December 31, 2025 • 40 mins
Jason & Buck talk about the 2025 NFL coaching carousel and the candidates that could get hired and the process that keeps bad teams bad, Maxx Crosby speaks about being shut down by the Raiders, some “Would You Rathers”, and more!
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The more we talk about coaching, whether it's college football,
whether it's the NFL, whether it's any sport. The more
we talk about coaching, the more I keep asking myself
the same question, what's your value added? What do you
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actually bring to it? And oversimplification What I want from
my coaches? Are my coaches to be like chefs on
the TV show Chopped, open a basket of ingredients. Whatever
you got, make me the mother of all dishes. I
think the problem is more and more learning that most
coaches aren't great chefs. He's Buck Rising. I'm Jason Fitzworth
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filling in for the guys on Fox Sports Radio. Hear
me out like this for me said, thank you, thank
you so much. You know I get deeper. Is then
I goes one am on the East Coast and I'm
just I'm suddenly in my fields, you know.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
Deeper and delusion for sure.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Usually I'm this deep because I'm like three edibles in.
But I can't do that right now because I've still
got to work right, So I just got to get
a step ahead of it as the as the night
goes on. But for me, and this is this is
becoming clearer and clearer in the NFL too, Like start
asking yourself, what what is this guy's calling card or
girls calling card? And coach, what is the thing that
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this person does so well that it got him here?
Because Dominique Foxworth pointed out years ago to me and
and actually wrote an article on ESPN somewhere it was
like twenty sixteen. It's a great read about what they
need in the NFL as a coaching combine where you
could see all the coordinators have to do the things
that head coaches do, and owners could evaluate it the
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same way that we evaluate players. I've always thought about
that because, as you know, covering the Titans, it's such
a different job being an offensive coordinator and a head
coach the two. I cannot scream this loud enough. The
two are not related. They are not at all the same,
which is why Josh McDaniels can be a great offensive
coordinator and a terrible head coach. They're wildly different jobs.
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So when we see USC fail, I immediately think, Okay,
what is Lincoln Riley's calling card to this? When we
look at some of the teams that right now are
failing in the NFL, what does this coach bring to
the table, Like I need a head coach to be
so good at what they do throughout the entire process
that no matter what, I can look at it and say,
I understand the identity of this head coach. And that's
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why I understand the identity of this team. And once
you lose that, man, I don't know that you got
the right guy.
Speaker 3 (02:59):
Man.
Speaker 4 (03:00):
What a what a difficult kind of philosophical problem to
have to try and solve on a regular basis. Because
did you read the Dan Pompeii has been doing great
profiles on figures in sports for a long long time
now at the Athletic Did you read Dan Pompey's most
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recent piece on Matt and Aggie. Now that he's getting
back into the coaching cycle, as a head coaching candidate
as we near Black Monday in the NFL. It was
it was thought provoking on a couple of different fronts.
But it gets into the idea of how a coach
can go in doing the right things and have success
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as a result, but throughout the course of that success
somehow lose the thread, lose themselves, lose the culture, the
different tenants that they've established their program on as they
start to go or get further and further into that job,
rather than just inexperience, which also can be a factor, right,
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I mean, you mentioned the Titans and the situation that
I've just spent a year and a half covering with
Brian Callahan. Somebody in the room forgot to ask or
forgot to consider how important it was before hiring this man, who,
by the way, he gets dumped on a lot rightfully.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
So he's probably the worst head coach.
Speaker 4 (04:26):
From a success standpoint in the history of the franchise. Okay,
so it's not completely unfair criticism, but the things that
he would try to explain to us in media as
to why he was implementing certain things, or the approach
that he was taking to certain things, or the team
building stuff that he was working on and pulling from
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people like Steve Kerr or the the the women's soccer
coach of North Carolina, who I guess is held in
very high esteem. Forgive me, I don't I don't want
to sound ignorant on that front, but there's several different
and places that he was pulling from to try and
figure out how best to do this job. Somebody in
the interview room, though, forgot to ask him about the
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experience of not calling plays as a head coach or
as a coordinator before he became a play calling head
coach who had to have the play calling duties taken
from him because he was letting so many things fall
through the cracks and they looked completely discombobulated.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
On a weekend, week out basis.
Speaker 4 (05:25):
And as far as I can remember, I can't think
of another example of a head coach who didn't actively
call plays getting to do so for the first time
as a head coach and having success doing it. Matt
Lafleur almost had that happened to him if he'd have
gotten the Titans job over Mike Vrabel back in twenty eighteen,
and no, he did a year in Tennessee calling plays
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then went to Green Bay to become the play calling
head coach. Like, I just we haven't seen that very often,
and it's an organizational failure to let something like that
slip through the cracks because you just don't have the
right people in the room asking the important questions that
need to be asked.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
To man, the right people in the room asking the
right questions is such as that's its own deep dive, right,
Like how much that's what it is.
Speaker 5 (06:08):
That's what kills these organizations at every level.
Speaker 4 (06:11):
I know you were talking about it within the context
of college and I pivoted to pro sports, but they
I mean, at the end of the day, there's still
some common thread between those two things as to who's
actually interviewing these people for the job and are they
getting fooled by For example, the Matt Naggy thing, Matt
Naggy made a connection with Virginia McCaskey Rest in Peace,
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the former owner of the Bears, because they were both
from the same place in Pennsylvania.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
He happened to find.
Speaker 4 (06:37):
A bag of these specific kind of like boutique hard
pretzels that are only made in the in the hometown
of the mccaskeys and where Matt Naggy's families from. He
brought it to the interview. It became a bonding moment,
and all of a sudden, not just because of the
pretzels with McCaskey, but it's a bonding moment for an
owner and a coach that maybe that coach isn't actually
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ready for that job, but there it's just a human
element of this that leaves such a margin for air
and again ignore some of the more important things about
are you capable of doing this job the way the
job needs to be done?
Speaker 2 (07:09):
Isn't that at its very core? So similar to what
we talk about with the scouting combine and the draft process,
where all of a sudden, instead of just worrying about
the tape, it's all, man, this kid comes across so
great in the interview room. This kid, absolutely he's got
that thing. When you sit down with him, everybody's gonna
fall in love with him. And it's like, all right, well,
what does that actually how does that actually equate to
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your point? And we've talked about this at nauseum because
we're both related to terrible football teams, the same persons
constantly doing the hiring. So part of the reason this
process never gets right is that you just ask yourself
at the end of the day, who the person is
that finally has to say yes or no to the hire.
And if that person, I mean, if you're a Jets fan,
as long as Woody Johnson is in the room, why
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would I trust that Woody Johnson's ever going to find
the right guy? I just I don't. Maybe you'll get
lucky at some point, like the Texans finally got luck
key with Demiko. I don't think that that was skill.
I think you just got lucky at some point. So
you know, so often what happens here is you've got
the same person making the same decision every couple of years,
and they're constantly wrong about it. Like what do you
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do when at your core, you're a fan of your
favorite football team your favorite basketball team doesn't matter. What
do you do when the team that you're a fan
of when you realize someday that the owner is bad
at evaluating talent, Like Jerry Jones has been very good
at finding very good football coaches, but he doesn't seem
to know how to find that next level, and he's
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always the person making the higher, so we can blame
all the people underneath him, but at some point, you've
got the same talent evaluator. I'll go back to my
music background, like if every time I put together a band,
at some point, if I always pick a bad drummer,
at some point, I'm just not qualified to pick the
right drummer. So we can keep firing drummers, but if
I'm the one doing the audition, I'm going to keep
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hiring bad ones.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
Right.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
So I do think that there's a very all of
this becomes human flaw. But to the coaching point of it,
when I say chopped, it's because I think the coaches
that have the most success, the coaches that I believe
in long term, are coaches that can find and identify
talent that works within their system, but they can also
change what they do to manipulate the best of what
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the talent is that they have. And it's so rare,
But you look at the the Sean mcface, and you
look at the Kyle Shanahan's my god, if your answer
to my team sucks this year is we've been beat
up by injuries, the forty nine ers would like a
worst like mean Kyle Shanahan is clearly the coach of
the Year this year, like they are just Betsy.
Speaker 4 (09:39):
I've been screaming that for a month and still and listen.
Rabel is a popular figure.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
I know Mike. I covered Mike.
Speaker 4 (09:48):
I get it, Okay, He's a very easy guy to
look at and say that guy leader of men, coach
of the year.
Speaker 5 (09:55):
But what Kyle Shanahan is doing is outrageous.
Speaker 3 (09:58):
I'm sorry.
Speaker 4 (09:58):
I didn't mean to interrupt you roll there, but it's
just it's like I have not been able to wrap
my head around that for a month because I saw
my Vrabel win Coach of the Year doing something that
Kyle Shanahan is currently doing. Except Kyle Shanahan has a
harder job to do than Vrabel did in twenty twenty
one because Kyle Shanahan's running that offense and they're just
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bludgeting people. Rot Perty is playing, I don't know, the
best football of his career since he's come back from injury.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
It's ridiculous.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
Yeah, we need to change the entire way that we
talk about Coach of the Year in MVP and everything,
because the award is not based on, Hey, who do
we think was gonna suck. That doesn't suck this year,
Like that's really every year, and this year there's plenty
of candidates in that category. You could look at Mike
Rabel because of the rise of the Patriots. You can
look at Ben Johnson because of the rise of the Bears.
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You could look at even at Mike McDonald because of
the rise of the Seahawks. But when you talk about
just overcoming one injury after another injury after another injury,
doing it with absolutely whoever, and now, by the way,
like we're not even questioning anymore whether or not brock
Perty was worth the money because he's hotter in hell
playing quarterback. I mean, all of that comes back to
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Kyle Shanahan, right, But those guys are few and far between.
But when I think of those teams, in those organizations,
part of the reason I believe in those coaches is
because you just know that that coach brings something extra.
You know that that coach. It's not a coordinator dependence,
it's not a quarterback dependence. It's just those coaches are
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so stinking good at what they do. I think what
we need to acknowledge is that there are I say
this all the time, how many times have I said
there are not thirty two starting caliber left tackles in
the NFL. One of the things that are broken about
the NFL is there's not enough good offensive lineman. I
do not believe that there are currently in the NFL
thirty two head coaches that are so good at what
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they do, that are so unquestionably talented as coach that
they are clearly capable of leading an NFL franchise. I
believe that there are probably ten or twelve. We talk
about quarterbacks being elite all the time. How many great
quarterbacks are there ten or twelve? Maybe how many great
head coaches are there in the NFL ten or twelve?
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And the rest of them are all some level of
either gonna get fired, should be fired, will be fired,
about to be fired, maybe get fired, Like they are
all some level of suck. Like they're all somewhere in
this well, it's not bad enough, but you know what
I mean. So I think that's where the whole thing
just feels so broken. I don't think we realize how
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few quality head coaching candidates there truly are in the
NFL right now.
Speaker 4 (12:43):
Yeah, I'm fascinated to see how the cycle plays out
not just because I'm gonna have to cover coaching search
here in a couple of weeks.
Speaker 3 (12:49):
Again.
Speaker 4 (12:50):
Again, this is my fourth off season FITSI where I'm
getting ready to cover some kind of a general manager
or coaching search for the Tennissee Titans organization because they
just can't figure it the hell out for whatever reason,
and why they continue to put themselves in these situations
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and praying that they get themselves out of it at
a certain point in time, because they've made such a
mess of it so far. And it doesn't mean that
you can't learn from your mistakes and get it right
where you're You know, the Browns have been in a
cycle like this. I don't have to tell you what
a mess the Raiders' situation has been and how how
flawed their process on a lot of these fronts has
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been in the search for a coach, who is who
is that attractive candidate this year? Like that we have
the fewest amount of questions about and is it just
Mike McCarthy At the end of the day, man, is Mike.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
McCarthy's impression left?
Speaker 3 (13:49):
No?
Speaker 4 (13:49):
No, But that's what it is like, That's that's that's
the thing, Like Mike McCarthy.
Speaker 3 (13:54):
Nobody gets a third job.
Speaker 4 (13:56):
And yet people are talking about Mike McCarthy's if he's
going to save a franchise, and I'm looking at him
and it's nothing. You know, I don't want to do
with the agism thing or anything like that. I mean,
he's sixty two years old. I mean that's eleven years
younger to Pete Carroll, who's still out here trying to
get it done. But for all the good, it's done him.
But like Mike McCarthy's going to come in and swoop in,
save your franchise at sixty two years old, if you're
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the Arizona Cardinals, who haven't fired anybody yet but I
don't know, probably should, or the New York Giants or
the Tennessee Titans of the Raiders, Like, come on, what
are we talking about here?
Speaker 2 (14:28):
You mentioned the Raiders. I will say this Max Crosby,
Max Crosby, is he going to get traded? Is he
going to demand a trade? Whatever you want to say
about Max. Max Crosby came into the NFL in twenty nineteen.
All right, Since he came into the NFL in twenty nineteen,
he is quite literally called He's said coach, hey coach
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to one, two, three, four, five different people. Since twenty nineteen,
he's called five different people coach, including interim, including interim,
but yeah, you wanna try to name him? Can you?
Speaker 4 (15:01):
Okay Gruden yep, McDaniels yep, Bisacia yep.
Speaker 3 (15:14):
Uh oh? Who was the one that they just hired
and fired the former under of don't tell me, don't
tell me, don't tell me, he's gonna drive you crazy.
He played linebacker what's his name? Antonio Pierce yep?
Speaker 2 (15:22):
And Pete Carrol. That's your five, Carol five is Since
twenty nineteen, he is called five different people coach. That
just that just shows you how broken the entire hiring
process is. Speaking of Max, he's been all over the
rumor mill. He has spoken tonight on his show. Oh
that gives you some thoughts on what it means for
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Max Crosby's future for the rest of the NFL. We'll
talk about it next. He's a buck rising up, Jason
Fitz's Bucking Fits taking over Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 5 (15:49):
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Speaker 2 (15:59):
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Speaker 3 (16:42):
There?
Speaker 4 (16:42):
Buck?
Speaker 2 (16:42):
Because you running out of time?
Speaker 3 (16:44):
Nope?
Speaker 2 (16:44):
Sure, Okay, When when do we want to do this?
It's due by seven thirty pm Eastern on our to
it now. Okay, Well, I mean it seems a little rude.
While we're on air like we're just in the middle
of doing a show, like.
Speaker 3 (16:56):
You wouldn't know if I didn't tell you.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
Oh my god, I cannot wait to find out on
New Year's Day, when we're together again in the afternoon,
if you've actually done it over under on it. I'm
not giving you great odds.
Speaker 3 (17:08):
I wouldst me in my email.
Speaker 4 (17:12):
Do you know I haven't looked at my email, like,
actually looked at my email in probably three years.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
I look I respect it. I needed an email from Southwest,
and I needed to go out and find an email
from Southwest. And that's how I discovered today that one
of my email accounts is completely full. I found out
that one of my gmails has been bouncing back emails
for months, so I should probably take care of that.
One person I don't think would have emailed me would
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be Max cross Me. But Max has spoken out. You know,
I don't know I needed to segue. Max has spoken.
You're doing great, Bud, Thank you so much. It's it's
almost two in the morning here on the East Coast.
I'm doing I'm hanging off the explanations. Thank you, good sir.
I don't know if Buck and I are now doing
a show we're just having relationship counseling. Okay. So here's
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the thing. Everybody knows that Max was sent home last
week because the Raiders put him on injured reserve. It's
also been widely reported that he does need a knee procedure,
a meniscus trim, so there is no doubt that he
has hurt. The question was could he have played in
these couple of games, and as reported, Max made it
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clear he thought it was a pain tolerance issue that
he could play through. The Raiders made it clear they
did not. They shut him down. He was upset enough
that he left the facility last week. Pete Carroll explained
it as simply, he was overwhelmed by all of it.
He left facility. He has come back to the facility
this week. We also know that he appears with Jim
Gray on the podcast That Used to Be with Jim
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Gray and Tom Brady. That's all over social media to
I think we have a little of it. So check
out Max responding to Jim Gray asking him about how
he feels.
Speaker 3 (18:51):
About all of this.
Speaker 6 (18:52):
My love for the game has been since the day
I started. I started that was in since I could
remember second first grade. I was on the field trying
to play when my brother was in third grade, but
they wouldn't allow me till I was in second grade
to play tackle football. I've been obsessed my whole life
has been football in sports like that has been my
obsession since I was a little kid. Yeah, I've always
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I mean, I'm an addict to the core. I've been
I've had an obsessive, you know, mindset and that addictive
personality my whole life. But when it comes to football,
there's certain things that I truly believe in, and I
feel like there's core principles and that you've got to
live by, and there's a certain way the game needs
to be played, and there's a certain approach that you
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have when you go into that into the field, and
the way you look at it from my perspective is
you play to win, You play to you play for
your teammates. You put everything you have into the game.
No matter what it is. There's gonna be bumps and bruises,
there's gonna be You're gonna be banged up. That is
a part of the game and the nature of the beast.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
So Max also made it clear that he wasn't gonna
speak too much on more of it that is from
obviously from the Let's Go podcast, made it clear he
wasn't gonna speak too much on it, and that, you know,
sort of is what it is. Book, What do you
make of all that?
Speaker 4 (20:14):
I feel like he's a player who's been a really
good soldier for a long time for a losing organization.
I feel like, and you can, you can push back
on any of this fits because you're obviously paying much
closer attention to the Raiders than the average person would
as a fan of the organization. He feels like he
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has been committed to them and to building this thing
back up into being a part of the turnaround for
as long as I can remember, and the turnaround just
simply hasn't come. I'm dealing with a different version of
this in Jeffrey Simmons, right, the Tennessee Titans defensive tackle
who has kind of fought off at every turn any
kind of trade advances or trade suggestions for for teams,
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even though anybody in the world would look at Jeffrey
and say that's the best defensive tackling football this season.
Speaker 3 (21:05):
Why the hell is he playing for Tennessee?
Speaker 4 (21:06):
Why the hell does he want to stay in Tennessee
at this point in time, and it's because he has
a level of belief, and he also has belief in himself.
I think Max Crosby is a similar situation, but he
at every turn right now, I don't think that he
has been reasonably rewarded for the efforts that he makes
because he goes so far above and beyond what is
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his responsibilities, and he seems to be masking so many
other things for them on the defensive side of the football,
just through sheer effort and will on a down and
down out basis. The fact that he still wants to
be out there is an insane an insane proposition of
most normal people. He's clearly not a normal person. It's
what has wired him to be able to succeed at
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the highest levels of athleticism. So, you know, I think
that it's probably in the I wouldn't say it's in
the Raiders interest to move on from him because he's
still a high level player.
Speaker 3 (22:02):
Is he thirty years old yet?
Speaker 2 (22:04):
No, he's a look up his I want to get it.
Speaker 4 (22:08):
I want to say he's like twenty eight, twenty nine.
Either way, he's still a player who is twenty eight. Okay,
so he's at the peak of his power. He is,
he should be right around the peak of his powers
at this point in time. Do you want him traded
or do you want them to try and cut it
out around him?
Speaker 2 (22:27):
That's an interesting question. I will tell you why. I
think it's actually win win for everybody, but for Steve
to Sager, get us cut up on what's going on
the scoreboard.
Speaker 7 (22:38):
Everything is a final, including the late game in the NBA.
In LA, the Clippers beat Sacramento one thirty one to
ninety Kings now eight and twenty five. Clippers led late
first half seventy to thirty five. Kawhi Leonard finished with
thirty three points in thirty three minutes. Detroit pulled away
late to beat the Lakers in LA one twenty eight
to one oh six. Pistons record twenty five and eight.
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Piston shot sixty eight percent from the floor in the
first half and sixty three percent for the game. Boston
is twenty and twelve after its victory at Utah one
twenty nine one nineteen Keyante, Georgia. The Jazz did had
thirty seven points. Philadelphia was an overtime winner at Memphis
one thirty nine one thirty six despite forty points from
Ja Moran. For Philly, Joel Embiid and Tyrese Maxi had
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thirty four points apiece. Maxi would twelve assists, no turnovers.
Denver Nuggets star Nikola Jokic will miss at least a
month with a hyper extended knee. He has a bone
bruise in the left knee as well. When Jokic doesn't play,
Denver's record is thirteen and twenty three over the last
five years. Hawk center Kristaps Porzingis will return from illness
on Wednesday. He's missed ten games. Atlanta went two to
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eight in that stretch. Bulls guard Josh Giddy could miss
a few weeks with a strain hamstring suffered last night
to men's college basketball Number seven Gonzaga held on ninety
nine ninety three at San Diego. Twelfth rank North Carolina
won its conference opener over Florida State seventy nine sixty six.
Among the five NHL games, Pittsburgh at home beat Carolina
five to one. Montreal at overtime won at Florida three
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to two. The Angels in third baseman Anthony Rendonho reportedly
restructured his contract. He was due to end a seven
year deal next year. He missed last season after hip surgery.
He's not expected to play next year. He betted two
thirty one over his last four seasons. The Angels have
not won a playoff game since two thousand and nine,
and they finished under the five hundred mark in each
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of the last ten years. The Halos are signing reliever
Kirby Yates reliever Joe Kelly retired. The Dallas Cowboys cut
veteran defensive back Trayvon Diggs. The Steelers are optimistic the
pass rusher TJ. Watt can play in the finale Sunday Night.
Drew Brees and Eli Manning are among fifteen Hall of
Fame finalists. Northwestern's new offensive coordinator is Chip Kelly. Plenty
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of bowl games coming up Wednesday, and there is the
Miami game against number two Ohio State New Year's Eve
in the Cotton Bowl quarter final today. Bowl games first
in Shreveport, Louisiana Tech won the Independence Bowl twenty three
to fourteen over Coastal Carolina. Louisiana Tech trailed fourteen to
six early in the fourth quarter. Coastal lost four straight
to end the year. In this game, a combined seventeen punts,
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seven turnovers, and twenty five penalties combined. Then, in Nashville,
Illinois edged Tennessee thirty to twenty eight on a short
field goal on the final play. Tennessee had taken the
lead with about five minutes left on a kickoff return
for a td The balls missed a thirty nine yard
field goal attempt late first half. Tonight in San Antonio,
the Alamo Bowl went to TCU at a comeback in overtime,
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beating sixteenth ranked USC thirty to twenty seven. TCU had
trailed by ten with five minutes to go in regulation.
TCU got the game winning touchdown pass on a third
down and twenty play sc through two interceptions, one of
them in the end zone.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
Back to you, He's book rising on Jason Fitz were
hanging out with you on Fox Sports Radio. Buck. You
just asks what needs to happen for Max in my opinion,
and I'll say this full transparency. Max and I are
are buddies. And the funny thing is I text him
on Friday just to say Marry Christmas and hope you
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know he and his family had a great day. I
had no idea at the time because I wasn't paying
attention to the news that Max was in the news.
So we talked and we didn't talk about any of this.
I want to be clear that, like I haven't talked
to Max about any of this. I look at this
and this is just the rare instance where all of
it is win win, Because realistically, if I get to
(26:36):
watch somebody that I think is the best player I've
ever seen play as a Raider, if I get to
watch him play his whole career with the Raiders, and
he's always talked about how much he admired Kobe and
the fact that Kobe played for one organization. He talks
about loyalty, which matters to him as a human being.
Like if he gets to fulfill all of that, I
get to watch him play his whole career for the Raiders,
(26:57):
I'm better off for it. Like as a fan, I
get to watch him better product, and he gets to
have something that matters to him, which is a connection
to one organization that he believes in. So that's a win.
If he chooses to play somewhere else, if he doesn't
want to be part of this chaos anymore, the Raiders
get multiple picks in return, Max Goo somewhere where he
can actually, I don't know, win some football games, which
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is absolutely electric. I think the biggest thing that has
changed in my mind about all of this and why
it's win win, is that I'm watching a team right
now that is the worst I've ever seen in my
lifetime from the Raiders, the worst I've ever washed. And
I think the most important thing that Raiders fans and
really everybody needs to accept in all of this is
that when you are this bad, when you are first
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pick overall bad, you do not fix it in one season.
So my honest answer to this is that I think
the Raiders this offseason are going to fire everybody in
the building, so whatever relationship is damaged by the fact
that he was put on injury reserve will no longer matter.
But I also think that they're going to look in
the mirror and figure out for the first time that
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this is a full reb and you know full rebuild
you're watching in Tennessee. I think a full rebuild is
a three or four year process. So, for being honest,
if everything breaks right for the Raiders, who have a
ton of money to spend, this year. In the offseason,
they're gonna draft a quarterback, I think with the first
or second overall pick, no matter how that comes down.
They're gonna have a new quarterback. They're gonna have a
new coach. They're gonna start this development process. Okay, even
(28:22):
if you go above the ahead of all of this,
Max is gonna be thirty one or thirty two before
the Raiders even get to the point where they can
take advantage of Max. So if he wants to go
play somewhere else, by God, he's earned the right to
go do that win some football games, the Raiders won't
be able to take advantage of the meat of his
greatness in my opinion, because, frankly, as I've said to
(28:42):
you before, a couple of years ago, Max was one
of the league leaders in sacks, Josh Jacobs led the
league in rushing, DeVante had a thousand yards receiving, and
the Raiders won six games. Max Crosby is otherworldly and
the Raiders are gonna win two games. The Raiders at
some point have to figure out how to win enough
to reward Max for ever everything he does, and the
only way that they do that is a massive long
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term rebuild. I think everybody needs to understand that if
this rebuild is done the right way, if it's done
at a home run level, I think the best possible
scenario next year is the Raiders win six games, and
the year after that they win eight or nine games,
and then they're on the precipice of something. And if
you're gonna waste that much of Max, by god, if
he wants to play somewhere else, let him. And if
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he doesn't, and if at the twilight of his career
he's finally playing on a winner, Holy hell, that worked
out for everybody. That's why, Weirdly, I don't think that
there's any wrong answer for Max. Let Max do what
he wants to do, play where he wants to play,
honor that that way, it's still a win win for
the Raiders.
Speaker 4 (29:42):
You say that I know what a rebuild looks like
because of the team that I cover on a daily basis,
But I FITZI they tried their damness not to do
it when on several occasions, and listen, this is a
fair criticism of Mike Ribal.
Speaker 3 (29:57):
At the time, Mike Ribel didn't want to.
Speaker 4 (30:00):
Have anything that looked remotely like a rebuild or retooling
or whatever other than to be as competitive as humanly
possible while he was still the head coach of the Titans,
and so that resulted in what his final season, they
were six and eleven and winning games. That didn't help
their draft position, but whatever. Like, the goal is always
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to win games, and so you're not going to put
out a product that would be anything less than what
your standard is on that front, which I respect on
the part of coaches and players. Of course, when they
step out on that field, that's the only thing that matters,
and that should be the only thing that matters top
to bottom organizationally. But it did kind of keep them
in this situation where they were still trying to Ryan
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Tannehill their way through things at the end when that
was clearly a lost cause and the team around Tannehill
had depreciated to the point where he was no longer
functioning at a high level. And since then he's not
officially retired, but he sure as hell hasn't been, you know,
Philip riversing out there back into the mix at any
point in time. He hasn't been one of these veterans
quarterbacks that come that's come back into the spotlight for
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whatever reason due to injury, and then again in the
absence of Mike Vrabel, they spent all manner of money
on Calvin Ridley and Lagerious Need and Kenneth Murray and
cheetoh Ouzia and Lloyd Cushion Berry huge contracts. Not one
of them has panned out in any meaningful way. They
lit what was it, one hundred and twenty eight million
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dollars worth of caps are contract dollars on fire in
that acquisition. In the to build around Will Levis to
kind of, you know, try and do a version of
what I think the Saints are going to try and
do in twenty twenty six, which is built around a
flyer of a second round pike at quarterback that might
actually have something to work with, except you feel better
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about Tyler Shuck, and you did Will Levis at the time.
It took them until this year to actually do the
real rebuilding thing. And that's only because ownership had her
hand forced. So it's one thing to say it, and
you're right, there is a win win proposition to be
had in that particular situation, But you also have to
get the most important people involved with the organization, the
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people that own the organization to actually commit and stick
with the plan. And that is so much easier said
than done.
Speaker 2 (32:13):
The biggest mistake in sports is not paying elite money
to average talent. You hear that all the time. The
biggest mistake in sports is not looking in the mirror
and admitting where you are. And I cannot scream this
loud enough, Like it's okay. Sometimes in life you wake
up one day and you look in the mirror and
you're like, man, I got fat. I got really fat.
(32:34):
Now I don't know how I got so fat, right,
And then immediately you're like, well, I'll fix it, okay,
that to do it the right way. Like we live
in an Ozempic society, and you can have a year
on the Ozmpic Society, like you can be the Washington Commanders,
and like Jaden Daniels plays out of his mind and
your way ahead of the curve and suddenly everything feels great.
Let's see where we are on the Patriots who have
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had a weird schedule this year. Let's see if this
is sustainable before we can convince ourselves that everything is
fixed in New England. I don't know, I just know
that the way the only real way to truly fix
things is to actually do the right things day in
and day out and watch the slow process of changing
your body to your point. I talked to Raheem Moster,
who most people don't even realize is on the Raiders
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roster in week two of this season, and he told
me when I was interviewed on for y'ahoo Sports, he said,
I've never played for a team before that thought they
could rebuild and win at the same time. But the
Raiders believe they can do that this year that was
their fatal mistake. I think bad teams need to look
in the mirror. I've told you this before. Owners need
to step up to the podium and tell fans, hey,
(33:37):
we suck, and we suck because I haven't done a
very good job and the only way we're going to
get better is if we take the time to rebuild.
So I'm asking you to give me three or four years.
We're going to rip this thing down to the studs
and we're going to rebuild it. So success is going
to look different. We're not going to compete for a
championship this year, but we are going to get this
roster better every single day, and if it breaks faster, awesome.
(33:58):
I think that's what teams have to do. If you're
making first, second, third, fourth in the draft, you suck.
Nobody's gonna do it. But I think the only way
that you can actually work around you pick a quarterback first.
Overall fine, then you got to start the process of
building an entire roster around them. Admitting that you suck
and that you need a full rebuild is the one
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thing that teams aren't willing to do, and not doing
it is the biggest mistake in sports. The biggest mistake
you can make is not sticking around because the great
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Buck and Fits hanging out with the on Fox Sports Radio?
So Jason Smith Show with Mike Harmon, but it's a
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And then Saturday and our usual slot six to eight
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oh god, can you feel the magic? I don't know
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what you're gonna what you wanta sitting there? Yeah, you're
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Speaker 3 (35:02):
And just did I bring my bathrobe?
Speaker 2 (35:05):
Well, you know what, maybe I'll get a bathrobe before then.
I mean that requires a lot of work to see
if Amazon can deliver one doesn't just get a bathroom? Well,
who sells bathrobes? I don't even know who sells bathroom?
Speaker 3 (35:16):
Literally, there's a store called bed Bathroom Beyond.
Speaker 2 (35:18):
Okay, bet bath and Beyond isn't even in business anymore. Okay,
can keep up with your stories?
Speaker 3 (35:22):
Really?
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Yeah? Like, well they were bought by overstock now, but
I don't think they have stories anymore. I think all
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Speaker 3 (35:28):
Whoa, Literally, that's a revelation. That's just he shattered my
world here in the middle of the night.
Speaker 2 (35:35):
I just maybe there's a bathroobes dot com that can
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Speaker 3 (35:52):
I We got it?
Speaker 2 (35:54):
It's easy, guys, too hard? Would you rather, Buckety, it's
no good or face it where Bo comes in, reads
us a question and we figure out what we would
rather do. Very complicated concept. But what do you got for?
Speaker 8 (36:07):
Would you guys rather only be able to communicate through
motivational gym quotes or only through passive aggressive emails?
Speaker 3 (36:15):
Oh? Passive aggressive emails? That's how I communicate now, Now
that would require to look for me to look at.
Speaker 4 (36:20):
My email as opposed to sending passive aggressive text. But yeah,
anything that involves me being passive aggressive, I'll take that pass.
Speaker 2 (36:28):
Yeah, I'm an unpassive aggressive. That is by far the
right answer on that one, mostly because I know, to
Buck's point, I'm not going to check it, or when
I do check it, it's three in the morning, and
I've had, like, you know, enough edibles that I'll laugh
at your passive aggressiveness and then I'll come back with
more passive aggressiveness, which.
Speaker 4 (36:42):
By the way, ignoring the emails further is just an
additional layer of passive aggressiveness.
Speaker 2 (36:48):
I absolutely love everything about this, Bo. What do you
got for our next one?
Speaker 8 (36:53):
This one actually made me physically cringe when I read it.
Would you rather have to explain TikTok trends to your
grandparents for or have them explain Facebook memes to you forever.
Speaker 3 (37:03):
No.
Speaker 2 (37:04):
Oh, I kind of love the idea of having Facebook
memes explained to me by my grandparents, so that I
can get their perspective on exactly what they find humorous
about it. Yeah. Plus, I get really frustrated, Like I'm
patient as a listener, I am frustrated as an explainer
when my point doesn't get received quick enough. I'm like,
what I speak for a little way, like, what are
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you not figuring out here? I have made this very clear,
and I don't want me mom papa to have that.
Not that either of my grandparents alive, but that would
be my answer buck where are you? Oh?
Speaker 4 (37:37):
I still have one grandparent alive, and I would hate
to be to even think about the idea of becoming
annoyed with her when she tries to explain to me
her Facebook trends. So I would rather take the time
to explain to her TikTok trends rather than be bothered
by what the old people are doing on Facebook.
Speaker 2 (37:52):
I just love the idea.
Speaker 3 (37:54):
The hell is still using Facebook?
Speaker 2 (37:56):
My mom? The leading Facebook was one of the joyful
things that I did in my life several years ago.
It is just absolutely it is electric to not know
how anyone what are.
Speaker 4 (38:05):
People doing on Facebook other than buying things in Facebook marketplace?
Speaker 3 (38:09):
I'm confused.
Speaker 8 (38:10):
I can tell you my mom is reading things that
make her upset and then telling me what she saw
on Facebook that made her upset. And then when I
tell her, like, just delete the app, she says, But
I don't want to people on Facebook.
Speaker 2 (38:22):
I've got yeah, I don't want to know my friends
that well, like I don't. I don't really care about
what any of you think about politics. I just don't,
So you know, I like we got rid of I
got rid of knowing anything religion politics related based on
any of my friends. I like my friends, morna, I
don't go would you guys? Uh?
Speaker 5 (38:40):
Would you?
Speaker 2 (38:41):
Would you guys?
Speaker 8 (38:41):
Rather, every song you hear be replaced with the NFL
on Fox theme or every conversation you have end with
And that's why Tom Brady's the goat.
Speaker 5 (38:51):
Hmmm, well contextualize say the first one again?
Speaker 3 (38:56):
Bo, if you would uh?
Speaker 8 (38:58):
Every song you hear is re placed by the wonderful
NFL on Fox theme.
Speaker 4 (39:03):
It's not nothing against the NFL on Fox day. But
I do like music, so I need a little variety
in my life. I'd probably end every conversation with That's
why Tom Brady's to goat.
Speaker 2 (39:13):
But every time somebody says that, it would just make
my blood boil and I would be reminded of the
Tuck rule. So I will take the NFL on Fox
all day every day. That's an easy one, very easy.
Like I'll get used to one song and I'll sing
it stylistically. I'll just walk around the house and humme
it like it's mine. What do you got?
Speaker 8 (39:32):
Would you, guys, rather be famous for something that you
didn't do or be rich for something deeply embarrassing?
Speaker 3 (39:38):
No?
Speaker 2 (39:38):
Rich? Look, I mean I don't there's no such thing
as embarrassing. Whatever you are offering, like whatever you are
asking me to do on a YouTube live and I
mean whatever, if it has the right payday on it,
it's cool. Me Ma can watch that on Facebook. I
don't care as long as there's enough cash on it.
So like correct, Yeah, but we are both.
Speaker 3 (39:57):
Were also for sale. I like money.
Speaker 2 (40:05):
We just learned so much about ourselves that we already
should have known. Absolutely wild. Hey, we appreciate you guys
spending the last four hours hanging out with us. It
is always a blast to get to do this. Certainly,
stick around more Fox Sports Radio all night. We'll see
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Speaker 2 (00:10):
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Speaker 2 (00:22):
Let's give this if you're listening to Fox Sports Radio.
The more we talk about coaching, whether it's college football,
whether it's the NFL, whether it's any sport. The more
we talk about coaching, the more I keep asking myself
the same question, what's your value added? What do you
(00:42):
actually bring to it? And oversimplification What I want from
my coaches? Are my coaches to be like chefs on
the TV show Chopped, open a basket of ingredients. Whatever
you got, make me the mother of all dishes. I
think the problem is more and more learning that most
coaches aren't great chefs. He's Buck Rising. I'm Jason Fitzworth
(01:06):
filling in for the guys on Fox Sports Radio. Hear
me out like this for me said, thank you, thank
you so much. You know I get deeper. Is then
I goes one am on the East Coast and I'm
just I'm suddenly in my fields, you know.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
Deeper and delusion for sure.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Usually I'm this deep because I'm like three edibles in.
But I can't do that right now because I've still
got to work right, So I just got to get
a step ahead of it as the as the night
goes on. But for me, and this is this is
becoming clearer and clearer in the NFL too, Like start
asking yourself, what what is this guy's calling card or
girls calling card? And coach, what is the thing that
(01:46):
this person does so well that it got him here?
Because Dominique Foxworth pointed out years ago to me and
and actually wrote an article on ESPN somewhere it was
like twenty sixteen. It's a great read about what they
need in the NFL as a coaching combine where you
could see all the coordinators have to do the things
that head coaches do, and owners could evaluate it the
(02:07):
same way that we evaluate players. I've always thought about
that because, as you know, covering the Titans, it's such
a different job being an offensive coordinator and a head
coach the two. I cannot scream this loud enough. The
two are not related. They are not at all the same,
which is why Josh McDaniels can be a great offensive
coordinator and a terrible head coach. They're wildly different jobs.
(02:30):
So when we see USC fail, I immediately think, Okay,
what is Lincoln Riley's calling card to this? When we
look at some of the teams that right now are
failing in the NFL, what does this coach bring to
the table, Like I need a head coach to be
so good at what they do throughout the entire process
that no matter what, I can look at it and say,
I understand the identity of this head coach. And that's
(02:51):
why I understand the identity of this team. And once
you lose that, man, I don't know that you got
the right guy.
Speaker 3 (02:59):
Man.
Speaker 4 (03:00):
What a what a difficult kind of philosophical problem to
have to try and solve on a regular basis. Because
did you read the Dan Pompeii has been doing great
profiles on figures in sports for a long long time
now at the Athletic Did you read Dan Pompey's most
(03:21):
recent piece on Matt and Aggie. Now that he's getting
back into the coaching cycle, as a head coaching candidate
as we near Black Monday in the NFL. It was
it was thought provoking on a couple of different fronts.
But it gets into the idea of how a coach
can go in doing the right things and have success
(03:45):
as a result, but throughout the course of that success
somehow lose the thread, lose themselves, lose the culture, the
different tenants that they've established their program on as they
start to go or get further and further into that job,
rather than just inexperience, which also can be a factor, right,
(04:07):
I mean, you mentioned the Titans and the situation that
I've just spent a year and a half covering with
Brian Callahan. Somebody in the room forgot to ask or
forgot to consider how important it was before hiring this man, who,
by the way, he gets dumped on a lot rightfully.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
So he's probably the worst head coach.
Speaker 4 (04:26):
From a success standpoint in the history of the franchise. Okay,
so it's not completely unfair criticism, but the things that
he would try to explain to us in media as
to why he was implementing certain things, or the approach
that he was taking to certain things, or the team
building stuff that he was working on and pulling from
(04:47):
people like Steve Kerr or the the the women's soccer
coach of North Carolina, who I guess is held in
very high esteem. Forgive me, I don't I don't want
to sound ignorant on that front, but there's several different
and places that he was pulling from to try and
figure out how best to do this job. Somebody in
the interview room, though, forgot to ask him about the
(05:07):
experience of not calling plays as a head coach or
as a coordinator before he became a play calling head
coach who had to have the play calling duties taken
from him because he was letting so many things fall
through the cracks and they looked completely discombobulated.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
On a weekend, week out basis.
Speaker 4 (05:25):
And as far as I can remember, I can't think
of another example of a head coach who didn't actively
call plays getting to do so for the first time
as a head coach and having success doing it. Matt
Lafleur almost had that happened to him if he'd have
gotten the Titans job over Mike Vrabel back in twenty eighteen,
and no, he did a year in Tennessee calling plays
(05:45):
then went to Green Bay to become the play calling
head coach. Like, I just we haven't seen that very often,
and it's an organizational failure to let something like that
slip through the cracks because you just don't have the
right people in the room asking the important questions that
need to be asked.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
To man, the right people in the room asking the
right questions is such as that's its own deep dive, right,
Like how much that's what it is.
Speaker 5 (06:08):
That's what kills these organizations at every level.
Speaker 4 (06:11):
I know you were talking about it within the context
of college and I pivoted to pro sports, but they
I mean, at the end of the day, there's still
some common thread between those two things as to who's
actually interviewing these people for the job and are they
getting fooled by For example, the Matt Naggy thing, Matt
Naggy made a connection with Virginia McCaskey Rest in Peace,
(06:32):
the former owner of the Bears, because they were both
from the same place in Pennsylvania.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
He happened to find.
Speaker 4 (06:37):
A bag of these specific kind of like boutique hard
pretzels that are only made in the in the hometown
of the mccaskeys and where Matt Naggy's families from. He
brought it to the interview. It became a bonding moment,
and all of a sudden, not just because of the
pretzels with McCaskey, but it's a bonding moment for an
owner and a coach that maybe that coach isn't actually
(06:58):
ready for that job, but there it's just a human
element of this that leaves such a margin for air
and again ignore some of the more important things about
are you capable of doing this job the way the
job needs to be done?
Speaker 2 (07:09):
Isn't that at its very core? So similar to what
we talk about with the scouting combine and the draft process,
where all of a sudden, instead of just worrying about
the tape, it's all, man, this kid comes across so
great in the interview room. This kid, absolutely he's got
that thing. When you sit down with him, everybody's gonna
fall in love with him. And it's like, all right, well,
what does that actually how does that actually equate to
(07:31):
your point? And we've talked about this at nauseum because
we're both related to terrible football teams, the same persons
constantly doing the hiring. So part of the reason this
process never gets right is that you just ask yourself
at the end of the day, who the person is
that finally has to say yes or no to the hire.
And if that person, I mean, if you're a Jets fan,
as long as Woody Johnson is in the room, why
(07:53):
would I trust that Woody Johnson's ever going to find
the right guy? I just I don't. Maybe you'll get
lucky at some point, like the Texans finally got luck
key with Demiko. I don't think that that was skill.
I think you just got lucky at some point. So
you know, so often what happens here is you've got
the same person making the same decision every couple of years,
and they're constantly wrong about it. Like what do you
(08:14):
do when at your core, you're a fan of your
favorite football team your favorite basketball team doesn't matter. What
do you do when the team that you're a fan
of when you realize someday that the owner is bad
at evaluating talent, Like Jerry Jones has been very good
at finding very good football coaches, but he doesn't seem
to know how to find that next level, and he's
(08:35):
always the person making the higher, so we can blame
all the people underneath him, but at some point, you've
got the same talent evaluator. I'll go back to my
music background, like if every time I put together a band,
at some point, if I always pick a bad drummer,
at some point, I'm just not qualified to pick the
right drummer. So we can keep firing drummers, but if
I'm the one doing the audition, I'm going to keep
(08:56):
hiring bad ones.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
Right.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
So I do think that there's a very all of
this becomes human flaw. But to the coaching point of it,
when I say chopped, it's because I think the coaches
that have the most success, the coaches that I believe
in long term, are coaches that can find and identify
talent that works within their system, but they can also
change what they do to manipulate the best of what
(09:19):
the talent is that they have. And it's so rare,
But you look at the the Sean mcface, and you
look at the Kyle Shanahan's my god, if your answer
to my team sucks this year is we've been beat
up by injuries, the forty nine ers would like a
worst like mean Kyle Shanahan is clearly the coach of
the Year this year, like they are just Betsy.
Speaker 4 (09:39):
I've been screaming that for a month and still and listen.
Rabel is a popular figure.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
I know Mike. I covered Mike.
Speaker 4 (09:48):
I get it, Okay, He's a very easy guy to
look at and say that guy leader of men, coach
of the year.
Speaker 5 (09:55):
But what Kyle Shanahan is doing is outrageous.
Speaker 3 (09:58):
I'm sorry.
Speaker 4 (09:58):
I didn't mean to interrupt you roll there, but it's
just it's like I have not been able to wrap
my head around that for a month because I saw
my Vrabel win Coach of the Year doing something that
Kyle Shanahan is currently doing. Except Kyle Shanahan has a
harder job to do than Vrabel did in twenty twenty
one because Kyle Shanahan's running that offense and they're just
(10:20):
bludgeting people. Rot Perty is playing, I don't know, the
best football of his career since he's come back from injury.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
It's ridiculous.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
Yeah, we need to change the entire way that we
talk about Coach of the Year in MVP and everything,
because the award is not based on, Hey, who do
we think was gonna suck. That doesn't suck this year,
Like that's really every year, and this year there's plenty
of candidates in that category. You could look at Mike
Rabel because of the rise of the Patriots. You can
look at Ben Johnson because of the rise of the Bears.
(10:48):
You could look at even at Mike McDonald because of
the rise of the Seahawks. But when you talk about
just overcoming one injury after another injury after another injury,
doing it with absolutely whoever, and now, by the way,
like we're not even questioning anymore whether or not brock
Perty was worth the money because he's hotter in hell
playing quarterback. I mean, all of that comes back to
(11:10):
Kyle Shanahan, right, But those guys are few and far between.
But when I think of those teams, in those organizations,
part of the reason I believe in those coaches is
because you just know that that coach brings something extra.
You know that that coach. It's not a coordinator dependence,
it's not a quarterback dependence. It's just those coaches are
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so stinking good at what they do. I think what
we need to acknowledge is that there are I say
this all the time, how many times have I said
there are not thirty two starting caliber left tackles in
the NFL. One of the things that are broken about
the NFL is there's not enough good offensive lineman. I
do not believe that there are currently in the NFL
thirty two head coaches that are so good at what
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they do, that are so unquestionably talented as coach that
they are clearly capable of leading an NFL franchise. I
believe that there are probably ten or twelve. We talk
about quarterbacks being elite all the time. How many great
quarterbacks are there ten or twelve? Maybe how many great
head coaches are there in the NFL ten or twelve?
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And the rest of them are all some level of
either gonna get fired, should be fired, will be fired,
about to be fired, maybe get fired, Like they are
all some level of suck. Like they're all somewhere in
this well, it's not bad enough, but you know what
I mean. So I think that's where the whole thing
just feels so broken. I don't think we realize how
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few quality head coaching candidates there truly are in the
NFL right now.
Speaker 4 (12:43):
Yeah, I'm fascinated to see how the cycle plays out
not just because I'm gonna have to cover coaching search
here in a couple of weeks.
Speaker 3 (12:49):
Again.
Speaker 4 (12:50):
Again, this is my fourth off season FITSI where I'm
getting ready to cover some kind of a general manager
or coaching search for the Tennissee Titans organization because they
just can't figure it the hell out for whatever reason,
and why they continue to put themselves in these situations
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and praying that they get themselves out of it at
a certain point in time, because they've made such a
mess of it so far. And it doesn't mean that
you can't learn from your mistakes and get it right
where you're You know, the Browns have been in a
cycle like this. I don't have to tell you what
a mess the Raiders' situation has been and how how
flawed their process on a lot of these fronts has
(13:33):
been in the search for a coach, who is who
is that attractive candidate this year? Like that we have
the fewest amount of questions about and is it just
Mike McCarthy At the end of the day, man, is Mike.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
McCarthy's impression left?
Speaker 3 (13:49):
No?
Speaker 4 (13:49):
No, But that's what it is like, That's that's that's
the thing, Like Mike McCarthy.
Speaker 3 (13:54):
Nobody gets a third job.
Speaker 4 (13:56):
And yet people are talking about Mike McCarthy's if he's
going to save a franchise, and I'm looking at him
and it's nothing. You know, I don't want to do
with the agism thing or anything like that. I mean,
he's sixty two years old. I mean that's eleven years
younger to Pete Carroll, who's still out here trying to
get it done. But for all the good, it's done him.
But like Mike McCarthy's going to come in and swoop in,
save your franchise at sixty two years old, if you're
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the Arizona Cardinals, who haven't fired anybody yet but I
don't know, probably should, or the New York Giants or
the Tennessee Titans of the Raiders, Like, come on, what
are we talking about here?
Speaker 2 (14:28):
You mentioned the Raiders. I will say this Max Crosby,
Max Crosby, is he going to get traded? Is he
going to demand a trade? Whatever you want to say
about Max. Max Crosby came into the NFL in twenty nineteen.
All right, Since he came into the NFL in twenty nineteen,
he is quite literally called He's said coach, hey coach
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to one, two, three, four, five different people. Since twenty nineteen,
he's called five different people coach, including interim, including interim,
but yeah, you wanna try to name him? Can you?
Speaker 4 (15:01):
Okay Gruden yep, McDaniels yep, Bisacia yep.
Speaker 3 (15:14):
Uh oh? Who was the one that they just hired
and fired the former under of don't tell me, don't
tell me, don't tell me, he's gonna drive you crazy.
He played linebacker what's his name? Antonio Pierce yep?
Speaker 2 (15:22):
And Pete Carrol. That's your five, Carol five is Since
twenty nineteen, he is called five different people coach. That
just that just shows you how broken the entire hiring
process is. Speaking of Max, he's been all over the
rumor mill. He has spoken tonight on his show. Oh
that gives you some thoughts on what it means for
(15:43):
Max Crosby's future for the rest of the NFL. We'll
talk about it next. He's a buck rising up, Jason
Fitz's Bucking Fits taking over Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 5 (15:49):
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Speaker 2 (15:59):
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Speaker 3 (16:42):
There?
Speaker 4 (16:42):
Buck?
Speaker 2 (16:42):
Because you running out of time?
Speaker 3 (16:44):
Nope?
Speaker 2 (16:44):
Sure, Okay, When when do we want to do this?
It's due by seven thirty pm Eastern on our to
it now. Okay, Well, I mean it seems a little rude.
While we're on air like we're just in the middle
of doing a show, like.
Speaker 3 (16:56):
You wouldn't know if I didn't tell you.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
Oh my god, I cannot wait to find out on
New Year's Day, when we're together again in the afternoon,
if you've actually done it over under on it. I'm
not giving you great odds.
Speaker 3 (17:08):
I wouldst me in my email.
Speaker 4 (17:12):
Do you know I haven't looked at my email, like,
actually looked at my email in probably three years.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
I look I respect it. I needed an email from Southwest,
and I needed to go out and find an email
from Southwest. And that's how I discovered today that one
of my email accounts is completely full. I found out
that one of my gmails has been bouncing back emails
for months, so I should probably take care of that.
One person I don't think would have emailed me would
(17:40):
be Max cross Me. But Max has spoken out. You know,
I don't know I needed to segue. Max has spoken.
You're doing great, Bud, Thank you so much. It's it's
almost two in the morning here on the East Coast.
I'm doing I'm hanging off the explanations. Thank you, good sir.
I don't know if Buck and I are now doing
a show we're just having relationship counseling. Okay. So here's
(18:02):
the thing. Everybody knows that Max was sent home last
week because the Raiders put him on injured reserve. It's
also been widely reported that he does need a knee procedure,
a meniscus trim, so there is no doubt that he
has hurt. The question was could he have played in
these couple of games, and as reported, Max made it
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clear he thought it was a pain tolerance issue that
he could play through. The Raiders made it clear they
did not. They shut him down. He was upset enough
that he left the facility last week. Pete Carroll explained
it as simply, he was overwhelmed by all of it.
He left facility. He has come back to the facility
this week. We also know that he appears with Jim
Gray on the podcast That Used to Be with Jim
(18:44):
Gray and Tom Brady. That's all over social media to
I think we have a little of it. So check
out Max responding to Jim Gray asking him about how
he feels.
Speaker 3 (18:51):
About all of this.
Speaker 6 (18:52):
My love for the game has been since the day
I started. I started that was in since I could
remember second first grade. I was on the field trying
to play when my brother was in third grade, but
they wouldn't allow me till I was in second grade
to play tackle football. I've been obsessed my whole life
has been football in sports like that has been my
obsession since I was a little kid. Yeah, I've always
(19:15):
I mean, I'm an addict to the core. I've been
I've had an obsessive, you know, mindset and that addictive
personality my whole life. But when it comes to football,
there's certain things that I truly believe in, and I
feel like there's core principles and that you've got to
live by, and there's a certain way the game needs
to be played, and there's a certain approach that you
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have when you go into that into the field, and
the way you look at it from my perspective is
you play to win, You play to you play for
your teammates. You put everything you have into the game.
No matter what it is. There's gonna be bumps and bruises,
there's gonna be You're gonna be banged up. That is
a part of the game and the nature of the beast.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
So Max also made it clear that he wasn't gonna
speak too much on more of it that is from
obviously from the Let's Go podcast, made it clear he
wasn't gonna speak too much on it, and that, you know,
sort of is what it is. Book, What do you
make of all that?
Speaker 4 (20:14):
I feel like he's a player who's been a really
good soldier for a long time for a losing organization.
I feel like, and you can, you can push back
on any of this fits because you're obviously paying much
closer attention to the Raiders than the average person would
as a fan of the organization. He feels like he
(20:37):
has been committed to them and to building this thing
back up into being a part of the turnaround for
as long as I can remember, and the turnaround just
simply hasn't come. I'm dealing with a different version of
this in Jeffrey Simmons, right, the Tennessee Titans defensive tackle
who has kind of fought off at every turn any
kind of trade advances or trade suggestions for for teams,
(21:00):
even though anybody in the world would look at Jeffrey
and say that's the best defensive tackling football this season.
Speaker 3 (21:05):
Why the hell is he playing for Tennessee?
Speaker 4 (21:06):
Why the hell does he want to stay in Tennessee
at this point in time, and it's because he has
a level of belief, and he also has belief in himself.
I think Max Crosby is a similar situation, but he
at every turn right now, I don't think that he
has been reasonably rewarded for the efforts that he makes
because he goes so far above and beyond what is
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his responsibilities, and he seems to be masking so many
other things for them on the defensive side of the football,
just through sheer effort and will on a down and
down out basis. The fact that he still wants to
be out there is an insane an insane proposition of
most normal people. He's clearly not a normal person. It's
what has wired him to be able to succeed at
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the highest levels of athleticism. So, you know, I think
that it's probably in the I wouldn't say it's in
the Raiders interest to move on from him because he's
still a high level player.
Speaker 3 (22:02):
Is he thirty years old yet?
Speaker 2 (22:04):
No, he's a look up his I want to get it.
Speaker 4 (22:08):
I want to say he's like twenty eight, twenty nine.
Either way, he's still a player who is twenty eight. Okay,
so he's at the peak of his power. He is,
he should be right around the peak of his powers
at this point in time. Do you want him traded
or do you want them to try and cut it
out around him?
Speaker 2 (22:27):
That's an interesting question. I will tell you why. I
think it's actually win win for everybody, but for Steve
to Sager, get us cut up on what's going on
the scoreboard.
Speaker 7 (22:38):
Everything is a final, including the late game in the NBA.
In LA, the Clippers beat Sacramento one thirty one to
ninety Kings now eight and twenty five. Clippers led late
first half seventy to thirty five. Kawhi Leonard finished with
thirty three points in thirty three minutes. Detroit pulled away
late to beat the Lakers in LA one twenty eight
to one oh six. Pistons record twenty five and eight.
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Piston shot sixty eight percent from the floor in the
first half and sixty three percent for the game. Boston
is twenty and twelve after its victory at Utah one
twenty nine one nineteen Keyante, Georgia. The Jazz did had
thirty seven points. Philadelphia was an overtime winner at Memphis
one thirty nine one thirty six despite forty points from
Ja Moran. For Philly, Joel Embiid and Tyrese Maxi had
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thirty four points apiece. Maxi would twelve assists, no turnovers.
Denver Nuggets star Nikola Jokic will miss at least a
month with a hyper extended knee. He has a bone
bruise in the left knee as well. When Jokic doesn't play,
Denver's record is thirteen and twenty three over the last
five years. Hawk center Kristaps Porzingis will return from illness
on Wednesday. He's missed ten games. Atlanta went two to
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eight in that stretch. Bulls guard Josh Giddy could miss
a few weeks with a strain hamstring suffered last night
to men's college basketball Number seven Gonzaga held on ninety
nine ninety three at San Diego. Twelfth rank North Carolina
won its conference opener over Florida State seventy nine sixty six.
Among the five NHL games, Pittsburgh at home beat Carolina
five to one. Montreal at overtime won at Florida three
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to two. The Angels in third baseman Anthony Rendonho reportedly
restructured his contract. He was due to end a seven
year deal next year. He missed last season after hip surgery.
He's not expected to play next year. He betted two
thirty one over his last four seasons. The Angels have
not won a playoff game since two thousand and nine,
and they finished under the five hundred mark in each
(24:29):
of the last ten years. The Halos are signing reliever
Kirby Yates reliever Joe Kelly retired. The Dallas Cowboys cut
veteran defensive back Trayvon Diggs. The Steelers are optimistic the
pass rusher TJ. Watt can play in the finale Sunday Night.
Drew Brees and Eli Manning are among fifteen Hall of
Fame finalists. Northwestern's new offensive coordinator is Chip Kelly. Plenty
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of bowl games coming up Wednesday, and there is the
Miami game against number two Ohio State New Year's Eve
in the Cotton Bowl quarter final today. Bowl games first
in Shreveport, Louisiana Tech won the Independence Bowl twenty three
to fourteen over Coastal Carolina. Louisiana Tech trailed fourteen to
six early in the fourth quarter. Coastal lost four straight
to end the year. In this game, a combined seventeen punts,
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seven turnovers, and twenty five penalties combined. Then, in Nashville,
Illinois edged Tennessee thirty to twenty eight on a short
field goal on the final play. Tennessee had taken the
lead with about five minutes left on a kickoff return
for a td The balls missed a thirty nine yard
field goal attempt late first half. Tonight in San Antonio,
the Alamo Bowl went to TCU at a comeback in overtime,
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beating sixteenth ranked USC thirty to twenty seven. TCU had
trailed by ten with five minutes to go in regulation.
TCU got the game winning touchdown pass on a third
down and twenty play sc through two interceptions, one of
them in the end zone.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
Back to you, He's book rising on Jason Fitz were
hanging out with you on Fox Sports Radio. Buck. You
just asks what needs to happen for Max in my opinion,
and I'll say this full transparency. Max and I are
are buddies. And the funny thing is I text him
on Friday just to say Marry Christmas and hope you
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know he and his family had a great day. I
had no idea at the time because I wasn't paying
attention to the news that Max was in the news.
So we talked and we didn't talk about any of this.
I want to be clear that, like I haven't talked
to Max about any of this. I look at this
and this is just the rare instance where all of
it is win win, Because realistically, if I get to
(26:36):
watch somebody that I think is the best player I've
ever seen play as a Raider, if I get to
watch him play his whole career with the Raiders, and
he's always talked about how much he admired Kobe and
the fact that Kobe played for one organization. He talks
about loyalty, which matters to him as a human being.
Like if he gets to fulfill all of that, I
get to watch him play his whole career for the Raiders,
(26:57):
I'm better off for it. Like as a fan, I
get to watch him better product, and he gets to
have something that matters to him, which is a connection
to one organization that he believes in. So that's a win.
If he chooses to play somewhere else, if he doesn't
want to be part of this chaos anymore, the Raiders
get multiple picks in return, Max Goo somewhere where he
can actually, I don't know, win some football games, which
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is absolutely electric. I think the biggest thing that has
changed in my mind about all of this and why
it's win win, is that I'm watching a team right
now that is the worst I've ever seen in my
lifetime from the Raiders, the worst I've ever washed. And
I think the most important thing that Raiders fans and
really everybody needs to accept in all of this is
that when you are this bad, when you are first
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pick overall bad, you do not fix it in one season.
So my honest answer to this is that I think
the Raiders this offseason are going to fire everybody in
the building, so whatever relationship is damaged by the fact
that he was put on injury reserve will no longer matter.
But I also think that they're going to look in
the mirror and figure out for the first time that
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this is a full reb and you know full rebuild
you're watching in Tennessee. I think a full rebuild is
a three or four year process. So, for being honest,
if everything breaks right for the Raiders, who have a
ton of money to spend, this year. In the offseason,
they're gonna draft a quarterback, I think with the first
or second overall pick, no matter how that comes down.
They're gonna have a new quarterback. They're gonna have a
new coach. They're gonna start this development process. Okay, even
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if you go above the ahead of all of this,
Max is gonna be thirty one or thirty two before
the Raiders even get to the point where they can
take advantage of Max. So if he wants to go
play somewhere else, by God, he's earned the right to
go do that win some football games, the Raiders won't
be able to take advantage of the meat of his
greatness in my opinion, because, frankly, as I've said to
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you before, a couple of years ago, Max was one
of the league leaders in sacks, Josh Jacobs led the
league in rushing, DeVante had a thousand yards receiving, and
the Raiders won six games. Max Crosby is otherworldly and
the Raiders are gonna win two games. The Raiders at
some point have to figure out how to win enough
to reward Max for ever everything he does, and the
only way that they do that is a massive long
(29:04):
term rebuild. I think everybody needs to understand that if
this rebuild is done the right way, if it's done
at a home run level, I think the best possible
scenario next year is the Raiders win six games, and
the year after that they win eight or nine games,
and then they're on the precipice of something. And if
you're gonna waste that much of Max, by god, if
he wants to play somewhere else, let him. And if
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he doesn't, and if at the twilight of his career
he's finally playing on a winner, Holy hell, that worked
out for everybody. That's why, Weirdly, I don't think that
there's any wrong answer for Max. Let Max do what
he wants to do, play where he wants to play,
honor that that way, it's still a win win for
the Raiders.
Speaker 4 (29:42):
You say that I know what a rebuild looks like
because of the team that I cover on a daily basis,
But I FITZI they tried their damness not to do
it when on several occasions, and listen, this is a
fair criticism of Mike Ribal.
Speaker 3 (29:57):
At the time, Mike Ribel didn't want to.
Speaker 4 (30:00):
Have anything that looked remotely like a rebuild or retooling
or whatever other than to be as competitive as humanly
possible while he was still the head coach of the Titans,
and so that resulted in what his final season, they
were six and eleven and winning games. That didn't help
their draft position, but whatever. Like, the goal is always
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to win games, and so you're not going to put
out a product that would be anything less than what
your standard is on that front, which I respect on
the part of coaches and players. Of course, when they
step out on that field, that's the only thing that matters,
and that should be the only thing that matters top
to bottom organizationally. But it did kind of keep them
in this situation where they were still trying to Ryan
(30:40):
Tannehill their way through things at the end when that
was clearly a lost cause and the team around Tannehill
had depreciated to the point where he was no longer
functioning at a high level. And since then he's not
officially retired, but he sure as hell hasn't been, you know,
Philip riversing out there back into the mix at any
point in time. He hasn't been one of these veterans
quarterbacks that come that's come back into the spotlight for
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whatever reason due to injury, and then again in the
absence of Mike Vrabel, they spent all manner of money
on Calvin Ridley and Lagerious Need and Kenneth Murray and
cheetoh Ouzia and Lloyd Cushion Berry huge contracts. Not one
of them has panned out in any meaningful way. They
lit what was it, one hundred and twenty eight million
(31:27):
dollars worth of caps are contract dollars on fire in
that acquisition. In the to build around Will Levis to
kind of, you know, try and do a version of
what I think the Saints are going to try and
do in twenty twenty six, which is built around a
flyer of a second round pike at quarterback that might
actually have something to work with, except you feel better
(31:47):
about Tyler Shuck, and you did Will Levis at the time.
It took them until this year to actually do the
real rebuilding thing. And that's only because ownership had her
hand forced. So it's one thing to say it, and
you're right, there is a win win proposition to be
had in that particular situation, But you also have to
get the most important people involved with the organization, the
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people that own the organization to actually commit and stick
with the plan. And that is so much easier said
than done.
Speaker 2 (32:13):
The biggest mistake in sports is not paying elite money
to average talent. You hear that all the time. The
biggest mistake in sports is not looking in the mirror
and admitting where you are. And I cannot scream this
loud enough, Like it's okay. Sometimes in life you wake
up one day and you look in the mirror and
you're like, man, I got fat. I got really fat.
(32:34):
Now I don't know how I got so fat, right,
And then immediately you're like, well, I'll fix it, okay,
that to do it the right way. Like we live
in an Ozempic society, and you can have a year
on the Ozmpic Society, like you can be the Washington Commanders,
and like Jaden Daniels plays out of his mind and
your way ahead of the curve and suddenly everything feels great.
Let's see where we are on the Patriots who have
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had a weird schedule this year. Let's see if this
is sustainable before we can convince ourselves that everything is
fixed in New England. I don't know, I just know
that the way the only real way to truly fix
things is to actually do the right things day in
and day out and watch the slow process of changing
your body to your point. I talked to Raheem Moster,
who most people don't even realize is on the Raiders
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roster in week two of this season, and he told
me when I was interviewed on for y'ahoo Sports, he said,
I've never played for a team before that thought they
could rebuild and win at the same time. But the
Raiders believe they can do that this year that was
their fatal mistake. I think bad teams need to look
in the mirror. I've told you this before. Owners need
to step up to the podium and tell fans, hey,
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we suck, and we suck because I haven't done a
very good job and the only way we're going to
get better is if we take the time to rebuild.
So I'm asking you to give me three or four years.
We're going to rip this thing down to the studs
and we're going to rebuild it. So success is going
to look different. We're not going to compete for a
championship this year, but we are going to get this
roster better every single day, and if it breaks faster, awesome.
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I think that's what teams have to do. If you're
making first, second, third, fourth in the draft, you suck.
Nobody's gonna do it. But I think the only way
that you can actually work around you pick a quarterback first.
Overall fine, then you got to start the process of
building an entire roster around them. Admitting that you suck
and that you need a full rebuild is the one
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thing that teams aren't willing to do, and not doing
it is the biggest mistake in sports. The biggest mistake
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It's easy, guys, too hard? Would you rather, Buckety, it's
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rather do. Very complicated concept. But what do you got for?
Speaker 8 (36:07):
Would you guys rather only be able to communicate through
motivational gym quotes or only through passive aggressive emails?
Speaker 3 (36:15):
Oh? Passive aggressive emails? That's how I communicate now, Now
that would require to look for me to look at.
Speaker 4 (36:20):
My email as opposed to sending passive aggressive text. But yeah,
anything that involves me being passive aggressive, I'll take that pass.
Speaker 2 (36:28):
Yeah, I'm an unpassive aggressive. That is by far the
right answer on that one, mostly because I know, to
Buck's point, I'm not going to check it, or when
I do check it, it's three in the morning, and
I've had, like, you know, enough edibles that I'll laugh
at your passive aggressiveness and then I'll come back with
more passive aggressiveness, which.
Speaker 4 (36:42):
By the way, ignoring the emails further is just an
additional layer of passive aggressiveness.
Speaker 2 (36:48):
I absolutely love everything about this, Bo. What do you
got for our next one?
Speaker 8 (36:53):
This one actually made me physically cringe when I read it.
Would you rather have to explain TikTok trends to your
grandparents for or have them explain Facebook memes to you forever.
Speaker 3 (37:03):
No.
Speaker 2 (37:04):
Oh, I kind of love the idea of having Facebook
memes explained to me by my grandparents, so that I
can get their perspective on exactly what they find humorous
about it. Yeah. Plus, I get really frustrated, Like I'm
patient as a listener, I am frustrated as an explainer
when my point doesn't get received quick enough. I'm like,
what I speak for a little way, like, what are
(37:26):
you not figuring out here? I have made this very clear,
and I don't want me mom papa to have that.
Not that either of my grandparents alive, but that would
be my answer buck where are you? Oh?
Speaker 4 (37:37):
I still have one grandparent alive, and I would hate
to be to even think about the idea of becoming
annoyed with her when she tries to explain to me
her Facebook trends. So I would rather take the time
to explain to her TikTok trends rather than be bothered
by what the old people are doing on Facebook.
Speaker 2 (37:52):
I just love the idea.
Speaker 3 (37:54):
The hell is still using Facebook?
Speaker 2 (37:56):
My mom? The leading Facebook was one of the joyful
things that I did in my life several years ago.
It is just absolutely it is electric to not know
how anyone what are.
Speaker 4 (38:05):
People doing on Facebook other than buying things in Facebook marketplace?
Speaker 3 (38:09):
I'm confused.
Speaker 8 (38:10):
I can tell you my mom is reading things that
make her upset and then telling me what she saw
on Facebook that made her upset. And then when I
tell her, like, just delete the app, she says, But
I don't want to people on Facebook.
Speaker 2 (38:22):
I've got yeah, I don't want to know my friends
that well, like I don't. I don't really care about
what any of you think about politics. I just don't,
So you know, I like we got rid of I
got rid of knowing anything religion politics related based on
any of my friends. I like my friends, morna, I
don't go would you guys? Uh?
Speaker 5 (38:40):
Would you?
Speaker 2 (38:41):
Would you guys?
Speaker 8 (38:41):
Rather, every song you hear be replaced with the NFL
on Fox theme or every conversation you have end with
And that's why Tom Brady's the goat.
Speaker 5 (38:51):
Hmmm, well contextualize say the first one again?
Speaker 3 (38:56):
Bo, if you would uh?
Speaker 8 (38:58):
Every song you hear is re placed by the wonderful
NFL on Fox theme.
Speaker 4 (39:03):
It's not nothing against the NFL on Fox day. But
I do like music, so I need a little variety
in my life. I'd probably end every conversation with That's
why Tom Brady's to goat.
Speaker 2 (39:13):
But every time somebody says that, it would just make
my blood boil and I would be reminded of the
Tuck rule. So I will take the NFL on Fox
all day every day. That's an easy one, very easy.
Like I'll get used to one song and I'll sing
it stylistically. I'll just walk around the house and humme
it like it's mine. What do you got?
Speaker 8 (39:32):
Would you, guys, rather be famous for something that you
didn't do or be rich for something deeply embarrassing?
Speaker 3 (39:38):
No?
Speaker 2 (39:38):
Rich? Look, I mean I don't there's no such thing
as embarrassing. Whatever you are offering, like whatever you are
asking me to do on a YouTube live and I
mean whatever, if it has the right payday on it,
it's cool. Me Ma can watch that on Facebook. I
don't care as long as there's enough cash on it.
So like correct, Yeah, but we are both.
Speaker 3 (39:57):
Were also for sale. I like money.
Speaker 2 (40:05):
We just learned so much about ourselves that we already
should have known. Absolutely wild. Hey, we appreciate you guys
spending the last four hours hanging out with us. It
is always a blast to get to do this. Certainly,
stick around more Fox Sports Radio all night. We'll see
in a couple of days
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