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here we are. We got much more football coming up
throughout the rest of this hour. We have a big
appreciation moment for a head coach who was hold his
services were no longer required today. But we've said this
the last couple of weeks and it bears repeating again
tonight after we watched the Dodgers, who clearly are gonna say, hey,
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we're gonna keep these interesting all the way to the
end of the season. Right, we think we're gonna have
the NL West sewn up, No, no, no, up for nothing.
Tonight over the Diamondbacks in a game that could have
really just basically ended the Diamondback season, the Dodgers' bullpen
comes in again. After Shoho Tani pitches five shutout innings,
(01:33):
Tanner Scott blows his tenth save two in the ninth
for Arizona. They stay alive in the wildcard race. The
Dodgers now lead the Padres by just two games in
the NL West. They've lost to in a row. Padres
have won four in a row. Look, there is no
bigger equalizer and bigger variable in the playoffs than the Dodgers' bullpen.
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It's the reason why the Dodgers can go home early,
all right. I mean, you think they can't understand how
much teams need the bullpen. And it's as much as
the Dodgers may have figured out their rotation to playoffs. Okay,
we got Blake, snell is gonna go and Yamamoto and
potentially we can we can slide in. Maybe Kershaw splits
a game with Otani, right and still no matter what,
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you know you're gonna need your bullpen a long way.
The Dodger bullpen last year was terrific right from the
middle of the first series with the padres on, they
were terrific. Right Dave Roberts had a couple of relievers.
He knew, these are the guys I'm bringing in when
the other team scores six runs off our starters early
and the game is over, and these are my guys
I'm bringing in when the game is close, we're up
by a run or two. He doesn't have that luxury
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this year because they thought they took care of the
bullpen in the offseason. They went to this year with
three with three closers, and now they don't have any.
This is the great equalizer, and the Dodgers can go
home in the first round of the playoffs because you're
gonna get you want four innings out of your starter.
Most managers say, hey, if we get four good innings, okay,
because we know we're gonna need our bullpen. We know
we're gonna use it. The Dodgers, they can't go to
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guys they trust. They just can't. And they needed to
figure this out for the final week of the season
where Okay, we understand how we're gonna deal with with
certain bits of uncomfortableness, how we're gonna deal with rallies
early by the other team, who we can go to
in the fourth inning, if we have to, we go
to in the sixth inning. Bit. If any of that
figured out, it's gonna be hey, why not? Right? Why not? Good?
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I had no reason why not go it? You know,
Dave Roberts loves to go to the bullpen. Anyway, It's
just gonna be why not. We don't have any We
have no rhyme or reason why we're doing this. The Dodgers'
bullpen can send them home in the first round of
the playoffs. As good as this team is, they can
go home in the first round.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
Spent all that money on the bullpen and added bonus,
you even got that extra inning out of Otani. He
gave you a six shutout for leaving ay and immediately
watched it all go to hell. And we watched this
time and time again. I know all the emergency the
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heroic home runs to Oscar Hernandez.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
Now it's twenty five on the year. You get this
great start from show a six inning shutout, ball, eight strikeouts.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
It's getting stronger by the start. Right, you had a
couple of hiccups, but overall his stuff has been fantastic.
He's still mashing at the plate. All of that's great.
Mookie Betts has been a different guy the last six weeks.
It doesn't matter because no matter what you're starting, pitching
has done and the starters have been fantastic for the
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last several weeks.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
Right, we've watched it game after games. Wow, he gave
you five great Like, all right, get your popcorn.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
Because it's about to get you know, we're getting into
act two and this is where the big m night
shot him on twist comes to where you're gonna be horrified, mortified,
terrorized by what you're about to see.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
And we've watched that night after night.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
And they spent a lot of money on on bullpen
this offseason. And that is the one thing that if
you're around Major League baseball, there are a lot of
people in front offices, a lot of folks with powerful
microphones and poison pens that are pointing at the Dodgers
go and see, can't buy it all. It always doesn't work.
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Those deals don't don't necessarily play out year to year
because as we know, there's nothing more temperamental than a bullpen.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
It's it's the biggest X in all of the playoffs. Well, yeah,
that's true, that's true because two year old. But there's
no rhyme or reason there either. You know, I need
Dave Roberts to come and try to get a toddler
to stop crying. Okay, Dave's gonna tell you to do Dave, Dave,
the analytics say this. So there's your first big story
of the night, right in Major League Baseball. This Dodger
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bullpen just clearly they needed, they need to have it
button down, and it's just gonna be Hey, who knows.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
Where's that sage brush that Kyrie kept bringing into arenas?
Speaker 1 (05:57):
Man? Oh, I could see like I shaking around your stadium. Yeah,
I could see Kershaw doing that, like burning some stage
walking around. I could see that happening. Sure, oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
Then there's no more and all the guys in oral
hersheids are having to decide when they're broadcasting the games.
Oh yeah, no, I could say they died last. So yeah,
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don't forget to bring the booze. I'm just saying, so,
who would rip down the believe sign? Freddie Freeman? I
think Freddie would or Mookie Freddie or MOOKI would rip
down the beliefs sign. They have to take it back up,
get it back up there. That's well, it's a heel
turn I didn't see coming. Speaking of not seeing things coming, Okay,
I want to say this not because it was the
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biggest win of the year for the Mets, who were
down six to one in the game where I said, okay,
they're done. Clearly the Mets are doing what I thought
they're gonna do. They're gonna take this all the way
down to the last day of the season before they
break my heart, because that's how the Mets do it. No, no, no,
we can't just collapse with the five games left out.
We're gonna take it all the way down to the
final game and then we're gonna collapse.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
When they collapse late in games. Do you listen to
the Stevie Nicks Tom Petty classic, stop dragging my heart around.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
No, I just banged my head against the wall until
I realize I have to stop thinking about it. So
that's kind of like, oh, okay, yeah that helps. I
don't know how much more effective that is, but okay,
you know it dulls. It dulls the pain. Uh, definitely.
But look down six to one. Tonight they come back
and beat the Cubs. Francisco Alvas hits a home run
in the eighth in the eighth inning, and Edwin Diaz
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comes in for a six out save, like this is
a huge night. Now, there's been a lot of talk
about the Mets blowing this final wildcard spot in the
National League, and let me just say the blow, the
collapse of the Met This is completely overrated compared to
what we're gonna talk about. Okay, yes, the Mets. They
had a five game lead in the NL East. Okay,
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teams blow five game leads all the time. Right, the
Phillies came on, they won. They're winning the division by
ten games. Okay, the Mets had a four game lead
and the final wildcard spot and now it's one game. Okay, yeah,
if they blowed hey, they had the That is nothing
compared to what we are seeing in the American League
right now with the Guardians and the Tigers. Five weeks ago,
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the Tigers had a twelve and a half game lead
over the Guardians. If the Guardians win this division, they
would have come back from down fifteen and a half games.
And it's the biggest come from behind deficit in the
history of Major League Baseball. You got be a get
one hundred and fifty years, no one has come back
from more than what the Guardians have against the Tigers
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to win this division. Right I always go back to
the seventy eight Red Sox Yankees where the Red Sox
had what that a twelve game lead going into September
something insane like that, and they gacked it away and
the Yankees caught them and they won the big playoff game.
Bucky Denz home run, Callya Streemsky fouling out with the
tying run at third base, Like that's always been the
Pennant race choke that of my lifetime. This blows that away.
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I mean the Tigers. Look, I never believed we talked
about this, there's evidence to back it up. I never
believe the Tigers were the best team in baseball. They
reminded me a lot of the Mets the first two
and a half months, where everything was going right. They're
a flawed team, but everything was going right right, Everything
went right for the Mets. I had the best record
in baseball. That it all fell apart because, oh, by
the way, I told you their starting pitching was going
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to hit the wall in August, and it hit the
wall in August. I can be a GM from three
thousand miles away. Everything was going well for the Tigers, right,
guys were overachieving. The pitching staff was really good, but
they weren't this good a team. They were a team
greater than some of their parts. And boy if they
hit the skids. But this is not just hitting the skids.
This again, the Guardians had a fifteen and a half
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game depth sit to overcome. Again a little bit over
a month ago, it was twelve and a half games,
and now they're tied after today, and the Guardians technically
have the lead because they have the tiebreaker with the Tigers,
who now might not even make the playoffs because everybody
is surging around them. And John Paul Morosi proud Michigander.
MLB Network insider. He told us last hour on the show, Hey,
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the tigers best thought right now might be the the
Astros keep losing because they're in a bad way right now,
so they gotta hope the Astros just keep losing, and
maybe that's how the Tigers get in. This is where
we're at. For the Tigers, it would be the biggest
blown lead in the history of baseball if they blow this.
Remember it also coincides.
Speaker 3 (10:15):
July twenty eighth was the day that Class A was
shown the door and the locker was cleared out in Cleveland.
So get exercising. Those issues in the bullpen seem to
have had a bit of a help.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
They were when you're not throwing the game allegedly, I mean,
it's got to help out. I'm just saying, like, let's
let's not let's not walk through this without acknowledging that
that actually happened this season, because it seems like a
lifetime ago. Right, Let's go out there and try to win,
and let's not worry about prop bets and throw and
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and playing badly. Can we do all guys, let's go
do that. I guarantee you we'll have great results.
Speaker 3 (10:55):
We realize some bad things were going on that's now
been excised from the building, so this will be better
for us.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
Now.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
The lead had already shrunk to either eight and a
half or nine games at that point, so they were
on the come from that depths of I think it
was July eighth. Steve had it at fifteen and a
half games, so they already knocked off half of theeen
and a half game fifteen and a half right early.
You get out of the July fourth holiday, and that's
mid way through the season.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
Fifteen and a half games, and it's gone, and that
deficit is gone. I just wanted to make sure we
acknowledge that they did have some problems in that clubhouse,
that they exists part of the part of the juice
for the second half. I need everybody to raise your
hand if you are potentially gambling against the team. Okay, okay,
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thank you for being honest. You're out, You're out, You're okay,
all right, now we're going forward with the guys. Okay, anybody,
if you gamble, we're gonna find out. Anybody else, anybody else,
raise your end, We're gonna find Okay, let's go in.
You laugh. I bet you a lot of folks listening
forgot that that happened. You had a bunch of guys
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thrown off in the middle of the sceason and they
just didn't just a class a just didn't. Just like
they got rid of his locker. No, that's right, way
like they sized immediately, that's right. Yeah, he goes from
being a top end closer in Major League Baseball, of
which we have very few, to uh, you're gone. I mean,
and and this is how upside down a season is
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for Cleveland. Okay, you look at the first place teams
Toronto Blue Jays. They're run differential plus sixty three right
Mariners plus sixty nine Phillies plus one twenty one Brewers
plus one seventy three Dodgers plus one twenty five. The
Guardians are in first place thirteen games over five hundred.
Their run differential is minus six. Like that shouldn't be possible.
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That shouldn't be possible.
Speaker 3 (12:53):
That's great, you're living on the margins. Shows you what
a big detriment those guys were that were on the tank.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
When the margin is that small between winning and losing,
living and dying, they gave up those inches all around.
You think they had a guy in the locker room
that had the hound's tooth hat and the pipe and
the and the cloak. Like Sherlock Holmes, it was just waiting, listen,
overhearing things and figuring it out.
Speaker 4 (13:23):
Going.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
Aha, you're the one that's worried about prop bets. That's you.
You're out of here, super sleuthing. Really, that's so if
let's understand that if we want to talk about gacking
something away and choking it away and collapsing, this Mets
thing is nothing compared to what's going on with the Tide. No, nothing,
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It's absolutely nothing next level stuff. I mean, really, this
is I can't even I have a text with all
of my wife's family all from Detroit, right, you know
that vacation there. And I can't tell you how at
the lack of texts about the Tigers in the last
three weeks. Well, Michigan and the Lions. There's the Tigers.
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It's like, no, we don't talk about that. We can't
talk about this, like we cannot talk this is so awful.
We can't even put a voice to it. Like there's
what else there?
Speaker 3 (14:17):
Yeah, you know what else you can do is you
just keep showing more pictures from your experience at COSM
and you make them jealous, so they're really.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
Mad at you. There, Oh that's true. Yeah, not thinking
about the Tigers at all. Yeah yeah, I mean I
text everybody, hey, say, you guys beat mahomes. You beat mahomes.
How exciting is that? Exit out about a Fresca exit
swollen dope. Just understand there's collapses and then there's what's
going on with the Tigers. It is just that bad.
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just something really quick because it's it really is amazing. Uh.
We talk a lot in sports about how coaches are
hired to be fired, right and and and and clearly
NFL college football to an extent, college basketball they still
get at least three years. But college football, NFL, these
(19:03):
are head coaches that get have the least amount of
job security. Right, you turn it around in a couple
of years, are you're gone? Man, I'm telling you the
last couple of years the WNBA one hundred percent. You
do not want to be ahead. You have zero job security.
You could win the title like the Liberty did last year,
they go out in the first round. They fire their
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head coach today, right, Hey, the Fever make it back
to the playoffs last year for the first time. Yeah, no,
we fired our head coach going into the season. Like,
there is absolutely zero job security in the WNBA. I mean,
you go from winning the title and you go out
in the first round. But okay, there's only eight it
is the first round. There's eight you know again, Ah,
I understand you go out here and and and you
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get fired, Like wow, like what did you did all
of a sudden things get that bad? That fat? There
is no jobs that happen, right, But I mean we
we watched the other day. It's like Breanna Stewart look
like she was just I don't even know how to
describe her reaction to the question other than she uttered
an F bomb when asked about you know, hey, should
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she be back? Like really that that's what we're doing
here now? She could have gone full throated in support
of her coach at that point, I guess might have
been the move.
Speaker 3 (20:19):
But all of that, say, you're coming off a title, man,
I guess we had that in Philly right really quick
with with Peterson.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
Yeah, but he's back. But look but but teams, but
the w n B A like they're irrational. Okay, like
ESPN is reporting. Listen ESPN's reporting. Alexa philipp reports that
Liberty brass or the front office considered nothing short of
a championship to be a success this season. Wow, I mean,
come on, man, like I I get.
Speaker 3 (20:48):
Literally a championship or busts. Yeah, after after we just won,
we want to.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
Like that's not realistic, man, Like, I mean really, I
mean you gotta be really you have to understand and sport.
It's like you don't win the title every single year.
That doesn't happen that way. How do you say we
considered nothing a championship? What else that we fire? We
fire the head coach? Really, yes, we're fired that coach.
We don't win the championship again, Like, no, nobody should
be held to that, not not even in the in
(21:15):
the not even in the SEC and college football, they
hold coaches to something like that.
Speaker 3 (21:22):
Yeah, I want to go stand outside the uh the
facilities there and just shrug for eight hours, like what
are we doing wearing a swoard? I mean he was
in charge here, I mean Sandy Brundela's record in four
years was one hundred and seven and fifty three and
a championship last year. All of a sudden, she can't coach.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
Like a part of me digs the lunacy of it.
Speaker 3 (21:47):
Hey, we had expectations. You knew what these standards were,
and you guys fell.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
I mean, someone's gonna hire that, Like, someone's gonna hire
her right away, Like I guarantee you she's gonna be
the next time you got a Cogo teams coming in right, yep,
she's give me the next head coach Chicago Sky No
where nobody went to their exit. Yeah yeah, ye, hey,
Angel will get Angel rested to come back and go.
I mean, really, I guarante. I mean it's a it's
I mean, it's crazy to think about that. You win
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the title or you're not coming back as head Go
Wait what what? What? What? What kind of world does
that make sense? I don't know. People have been arguing
for years that you should only get paid at the
end of the season. How well do you do against
certain metrics? I'll tell you that's just that. Just do
not a bonus. No, no, no, you don't get a bonus
for making the playoffs. So what we get back to
(22:35):
the semis, we make the finals? No, no, win it all?
You mean when win the chances it can get to
keep your job. Yeah, yeah, that does. That doesn't sound great.
That sounds like a little bit too high a bar
to hold up there for someone.
Speaker 3 (22:49):
Everybody else paid trip. Here's you know, a couple hundred
grand the next couple of years. Here's a contract extension.
Don't wait in the title you're fired.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
But speaking of losing your job, the big shocking story
today Mike Gundhy is out as Oklahoma State head coach.
We're gonna have a big appreciation moment a minute for
you know, the legendary moment that Mike Gundy brought us
seventeen years ago. Yesterday, Oklahoma State lost to Tulsa this week,
which really, you know, it's it's you can't really lose
(23:22):
to Tulsa, not even in college basketball. So he gets fired.
They start one and two, they had a bad year
last year, three and nine, and they decide to move on. Okay,
Now I understand this. I understand that maybe Mike Gundy,
who has been there twenty years, Okay, I understand that
maybe this new age of college football, the nil era
(23:44):
transfer portal, not everybody is made for it, right, Not
everybody's made for that, And maybe this is what he's
struggling with. But I'm okay with if you have two
bad seasons like this, Okay, after twenty years, maybe you
need a new fresh voice, right, I get that, right,
you're looking for a fresh start and a way to
hand what college football is now in twenty twenty five,
which wasn't what it was from you know, two thousand
(24:06):
until twenty twenty one, right until we got out of COVID, Right,
So I get that. But man, unless I hear about
something really bad behind the scenes, like Oklahoma State just
did him wrong. Man, I mean, this is not a
guy that was hired five years ago, that showed up,
went to a bowl a couple of years, god three
years to get it going and didn't. This guy brought
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the program to a really high, sometimes elite level. And
again he was there for twenty years. Man, Like they
played there, like you talk about in you'd say Oklahoma
State football, two names come up, Barry Sanders, Mike Gundy.
These are the name that's it. Nobody else. Nobody else
comes up. Pat Jones doesn't come up, Rusty Hilger doesn't
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come up. No, No, Derman Thomas doesn't come up. It's
Barry Sanders and Mike Gundy. Right, And this guy deserved
better than to coach this past weekend, come out and
do his pres conference for this week where he said, yeah,
I have a big I plan on being here. He
talked about his contract, hasn't been told anything. I'm coaching
this week and then you get fired the next day,
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like you need to do it better for your guy
that's been here, that has really given your program, Oklahoma
State football relevance for two decades, and it's you could say, hey,
this is Mike Gundy's last year, right, and we say
goodbye to him. It's already a lost year. You're going
to an interim head coach anyway, who's on staff already.
What kind of change is that really gonna be. You
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can announce this is his last year, or you could
say I'm retiring, I'm resigning, I have one more game
this week? Is it for me? And you can send
him out on a high note and appreciate that the
guy has done what he's done for you for twenty
some odd years. Was it always smooth, No, it wasn't
always smooth. Was it always something that people liked?
Speaker 6 (25:49):
No?
Speaker 1 (25:50):
But bottom line is the guy won a lot of games,
he sent a lot of guys to the NFL, His
players liked him. He gave your school relevance when it's
really tough to buy relevant for Oklahoma State now, and
this is how he gets done. No, I'm not down
with that, man. I think I think this is a
bad I got to hear something really bad happen behind
closed doors before I say okay, because right now it
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seems like he was just done dirty and done wrong.
Speaker 3 (26:13):
Well to hear some people tell it. Commenters, you can
go find him on the interwebs. They were a little
gleeful at his dismissal, kind of you know, sour grapes
kind of thing going on. But for Gundy, I mean,
what eight double digit win seasons and other two to
nine win seasons one hundred and seventy and ninety that
equates to a sixty five percent plus winning percentage through
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the year.
Speaker 1 (26:37):
Obviously, twenty twenty four was a mess, the three.
Speaker 3 (26:40):
And nine, going zero to nine in conference, and then
that obliteration at Oregon. And this is where, you know,
while we celebrate, Look, we love the characters of the game.
College football has given us so many through the years
with great quips, quotes, and personalities, and Gandhy certainly among them.
But his comments related to Oregon and their forty million
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dollar roster kind of seemed.
Speaker 1 (27:07):
To me a bit thumbing your nose at your boosters.
Speaker 3 (27:10):
Right, all right, we're not we're not equipped to go
play a game like this because we don't have the
revenue and we don't have the buy in, is how
I read it. You know, he said he was misinterpreted
that it was a compliment to what Oregon's built. But
to me, I think if you were in and around
that program and you've helped juice things for twenty years
for him and improved facilities or whatever else, you probably
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were a little pissed at those comments. And then certainly
the way they went out and got thumped in this game,
by the way Oregon then played money talks by acd
S in the post game Canda.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
Look, look, I'm not saying, hey, getting rid of my
Gundy wasn't something that didn't need to happen, because yeah,
something like that, I get where where the where the
alumni is upset, But I think the alumni was pretty
happy that he went to a Bowl game eighteen years
of show that he was over five hundred and eighteen
years in a row. Okay, I think the guy has
earned the right just to say one thing, Hey, if
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they're not coming up with money, I don't think he's
lying about that. You may not get by Okay, you
can still send the guy. Understand that what he did
for this bread and you want to be seen as
a school that, hey, we're going to be loyal to
guys that do something like this for two decades. We
don't want to say, hey, all of a sudden, we
don't like what you said. You're out the door, like, whoa, whoa, whoa,
what are you just saying if you already had cracks
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in the armor. And certainly after a really rough twenty
twenty four season and whatever meetings you're having, whatever glad
handing right the rubber chicken banquet circuit and conversations you're
having about recruiting and whatever, that perhaps as an institution
you realize maybe you're falling that much further behind. Those
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comments didn't help on this situation. And then you lose
to Tulsa and you decide, all right, that's it. Before
and we know what happens now, guys can can transfer out.
People that were committed may have decided all right, if
he's not there, that perhaps this place isn't for them. So,
I mean, there's a lot of fallout from this, but
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to happen at the end of September, I mean, we're
seeing way too many coaches by the end of September
just cutting bait very interesting times now. No appreciation moment
for the career of Mike Gundy would be complete without
celebrating something that was seventeen years to the day a
day ago. Maybe that's why they didn't fire him yesterday. Well,
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we can't fire him on the anniversary of it. It
was seventeen years ago today. Mike Gundy decided he did
not like some of the questions that his players were
getting from the press, and he went on a very
famous rant, the I'm a man, I'm forty. The rant
turned seventeen yesterday. So to appreciate Mike Gundy one more time,
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here it is. He's a man, he was forty.
Speaker 6 (29:56):
That's why I don't read the newspaper because it's garbage.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
And the editor that let it come out is garbage.
Speaker 6 (30:04):
Attacking an amateur athlete for doing everything right. And then
you want to write articles about guys that don't do
things right and downgrade and the ones that do make place.
Speaker 1 (30:17):
Are you kidding me?
Speaker 2 (30:18):
Where are we at in society today? Come after me.
Speaker 6 (30:23):
I'm a man, I'm forty, I'm not a kid.
Speaker 2 (30:27):
Write something about.
Speaker 1 (30:28):
Me or our coaches. And I give Steve to say,
you're a lot of credit because you know, understanding how
dated this was seventeen years ago, mentioning newspapers and amateur athletes,
neither of which exists anymore. So we're done. We don't
have either of them anymore. They're all gone. They're all gone,
but all gone. You know. The funny thing about this
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is that this has become one of the most famous
quotes of all time in sports history, right. And I
remember when I was This is when I was at
ESPN and I was filling in during the day, like
for Dan Patrick or Colin or somebody, I forget what
it was. And I was filling in during the day
and Mike Gundy was coming on the show. And it
was about a month after this. I'm a man, I'm forty,
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so I'm talking with my producer before we go on.
I go, all right, well, I gotta ask him about it.
How do you think he's gonna go? Do we know
anything how he's been dealing with this? And my proof's like, no,
we don't, but yeah, you gotta ask him. I said,
I'll just find a way to bring it up and
let him answer iever he wants to, but I want
him to have a good experience with this. I don't
want to, you know, make fun of him with it, obviously,
because this is a weird thing. All of a sudden,
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you get man, I'm a man, I'm forty. So I said,
I'm just gonna bring it up and just and just
see how he reacts. I was confident myself in the moment.
I was going to ask the question the right way,
fully expecting him to just give me a stock answer
moving on from that, you know, X Y Z Okay,
But I gotta ask again. This is a month after
so this is this is before it's really become the
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huge pop culture moment that is has since become in
the last uh, you know, one and a half decades.
So I asked him, and I was happy that I
phrase the question. I said, So, Mike, now it's been
a month since you told everybody you were man and
you were forty. What's the last month been like for you? Right,
I'm like, Okay, let me see what he says, and
I'll tell you what I could tell right away that
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he was giving me a legit and real answer. He said,
I'll never think, he said, Jason, I can't tell you
the how positive this has been for me and the
program where recruits want to talk to our coaches now,
and they want to talk to our coaches about this.
They want to talk to me about this. It's brought
attention to the school. It brought attention to this situation.
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I can't tell you the positive this has turned out
to be. And I walked away from this not knowing
what was going to be, and it turned out to
be something that I couldn't have planned out. I mean, really,
this is this is just something that I can't get
over how the reaction has been to this, and we
we can continue to talk to recruits about it, and
players asked me about it all the time, and and
it's that's how it's been. And I could tell the
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way he was giving me the answer. He wasn't tell
me a story like this was. I really, I can't
tell you how positive this has been for us, like that,
like this is something that I didn't foresee after this happened,
and it turned out to be something great for us.
And look you look at his wins the next few
years after this happened eleven, twelve, eight, ten, seven, ten, ten, ten,
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So pretty sure his recruiting was good. Everybody liked the school,
and this turned out to be pretty good for him.
I'm I'm pretty positive with that kind of reaction from him.
Speaker 3 (33:27):
Yeah, I mean a lot of it goes back to
what have we always talked about, Like we just went
through this with my daughter a bit with her soccer program,
and you're talking to coaches like you want to know
that the coach is looking out for their best interests
both as a player and academically and.
Speaker 1 (33:44):
All of that stuff. Now, obviously there's the.
Speaker 3 (33:46):
Extra financial stuff that comes into it, but back then,
how many families you know, mom's, dad's aunts, uncle's grandma, grandpa,
whoever's in charge of helping make the decision, was like,
this kid's gonna get looked dowt after properly by this
guy and his staff. Right after a rant like that,
I mean, he basically challenged everybody there on site to
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go after his program, and all they did was win
thereafter so clearly and ended up being the recruiting tool
of recruiting tools, even if it lives on in infamy
for so many other punchlines.
Speaker 1 (34:23):
Time out to find out what's trending in the wide
world of sports. For Man has been called the Mike
Gundy of Fox Sports Radio. He was once forty as well.
It's Steve the Sega. Oh, I thought you were going
to say you had a mullet. We do have that income.
Speaker 7 (34:34):
And just for the record, as Oklahoma State fired the
football coach Mike Gundy, he's now owed fifteen million dollars.
His team's lost eleven straight against FBS opponents. So Oklahoma
Sooner star quarterback John Mattier will have surgery for a
broken hand. He could miss a month that would include
the game against Texas in October. New York Giants rookie
quarterback Jackson Dart will start this week against the Chargers
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instead of veteran Russell Wilson. The Giants sign kicker Young
way Kud their practice squad. Graham Cano has a groin injury.
Tampa Bay wide receiver Mike Evans will reportedly miss three
to four weeks with a strain hamstring. Washington wide out
Terry McLaurin is seeking other medical opinions on his injured quad.
The Texans cut safety CJ. Gardner Johnson. Titans coach Brian
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Callahan gave up his play calling duties on offense. The
New York Liberty fired coach Sandy Brondela, who won the
WNBA title a year ago. They had just lost in
the first round as the five seed. Technically, the Liberty
declined to pick up her contract option. Both WNBA semifinals
are even at a game apiece. In best of five's
Las Vegas dominated Indiana. Phoenix came from twenty points down
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mid third quarter to win in overtime at Minnesota. And
then there's Major League Baseball. The Dodger bullpen since the
All Star Break has blown twelve saves, tied for the
most in the Majors. Blue one tonight at Arizona, Dbacks
with two in the bottom of the ninth, beat LA
five to four, ruining a great start from Shoheo Tanio
at six scoreless innings with eight s breakouts, no walks.
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The bullpen immediately allowed three runs in the seventh after
he left Tanner. Scott takes the loss for LA, his
tenth blown save of the year, which leads the majors.
His VRRA since the All Star Break is over eight.
Diamondbacks still one game out of the last NL wildcard
behind the Mets, who won nine to seven at the Cubs.
Cubs have lost five in a row. Mets are now
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leading the Reds by a game for the final NL
wildcard spot. Cincinnati's five game win streak is over. Red's
lost at home four to two to Pittsburgh. Saint Louis
with two in the ninth, took the late game nine
eight at San Francisco. Giants have lost nine of eleven.
The Padres in the NL West just a game and
a half behind the Dodgers. San Diego hit three homers
and shut out Milwaukee seven nothing. Seattle clinched a playoff
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Berth with its fifth straight win, three run double bottom
of the eighth edge Colorado four to three, and the
Mariners in the AL West now four games over Houston,
which lost five to one at the A's. The Yankees
clinched a playoff Berth, getting two runs bottom of the
ninth to beat the White Sox three to two, and
in the AL East, the Yankees just a game back
of the Blue Jays, who lost at home for to
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one to Boston. And then there's Cleveland beating Detroit five
to two. Seven straight losses for the Tigers, they're tied
for first with the Guardians. Cleveland now owns the tiebreaker
over Detroit and Tonight Mark the first time in the
history of Major League Baseball that all in the same inning.
You had a Cy Young winner with a wild pitch,
a balk, and an air. His heir was Key and
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my goodness, have they gone in the tank. They've lost
ten of eleven. Cleveland, a team that was down fifteen
and a half games in the standings in early July,
is tied for first regular season end Sunday back to you.
Speaker 1 (37:40):
Thank you, Steve though The Jason Smith Show with My
best friend Mike Carmen. Again, Tiger fans, just don't watch
the games, Just wait till the end of the year.
Coming up next, one NFL team after this week has
to go out and trade for a quarterback. Wait till
I tell you who it is. That's next Cleven, It
may be Cleveland.
Speaker 2 (38:00):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern seven
pm Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app
Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 1 (38:12):
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crown is yours. So Jackson Dart taking over New York
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Russell Wilson. We told you he's gonna wind up getting traded.
He's not gonna finish with the Giants. That's fun. But
how about this? Okay, after week three in the NFL,
the team who needs to trade for a quarterback and
Alex ty shirt. I know you didn't think you were right,
but when you played your favorite up the Cleveland Browns,
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I mean, I know, right. We spend so much time
about Shador and Dylan Gabriel and Kenny Pickett when he
was at oh no, no no, but he the first
that place so he could play. I want to go
to Philadelphia. I know his dad say that. You know
what the hell's wrong with you? Dude? I know what
do you want from me? Ideah, you're better than Look,
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the Browns defense is lights out. This is a terrific defense.
You've seen. They made Joe Burrow look bad week one,
they made Jordan Love look bad week three, and week
two wasn't as bad as you would expect it to
be team forty two seventeen. They did a lot to themselves.
But this defense is really good. This AFC North is
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not really good. You got no Burrow for the rest
of the season. A Steelers team that's just okay, and
a Ravens team that their defense is absolutely abysmal. Well,
they're getting nothing from Joe Flacco right. His quarterback rating
so far this year is sixty five. I mean, come on,
man that I know that's in the past that doesn't
pass sixty five is not passing like his quarterbacks in
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seventy five, sixty five and fifty five. They're not scoring
any points even uh just an just a not even
just a little bit below average quarterback play. And they're
probably two and one and they're, hey, we're feeling good.
We won Week one, we won would have one week
three and we're feeling great. Well, this set them up
for week one kicks. I mean, but you need you
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need to be able to put points on the board, right.
You can't just come in every week and say sixteen
points are gonna get it done. You can't. You need
to take it. You need to take a risk at quarterback.
You gotta go get somebody, and two guys you can
go get that are eminently available, Anthony Richardson and Spencer Rattler.
Not guys that suddenly all're gonna take you over the top,
but these are two players that are young with a
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lot of talent that maybe a change of scenery is
gonna help them. Clearly they can make plays with the
legs and get outside the pocket, and you might need that.
Kevin Stefanski's a great offensive coach. They're both available, right
the Colts with Daniel Jones, Okay, we're in on Daniel Jones.
We don't want this to be any messy. Anymore MESSI
you can go get Anthony Richardson. The Saints are gonna
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have to go to Tyler Shuck at some point. Spencer
Rattler again, he's okay, but you know they got to
go to Tyler Shuck before they take Arch Manning, you know,
next year in the draft. So these are teams where
guys are available. Now you can't just go get a
backup quarterback somewhere because they're not always available. But these
are a couple of guys you can go get and
your team will be better off, and you know what,
You'll be in the thick of the race in the
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AFC North, Be bold, do something fun, help the fans,
help the team, be good. Do something now, bring in
the moon ball. Go get Russ.
Speaker 3 (41:45):
He'll cost you about as much as these other two guys.
And basically you say it is either works or we're
looking for I mean, we're gonna be looking for another
quarterback anyway if you're not convinced that Gabriel or Sanders
is ready to be the guy. Because that's the other
thing is it's an indictment on your program if you're
just saying, after three weeks, how to hell with it,
let's go outside the building. When you brought all those
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guys in, all right, you trade it off Kenny Pickett,
and then you still have these guys remaining.
Speaker 1 (42:13):
Naw, we don't like them. Go get another guy. Forget
about Sanders, Go get some and you'll wind up winning
some games and staying in it. Man, Go get it,
go do it. Exit up about a Fresca exit swollen
dome for Mike im Jason coming up next, my buddy
Ben Maltow. You are listening to Fox Sports Radio. Mets Yo,
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Mets Stop