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November 24, 2023 • 36 mins

Arnie Spanier and Veejay Huskey talk with Bernie Fratto as they discuss some fun Thanksgiving topics and Detroit Sports.

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On into you at twelve noon Pacific time three pm
back East. I will be filling in for mister Doug
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be filling in for two good friends and colleagues of mine,
great fun show I listened to most days, mister Covino

(01:24):
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They must like you, dude. I'm not allowed to be
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I believe that.

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Yes, I believe that. Forbidden from being in the studio
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sun is out.

Speaker 5 (01:45):
You gotta bring that big vanilla energy with you, man.
I was a guest.

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They brought me in as a guest on their show
one day and sit in with them. I played the
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few of my one hundred and seventeen investment sports NFL predictions.

Speaker 5 (01:57):
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me in. Actually, nobody shake hands and kiss babies like me. Harnie.

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the king of that nobody. So no shopping for you tomorrow.
It's just just a regular another day. By the way,
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Oh yeah, no, I'll be here and then Martin and
I right back on Saturday from five to eight, eight
to eleven normally for Martin and V. Just soill three
straight days in the studio, man, I love it.

Speaker 3 (02:26):
I'll be out with playing tomorrow ten pm to two
am Eastern again in for Jason Smith and his best
friend Michael.

Speaker 5 (02:34):
I'll be tuning in. I'll check you guys out.

Speaker 3 (02:35):
Yeah. So, and now what Bernie Frattle coming up in
about twenty minutes from now. Bernie's gonna give us his
insight take about what's going on with the Michigan situation
and who we likes se that Michigan Ohio State game.

Speaker 6 (02:47):
So I'm definitely I.

Speaker 4 (02:48):
Love that guy, Big Burns man. That's a good that's
a good gentleman, right there. I love that guy.

Speaker 3 (02:51):
Uh yeah, And he's tied into Michigan, you know that.

Speaker 4 (02:54):
Oh yeah, I read his book. He sent me an autographed
copy of his book with you from the Cheap Seats.

Speaker 3 (02:58):
And he also will tell us about the Tom Brady
and Raiders deal on what's going on over there. Also,
because I'm kind of curious why that hasn't been finalized.

Speaker 4 (03:07):
You know, Tomas chilling Man. Everybody needs to excuse me, Thomas.
You guys need to respect that man and call him
by his proper name.

Speaker 5 (03:15):
Seven times super Bowl chain. That's Thomas Brady. That's Tom.

Speaker 4 (03:19):
That's not Tom Thomas Domos Domas Domas Brady.

Speaker 5 (03:24):
Yeah, we'll see what's up with that man.

Speaker 4 (03:25):
But I think I think Harball could be their next
new coach there in Vegas.

Speaker 3 (03:29):
I want to get to this before you even get
to the earlier games. We talked about the half time entertainment.
I just said a story about NBC breaking away from
Steve Aoki, who is the halftime entertainment in the late game.
I guess they just broke away by accident and fans
at home were not able to see him. We had
Dolly Parton and we had Jack Harlow. Jack Harlow not

(03:52):
getting rave reviews though Dolly did. I thought Dolly looked
great in seventy seven. You could have done without. It
couldn't have be j I.

Speaker 4 (03:58):
Could have done without because she's old, Like, we gotta
stop doing that with our old artists, don't. It doesn't
matter if you haven't seen her by now. You missed out.
If you haven't seen her by now, if you haven't
watched nine to.

Speaker 3 (04:11):
Five, people still go to the Rolling Stones.

Speaker 4 (04:13):
Yeah, and I guarantee you they don't move well on stage.
I guarantee you they don't move I'm all right, so
I'm black, I'm African American.

Speaker 5 (04:21):
So there's bands I grew up watching and stuff.

Speaker 4 (04:24):
New Audition. Everybody here knows who New Audition is. Could
you imagine what a new Audition concert looks like today?
Bobby Brown's three twenty. He don't even finish the dance steps.
One time he just walked off the stage because he
was so damn tired, Like, come on, like there could
have been a much better halftime lineup today. You cannot
tell me these were the best choices you could have.

(04:47):
I don't have nothing against Dolly, but what said would
you say? Seventy seven seventy eight?

Speaker 5 (04:52):
N stop? Stop?

Speaker 3 (04:54):
Do you have to have concerts? Why don't we just
have magicians.

Speaker 6 (04:56):
Come on out?

Speaker 3 (04:57):
Or something like that?

Speaker 5 (04:57):
What is this the NBA regular season? I do like
when I do like the lady that.

Speaker 4 (05:01):
Keeps jumping, like dumping stuff on herself and her dress
keeps changing, or the lady on the unicycle that can
flip all the bowls on her head.

Speaker 5 (05:10):
That right there is talent.

Speaker 4 (05:12):
Because I'm waiting for her to fall, or for her
to miss a bowl.

Speaker 5 (05:15):
That's what never happens. She never falls, She never misses
a bowl.

Speaker 4 (05:19):
But I'm watching Dolly partner hold on to the you know,
the little dosic.

Speaker 3 (05:23):
She looked good at seventy seven?

Speaker 2 (05:25):
Or what?

Speaker 4 (05:26):
No, no, can I be a comedian just for ten seconds? Yes,
she looked like she was being controlled by a drunk puppeteer.
Oh sorry, she looked like she was being controlled by
a puppeteer and he had had too many shots of
bourbon before they said, hey, mo, mover her, dude, you're
on Oh what yeah, mover her to the left to
know that's too.

Speaker 5 (05:44):
Far, she's gonna fall.

Speaker 3 (05:45):
What against weekend at Bernie's.

Speaker 5 (05:46):
Come on, now, that's what.

Speaker 6 (05:47):
It looked like.

Speaker 4 (05:48):
There you go, That's what it looked. She looked like
weekend at Bernie's. Bro Like, come on, don't do it, Like,
don't do that to her. I'm not trying to knock it.

Speaker 5 (05:55):
I'm knocking to people that made this decision. Don't do
that to Dolly.

Speaker 4 (05:58):
She's seventy eight. If she didn't made to call, hey,
how y'all? I want to do the Dallas Cowboy halftime show.
They had to been like, look, Dolly, Babe, listen babe,
it's been it's been fun.

Speaker 5 (06:08):
It's been a good ride. Okay, we're gonna go with
such and such what she gonna do? Like get mad?
Like come on?

Speaker 4 (06:12):
Like I just thought it was a bad choice, bro.
And it didn't look good and the lip singing was off.

Speaker 6 (06:17):
It was horrible.

Speaker 3 (06:18):
But you didn't think it was gonna be live?

Speaker 5 (06:19):
Did Joe?

Speaker 6 (06:20):
Come on now? Well? I don't.

Speaker 4 (06:21):
I didn't know what to expect when I saw coming out,
and they're like, Dolly, you part of I'm like, what
the hell? Okay, yeah, I gotta watch this. I want
to watch this car accident.

Speaker 3 (06:29):
For all those Dolly Parton fans, that's big vanilla fun.

Speaker 5 (06:32):
Come at me, Come at me.

Speaker 4 (06:34):
My mom used to watch nine to five on Beta
Max over and over and over again.

Speaker 5 (06:39):
And if you don't know the movie, you not a
real Dolly party.

Speaker 3 (06:41):
It game an iconic movie. I don't think it was
that herald when it first came out. It was the cast,
you know, with Lily, Tom Want.

Speaker 4 (06:48):
And all absolutely my mother though, used to watch that
damn thing like twice a week.

Speaker 6 (06:52):
I got.

Speaker 4 (06:54):
Yes, absolutely, they were trying to kill their balls, Darby.

Speaker 3 (06:59):
I can't remember that was Horrible Bosses before Horrible Bosses. Yes,
it was a film, buff Baby, Yeah, a little ahead
of its time, all right. We had three games Olier today,
just a little thought on the earlier ones together, you know,
little jobs at it. We saw the Packers upset the Lions,
and I you know, I heard Rob Parker ripping the

(07:19):
Lions out, saying the same old Lions. You an hour
number one pretty much saying hey, yeah, same old Lions,
and now we can't trust them. I'm not really ready
to go to that place till the last two games
have scared me. They've not looked good against the Bears,
but they pulled out the victory. Didn't look good against
the Packers. They made Jordan Love look like a Hall
of Famer for crying out loud. But I do have

(07:43):
some warning signs here. But I'm not ready to say
that it's the same old Lions.

Speaker 6 (07:47):
You know.

Speaker 4 (07:47):
I don't like saying the same old Lions because that's,
like I said, it's more cliches. I'll just simply say,
in my own VJ term, until I see them do different,
I'm not going to expect them to be different, even
at A three if they win next week, oh nine
and three, think about it. This is the first time
they've been and I know I'm gonna mess the year,
but I know I'm gonna be very close. First time
they've been eight and three, eight and two. Excuse me,

(08:09):
since sixty one, sixty two? Okay, all right, Okay, I
told you i'd be a year two bye early sixties. Okay,
that's dude, that's sixty something a year, Like, come on,
So if that's what I've seen from you since I've
been alive, and I was born in seventy seven, So
if all I've seen from you from seventy seven is
one playoff win, I don't care what your regular season
looks like. I'm still gonna judge you off of just

(08:31):
your history until you show me different. So I'm not
an in on the lines or out on this. Like, hey, man,
if you look at it.

Speaker 3 (08:37):
Kirk Cousins is gonna cop out a little bit your
you know, you know you're saying, okay because you're your
history is not good, then you know your future doesn't
look that bright either. They've turned it around after those
first seven losses. Look what the record is, they're eight
and three right now, and how many games did they make?

Speaker 4 (08:55):
I was about I was doing the math quick of
my I think so after the oh and seven start,
I want to say they're sixteen, No, sixteen and no,
because they won their live they won eight of their
last something last year or seven or leave something right,
and they got eight wins now, so out.

Speaker 5 (09:10):
What fifteen and four would it be?

Speaker 6 (09:12):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (09:12):
Like fifteen and four.

Speaker 3 (09:13):
That's probably one of the best, if not the best
record in the NFL right now over the last nine Teen's.

Speaker 4 (09:18):
True, very true. But when you look at that number
and then your eyes scroll to the right and you
see what team it is, you go, oh, oh, yeah,
that's the line. So no, yeah, you know, until I
see them do better, there's nobody, even Detroit fans. I
got friends in Detroit, even though Troy fans are like,
I'm I'm a wait. It's exciting, it's cool. They're winning
regular season games, but it means nothing if we win

(09:38):
the division, a bad division that lost Aaron Rodgers lost lost,
Justin Jefferson lost, Kirk Cousins. The Bears are a complete mess.
You should be eight and three right now with Golf
and Gibbs and Montgomery and satan am On Saint Brian
like you, the defense, the offensive line, they have one
of the best offensive line in football. You should be

(09:58):
eight and three when that Those are the variables.

Speaker 3 (10:01):
I'll tell you what I pulled up, the strength of victories.
That means teams with the most victories are victories with
the weakest schedule. Right now, the Saints, even though they're
only five and five, they're straight to victory. Is a
winning percentage of two seventy five. That means they beat
teams with that type of winning percentage.

Speaker 6 (10:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (10:22):
The Dolphins at seven and three only beating teams that
have won thirty percent of the time three oh six,
so they've it's not like they've had a murderous schedule either.
And the Lions three sixty eight, so not as bad,
not as easy as the Miami Dolphins right now, you
know what I mean?

Speaker 4 (10:39):
Yeah, And not only that, I'll simply just I'll propose
the question to you this way. If you were looking
at the NFC playoffs right now, tell me, tell me
who the line. Tell me who the Lions are gonna
be if when they beat the Eagles in the playoffs. No,
they probably were San Francisco, no Dallas, no Minnesota. Yes, okay,

(11:03):
so that's where they are. Well, Saints are also dividual.

Speaker 3 (11:07):
So the Saints right, yeah, okay, so yeah, so they
don't get any of the top three, but I think
they could beat anybody.

Speaker 5 (11:11):
Else they don't beat. They don't get this.

Speaker 4 (11:13):
They don't get the Saints either, because the Saints will
be the Saints to win the division exactly, so they
would even end up playing the way it's set up
right now. Either the Packers Seattle. I don't think the
Rams get in. They're sitting at Fort since ninety and Minnesota.
Hey look, man, I like what the Vikers have done,
and they really they really spit up on themselves at Denver.

Speaker 5 (11:31):
They should have won that damn game.

Speaker 4 (11:33):
You have got to get points on drives where they
weren't getting points on drives, and kudos to Denver. Everybody
wants to try to put it on Russell Wilson. I
know I love Colin, but that he's been waiting for
Russell to have a good stringer games so he could
get back to his on the Russell training was on
when he's in Seattle. But give the prosperit really needs
to go Vance Joseph since Miami hung a forty burger

(11:54):
on their head. Vance Joseph has really got this defense
playing really, really well. The Broncos are still averaging under
twenty a game, dude. Yeah, they won twenty one twenty
the other night, so they're not They're not putting no
damn Russell Wilson's not putting no damn points on the board. Still,
even with Devonte Williams back, even with Jerry, Judy and Sutton,
he still isn't putting points on the board. So I

(12:15):
would just say pump the brakes here on on the Broncos.
I don't think the Broncos are gonna make the playoffs
in AFC, but they beat the Vikings. I really want
to see the Vikings win that game. Think about they
win that game and then we see what they get
from the lines today. I want to see what the
Lions doing. There's pressure on him when they feel somebody
on the hills right now, they got a nice little
companying pressure.

Speaker 3 (12:35):
Now that's I don't think so Rock Rebels says, why
are you guys burning the lead on your updates. What
about blaand Sudden the all time pick six record? We
didn't bring that up for the Dallas Cowboys. New record
out there? How many nine five five touchdowns, five.

Speaker 6 (12:52):
And one season.

Speaker 3 (12:53):
That's phenomenal, unbelievable, And I.

Speaker 4 (12:55):
Think he knocked off. Uh he brought Eric Allen's record.
Eric Allen had a razy stupid year for Philly. One
you I can remember. Here's a really cool number. Deon
Sanders has nine in his career. This kid's always halfway there.
And I and listen to whoever the tweet was from. Hey,
I have a couple of IDP fantasy leads and people
don't know what that is. That means individual defensive players
along with your offensive players. You're kicking your defense too.

(13:18):
I have Bland on one of my teams today and
he scored me thirty seven points. So trust me, A
brother was all locked in to Dallas's defense and what
Bland was doing. So but as far as the NFC
goes with the with the Lions, it's not a cop out, dude.
I'm just like, what do you every You can only
see one thing, same old Lions? What else can you say,

(13:40):
you can't really have optimism like optimism for this team.
You think they can beat anybody of Dude, they can
lose a home playoff game, Arnie, I can see one
of these. I can see Minnesota going in there and
that defense is playing really well. Hey, Brian Flores, you
and I have history with that gentleman, right, ye, we
are his sure, but you know what he can do.

Speaker 5 (14:01):
He he sucks as a high coach. Okay, everybody knows that.
You know what he can do. Though he could coordinate
a defense, he con coordinate it. He's proven that.

Speaker 3 (14:10):
By the way, you mentioned Deon Sanders a few seconds back.

Speaker 5 (14:13):
Sure have you?

Speaker 3 (14:14):
Did you go to Mount Rushmore while you're in Los Angeles?

Speaker 6 (14:17):
I'm just kind of curious.

Speaker 3 (14:18):
No said he thought about Rushmore? Was it los Angeles?
I didn't know if you if you decided to go
yet or what.

Speaker 4 (14:27):
I was all in with coach, right, I still am.
I think he can really turn things around here. But
the way the second half of this season has played out.
I called him out on Martin VJ last week. His
coaching staff has to take a lot of the blame
for the way the second half of the season, or
really the second quarter of the season, three fourths of
the season has continued to go because if you just
put the tape and watch the tape, the players aren't better.

(14:48):
That's coaching. He needs better position go. And we know
Deon's not the coach. Deald's the CEO of this thing.
He's not the head, he's not the heck, he doesn't
call any plays on offense or defense.

Speaker 5 (14:58):
He's just got the headset on. He's the CEO. Man,
he's running it.

Speaker 4 (15:02):
Dion told us on twenty twenty, Hey, baby, this is
a business. This is I know all this around here
right now, all this that God gave me. This is
a business, right He told us what it is. He
has a hit song from back in the day. Must
be the money. Like Deon's telling us exactly what it's about.

Speaker 6 (15:17):
And who he is.

Speaker 4 (15:18):
We're trying to turn Dion into something that doesn't. I
My question is can he even really coach? Or is
he just a great pitch man and a one of
the best salesman we've ever seen in a cop in
sports period.

Speaker 5 (15:32):
I think that's more what.

Speaker 3 (15:33):
He toged the first three games, according to everybody that
was watching it.

Speaker 4 (15:36):
You know, we know he didn't though he didn't. He
just listen and it was good. It brought attention to
that school. In the first three weeks, he had made.

Speaker 5 (15:43):
That school ninety one million dollars.

Speaker 4 (15:45):
Wow, he had made them. Remember they didn't have the
money to pay him. Right when force contract he said,
the eighty said, but we'll figure it out. Dion said,
don't worry about it. I'm gonna make you three times that.

Speaker 2 (15:56):
And he has.

Speaker 4 (15:56):
He's made them over one hundred million dollars in the
in the in the black red and cells is bad
and the black is good. There are one hundred million
in the black simply because of who their head coaches.
And they can finish four and eight and still made
that type of money to turn it around the.

Speaker 3 (16:12):
Other games today, What do you make of Dallas's victory
over Washington? Set my close until they blew it them
out in the fourth quarter. I think it was twenty
five points or something like that. Then they flexed their
muscle on Washington. What do you make it of the cowboy?

Speaker 4 (16:25):
Very simple answer. When they got their ass kicked to
get San Francisco. San Francisco woke Dallas up. Watch for
Dallas the rest of this year. And going into the playoffs,
San Francisco woke them up. They have not looked the
same since that San Francisco looks they look dominating, like
they look dominating.

Speaker 3 (16:41):
Zach's by picked Dallas Miami was my Super Bowl pick.

Speaker 4 (16:45):
Mine was Eagles Ravens, and I still allive for it,
and I still like that. You know, I love my Dolphins.
But this was this was in July when we all
wrote our picks down here at the studio or August.
So I was just, you know, trying to be opted.
I was trying to be real, to beings, not be
a fan. I had the Eagles and Ravens, which I
I still like to this day. Yeah, but Dallas, Dallas
is Dallas is to be reckoned with Arnie, they better
wrote down my picks. I called up the the knuckle

(17:08):
on producer Mine. I said, put my picks down there.
Watch you're not You're not on the sheet because we
got like, try twenty five names on here.

Speaker 3 (17:15):
You ain't not on the sheet.

Speaker 4 (17:17):
I'll check doing a commercial break and tell you next.
Because I look at it every day when every time
I come in, I look at it just to see
how closed, like all the Bengal people all the Joe
Burrow and be upset.

Speaker 6 (17:27):
Man.

Speaker 4 (17:28):
I'll look and see if Arnie's I'll look and see
what the what picks they wrote down for you? So
you had Dolphins win at AMC and.

Speaker 3 (17:32):
Offense and the Cowboys and you text me that back
in like August, Yeah he did that was your pick?

Speaker 2 (17:40):
You text me that.

Speaker 6 (17:41):
Yeah.

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Speaker 3 (18:58):
Welcome back to Fox Sports Radio. Here a tyreck dot
Com Studios, VJ Husky, Arnie Spaniard for Jason Smith and
his best friend Mike Harmon. I want to get to
our guest. He's actually filled in for Ben Maller. After
we're off tonight. You can hear him on the weekends
on Saturday and Sunday. It's our buddy, Bertie Frado. How
you doing, Bernie?

Speaker 6 (19:17):
Where gluttony is not a sin? And I know my
arms retired, so I got to work through that.

Speaker 3 (19:24):
Bertie off the bet. I know you're the Michigan guy.
My friend what do you make of this whole thing?
How's the game going to be affected with no Harbaugh tomorrow?
And how do you see this coming out?

Speaker 6 (19:36):
Well, inside the locker room, they're actually fired up about this.
It's created some adrenaline. But let's break this down from
a handicapper's standpoint and keep it objective. This is basically
a coin flip game. Full disclosure. Three weeks ago I
grabbed Ohio State plus five and a half. So there
are technical factors that will affect this in fundamental factors.

(19:57):
These are the technical factors. Ohio State seventeen and three
is a dog since two thousand and eight. The last
time they were a dog was against Michigan in twenty eighteen.
They beat him sixty two to thirty nine, also nine
to zero in double revent situations, and since nineteen eighty seven,
there only been seven college matchups where both teams were
ten and her or better and the underdog was six

(20:18):
and one. Let's look at some fundamental factors. JJ McCarthy
without Jim Harbaugh on the sideline, has had pretty significant
offensive drop off. He's dropped off in completion percentage, yards
per pass, yards per game, points per game Michigan's averaging
thirty one points a game without Jim Harball on the field,
forty four points on the game with him, jjs throwing

(20:41):
four interceptions without Harbaugh hadn't thrown an interception all year
with him. Now, I know when Michigan ran the ball
thirty two times against Penn State and they keep beating
their chest about that. And if I had a nickel
for every time I heard him say that, Elon must
be mowing my lawn this week. So the bottom line
is they did it, but you're not going to do
that against any other team. And the truth of the
matter is Penn State had two elite pass rushers and

(21:03):
Michigan State could not protect JJ McCarthy. They know it.
That's why they ran the ball and they got away
with it. And tip of the cap. And by the way,
Michigan does have two offensive linemen banged up. Ohio State
has the number four total defense, the number two pass
rus defense. They also have two elite pass rushers and
J two to two Malawell and Jack Sawyer. Here's the

(21:25):
key to the game. Kyle McCord has to play clean.
He's got the best player in the country in Marvin Harrison.
He he connects on a hitcher out and takes it
to the house. That could certainly change the outcome of
this game, or change the tenor of the game. It's
a coin flip game. But there is one edge that
if you look at the film closely, you have to
be a little bit worried about. If you're a Michigan fan.

(21:45):
Eighty percent of the time, Michigan plays a defense called
a cover three. For whatever reason, Kyle McCord has absolutely
sliced up cover three looks this year. He's been very
explosive against cover three looks with a sixty nine percent
completion rate. Maryland did the same last week. They were
five point three yards per play. Iff to Elie hadn't
turned the bowl over three times, I don't know what

(22:06):
would have happened. It's a coin flip game. If Kyle
mccorr doesn't turn the ball over, I think Ohio State wins.
If JJ McCarthy can get some similar to a passing
attack going, I think Michigan wins. There you have it.
I've already grabbed the five and a half.

Speaker 4 (22:20):
Oh wow, my man, Big Bernie Frattle, VJ. Vernon Huss
and Vanilla Bay man. Happy Thanksgiving to you too.

Speaker 7 (22:26):
Man.

Speaker 4 (22:27):
So I'm not going bang on this Michigan thing too much.
I'll jump to the NFL a little bit. And some
of these spreads that I'm looking at tomorrow for tomorrow,
especially mymini Dolphins against some lovely bum ass Jets on
this plus ten. And Miami doesn't have a good record
coming out of a bye so and the Raiders have
been playing well. We were talking earlier the show. A
lot of times we have these intern coach switchovers. There's

(22:50):
a new, you know, boost of energy, and guys play
well and then you settle back into who you truly are.

Speaker 5 (22:56):
I love the Dolphins here at this plus ten. Tell
me I'm wronger, tell me I'm right.

Speaker 6 (23:00):
Well, let me put it to you this way. The
Dolphins are averaging thirty one points a game. The Jets
are avaging fifteen points a game with Zach Wilson, Are
you kidding me? Now? They go to Tim Boyle. Ironically,
Zach Wilson still gives them a better chance to win,
But you got to make a change. Tim Boyle is
zero and four as a starter. He saw what he
did with the Lions two years ago and didn't look good.

(23:20):
Doing it. He was at Connecticut. He threw one touchdown
pass in thirteen interceptions. But this is America. Even you
two can be in the NFL. I don't know how
they had. How the hell the Jets are going to
score points? That offense under Zach Wilson couldn't score in
a women's prison with a fifth full of fifties? How
they gonna do it with Tim Boyle? Tim Boyle, yeh
be better off with Tanner Boyle from bad News Bears.

(23:42):
I think the Dolphins, if they don't turn the ball over,
they go in and take care of business. It's a
stayaway game for me. But in all seriousness, Tim Boyle,
come on man. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (23:51):
Also eighteen and four in their last twenty two as
a favorite to Miami Dolphins.

Speaker 6 (23:57):
Yeah. Again, they're averaging thirty one points a game, the
Jets ravaging fifteen with Zach Wills.

Speaker 3 (24:02):
Yeah, yep, berdie the chiefs sort of laws Vegas. Take
it on the Raiders one. What's going on with the
Tom Brady situation there? Because if he does buy the team,
maybe that's a chance that Belichick can go there. At
what's the coaching situation? Will Pierce be the coach? Next
year do you think and how do you see this game?

Speaker 6 (24:19):
Well, Pierce is going to get an interview, and I
know Mark Davis has heard of a thousand times. He
blew it by not continuing with rich Bassacia because he
won the locker room, won four straight games and almost
won a playoff game, and Derek Carr took care of that.
And so the truth of the matter is Pierce is
very much in the running as well. I'm not going
to start mentioning names. Let's get back to the Brady thing.

(24:40):
And I don't think Belichick's coming here. But the bottom
line is this the Brady ownership Vegas deal. It really
hasn't been reported. It's all but falling apart. Guys. Here's
why Mark Davis said, Hey, Tom, you can own ten
percent of the team for one hundred and seventy five men.
The owners go, what the hell? The Raiders' evaluation is
six point two billion. Mostly we'd approve is six percent ownership,

(25:02):
and that would cost mister Tom Brady three hundred and
seventy two million, not one hundred and seventy five million.
So it's stalled for sixty days. I don't see it
getting revisited, not that it can't change. But if I'm
a betman than I am, that deals dead. That's been dead.

Speaker 5 (25:16):
Bertie Fraddle from Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 4 (25:17):
He'll be filling in for our good colleague later on
aufter this show. You can also catch them on the
weekends on The Bertie Fraddle Show Live right now on
Mike Harmon and Jason Smith with myself and Bernie and
excuse me, and Harney's maying feeling in another game in
the AFC that nobody's really talking about that I think
is huge. The Browns go to the Broncos. I thought
the Broncos got off easy. I thought the Vikings kind

(25:37):
of you know, with their pants and threw up on
themselves and lost that game. But this game is really
big as far as playoff positioning in the hopes of
the Broncos turning it around.

Speaker 5 (25:46):
They're eleven and two straight up.

Speaker 4 (25:48):
The Broncos are in their last thirteen against Cleveland, but
they're two and five against the spread at home. It's
feels like a flipping game too. Is just a point
and a half. I want to go Cleveland here.

Speaker 5 (25:58):
Talk me out of it.

Speaker 6 (25:59):
No, I'm not going to talk you out of it.
I'm not betting the game. But I think you're on
the right side. Denver's two and twelve against the number
and in their last fifteen as a favorite. Teams look
different when you dress them up as a favorite, and
you know Denver's been getting it done. But that Cleveland
defenses is for real. And even though Denver opened up
the season with three straight losses and they do look
a lot better, they haven't done well against CFC North

(26:21):
in past years. And I would tell you Cleveland and
the culture has changed dramatically. They know how to win,
and that defense under Jim Schwartz is absolutely for real.
I would lean Cleveland.

Speaker 3 (26:31):
Here, Bertie, I want to sprinkle into a little college
because Oregon States take it on Oregon. You know, I
gotta pull for Oregon State because Oregon loses, Arizona wins,
Arizona plays in the Pac twelve Championship. I got any
hope whatsoever, or I'm not feeling good. You're not feeling
good about it?

Speaker 6 (26:47):
Well, I actually think Oregon. I think Oregon and Georgia
are the two best teams in the country on both
sides of the ball. Oregon would have beaten Washington, and
Washington had their coach not gotten stupid, so sick of
this analytics thing. I feel like Oregon State gives him
a game, but I feel in the Oregon wins by
about ten. And I think that, and I can take

(27:08):
you the look aheadline of Oregon gets here to play
in the PAC twelve Championship. People be here in Las Vegas.
Washington's already in. There's already a look ahead line in
Oregon minus six and a half. By the way, Wow, yeah,
jet Fish in Arizona's done a great job. But the
Sharps already know are pounding Oregon. So I think Oregon
gets it done. And uh in corve allis and and

(27:29):
I think they's a Gene. It's a Eugene check check that. Apologies. Right,
it's home game for Oregon. I should I should get
my Oregon geography at least I know, at least I
know Mount Rushmore is in South Dakota. And I get
on top credit for rowning up to that. I really did. Man,
he didn't. He didn't try to make it up, you know,
like a Woody Allen movie or something.

Speaker 4 (27:48):
Hey, bro, let's stay in college football. Man, I know
you don't like they actually like pick teams. You're more
about just laying the lines out for us, giving us
all the rules. You're the best in the business doing it.
But I'm gonna try to you know, I'm gonna hold
you to the fire a little bit here.

Speaker 5 (27:58):
Man.

Speaker 4 (27:59):
When two weeks pass from now, we have tomorrow this
weekend Saturday, and then next week in all the conference
championship games by that following Monday or Tuesday.

Speaker 5 (28:06):
Who's the four teams that's playing for the College Football Championship.

Speaker 6 (28:11):
Georgia, Oregon, the winner of the Michigan Ohio State game.

Speaker 4 (28:19):
And.

Speaker 5 (28:21):
Hard when to get that fourth?

Speaker 6 (28:22):
Huh, Alabama?

Speaker 5 (28:24):
It is well, Alabama.

Speaker 6 (28:26):
If Alabama loses, they will not pick a two team.
Check that there will not be a two loss team.
There never has been and there never will be. All Right,
So you're gonna get the Big Ten champ. You're gonna
get Oregon the Pac twelve champ. I believe it certainly
will be them. Boy.

Speaker 5 (28:45):
If I could just throw us at you, do you
gotta squeeze Texas.

Speaker 6 (28:47):
In Gonna says, because they beat Alabama in Alabama, I
expect Texas to go on and win the Big twelve championship,
so they would be the one loss team. So I
think you have either an undefeated Michigan or and or
Ohio State team and undefeated Georgia team, a one lost
Oregon team, and a one lost Texas team. That would
be my found I.

Speaker 3 (29:04):
Like Arnie, what's coming up on the show tonight is
your film for Ben Mahler.

Speaker 6 (29:09):
We got all kinds of crazy and it says, you know,
it's a different show when you do his show. But
they do have Bill. I do have my buddy Bill
Crackman on. He's gonna come on at loven fifteen. We're
gonna talk about the f one situation here in Las Vegas,
and he's coming. We're gonna talk about the first ever
of course Black Friday game, and you know, we'll have
all all the goofiness going on in the world of sports,

(29:30):
like our good buddy Brandon Staley, and I'm gonna take
you deep into the mission situation. I want to talk
about the Barry Sanders Scott Mitchell I was there. I
recommend everybody watch that video or that hour and a
half feature on Prime. It's extremely well done. Bye by Barry.
I want to talk about Dave Clawson's remarks that he
made about Notre Dame they were only dating for a year.

(29:52):
In the whole situation with Sam Howell, you know, I
bet they didn't play that song for Brady Quinn. He's
like the number one passer of all time. But anyway,
all kinds of high jinks and goofinished plus my usual
what kind of brand new fool you? And what my name?
At two am Pacific? So happy Thanksgiving guys.

Speaker 3 (30:07):
Happy, thank you, thanks, thanks, though, we'll be tuning on it,
so we'll speak to you later on.

Speaker 6 (30:11):
Buddy, stay safe out there there you go.

Speaker 3 (30:13):
Bernie Frattos did forbid. Also, you can hear him on weekends.
That's coming up right after we're off. First, all, before
we do anything else, let's see what's trending. We check
in with our buddy Brian Finley for the last time todight.

Speaker 5 (30:25):
What's going on?

Speaker 8 (30:26):
Yeah, you're probably saying yourself, Farney, Thank goodness, it's the
last time. We don't deal with this guy anymore. Yeah,
So let's go right into what's happening in the NFL.
We had three games on this Thanksgiving Thursday. The last
one to wrap up saw it brock Purty throw a
pick six, but still the forty nine ers thanks to
two touchdowns that were scored on the ground by Christian

(30:46):
McCaffrey go on to win on the road against the
Seahawks thirty one to thirteen, and afterwards, Purty had this
to say about celebrating a big dub.

Speaker 6 (30:56):
Just growing up.

Speaker 9 (30:56):
You know, you're with your family and stuff watching the
NFL games go on, the postgame interviews and the turkey legs,
and it's just like a good time, you know, watching
it with your family. So to be able to be
out with my teammates after the game on a win
on the road, you know, eating some turkey legs and
stuff like that was fun. It's gonna be something that
we'll look back on and smile about and whatnot.

Speaker 8 (31:13):
Jaron Bland will look back and smile at the fact
that he has broken an NFL single season record with
a fifth pick six on the year, and he did
it that fifth for the Cowboys and they're forty five
to ten drobbing of the commanders were Dak Prescott the Cowboys,
Sig Nikola three four touchdowns, three hundred and thirty one
yards passing. Tony Pollard got a visit into the end

(31:34):
zone as well. Thirteen carries, seventy nine yards and then
the early game a tradition unlike any other, and that
is the lines playing on Thanksgiving and the lines losing
on Thanksgiving apparently as they go down, this time twenty
nine to twenty two to the Packers, and Jared Goff,
Detroit's quarterback lost not one or two, but three fumbles

(31:56):
in the game. College football one Marquee mat on this
Thursday in Starkville, the Egg Bowl, and it was number
twelve Old miss taking it to the nemesis, Mississippi State
seventeen to seven. So Lane Kiff and for a second
season in Oxford has the ReBs with a ten win
regular season. They're ten and two, hoping to get into

(32:17):
one of those New.

Speaker 3 (32:18):
Year's six bowls.

Speaker 8 (32:20):
College football to college basketball, and a plethora of top
twenty five teams were in action on Thanksgiving, including number
twenty Arkansas. They go down for a second time on
the season, and this time in the Bahamas against Memphis
eighty four to seventy nine. The Tigers are five and
oh the number three Arizona Wildcats somehow or six and

(32:43):
oh seventy.

Speaker 3 (32:44):
Yes, sorry, Spaniard.

Speaker 8 (32:46):
I'm not sure that you would have ever made the
team when you were there, but you probably might were bad.

Speaker 3 (32:53):
We were one in seventeen in the Pac ten or
Pack ten back then.

Speaker 8 (32:57):
I heard you didn't make the cut for the basketball,
but you were top five to be the mascot that year.

Speaker 3 (33:02):
By the way, I played sports in college, I want
you to know that like rec league that doesn't count.
I played water polo.

Speaker 5 (33:10):
Are like the inner mural team inner.

Speaker 3 (33:12):
Tube water tube. It was intermural watertub polo in a
murals Okay, yeah, Well you also didn't have to swim.
You got to sit on an inner tube.

Speaker 8 (33:21):
Well it wasn't that a site, especially probably with you
wearing a speedo. Yeah, much more than I'd.

Speaker 3 (33:26):
Like to do the same thing. Just that we didn't
have to swim.

Speaker 8 (33:28):
So well, that sounds like a sport that doesn't take
a lot of exertion of energy, which is exabably the
kind of sport your yes, yeah, yeah, So seventy four
to sixty eight Arizona over Michigan State, and I will
leave you with this guy's number. Fourteen North Carolina suffers
an l and they do so in overtime a three
to eighty one villain Nova rising to the occasion. Another

(33:51):
game that was played at the Atlantis in the Bahamas.
With that, let's get it back to one Arizona wildcat apologist.
They let him into the institution as a student. Not
sure how he got in.

Speaker 3 (34:04):
And yeah VJ.

Speaker 8 (34:05):
Husky, who is dominating as well.

Speaker 3 (34:08):
Thank you, Brian Finley. I hope you enjoyed your thanksgiving.
Up a good day tomorrow, enjoy your Black Friday, go
shopping like crazy out there live at tyreck dot com Studios.

Speaker 6 (34:19):
VJ.

Speaker 3 (34:19):
Husky, Arnie Spanier, I'm gonna be really in a bad
mood tomorrow when I do the show. If well, you'll
be on the air. But if my Dolphins lose, I
want you to know that.

Speaker 4 (34:28):
We're not gonna lose, No worry about it. I speaking
of Dolphins, Bernie, Arnie, I have a bone to.

Speaker 5 (34:31):
Pick with you.

Speaker 3 (34:32):
Oh what's that?

Speaker 6 (34:33):
Yes?

Speaker 4 (34:34):
You called me a fair weather Dolphin fan on I
I'm the only real Dolphins fan and the fans started
tweeting me.

Speaker 3 (34:44):
Did they really?

Speaker 2 (34:45):
Yes?

Speaker 5 (34:45):
That's why I text you about it. I was like,
hold on, a player, hold up, one thing we will
not do at Fox Sports Radio. You guys can make fun.

Speaker 3 (34:52):
I do that to Brian know too.

Speaker 4 (34:54):
I know you guys can make fun of you, and
all my goofing is I show up with my friend
Flintstone Halloween COSTU Morning Studio, make everybody wear the costumes
and all the goofy.

Speaker 6 (35:03):
Stuff I do.

Speaker 4 (35:04):
The one thing we will not do is we will
not disrespect the big Vanilla Funny brand and we will
not call VJ.

Speaker 5 (35:11):
Vernet Husky a fair weather fan of none of them.

Speaker 3 (35:15):
Didn't even pick the Dolphins and go to the Super
Bowl that.

Speaker 4 (35:19):
But you know what though, Oh, by the way, I
looked on the list year, they did write your stuff down.
Oh thank goodness, they did write your stuff, your MVP,
I saw everything. Matter of fact, you're out on the limb.
You have the Raiders going to the playoffs. Correct, So there,
so they did write your stuff that went and check
for you. No, bro, that's just because I don't pick them.
You want to talk about not picking them, Arnie? In
preseason you text me, oh my god, you see that

(35:41):
throw season over V just stop it, stop.

Speaker 5 (35:44):
It soon as Alnie, guys, let me tell you something.

Speaker 4 (35:46):
Arnie Spaniard and I have developed a really cool friendship
over the years we've been working together. This is the
most irrational Dolphin fan in the sports talk business. I've
ever come across the I'm a real fan. I can
tell you guys text messages I get after like a
certain play.

Speaker 5 (36:03):
Oh man, you see that throw?

Speaker 4 (36:05):
It's over VJ season done, armsteads down seas might as
well throw the year waiting like bro. Relax, man, it's
week two, Arnie. Yeah, that means fifteen more losses come.
Oh god, Okay, get off my phone. Get off my phone, Arnie.

Speaker 3 (36:20):
All right, I'll tell you what. One more segment to go.
Let's get to some pics with some games where you
can get to We'll get to some picks. Out's coming
up next right here on Fox Sports or radio.

Speaker 2 (36:30):
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