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July 24, 2024 37 mins

Jason and Mike debate if we’ve seen the last Mike Trout in center field. The WNBA All-Star Game ratings were up 300% from last season. The NFL and NFLPA are reportedly discussing a potential 18-game season. Jason says no NFL Player has more pressure on them this year than Aaron Rodgers. And Bill Belichick politely declined the chance to "do anything he wanted" with the 49ers this year.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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(00:49):
Dodgers just get out of a somewhat difficult jam. We're
trying to get out of a difficult jam right now.
They lead the Giants five to two. They gain the
top of the ninth. No, we keep waiting and keep waiting,
and keep waiting, keep waitning.

Speaker 2 (01:02):
It might be the longest game we've watched in a while.

Speaker 1 (01:05):
Yeah, this is this is not gonna help Rob Manford's
pace to play. Shoo Tani is two for five with
three RBI tonight. Former Angel shoot a lot of.

Speaker 2 (01:14):
Pictures showing up for all the Otani giveaways, and they're
coming up in this T shirt.

Speaker 1 (01:20):
That's going to be a hot commodity, no question. Oh yeah,
Frostburg's gonna get like five of them. Oh yeah, but
it's actually a show. We got a big money story
coming your way in a couple of minutes, But it's
actually show. Heyo Tani's teammate, a former teammate that is
making news tonight and in a story. When Frocksburg brought
it to us, he was no more story more on

(01:40):
brand than this Mike Trout, who is who has just
begun a rehab assignment to try to make it back
to the Angels this year. Left his first rehab start
early tonight with a knee issue playing for Triple A
Salt Lake Bees. He was supposed to play four or
five innings. Instead he comes out after two inns. They

(02:00):
call it left knee soreness. He is officially day to day,
And you know, I don't want to sit here and
play Monday morning quarterback. But if even if you want
to deal with now, there's conversations all over the place
about shoe Hey Otani and is Otani? Can you really

(02:22):
have him pitch if he gets hurt again. He's so
valuable as a hitter. The Dodgers are gonna let him
pitch again. Look, I told you that the future for
Otani's He's gonna wind up being a closer. That's how
it's going to go. Less stress on his arm, continue
to pitch, valuable role. But we've seen that his arm
can't hold up. We've seen twice now devastating season ending
elbow injuries for him. So yeah, him as a starting pitcher.

(02:44):
I don't think you can do it. But the Dodge
will let him try again. And look, he was able
to play through it last year. He only shut it
down and had the operation when the Angels came out
of we're out of playoff contentions, he was still able
to play it, still able to hit.

Speaker 2 (02:56):
Yeah, plenty of time to recover before spring training. But
when you when you approach it that way, this is
my last game with this team. It's July eighth. But
I get the conversation with Shoho Tony, but still they're
going to allow him to pitch again. All right, I
see that.

Speaker 1 (03:10):
But if you are the Angels now, and it probably
should have happened a couple of years ago when you
saw his body starting to break down. But Mike Trout,
thirty two years old, this is the best all around
player we have seen in the in the majors the
last decade plus. And the guy can't stay on the field.
His body is just it betrays him. It can't withstand

(03:32):
the pounding of one hundred and forty games a year,
one hundred and fifty games a year, whatever it is.
The fact he comes out of his game tonight, this
should be the final straw, and the Angels need to
get together with Mike Trout and his people and say, Okay,
you know what. I'm sorry, dude, but you've played your
last inning in the field. You need to be a

(03:52):
full time DH. We need you in the lineup. You
need to play. And is it worth it to have
Trout come out and play fifty games a year. He's
a center fielder, and no it's not. You need him
at this point to say my career can continue. And
you're paying him a lot of money that you still
do to them for a long time. This conversation needs
to happen now, sit out, You're gonna be a DH

(04:14):
when you come back, and we'll figure everything else out,
and maybe then Mike Trout can play at one hundred
and forty games a year. If you're just talking about
hitting and running the bases, Yeah, you can extend your
career and be somebody. But it's clear that your body,
whatever it is, playing the field and hit it, you
can't do it. And it sucks and it's terrible. But

(04:35):
if the choice is to be hurt all the time
or you're a full time DH, hey guess what be
a full time DH rake for another five years, whatever
it's gonna be. Extend your career and play. But this
conversation with Trout about this needs to happen tomorrow and say,
all right, you know, let's look, hopefully everything is fine.
You're getting back into it, but you're gonna be a
full time DH. You've played your last inning in center field.

Speaker 2 (04:57):
Yeah, and hopefully this is just a soreness based on
getting back to activities and all of that and nothing
more nefarious, right, because I think all of us as
soon as you say, well, he's been pulled after two inning.
He's like, oh no, because that was not the plan.
The plan was you're going to play a couple of
games and in theory you're back long before the Mets

(05:18):
come to town next week. Instead, now it's the latest
setback in what's really been a half decade of misery. Right,
you had a top five MBP season in the COVID
shortened season, and then you've got four straight years thirty
six games one hundred nineteen and twenty twenty two, Okay,

(05:39):
then eighty two last year and just twenty nine before
he went down this year. Last time he's topped one hundred,
had one hundred and forty games played on the dot
in twenty eighteen, last time, more than that, go all
the way back to twenty sixteen.

Speaker 1 (05:55):
Yeah, I mean it's it's the walls.

Speaker 2 (05:57):
Yeah, he was once a pretty good base Steeler, so
a lot of activity on the base paths, wear and
tear there, the you know, trying to activate all of
those kind of things. It's just it's sad because you
look at the stats, right, three hundred and seventy eight
career home runs, nine hundred and fifty four career RBI,
so right near some massive milestones. Two ninety nine hitter,

(06:20):
add another three hundred and eleven doubles, legging out fifty
four triples, all these things over two hundred career stolen basis.
This guy was on the trajectory like Frank Thomas. We
talked to John de Barosi earlier, same idea of wow,
look at what he's done in this five to seven
year period and compared to man On, compared to Williams,

(06:40):
compared to all these all time greats, and then we've
just watched this body betray him time and time again.

Speaker 1 (06:46):
Yeah, it's sad. This is not anything where you're mad.
And like I said, the only thing you could say
is boy, if you're the Angels, maybe a couple of
years ago you could have said, maybe you played center
for that's probably a thing.

Speaker 2 (06:57):
But you'd already brought in and gross overpaid Rendon, who
the only thing he could do was dh because otherwise
he was on the il. And then you had the
final runs of Pools, who you didn't want him in
the field anymore. So now you had three guys that
you were gonna fight and play utes that mean to
be the d eight.

Speaker 1 (07:17):
We're gonna have openings at the field there's gonna be
no first baseman, centerfielder, or third base.

Speaker 2 (07:22):
So we're gonna have tryoffs.

Speaker 1 (07:23):
Everybody's just gonna be quick exit out by the Fresco
exit swelling down the Jason Smith Show with my best
friend in Mike Carmen. Dodgers close out the Giants. Evan
Phillips comes in, gets the final out of the game.
They wind up winning at five to two. Meanwhile, so
from trout to the money story that we promised, the
or the number story rather, ratings for the WNBA All

(07:47):
Star Game came out a couple hours ago. It broke
a record, of course, that stood for the last twenty years.
Two thousand and four, the highest rate WNBA All Star
Game of all time came through one point one million viewers. Okay,
this past Saturday where Team WNBA All Stars beat the

(08:10):
Olympic Team as we said they would hashtagated hashtag Loser
Stays Home. The numbers for that game came out three
and a half million viewers for this game. Now, I
get that you're talking about Okay, three and a half,
but you this is a league where now you've gone
from nothing to all of a sudden you are part

(08:32):
of the everyday sports conversation. Right, you've made it three
and a half million people watching the All Star Game.
Caitlin Clark tennis, she played great, Angel Reese had a
good game. Rikyo Gunbawally. We told her she was gonna
take a lot of shots. She made most of them,
which is why they were able to win. That third
quarter was insane. Man, I'm going boys, she shoots thirty percent.

(08:52):
Uh yeah, and here she is shooting fifty percent. Wow,
more nights are shooting fifty percent. Maybe she gets picked
for the Olympic team. I'm just saying she's volume. So
she also told them to beat it. Yeah, the last
two times she had great All Star games, not picked
for the Olympic team. But look, I get the part.
Just not not to get too far away from this,
but I understand that part of this. You're talking about
a different kind of basketball, and you know, is a

(09:15):
gunbal Wally being a volume shooter going to fit in
with what Team USA tries to do. Yeah, she scores
twenty five points a game, she takes twenty five shots.

Speaker 2 (09:24):
But it's like watching rom the floor, right, Joel Embiid
and numbering around as he is with the Olympic team. Here,
size of the court, pace of the play, all that
other stuff. Maybe Anthony Davis is the better, better guy. Yeah,
bade games don't fit in right, Yeah, But the point
just being that she comes out revenge game, whatever you

(09:44):
want to call it. They had a blast, They win
the game, and millions upon millions of people tuned in, and.

Speaker 1 (09:51):
I guarantee you they thought the same thing about Kaitlin Clark.
She would have commands to be a volume shooter. She doesn't. Oh,
she's turned into the best point guard in the game.
Oh wow, we look stupid. But just for a second now,
because you see all the recaps and everything, say, hey,
the WNBA these ratings because of the excitement of this
rookie class, which includes Caitlyn Clark and Angel Reese and others.

(10:11):
You know, honestly, look, Angel Reese is a terrific player, right,
She's a WNBA star, She is popular, she's a good player.
I'd be told her she was gonna be Draymond Green.
We told you months ago she's gonna be Draymond Green.
She's be popular on the court, popular off the court,
and people pay attention to her.

Speaker 2 (10:27):
Mayarn may not be dating Kevin Duranta may.

Speaker 1 (10:29):
Or may not be, don't know. We'll find well, she's
in Paris for the Olympics, so we'll find uh, Well,
where do you want to be seen this week? But
let's be honest, Caitlyn Clark is the show. All these
all these other players. We can say it's great for
Cameron Brankin, Camilla Cardoso and all these other players are
great and this is not anything against them. They're all

(10:52):
really good players. They're star players. Not anything against Sabrina
eyan ESQ. It's nothing against Brianna Stewart. Caitlin Clark is
the show. He is what people tune in for. And
every time they say, oh, it's Caitlin Clark and Angel Reesa,
why do we keep having to say Angel Reese's name? Yes? Y?
Does she get mad if you don't say your name?

Speaker 4 (11:09):
Like?

Speaker 1 (11:10):
Really? I mean, I feel like, you know, Angel Reese
is someone who really wants you to know that she's
popular and is always out there doing things like I'm sorry,
Angel Reeson, Caitlin Clark. Their popularity ain't the same, right.
I know that because watching the All Star Game, guess
what Angel Reese would have played more than seventeen minutes,
Caitlyn Clark played the entire game. All right, there have
been seventeen WNBA games this year now, counting the All

(11:33):
Star Game that more than a million people watched. Right
when they never could get a million people to watch.
Seventeen games with more than a million viewers, Caitlin Clark
has played in fifteen of them. So let's just stop.
Let's just stop with the pretense of all these other players.
Caitlyn Clark is the show. Nobody walks around and go
and says, oh, boy, hey, the success of Victor Wemban
Yama and the rest of the rookie class. No, if

(11:54):
you're talking about Wemby and now grady ism, look at
Wemby Loo at what he's doing. He's gonna be the
best player in the league in the year. Maybe he's
a top two player and in six months whenever nobody feels, oh,
we have to do No, you don't have to sit
here and justify everybody I don't like I said. Does
Angel Reese get mad if something happen if you don't
say her name, Oh, I'm sorry, and I'm sorry that
if on social media people think that, oh, because people

(12:14):
want to tweet stuff. They think all the popularity between
the two. No, there is no measuring the popularity of
Caitlyn Clark and anybody else in the WNBA. There's no
point in measuring the popularity of King Clark and almost
any other athlete that's not named Otani or Mahomes or
Lebron because that's the effect she has had on this game.
We told you she's magic and Larry's She's not Larry

(12:38):
and Katelyn and Angel Reese is mad. She's magic and Larry.
She is both. And if you can argue about the
talent and who the best players are, that's a different conversation.
We can have that conversation. That's a that's a more
fun one because that's okay with this And how good
is Kitlyn Clark and what has she done? What is
Angel rees done? How good is Asia Wilson? All that?
But you talk about popularity, it's Kitlyn Clark and everybody

(13:00):
else and there's no need to kN do Hey, let's
keep pushing it. No, let's give Caitlin Clark credit because
when someone does something for a league, they should get
the credit, and she should get the credit for everything
that has happened from charter flights to a two hundred
and fifty percent increase on television rights, to everything else
going on in the WNBA that means more money for them.

Speaker 2 (13:21):
She is the show the run to two point two
billion or two point three billion, whatever that number was
that was cut off of the NBA's rights deal that
folks are still unhappy about. Cheryl Millers like it should
be at least eight billion. How do you figure still
losing money this year doesn't mean that's your trajectory.

Speaker 1 (13:41):
Is you know what, I just won the All Star Game? Right,
maybe I should coach Star a chant.

Speaker 3 (13:45):
Well that's what I mean.

Speaker 1 (13:47):
How about eight billion dollars for us?

Speaker 2 (13:49):
It's under under it And maybe that's the case, maybe
that's what it grows to. But you know, to your point,
the Ace has sold out all their games. Great, whenever
the Fever come to town, it's what seventeen to twenty
thousand seat arena nearby the city is available. And if
we can change stuff around with somebody else and kick

(14:10):
them out, let's do it.

Speaker 1 (14:11):
Right.

Speaker 2 (14:11):
They had that issue where they tried to do it
in Chicago. Yeah, and they couldn't because they already had
a sold out concert for a guy we'd never heard of.

Speaker 1 (14:18):
No, But it's like when the Yankees would barnstorm in
the twenties with Babe Ruth. It's like, we can't have
the game in the stadium because more fans want to come.
So we're going to go to this field that this
farmer's allowing us to use, and one hundred thousand people
can come and watch Babe Ruth play baseball. Like that's
what's happening now.

Speaker 2 (14:33):
People don't get with it, but it's not denying that
the fan base or the fervor behind Angel Reese. And
that's part of the reason that you see the headlines.
You know, just as we do the quick searches, there's
always going to be the Hey and Angel Reese because
looking at you know, from fanatics, they put out their
their top five from the WNBA Clark Reese, I ask you,

(15:00):
Kate Martin is sports Wow, followed by Asia Wilson. So
there's your your top five in terms of merch. Obviously
Wilson's gonna win the MVP once again. But you know,
Angel Ree said, I think it's just trying to be
inclusive and like, yeah, you're here too, so let's you know,
let's give everybody credit just recognizing that we're talking scale here. Yeah,

(15:23):
in terms of what's moving the need. Here's popular, and
there's being the Star, and then there's Caitlin Clark. I mean,
just understand that that's the case. The Jason Smith Show.

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a big story today. But speaking of stories, Uh, the

(18:19):
NFL is inching closer. We get this fairly regularly to
an eighteen game season. The quote today from the two
sides that are talking, Hey, we've had as much superficial, deep,
superficial conversation as we can have with his story, and
now we have to talk seriously about it.

Speaker 2 (18:37):
Like this is like Ted Lasso when he's like, is
doctor Sharon moving close? I swear she's getting close? And
she's moving down like two or three rows every time
he turns out. It's the same thing with his eighteen
game schedule.

Speaker 1 (18:49):
Superficial kye, Like what is his high school? Well, we
talked about a relationship as superficially seriously as we can.
I think he loves me, but I'm not sure we're
gonna talk about him again. What do you do?

Speaker 2 (19:00):
You like this stuff?

Speaker 1 (19:02):
It's just you know, but we're gonna wind up with
an eighteen game season.

Speaker 3 (19:07):
We know this.

Speaker 1 (19:07):
It's gonna be what do the players get? Is it
going to be more healthcare? Is gonna be more money?
It will be something. But I gotta say hearing the
Roger Goodell vision of what he wants this to be,
which is an eighteen game season potentially with more than
one bye for a team, because Joe Burrow has talked about,
hey what about two you're heading eighteen games? How about another? Buye?
And Roger Goodell is open.

Speaker 2 (19:27):
To that except for the He also added the hey,
let's do the Pro Bowl week thirty, which is just.

Speaker 1 (19:33):
But that, but he said, hey, he's looking away and
making the season longer, and he's he his grand vision
is to have the season culminate with the Super Bowl
President's Day weekend. Again, we've seen in the past, not
too real. I'm old enough to remember when ESPN wanted
to put big time games on New Year's Even if

(19:53):
that doesn't work when your sporting events on holiday weekends
aren't great, but hey, this is what this is what
Goodell was well.

Speaker 2 (19:59):
But I mean, at least with Presidents Day weekend, other
than people going up to their ski chalets.

Speaker 1 (20:04):
I have the next we have the next day off. No,
and it's not that nobody, but you can't have less
people watching the Super Bowl, right, you can have a
few less, But if you go from one hundred and
ten million to ninety two million because people are whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa,
that's that's bad. But I don't think fuzzy math. Yeah,
I don't think the extending the season to the end

(20:26):
of February or the third week of February is going
to be met with the overwhelming. Yes, yes, yes, yes,
that he expects it to because we're not underserved for
football anymore, and we get our fill of football, we
get all the kinds of football we want to and
anything that's good. I get the tendency to say, let's

(20:47):
just make it longer, but nobody really wants that. Nobody
wants longer seasons on television shows, No one wants longer movies. Yeah,
we want, we want things that are good, we want
more of it, but we don't want it to be
something longer. I don't think anybody wants is gonna be excited. Oh,
the NFLC is gonna start in the beginning of September.
When's an end? Now? Now it's the middle of end

(21:08):
of February. Oh, and there's bys and my team doesn't
play a couple of weeks. I think it's kind of
a meh. I think I think eighteen games is exciting,
and I like the fact I like eighteen games, but
the overall, if you're gonna extend the season that long,
what you're gonna have to do, I think that's gonna
be met with a meh, because I know I'm just
mad saying, oh, so we have We're gonna have less
football every week and instead, you know, because you say, well,

(21:31):
you have a football. I'm sorry. Cardinals Seahawks is not
a game, right, Jags Titans is not a game. We
still have nine games. No, Jags Titan is not a game.
Raiders and anybody is not a game. So you're gonna
give less football. There's gonna be more time off, you
have more time between games. The playoffs are gonna be longer.
People are gonna look at that and go, oh yeah, okay,

(21:53):
so it's eighteen. It's a it's gone. It's not gonna
be met with the overwhelming excitement that that the NFL thinks, Hey,
an eighteen season and playing the Super Bowl President's Day
Week and is gonna be met with it. It's gonna
be more of a shrug.

Speaker 2 (22:05):
I just think in the end, it's deemed inevitable at
this point. We've been talking about it for years.

Speaker 4 (22:11):
You know.

Speaker 2 (22:11):
It's it's that poison pill that's been sitting there since
the last CBA. And what are we gonna see. We're
gonna see the players acquiesce for another day or two
off and you know, extra tartar sauce to steal from
the Simpsons, because that's what they do every negotiation because
they're gonna get their money, right, That's just the way
it works. It's the CBA. They get their fifty percent

(22:32):
and and you move on. But trying to get the
substantce things about healthcare and service time relative to what
your benefits are and lifetime benefits and all that, those
are the things you should be fighting for. How you
implement the bye week is important. I think one of
the things Burrow had said in that interview a couple
of weeks ago was kind of theorizing of a, hey,

(22:55):
everybody just takes a week off, as opposed to doing
the scheduling algorithm where you're just adding another buy for
teams U over a course of a couple of weeks.
So you know, that's a curious point to be made
for it. But revenue up. Will we watch live TV
pretty much for anything? But look at the NBA throughout

(23:18):
nobody on a relative basis ratings wise, it just signed
an eleven year, seventy six billion dollar deal. Right, So
for the NFL, they're like, all right, we get up
to two hundred and eighty eight games that harmon can't
live without them all and look, playoff battles will be
more contested, we'll have more division h and separation from

(23:42):
some of the bottom feeders, maybe to where a trade
deadline becomes that much more substantive. So maybe there's a
little more juice in the middle of a season as
well as opposed to all this guy's playing out the
string for a crappy team. Come see him one more
time before he signed somewhere else, and no, we could
trade him and actually do something with him, and he

(24:03):
can go be happy and we can get draft picks
and whatever else. So I think there's some other parts
to it, but I understand the reticence of it. I
the calendar part of it is a bit daunting the
further you go through, and it's like when baseball plays
into November now right, Psychologically it's still uh, it's it's
still something that you can't reconcile the fact that the

(24:26):
basketball season it just ended and we're at the Olympics,
and guess what they're gonna come back from the Olympics.
They're gonna have a two week vacation and then it's
gonna be time for training camp for them. Because we
moved up the calendar right, So it's no longer Halloween
and thereabouts, it's middle of October that we're starting the
NBA season, So it's all all been done sport to sport,

(24:48):
and so this one is just, you know, test how
much you're gonna need that bucket, Like you're in a
Moani Python skin.

Speaker 1 (24:55):
Exit out about a Fresco exit swalling down the Jason
Smith Show with Mike Carmon. We have more NF coming
up next. The player under the most pressure this season
and it's not even close. So this big story today
in the NFL is actually about a quarterback. Hassan Reddick
was obtained by the Jets this offseason to ostensibly replace

(25:18):
a couple of players in the defensive line rotation. Right,
They let John Franklin Myers go, who is a pretty
good defensive lineman. They let Bryce Huff go in free
agency to the Eagles because their plan was, Okay, we're
gonna know these guys are doing a lot of money.
We're in an all in situation this year with Aaron Rodgers.
So they go out and get a son Reddick from

(25:38):
the Eagles, who's thirty, wants a new contract, but not
many guys are better at getting to the passer. Reddick
is going to make the defensive line as great as
it is even better. The Jets have one of the
top three defenses in the NFL. Problem is whether it's
the Jets fault, and it is the Jets fault because
it's the Jets when they traded for Supposedly, the Jets say,

(26:01):
Reddick was fine understanding that he's not going to get
a new contract. He's gonna come in, get in the building,
and then the Jets would see what happened. Sure now,
whether something has changed because he saw how guys were
getting paid or he lied to them.

Speaker 2 (26:14):
Did he get hoodwinked like when Kirk Cousins.

Speaker 1 (26:17):
Cat fits Jason He actually told them he declined it. Yeah,
but but it was a whole They still traded for him. Yes,
he will because he wanted he wants a long term deal.
But the Jets say, look like I said, the Jets say,
he knew what was going on, and now he's saying
I'm not coming to camp. He hasn't been with the

(26:37):
team yet. I still don't think he's met Robert Salah
and he is holding out from training camp, which is
never going to end well because a guy that wants
money like this, that hasn't played for the Jets. He's
going to show up late, he's not gonna have a
great year, and he's not gonna get paid. Right, That's
exactly what's going to happen. So he's really you know,
he's got eighteen million come in this year. He wants

(26:59):
more money or he wants to know you want to
He want you know, a longer term deal, more guaranteed money. Yeah,
and all he's gonna do is show up late, not
be in football shape, not have a great season, and
no one's gonna pay it. Pay Well, that's what's gonna We.

Speaker 2 (27:10):
Would love to see what what kind of numbers were
being bandied about right as he came came to the squad,
and just generally, you know, in the what was the
phrase you used about the eighteen game season?

Speaker 1 (27:23):
Then I was kind of met on it.

Speaker 2 (27:24):
No, no, no, the uh the term you used in
terms of the the engagement, the uh how tep it or.

Speaker 1 (27:34):
The the I forget?

Speaker 2 (27:36):
That was just that was the casual, casual conversation like, hey,
do you think maybe we can get you signed to
a long term deal? Like when are we talking? And
then they have that little little all right, we'll table
that for now, uh and get to its more substantive
later on. And so it never happened, right, In other words,
that the numbers, if they did have an initial conversation

(27:59):
he and his agent, they probably insulted the guy. I
don't know that it's to the Paul George. They offered
me this, and you're gonna go on a podcast and
lay it all out. But yeah, this is a disaster
scenario for you.

Speaker 1 (28:13):
Right now. It's disaster. But here's the thing. This shows
you the pressure that Aaron Rodgers is under this year.
Nobody is under more pressure than Rogers because a He's
looking at the end of his career. If he has
another down year, if he doesn't play well or he
gets hurt again, his career is over. And he likes
being listened to. He likes being able to say crazy

(28:35):
stuff on podcasts. He likes being that guy. And yeah,
is he still gonna be a someone of personality after Yeah,
but he's not gonna have as much power as he's
not gonna play anymore. He knows that this year he
is playing for his NFL career. At the same time
he is being asked to save the Jets, to cover
up all the warts that the Jets have, and you

(28:59):
do ask your quarterback to cover up your ills. I'm
not saying you ask all quarterbacks to do this, but
this just shows you that you're being asked to cover
the Jets because here's a son Reddick where they traded
for a guy, let a couple of guys go who
are really good, and now they can't get him into
the building like this is peak Jets, and you're asking
Aaron Rodgers, hey cover this up because if he's great

(29:22):
and the Jets score, but then this doesn't matter. Nobody cares. Right,
look at Aaron Rodgers, the Jets, but this is why
he's under more pressure than anybody else, because not only
does he have to worry about his own career and
playing well, it's cover things up here for the Jets.
Cover things up because boy, we really don't know what
we're doing and we need you to cover a bad
move like this. This is this is why you're looking

(29:44):
at him and he's got Wow. It's a lot to
ask of a guy to say, hey, be great and
cover all this crap up. Don't just be a guy
that hey put stats up and throw that, but cover
all this stuff up. Right. It's like like when you
sit on a log and you have the bark side
of the log and everything fine, and then you turn
that log over. There's all kind of bugs crawling around,
and there's there's little roly poly bugs caught in sap,

(30:07):
and there's ants, and there's all kinds like, oh, turn
that back over, man, I don't want that. They're asking
Aaron Rodgers be the bark side of the log and
cover that up, cover up everything under there. Nobody under
more pressure than him, the bark side of the log.
You coined a new phrase as we go here, play
bark side of the luge.

Speaker 2 (30:26):
Actually, God, I believe it was the casual conversation or
thereabouts is what we were looking at about the eighteen
game season. But yeah, for Aaron Rodgers, you've got a
lot of folks that have their poison pens ready. But
as long as he gets past four snaps, you already
hit the over.

Speaker 1 (30:45):
Don't worry about it. He's in six snaps now, you
got it. Man.

Speaker 2 (30:49):
We're better off than last year.

Speaker 1 (30:52):
Exit out by the Fresca exit swollen down. The Jason
Smith Show with my best friend Mike Carman live from
the tire rack dot Com studios. Coming up next, we
have a surprising NFL story you're not gonna believe. Who
was asked to join the forty nine Ers as their
defensive coordinator and he said no, that's next right here,

(31:15):
Jason and Mike.

Speaker 3 (31:16):
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Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
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Speaker 1 (31:24):
MA gonna sweep the Yankees An.

Speaker 2 (31:31):
Tell you're gonna blow your voice right back out here.
Gotta be careful.

Speaker 1 (31:36):
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Mike Harmon.

Speaker 3 (31:40):
You can't go full Blue Swede Blue Swede nineteen seventy five.

Speaker 1 (31:51):
Fun story today, h forty nine Ers head coach Kyle
Shanahan spoke with Tim Kewakami, who was a longtime forty
nine Ers insider in Bay Area, and discussed Bill Belichick,
and it came out that Shanahan really was interested in

(32:17):
Belichick joining the team, very surprised that Belichick went through
the head coaching interviews and didn't get a gig, and
he revealed on the podcast that he offered Belichick any
position he'd like with the forty nine ers, except of
course the head coaching course. Hey, so any job you want,

(32:40):
you know, except for my right, I mean, any other job.
I can't give you mine. I mean, I didn't think
I really needed to just you know, put that out there.
But you know, just so we're clear, you'd have to
talk to John. But job, you know, never mind, just
any job you want, any job you want. Quote. I
threw it all out to him, whatever he'd want to do.
He politely turned me down. So Bill Belichick was asked

(33:04):
to join the team. Could have been the defensive coordinator,
any position, just can't give your mind, can't give you
my gig any position.

Speaker 2 (33:10):
But I liked how he continued down the thought process
of actually, this could have been disastrous for me because
if he came around, he's gonna learn a lot of
the stuff we do. And then who knows if he's
coaching in division against me. I like the synapses firing
as he's like, wait, I made that offer, and then
that really could have gone badly.

Speaker 1 (33:31):
Here's an Arizona Cardinals head coach Bill Belichick, right, I mean,
could you can you imagine just think about it? Can
you imagine him wearing a defensive coordinator headset and being
a DC with a team. I mean, can you ie?
I mean it would look like Kyle Shanahan is a
guy that won a contest to to you know, to
to wear a headset on the sideline. Well there's Bill Belichick.

(33:52):
Now he's the defensive coordinator again.

Speaker 2 (33:54):
Now he starts to do it all like Emperor Palpatine
and controlling Shanahan's mind. I'm really surprised he didn't, you know,
in addition to doing a bunch of media stuff this year,
that he's not like coaching a lacrosse team or something somewhere.

Speaker 1 (34:07):
No, because look Belichick thinks, and look what Bill Belichick
thinks is going to happen is different from the reality.
Anybody could have had him this offseason. Anybody could nobody
hired him. He is going all in on the hopes
because the Giants aren't gonna hire him, the Eagles aren't
gonna have Cowboy. He is going all in that after
this year, Jerry Jones will be crazy enough to offerim

(34:29):
the head coaching position that I need to make a splash.
I like having, you know, I like being able to
share the spotlight. Belichick certainly would be that guy. I
like being able to spotlight on the Dallas Cowboys, and
he is going all in on that. He's he's gonna
go all season Belichick. And I'll tell you when we
see him on TV, yes, he'll be a little entertaining, say, hey,
Belichick's pretty cool because he needs to show two things

(34:51):
that he can get along with people. Right, That's number
one thing? It could you get along with our GM?
Could you get along? If you're not picking the groceries?
Can you get along? He's going to show that he's
got a fun side to his personality and he still
knows the game better than anyone, because those are the
two biggest criticisms of him the last couple of years
is that he's not going to get along with anybody,
so you don't want him in your building. And two,

(35:13):
has the game passed and by it has, but he doesn't,
but he's not. He wants to show you I'm still
as up on the game as anybody else. And he's
going to use this whole year as the last part
of his resume to say, hire me so I could
come in and pass Don Shula and whatever else he
wants to do. Those are the two things he's going
to try to accomplish this year, and that's he's gonna focus.

Speaker 2 (35:32):
I think from the coaching side, I don't think that
got pasted him. I think it was the talent evaluation
guys of guys to put them into said schemes, because
he did pretty well for the most part with some
dubious decisions, even with no wide receivers, they were still
able to win some games along the way. But yeah,
coaching them up and I've seen enough from the media side,

(35:55):
he's going to be a lot of fun. Like I
I was the one nerd outside of Basin that would
try to find the YouTube upload of his weekly chalk
talks uh and breakdown of the Big Place. I hope
you explaining it to me like I'm a five year
old laughing when something went wrong and and all that
showing the personality and ability to roll with the punches.

Speaker 1 (36:17):
So next year I'll be six. I know, ip you again, No,
I I hope you're right, because he's one of those
guys that comes to the media with an agenda, like
Brady wants to be a great broadcaster, open things up
other people. He comes in going I want to get
back on that sideline next year. How do I do it?

(36:39):
I have to be engaging. I have to and I
have to show everybody a different side of me so
they're comfortable with me. And I got to show that
I still know the game because the last few years,
I don't know, you had You had a former defensive coordinator,
You've made zero offer. Like I said, most decisions, you
had Matt Jones, who stinks, and you had people going,
I don't know who's more right Matt Ohones or Bill Belichick.

(37:00):
Think about that, man, not who's right Belichick or Brady
Belichick or Mac bleeping Jones. Man, come on, he's got,
He's gotted those two things. He's gotta do it, and
that's he's gonna try to do this year.

Speaker 2 (37:11):
The Matt Patricia thing will never make sense to anybody
in this universe or any other.

Speaker 1 (37:16):
No, it doesn't look I hope. So I hope he's fun.
You look like that.

Speaker 2 (37:22):
No, no, no, no, I know as much as you
hate Belichick.

Speaker 1 (37:25):
No, No, he's got. We're winning thirteen games, We're winning
the AFC East this year. USA Today says we're winning
the Super Bowl. We're beating the Packers in the Super Bowl.
Come on, man, like they didn't draw that up for
the narrative. Mind Rogers my first favorite newspaper, Are you
kidding me? I'd even buy I'd buy a copy of
that just so I can hang it up in my
Oh see, if we can find us to win how

(37:48):
many socks for Reddick?

Speaker 4 (37:50):
You know what?

Speaker 1 (37:51):
Never mind, you shut up, that's how many
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