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June 7, 2025 40 mins

Jason Smith explains how NBA teams will copycat the Pacers playoff success next year. A fan at the Giants - Braves game threw their own baseball onto the field in the middle of a play. And Aaron Rodgers is putting up empty stats at this point in his career!

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:23):
You're listening to Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 1 (00:29):
Fox Sports Radio. Welcome inside, fine all hour tonight of
the show. Already and I did the week is flown by?

Speaker 2 (00:37):
It's flown by. You ready for Halliburton tomorrow night? Ty Shirt? Yes? Yes?
What team does he play on? Pacers? Yes? Very good,
Thank you, very good. Did Frostburg whisper that to you?

Speaker 3 (00:49):
No? Okay, wait wait Jason, are you excited for the
game tomorrow?

Speaker 2 (00:54):
No? No, not really no, because it's Sunday. Well, you know,
I had this weekend. I'm at this weekend. Yeah, there's
like seven days off in between the finals game.

Speaker 3 (01:02):
It is.

Speaker 2 (01:03):
Well, look that that's you know, that's that's how it goes.
Now in the final they got to get the ratings up,
you know, Game wait a couple of days, Game two,
we wait four days Game three. We wait, we get
to build up the legend of Halliburton. Yeah, he's the
greatest thing there ever was blurt. We'll get to the
Pacers in a second. But uh, because I'll tell you
exactly the effect this Pacers team is going to have

(01:25):
on the NBA for next year. I can already see
the copycat thing the teams are going to say, Okay,
we are taking this from the Pacers and we're seeing
if we could do it ourselves. The mediocre in the
regular season, when we get to fifty wins, we get
to fifty wins, we just stop. All right, we stop
at fifty. It's all we need to make the playoffs,
that's all we need to go. But seriously, I mean this,

(01:46):
this Stanley Cup Final between the Panthers and the Oilers.
Brad Marshan scores in overtime. I mean, what can you say?
He had the shorthanded goal to gi him the lead
in the second period. Now he has the breakaway goal
in overtime to win, and an phenomenal move with when
when Dreysidel is coming at him from the side, he
puts the puck on his backhand, on his strong and
it's a strong shot. That eludes Skinner, first player to

(02:08):
ever do that in the Stanley Cup Final shorthanded and
then breakaway in overtime. I really I want this to
be a seven game series. We talked about, great it's
gonna be. This is so incredibly deflating. You're going from
the Oilers tying this game with seventeen seconds left in regulation.
Corey Perry scores when the Oilers had an empty net

(02:28):
for the final three and a half minutes of this game. Right,
they're at home, they tie the game, they go to overtime,
and the place is going crazy. We're gonna win, and
to have this pulled out from under you and the
Panthers win. They're so dominant at home. Now they get
to go back to Florida after this, two more games
at home at this point, I'm gonna say Panthers in five. Well,

(02:51):
but think of also the ramifications of what could have
been right, how quickly it could have been all right,
season's over right based on that goal with seventeen seconds
left to tie it. I mean, oftentimes you just see, okay,
that's that's it. That and how many series, how many
games have we seen, regardless of sport, where you have
that one instance that just takes all the wind out

(03:14):
of your sales. Uh, and you're you're lucky to get
yourself back together to give a competent effort to let
next time out, let alone get a w How many
times just you pack it in so to come back
and get the win in dobt Absolutely huge. I know
a lot of folks are salty. You know my family

(03:35):
down in Florida. Sure, mom probably wasn't up for the
final U. So I have to call and wait at
the television set. Well, one's harboring any pet rats? Of
course I meant the real one. What else do you
throw after panthers win? It's a pet rat. Gummy rats

(03:55):
became a big thing all those years ago, gummy anything,
and it became a all right, you got this, you
got this. He's like, now the rats? How they making rats? Yeah? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (04:04):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (04:05):
The moms? How about brad more Chan's mom?

Speaker 1 (04:07):
Oh yeah, she's going you're gonna say speaking how about that?

Speaker 2 (04:11):
Like like like potential, Like okay, you mention it. But
like that video, I couldn't.

Speaker 1 (04:16):
Tell if there was doctor or not where it looked
like it was from New York where it looked like it.

Speaker 2 (04:20):
Was a squirrel rat like a squirrel and a rat. Yeah,
and it was a squirrel rat around called the scout.
Like was that how you know if that was real?
I'm like, could that really happen? Like I can see that.
I could see it because you know, rats get life
finds away. I can see it. Man, But like, wow,
God teaches that that is a that's a that's a scat,

(04:41):
nature finds away. That's a that's a squo rot. It's
a rural, a rural. Are you gonna start talking about
the n rual jor the road and in a sequel
urban fervor? So? I mean, this is so hard. Panthers

(05:01):
are so good at home. It's so hard. This is
gonna be I mean it's it's three to one going
back to Edmonton like that. And how many TVs are
broken in Boston watching Oh you can't it? Yeah, all
of them, all of them. That was our guy, all
of them, all of them, and we let him go.
I can't believe that. Bro Quimby.

Speaker 3 (05:17):
Now it's just the two Superman gifts where they're pointing
out each other.

Speaker 2 (05:20):
Yes, it's Haliburton and Brad marg In. No, no, or
it's or its the wolverineer. He's looking at the picture
and the pictures of Brad Marchhan and mich ninety seven.

Speaker 1 (05:31):
That was so yesterday. Man, we won tonight. I want
Lindor to be m v P after tonight. Broken toe
pinships in the ninth, then need to run double mets,
win four two Consolin pitches like forty an hour. You
did it on purpose. I get, of course he did.
I get to break the windows of your car. You
know what the best part is deserved it what you
are coming. You broke his toe, I break the windows.

(05:56):
By the way, he ran with a pretty good gait
after the game. So I'm not buying the broken toe.
It's still a broken toe that I got a nugget a.

Speaker 2 (06:02):
Broad gonna you break my toe, I break your car.
You broke one toe indoors. I break for your windows,
break your car four windows four. This is what happens, Frostburg.

Speaker 1 (06:17):
This is what happens when you break it on the
man short stops toe.

Speaker 2 (06:21):
This is what happened. I've read a thing where they
they said Goodman was having problems with it, potentially disturbing
the neighborhood. When he was gonna smash the windows so
they paid everybody to go just go somewhere else. Oh really,
I didn't know that put them up in hotels, everybody
on that block. Okay, that's pretty cool.

Speaker 3 (06:38):
Speaking of The Big Lebowski, you realize that poster you
gave me years ago, Jason, Yeah, you know that's an original.

Speaker 2 (06:44):
Yeah, it's a nice one, right, Yeah, it's worth it's
worth a lot. Like what's it worth? If you had
known that, you probably wouldn't have game Big Lebowski.

Speaker 3 (06:53):
It's actually an original? Is that a Double Sider movie poster?
This is actually from the movie company. This is a
it's I looked it up. Okay, I probably should have
kept it.

Speaker 2 (07:04):
Wow. How much is it worth? More than your life? Okay? Wow?
Than your life? Okay?

Speaker 1 (07:10):
What I can find on the internet is one hundred
and forty five dollars. Like I said, is it more
than that? More than your life? Okay, it's more than that. Okay,
I had it looked at.

Speaker 3 (07:23):
Okay, Oh really, Wow, you got this from the guy
that works at the movie company.

Speaker 2 (07:28):
Yeah, okay, So how much is it worth? I can't
tell you? Why can't you because you're gonna want to
back I gave it to you. It's yours. I gave
it to you. Let's just say I put it in
a better frame. Okay, all right, very good, Okay, now
that's good. That's good.

Speaker 1 (07:44):
See that's a movie plot line where someone gets that
and someone breaks into their house.

Speaker 2 (07:48):
To take that, to take that back. Oh, I gotta
get that back from Frostburg. And I'm putting on like
a sche mask. I'm going to get it. That's called
Trends and Neighbors on Apple TV. I mean, I see
one up for sale for twelve fifty okay, says that one?

Speaker 1 (08:05):
Oh wow, okay, all right, yeah here it is vintage
original the Big Lebowski Theater movie poster roll, double sided.

Speaker 2 (08:11):
Oh five hundred bucks on eBay. Yeah it is.

Speaker 3 (08:14):
That's not one of the originals from the actual movie.

Speaker 2 (08:18):
Come it's not the original. Okay.

Speaker 1 (08:23):
All I can say is then get the Missala welcome. Okay,
that's great. Don't say there did anything for you.

Speaker 2 (08:28):
No, you can't have it back. No, I don't want
it back. I want to be in the will. You're
not in the the win out of the will, but
I don't want to be in the will. I'm out
of the ups. You know what you shouldn't bargain for
what's that? No more duck rivers. Yeah, yeah, you can
have it back if that's a good it's not worth
that much. Now, look the pay was we get ready
for Game three Sunday this week Sunday. Yeah, the rest

(08:50):
of the rest of the time, the NBA is good
to play on Saturday. But when when we get to
the finals, we got to play on Sundays. So what
impact are the Pacers team? Is this pace team gonna
have on the NBA for next year? Right? What are
we seeing? Because there is a big takeaway that I
guarantee you teams are looking at right now saying this
is what we need. We need to see if we

(09:11):
can do this. Not everybody's gonna be able to, but
you see, but you but the biggest thing for the
Pacers that you can take because not because obviously you
can't just say, oh, we need a point guard like Halliburton, No,
you have that.

Speaker 1 (09:21):
But what the Pacers have made a cottage industry of
is what comebacks in the final minutes.

Speaker 2 (09:26):
Right, They've made a big cottage industry. Why have they
been able to do that because basically they're five starters
more than that, really you know, all their rotation players,
they can all hit threes, all of them. And yes,
this is an NBA where guys do hit threes now
and you know, but mainly you have a couple of
guys on your team that can hit threes as their specialty.

(09:48):
Nobody else is really you know, spotting up from behind
the arc.

Speaker 1 (09:52):
But the Pacers, they usually have five guys on the
floor at any time. They can all hit threes. You
can't guard everybody, So you're gonna get the Miles Turner
is gonna be open.

Speaker 3 (10:03):
Now.

Speaker 1 (10:03):
The Pacers are on an incredible run of all our
guys are making enough of like they're shooting near fifty
percent from three point range right, So they're on this
run where all their guys are making them. But this
is because these guys all can and defensively you can't
match up when you know, when Nie Smith can make
threes and Denmark can make threes, these guys will take
four or five threes a game.

Speaker 2 (10:24):
It's really hard to defend when teams can do that.
And the Pacers are showing you that no deficit is
too much. When anybody can do three, it's not always well,
we got to get the ball to Steph because Steph's
a guy that's gonna hit a three. Well, if not Steph,
then it's Clay. But you know, Draymond's not gonna hit
a three, and so and so is not gonn hit
a three. No, teams are as deep from three as
the pacers are. All these guys can hit them. Now again, they're.

Speaker 1 (10:47):
All doing I mean, it's an unbelievable magic carpet ride
run because they all are hitting them.

Speaker 2 (10:52):
But they all can. That's the thing. It's not like
you're getting guys shooting three as well. This guy get
no Obi Toppin can it threes? Right?

Speaker 1 (10:58):
This is happening. This is part of what they do.
So teams are gonna say, all right when they look
to when they look to fix their bench, when they
look for support players, or they get and you know what,
this is what we're gonna focus on this year is
making sure our guys are better from behind the arc.
And it's some way in camp and in the offseason.
Let's focus on being able to need you to be

(11:19):
able to hit more threes. Let's focus on our guys
doing that. We'll incorporate that in the offense more of
the end of games we're not gonna be as far
down because anybody can hit them.

Speaker 2 (11:27):
When you're down.

Speaker 1 (11:28):
Seven or nine with fifty seconds left to go, it's
not suddenly, well, let's let our three points specialist to
one of two guys try to get a shot off
because they're gonna have two defenders on them. It's gonna
be a bad shot, it's gonna clang off the rim,
and the defensive team's gonna get the rebound and that's it.
Instead it's well, hey, we're comfortable with any of these
guys taking a three because they can all make them.
That's gonna be a strategy that team are gonna say, Okay,

(11:50):
let's try to get one through seven to one through
eight of guys that can make Now, no, not everybody
can do it, but that's gonna be the big copycat
from this NBA playoff with the Pacers have shown every
buddy that team's gonna try to incorporate.

Speaker 2 (12:01):
Yeah, because I enjoyed the little analogy we made yesterday
of the idea of when the old public speaking course
and how did you get over well, you know, hey,
picturem in their underwear. Same thing here it was in
the fourth quarter, making a lot of shots. Picture them
there that they're the Knicks defenders. They're not closing out
quite as fast as you would think they are based

(12:22):
on the defensive metrics and history of the Thunder and
all those makes seven more makes than the Thunder did yesterday.
And as we talked with Rick Buker about it, he
brought up the idea of, you know, the ceiling and
the floor. For the Pacers, the floor was thirty three
to thirty four percent, right, Mattherin was a thirty four

(12:44):
point thirty four percent three point makes during the regular season,
whereas for the the Thunder, their ceiling was Chet Holmgren
at thirty three and change. Right. So you're going through
all the starters from Nie at that forty three percent,
Walker at forty percent, Turner at thirty nine, and just
keep on going down the line that you're hitting at

(13:06):
a higher clip, and so you have the ability to
hang around. You also have the depth to where you
can spell guys minutes. You've got fresh legs, spring in
the step, spring to get to the edge and set
up your offense and play defensive basketball. In the final mens,
because they did a good job closing out Oklahoma City

(13:27):
in the fourth quarter. We saw the number of misses
they had trying to match some of those three point
shots wide open and not being able to hit consistently
to open the door. And look, they didn't take our
business of the first half, because that's the other part
of it. But that goes back to good transition defense
on the pacer side. But your point's well taken because

(13:49):
we've seen more and more big men trying to implement
that and make it part of their games, some with
great obviously much greater success than others, because sometimes it's
absolutely ugly. All so helps when the basketball gods lower
g are on your side. Miles Turner grabs one yesterday
and throws up a very awkward looking thing that hits

(14:10):
the backboard at one of the weirder angles you'll see
for a bank shot, but it counts just the same.
So it's a strategy to be curious to see how
many teams can try to implement it, or how many
teams have players that it's like, all right, we have
to trust you the mid range game, because you keep thinking,

(14:30):
at some point, because of the success of OKAC, that
perhaps you'd start looking at that a little bit more right, SGA,
and where he does most of his dirty work and
some of the other stars in the league versus all right,
let's extend it back out like we watched your guy
Porzingis do Yannis. At times if he has a hot hand,
it's like, all right, it's a thing of beauty. Sometimes

(14:52):
it's say, all right, make sure you bring your hard
hat to work. But philosophically, you know, the analytics say
more three point shots? Right, how many did the same
uh Celtics shoot up what sixty a game? So more
teams working those analytics. I don't know if it's great aesthetically,
but when it works, it's winning basketball.

Speaker 1 (15:12):
Exit out about a Fresca exit swallen dome. Five guys
on the court, they're going at threes. That's what teams
are gonna be. Five guys, five guys.

Speaker 2 (15:18):
Obie top and thirty six point five percent. I know, Jason, Yeah,
what do you got for frostber? What's popping? What's popping?
Oh be topping? Oh boy? Exit up? About a Fresca
exit swollen dome. Jason Smith Mike Garvin live from the
Fox Sports Radio studios, coming up next. You know, I
always credit MLB Insider reporter Jason Stark and will be.

(15:40):
I think he's in the Broadcasting Hall of Fame of Major.

Speaker 1 (15:43):
League I believe that's true with one of the great
most accurate quotes of any sport ever. They've been playing
Major League Baseball for one hundred and thirty years and
still once a week you say, I've never seen that before.
The latest example on that coming next. Wait till you
hear it Jason and Mike Fox.

Speaker 2 (16:05):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern seven
pm Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app
Fox Sports Radio to Friday night. Get jacked up about it?

Speaker 1 (16:21):
Come on, I just don like those scenes from Dead
to me, Like every time I hear a thrashod like this,
I just picture Christina.

Speaker 2 (16:27):
Applegate in the car and she just bits thrasherhead. Listen
to the thrash music. Whence you get so mad? Uh?

Speaker 1 (16:36):
Legend we mentioned Jason Star a few minutes ago. Guy
I've talked to plenty of times, had him on shows.
Now it's just too late for him. I reached out
when we started doing the show. He goes, Oh, it's
a little too late. For me, I said, Node to
completely understand. We talk once in a while on social media,
and he says, you know the best thing you know.
I mean, look everybody looking for their dark side of
the moon affecting it. He has said something that will

(16:56):
live forever and he and he has said this on
many occasions. He had said, baseball has been played for
one hundred and thirty years, and at least once a
week something happens where you say, I've never seen that before.
A game that looks so incredibly similar. If you're looking
at video for game from nineteen ten versus twenty ten
versus twenty twenty four, you see that's baseball. But it's

(17:17):
a long time because the players still said players are
playing the same spot.

Speaker 2 (17:21):
On the field.

Speaker 1 (17:22):
The field looks the same that you see football games. Boy,
that doesn't look like a football game. Boy, basketball, that's
kind of weird, but baseball looks the same. That is timeless,
but still one hundred and thirty hundred and forty years.
You get stuff we've never seen before. This is from
tonight's Giants win over the Braves. Right, Giants lead this
game three nothing. Braves are gonna get their first run
on the board courtesy of a sacrifice fly.

Speaker 2 (17:45):
However, that's not the only ball in the picture.

Speaker 4 (17:48):
On this play, the boffs will do that line drives
to right. Yas has got it. He's coming in. Here's
the throw home. It is not a time and where
did the other ball come from? Came out of the
upper deck. Some a clown through the baseball on the field.

Speaker 1 (18:10):
I have never seen that, uh NBC Sports Bay Area.
On the call, you see the throw coming into the
plate and all of a sudden, as the ball is
basically arriving at the plates, whoever threw it timed it
really well, like the ball is arriving at the plate
the same time a baseball lands in between home plate

(18:31):
and the pitchers mount and then it bounces. Now, it
didn't hit anybody, luckily, and it bounced safely away. But
I can't believe that that someone threw a baseball onto
the field while that while that was coming down. I've
never as you heard, I've never seen that before. Part
of me things, I can't believe it didn't happen before.
But I understand now this is why they don't have

(18:51):
ball Day at you know, at ballparks.

Speaker 2 (18:54):
They used to have some bad incidents with that. They
don't do it anymore. Yeah, bad, bad day because we
used to get full size bats. Wait, at one point,
I remember the Eric Sodder home Yeah White Sox bat
the Dell Milk logo on. Yeah that day. Man, it's
bad days the best nowadays, no chance. You can't even
get a mini bat at the sessions, like at the
Souvenir stand. I don't think you can get sell those.

(19:15):
And no, they don't do Disco Demolition night anymore. Well,
I mean that was the one and done. Sure some
might have agreed with the sentiment, just not the execution.
Cause the White Sox to forfeit a game. Yeah, I
know it's okay Steve Dalls, Harry Myers, right Indians? Uh,
but I mean you see it the Vince Like, I

(19:35):
just go what happened? And at first I thought, did
he catch the wrong ball?

Speaker 5 (19:39):
Right?

Speaker 2 (19:40):
George the yeah, like did he catch the wrong ball?
And then how because what wait? Where did that ball cut?
Where did it end up? Like that's an insane play.
I I hopefully the guy got thrown out because I mean,
I mean, dude, come on, man, that could that could
really hurt somebody talking about a ball coming down and
hitting somebody like I hit somebody on the head, Like
that's that's that's real. You really, boy, I mean you

(20:01):
can see the umpire kind of sees it. Yeah, as
he's turning back towards the play at the plate and
just this moment of confusion, Kruco obviously loses his mind.

Speaker 3 (20:12):
Some clown in the upper I mean, there's half the
teams in baseball can use an outfielder with an arm
like that.

Speaker 2 (20:17):
The Mets don'll throw home like that. No, they don't know,
not at all. No, that was better than Nemo. Ah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
he's no Conforta. It's a twister. It's a twister. Nobody's
conforta man.

Speaker 3 (20:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (20:32):
But no, as you say from the Jason Stark line, though,
things you don't think you've ever seen. And I'm trying
to rack my brain of what's the nearest thing, I mean,
other than you know, fans coming out of the stands
and accosting a first base coach. Check. Yeah, we've seen
guys dive over the railing on balls hit down the line.

(20:53):
That's fine. Yeah, we've seen that. You know, momentum carries
them over in front of the ball. Boy ball girl whatever,
and they found themselves escort. We've seen numerous fights. I
haven't seen this one. No, No, I haven't seen it.
I hope we don't see it again. No, I hope
we don't see it again. Are players going to be

(21:14):
discouraged from throwing the baseballs into the crowd because because
you could buy baseballs like you could buy baseballs in
the in the no forty bucks a pop. Now, well,
I don't know if it's that much. I don't think
it were just buy it regular baseball, Yeah, regular logo,
major League Baseball's like. No, I meant you can go
in and buy like the replica with the team stamp

(21:36):
name on, the logo on it and stuff and just
buy it from I have no idea what those riding.
I don't. I never trafficked in those. But it's just
the idea that do you have to change up the
souvenirs that Wait, the way you say that makes it
sound like I'm involved in a lot of illegal crap, man,
But I don't even want to tell you about it
because you wouldn't believe it. I just decided it was
a better term than I never sold. I got a

(21:59):
lot of Alleague crowd. No, not at all, not at all.
I don't just sell stuff out of the back of
a truck. I got a big thing going off. Wow,
casting his spurseons once again. Hey you're an entrepreneurial spirit Harmon. Yeah,
you must be up to no good. So how is
the Aaron Rodgers year in Pittsburgh going to end? Eight

(22:21):
and a half wins? The big point of Rogers situation
today after Green yesterday to play this year for the
Steelers is that their reports that Rogers could have been
looking for a two year deal if he wanted to
continue to play, but the Steelers clearly would give him
a two year deal. They were you know, they were

(22:41):
desperate because they did they don't know what they're doing
with the quarterback position. So okay, But the fact that
Rogers the signing for just one year, there's a few
insiders saying that this is his last. I want to
play this year and that's it.

Speaker 1 (22:53):
And clearly it looks like he's done right. We talked
about it last hour off the field. The big concern
for me would be is.

Speaker 2 (23:00):
He still as zoomed in and owned in on being
a football star and being a great quarterback as he
was a couple of years ago, because clearly it doesn't
seem that way, like I'm okay, I'll throw it out
there for one more year because I think I want
embarrass myself. And who knows, maybe we'll catch lightning in
a bottom. So what the Steelers and Rodgers both thinking,
who knows, who knows? Maybe he'll be great, maybe it

(23:21):
won't be. I don't know who knows. But this year
I'll tell you how this year is going to go,
and it's got to do it. Two quarterbacks, Tim Tebow
and Russell Wilson. Oh Tebow because the impact that Aaron.

Speaker 1 (23:32):
Rodgers will have off the field as far as discussion, relevancy, eyeballs,
interest in seeing the Steelers play, that will dwarf what
his actual impact on the field is going to be.
Right like Tebow, the image of him, the impact of
him off the field, the conversation, the relevancy, all of it,

(23:53):
that dwarf what his actual impact on the field was.
There was no real proportion between the amount of attention
and time spent on and what he did on the field.
Same thing's gonna be for Aaron Rodgers, because I'll tell
you what his year is gonna look a lot like
Russell Wilson's last did last year with the Steelers. He'll
have his moments because.

Speaker 2 (24:12):
Rogers is not clearly done to the point where hey,
you're embarrassing yourself when you're out there. Right, last year
with the Jets, he clearly wasn't healthy enough until we
got to the latter part of the season, But at
that point it really didn't matter. He put up some stats,
threw the ball well, but didn't really affect games. The
Jets were playing teams that were didn't have a lot
to play for and they still couldn't win games. Right,

(24:32):
He wound up top ten quarterback, top ten yardage. Okay,
But like Kevin Durant, and we've talked about his impact
on the game, Kevin Durant scores still, but he doesn't
really impact teams from a winning and playoff perspective because
he hasn't done that in six years. Right, The Nets
have been terrible when they had him, They couldn't do anything.
The Suns has been even more of a disaster. That's
kind of Rogers, right. His impact, Yes, stats will be there,

(24:54):
but is he leading you to wins? No, he's not
that guy. He still throws too much off his back foot,
doesn't have the arm strength, still little bit skittish in
the pocket, all of these things. But he'll still have
his moments because he's Aaron Rodgers. He had his moments
last year, just like Russell Wilson had some moments last
year when he first came in and took over quarterback.
But eventually Rogers, the age, the lack of mobility, the

(25:17):
lack of armstrength, everything is gonna catch up with him.
And the big question in December is gonna be can
you bench Rogers for the end of his career and
go to Will Howard or do you ride it out
with him so you're not the team that benched Aaron
Rodgers down the stretch Like, that's where I feel the
conversation's gonna go. Because he's not good enough to lead

(25:38):
the Steelers back to the playoffs, because everything is a
bad fit. Him and Mike Tomlin are gonna clash immensely, right,
He and Arthur Smith's are gonna clash immensely because Arthur
Smith's offense is not what Aaron Rodgers does. He doesn't
have the playmakers even had last year with the Jets,
he had better guys. Last year when he had Garrett Wilson,
they made the trade for DeVante Adams. Oh he got Breeest. Okay,

(26:00):
our offensive line is pretty good. We can put it there.
He doesn't even have those guys. Now, it doesn't even
have it. How is this going to go well? And
Rogers eventually is gonna hit the wall because in his
early forties, again not knowing how committed to the team,
he is learning a new offense even the beginning of
the season, like he'd been with the Jets in that
offense for a year and a half and still by
the time he got on the field beginning of last year,

(26:21):
he's throwing behind guys. He's throwing the guys. He's a
little bit nervous. They're coming at they're not even out
of their break yet, and the ball is at the
at their feet. You're like, why is Rogers throwing that way?
Do you not want to get hit? You got to
wait for the guy to actually make his break. I'm
throwing the ball to early. We're not in the same page.
Mike Williams not running on the red line down the field.
He's running the run with the wrong spot. Like this
is how it's gonna go with the Steelers and it's

(26:43):
gonna get to that point. Russell Wilson had that awful
run at the end of the year, but luckily they
had won enough game, so well, okay, we're gonna make
a change, but this is not even gonna be enough
for that. And by December, the question's gonna be, really,
will Mike Tomlin go to Will Howard or Bason Rudolph
if you know, depends unless Will Howard just doesn't, you know,
come along and doesn't really progress. Will he bench Aaron

(27:04):
Rodgers to try to win more football games at the
end of the year depending on this dealer's record, where
they're like, that's the December conversation I'll tell you we're
going to have because that's how this season's gonna go
for Aaron Rodgers. Yeah, and the over under set at
eight and a half and that was already baked in,
so you didn't see any movement once they finally made
this announcement because it was presumed all along. You look

(27:27):
at the receiving corps. You got a couple of young
guys along with DK Metcalf coming in in Friar Mooth.
We'll see if they actually can pull off the trade
for Johnny Smith. They have a lot of trade, a
lot of draft assets for twenty twenty six that they
could certainly dangle out there, and especially if Miami is
truly in the shuffle up and deal in tank mode,

(27:49):
as we've talked about earlier in the week. Grab the
podcast downloaded, give it five stars of ANGELI send a friends, family,
all that fun stuff. Here's Jerry Dulac of the Pittsburgh
Post Gazette. I figured you would like this one quote.
Give the Steelers credit. They have signed two starting quarterbacks
who are future Hall of Famers for less than twenty
million dollars total. Name another organization to pull that off.

(28:13):
I can't now. This has fifty two thousand views, five
hundred twenty nine likes, forty six retweets, and one hundred
and twenty comments, many of which asking just the terms
of the deal, like you're missing the whole point. Man, Yes,
two future Hall of famers who are not those guys

(28:34):
when they put on their uniform. Now you're hoping that
because you were still kept the streaky streak alive for
Mike Tomlin in the last couple of years with no
quarterback play, that Rogers is a step ahead Arago, you
find your way towards the playoffs and maybe dare I
say a playoff win because there aren't many of those

(28:55):
from Mike Tomlin in recent memory. Right, So it's wishing
it hoping. The offensive line is not very good. That's
the one part of the squad that really is an
issue that stands out. You got a great defense, they'll
be ready to go backfield, solid and go on. But
the offensive line and keeping him up right, you say, hey,

(29:16):
he was there the year and a half and didn't
have the timing. Remember his leg was broken after four plays,
so he didn't exactly get to traverse the field with them.
So but look better down the stretch thirty nine hundred
yards twenty eight and eleven. Finally, so for Pittsburgh hopes
not a strategy, as we've talked about for a very

(29:36):
very long time, exit out about a Fresca exit Swallen Dome.
It's not gonna end pretty. That's how this season's gonna
go for Aaron Rodgers and the divisions of pain in
the ass.

Speaker 1 (29:45):
Let's just call it what it is. Let's find out
what's trending in the wide world of sports. But guy
who's been called the Aaron Rodgers a Fox Sports Radio,
don't you dare? It's because on Friday night he likes
to go out and look for extraterrestrials. It's it's Steve
to say.

Speaker 6 (29:58):
It's starting the darkness retreat early.

Speaker 5 (30:01):
We will get to the baseball first and then to
the Florida Panthers, because we had wins for the Giants,
the Padres, the Mets, but not the Dodgers. With runners
in scoring position, they were one for thirteen. At Saint Louis,
Cardinals won the game five nothing. This from Stats Inc.
In the last decade in the major leagues, how many

(30:22):
instances have there been where a team has, like the
Dodgers tonight, at least ten hits and three extra base
hits in a game, regular season or playoffs, and yet
get shut out? The answers there have been over twelve
thousand such instances in the past decade. The Dodgers are
the only one of those twelve thousand to get shut out.

Speaker 2 (30:41):
See it doesn't happen in just basketball.

Speaker 5 (30:44):
Rain de Lay at the start in Saint Louis, over
an hour and still sunny, Gray went six and a
third innings got the win. He's seven and won the
Mets record forty and twenty four. After a victory at
Colorado four to two, pinch hitter Francisco Lindor with the
broken toe, hit a two run double in the ninth.
Angels got a save from Kenley Jansen and beat Seattle
five to four. A's over Baltimore five to four. The

(31:05):
late game at San Francisco went to the Giants on
a tenth inning wild pitch five to four over Atlanta.
The Braves left twelve men on base. Atlanta did call
up veteran reliever Craig Kimberl today. He pitched a scoreless seventh.
Padres won two to nothing at Milwaukee. The Brewers offense
went four for thirty with ten left on base. The
White Sox scored five times in the bottom of the
eighth to win seven to two over Kansas City. Victories

(31:29):
for Houston and Toronto, but the Atlanta at Cincinnati game
had a rain delay after six inning, the game was suspended.
It'll resume on Saturday, tie three to three. Trek Skobel
of Detroit six and two now after beating the Cubs
three to one in Scooble's last eleven starts, he has
ninety five strikeouts and three walks. The Yankees led early

(31:50):
seven nothing against Boston and Walker Bueler beat the Red
Sox nine to six. Aaron Judge three more hits. He's
betting three ninety seven Washington and Tampa Bay with trees.
Pittsburgh as well, with a run in the bottom of
the ninth, beating the Phillies five to four. The loss
to closer question mark Jordan Romano, who's ERA is seven
points seven to one. Phils first baseman Bryce Harper listed

(32:13):
his day to day with a scorn.

Speaker 2 (32:14):
You can close games for your team, you can close
the game for the other teams.

Speaker 6 (32:18):
It doesn't matterrect it's a different category this dad.

Speaker 2 (32:22):
I will end this game one way or the other.

Speaker 6 (32:25):
He's very good at closing games. Romanto, you are correct.

Speaker 5 (32:29):
Florida takes Game two of the Stanley Cup Final in
double overtime five to four at Edmonton, game winner to
Brad Marshan, who also had a short handed goal second period.
Series tied at one, Game three in Florida on Monday.
By the way, the last time a Canadian team won
the Stanley Cup nineteen ninety three. Oilers now even in
this series. By the way, NHL Awards going to be

(32:50):
held before Game four. Dallas Stars fired coach Peter de boor.
NBA Finals Game two is Sunday. Two WNBA games tonight.
Connecticut was one and six, but got a whole win
against Atlanta, LA was two and six. We got to
win at Dallas. Dallas one and eight so far. Simmy's
at the French Open number one, Janick Center beat Novak Djokovic,
Carlos Salvarez advanced, Rory McElroy shot a seventy eight, missed

(33:13):
the cut at the Canadian Open and College Softballs champion
for the first time ever. Texas winning game three of
the best of three over Texas Tech ten to four.

Speaker 2 (33:21):
Back to you, thanks a bunch, Steve O, Jason Smith,
Mike Harmon live from the Fox Sports Radio Studios. Coming
up next, we can answer one of the biggest questions
coming off of Game one of the NBA Finals, plus
one story involving the Pacers and the thunder. I am
sick of it. I don't want to hear anymore. That's
next Jason and Mike Fox. Be sure to catch live

(33:42):
editions of The Jason Smith Show with Mike Harmon weekdays
at ten pm Eastern, seven pm Pacific.

Speaker 1 (33:48):
Fox Sports Radio The Jason Smith Show with My best
friend Mike Harmon. Two big takes of the NBA Finals.
Who wait for Game Two? On the fourth of July.

Speaker 2 (33:56):
Yay uh last night, this was the final call.

Speaker 1 (34:00):
Mike Breen with a call on ESPN of Tyrese Halliburton's
game winning jumper.

Speaker 2 (34:07):
Remember, we had a big question following it. Final seconds,
no fouls to do, Caliverton looking, Halliburton driving, pulls off jump.

Speaker 4 (34:15):
Shot put three cuts of a second, romantic time out.

Speaker 2 (34:21):
Okay, see Tyres Halliburton does it again. That is what
Tyres Halliburton has been doing all right.

Speaker 1 (34:28):
So that's on ESPN and we wondered after, hey, that's
a pretty big shot. Where's no bang or double bang?

Speaker 2 (34:34):
Right? That's Mike Breen's Yeah, And I said, you know
the thing and sometimes some play by play guys as
you feed off the energy in the building, and it
was the away team that made the shots. So maybe
it wasn't feeling. I don't know, but he actually talked
about it. Yeah, they asked about nothing says energy like
a triple bank. I know, I had no bang, double bang,
triple bang, no quadruple bank game winner in the finals. Yeah,

(34:57):
four pole bang whatever? Quit you know, I mean a
lot of triples. Why, I think you just created a
whole other world. Yeah, fourpull for I used to always
say four pull for five like it was four pole.
Let me make sure fourple is Okay, four pole means
something else would be No, No, it's fine, okay, okay. Uh,
there's a there.

Speaker 1 (35:14):
Apparently there's a fourpole wood stove. It's really well, yeah,
that's the first match fourple wood stove.

Speaker 2 (35:20):
Uh. Mike Breen said it didn't rise to the occasion
of a bang because he saves them for three pointers
and that being a mid range jumper by Halliburton, it
did not meet the criteria being a bang. I feel
like I need to go back and find all the bangs. Yeah,

(35:42):
and double bangs, triple bangs and whatever other should genre
he's got. Shouldn't a three be a triple bang and
other big shots can be bangs? Right, Like I think
a three should be shot is a bang? Bang? Yeah,
it's a double bang, and a triple is is a
is a is a triple bang? Yeah? Bag bang bang? Yeah? Yeah? Yeah,
I mean Bank can just be something, right, double bank

(36:04):
can be like bank could be something where it's a layup,
or it's a running one hander or something. But a
mid range jumper could be a double bang and a
three of a triple bang. Yeah. See, because now people
are going to go to the suprud Or film to
see if he's telling the truth. How many times is
he called a dagger mid range jumper with a bang?

(36:24):
Oh that's true, all right, Jalen Brunson, Karl Anthony talons
evidence going back to twenty seventeen that he is called
jumpers double bang. How dare you? Mike Breen? Oh, the
is change in your philosophy. Now you never want to
sick the internet after you. It's gonna happen. Although although
anybody that's got time to even ponder that more than

(36:46):
the eight seconds we did just now, yeah, that's true.
To find something else to do. Well, Now, three things
this week I've told you now that I'm sick of
three things. Okay, One, I'm sick of the elitism and
the the the we're better than you overall attitude and

(37:07):
the entitlement of the big ten in the SEC and football, right,
we need more playoff We're just the best, right, I'm
sick of that. I'm sick of the talk of Oh,
nobody's watching the NBA plague. It doesn't matter, it doesn't matter.
It's great basketball.

Speaker 1 (37:20):
People are watching it, just not as many people as
watch other No one says all this super Bowl nobody watched,
only ninety nine million people watching. You a get one
hundred and ten million people. I'm sick of that, you know, like,
like Kevin Durant says, you don't like it, don't watch right,
I'm sick of that. The other thing I'm sick of
is I'm sick of the Pacers publicly talking about how
they're disrespected in the media because they're not being disrespect

(37:43):
Picking another team to win a playoff round that's not you,
is not disrespecting you. It's simply picking the team that
we think is going to win. And you know what
in these rounds in the playoffs, when you played the Calves,
of course, more people thought the Calves are gonna win.
They were the best team in the regular season, they
were the best team in the East. Yeah, more people
picked the Knicks. The Knicks were better than you in

(38:05):
the regular season.

Speaker 2 (38:06):
More people picking the thunder Why the Thunder were the
best team in the NBA, so yeah, I could see it.
This is no one, No one's treating you badly. It's
not like people are saying you don't deserve to be there. Now,
that would be one thing, but this whole God, we
wear this. This disrespect is a badge. It's just ridiculous.
Whatever you need to do behind the scenes, I'm all for, man,
whatever you need to motivate yourself. I get I understand

(38:28):
right if you make that to win, hey, good, good
on you. But this whole But I was thinking about
it last night when when he did the appearance on
Scott Van Pelt Show and ed Eddie said, oh, other
people wouldn't admit that that, you know, they were laid
to our bandwagon, whereveryone was. I'm like, dude, we're just
picking another another team got picked to win, all right,
that's all it was. Stop with this. Oh, you guys
are being bad to us. You guys are being mean

(38:49):
to us. You're don Quixote, man, you're fighting windmills. But
this is like they've taken this disrespect to an art
form right now. Mark Stein even joined us last week
and said, you know, this whole Halliburton in the Overrated
like he's done with it. I'm done with the whole.
Oh we're being disrespect No one's disrespecting the Pacers. First
find your motivation where you will one someone should explain

(39:10):
to them how the algorithms and setting a line price
for a series works. Because the thunder were minus seven
hundred when things hit the books, that is a ninety
percent probability. That's not a bunch of people just going,
I don't like the Pacers. They're from Indiana. Yeah, no,

(39:30):
it's not that. But hey, whatever is going to build
you to success. The TV ratings thing you want to
don't gone. I mean, you're trying to take B and
C blocks from everybody. First, you were happy that the
Rogers signing happened. What are people supposed to be doing
for the next couple of weeks? He took that and
lamenting television ratings away. As for the elitism, hey, you know,

(39:54):
when you've got leverage, you use it. This big ten leverge,
it's like eight years old, this big ten leverage. Like
before that, no one cared. Oh but no, we carry
college foot but nah, hulde have done. I'm sick of that.
People have an attention span of like seven seconds. That's sick,
eight years a lifetime. Lifetime man with worries about his

(40:15):
contract might make certain decisions like doc rivers to the necks.
Stop Frostburg's going to basketball jail for suggesting that, for
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