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(00:47):
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version posted right after we get off the air. So
here we are two days into the MLB Playoffs. One
series has been decided. I did three head to Game
three tomorrow. We talked a lot about the Dodger World.
More on that series, and now they got the Dodgers

(01:08):
Phillies coming up. We can preview that later on this hour,
but just have Schwarber and Otani go at it well
with wellk who's pitching for the Dodge? Is it the
starters or the bullpen? Because if it's the bullpen, I
really thought we'd just randomly select someone from the three

(01:28):
hundreds and see if they can put the ball over
the plate for a home run derby. Hey you yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
yeah you with the glove. You have a jersey on, right, Yeah? Okay,
come on down to pitch. Yeah, no, it's a Ganye jersey.
I could tell come on down maybe LEAs it'll look
like it. Yeah, Ed, We're good simulating Ganye. Do you
think there's been any talk about calling just to see

(01:50):
if Ganya can still throw a baseball? Can you still throw?

Speaker 3 (01:54):
The man?

Speaker 1 (01:55):
I've seen them show up at some personal appearances. Maybe.
I don't know how many years ago was he was
pitching for Canada right in the UH in the World
Baseball classes, right, Like, didn't he do that? Towards the end?
I want to say he did. It's like after he
was out of the game for like ten years, Like
I was, wow, look at this, let's see team Canada.
Eric Guan yeah, twenty seventeen. Okay, so just a short

(02:16):
eight year last pitching in the majors two thousand and eight. Okay,
so just just a short eight years of time. I
got old. How old is he now? How old is
Eric Gun? You know, let's see he was born and
he's forty nine. Oh so yeah, yeah, yeah he can
still get him. I don't know. No One Ryan was
going till he was like, I'm sure he can still.

(02:37):
You can't do any worse. And the Dodge actually activate
No One Ryan right now. I guess she'll bring some gas.
I bet you the Dodgers saying hey, uh hey, Sasaki,
how many innings do you really think you can go?
I mean, I'm just I'm not saying just I'm gonna
throw it out there, like if we bring you in
the fifth inning, can you finish the game? Like, because
there's nobody else we can really go to. I kind

(02:58):
of like the chaos struck. Sure there's nobody else, there's
no I almost feel like Blake Snell loosed that karma
on the Dodgers' bullpen, where you know, things were bad
for a long time, and the big start he had
near the end of the season when he waved Dave
Roberts offs that I got it. I got it, and
they had to send Vesia back to the bullpen like
that was a big moment. Like I wonder if that
was like the baseball God's going ah, waving a relief

(03:20):
pitcher back to the bullpen. Okay, let's say. Now let
me give you this little bit of special sauce. And
now all of the Dodgers were leavers, stink, and now
it's gonna be hey, man, I just had to Dave,
you stay in the dugout. Man, I'm just gonna keep
going on here till my arm falls off. All good, Well,
what do we get? Uh Yamamoto was up around what
one hundred and fifteen pitches tonight? Roki Sasaki when he

(03:43):
gets tired, either you go to the bullpen for a reliever,
or you have him throw lefty. I was gonna say,
do we have proof of concept that he cannot lefty?
I mean, I think I would trust him. He might
love amphibious. We don't know it. Yeah, you throw lefty
ton Maybe Otani can throw lefty? Why not? Maybe he

(04:03):
killed me. He didn't fiddle around with that when he
was recovering from his second, sir, maybe Blake Snell can
throw writing How crazy would that be? Though, Otani's on
the mountain. Dave comes walking out and he like totally
Mutumbo finger wags him. Yeah, yeah, says just throw the
other glove out. Yeah, just kill me the other glove.
And then you hear like the Undertaker. Wait, wait, wait,

(04:27):
what what's going on? You just watched this now you
I don't need another rule. He starts stealing left handed. Yeah,
come on, I mean, if you're the Dodgers, I would say, okay,
I would take any of those guys throwing with their
opposite arms over going to the bullpen. Yeah, oftentimes I
think that would be they would do that. I would
do that. Or you could just say listen, or you
guys just hit off a te and you gotta hope

(04:48):
that the that the Phillies just topped the ball hit
in the ground again, I gotta get really under that.
You gotta make sure we can get another rule change
in and say we'll take the physical challenge. No, I
don't know what that w beat. The physical challenge would
be bringing someone from the bullpen. Damn it, I thought
we had it. I thought we worked out another arrangement

(05:09):
non physical challenge. So while the Phillies are licking their
chops like it's a big piece of steak and their
Doberman's overfacing the Dodger bullpen. Uh. I hope the Red
Sox are happy, and they must be because clearly they
weren't gonna be happy today until they gave game to
a way to the Yankees tonight. We hope you're happy.

(05:29):
We should be talking about the end of the Yankee season.
The Yankees are done. Aaron Boone doing his last press conference,
taking off clothes and and autographing them and handing them
to the media. Here's my hat, here's my CLEAs each
sock they're gonna sign, they're gonna fire me. Here's the
stirrups that I wear. Take that too.

Speaker 4 (05:48):
Here you go.

Speaker 1 (05:48):
Here's a program from tonight. Here's Today's New York Post.
I'll sign that, hand it to you right like, they're like,
this is what we should be talking. It's not even
dry on his firing and he's signing. But the Red
Side decide, no, we're gonna give the game to the Yankees,
which was absolutely mind boggling. This goes to show you

(06:09):
that managers have bad games, game to game, just like
baseball players do. Because last night, what was a story. Well,
look at Alex Cora, he made the right decision. Stuck
with this guy, Garrett Crochet. Look at Aaron Boone, he sucks,
He's stupid, doesn't know what he's doing. Takes Max Freed out,
should have left Max Freed in all these things. And
again we told you last night. Get that whatever Aaron

(06:29):
Boone does is wrong. No one's gonna sage, right, that's
just the way. You're right. Whatever he decide, whatever he
decides is wrong. So Alex Coorra last night toasted baseball. Tonight,
Alex Cora costs him the game because the Red Sox
got so incredibly conservative, right, Like, how do you not
send Eaton home on that base hit? You know you
gotta be looking aggressive? How are you bunting with two

(06:52):
to one and nobody out in the seventh inning with
someone that clearly is not a great bunter. And I
don't understand those things like Duran dropping the fly ball
with Judge. I mean that that's just an awful play.
But like the Red Sox played tonight so conservative, and
I don't get it, Like you're trying to eliminate the Yankees,
and you're playing for one run the entire game, and

(07:13):
that's not gonna do it.

Speaker 4 (07:14):
Man.

Speaker 1 (07:14):
I mean you go to the seventh inning, right, you
go to the seventh inning of this game, where your
guy Carlos Rodin, and I say, your guy, he is
my guy. He is yet the latest White Sox, former
White Sox player who when he changes away from the
White Sox finds himself on a good team and playing
really well. Yeah, to be fair, he was pretty good
with us, right, but now you're still terrible, and and

(07:36):
you had Crochet and you had Rodan, and you let
these guys go and then you get to other locations
and suddenly they're pitching in the playoffs and they're playing
well and it's big. You know, you wont eighteen games
this year. I mean, come on, sixteen last year. I
don't understand that. I don't understand how that happens to you, man,
I really don't. Well, it's because they people tend to
thrive when they get away from me. I helped build

(07:59):
him up and then they walk away and they do
great things. Boy, look at all these good players the
White Socks. That what happened to him. They got rid
of them. Oh no, it's it's a consistent thing.

Speaker 3 (08:08):
Now.

Speaker 1 (08:08):
The thing is they were just okay, But then he
went to these other teams and now they're great. They
found a whole other level. They got away from his toxicity.
So your guy, your guy, right, your guy Rodin, your
guy loses it right away in the seven Okay, great,
he's done. He can't throw a strike, so they have
to go to the bullpen. All right, you have the

(08:29):
Yankees on their heels. Now, it's a three to three game.
You've come from behind again, and what do you do.
Rafaela tries to bunt, and clearly he wasn't comfortable with
it because he bunts. He makes a bad effort to bunt,
and he pops it up to the pitcher. Two outs later,
they're out of the inning and the Yankees squeeze out

(08:51):
that run in the eighth inning, right, but you know,
big hit by Austin Wells and they win for to three.
And we're talking about Game three tomorrow when we should
be talking about the end of the Yankee season. You know, me,
I can't stand the bunt, right, and much of an
old school baseball guy as I am. Bunting really doesn't
have a place in Major League Baseball. Doesn't because it's stupid.
Because anytime the only reason, the only way I will

(09:14):
say if you bunt to play for one run is
if it's the extra innings and you get out of
the top of the tenth inning not giving up a run.
You're starting with the ghost runner on second base if
you want to bunt to get that guy to third,
because you only need what. That's only need what. Okay,
then I'm then I'm somewhat okay, but I'm still not
because you're giving it out to the other team. Yeah.

(09:34):
The only time I was okay with it was when
we did that charade of pitchers hitting, because then they
can at least put the ball in play and strike.
Something happens. But but you decide to go unaggressive and
try to butt, you're thinking, think for a big inning
when you try to bunt. This tells me you're gonna
play for one run and maybe you get one run.

(09:56):
Not if you play for one run you get one run.
You play for one run, you maybe get one run.
Because it's not as simple as hey executing a bunt.
It's you have to be able to make sure the
guy up there can do it. And it's one thing
to execute a bunt in the seventh inning of a
game in Game thirty seven or Game one hundred and four.
It's quite another to execute a bunt in the seventh

(10:18):
inning in the playoffs in Yankee Stadium, when everybody's going
crazy and already nerves are up there and you need
to be focused more than anything else. Right, you put
a guy up there who gave you a really poor
effort at a bunt, And I saw so many people
melting down with this all, and they're focused on the
wrong thing. Oh, fundamentally, if you can't bunt as a

(10:38):
big league or you shouldn't be they're all fundamentally fundamentally
now you know what, that's a load of crap. That's
people that are watching baseball and think it's nineteen seventy five.
Guys can't bunt now. Guys can't bunt. They can't. It's
not an art that is taught. It's not an art
that teams generally use. Yeah, you want to think that
as a coach, boy, these guys should be able to bunt. Yeah,
but I've seen teams go home youth teams. I've seen that.

(11:01):
I've been part of it, part of a coaching staff
where we bunt. I go, why are we bunting? And
I've seen everybody go home. You ever fight because we're bunting. No,
we have disagreements, but like, but you're gonna lose, right,
This is this is a this is a losing strategy.
And with two ounce and nobody on, this could be
a big inning. Why are you playing for one run
in the seventh inning? This is not the ninth inning.

(11:23):
In the seventh inning, You're playing for one run? The
hell are you doing?

Speaker 2 (11:27):
Man?

Speaker 1 (11:27):
Really? It did. It didn't make any sense. And the
Red Sox deserved to lose this game. They deserve to
pop up to the pitcher. They deserve to get out
of that inning with no runs and give them momentum
back to the Yankees who find a way to get
that run in. That made absolutely no sense to me.
And I watched them bunting, and I'm sitting on the
couch watching the game with my wife. And as soon
as they bunted and I turned my if, I said,
the Red Sox just lost this game. I can see this.

(11:49):
I can see the end of this game coming down
a tunnel. If it was dark at night time and
I was wearing sunglasses, I can see the end of
this game coming. The Yankees are gonna win by a
run because the Red Sox gave this game away by bunting.
I really, I don't get the conservative nature. I don't
get all of a sudden doing You're trying to throw
a knockout punch, and again the seventh inning you're playing
for one run. That makes absolutely no sense. That's a

(12:11):
bigger thing they the entirety of the the knockout blow.
You got two runners on, you've got a new pitcher
coming in, he's cold, and you bunt something he's only
done five times in his career, which is actually a
higher than you and I would have expect. That means
he's bunted two one in three quarters times a season

(12:36):
successfully in his three years. And generally, you and I
watching as much baseball as we do here in the
Fox Sports Radio studios, when we see a guy go
to bunt, you normally kind of chuckle and go, wow,
they actually are doing it, because it was because when
we grew up. When we were growing up, the bunt
was a lot out of the game. Again, you had
a lot of weak hitting second basement catchers and of

(12:58):
course the pitchers. He bought the Hey twenty seven sacrifice bunts.
It was a big wow, okay. And then you had
guys that made it an art form, the great Jerome Walton,
who in his rookie year going all the way back
to nineteen eighty nine for the Cubs, he and Dwight
Smith were fantastic. But Jerome Walton, the speedy guy he was,
he had a lot of bunt singles like that became

(13:20):
part of his repertoire that led him to a Rookie
of the Year designation for that year. But you talk
about the bunt, it's the Yankees now, and you've had
their number all year, and if you go through game
to game, pitching staff have done a really good job
against the Yankees all year. Are you banking on that
continuing your long storied history against this franchise? You know what,

(13:44):
we get that one extra run across and I know
there's some of the adage my old the friend and
legend of the White Sox and broadcast Red Farmer. You
know the runs you put across leading after six, that
Matt like, no, no, you need more than one. Yeah,
and then after Chisholm makes that great diving play to

(14:04):
keep the ball from going to the outfield, but the
throw is in the dirt and the ball skips away
that you don't go around third hard towards the plate.
It's like two times in that inning you're left scratching
your head, going, this is the Yankees. Why are you
giving them multiple lives? It's all the horror movies. You described.
Make sure the guy's actually dead. Hey, a little off topic. Hey,

(14:25):
good move by Aaron Boone getting Jazz Chishm in the game.
How about that? Yeah, yeah, yeah, pretty good. Getting the
thirty thirty guy back in the gay. Sorry it's not
thirty thirty guy offensively defensively, did some things right. The
other guy hits a home run. I mean crazy, crazy stuff.
I could have managed the Yankees tonight. I could have
managed the Yankees. They would have won. As soon as

(14:49):
Rice hit the home run, I just started laughing like
that was that was the first baseball laugh of that.
You think Eric Boone was rooting for Ben Rice and
Jazz Chismen to play well, are rooting against them to play?
Big part of him that maybe five percent not too much,
all right, Like it's part of him that really didn't
care whether he kept his job. It's kind of like,
you know, I can see it. I can see the
percentage of it, because that's kind of how I feel

(15:11):
like if I'm watching the Jets and like I have
somebody on my fantasy team going against the Jets and
they get a touchdown, and I go, ah, well, at
least it was, you know, at least you know what.
I always made that argument. This is why you say,
you know, we were talking about fighting with former players
about fantasy football earlier. Quick story find the podcast the

(15:31):
full details of all of it. But the old thing was, well,
you know why you can't. You can't pick up Brett Favre.
You're a Bears guy. I'm like, on average, there are
about seven shutouts a year. On average, a defense is
gonna give up twenty one points a game. Shouldn't those
be on my fantasy team? Yeah, if I'm gonna get him,

(15:52):
I want them. If the Bear's gonna give up twenty
one points. But if they pitched the shutout, great, I
lost my fantasy team fantasy league that week, and the
Bears had a great week.

Speaker 2 (16:02):
I win.

Speaker 1 (16:02):
No yet, to you always say find your wins. That's
where I'm gonna find that win. That's it. I'm gonna
find if telling me I shouldn't draft him because he's
on the rifles, Like, no, he's still gonna score points.
I'm still gonna cheer for them to lose in shootouts
every week. Look, I'm glad the Red Sox are happy
they gave this game away to the Yankees. Thanks thanks

(16:24):
Red Sox for giving that game. No, I don't want
it here, you guys did it gives us free baseball tomorrow, though,
that is true. We mean we get for real. It
is three games tomorrow. We will pick those remainder of
the three games. Yeah, let's go. Coming up next as
well as audio, you absolutely have to hear from what

(16:44):
came from one of the playoff games tonight in Major
League Baseball. It's I still can't get over it, and
I've heard it now about six times. Is it about
the Dodger bullpen? It's no, no, no, that's us. That's
coming up next right here, Jason and Mike Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 2 (16:58):
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Speaker 1 (17:36):
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(18:00):
be the next manager of the Angels. Just yeah, look
really quick before your studio. Yes, okay, okay, And.

Speaker 6 (18:07):
I just hurt it live on Fox mot Radio Game Time.

Speaker 1 (18:13):
React. I delivered a team before anybody. All right. If
you saw a video in this studio, you would not
believe that.

Speaker 7 (18:28):
Okay, you're good, You're good, bro. Yeah it's over, are
you good. Now, it's okay, you're good. Be alright, Yeah done.
Don't take my beer. Beer, don't take my beer. Don't
take that.

Speaker 1 (18:44):
Yeah. Look before we get into uh, look the audio
outa here, just really quick. So supposedly Albert Poolholes is
the leading canon and likely going to be named the
next manager of the Angels, like many insiders saying, hey,
here's the finalist, like toy Hunter is up for the
gig as well, but like they feel like it's Albert
pool Holes. How about home off? All right, that was funny.

(19:09):
It was Albert. It's Albert pool Hools is to lose,
And I gotta be honest, I think that would be
a great hire right now. Look, he's he's managing the
Dominican Winner League, right, He's he's a franchise icon. And
you talk about someone who's gonna walk in and have
the cachet and have the respect of the players, and
someone who's going to bring a jolt of electricity to

(19:32):
a franchise that sorely needs it. Yeah, Albert pool Holds
back in baseball manager or the Angels. Yeah, I mean
he's not mashing anymore, but still you're bringing an absolute
legend back in there everybody remembers seeing. Uh yeah, I
think that that's absolutely the home run higher for the age.
You know what I have to ask, what's that? Will
he win more games as a manager than he did

(19:52):
during his tenure as a player? Will he had more
home runs as a manager? Or is a play can he?
Can he be a player manager? There's no more anonymous
team in Look. The Marlins are pretty anonymous, too, Rocky
the Rocky, Yeah, Rockies are pretty. But the Angels are
just absolutely they're an anonymous, especially here. They don't like

(20:12):
we're in Los Angeles for those unaware, So I mean
they're they're just that park that someone gets a couple
hours leave when their family comes to go to Disneyland.
But you look at the average baseball fan, they look
at the Angels lineup and go, I don't know any
of these guys. And there's a couple of great young players.
John Della is good, you tell me, yeah, and Theory
you know after a while, yeah he's not bad. Okay, Yeah,

(20:34):
But I mean like it's they're so anonymous. Copy's pretty good.
Go get yeah, sure, sure, I like his name as
o'hapy's nibbled to death. Buy an o'copy. But but you know,
Britain back Albert it's guy and I know it's an
okay a p I yes, big and Crosswords is an
no copy. But uh like, I think that's the that's
the like. At least you bring somebody back who is

(20:56):
gonna is gonna excite the fan base, is gonna be
a big hut. Even if it fails, it's the right
move because you got to do something to Hey, Okay,
it can't just be some anonymous are bringing somebody else
in who you know, here's a guy off someone's staff, Like, no,
go go get a franchise, legend, a little bit of
the juice to the organization, a name that for the
last twenty plus year. I mean it's twenty five years ago. Yeah,

(21:19):
already that that he and Itro Suzuki said he signed
with the Angels. It does seem that, wait a minute,
a long time ago. Can he keep Mike Trout healthy?
Uh no, probably not. Well, he'd be the one guy
who make them DH. Hey, Mike, you're gonna DH. That's
what I've been saying for years. Mike Trout needs a
DH keep in the lineup. You get out of DH.
Gotta DH. Now, speaking of the playoffs, I didn't have

(21:44):
this on my Bengo car tonight, that former MLB Ace
And I'm saying that Ace because like he came into
the league, like it was supposed to be amazing, but
his career was just somewhat good. Uh. Ben McDonald does
games now for in game analysts for ESPN and with

(22:05):
you know, for playoff games today, you know, Ben McDonald
winds up doing the Cubs and the Padres with Kevin Brown.
So in the middle of this game, you know, the
hockey season starting in a few days, right, October seventh
is opening night and ESPN's got a triple header opening night, right, Okay.

Speaker 3 (22:24):
So.

Speaker 1 (22:26):
ESPN, you know, puts out a promo for it, which
you know they do this all the time. Right on Fox.
You see promos for Big, Big Nude kick Off, all this,
they do a promo and all that to you know,
take you behind the curtain. All they're hoping for is
to say, hey, play by play, guys gonna read this NHL.
Can you do a fun liner about it and then
get back into the game. Right, But just we want

(22:47):
people to know that, hey, NHL season starting, we spent
a lot of money on this right, we got a lot,
a lot of the rights. Now we have a triple header,
including the Panthers raising the Stanley Cup banner for the
second consecutive year. Okay, so it's just a promo. I
just okay, nice and easy. Get him on, get him over,
get him in. Here's the graphic, dude, the red smile
pifty commentary. Go see. Except Ben McDonald didn't want to

(23:11):
play along with just the fact that Kevin Brown is
reading a promo for the NHL. Also, not that Kevin Brown. No,
not that Kevin Brown, the other pitcher. Yeah. Uh so
this is the play by play and it's Kevin Brown,
you know, trying to just you know, have a fun
liner before they get back to the game. But Ben
McDonald wasn't having it. The Blackhawks return to the ice

(23:32):
next Tuesday, NHL Opening Night against the defending champion of
Florida Panthers at five eastern, four Central mon ESPN A
triple header that night Penguins, Rangers, Avalanche, Kings. Ben, I
know you've got to pin on this Panthers three pete
this year. What do you think if you say so?

Speaker 2 (23:52):
I mean good luck to him.

Speaker 1 (23:54):
Are you asking if I'm going to be watching. No,
I know you'll be watching, of course, because you work
for you pen, you'll be watching. The zero chance to
watch and no one's gonna be honest, where will you think?

Speaker 7 (24:05):
I will be somewhere, But there's zero chance I'll be watching.

Speaker 1 (24:08):
All right, thanks, Ben, we'll be watching. Not only did
he say once there's zero chance I'll be watching? He
doubles down. No, no, no, zero, What are you gonna
be doing? I'll be watching anything but this. I mean, yeah,
I'm not gonna watch. I'm not gonna watch. And you
know there's almost Joe Namath like, yeah, yeah, if you

(24:29):
say so. Okay, Now, Kevin Brown's got to know at
this point, Ben McDonald's not gonna say anything about I
know that's so abdicate the bit. Okay, well here's the
thing and go on. But Ben McDonald, dude, don't just
don't just rain on the parade of a of a
pretty big I would say endeavor, but it's a big property,

(24:49):
you know, edit deals reportedly four hundred million a year. Yeah,
it's a lot of money that ESPN is paying out.
And you see when ESPN's gotta lay people off every
eighteen months it's a big be well, uh, you know,
just there's not being a fan. Look, I'm not gonna
really play along. I'm not a hockey fan. Okay, fine,
And then there's just you know, saying that, yeah, zero
chance I'll be watching I'm not gonna watch hot How

(25:12):
likely you're gonna watch that one? Zero? I really I
can't I can't wait to win it. He gets back
to Bristol wherever it is, and he's gonna get in
someone's office and go, hey, dude, don't be a knucklehead.
If you're not gonna say anything, just say nothing. Okay,
don't sit here and just and just and just you know,
whatever you're gonna say, just just rain on this parade
because I don't want to say what I really want
to say. Uh, it's like, you don't rain on this parade.

(25:34):
It's a pretty big vent. You want to say, don't
rain on my parade. I mean, it's a pretty big
it's a pretty big undertaking for your man. There's a
lot of hockey fans out there. It's kind of a
big deal because, like it was with all big rights negotiation,
at this point, who's going to retain them? Right? And
there was all the now they have the deal with
the WWE, and for the NHL, it's always a question

(25:55):
of who's got the television rights and how much are
they going to push the NHL. Right, that's the biggest
complaint from NHL fans. They don't care about us. And
for years it was they don't have the rights, they
don't care. Right. For the longest, NHL fans have always
been underserved because you know, they told, oh, you're not
as popular, not as popular. But the last few years,

(26:16):
you see the television ratings are getting better, so there
is there is a big market out there still for
the NHL. But like, you know, to sit here and say, okay,
how fast is it gonna be? Like, I can't believe
hockey fans haven't gotten together saying hey, let's everybody get together.
Don't watch Ben McDonald the next playoff game. Don't watch
the next game he does for ESPN. Ben McDonald's next

(26:36):
game is game one of Philly's Dodgers or whatever is.
Don't watch that game, right, Like, why would you? Why
would you put yourself out there where you embarrass the
company you work for. Like I get that it was
funny and as zero your chance of watching, but all
he's done is a fend hockey fan like John Bucigras
who jumped in right away saying zero. Also the number
of playoff wins in Ben McDonald's baseball career, right, seventy

(26:57):
eight and seventy for his career, like, like, why would
you do that?

Speaker 2 (27:00):
Man?

Speaker 1 (27:00):
And maybe I feel a little bit more. I'm a
little bit more thinking about that side of it because
you know, working in fantasy, like I did a bunch
of years ago with with NFL Network, like every time
everything we did right NFL when they started Fantasy Fantasy
Live and and show that's still on the air there,
and I was there for the first three years of
Fantasy Live, Like I can't tell you how many battles

(27:23):
we fought just to be taken seriously with the rest
of nfure. Right, it's a big thing the company put forward, Right,
it was a big It was a big effort that
the guy we're doing Fantasy now, I left all my
ESPN to go do this, right to go because I
wanted to go to DV. I wanted to do that.
And it was a big thing. And and at every
single turn possible, it was if we find a way

(27:44):
to make it. Yeah, it's just fantasy. Uh, there was
a way, there was a way to make that happen, right,
it was. It was really like, I'll tell you a
different story. When they redid the locker room or big
dressing room, which was right off of the stage. Okay,
so like a final year that I was there for Fantasy,
they made the dressing room what looked like a foot

(28:05):
into what looked like a football locker room was awesome, right,
you walked in your field, the other flock and every
single talent, every single person had a locker for their clothes.
They would hang their clothes and keep their stuff. It
was awesome, right, everything, and you had six lockers across
one side, then like twenty lockers across the middle, and
then like six or seven lockers across the end. Right,

(28:26):
everybody that worked there had their own locker. And then
you get to the end and there were two lockers
who just said fantasy guys. So now the seven of
us who did this show, right, Me and Money Smith
were the two hosts, and then it was you know,
we had five analysts. We had to share a lock
of the seven. It was just fantasy guys. Oh, we
don't need to go. Meanwhile, the numbers that we did

(28:48):
on NFL Network were right in line with everything else.
But still it was all fansies not taking seriously, why
would you do this? Why would you spend every moment?
And there's there's analysts there who were really took every
chance they could to make fantasy seem like, ah, it's
really not the same thing. Like as good a dude
as Kurt Warner was many times on the air when
he met yeah, fantasy yeah not yeah, yeah not not
not a big fan, Like come on, man, this is

(29:10):
a big thing for the company. It's what we do.
And and and you're now, it's not real football. It's
not real football.

Speaker 4 (29:15):
You know.

Speaker 1 (29:16):
That was that was a thing, right, I could I
could point you the to the Thursday night football game
where we were all set together doing that when Kurt
Warner's like, yeah, fantasy is great, but I want to
talk about real foot people want to talk fans on this.
I want to talk about real football. I'm like, dude,
fantasy is a big deal, man, And and so I
guess I'm a little more sensitive to something, but that
just because I've seen it. But it's still it's it's
a big company directive and like you don't have to

(29:37):
sit here and say you love it, but like you know,
don't go out of your way to insult it. Just see, hey, yeah,
if you if you say so, yeah, okay, yo go panthers.
Yeah you say panthers. I think uh, I think you know,
pitt panthers. You know, whatever you say say, what do
you want? I think like there's ways to do it
and not just make it seem like, wow, you just
really embarrassed ESPN and hockey fans everywhere. No, but that's it,

(29:59):
Dragon Cash, categorically dismissing what is obviously a big property.
I think the total total built was two point eight
billion dollars for the rights, So you know, I'm sure
there's a meeting room. And the producer did a bad
job on this. And for Kevin Brown should have realized
after the first time he said it just layout, Ben layout.

(30:20):
Let me let me just finish this. I'll do a read,
I'll do the time again. Uh and we'll be done. Yeah.
I've got a full chapter or three in my eventual
memoir about very much fantasy kind of being cast aside
as the little brother when they until they realized how
much money it generated. Oh and then everybody embraced gambling,

(30:41):
which was waiting after everybody on my legs. Now everybody
right on the back of the fantasy land, and I
was that. Look, Kurt Warner was a great dude to
talk about. I'm like, okay, but you don't need to
as a lot of those players did didn't like you
used to have to try to explain to them the
difference between you know, how that bridge happens and and

(31:02):
why fans were buying jerseys of guys charity. They drives
that started to happen because of a winning fantasy season.
It's like, all right, a couple bucks to his favorite charity,
thank you, and you get all that stuff pushed. There
was a lot to it that they tried to dismiss,
and then eventually I think they realized a lot of

(31:22):
their checks were dependent on those, you know, fantasy people
sticking around exit out about a Fresco exit swollen dome.
Jason Smith Mike Carmon Live from the Fox Sports Radio studios.
Time now to find out what's trending in the wide
world of sports from a guy who it's just been
announced he will pitch the eighth inning of Dodger playoff games. Yes,

(31:42):
it's Isaac Lohenkron. Just whatever can you throw?

Speaker 4 (31:47):
Like forty I low kilometers per hourkilometers knots, forty knots.

Speaker 1 (31:55):
Yeah, nice.

Speaker 4 (31:56):
Yeah, most people's change up is my super So I'm
I'm plotting sort of an ephis pitch like trajectory, just
parachuting in there, cross your fingers and leave the rest
up to fate. Twelve to six like Chicago Software. Oh
that's right. Of course, you could time that twelve to
six with the sundial. But you know, we'll take what

(32:17):
we can get if you're a fan of the bullpen. Indeed,
in Game two of the National League Wildcard Round on
Wednesday evening, the Los Angeles Dodgers did advance to the
National League Division Series with an eight to four victory
over the Cincinnati Reds. Of the Dodgers take the Wild
Card Round two games to none. Mookie Betts four hits,
three doubles, three RBI. Yoshinobu Yamamoto struck out nine and

(32:40):
six and two third scoreless innings for the wins. Of
the Dodgers advanced to the National League Division Series against
the Philadelphia Phillies and guys. Dodgers manager Dave Roberts announcing
after the game show, Hey, O'tani will be the Dodgers
starting pitcher in Game one at Philadelphia on Saturday. So
that's gonna be Otani's first rear postseason appearance on the mound.

Speaker 1 (33:03):
Has he named the bullpen pitchers yet for that game?

Speaker 4 (33:06):
Yeah, he kind of buried the lead with that one,
and the bullpen pitchers are everybody. Earlier Wednesday, the New
York Yankees forced to decide in Game three with a
four to three win over the Boston Red Sox. They
were tied three to three in the bottom of the
eighth inning. Austin Wells of the Yankees at the plate,
and here was Dave Simms on WFA N three.

Speaker 1 (33:27):
Two pitch Jess runs, pitch, swing on light, right right there,
fair ball pick up, shas coming right third, Rohus waiting
Jess coming down the line. Here's the throne of the plate,
the slides he is, he is there, he's in there.
The Yankees hot the lead. It's four three, New York.
I'm standing up in the studio.

Speaker 4 (33:48):
That didn't sound like Susan anyway. The deciding Game three
between the Yankees at.

Speaker 1 (33:52):
Red Sox tomorrow also Wednesday.

Speaker 4 (33:56):
Also Wednesday, the Cleveland Guardians forced the deciding Game three
with a six to one win over the Detroit Tigers,
and the San Diego padre Is forced to decide in
Game three with a three nothing win over the Cubs
at Wrigley Field.

Speaker 1 (34:10):
I'm standing up in the studio. I'm having to guys,
I like that's a good promo.

Speaker 4 (34:17):
The rundown Tomorrow Tigers, Cleveland three O eight Eastern, Padres
Cubs five O eight Eastern Yankees, Red Sox eight oh
eight Eastern on Thursday.

Speaker 1 (34:27):
Back to you, guys, Thank you, ILove great stuff tonight.
Thanks Hello. Coming up next, Yeah, who's walking away with
Game three between the Red Sox and the Yankees. Will
tell you end when a Dodger celebration goes a little
bit wrong. You'll hear the audio coming up next right here,
Jason and Mike Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 2 (34:47):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
pm Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.

Speaker 1 (34:59):
I got the Dodge bullpen on my mind. Three guys
can't throw it all. One for the ninth inning. No
one else can pitch it all the Dodgers bullpen.

Speaker 2 (35:12):
Dodgers bullpen.

Speaker 1 (35:16):
It's not just a bullpen, but their defense is really bad.
Fox Sports Radio The Jason Smith Show with my best
friend Mike Harmon. Yeah, I would destroy Papa Doc. So
Dodgers beat the Philly Dodgers beat the Reds tonight. They
looking ahead, They draw the Phillies in the next round,

(35:38):
and clearly the Phillies. Every single bit of strategy is
just go as deep into every count as you can.
Foul off it, get the starting pitchers out of the game,
because when we get this bullpen, we are gonna feast.
It's gonna be like in a zombie movie where all
of a sudden, like you know, one of this, we
catch one of the slow ones. Ah, that's it. All
the guts are all that we are gonna feast that

(36:00):
Dodger bullpen right Sasaki is their closing. This is how
desperate the Dodgers are. He has pitched a grand total
of three innings since he came back from the injured list.
Two holds last week ended the regular season, and he
came in to pitch the ninth inning tonight after the
bullpen almost gave it away again for the second night
in a row. Three batters, two strikeouts, a soft lineout.
He's their closer the rest of the playoffs. That's how

(36:22):
desperate the Dodgers are. Sasaki is now their closer the
rest of the play because there's nobody else you can trust. Right,
So maybe he made a desperate maybe crazy like a fox,
and you just stumble into something good. Right, You go
out going, I don't want to meet anybody, I don't
want to talk anybody, and all of a sudden, you
have one of the best nights of your life. It's
gonna be Kershaw on the eighth and Sasaki in the ninth.
Churser was not even on the roster this time around.

(36:44):
It's gonna be coming out of the ball. I dig this,
So that's gonna happen. Right, the Phillies, I mean at
the Phillies are They are just foaming at the mouth
to get at this Dodger bullpen. Now, before that thought,
let's talk about the Dodgers celebration tonight. This is great.
After the game, Dave Roberts talking to the to the
team about celebrating and uh, you know, hey, congratulating team.

(37:06):
But but Walsall wants him to know, Hey, they're not
nearly done. Now, listen to Dave Roberts as he is
giving his speech, and you hear as he's still talking,
the champagne corks popping prematurely with Dodger players. Well, Dave
Roberts is talking. Take a listen. My only ass is.

Speaker 6 (37:27):
Every single guy being ready to keep your minds like
we're gonna need every single one.

Speaker 1 (37:39):
We need our focus. I mean, everybody's gonna need to
be ready.

Speaker 5 (37:44):
Now.

Speaker 1 (37:44):
First of all, A couple of things, A couple of things.
First of all, what Roberts is doing. He's telling everybody
you all might need to pitch at some point. Freeman,
Betsy K you know what, Ray my guy, you might be.
You might be my seventh inning guy. You to Kershawan,
all right, so let you know, hey, get ready. But
you hear the popping of the court. And you know
what made me think of is that I'm sure you

(38:05):
did this in school, like when the period was going
to end, and like you looked at the clock and
you knew what time the bell rang it in school
and the teacher is talking and you just don't want
to do anymore. So like you push your chair in
in front of you or something, or you squeak back
in your chair. And because once one person hears it,
they're all gonna get up and like the no one's
gonna pay attention to the teacher anymore. So that's something

(38:26):
is they're just like popping the cork. Dave, you gotta finish, Dave,
you gotta finish. You got to finish, ready to held
out as long as they could. Damn it, I didn't
think he was gonna speak. Dave, you gotta finish, Dave, Dave,
you gotta be done, Dave, Dave, you gotta be done.
Play it one more time. I want to hear exactly
how many Champagne corks we pop before they yell and
he's done. Go ahead, let's play one more time.

Speaker 3 (38:46):
Done, one, one, three, five the.

Speaker 4 (39:07):
Day.

Speaker 1 (39:07):
If you're done, man, we're done listening to you. We
love you, but we're done listening. But you can just
see it like they're they're working to take the to
the court. It's like he's still going. It's like, ah,
the pressure's built up again. So Dodgers Phillies get going
before that. We have we have three game threes tomorrow
until we talked about it earlier on taking the Tigers

(39:28):
to win. To look, they can't leave fifteen guys on base. Again,
they're the better team. The Guardians can't hit it all,
which makes me mad. They're in the playoffs, uh elsewhere.
I will give you this. I will give you the
Padres and their bullpen get it done against the Cubs,
and because they let them up off the mat, they
score a ton of runs tomorrow they move on to

(39:49):
the next round of the playoffs. Give me the Yankees
over the Red Sox. The Red Sox had a chance,
they got conservative, they they played terrible tonight. They gave
the game to the Yankees. That general doesn't happen where
a team gives a game away and comes back the
next night on the road and does it. I'll take
the Yankees to win tomorrow and they go on to
the next oooh, there you go. All right, I've got
the Tigers, I've got the Cubs, and then I've got

(40:10):
the Red Cubs. You're a White Sox fan. You can't
pick the Cubs. Dude, you can't do that. I'm not
gonna let you do it, Okay, And then the implied
odds thus far came out. Dodgers and Phil's Phills fifty
six percent odds to win that series exit out about
a Fresco exit, swollen dome for Mike. I'm Jason, my

(40:30):
buddy Ben Maller coming up next. This is Fox
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