid
of the salary cap in the NFL. Now, I know
the owners would never want to do that, but at
least it will take away from the Okay, now we've
paid our quarterback all the money, we have no money
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you left for anybody else, we would end that type
of thing.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
I think that there should not be a salary cap
in any of the pro leagues. I've never liked the
salary cap. How the hell you going to tell me
how much I can pay who the hell I want
to pay? And I think they're thinking what they're doing
is keeping parody across the league. But it's not true.
Let's just really fast, just go through it.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
Who ran no, no, no, But there's no parody though the
parody is a fake.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
We're in the NFL who ran the seventies, the Stillers
in the Cowboys, the Stillers in the Cowboys who ran
the eighties. N okay, okay, who ran the nineties? Dallas
had three?
Speaker 4 (05:17):
Well, San Francisco was good also that, But.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
What s got one? I'm just just just go through,
just go through. The Patriots.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
Sorry, the Patriots got the one with Bill parts, but
the Packers got one. The Broncos got too.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
And in the ninety. Okay, how about the two thousands
you had?
Speaker 2 (05:31):
Yeah, yeah, pretty much the Patriots and and you know,
and Peyton grabbed two, Aaron Rodgers grab one.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
Ben Roethlisberger grabbed a couple.
Speaker 4 (05:41):
Right.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
So, but this idea, that salary cap is gonna make
the league parody. That's that's wrong. Who's been running the
NFL for the last five or six years, the Kansas
City Chiefs.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
If you have the quarterback in the coach, that's what
it comes down to. Man.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
You need the quarterback and the coach. The quarterback is
Pat Mahoney's the best court back in football. Andy Reids
the best coaching football. They have the two best guys
in the league. Andy Reid is smart enough to work
with the front offers who entertained in Isaac Pachenko and
bring back a Kareem Hunt. And listen, do you remember
when Larry Johnson was leading the league at rushing for
Kansas City? They were winning nine games, but you had
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the league's best running back. That doesn't matter. You need
the league's best quarterback and.
Speaker 4 (06:25):
You need to lead the best votes, but only the
league's best quarterback exactly.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
But if you take away salary cap, that's the point
I'm making though, brother, if you take away salary cap.
Now this question of well you pay this guy and
you're paying this guy and you're paying it don't matter
just doing Like the NBA, there's a luxury tax if
you go over this much.
Speaker 3 (06:45):
The owners owe this. But you sold the Go to
State Warris. You're doing that. We're like, we don't give
a damn.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
We're still winning, So I'll pay this extra money if
I'm winning, because I'm adding to.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
The total value of my franchise.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
The Go to State Wars is a top ten Prop
Sorts franchise worthwise.
Speaker 4 (07:02):
You're paying quarterbacks who are next up that don't deserve
the money, that can never put out the stats. Liking
Aaron Rodgers. You know we talked about brock Perty. This
is mister irrelevant.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
He's getting sixty.
Speaker 4 (07:14):
SAMs suposed to give him fifty sixty million.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
Sixty Yeah, well, now.
Speaker 4 (07:18):
You're gonna cripple the team because what about Kittles. What
did I just give my wide receivers. I gave them
a boatload of.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
Money, Debo money, gave Kittle money. They gave Christian They
gave Christian money.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
But guess what they gave all those guys money, aren't
he And they had their window. They had their shot.
They've been to two Super Bowls, right, They've had their shot, dude,
and it goes fast. Your window closes quick. You and
I were on two summers ago, and I keep bringing
this up when you and ire on together because it
was really a great call.
Speaker 3 (07:47):
I'm sorry. I patting myself on the back.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
Remember when you and I couldn't figure out why Buffalo
was picked by Vegas to win it coming off of
the divisional round loss the thirteen second game. Remember that,
and Josh Allen was picked to win the MVP. You both,
I said, Dude, their windows closed. Of course, Bill's mafia
goes crazy. Why what are you talking about?
Speaker 3 (08:04):
What do you mean they're win their windows closed?
Speaker 2 (08:06):
Meeting guys, They'll still win eleven twelve games, They'll still
win a home playoff game.
Speaker 3 (08:10):
Their window is closed.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
As far as winning a Super Ball, that window is short.
San Francisco's windows gone. They had their shot and they
were there twice. It couldn't get it done. I give
you another team, Philadelphia Eagles. You better get it done soon.
Are your windows gonna close? U? D. S Kwan can
jump over people.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
Backwards for the next five years, but.
Speaker 4 (08:30):
Not that extended. The life shot for the Philadelphia not
extend two years. Man two years, but they've made it
more of a serious two.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
Years, Arnie.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
This year or next year, the Eagles better cash in
and guess what they've already gotten a one and they
blew it.
Speaker 3 (08:46):
You got one more shot. You don't go to a
lot of It's hard, Arnie.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
That's why special what Tom Brady did, it's specially what
Joe Montana did. It's special what Dallas did, and special
what the Steelers did in the savingies. It's hard, and
when you get there, you gotta capitalize. And if you don't,
your window closes. Fat Look at San Francisco. Do you
think you're gonna miss Christian McCaffrey early in the year,
But guess what he missed all that time? It threw
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everything off. They're under five hundred, sir, and they're losing,
and they're losing it. Buffalo Tomorrow are excuming. I'm sorry,
this is I'm lost my days. This is Friday. I normally, yeah,
this is Friday, normally being on Saturday night, but dudeggert,
their ass kicked on Sunday they're not winning that game,
they're not making the playoffs. Their windows closed because now
you gotta start to think, Okay, what are we gonna
(09:32):
do moving forward? They're they're an old brutal team bro
both the States, and they hurt.
Speaker 4 (09:38):
When you say all these teams windows have closed closed
due Kansas City and Detroit. That's it. Detroit has it
won of Super Bowl, so they've all closed the Kansas
City for now.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
Imdaying, no, what Detroit's window is now open because they're
clearly the best team in the NFC, right, but they
got about it through what you got about a three
year window, you better get there and get it done
because you don't have Pat Mahomes. You got Pat your
windows open for a decade. If you got Tom your
windows open for a decade, Peyton decade, Roethlisberger decade, Your
(10:08):
windows open for ten years. If you got those guys.
But if you got Philip Rivers and I loved me
some Philip Rivers. But when you got Philip and you
got a season where you go fourteen and two, and
what happened? They lost their what they lost their home
playoff game to the Patriots at home, and that was
and that was it. You had one year, You had
(10:28):
one shot with a Hall of Fame running back and
a Hall of Fame quarterback, and what happened? The window shut.
I'm tired of people arguing me about this. Just go
through history.
Speaker 4 (10:38):
They know it's funny though, that you like Detroit and
their windows wide open. Yes, they have a really good quarterback,
but he's not in the same class as all the
other quarterbacks you've just mentioned through the year.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
No, but they have a great team. So they got
a team that could get it done.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
Brad Johnson's got a Super Bowl ring, Trent Dilferd's got
a Super Bowl ring.
Speaker 3 (10:55):
The window was there. They took advantage of the window.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
But as soon as the Buck just won that Super
Bowl and they crushed the Raiders, what happened to that team?
Speaker 3 (11:03):
They tried to get back and they couldn't get back.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
The Rams took advantage of Trent Dell of Trenton Green getting.
Speaker 3 (11:10):
Hit on the preseason game. You put in Kurt Warner
nineteen ninety nine, and you just go on this run.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
Isaiah King, Tory hole he Isaac Brus Marshall grow quarterback. Yeah, well,
when you got all those guys, I just named at
a Hall of famers around you. It's not hard. It's
not hard. All the games were indoors. Remember that year.
If you think about the division they ran that year,
the best show on turf, baby, and the super Bowl
was indoors that year.
Speaker 3 (11:36):
And then they listen, they go back, was that super Bowl?
They go back? What happened?
Speaker 2 (11:41):
Kurt Warner throws a pick six early in that second
quarter to tie Law.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
Oh whoa, whoa, whoa, and that window close. Kurt Warner
has the dumb surgery and remark, Bolger, come on.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
Man, just go through the anstree. Your window is Donovan
McNabb and Andy Reid. They had about a four to
five year window and they got the one and couldn't
close the door. And after that things start to fall
Apart's in his t gets kicked out of practice. Next
thing you know, he's in his driveway doing sit ups
and doing curls with dumbbells, and it starts to spiral
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out of control to the point they trade their franchise
quarterback within the division to the Washington At that time Redskins.
I will stand strong on this all day long as
one of my main football points.
Speaker 3 (12:23):
Your window is not as open as long as people
think it is. It's not.
Speaker 4 (12:27):
If I gave you two choices, would you rather have
Kansas City and the Lions or everybody else to win
the Super Bowl this year? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (12:35):
Kansas City Allions.
Speaker 4 (12:37):
I'm thinking, you know, before I got two of the
teams though, wit, but before I said that, I'm not
so sure about Kansas City. So now you're putting all
your eggs in one basket with the Lions. I think
I would take my chances with everybody else, with the Philadelphias.
And yet the You're got Buffalo.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
No, not Buffalo. Buffalo's windows been closed. They're not winning
the Super Bowl. They're not getting there.
Speaker 4 (12:55):
Ill to take my chances with other teams like that.
Speaker 3 (12:57):
I got to all the teams.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
Yeah them the Eagles, Yard said, the Eagles in the
Ravens and the Ravens.
Speaker 3 (13:02):
Eagles in the Ravens.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
Yeah, Eagles in the Ravens wide because they added the
two most important pieces that has been shown to be
the two most important pieces of this offseason, and that
is jump over backwards, Sakuon Barkley and King Henry. It
is amazing how Martin and I did a show and
I have to clip.
Speaker 3 (13:18):
I want to pull this up. I might pull it
up for tomorrow's show where.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
We talked about how foolish it is to devalue the
running back. I think this was over the summer. Squeaks,
you might have been producing this show. Do you remember
those running back conversations that we were having about This
might have been in the springtime, so this was before
Ian took over.
Speaker 3 (13:34):
Martin and VJ.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
You were still doing the show with us where we
had this discussion about the.
Speaker 3 (13:39):
Dude, how are you devaluating running backs that you've got
to run the football?
Speaker 2 (13:44):
It's on YouTube, the clips on YouTube. It got over
like eight thousand views. I remember seeing the thing.
Speaker 5 (13:48):
But they think it was about the Saquon Barkley when
he was going to Philly, like the had gone to
Philly just show. Yeah, it was right before the window,
like what the Giants did with their money.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
And I remember it was to remember when Jonathan Taylor
had this call for the running backs? Yeah, there you go,
Johnson tell when he had a Super Bowl that was
us and we were like, I can't believe this. You
don't want to pay a running back.
Speaker 3 (14:07):
Memory football one? Oh, I have a great memory football one.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
Oh one, run the football, stop the run, protect the passer,
run the passer, don't turn the ball over, don't comit
stupid penalties. You'll win sixty five percent of your games
if you do that. You can't devour a running back.
Go look at the top rushers in the league right now. Guys,
By the way they darsh Jacobs.
Speaker 5 (14:27):
Hurting old aging quarterbacks. I don't think that's de vl Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (14:30):
Yeah, also yeah, Joe Mixing.
Speaker 4 (14:32):
Hey, Josh Jacobs doesn't bringing the Super Bowl to Green Bay.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
But if it doesn't matter though, they're run games better
because they have him.
Speaker 3 (14:41):
You think the Raiders don't like to have them.
Speaker 4 (14:42):
You just got done saying to win a Super Bowl
you need a great quarterback. You never said you need
a great running back.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
No, I'm just but but we just named two teams
that have two new running backs that you think I
ever shot at the Super Bowl?
Speaker 4 (14:52):
They do right like that, But that doesn't mean that
they don't have other good parts of the team.
Speaker 3 (14:56):
Know that you need a complete team.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
But are the Eagles more BIZZI should to win the
Super Bowl with Saquon Barkley? Yes?
Speaker 3 (15:02):
Or no?
Speaker 4 (15:02):
I think the Eagles are more positioned to win the
Super Bowl this year than maybe Kansas City.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
I know, but it's because Saquon was the added piece, correct, right,
Okay say with the Ravens, right, Lamar?
Speaker 3 (15:14):
I just entered. I just talked to Lamar Jackson.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
Guys, I just covered that game and my question it's
all my Instagram and my Twitter's all on my social media.
I asked him, how does it feel to not have
to lead the Ravens in Russian anymore? Because he's been
there leading rusher since he became the Ravens quarterback.
Speaker 3 (15:30):
You should have saw the look on that man's face.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
And I asked Hurts the same question, what does it
feel like, Hurts to know that you got a horse
like that to turn the hand the ball to By
the way, this is after Saquon went for a two
point fifty five against the Rams and embarrassed them. You
should have seen the look on both these quarterbacks faces
when I personally asked them that question that.
Speaker 3 (15:52):
You could see, Yeah, it means something.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
Man. We got a shot now, a real shot. We
had a shot last year.
Speaker 3 (15:58):
Think about it.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
Eagle's been to a Super Bowl and they blew that game.
They lost My three on the las second field goal.
The Ravens had home field advantage last year and lost
an AFC championship game.
Speaker 3 (16:07):
But you add those two guys with great quarterbacks.
Speaker 4 (16:10):
Be kind of like the way the Cowboys added Ezekiel
Elliott and Dak Pretway. That's a bad example.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
Well, hey, let's not forget when ms Smith did sit
out the first two weeks after missing training camp. The
Dallas Cowboys started one two and said, you know what, well,
Mike want to pay that guy he comes back.
Speaker 3 (16:28):
What does Dallas go win that year? The Super Bowl?
Speaker 2 (16:32):
You need your window. It's not open long. Buffalo's windows close, guys,
It's closed. Josh Allen fans, Josh Apple, turnover. Allen will
win your eleven or twelve games. He'll win the AFCAS
And you could talk trash to me. Bial's that's fine.
I eat it, I take it. I dish it, so
I could take it. But if you're telling me he's
gonna win a Super Bowl for Buffalo, you're fooling yourself.
Speaker 3 (16:54):
Their window is.
Speaker 4 (16:55):
Closed, by the way. Just a couple of things. I
know we're getting a lot of tweets. I just have
to read one from Terry who takes a shot at
me that said I used to like Arney right out
of all the things I've said in a million years
of doing radio, this is what unhinged him. And that
statement about no salary cap and that statement about no
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salary cap automatically he had me turned my station back
to serious. See, uh, you've lost my interest for I'm like,
what that got you?
Speaker 3 (17:25):
Because because what made you turn I go?
Speaker 4 (17:29):
Because I saw that that some NFL inside or tweeted that.
I sent you that the other day. Maybe we'll talk
about it, but I'm like that that got you mad?
Speaker 5 (17:39):
That sent you over the time you said some much
more egregious things that's not related, not.
Speaker 4 (17:45):
Even agreed rights, not even that's nothing.
Speaker 3 (17:49):
I'm gonna be I'm gonna be honest with you. I'm
mad you read it. I ain't even gonna lie.
Speaker 4 (17:53):
He said, oh dark, Oh I don't like you cursing.
Speaker 3 (17:56):
Oh god, yeah, you remember that guy the other day.
But you saw I handle that right.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
I was like, bro as, I mean, if that was
too much for you, not a problem.
Speaker 3 (18:03):
I say it all the time. Man, good stuff.
Speaker 4 (18:04):
Man.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
When we come back, we're either gonna pick about We're
either gonna talk about whether we're gonna go with our
college football twelve teams and we're gonna talk about some
of the big games in the NFL.
Speaker 3 (18:11):
VJ. Vernon Husky, Martin not Mar excuse me, that's my partner.
Tomorrow Night.
Speaker 4 (18:15):
VJ.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
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Speaker 3 (19:16):
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Speaker 2 (19:18):
Hey, are any quick question man, before I'll let you
pick this next topic before we start real fast and
we'll go to the saga, come back and finish it up,
moving it to the end of the show. You do
believe me when I tell you one of my favorite
people to do radio away right.
Speaker 4 (19:29):
Oh sure, I absolutely one of my favorite people to
do radio app.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
Oh God, yeah, man, there's no there's no lack of
confidence over here with this guy.
Speaker 4 (19:38):
No.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
I comeing to you live from the tie right dot
Com studios, Aarnie, I'm gonna let you pick, man, I'm
gonna let you I'm gonna let you hold down this
next segment. You want to go with some big NFL games,
or you want to talk about the college football Robert games.
Speaker 4 (19:50):
I just want to do a little college football because
I know you wanted to do your Top twelve. But
I mean things are gonna change. I mean they could
possibly change, especially with all the big games. Sure, we
talked about Michigan Ohio State game. Sure, and you know
I was thinking a lot about that game today and
I'm like, Okay, rivalry, I'll take the nineteen and a
half points, and I'll probably take the points, but I'm
not so sure that game is gonna be as close
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as maybe you're making it out to be. Ohio State.
You know, a couple of bounces of their way, you.
Speaker 3 (20:16):
Got them to cover.
Speaker 4 (20:18):
They they may win this tham by three touchdowns, which
is twenty one points. That's only a difference between a
point and a half. So you know it's tough to
say that. But Ohio State's the much better team here.
I know you don't like Howard, but he's a better
quarterback then I think you're giving him credit for Ohio
States the much better team. I know Michigan's gonna play tough,
but can Michigan's offense keep up with Ohio State.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
I don't think they don't need an offense to kill o'
Ohio State. We have the best two defensive tackle tannles
in football. That's where this game is gonna be won.
We're gonna push the pocket. Just wait, man, We're gonna
put you know a fine I'll just say we're gonna
push the pocket. They're not gonna run to Baltimorrow, and
it's gonna put the game in Will Howard's hand.
Speaker 3 (20:55):
It's a rivalry game we will have now.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
I don't like hearing I don't like hearing that Will
Johnson's out that that kind of pisses me off.
Speaker 3 (21:04):
I'm not gonna lie. I'm mad at Will.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
Johnson because it feels like he figured I had to
come back.
Speaker 3 (21:10):
We're not having a great year.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
Yeah, this hamstring or quad or whatever, it hurts a
little more, you know what I'm saying. I don't care
what no none of y'all out there say. I've talked
to enough former athletes that have told me pro that
have told me there's guys that you probably cherish and
have their bobbleheaded posters on your wall. Those millionaires, bro,
(21:33):
Are those guys gonna go be millionaires?
Speaker 3 (21:34):
Trust me? Man, When they feel like.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
The season's over, that quad or that growl, it hurts
a little more. And I feel like that's what I'm
getting out of it. And I'm calling out my own guy.
So it is like I'm going at a rival. I'm
calling out my guy. I'm calling out.
Speaker 4 (21:50):
Mister to a Michigan Ohio State game.
Speaker 3 (21:52):
Have you been on the man?
Speaker 2 (21:53):
That's still on my But I've made every other rival
game of all my favorite teams. I've been to Duke Carolina,
I've been in the Dolphins bum ass Jets. I've been
to Dolphins Bills, I've been to uh Texas Rangers really
don't have a ribbery, but I've been to hockey. I've
been to Rangers Kings. After the Stanley Cup where it
kind of became an East Coast West Coast inter conference robbery,
(22:16):
I've been to all the robbery matchups of all my
favorite teams.
Speaker 3 (22:19):
I've never seen Ohio State and Michigan live.
Speaker 4 (22:22):
I don't think like college football rivalries though, yeah, coespecially
with especially with the size too, and the tailgating. The
tailgating is something that you can't even you know, you
can't even describe because you don't get it in any
other sport like they do it.
Speaker 2 (22:36):
No, Well, I cover college football when I was over
at the Mouse twelve eighty. So when I was over
twelve eighty, I covered college football, so I called games.
I was a color guy for three years, so I've
seen college football up close and personal, tailgating and all that stuff.
You're right, it's a different it's a different you know,
it's a whole different vibe. I tell you something else
that's a different vibe. Is the best update guy in
the business. Right now, Steve the Sager Man. The end
(22:57):
of the night, I no more a lot of sports,
but philisanto what.
Speaker 3 (23:00):
Happened, Buddy plenty. It's the short answer.
Speaker 7 (23:02):
And the college football that you were mentioning on Fox TV,
it's Michigan at number two Ohio State at noon Eastern time,
and then after that on Fox number sixteen Arizona State
at Arizona from Tucson. And the night game. Yes, there
is another on Fox Saturday Night Top twenty five match up,
Kansas State at Iowa State. By the way, tonight's on
(23:25):
Fox TV, Utah, which had been one in seven in
the Big Twelve, got to win at UCF twenty eight
to fourteen. Iowa was down ten to nothing third quarter
but beat Nebraska thirteen to ten on a fifty three
yard field goal on the final play, set up by
a late sack and fumble. Did you know Iowa's offense
had just five first downs tonight?
Speaker 2 (23:44):
Sounds like their office that we've been talking about you
and I've been talking off for the last two years.
Speaker 3 (23:48):
Right, Still won the game, Still won the game.
Speaker 7 (23:51):
But everything was top i that contest at seven thranc
Georgia in eight overtimes. The Bulldogs beat rival Georgia Tech
forty four forty two. Even though Georgia was down seventeen
nothing at the half, Bulldogs with two touchdowns in the
last four minutes of regulation to tie it. This game
ended after midnight Eastern time. Georgia has now won thirty
(24:11):
one straight at home. Carson Beck had five touchdown passes,
and let's not forget in the first half, Georgia Tech
missed a twenty five yard fueld goal attempt, eventually lost
in eight ots. Minnesota much earlier today one at Wisconsin
twenty four to seven. San Jose State at home beat
Stanford thirty four to thirty one. In the top twenty five,
(24:32):
eleventh ran Boise State over Oregon State thirty four to eighteen.
Ashton genty thirty seven carries two hundred and twenty six
yards and a touchdown. Fourteenth ranked Old Miss over Mississippi State,
which went winless in the SEC, twenty six to fourteen.
The final, Oklahoma State went oh to nine, and the
Big Twelve Conference got shut out fifty two to nothing.
At twenty fifth rank Colorado Travis Hunter three touchdown receptions
(24:55):
and he had an interception on defense. The Chicago Bears
fired head coach which Matt Eberflus. Quarterback for the Niners,
Brock Purty is expected to play at Buffalo after missing
a game with a sore shoulder, but still out tackled
Trent Williams and defensive end Nick Bosa for the Bills.
Tight End Dalton Kincaid out against Sunday night with a
knee injury. Temperature around thirty degrees in Buffalo's Sunday night
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chance of Stowe. Jacksonville quarterback Trevor Lawrence due to return
Sunday against Houston. He's missed two games with a sprain shoulder.
Washington running back Austin Eckler is out with a concussion.
Running Back Brian Robinson did practice fully today after a
sprained ankle. Charger running back JK. Dobbins is out this
weekend with a knee injury. In the game at Kansas
City today, the Chiefs sent the Raiders to an eight
(25:38):
straight loss nineteen seventeen. Even though rookie tight end Brock
Bauers had ten catches one hundred and forty yards in
a touchdown eight and O'Connell two touchdown passes in the
second half, but the Chiefs clinch a playoff spot for
the tenth straight year. Patrick Mahomes three hundred and six
yards passing and a TD. He was sacked five times
in an.
Speaker 3 (25:58):
NBA late game.
Speaker 7 (25:59):
Oklahoma City now fifteen and four, gotta win in LA
against the Lakers one oh one ninety three. Shay Gilgis
Alexander thirty six points. Boston won at seventh in a row.
Orlando won it's fifth straight. Memphis won its fifth straight game.
John Morant after the hip injury, twenty seven points in
this win over New Orleans. Victories for New York and Atlanta.
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Atlanta beat Cleveland again won seventeen one oh one. So
the Cavs, who had been seventeen and one earlier this week,
now seventeen and three. Portland and Miami with wins Detroit
as well. Steph Curry of Golden State questionable for Saturday
after a soor knee. He did not did participate in
today's practice, but he's called questionable. Luka Doncicch of the
(26:39):
MAVs doubtful for Saturday with his wrist injury, although he
returned to practice today. And I'm not sure this is
news at this point, but Joel embiid is still out
Saturday with oh wow, really, Paul George questionable hyper extended
me and in college hoops, West Virginian overtime beat Arizona.
Speaker 4 (26:56):
Yeah, we don't need to get to that. We don't
need to play that money.
Speaker 3 (26:59):
Yeah, play at any cat.
Speaker 4 (27:00):
But when you when you say Carson bek with the
five touchdowns, two of them were in overtime, does that
really count as touchdowns? You know they do, But you
know it's funny in the NHL when they go in
to the shootout, uh, and the goalies give up the
shootout goals, they don't count out as goals against.
Speaker 7 (27:18):
I don't mind they counting these as touchdowns because as
short as the drive was, they were actually you know,
driving when he passed and then got the two point conversion.
Speaker 4 (27:28):
Yeah, but I did not really touchdown passes. You know,
they're two pointers, so.
Speaker 2 (27:33):
It was fourteen yards their touchdown passes already let it go.
Speaker 4 (27:37):
Oh no, I I gotta fight that.
Speaker 2 (27:39):
Sorry, No, they're touchdown passes, and I'm sorry, sty Yeah,
I agree with what you're saying.
Speaker 4 (27:45):
Yeah, because the NHL goalies give up a goalie that
it gives up a goal and they don't count it
as as goals.
Speaker 7 (27:50):
Always thought in soccer they should not count the penalty
kicks on the guy's goal list. How many goals the
people like Shiano Ronaldo have in their careers and how
many of them are penalty kicks career?
Speaker 4 (28:03):
Wow?
Speaker 2 (28:04):
And now I will say it is thank you for informing.
That's why I love doing ready with your guys. Guy's
older than me, that has been around longer, I learned. I
love learning when I do radio. I did not know
that the goals against that it doesn't count as goals
against against the goalie and shoot.
Speaker 3 (28:16):
I didn't know that, But.
Speaker 4 (28:17):
It does count as a goal for the goal.
Speaker 3 (28:18):
Then that makes Then that makes no data. I know
that that makes no damn sense. That makes zero sense.
How the hell does it count.
Speaker 7 (28:30):
In the NBA, where you get a team rebound, but
if you look at the individual's rebounding stats, no one
actually gets credit for it. So the total rebounds are
off compared to the right.
Speaker 2 (28:40):
That is true, and it's always weird too. Another thing
I did. They really do need to add. If you
dish the ball to somebody and they go for a
layup and they get fouled and it missed the layup,
but they go hit.
Speaker 3 (28:50):
The two free throws. You should get this, you should
get the assists. You should get this is.
Speaker 7 (28:54):
Because it counts your past led to points.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
But you have to make both. But you have to
make both free throws. So if you go one in one, nope, Nope,
it doesn't.
Speaker 7 (29:03):
And you can't say, ah bud, he's shipped off and
assists because he missed. Well, the same thing happened to
Mahomes today.
Speaker 3 (29:08):
He escaped.
Speaker 7 (29:09):
It was a beautiful play. He threw over the middle
and the receiver are dropped and see there you go.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
So we can't go. No, that should be a completion
because it hit him right in the hands. No, you
have to complete it. I'm with you, Steve, thanks man,
great always being in. You're with us tomorrow, Martin, not tomorrow.
I'll see you tomorrow, brother, great stuff man.
Speaker 4 (29:26):
All right already, and VJ.
Speaker 2 (29:28):
We're in for Jason Smith and for his best friend
Mike Harmon coming to you, lofing the tire right dot
com studio. All right, buddy, let's get this college football
thing going. Man, I'll throw a game out there to you.
I mean, we had Georgia Georgia Tech today that was
twenty and a half that didn't cash in another game.
Speaker 4 (29:42):
A lot of the dogs coming up tomorrow, I do.
Speaker 2 (29:45):
So let's go right to this one right out here,
lovely Los Angeles, about twenty five minutes from me on
Figure Road, because you kept talking about this one last
night plus seven and where it sits right now for
you as C at home.
Speaker 3 (29:55):
It gets Ordered Dame. I think Nordre Dan beats him
bout ten man to change my mind.
Speaker 4 (30:00):
Notre Dame's obviously the better team, and I don't know
if the USC really has the home field advantage like
a lot of these other they don't.
Speaker 3 (30:08):
There's gonna be a lot of Notre Dame fans there
in the morning.
Speaker 4 (30:10):
Yeah, exactly, so they don't have that home field advantage.
A lot of these other elite college football programs have.
That being said, Notre Dame probably wins this one going away, though.
You just that's a lot of points coming for USC.
Seven and a half, seven in that hook. That's why
a lot of people a probably gonna stay away from
that unless it gets under seven. But that's that's a
(30:32):
tough line right there.
Speaker 3 (30:34):
There's a tough line.
Speaker 2 (30:35):
I saw it at seven, and that's what I wrote
it down in and even if it's seven seven and
a half, I just think Norre Dame is gonna run
the ball well if they don't turn the ball over.
They have a very good defense. Nord Dame's got a
really good defense man. They like I said, they quietly,
and it's because they get so much hype and people
always all everybody does is hype up Notre Dame and
they always lose.
Speaker 3 (30:55):
Well, this year they didn't get a lot of hype.
They lost. I think it was the Northern Illinois game
at home.
Speaker 2 (31:00):
Since then they've really handily been beaten the hell out
of people.
Speaker 3 (31:04):
Man, And quietly they're gonna get into the playoffs.
Speaker 2 (31:07):
I think I think they went tomorrow night there and
quick rewind back to Georgia. Georgia escapes tonight five over times.
Are they in the college football playoff? Because I don't
believe they're not playing in the SEC championship game?
Speaker 3 (31:20):
Correct Or Am I wrong on that?
Speaker 7 (31:22):
No?
Speaker 4 (31:22):
I don't think they will.
Speaker 3 (31:23):
They not.
Speaker 2 (31:23):
It's gonna be Texas and say of them, and yeah, well,
well Texas and Texas A and M they play tomorrow.
Yeah that's a game tomorrow. But if it's Georgia and
euro opinion. Are they after tonight's win? Are they in
the college football playoffs?
Speaker 4 (31:36):
Yeah, there'll be one of them though, one of the
three or four s SEC teams SEC teams out there.
I saw Lane Kiffin making a speech about how the
SEC is so much better than everybody else.
Speaker 3 (31:49):
I saw that too.
Speaker 2 (31:50):
Man he talked about he actually was calling out and
here's the the I don't mind it, but he was
calling out other conferences and it's like, Bro, the big
trunk he was called. Yeah, yeah, pump your brakes, man,
Pumpier breaks home. That's why we talked about this, Yessley.
There was gonna be a big problem at Tulane not lost.
The Big twelve was in big danger.
Speaker 4 (32:07):
Yeah, I'm not getting their conference ortiment and championed in
and that that's exactly what he wanted. He wanted to
discredit the Big twelve as a as a Boloney Co twelve.
Speaker 3 (32:17):
They're gonna be just fine.
Speaker 2 (32:18):
Clemson, Uh favor twelve and a half at home against
South Carolina fifty is the over and under?
Speaker 3 (32:23):
Are you biting on any of that?
Speaker 4 (32:25):
Yeah? Clemson, I mean they're playing for their spot in
that twelve team playoffs that's a big game for them.
This is a bigger ribbery than people expect. I'm surprised
it's only two and a half. I do like Clemson.
Though South Carolina's played real well this year. Clemson's again
turned the page this year, played a lot better. I
think I'm gonna go with Clemson in this one.
Speaker 2 (32:45):
Ye Tay Clinton in that one and then Auburn and
out iron ball man ten and a half right now
over under fifty two.
Speaker 4 (32:55):
And I'm afraid to touch Alabama with anything after what
they did against Oklahol. You know, that game was so
bad for them that I think it's gonna have Milroe
going back to Alabama for another year because he played
so miserably. If they play like that again, they're gonna
lose again. I have to think that mil Roe is
just so upset of the way is the way him
(33:16):
and his team played. They gotta play better. I mean
they scored three points. I don't know. I think I
gotta take Garburn plus the points in this one.
Speaker 3 (33:24):
Miami.
Speaker 2 (33:25):
Miami goes up to the Carrier Dome to take on
an eight to three Syracuse team eleven point favorites. This
is a really dangerous game. Man, we saw they couldn't
turn it on until the fourth quarter, second half, in
the fourth quarter against wake Forest last week. Syracuse an
eight and three football team. Man, they're not just gonna
roll over for Miami. Does Miami have a little slip
(33:47):
up right here? And if they do lose this game
and go to ten and two, could they fall out
of that twelve so the committee makers can get the
right team, which is Alabama, into the playoffs.
Speaker 4 (34:02):
I don't know that's a possibility. We'll see what happens
down the road there. You're right, this is a good
Syracuse team, not quite like Miami. But Miami can sometimes
look stagnant, you know what I mean. Sometimes we're not
clicking on all cylinders though. Wards, the second best quarterback
coming out of this draft, how many points did you
say it was? I don't have it in front.
Speaker 3 (34:22):
Eleven.
Speaker 4 (34:23):
Oh, that's a lot of points on the road. I
think that's gonna be too many for me. I would
probably take Syracuse plus the eleven.
Speaker 3 (34:30):
Yeah, give me.
Speaker 4 (34:31):
I mean, let's let's face it. After the Georgia Tech
loss that Miami had, they bounced back strong against wake Forest.
So that game against Georgia Tech that was a horrible game.
Speaker 2 (34:43):
For gimme Syracuse at these points right here. All right, man,
that's what Arnie and I think. Man, big college football game.
Tom All, we'll wrap this awesome, outstanding show. We're gonna
introduce Arnie to a game we call who you Got
but my man squeaks Arnie Spayrior. J Verner has to
getting big vanilla funny and for it, Jason More, it
is bad, It's read Mike Harmett, Fox Sports Radio.
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Speaker 2 (35:15):
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Speaker 4 (35:24):
Hey, by the way, you gotta if I read the
bad one, you gotta read the good one from Mario
that says your boss paired both of you and VJ perfectly.
I very much enjoyed listening to you the last two nights.
I normally listen to Sunday That is from Wario. He
is the uh you used to work with one of
our affiliates. I guess I used to work out here
in VERMONTU.
Speaker 2 (35:43):
Yeah, we don't have enough time, man, but I really
want to go oflf on Mary right now.
Speaker 3 (35:47):
But I'm gonna say it is for tomorrow where Martin
I on? That was clever. This is actually it's a
Sentimental Lady by Bob Welch.
Speaker 2 (35:55):
Okay, yeah, I have all his It's one of Arnie's
yacht rock songs.
Speaker 3 (36:00):
Yeah, I purchased all my art there, thank you, yeah,
rock man.
Speaker 2 (36:04):
All right, man, it is time for this is Station
swep in a nation a game we like to play
here call Who You Got?
Speaker 4 (36:11):
Arnie.
Speaker 2 (36:11):
What Patrick is gonna do is give us these clues
and we just have to guess who the player is.
Gonna tell us what sport is from. And we have
to just guess who the player is. Man, say, if
we can beat Patrick, you down, Okay, let's do it.
Speaker 5 (36:22):
Let's go all right, Pat, all right, that's right at
his time for a brand special new edition of Who
You Got with no Martin Weiss, and we have Arnie
Spaniard pinch hitting in for this. But Vija, you know
how this is. Arnie, You're gonna be along for the
ride on this one. So I'm gonna give a couple
hints here for the sake of Arnie. And also I'll
(36:44):
do two just for Arnie. Stah, let's go, let's go
up against the clos let's up against clock. Well, this
guy played for Michigan State in his college career, little brother,
that's what yet? Right? So he was in Michigan State
when he went to college. And then I'll go number
two guests is he is a one time first team
All Pro, a one time second team All Pro, and
(37:05):
a five time Pro bowler.
Speaker 3 (37:07):
Carl Banks.
Speaker 5 (37:09):
No, but I love it, No, Losic Burrs, No, you
have three, Arnid?
Speaker 3 (37:16):
Do you want to take a stab?
Speaker 4 (37:18):
What he said? Banks? Wasn't there the quarterback Tony Banks
from Michigan State? Or No?
Speaker 3 (37:22):
No, that was linebacker Carl Banks that played for the Giants.
Speaker 4 (37:25):
No, no, no, no, there was a quarterback that also.
Speaker 3 (37:27):
Played for me. It's not Banks, though, It's not a
guy named Banks.
Speaker 4 (37:30):
Okay, but I like it. Is it a wide receiver?
Speaker 3 (37:34):
You can't tell you that you have to guest play.
You have the guest players, Buddy, I don't. Oh you
know what.
Speaker 5 (37:37):
No, I'm not going to tell me what position, but
I will say, no, Arnie, it is not a wide receiver.
Speaker 3 (37:41):
Oh wow, No, guess is Arnie?
Speaker 4 (37:43):
No guests?
Speaker 3 (37:44):
All right? Next clue, next clue. Uh, he is a
former first round pick.
Speaker 5 (37:49):
And what the area we're looking at, guys is early
two thousands?
Speaker 6 (37:53):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (37:53):
Got it, Kirk Cousins.
Speaker 5 (37:55):
No, that was late, by the way, late two thousands, Arnie,
you want to take a stab?
Speaker 4 (38:00):
I need know I need another hint?
Speaker 3 (38:02):
Okay, we wait for former first round pick? Yes, in
the early in the early, in the early.
Speaker 2 (38:07):
State, former first round pick early. Oh, already take another pick.
I think I got him.
Speaker 5 (38:14):
Go ahead, Charles Rogers, No, like, yeah, you want you want?
You want me to go one more hint?
Speaker 4 (38:20):
Go ahead, one more hint?
Speaker 5 (38:21):
You know what I'm gonna go. Fun fact here before
I do the ender fun fact. His His wedding with
his lovely wife was featured on an edition of w
E t V show Platinum Weddings.
Speaker 4 (38:34):
For the hell is that?
Speaker 3 (38:36):
Oh? Oh? T J. Duckett.
Speaker 5 (38:38):
Nope, I know you got a lot of guesses there.
Speaker 2 (38:41):
But because I know football football, all right, I know
I got one more.
Speaker 5 (38:47):
Okay, he played. He played for three teams in the NFL.
I'm just gonna say I'll name him right now. The
San Francisco forty nine ers, the Detroit Lawyans, and my
Seattle Seahawks.
Speaker 3 (39:00):
San Francisco detro I'll even.
Speaker 5 (39:02):
Throw in a little all throwing a sweetener for both
you guys. This is a defense player.
Speaker 4 (39:07):
I'll know.
Speaker 3 (39:07):
I love defense. Defensive player from Michigan, not secondary. One
time secondary two.
Speaker 2 (39:15):
Times, one time second team All Pro, fiveteen pro baller,
San fran Detroit, Seattle s linebacker.
Speaker 3 (39:23):
It feels like a linebacker. It feels like it feels like.
Speaker 5 (39:25):
I did say no secondary guys, so good beings eliminates
the seven.
Speaker 2 (39:29):
Guy front seven guy. We got thirty seconds already. I'm
out of guys. Aren't you gotta come up with it?
Speaker 3 (39:36):
Then you haven't guess one damn player.
Speaker 4 (39:41):
Come on, Arnie, you better come up with it. Then
that's what I say.
Speaker 3 (39:45):
Martin, Hey, no, it's not Martin Haynes. He played it.
Speaker 4 (39:46):
Iowa.
Speaker 5 (39:47):
I'm who is his name is not John Cena Julian Peterson?
Speaker 3 (39:53):
Oh wow, I would have never got that one. What
the hell? What I know?
Speaker 4 (39:58):
But I would know what the hell.
Speaker 3 (39:59):
Kind of questions.
Speaker 6 (40:01):
You were?
Speaker 4 (40:02):
What could your knuckle ahead?
Speaker 2 (40:05):
You would have never gotten I would have never gotten now,
and that was a good one.
Speaker 4 (40:10):
That was a good, good one.
Speaker 3 (40:12):
It was because it's really hard, Arnie. That's the thing.
It's supposed to be really hard, Arnie. Like dads, Yeah yeah, no,
literally exactly.
Speaker 4 (40:20):
I'm thinking like it's a common name or something.
Speaker 3 (40:22):
Whatever, bray stuff, Arnie, I love you. It was great.
Happy Black Friday, y'all. Stay tuned.
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