June 29, 2023 • 28 mins
Jason Smith and Mike Harmon react to Domingo German tossing the 24th perfect game in Major League baseball history.
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in Major League Baseball Tonight. Domingo Hermano the Yankees pitches
just the twenty fourth perfect game in MLB history. The
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Yankee shut out the A's eleven nothing, twenty seven up,
twenty seven down. A great play or a really pressure
filled play by Josh Donaldson to end it, and you know,
we got into it a little bit a few minutes ago, Mike.
But boy, you just you just really think about could
this season get any.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
Worse for the A's.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
I mean, just you think all this season nobody goes
to the games. They finally have one night where they
do the reverse boycott, and the next day Vegas puts
through money for the new ballpark, and you know, the
A's are leaving. It could be one more lame duck
year before they wind up going to Vegas. And here
in the middle of smack deb in the middle of
the season, it's a perfect game now to no hitter
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a perfect game. It's it's like, I don't know that
you can I think you're at rock bottom. I don't
know that you can dig any lower if you're the
A's after having this happen.
Speaker 4 (01:50):
I think for this one, Jason, this is this is
just you know, icing on the proverbial cake, the celebration
of what was once great Oakland A's baseball, what.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
Was once great and what could be again.
Speaker 3 (02:02):
You know what, I don't know I'm gonna do it
for it.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
It's not gonna be great in Oakland again. I'm pretty
sure about not in Oakland. And that's not happening. And
you know, We've talked about it. You don't have population
all the different reasons why you would get to this point.
You know, it really just comes down to how many
Brinks trucks, Uh take your stuff to Vegas. But when
when it's all said and done here, I think, well,
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let me divert before I continue on the baseball site,
Uh with the A's. I'm gonna say, you're now obsessed
with this Yankees milestone because you get away from talking
about that horrible optic of your owner having to basically
say we suck oh and sitting behind that that table.
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So yeah, the A's. This is just another there's another blip. Man, Like,
at this point, what else do you got? You had
a possum in the freaking broadcast booth. That what made
more noise than anything else going on. You have tonight
two legends in our profession, right, the larger sports broadcast media,
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John Sterling and Michael k They think so little of you.
When they decided which road trips they were gonna take,
you weren't on it at all. Again, maybe afraid of possums,
I'm not sure. But when it comes down to like you've.
Speaker 4 (03:26):
Got all of these different pieces, you look at the payrolls,
you look at all of these different data points along
the way. This is just another one of them, and
you just shake your head and go, yeah, it's the Beatles.
It's getting better all the time. Why it can't get
much worse.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
It's so it's so difficult because I, you know, because
I think about the A's and here's the thing, and
this is why I'm so happy for teams like the
Reds and the Orioles who.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
Were winning this year and they're doing well.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
Look that Red's Oriole series, a great series, you know,
highly ten. People are talking about a lot. Well, it's
the good and the bad, right, You're happy for the fans.
Speaker 4 (04:02):
You're happy that somewhere in the talent evaluation something has
clicked and things are are you know, the ship is writing.
But you have the same ownership groups who have been
well terrible for a long time.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
But you know, the thing is is that you know,
you and I are both about the same age, and
you and you and I grew up watching the same
teams excel. In the late seventies early eighties, the best
teams in baseball were the Reds and the Orioles.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
Right, the A's and doers. The Dodgers were.
Speaker 4 (04:35):
The Dodgers were great Dodgers, never really, I mean.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
Right, Dodge Dodge were terrific. Hey, look, late seventies, early eighties,
Dodgers were always in, never really.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
Took any time off. You know.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
Dodge went, they went, they won to get an eighty
eight went. And the Angels, right, they were all the
best teams in Major League Baseball. And this was a
great era for them because those are always the best teams.
And I grew up the Big Red Machine, and how
good those Angels teams were in the late seventies early eighties,
and and and guys like Carnie Lanford and Brian Downing
winning a batting title. And then you go to the
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Orioles with all their starting pitchers and Palmer and McGregor
and and how good they were. And you go to
and then you know, you hit the uh, you hit
the A's who are coming off of winning. But then
Billy Ball shows up, and it's Ricky Henderson and here
come the A's suddenly and Dwayne Murphy and they're winning
a lot of games, and they have a great starting
pitching staff and Billy Martin threw everybody. You know, eight
innings every single game, Mike Norris, all those guys, and
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it was great and it was a great time. And
I don't know if it's just because it makes me
think back to when I was young, coming up and
and and and being a baseball fan, but you know,
seeing things like the A's being so bad, it's kind
of sad. And seeing this bad, I mean, just this
bad for the A's is really sad for all of
these teams. So I kind of liked that for the
most part, all the teams of my youth are being
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good again because it's kind of fun.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
But at the same time, now I look.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
At the A's, I go, man, they're just getting it
for everybody, Like like they were listen, We're just gonna
take the l's for everybody, L after L after L
all the way through.
Speaker 4 (06:02):
No, the Mets and the Padres and a few other
teams are right there with them. They're the worst of it.
Them and the Royals on's great as well, even recently
when they beat the Mets.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
Don't forget your White Sox, don't forget your.
Speaker 4 (06:19):
Well no, no, no, no no, I mean that just
goes without saying. I know who's who knows me, has
watched me die a little bit most August into September.
I'm not quite your Mets to Jets thing, but but
it's pretty darn close sometimes. But it's the the idea
with the the cyclicality of things, and that's normally out
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we run where it's all right down for a few years,
but strong organizations bounce back right the In the NFL,
all right, the Ravens have a bad year or two,
maybe some of the talent evaluation doesn't work. You get
hit with a really inordinate number of of injuries, and
you expect, you know, the to come back because you
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plan and you build your roster the right way. Baseball
takes a lot to go right all the way through
the minor leagues money flow, and that's certainly something the
A's haven't had. We talk about the attendance again, because
it is one of the parts that you have to
keep underlying, underlining on your text here, because you're you're
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talking about a place that is only five hundred thousand,
Big So and San Francisco has their own team, so
they're not coming across the bridge to watch it except
for three games or two games or however long the
series is in a given year, and so for the A's,
I mean, you're hoping traveling fans come through, Yankee fans,
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folks that want to see Otani the few times he's
in with the Angels and all, but otherwise you're not
drawn from a huge base, which is why they're attendance
is under two million pretty much for the last twenty years. So,
you know, like the than O snap inevitable talk about
the cash considerations and where the game is going. Look
at the cost of franchises across the major sports when
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they move and help look at the transfer fees when
major talents move in the world of soccer, as we've
been tracking these last couple of days. So yeah, it's
good to see, you know, some of these other teams
where we get to chronicle some of the history and
show some of the legends. We got George Foster into
the show Concepcion. For the A's, we think of Carney Lansford,
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we think of Bill North, we think of Ricky Henderson
and all the legends, the pitchers that weren't mentioned in
Moneyball and all those things that you come through, and
it's you know, it's a rich tapestry of the history.
But you know, sometimes folks get you know, you got
to change the rules of engagement X size. Things are
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really changed. Things out to hopefully regrow. Right, you rip
out your garden so it can bloom better the next year.
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Speaker 3 (09:20):
Jason, Yeah, what you got Frostburg.
Speaker 6 (09:21):
The big story coming out of this one is how
many people in New York actually know this happened?
Speaker 1 (09:25):
Oh, I you know, I texted my dad and Fox
slapping my dad.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
I mean my dad's gonna yeah he has Neither of
them got back to me.
Speaker 4 (09:32):
I gotta say, Walter has been really disappointing this season.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
Yeah, he has been. Yeah, my dad's had a bad year. Yeah,
my dad, my dad. Yeah, I don't want to rip.
Speaker 4 (09:41):
Him if he's having issue. But but my normal vault
and this sucks you.
Speaker 3 (09:45):
No, no, no, my dad is fine.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
But like if you're talking with my dad, like being
around to be on the radio when things like this happened.
He's had a bad year. He's it in one ninety
seven and his power numbers are terrible. Like that, that's
my day. He's having a bad year that way.
Speaker 4 (09:57):
I mean, the greatest ability is of availability. I know
you're not even getting snarky responses or you and your
Mets or any I'll tell you know, and I'll tell
you I don't have time for this.
Speaker 3 (10:11):
Here's the worst part for me, right, here's the worst part,
now you know.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
Here's the worst part is that you know and I
just got I got to this part and I just want.
Speaker 3 (10:18):
To just I want to pull the skin off my forehead.
Is that nothing? Of course, it has.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
To happen on a day where the Mets have a
panicked press conference with the owner who says I'll trade
everybody if things don't get better. Things are terrible right now,
we're eighteen games out. It makes no difference. It's on
the players. The players are underperforming all the bad things.
He's right, But here's your owner having a press conference
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saying my team stinks and I'll trade everybody, which no
other owners have, and that leads into yet another Mets
loss where they were kind of listless and couldn't score
any runs.
Speaker 3 (10:55):
So of course that's not enough. That's not enough for
me for one day.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
No, no, the night has to end with the Yankees
having a perfect game that night, and we have to
talk about it like that. So just just think about that.
Nothing gives you a bigger reality check reminding you where
you are in the pecking order of things. And we
had this ridiculous press conference during the day where the
owner's got to stand up and say things, and the
Mets go on to lose. No, no, no, Hey, what about
the Yankees all a perfect game where the game that
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night awesome. Yes, nothing reminds me more of that. It's
just that's just bleeping depressing me.
Speaker 4 (11:27):
I just think a week ago Steinbredder was crying because
the fans were mad at him. You know. Part of
the touching story for Jamon is he just lost an uncle.
So that was part of the process as he was
getting ready for this game the last couple of days
and building into this. But it's another Yankee milestone, fourth
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perfect game of all time. Now that's one more than
the White Sox. And so you have this opportunity to,
you know, juxtapose things against the futility of the Mets.
And and as much as this is a big story,
I mean an owner going and you know, throwing his
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hands up in the air despite spending a lot of money,
that's still a huge story. And I really do think
we need to hear and talk about it.
Speaker 5 (12:13):
Jason, I know how you could get payback?
Speaker 3 (12:16):
How can I get payback?
Speaker 6 (12:17):
You tweet out the Yankees won the World Series tonight.
People are gonna wake up in New York reading your
tweet thinking they won the World Series.
Speaker 4 (12:26):
I really thought you were just gonna say, go Key
Waltz car.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
No, come on, I'm not going to do that. Come on, Well,
why are you getting a wagon so violent about that?
Speaker 4 (12:37):
Now?
Speaker 5 (12:37):
He's an American hero, kid's car.
Speaker 4 (12:40):
My dad's an American hero re escalated hero.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
Trouh Yes he was, my dad wasn't g I Joe?
Speaker 3 (12:50):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (12:51):
You could you Actually my dad was g I Joe.
When you could shave him the g I Joe you
could actually shave.
Speaker 5 (12:57):
Do they just have him?
Speaker 2 (13:02):
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Speaker 7 (13:12):
And Hermond the writing deals to the plate, swung on,
grab all a third, Donaldson's up with it?
Speaker 2 (13:18):
He grows the first.
Speaker 7 (13:19):
To Mingle, Herman has pitched a perfect game for the
fourth time in the history of the New York Yankees.
Speaker 5 (13:32):
Perfection attained.
Speaker 4 (13:36):
Hermon being mobbed.
Speaker 7 (13:38):
At home plate by a fool Yankee dugout coming out
to congratulate the thirty year old from the Dominican Republic
on at chilly night.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
In Oakland, California.
Speaker 7 (13:50):
To Mingle, Herman has lossed the twenty fourth perfect game
in major league history.
Speaker 3 (13:57):
Wow, right there, Someone said, Wait a minute, that's not Johnson,
that's not Michael Kay.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
Wait a minute, Yankees Radio Network on the call, Yes, history,
twenty four perfect games now in Major League Baseball history
is Domingo Herman pitches it earlier tonight against the A's
ninety nine pitches for a perfect game for him and shocking.
You know, look, Michael Kay and John Sterling both have
big national profiles. Neither of them on the call for
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the Yankees tonight. These are those games where I think,
if you're an athlete, sometimes you go back and you
think about games.
Speaker 3 (14:32):
You go, oh, man, I'm gonna think about that game.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
I really wish I actually did something different in that game,
or I wish that's the game. I want to be different.
I want to come out differently. That's the one game
gonna think about, you know, every day throughout the rest
of my life. I wonder if you like that for
announcers going, oh man, that's the game I want to
have back. That's the game I want to have been
able to have been called. I can't believe it didn't
get to call that one perfect game. John Sterling is going,
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I'm never gonna get to do that again. Oh come
on man, No, but Michael Kay on radio, I've never
to get to do that.
Speaker 3 (15:01):
I think about that day all the time.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
What do you think about it as an announcment, Man,
I go back to that day.
Speaker 3 (15:05):
I would do that game for sure. I go out
and do that Yankee A's game one.
Speaker 4 (15:09):
So is that Ryan uh Ryan Rucou had the call
like this network. Yeah. Yeah, So you know we talk
about splitting time, talking about getting your reps and and
I firmly believe that. Yeah, we all have that, right,
You and I take days off and and you know
it's a memory of a cornerback and you move on.
But how many times have you taken a day off
and all of a sudden there's a story you're like, oh, man,
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or something happens while you're on vacation, and you know
you had a great and you would with the bermanisms
or or whatever angle you would have gone to, or
something I would have gone to, and you don't get
to do it because you're off for a few days
other than some Twitter stuff and I guess now you
shoot your videos or whatever. But it's not the same
as being on the big signal, being on AM five
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seven E LA Sports and Los Angeles and all of
our affiliates nationwide and of course the iHeartRadio app. See
we can be heard everywhere.
Speaker 3 (16:00):
But it's the.
Speaker 4 (16:00):
Point of if I'm not on and someone's in my stead,
then I have that that fomo absolutely. You know, I'm
sure that these guys do too, despite all the great
things they've called.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
I mean, I really I have to think that that's
how it goes for people in the media. I wish
I was on for that, I mean for you and
I'd be having a night off. It's a it's a
it's a night where we.
Speaker 3 (16:23):
Didn't get to talk about a big story.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
Okay, you know we get a lot of big stories,
and you know, look every night it's a big night, right,
something happens. And yeah, but this is a night for
a play by play guy. It's almost like you're you're
you're a ballplayer. Yeah, I call this game, and I
call this This game was fun. This game was pretty cool.
I thought I had a good show here. I had
a good game here. I told some good stories in
this game. But boy, I could have called a no hitter.
I could have called a perfect game.
Speaker 3 (16:45):
Chance to do it.
Speaker 4 (16:45):
I didn't mean twenty four in Major League Baseball history, man,
and we're rarefied air. We talk about different a we're
going down the list of all time hit leaders and
you know, wins leader, on the pitch, all these different
statistical categories, single season home runs, whatever the case may be,
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and how important those are. And then you have an
event like this that's just so rare. You could have
had how many references to possums in attendance? I mean, oh,
the vermin in attendance, the Birds that are circling around,
but because he's dealing and he's only thrown ninety nine
pitches that the game ended early, so the Birds hadn't
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even descended on, you know, the remnants of the few
fans that they'd left behind from their their meals. I
mean all of that stuff. I mean it's a it's
really a great opportunity for storytelling and they and they
didn't get to do it. So yeah, they'll be mad.
Speaker 5 (17:42):
Jason.
Speaker 6 (17:42):
It's like that one time where Kobe dropped eighty one
on the Raptors and Joel Myers wasn't even there to
call it stepped in.
Speaker 3 (17:49):
Yeah, Billy Mack did that right, Yeah, that's why I
missed that.
Speaker 6 (17:52):
It was his resume here, I called Kobe's eighty one
point game, and now he's.
Speaker 3 (17:56):
The Lakers played by play guy.
Speaker 5 (17:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (18:00):
Man, sometimes it's just that wo man one time, the
ass in seat. So I don't like taking days off.
I mean you need them. You need to recharge, refresh,
and you know, opportunities, family stuff and whatever come up.
But man, you know, there's there's almost no better time
than the four hours yelling at you idiots.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
Oh man, I'll tell you, uh.
Speaker 4 (18:22):
You idiots, Ty Scher, can you respond in John Wick
form to make the uh, the threat a little more palpable?
Speaker 7 (18:32):
Uh?
Speaker 5 (18:32):
What an idiot?
Speaker 1 (18:35):
See that's a really good Keanu Reeves man, you hurt.
I don't know if anybody has a good Kean of
Reeves type. You could corner the market on that.
Speaker 5 (18:43):
I think I'll just start to work on this a
little bit more, Jane, I think.
Speaker 3 (18:46):
That's really good man.
Speaker 4 (18:47):
See, we're we we're a family. We offer encouragement and support,
but we're also honest enough to tell you when you're
an idiot.
Speaker 5 (18:58):
Well I'm the one, you.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
Know, a quick story about this before we get to
the other. The other perfect games is that one of
my friends is Steve Schlanger, and he came on with
a couple years ago.
Speaker 3 (19:09):
He's a he's an Olympic correspondent now for NBC.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
He was just out here doing the US Open a
couple of weeks ago, and you know, he moved to
Saint Louis and he and I talk all the time,
and we we text a lot and everything. We were
gonna get together when he came to LA, but it
just didn't work out the timing wise. He was the
Cardinals fill in radio play by play guy. Okay, this
I'm going back there. He's he was the Cardinals fill
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in radio play by play guy. I want to say
when Mark McGuire was going for six for his sixty
foot on the big home run, going back to nineteen
ninety eight, Okay, yeah, uh, and he was on the
call and he would do like just games that Jack
Buck didn't go to or wasn't contracted to go to,
Like Jack Buck was gonna do these games, and then
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Steve was gonna do these games on the road, right
like Jack Buck would do of a four game series,
he would do the first two games and then he
wouldn't do the last two because he would leave to
fly to the next city whatever it was.
Speaker 3 (20:07):
So he did.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
Steve was doing like a handful of games, you like,
I want to say, like maybe twenty five games. And
there was a big thing that when he was going
for the record. I want to say, I got this right,
is that when he was going for the record, people
were talking about in Saint Louis that, hey, if if
this happens on a night where Steve Schlanger's doing the broadcast,
he needs to step aside and let Jack Buck make
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that call right like, and it's the whole thing people
are talking about it. So and we talked about it.
He was able to just laugh it off and there it.
So for like the next ten years, I would say, hey, listen,
I think it's time that you step aside and let
me do this, right Ah. Very funny, very funny.
Speaker 3 (20:42):
Like I ratted that lock with him like so many times.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
And I asked him, I said, did you think because
he wasn't he didn't wind up being on the call
obviously Jack Buck touch him all mark you history, And
I said, was it a big deal for you?
Speaker 3 (20:52):
And he was like, eh, you know, if I got
to do it, I got to do it.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
But it's not like I missed a chance, not like
it was a missed opportunity or anything. So you know,
it's all like I did the game before. It's not
like did the game before it and he didn't do
what he did in the next game. He was like, yeah,
if it happened, had happened. And he was able to
brush it off and say, hey, you know, just just
wasn't meant to be for me, and that and that's
something that you know, so he's never really spent a
lot of time thinking about it, talking about it. It's
just a ribbing thing that he and I go back
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and forth with, but like, look, he had that chance.
He was like, yeah, okay, it just wasn't my thing.
You know, it wasn't my thing. And that gets me
to the perfect games that we didn't see that now
are going to be brought up in the wake of this,
and that's our Mondol Galarraga and Clayton Kershaw, right, And
there's a difference between these two because we've talked about
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these games as perfect games we thought we should have seen.
Right now, think about you know, Steve, you know my
friend say, hey, I never thought I missed the opportunity
to throw a to call Mark maguire sixty second home run.
Speaker 3 (21:49):
I didn't get that opportunity. And when you think.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
About gal Raga, Gala Raga is a shame because Jim
Joyce blew the call.
Speaker 3 (21:57):
But what are you gonna do.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
There's nothing you could do right there because the umpire
blew the call. There's nothing that happened, there's nothing that
you didn't do right, there's nothing you did wrong. It
was something that was completely beyond your control. So can
Galaraga really say, oh hey, man, that's you know, that's
a you know, that's a no. It wasn't his fault, right,
It's not like something happened. He gave up a hit
and I didn't get there. You know, Jim Joyce blew
the call, and he admits it. Right, the guys did.
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They did promotional tours for years, and Jim Joyce kept
having to go on DVCO. I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I
blew it, and Golli Rog kept saying, I know it's
all good, it's all good.
Speaker 3 (22:28):
I'm sorry. I'm so sorry. Yes, I get it, I
get it.
Speaker 1 (22:30):
So I don't see that as a missed opportunity more
than I see last April with Clayton Kershaw and the Twins.
Speaker 3 (22:39):
Right.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
I know it was mid April, and I get that
the season was only a couple of weeks old, and
but come on, man, Kershaw seven innings, thirteen strikeouts, eighty pitches.
He was motoring through the Twins. They weren't touching him.
It's one thing to throw a no hitter. It's quite
another thing to throw a he's got his no hitter.
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It's quite another thing to throw a perfect game. And
they all said the same things after they are on
the same page. Dave Roberts says, oh, we talked about
it before the game. Clayton said, I think I can
go maybe eighty five pitches, and Clayton Kershaw said, oh, yeah, no, no,
that was the right call. I needed to come out
of the game. Who knows, But here I am a
year later, going, that's a perfect game.
Speaker 3 (23:19):
We should have seen.
Speaker 1 (23:20):
And I get that they were saying the right things,
but I guarantee you as time goes on. For Clayton Kershaw,
it's why didn't I stated, Why didn't I say I
want to stay in the game.
Speaker 3 (23:28):
What was I doing? Was I really gonna Was I
really going to ruin my arm?
Speaker 1 (23:33):
I had thrown eighty pitches that if I threw a hit,
if I gave it a hit, I was done. It was
out of the game. Was seven nothing. The Dodgers were
killing the Twins. But how do you not stay in again?
Eighty pitches, not ninety, not ninety five pitches, not one
hundred and five pitches. Eighty pitches and I'm coming out, Oh,
We're going to be smart, We're gonna be safe. It's
about winning. That's what Kershaw said after it's about winning.
Speaker 3 (23:51):
Now.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
I don't know if he's really telling the truth or
if Tim saying I don't want to cause problems because
Kershaw's always been a really good team first guy. But
I guarantee you every day and tomorrow he's gonna wake
up and go, why didn't I say I wanted to
stay in that game? And why didn't Dave Roberts leave
him in eighty pitches? At least give him the eighth
and see where he's at right and at least say, okay,
well you know what, Hey, he needs needed seven pitches
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to get through the eighth perfect game. This is like
all time, your name forever. I mean, this is this
is the biggest exclamation point on a sure fire first
ballot Hall of Fame career. This is something only a
handful of guys have done, and you arguably might have
been the best pitcher to ever do it, and you
don't get a chance. And that's the one I go
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back to, going, that's the perfect game. We should have saw.
Goll Rago is a bad call, nothing to do. It
was said all for the guy, But that's like, there's
more time that goes on. I'm like I'm like, what
the hell, man, I mean, how bad does that call look?
You know in retrospect now? Or you're let eighty pitches?
Well's still the middle of April. I mean, the guy
could throw eight, the guy could throw ninety pitches. Right,
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what they can do. He's been pitching a long time.
He knows what means to get his arm ready. He
really couldn't go back out there and do it. And again,
I don't know who's protecting who or if they say
the right thing, but I guarantee you Kerschel every day
is saying, Man, if I going out, that could have
a perfect game. Six more outs in Minnesota. That's all
I needed. Six more outs in Minnesota. That's all I need.
That could have a perfect game.
Speaker 4 (25:14):
Old rule of thumb, going back to my mom and
the way I heard this a million times, save it
for good. Right, you can't pitch him now, could get
hurt young pitchers. Right, we can't trust him to throw
an extra ten pitches. We don't know, Right, the Dodgers
are gonna have that decision with Bobby Miller as the
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season goes on. How many innings are you gonna let
him pitch? Especially if the you know, the reserves don't
come back, right, all those pitchers that have been on
the IL, et cetera. But for Clayton Kershaw, stee, what
do you give a man who already has everything an
opportunity for a little bit more and baseball immortality? And
that's something we wait a minute that, wait a minute,
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give you mister Burns line. Go ahead, give you mister
Burns line. And you know you're a billionaire and blah
blah blah. It's like yes, and I trade it all
for a little more, yes, and where it works out, well,
I tried to just you know, sidestep into that. Now
here's here's some fun facts. The Kershaw one always sticks
right because we're we broadcast and live in the greater
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Los Angeles area. The angst for that is still there,
and folks try to rationalize it. Just say no, no, no,
we need Kershaw for the long haul if we're going
to compete and blah, And you know it's you've taken
the you know, say your prayers and eat your vitamins
and all that. The whole Dominia thing. That's the mantra.
I've got to stay with it. That's the philosophy. I've
got to buy, and now you don't have to buy
into the team philosophy. Give the kid a chance, right.
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We watched Emmett a couple of weeks ago. It's like,
come on, the arm flies off into the second deck,
so be it. But in science has shown me that
hasn't happened yet. But here's your data point looking up
the history here, quick search of the webs. Eight pictures
of law a perfect game in the ninth inning, going
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back twenty thirteen to present.
Speaker 5 (27:05):
I don't know how many of them are Dave Roberts
responsible for.
Speaker 4 (27:10):
I don't have a full history, but my favorite one least,
hey you well, there you go, not two, not three
goes back to twenty fifteen. Washington is six nothing win
over Pittsburgh when Max Scherzer took his perfect game to
the ninth Polonco filed out to third, Mercer line out
or Mercelle lined out to center. Jose Tibata hit by pitch.
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Harrison flies out to left, two outs hit by pitch
man so close.
Speaker 1 (27:43):
I do actually have that stat you were looking for here,
curse a Frostby. I got it right here, Dave Roberts
for his career, I.
Speaker 5 (27:51):
Got your stat right here too.
Speaker 1 (27:53):
Dave Roberts, for his career, has now removed fourteen pitchers
with a no hitter in the seventh inning or later.
Speaker 3 (27:58):
So there you go.
Speaker 5 (27:59):
FO, Kim be real, is it really fourteen?
Speaker 4 (28:01):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (28:01):
Fourteen pictures? I got it right here?
Speaker 1 (28:04):
Hang on, Kofax, Sutton, Royce, Brad Penny. Let's play the
seventh inning game.
Speaker 5 (28:14):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (28:15):
You know what favorite part of that was? Frostburg. I
was like, wow, is it fourteen?
Speaker 1 (28:19):
Is there?
Speaker 4 (28:19):
Is it really that many?
Speaker 3 (28:21):
Was?
Speaker 5 (28:21):
I thought him a higher?
Speaker 3 (28:22):
So I had to check is it really that? He's
like I would have had me over, but sure.
Speaker 5 (28:28):
I thought it was thirty seven.
Speaker 3 (28:29):
He took it thirty seven. Shuck, I said fourteen.
Speaker 1 (28:34):
I mean really, it's been like five I think. But
forre wow, is it fourteen?
Speaker 5 (28:38):
You sure that's cost nomo at least six O?
Speaker 3 (28:41):
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Yankee shut out the A's eleven nothing, twenty seven up,
twenty seven down. A great play or a really pressure
filled play by Josh Donaldson to end it, and you know,
we got into it a little bit a few minutes ago, Mike.
But boy, you just you just really think about could
this season get any.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
Worse for the A's.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
I mean, just you think all this season nobody goes
to the games. They finally have one night where they
do the reverse boycott, and the next day Vegas puts
through money for the new ballpark, and you know, the
A's are leaving. It could be one more lame duck
year before they wind up going to Vegas. And here
in the middle of smack deb in the middle of
the season, it's a perfect game now to no hitter
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a perfect game. It's it's like, I don't know that
you can I think you're at rock bottom. I don't
know that you can dig any lower if you're the
A's after having this happen.
Speaker 4 (01:50):
I think for this one, Jason, this is this is
just you know, icing on the proverbial cake, the celebration
of what was once great Oakland A's baseball, what.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
Was once great and what could be again.
Speaker 3 (02:02):
You know what, I don't know I'm gonna do it
for it.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
It's not gonna be great in Oakland again. I'm pretty
sure about not in Oakland. And that's not happening. And
you know, We've talked about it. You don't have population
all the different reasons why you would get to this point.
You know, it really just comes down to how many
Brinks trucks, Uh take your stuff to Vegas. But when
when it's all said and done here, I think, well,
(02:28):
let me divert before I continue on the baseball site,
Uh with the A's. I'm gonna say, you're now obsessed
with this Yankees milestone because you get away from talking
about that horrible optic of your owner having to basically
say we suck oh and sitting behind that that table.
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So yeah, the A's. This is just another there's another blip. Man, Like,
at this point, what else do you got? You had
a possum in the freaking broadcast booth. That what made
more noise than anything else going on. You have tonight
two legends in our profession, right, the larger sports broadcast media,
(03:10):
John Sterling and Michael k They think so little of you.
When they decided which road trips they were gonna take,
you weren't on it at all. Again, maybe afraid of possums,
I'm not sure. But when it comes down to like you've.
Speaker 4 (03:26):
Got all of these different pieces, you look at the payrolls,
you look at all of these different data points along
the way. This is just another one of them, and
you just shake your head and go, yeah, it's the Beatles.
It's getting better all the time. Why it can't get
much worse.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
It's so it's so difficult because I, you know, because
I think about the A's and here's the thing, and
this is why I'm so happy for teams like the
Reds and the Orioles who.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
Were winning this year and they're doing well.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
Look that Red's Oriole series, a great series, you know,
highly ten. People are talking about a lot. Well, it's
the good and the bad, right, You're happy for the fans.
Speaker 4 (04:02):
You're happy that somewhere in the talent evaluation something has
clicked and things are are you know, the ship is writing.
But you have the same ownership groups who have been
well terrible for a long time.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
But you know, the thing is is that you know,
you and I are both about the same age, and
you and you and I grew up watching the same
teams excel. In the late seventies early eighties, the best
teams in baseball were the Reds and the Orioles.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
Right, the A's and doers. The Dodgers were.
Speaker 4 (04:35):
The Dodgers were great Dodgers, never really, I mean.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
Right, Dodge Dodge were terrific. Hey, look, late seventies, early eighties,
Dodgers were always in, never really.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
Took any time off. You know.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
Dodge went, they went, they won to get an eighty
eight went. And the Angels, right, they were all the
best teams in Major League Baseball. And this was a
great era for them because those are always the best teams.
And I grew up the Big Red Machine, and how
good those Angels teams were in the late seventies early eighties,
and and and guys like Carnie Lanford and Brian Downing
winning a batting title. And then you go to the
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Orioles with all their starting pitchers and Palmer and McGregor
and and how good they were. And you go to
and then you know, you hit the uh, you hit
the A's who are coming off of winning. But then
Billy Ball shows up, and it's Ricky Henderson and here
come the A's suddenly and Dwayne Murphy and they're winning
a lot of games, and they have a great starting
pitching staff and Billy Martin threw everybody. You know, eight
innings every single game, Mike Norris, all those guys, and
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it was great and it was a great time. And
I don't know if it's just because it makes me
think back to when I was young, coming up and
and and and being a baseball fan, but you know,
seeing things like the A's being so bad, it's kind
of sad. And seeing this bad, I mean, just this
bad for the A's is really sad for all of
these teams. So I kind of liked that for the
most part, all the teams of my youth are being
(05:51):
good again because it's kind of fun.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
But at the same time, now I look.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
At the A's, I go, man, they're just getting it
for everybody, Like like they were listen, We're just gonna
take the l's for everybody, L after L after L
all the way through.
Speaker 4 (06:02):
No, the Mets and the Padres and a few other
teams are right there with them. They're the worst of it.
Them and the Royals on's great as well, even recently
when they beat the Mets.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
Don't forget your White Sox, don't forget your.
Speaker 4 (06:19):
Well no, no, no, no no, I mean that just
goes without saying. I know who's who knows me, has
watched me die a little bit most August into September.
I'm not quite your Mets to Jets thing, but but
it's pretty darn close sometimes. But it's the the idea
with the the cyclicality of things, and that's normally out
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we run where it's all right down for a few years,
but strong organizations bounce back right the In the NFL,
all right, the Ravens have a bad year or two,
maybe some of the talent evaluation doesn't work. You get
hit with a really inordinate number of of injuries, and
you expect, you know, the to come back because you
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plan and you build your roster the right way. Baseball
takes a lot to go right all the way through
the minor leagues money flow, and that's certainly something the
A's haven't had. We talk about the attendance again, because
it is one of the parts that you have to
keep underlying, underlining on your text here, because you're you're
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talking about a place that is only five hundred thousand,
Big So and San Francisco has their own team, so
they're not coming across the bridge to watch it except
for three games or two games or however long the
series is in a given year, and so for the A's,
I mean, you're hoping traveling fans come through, Yankee fans,
(07:44):
folks that want to see Otani the few times he's
in with the Angels and all, but otherwise you're not
drawn from a huge base, which is why they're attendance
is under two million pretty much for the last twenty years. So,
you know, like the than O snap inevitable talk about
the cash considerations and where the game is going. Look
at the cost of franchises across the major sports when
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they move and help look at the transfer fees when
major talents move in the world of soccer, as we've
been tracking these last couple of days. So yeah, it's
good to see, you know, some of these other teams
where we get to chronicle some of the history and
show some of the legends. We got George Foster into
the show Concepcion. For the A's, we think of Carney Lansford,
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we think of Bill North, we think of Ricky Henderson
and all the legends, the pitchers that weren't mentioned in
Moneyball and all those things that you come through, and
it's you know, it's a rich tapestry of the history.
But you know, sometimes folks get you know, you got
to change the rules of engagement X size. Things are
(08:53):
really changed. Things out to hopefully regrow. Right, you rip
out your garden so it can bloom better the next year.
Ye what I did there?
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Speaker 4 (09:10):
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Speaker 3 (09:20):
Jason, Yeah, what you got Frostburg.
Speaker 6 (09:21):
The big story coming out of this one is how
many people in New York actually know this happened?
Speaker 1 (09:25):
Oh, I you know, I texted my dad and Fox
slapping my dad.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
I mean my dad's gonna yeah he has Neither of
them got back to me.
Speaker 4 (09:32):
I gotta say, Walter has been really disappointing this season.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
Yeah, he has been. Yeah, my dad's had a bad year. Yeah,
my dad, my dad. Yeah, I don't want to rip.
Speaker 4 (09:41):
Him if he's having issue. But but my normal vault
and this sucks you.
Speaker 3 (09:45):
No, no, no, my dad is fine.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
But like if you're talking with my dad, like being
around to be on the radio when things like this happened.
He's had a bad year. He's it in one ninety
seven and his power numbers are terrible. Like that, that's
my day. He's having a bad year that way.
Speaker 4 (09:57):
I mean, the greatest ability is of availability. I know
you're not even getting snarky responses or you and your
Mets or any I'll tell you know, and I'll tell
you I don't have time for this.
Speaker 3 (10:11):
Here's the worst part for me, right, here's the worst part,
now you know.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
Here's the worst part is that you know and I
just got I got to this part and I just want.
Speaker 3 (10:18):
To just I want to pull the skin off my forehead.
Is that nothing? Of course, it has.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
To happen on a day where the Mets have a
panicked press conference with the owner who says I'll trade
everybody if things don't get better. Things are terrible right now,
we're eighteen games out. It makes no difference. It's on
the players. The players are underperforming all the bad things.
He's right, But here's your owner having a press conference
(10:45):
saying my team stinks and I'll trade everybody, which no
other owners have, and that leads into yet another Mets
loss where they were kind of listless and couldn't score
any runs.
Speaker 3 (10:55):
So of course that's not enough. That's not enough for
me for one day.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
No, no, the night has to end with the Yankees
having a perfect game that night, and we have to
talk about it like that. So just just think about that.
Nothing gives you a bigger reality check reminding you where
you are in the pecking order of things. And we
had this ridiculous press conference during the day where the
owner's got to stand up and say things, and the
Mets go on to lose. No, no, no, Hey, what about
the Yankees all a perfect game where the game that
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night awesome. Yes, nothing reminds me more of that. It's
just that's just bleeping depressing me.
Speaker 4 (11:27):
I just think a week ago Steinbredder was crying because
the fans were mad at him. You know. Part of
the touching story for Jamon is he just lost an uncle.
So that was part of the process as he was
getting ready for this game the last couple of days
and building into this. But it's another Yankee milestone, fourth
(11:47):
perfect game of all time. Now that's one more than
the White Sox. And so you have this opportunity to,
you know, juxtapose things against the futility of the Mets.
And and as much as this is a big story,
I mean an owner going and you know, throwing his
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hands up in the air despite spending a lot of money,
that's still a huge story. And I really do think
we need to hear and talk about it.
Speaker 5 (12:13):
Jason, I know how you could get payback?
Speaker 3 (12:16):
How can I get payback?
Speaker 6 (12:17):
You tweet out the Yankees won the World Series tonight.
People are gonna wake up in New York reading your
tweet thinking they won the World Series.
Speaker 4 (12:26):
I really thought you were just gonna say, go Key
Waltz car.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
No, come on, I'm not going to do that. Come on, Well,
why are you getting a wagon so violent about that?
Speaker 4 (12:37):
Now?
Speaker 5 (12:37):
He's an American hero, kid's car.
Speaker 4 (12:40):
My dad's an American hero re escalated hero.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
Trouh Yes he was, my dad wasn't g I Joe?
Speaker 3 (12:50):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (12:51):
You could you Actually my dad was g I Joe.
When you could shave him the g I Joe you
could actually shave.
Speaker 5 (12:57):
Do they just have him?
Speaker 2 (13:02):
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Speaker 7 (13:12):
And Hermond the writing deals to the plate, swung on,
grab all a third, Donaldson's up with it?
Speaker 2 (13:18):
He grows the first.
Speaker 7 (13:19):
To Mingle, Herman has pitched a perfect game for the
fourth time in the history of the New York Yankees.
Speaker 5 (13:32):
Perfection attained.
Speaker 4 (13:36):
Hermon being mobbed.
Speaker 7 (13:38):
At home plate by a fool Yankee dugout coming out
to congratulate the thirty year old from the Dominican Republic
on at chilly night.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
In Oakland, California.
Speaker 7 (13:50):
To Mingle, Herman has lossed the twenty fourth perfect game
in major league history.
Speaker 3 (13:57):
Wow, right there, Someone said, Wait a minute, that's not Johnson,
that's not Michael Kay.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
Wait a minute, Yankees Radio Network on the call, Yes, history,
twenty four perfect games now in Major League Baseball history
is Domingo Herman pitches it earlier tonight against the A's
ninety nine pitches for a perfect game for him and shocking.
You know, look, Michael Kay and John Sterling both have
big national profiles. Neither of them on the call for
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the Yankees tonight. These are those games where I think,
if you're an athlete, sometimes you go back and you
think about games.
Speaker 3 (14:32):
You go, oh, man, I'm gonna think about that game.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
I really wish I actually did something different in that game,
or I wish that's the game. I want to be different.
I want to come out differently. That's the one game
gonna think about, you know, every day throughout the rest
of my life. I wonder if you like that for
announcers going, oh man, that's the game I want to
have back. That's the game I want to have been
able to have been called. I can't believe it didn't
get to call that one perfect game. John Sterling is going,
(14:54):
I'm never gonna get to do that again. Oh come
on man, No, but Michael Kay on radio, I've never
to get to do that.
Speaker 3 (15:01):
I think about that day all the time.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
What do you think about it as an announcment, Man,
I go back to that day.
Speaker 3 (15:05):
I would do that game for sure. I go out
and do that Yankee A's game one.
Speaker 4 (15:09):
So is that Ryan uh Ryan Rucou had the call
like this network. Yeah. Yeah, So you know we talk
about splitting time, talking about getting your reps and and
I firmly believe that. Yeah, we all have that, right,
You and I take days off and and you know
it's a memory of a cornerback and you move on.
But how many times have you taken a day off
and all of a sudden there's a story you're like, oh, man,
(15:31):
or something happens while you're on vacation, and you know
you had a great and you would with the bermanisms
or or whatever angle you would have gone to, or
something I would have gone to, and you don't get
to do it because you're off for a few days
other than some Twitter stuff and I guess now you
shoot your videos or whatever. But it's not the same
as being on the big signal, being on AM five
(15:52):
seven E LA Sports and Los Angeles and all of
our affiliates nationwide and of course the iHeartRadio app. See
we can be heard everywhere.
Speaker 3 (16:00):
But it's the.
Speaker 4 (16:00):
Point of if I'm not on and someone's in my stead,
then I have that that fomo absolutely. You know, I'm
sure that these guys do too, despite all the great
things they've called.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
I mean, I really I have to think that that's
how it goes for people in the media. I wish
I was on for that, I mean for you and
I'd be having a night off. It's a it's a
it's a night where we.
Speaker 3 (16:23):
Didn't get to talk about a big story.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
Okay, you know we get a lot of big stories,
and you know, look every night it's a big night, right,
something happens. And yeah, but this is a night for
a play by play guy. It's almost like you're you're
you're a ballplayer. Yeah, I call this game, and I
call this This game was fun. This game was pretty cool.
I thought I had a good show here. I had
a good game here. I told some good stories in
this game. But boy, I could have called a no hitter.
I could have called a perfect game.
Speaker 3 (16:45):
Chance to do it.
Speaker 4 (16:45):
I didn't mean twenty four in Major League Baseball history, man,
and we're rarefied air. We talk about different a we're
going down the list of all time hit leaders and
you know, wins leader, on the pitch, all these different
statistical categories, single season home runs, whatever the case may be,
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and how important those are. And then you have an
event like this that's just so rare. You could have
had how many references to possums in attendance? I mean, oh,
the vermin in attendance, the Birds that are circling around,
but because he's dealing and he's only thrown ninety nine
pitches that the game ended early, so the Birds hadn't
(17:27):
even descended on, you know, the remnants of the few
fans that they'd left behind from their their meals. I
mean all of that stuff. I mean it's a it's
really a great opportunity for storytelling and they and they
didn't get to do it. So yeah, they'll be mad.
Speaker 5 (17:42):
Jason.
Speaker 6 (17:42):
It's like that one time where Kobe dropped eighty one
on the Raptors and Joel Myers wasn't even there to
call it stepped in.
Speaker 3 (17:49):
Yeah, Billy Mack did that right, Yeah, that's why I
missed that.
Speaker 6 (17:52):
It was his resume here, I called Kobe's eighty one
point game, and now he's.
Speaker 3 (17:56):
The Lakers played by play guy.
Speaker 5 (17:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (18:00):
Man, sometimes it's just that wo man one time, the
ass in seat. So I don't like taking days off.
I mean you need them. You need to recharge, refresh,
and you know, opportunities, family stuff and whatever come up.
But man, you know, there's there's almost no better time
than the four hours yelling at you idiots.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
Oh man, I'll tell you, uh.
Speaker 4 (18:22):
You idiots, Ty Scher, can you respond in John Wick
form to make the uh, the threat a little more palpable?
Speaker 7 (18:32):
Uh?
Speaker 5 (18:32):
What an idiot?
Speaker 1 (18:35):
See that's a really good Keanu Reeves man, you hurt.
I don't know if anybody has a good Kean of
Reeves type. You could corner the market on that.
Speaker 5 (18:43):
I think I'll just start to work on this a
little bit more, Jane, I think.
Speaker 3 (18:46):
That's really good man.
Speaker 4 (18:47):
See, we're we we're a family. We offer encouragement and support,
but we're also honest enough to tell you when you're
an idiot.
Speaker 5 (18:58):
Well I'm the one, you.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
Know, a quick story about this before we get to
the other. The other perfect games is that one of
my friends is Steve Schlanger, and he came on with
a couple years ago.
Speaker 3 (19:09):
He's a he's an Olympic correspondent now for NBC.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
He was just out here doing the US Open a
couple of weeks ago, and you know, he moved to
Saint Louis and he and I talk all the time,
and we we text a lot and everything. We were
gonna get together when he came to LA, but it
just didn't work out the timing wise. He was the
Cardinals fill in radio play by play guy. Okay, this
I'm going back there. He's he was the Cardinals fill
(19:35):
in radio play by play guy. I want to say
when Mark McGuire was going for six for his sixty
foot on the big home run, going back to nineteen
ninety eight, Okay, yeah, uh, and he was on the
call and he would do like just games that Jack
Buck didn't go to or wasn't contracted to go to,
Like Jack Buck was gonna do these games, and then
(19:56):
Steve was gonna do these games on the road, right
like Jack Buck would do of a four game series,
he would do the first two games and then he
wouldn't do the last two because he would leave to
fly to the next city whatever it was.
Speaker 3 (20:07):
So he did.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
Steve was doing like a handful of games, you like,
I want to say, like maybe twenty five games. And
there was a big thing that when he was going
for the record. I want to say, I got this right,
is that when he was going for the record, people
were talking about in Saint Louis that, hey, if if
this happens on a night where Steve Schlanger's doing the broadcast,
he needs to step aside and let Jack Buck make
(20:28):
that call right like, and it's the whole thing people
are talking about it. So and we talked about it.
He was able to just laugh it off and there it.
So for like the next ten years, I would say, hey, listen,
I think it's time that you step aside and let
me do this, right Ah. Very funny, very funny.
Speaker 3 (20:42):
Like I ratted that lock with him like so many times.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
And I asked him, I said, did you think because
he wasn't he didn't wind up being on the call
obviously Jack Buck touch him all mark you history, And
I said, was it a big deal for you?
Speaker 3 (20:52):
And he was like, eh, you know, if I got
to do it, I got to do it.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
But it's not like I missed a chance, not like
it was a missed opportunity or anything. So you know,
it's all like I did the game before. It's not
like did the game before it and he didn't do
what he did in the next game. He was like, yeah,
if it happened, had happened. And he was able to
brush it off and say, hey, you know, just just
wasn't meant to be for me, and that and that's
something that you know, so he's never really spent a
lot of time thinking about it, talking about it. It's
just a ribbing thing that he and I go back
(21:15):
and forth with, but like, look, he had that chance.
He was like, yeah, okay, it just wasn't my thing.
You know, it wasn't my thing. And that gets me
to the perfect games that we didn't see that now
are going to be brought up in the wake of this,
and that's our Mondol Galarraga and Clayton Kershaw, right, And
there's a difference between these two because we've talked about
(21:36):
these games as perfect games we thought we should have seen.
Right now, think about you know, Steve, you know my
friend say, hey, I never thought I missed the opportunity
to throw a to call Mark maguire sixty second home run.
Speaker 3 (21:49):
I didn't get that opportunity. And when you think.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
About gal Raga, Gala Raga is a shame because Jim
Joyce blew the call.
Speaker 3 (21:57):
But what are you gonna do.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
There's nothing you could do right there because the umpire
blew the call. There's nothing that happened, there's nothing that
you didn't do right, there's nothing you did wrong. It
was something that was completely beyond your control. So can
Galaraga really say, oh hey, man, that's you know, that's
a you know, that's a no. It wasn't his fault, right,
It's not like something happened. He gave up a hit
and I didn't get there. You know, Jim Joyce blew
the call, and he admits it. Right, the guys did.
(22:20):
They did promotional tours for years, and Jim Joyce kept
having to go on DVCO. I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I
blew it, and Golli Rog kept saying, I know it's
all good, it's all good.
Speaker 3 (22:28):
I'm sorry. I'm so sorry. Yes, I get it, I
get it.
Speaker 1 (22:30):
So I don't see that as a missed opportunity more
than I see last April with Clayton Kershaw and the Twins.
Speaker 3 (22:39):
Right.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
I know it was mid April, and I get that
the season was only a couple of weeks old, and
but come on, man, Kershaw seven innings, thirteen strikeouts, eighty pitches.
He was motoring through the Twins. They weren't touching him.
It's one thing to throw a no hitter. It's quite
another thing to throw a he's got his no hitter.
(23:01):
It's quite another thing to throw a perfect game. And
they all said the same things after they are on
the same page. Dave Roberts says, oh, we talked about
it before the game. Clayton said, I think I can
go maybe eighty five pitches, and Clayton Kershaw said, oh, yeah, no, no,
that was the right call. I needed to come out
of the game. Who knows, But here I am a
year later, going, that's a perfect game.
Speaker 3 (23:19):
We should have seen.
Speaker 1 (23:20):
And I get that they were saying the right things,
but I guarantee you as time goes on. For Clayton Kershaw,
it's why didn't I stated, Why didn't I say I
want to stay in the game.
Speaker 3 (23:28):
What was I doing? Was I really gonna Was I
really going to ruin my arm?
Speaker 1 (23:33):
I had thrown eighty pitches that if I threw a hit,
if I gave it a hit, I was done. It was
out of the game. Was seven nothing. The Dodgers were
killing the Twins. But how do you not stay in again?
Eighty pitches, not ninety, not ninety five pitches, not one
hundred and five pitches. Eighty pitches and I'm coming out, Oh,
We're going to be smart, We're gonna be safe. It's
about winning. That's what Kershaw said after it's about winning.
Speaker 3 (23:51):
Now.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
I don't know if he's really telling the truth or
if Tim saying I don't want to cause problems because
Kershaw's always been a really good team first guy. But
I guarantee you every day and tomorrow he's gonna wake
up and go, why didn't I say I wanted to
stay in that game? And why didn't Dave Roberts leave
him in eighty pitches? At least give him the eighth
and see where he's at right and at least say, okay,
well you know what, Hey, he needs needed seven pitches
(24:12):
to get through the eighth perfect game. This is like
all time, your name forever. I mean, this is this
is the biggest exclamation point on a sure fire first
ballot Hall of Fame career. This is something only a
handful of guys have done, and you arguably might have
been the best pitcher to ever do it, and you
don't get a chance. And that's the one I go
(24:34):
back to, going, that's the perfect game. We should have saw.
Goll Rago is a bad call, nothing to do. It
was said all for the guy, But that's like, there's
more time that goes on. I'm like I'm like, what
the hell, man, I mean, how bad does that call look?
You know in retrospect now? Or you're let eighty pitches?
Well's still the middle of April. I mean, the guy
could throw eight, the guy could throw ninety pitches. Right,
(24:55):
what they can do. He's been pitching a long time.
He knows what means to get his arm ready. He
really couldn't go back out there and do it. And again,
I don't know who's protecting who or if they say
the right thing, but I guarantee you Kerschel every day
is saying, Man, if I going out, that could have
a perfect game. Six more outs in Minnesota. That's all
I needed. Six more outs in Minnesota. That's all I need.
That could have a perfect game.
Speaker 4 (25:14):
Old rule of thumb, going back to my mom and
the way I heard this a million times, save it
for good. Right, you can't pitch him now, could get
hurt young pitchers. Right, we can't trust him to throw
an extra ten pitches. We don't know, Right, the Dodgers
are gonna have that decision with Bobby Miller as the
(25:35):
season goes on. How many innings are you gonna let
him pitch? Especially if the you know, the reserves don't
come back, right, all those pitchers that have been on
the IL, et cetera. But for Clayton Kershaw, stee, what
do you give a man who already has everything an
opportunity for a little bit more and baseball immortality? And
that's something we wait a minute that, wait a minute,
(25:56):
give you mister Burns line. Go ahead, give you mister
Burns line. And you know you're a billionaire and blah
blah blah. It's like yes, and I trade it all
for a little more, yes, and where it works out, well,
I tried to just you know, sidestep into that. Now
here's here's some fun facts. The Kershaw one always sticks
right because we're we broadcast and live in the greater
(26:17):
Los Angeles area. The angst for that is still there,
and folks try to rationalize it. Just say no, no, no,
we need Kershaw for the long haul if we're going
to compete and blah, And you know it's you've taken
the you know, say your prayers and eat your vitamins
and all that. The whole Dominia thing. That's the mantra.
I've got to stay with it. That's the philosophy. I've
got to buy, and now you don't have to buy
into the team philosophy. Give the kid a chance, right.
(26:40):
We watched Emmett a couple of weeks ago. It's like,
come on, the arm flies off into the second deck,
so be it. But in science has shown me that
hasn't happened yet. But here's your data point looking up
the history here, quick search of the webs. Eight pictures
of law a perfect game in the ninth inning, going
(27:02):
back twenty thirteen to present.
Speaker 5 (27:05):
I don't know how many of them are Dave Roberts
responsible for.
Speaker 4 (27:10):
I don't have a full history, but my favorite one least,
hey you well, there you go, not two, not three
goes back to twenty fifteen. Washington is six nothing win
over Pittsburgh when Max Scherzer took his perfect game to
the ninth Polonco filed out to third, Mercer line out
or Mercelle lined out to center. Jose Tibata hit by pitch.
(27:33):
Harrison flies out to left, two outs hit by pitch
man so close.
Speaker 1 (27:43):
I do actually have that stat you were looking for here,
curse a Frostby. I got it right here, Dave Roberts
for his career, I.
Speaker 5 (27:51):
Got your stat right here too.
Speaker 1 (27:53):
Dave Roberts, for his career, has now removed fourteen pitchers
with a no hitter in the seventh inning or later.
Speaker 3 (27:58):
So there you go.
Speaker 5 (27:59):
FO, Kim be real, is it really fourteen?
Speaker 4 (28:01):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (28:01):
Fourteen pictures? I got it right here?
Speaker 1 (28:04):
Hang on, Kofax, Sutton, Royce, Brad Penny. Let's play the
seventh inning game.
Speaker 5 (28:14):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (28:15):
You know what favorite part of that was? Frostburg. I
was like, wow, is it fourteen?
Speaker 1 (28:19):
Is there?
Speaker 4 (28:19):
Is it really that many?
Speaker 3 (28:21):
Was?
Speaker 5 (28:21):
I thought him a higher?
Speaker 3 (28:22):
So I had to check is it really that? He's
like I would have had me over, but sure.
Speaker 5 (28:28):
I thought it was thirty seven.
Speaker 3 (28:29):
He took it thirty seven. Shuck, I said fourteen.
Speaker 1 (28:34):
I mean really, it's been like five I think. But
forre wow, is it fourteen?
Speaker 5 (28:38):
You sure that's cost nomo at least six O?
Speaker 3 (28:41):
And come on,
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