September 19, 2025 • 41 mins
Jason Smith and Mike Harmon react to Clayton Kershaw’s emotional press conference announcing his retirement after 18 MLB seasons. The Indiana Fever are better off without Caitlin Clark if they win the championship. And give credit to the Miami Dolphins!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Mike and I love putting this content out for you
every single night. Thanks to Jay Glazer for stopping buy
a few minutes ago again only show. Jay Glazer does
(01:08):
like insight, Insight, insight more than you want. Great stuff
on Josh Allen and the Bills and Tua. We'll get
back into that game coming up in a couple of minutes,
but just really quick before you get into the Clayton Kershaw.
You know, you could tell Jay is really vociferous. Hates
the fact that the you know, the people that don't
like the Toush push and want the Toush push to stay.
I think it should stay. I love the Toush push.
(01:30):
I think it's a play that. Okay, the Eagles have
figured out a way to do so it's great. You
want innovation, like you want teams to be able to say, hey,
I'm innovating a way to do things right. The Patriots
at the forefront of that for a long time and.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
Figure out dog that dog eared rule book that malegihead
to the point where I think this formation is legal,
but you know what, we don't like it. Yeah. Against
the Ravens when they were managing no, no, this is by
the book, this is okay.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
For the penalties, he was able to say, I'll take
the five yard penalty on this punt and that's gonna
better for us.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
Right.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
Certain things he would do, you know, math and there
was stuff with the play clock that Belichicks would do
to and you know what, but once it got to
a point where hey, this is not quite super legal,
that's when all those things went away. And that's why
I say the biggest thing, the best thing that the
the haters do is say, hey, we're now bringing up
that and Dean Blandino, Dean Blandino's gonna be the guy
(02:23):
that gets his play band right because he's the one
that was the loudest on Sunday, you know, former director officiating.
He's everywhere, Hey, this play is really hard to officiate.
I'm done with it. WHOA Okay? Now that that's the
narrative like it's it's got a shelf life on it
of this season and that's it like that. That's why
that's why I brought up at the end of our
conversation with Jay, the question of if it does get
officiated quote properly right. Again, it's difficult for the officials,
(02:49):
but say they do call those false starts that everybody
was quick to get the overhead and say, there it is.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
See those guys move that guy the right tackle. He
was a if those are now penalties and we see
maybe every other every third time they try to run it,
they've run it eight times. Ready they get penalized the
five yards for a false start. Does it fix itself
to where it's all right? Now? The math is much
different than hey, we're getting at a ninety seven percent clip.
(03:18):
So maybe you fix the glitch that way and you
actually don't have to put a rule in Ellen.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
Just think about if you're the owners they have to
vote on this thing in the offseason, is they're gonna say,
we're gonna vote on this again. You know what, Fine,
I'm done. I'm done. I'm done like Dean Bland Doudo,
I'm done with the touch person. There's gonna be that
fatigue as well that this continues to be a story
and owners are.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
Gonna say, Okay, we're done. Okay, you're And it could
be just as simple as okay they have a tough
time officiating it.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
I'm done, like I've already made my decision. No matter
what happens the rest of the year, this is it.
In the NFL is saying they're gonna officiate it tighter
on Sunday. That was a big story tonight. They told
the officials, hey, when you do this game that hockey ly,
you know, make sure that this is what happens. I mean,
you know, you know it's done, Like how many, how
many plays? How many iterations of it?
Speaker 2 (04:03):
Do you think Sean McVay sent to the league office
to point out false starts, misalignments, Igali, I.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
Would love for the first play and we'll talk Eagles
Rams tomorrow night, one of the biggest games of the week.
I would love first play at Eagles Rams. They run
the toush push first intent. We're gonna run it just
because we can.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
Now if they run it back and they win at
Levi Stadium, they win another Super Bowl, but then it
gets banned. Yeah, do they build a statue to the
tush point? No? No, no, no no.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
Then there's an asterisk because they used a rule that
has since been banned to win the Super Bowl. And
then you walk up and you press a button and
it plays something from Sir Mix a Lot. I like
big Butts and I cat What else from Sir Mix
a Lot is it's a lot of songs about ass
you say something, Really, can you name one other song
other than Baby.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
Got Back Put Them on the Glass. That's a real song.
You sure just make that up? You just made that up?
Actually showed up in a playlist because I'm riding around
with my daughters. What's the name of the song? Put
them on the Glass.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
I like big Glass and I cannot lie you win
next people can't deny.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
I mean, glass does rhyme with ass, but I mean
this one is a little more about the other end.
So we got more football coming up in a few minutes.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
We will get to the Bills and the Dolphins big
takeaways from Thursday Night football. But today we saw the
announced retirement of Clayton Kershaw, Dodger superstar who said, this
is it for me, retiring at the end of the year.
And two big things to get into in the next
couple of minutes as we hear what he had to
say in his press conference today. Number one is, oh, man,
(05:39):
I don't know when the moment's gonna be, but there's
gonna be a moment between now and the game tomorrow
because tomorrow is Kershaw's last home start of his career,
like in theory, because they do have the playoffs, and
I'm sure Kershaw will pitch in the playoffs somewhere. Sure, right,
you have a good enough season to be on the
postseason roster. Healthy, Yet he's gonna pitch at some point.
(06:01):
But you're looking at the game tomorrow, being his last
home start, you would think he's gonna pitch one more time.
But maybe they say, you know what, we're gonna keep
your fresh here last game Dodger Stadium. We're gonna keep
your fresh for the playoffs. And that's it. Like that's
all we're gonna wed tomorrow might be it.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
Would the other one would be uh, on the road
at Seattle, maybe yeah, him against the cal Raley.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
But uh, at some point between now and the game
time tomorrow, fans across the country are gonna sit back
and realize, Wait, this game's only on Apple TV. I
can't I can only get the game on Apple TV.
I don't have it. I don't want to spend that money.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
What the hell is going on? It's Apple TV? Come on, man,
what is Apple TV? Who is Apple Tree? What is
Apple TV? Can you explain that to me? According to
a quick review, uh, it claims there's over forty five
million paid subscribers. It's a lot, a lot more people
than I would have thought.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
Yeah, yeah, when what will you think of like ESPN
and f S one or like ninety ninety five?
Speaker 2 (07:06):
No, no, but forty five millions. Still, I wouldn't have
thought it was that. I so good for them. Wo man,
But I mean you can get ted Lasso Severance, and
I just want to see Kirkshaw's Last Start. Severance is
too slow. I don't like the pacing. Cough up a buck,
you cheap. I can't watch Kirkshaw's Last Star. Hey, it's
(07:29):
gonna brought Hey by any chance you have Apple TV?
Oh yeah, yeah, good, I'm coming over. Well wait, I'm
coming over watching Kershaw's Last Start. Man, you bring me
enough food you can watch. Okay, I charged how many
a couple of guys at my passwords. I'm gonna be
maxed down. I'm gonna try to log in and they're
gonna say this, you're on too many logins.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
But if anybody calls you tomorrow and asks if we
have Apple TV, you tell them no, tell them no,
we don't have it.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
I want to watch them squirm. But yeah, no, certainly
the Friday Night package. We've seen this over the course
of the year. A number of big games are like
start of a series or someone going to extend to
streak or whatever. It's like, Wait, that game's only on Athlete.
It's like, yeah, that's it Friday night. Sorry, buddy.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
Now, we got a big take on Kershaw coming up
in a couple of minutes, But how about we hear
from him a little bit of what he had to
say today at his press conference. The greatest left handed
picture that I have ever seen. Calling it quits the
end of this season. Here he was talking about it
earlier today.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
This is weird.
Speaker 4 (08:26):
I have a lot of thank you to get through,
and I'm not I don't. I can't have time today
to do a justice for all the people that have
helped me along the way and got me to this point.
So today I'm just gonna gonna keep it short and
sweet and then you know, be able to really tell
people just how grateful I am for everybody that's in
this organization, that's in this room, that's been here later on.
(08:49):
But yeah, I'm gonna I'm gonna call it. I'm gonna retire.
We've talked about a lot, ell and I talked about
a lot. Kiddo's talks about it a lot, and I
met peace with it. I think it's I think it's
the right time. And it's been a it's been such
a fun year. I've had such a blast with this group.
I've had such a blast with all you guys. So yeah,
(09:14):
I can't think of a better season to go it out,
go out, And we still have a lot to accomplish
obviously this month, and the last thing I want to
do is be a distraction to anybody for accomplishing our
ultimate goal to win in the last game of the season.
So we're going to get through this today and then
we're going to go win the rest of the games
and be good. But just a few thank yous, Mark
(09:37):
and Todd and Ownership, thank you guys so much for
everything that you've done for me. And Andrew Gomer Slater's,
Slate's front office, stay in Lon, everybody, Thank you guys.
You've done so much for me and my family. And
then I don't know where Doc is, but Doc, and
thanks Doc, and uh the whole coaching staff, Thank you guys.
(09:57):
I know I'm a pain sometimes, so thank you. Thank
you for putting up with me. And then Thomas and Possum,
whole training staff. You guys are the best, so thank
you for helping me get this carcass out on the
field every fifth day and appreciate it and then uh,
you know travyav strength guys. You know there's a whole
(10:19):
article about my bowl now, So thank you guys for
helping me with that Ali Clubhouse guys. You guys are unbelievable.
Everything you do for this team, y'all are at the
glue for real. So thank you guys.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
So there are people he left out like that was
that was longer than anybody.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
That won an Oscar. Well no, I mean like he
was going person for person on this team, and eventually
I think he's going to do a three hour block
like he's at an award show and they keep trying
to play him off, going no, no, I'm only up
to two thoy fourteen, shut up. I want to thank
my agent, Ari Gold. I want to thank everybody at
Leviathan Pictures and of course our wonderful director Steven Spielberg.
(10:58):
I mean, I don't know what else to say. All
my all, my fellow nominees, my co stars, to the
people in Craft Service, A hey, those to the gaffer,
those finger sandwiches were great, The cucumber and the mayonnaise
were perfect. To the best boy and his understudy, what's
the key grip do? Set? Up lights, but all of that,
like he just kept going and like talking about the
(11:19):
clubhouse guys and and all the way down and you
just saw that that smile and a couple of times
he starts to lose it, like you love to see
a guy who's been characterized as the reddest ass of
Oh yeah, right, seven eleven. What do you need seven eleven?
I pitched at seven ten.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
That's right, as I know, I was a pain in
the ass that Yeah, if I don't throw the first
pitch at seven ten, I think I'm actually.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
Gonna get that on a shirt. Seven ten. No, they
thank thank you for putting up with me. I know,
I'm that.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
Could that could that could serve so many different meanings.
Yeah yeah, well is that oh that's not you a
personal message? Oh oh god it but it could play
it No, just in general, I mean take it, take
it as you will. Can be walking my dog.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
You decide I'm a pain in the neck that day.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
I'll tell you what, when you think about Clayton Kershaw's career,
there's so many things that come to mind, right, and
we'll get to the playoff part of it coming up
later on this hour. But everything he's accomplished as great
as he has been, getting best left handed pitcher that
I've ever seen, better than Randy Johnson, better than Tom Glavin,
best left handed pitch I've ever seen. When you say
Clayton Kershaw to me, the image that I will always
(12:27):
have the first optic in my head is this, And
this shows you. This tells you why he was so great.
Is the first pitch of an at bat. His ability
to throw his curve or his curve with a slider
grip or a slider with that, you know, he's always
kind of cagy about here's how I hold this.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
It's kind of my slider. It's kind of my curve.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
But being able to throw that pitch over the plate
for a strike on the black where the hitter just
can't get to it but it breaks so late right
on the black, or hey, i'll give you one on
the middle of the plate because I know you're not
going to be able to hit it. That's such an
unbelievable advantage for Kershaw to have, not only look starting
(13:11):
off at oh to one, but not throwing a fastball
for that first pitch, which a lot of pitchers do.
I try to throw something a little bit harder, a
little bit off the plate, or sometimes when we know
we're in a time in baseball history where everybody's taking
the first pitch, I'm not able to throw it right
down the middle, but Kershaw being able to throw that
and having it break over the plate where the hitter
(13:31):
has no chance to hit that right has no chance
to hit it, and you start ohen one and the
hitter is saying, Okay, what am I waiting for now?
Because it's not like Kershaw through ninety eight, ninety ninety
through mid nineties, right, which was still really really good,
but look, left handed pitchers don't generally throw that hard.
Randy Johnson was the was the exception of that. You,
but being able to have that kind of control over
(13:53):
those pitches, like, I can't tell you what kind of
advantage that is, And it's just amazing that I would
see it and go just snap it right off every
single time and here and it's not like a like
like a hitter would be able to hit it and do.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
Damage with it.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
Like if a hitter said, okay, if I'm getting that
curve or that slider, that slider with the curve with
a with a slider grip or whatever it was. If
I'm getting that, I'm gonna swing at that first pitch,
what are you gonna do?
Speaker 2 (14:17):
You're gonna hit something weak to the right side.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
You need to get into the at bat and hope
that Kershaw misses on a location because those pitches are
impossible to hit, and that advantage was so huge for
him starting out so c and if he's behind in
the count, I'm gonna throw that pitch for a strike,
be able to throw your curve for a strike that's unhittable,
that doesn't rush to that pitch right and it doesn't hang.
(14:41):
It's a twelve to six, it doesn't hang. It's not
gonna be something where uh oh that it's gonna mistake
is gonna be in the seats, throwing that pitch, first pitch,
wherever in the at bat.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
But just my image of him is.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
Okay, Kershaw, here's Alonso, there's a curve strike one like great,
here we are, and now the success rate for Kershaw
his way up. And now suddenly Alonzo goes from when
it's one and oh, he's hitting three twenty two. When
it's oh to one, he's hitting two oh seven, which
is what every hitter does. Right whenever, Just like the
the Jonah Hill line from Moneyball, every pitch is like
a hand of blackjack, your odds changed. And Kershaw always
(15:15):
being able to throw a strike on that pitch and
an unhittable strike is just mind blowing him that that's
always gonna be the image and the option. You say
Clayton Kershaw's name, it's him snapping that off for strike one.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
Yeah, the curveball, certainly first part I joke about the
red ass, but that like, that's always it. So when
you get the glimpses of the back and forth, and
it would have been blested out here in La five
seventy l LA Sports being our home here in Los
Angeles for Fox Sports Radio and our connection to the Dodgers,
(15:45):
you know, when you do get him with vasse a
or with the guys on air and joking a little bit,
it breaks that that fourth wall for a minute, because
otherwise it's all right, this guy's going to work right.
It's like the guys I always loved with the White Sox,
where the guys like Mark Burley, I'm getting the ball
and I'm going back to work right. And that's Clayton
Kershaw to a t through his eighteen years that we've
(16:07):
watched him evolve to this final season and what he
is as a clubhouse leader and everything else. But yeah,
the curveball is the first and lasting, indelible image to
all of it. Snapping that off and then giving the
rye smile like all right, I got you, now let's play,
and watching the catcher go along for the ride, and
then staring down Dave Roberts keeping him in the dugout,
(16:29):
or watching Dave Roberts sheepishly have to send someone down
to ask Clayton if he wants to go back for
another inning. All of those little thing glimpses that we've
gotten through the years. But yeah, it's the evolution of this.
And look crafty, Southpaw. I was a junk baller once
upon a time, so respecting the craft when you don't
always have an overwhelming pitch like we talk about with
(16:52):
Johnson coming in at ninety eight miles an hour tour,
even in an All Star game, you got guys joking around,
changing their helmet, changing their stand. It's John Cruck and
he one of the great back and forth ever. But
you know that intimidation factor, it was no you just
have to try to outwork him. Then most of the
time you came.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
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Speaker 2 (18:51):
Remember when he was fun? Remember when Balmer said I
was I was duped? And Pablo Torri keeps coming out with, hey,
I got paperwork right here that says you got all
new about it. Here's another thirty million you got duped
out of. I think it's up to like one hundred
and eighteen million or something like that. The last number
Pamlo Tory finds out about everything. How many more pages
(19:11):
does he have? Does he have a little mountain of paperwork?
Speaker 1 (19:14):
I know, man, I just hope he's got enough work
here to stay away from Jalen Brunson in the Knicks. Okay,
just let's stay stay away man. That's going to turn
out to be the biggest mistake. And now just trying
to see this out here, the whole Kawhi Leonard getting
all kinds of money so the Clippers can circumvent the
salary cap. When when Steve Balmer went on Sports Center,
(19:37):
like the day after this broke and said, Hey, I
was duped.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
I was duped.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
I'm just a businessman worth all kinds of billions of
dollars to make big time smart decisions. But I got
duped by a guy. Now it doesn't mean you can't
make a bad decision. And trust somebody, say, how did
you not get b roll of him? Just planting one
damn tree?
Speaker 2 (19:54):
One tree? That's all you needed to do. Kawhi, We're
putting a shovel in your hand for four minutes. This
this guy's gonna film it. It will live forever.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
And here's what you gonna bring a couple of different
shirts so it looks like you're doing.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
That's it's all you. That's all you gotta do. A
couple of polos. Here's an extra pair of kicks.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
Let's go bring five shirts for twenty eight million dollars.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
Hey, I can do that, but tell you what, we'll
supply the shirt.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
I mean seeing the interview and seeing the information that
Pablo Tory had today about how hey, here's the money
that went through and here's the letter from the Clippers
acknowledging the money. Like that's gonna wind up being the
worst thing. Balmer saying I was duped. Like that's like,
that's the most about I was duped.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
I didn't know.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
I didn't know anything about this. But here's all these
signed documents, here's all this stuff come about.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
Yeah, I don't know. I was duped. You know what
people can do with docu signed these days. I was duped.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
So there's a hot take we've talked built that there's
a lot of toilets there, you know, flush them all
at once. There's a hot take we've talked about tonight
that I said is ridiculous. Now gonna take it to
the next level. Okay, here we go, So.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
We'll get to two in a couple of minutes. That
was my best back draft. That was good. I like that.
That was good. That was good. Did the fire look
at you.
Speaker 1 (21:07):
It looked at you, didn't it It looked at you.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
Were you the one on top of the fire engine
with Jennifer Jason Lee?
Speaker 1 (21:14):
Was not?
Speaker 2 (21:14):
Was that you? Was that the other Baldwin guy? Was?
Was that a prequel to him becoming presidents? No? Eight?
Speaker 1 (21:22):
So the Fever win their first round of the playoffs tonight,
right the Lever, They eliminate the dream. Of course, we
know they're playing without a lot of their stars, including
Caitlin Clark, who is the WNBA and I told you
you're gonna get the hot takers coming up. People are
fighting with themselves right now to be the first ones
in the next few hours to say the Fever are
(21:44):
better without Caitlin Clark. Okay, the Fever are better without
Caitlin Clark, right, which is ridiculous. She's a top five
player in the game. Nobody is better off without a
top five player. You wouldn't say that about anybody else
in the NBA. If the Bucks start winning, you wouldn't
say they're better off without Giannis if he was out,
you wouldn't do that, right. You wouldn't say, oh, the
Sixers are better without him beat Oh wait wait, bad,
(22:05):
bad point. You wouldn't say the Warriors are better without
Steph Curry, Right, you wouldn't say that. But because people
still want to hate on Kitling Clark, that that that's
gonna be a narrative. Now, I'll flip that on its head. Now,
is that is that an absolute truth? They got the
Aces coming up next, right, and the Aces won what
eighteen of their last nineteen game? They were a much
tougher first round that you expected. But uh, you know, clearly,
(22:27):
Asia Wilson. You know, look, still best player in the WNBA.
Not gonna win MVP this year, but still is the
best the best player has been the best player. If
the Fever win the title, Okay, if the Fever win
the title, that would change the argument because if you
can win a title without playing with your best player,
(22:48):
not just hey we had a run for a couple
of rounds in the playoffs without our best player. We
found a way to win because it was a short
amount of time. This is they played the vast majority
of the season and the entirety of the postseason without.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
Caitlyn what thirteen games?
Speaker 4 (23:04):
Right?
Speaker 1 (23:05):
Yeah, if they win the title, I'll tell you that's
when that hot take becomes legit. Because if you've seen
teams win championships where a guy gets hurt and a
team goes on and win time, Right, the Giants won
a Super Bowl with Jeff Hosteller, who is their backup quarterback,
beause Phil Simms got hurt, but he plays well in
a couple of games. Right, we watched the Eagles win
the Super Bowl. Carson Wentz was an MVP candidate, probably
(23:27):
gonna win it, but he gets hurt. Nick Foles plays
a couple of games in the regular season. Eagles get
hot in the playoffs. They win the super Bowl. We've
seen that, but this is the entire season and the
entirety of the playoffs. They win the title, then that hot,
then that hot take changes, then that can change.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
Otysea Sims in the final seven seconds, finding a wide
open a Leah Boston for a layup and then hitting
a free throw to ice at two point win. Ready
fun with odds your favorite the Links minus one forty five,
followed by the Aces You get plus money plus one
seventy nine okay, followed by the Liberty, Liberty, Liberty, and
(24:06):
the Phoenix, both at fourteen to one. Okay, You're Indiana Fever.
Yeah plus seventy five hundred. Let's bleep and go one
of my odds.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
Caitlin Clark changes her mind and comes back at some
point in the play.
Speaker 5 (24:19):
Oh, I know it's I'm ready.
Speaker 2 (24:21):
No, I feel pretty good. I feel really I don't
think I have those, but we'll ask. I might go
for it.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
It's like in a meaning of life, bring out your dead.
I might go for a walk today. No, you're dead.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
You're dead. Not feeling better? No, no, no, you's only
a flesh wound. No, you're dead.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
Yeah. So again that's where that hot take change. I
love that a little bit.
Speaker 2 (24:38):
But even after tonight, folks getting a little get ready,
get ready? Okay, you want two out of three?
Speaker 1 (24:43):
Okay, you remember you won two out of three, two
out of three and head No, I didn't TJ.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
Clearly, as meat Loaf told us back in nineteen seventy seven,
Paradise is by the dashboard life fantastic fantasy baseball player,
by the way, was meat Loaf? Uh?
Speaker 1 (24:58):
You mean owner fantasy bait? Like you owned a team?
And oh you said fantasy bait. I'm like I never had.
I never had meat Loaf in any of my fantasy
I never drafted Meatloaf.
Speaker 2 (25:09):
He was. It was a fantastic addition to every rock
and jockey ever participated him. Who's your first pick? I
was gonna take Bryce Harper, but I'm taking meat Loaf instead.
With my second pick, I'm taking Rick Darringer, Hey Blake Meetloaf.
I'm taking Jim Steinman with my second pick. What he
does without the right or brains by uh No.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
First Thursday Night football goes to the Buffalo Bills, and
for the Dolphins, I give them credit because this game
was way closer than.
Speaker 2 (25:45):
It should I said last night.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
If they win this game, it's the biggest upset of
the twenty twenties. As bad as the Dolphins have started
this season, they're the number. They're team number thirty two
in the NFL for a reason because other teams are
bad like they are. But these other teams have all
cleared the decks and are starting over now, and they're saying, Okay,
this is our settling year. We get back at it
next year, right. Teams like the Jets and the Browns
they said, listen, we've we've done the clean out. We're
(26:09):
starting over. Seeing a bit of that hard reset. Absolutely,
the Dolphins still have that hard reset ahead of them
after this year, and then next year will be their
year one of the reset. So that's why they're team
number thirty two. And yeah, it's easy to say Mike
McDaniel's going to be gone because he is Tyreek Kill
will get traded because he is. But you're seeing this
(26:29):
to be the last year in Miami for two a
tongue of Vailoa. And it's not just because of the
interception tonight, which was an awful throw and it's something
that honestly, he's got to know better for because he
throws this pick. Look, they're down by a touchdown, they're
driving late, and you mentioned it earlier in the show.
He's going back and he's trying to throw a pass
over the middle. He does not have the arm to
(26:50):
do that. He barely has the arm to go downfield.
Other quarterbacks have the arm. I really wish. I can't
remember who the quarterback we saw was on a Monday
or Thursday game in the last couple of weeks where
going backwards they were still able to zing that ball
into the flat and hit the running back in stride
for a fifteen yard game, right, And you have to
have the arm to do something like that, Tua backing up,
(27:10):
throwing the ball over the middle of the field gets
picked off by Bernard, and you know, Bernard just just
baited him into it, thinking that, Okay, he doesn't see me,
doesn't see it.
Speaker 2 (27:20):
You can't do that if you're toa because you don't
have the arm for it. Now, Miami's been able to
game plan around it and at times figure out the
best of Tua, but as we've said, Tua's never really
gotten the hug of being the clear cut franchise guy,
even though he has the big contract. And if you're
moving on after this year again, new head coach, new
offensive philosophy, because Mike mc daniel kimin saying we're gonna
(27:42):
do this, this, this, We're gonna be fast, We'll be
the fastest team in the NFL.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
Whoever comes and new is gonna say, I want my
new guy, I want my own guy. And so and
the fact that Tua is really he's been diminishing the
last couple of years because the offense isn't nearly what
it was a couple of years. Like eighteen months ago,
this offense was taken the NFL by storm, and it
was a new way, we're gonna be faster than everybody
and the way to a processes the field. He's gonna
(28:06):
be able to really excel in this. They're not dynamic anymore.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
To it.
Speaker 1 (28:10):
Threw for one hundred and thirty yards tonight. They don't
even run Devon ah Chan doesn't run for one hundred
and twenty yards like he did two years ago. This
is it's not the same offense. And Tua's become kind
of just a guy. And so it's not gonna be
the case where they where they release him here because
the dead cat money is too bad. He still owed
a lot of money for next year and if you
want to keep him because he's got the out after
(28:30):
twenty twenty six. But some team is gonna say, hey,
we can do a lot worse than to it. We've
seen him flash right in the league where they make
starters in the right systems out of Gino Smith and
Sam Darnold Baker, Mayfield is now an elite quarterback. He
just had to find the right system. There's gonna be
some some mad scientists head coaches that say, yeah, I
(28:50):
can make two into a star again. Sean McVay might
be a guy that says something like that, if JJ
McCarthy's terrible, Kevin O'Connell might say something like that, Right,
we've seen Tua have better years than some of those
guys I just mentioned. So yeah, there's gonna be teams
out there for him. You can always figure out the money. Again,
it's not a long term thing with Tua. With the
money that he's due, you can figure that out. It's
(29:12):
not gonna be worth a lot draft pick wise, compensation wise,
it's gonna be Miami needs to start over. And if
you're drafting at the top, you're drafting Garrett Nussmeyer, you're
drafting Arch Manning, you're doing something at the top of
that draft, you're drafting Lenora's Sellers, whoever it is. You're
drafting someone that high you're going to trade to because
you're gonna need that fresh start. And again, good news
for the guy is there will be teams out there
(29:33):
saying we're okay with it, and as long as we're
figure out the money, which you can, because you know, look,
Russell Wilson had a lot of money.
Speaker 2 (29:40):
He's untradeable. He got traded.
Speaker 1 (29:41):
Aaron Rodgers do a lot of money untradably. He got traded.
The money is there to fix, to fix, and it's
gonna be. It's gonna be the Dolphins deciding we're just
gonna move on for a fresh start. We're not worried
about the compensation. We tried to make it work, it
didn't to it gets a fresh start. We love the guy,
and his injury history is something that we're still gonna
be a little nervous about as well. There will be
that that market forum because you're not into tour for
(30:03):
more than a year or so, and maybe you turn
him into something and.
Speaker 2 (30:07):
If not, well, we didn't give up a lot for him.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
We figured out the money and we'll start over with
with a quarterback the year after that. So yeah, he's
going to be tradeable. There's gonna be teams that want him.
And honestly, if you're the Dolphins, you kind of have
to because when you think, when you think about the
landscape of a new coach and knew everything that's gonna
be coming in, it's okay, we're gonna try to make it.
I'm gonna try to make it work with a guy
(30:29):
that has real flaws. His arm strength is not great.
You know, I don't know that he's dynamic anymore. We're
gonna make it work with him just for a season,
just being a guy. Okay, We're we're you're we're setting
back our reset because you're setting back your reset for
a year because your new coach is gonna want to
come in and say, Okay, next year is our year
to reset, and then we're taking off. If you give
him to it next year, it's gonna be okay, well
(30:50):
we kind of come in, We're gonna take a year
to reset with to it. Then our resets you then
you're talking about you reset being three years away.
Speaker 2 (30:57):
No one's gonna do.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
That's why the Jets decided, hey, Aaron Rodgers were moving
on because if this doesn't work with Justin Fields, we'll
get a quarterback after the draft this year. But if
we move on from Aaron Rodgers, if we keep them
for another year, then we're moving on. Then we're getting
a bridge guy, and then we're getting No, we're not
going to postpone the future.
Speaker 2 (31:14):
So you see all that, you understand two was going
to be gone after the season. Yeah, I'll be curious
as we flow into the season. Obviously, the difficult start
and they've been they've fought pretty well after giving up
an early lead to New England. They battled at least
and then you have this game tonight and get a
big kickoff return, take the opening drive. All of that
fine and good. You know what's funny is a lot
(31:36):
of the talk that we've had and one of the
great threads through the offseason and in the regular season
is my train wreck of a situation to most as
related to the Bears. Two of fits a lot of
what you bet Johnson and coaches of his ilk K
want right, play on time, deliver the ball and go.
(31:59):
But the armstrong obviously, the one thing that's the caveat,
and that's the thing with McDaniel is that you had
those advantages. Now. Is Tyreek Hill still fast? Yeah? Is
he's still as fast as he was two years ago.
I don't know. I haven't clocked him running forties and
deep balls a lot, but certainly that timing has been
taken away. Right, You've got to have that next pitch.
We're talking about kershaw and developing and refining and becoming
(32:22):
more of a pitcher as you get older, as guys do,
versus being all right, it can be a good thrower
and occasionally hit the spot. No, you've got to be better.
Likewise as a quarterback, you've got to be able to
do it. The moon balls and everything are fine, but
for to a tongue of aloa, you know, driving the
ball into a spot right, the interception that he throws,
if he can put that on a rope, it's a
(32:43):
completion and we get to see what the end of
that drive is. Instead it's thrown to an area to
go run under it. Well, defender's going to have a
break on it and make a play, and so those
timing issues are going to be off. So a chan
Tyreek Hill pending his off field stuff and everything else.
Like these guys will all be gone and traded for
assets for next year's draft. And that becomes the question
(33:07):
with two, are you rebuilding with him? I'm gonna guess not.
To your point, find that partner that thinks they can
fix him, the quarterback whisper as it were McVeigh or whomever,
and you move on from there.
Speaker 1 (33:19):
Exit out a bout a fresca, exit swollen down the
Jason Smith Show with my best.
Speaker 2 (33:24):
Friend Mike Carmon. I mean, in the right set.
Speaker 1 (33:26):
Look, there's always a right system for someone there's always
and that's why I'm kind of bullish on his next
start somewhere as long as he can stay healthy, because
a team that's gonna trade from is not just hey,
we need a quarterback, let's go get him. It's gonna
be hey, he would really work in our system because
we can do X Y, and it's got to be
a team with a strong head coach like a Sean McVay,
because you know what, they want to move on from
(33:47):
Matthew Stafford. They're likely gonna move on from him after
this year because of all the every year, I don't
know if I'm gonna play, it's more money. Now he's injured,
and they want to get get out from him a
year or two early rather than the y or too late.
But it's gonna but there will be a biggest, established
coach that you know, maybe one of the young the
young guns in the League's that not I know what
to do with him and we can make it work.
Speaker 2 (34:06):
But that's the curiosity, right. How many teams are long
form to where you have that level of stability. It's
a handful. You have the offensive line that's going to
keep him up right when he plays right. We know
the accuracy is there, Like, that's what it is. It's
about timing, It's about accuracy. Is completion rate usually one
of the tops in the league. Problem is, we've only
got one game with a proof of concept beyond thirteen
(34:29):
games played.
Speaker 1 (34:31):
Exit ut about a Fresco exit swollen dome. Jason Smith,
Mike Harmon coming up next.
Speaker 2 (34:35):
Yeah, we get a little bit more from the NFL.
But a hot take on Clayton Kershaw's retirement. That isn't
gonna go the way you think. Now give me that again.
That's next Fox. It's ten years too late. Wow.
Speaker 5 (34:50):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
pm Pacific.
Speaker 1 (34:58):
We'll got that big hot take from Clayton on Clayton
Kershaw coming up in a second but story. Today, Ian
Rappaport NFL Network talked about this and some other sources
that maybe Kirk Cousins is done, that there's not a
lot of interest in other teams training for.
Speaker 2 (35:15):
Him, and maybe he's not gonna be a starting quarterback
ever again in the NFL. Now, is it because of
his contract?
Speaker 1 (35:23):
Clearly some of it is because of his contract. But
the talent level wise, you don't know, because clearly with
some teams having injuries, you would think they would have
at least had exploratory calls with the Falcons going, hey,
we're not here quite yet, but what would you think?
What would you do for for Kirk Cousins? And no
one's called the Falcons yet, And you know, I gotta
(35:44):
think at this point, unless Cousin says, listen, tear up
my contract, I'll do something new, he's just gonna sit
there and collect whatever he can from the Falcons until
they release him or buy him out, and that's gonna
be it.
Speaker 2 (35:56):
Base twenty seven this year twelve five, signing his cap
hit of forty million dollars, So there you have it.
Dead cap money was seventy five million. So all this
off season it became the all right, how much can
you get Arthur Blank and company to off set to
(36:17):
make it happen? Well, nothing transpired, get a couple of
guys hurt, and I'm sure he was salivating until he realized, well,
Brock Purty may be back this week. JJ McCarthy's a
couple of weeks, but you have Carson Wentz. So they've
got it established backup Joe Burrow, but Browning's been there
a couple of years, and you saw he was winging
(36:38):
it around just fine receivers and Chase brown I'll help
bail you out there. So yeah, not gonna be a
lot of interest. You gotta wait for that next round
of injuries, perhaps someone getting really desperate.
Speaker 1 (36:51):
Now to Clayton Kershaw and the retirement announcement, Today's last
start at Dodger Stadium tomorrow night on Apple TV.
Speaker 2 (37:00):
Can't wait watch it if you can. I got my
log in, Benny. Evidently you get you get an account
if you buy a new iPhone. Oh okay, get someone
on Twitter. So I've not corroborated that, but that's why
he estimated, which gets us to that forty five million.
Speaker 1 (37:13):
Number instead instead of just spending ten dollars on Apple Plus.
No I buy a new iPhone for five or six hundred.
Speaker 2 (37:19):
If I get my eight hundred dollars phone, they're gonna
give you my ten bucks a month. Aha. All right? Yeah,
see how I screwed them over math this math and
benne So.
Speaker 1 (37:29):
Part of Kershaw's legacy, obviously is his playoff performance, which
not quite nearly what it was in the regular season.
But it's unfair to use that and say, ah, Kershaw's overrated.
Here's why it's unfair, and why a bit of a
hot take, because you can't really do that in the postseason.
Clayton Kershaw is a five hundred pitcher. His era is
(37:52):
about four and a half thirteen and thirteen four forty nine. Yeah,
it's it's not awful. He's not two and fourteen with
an ear eight. He's had some big games. He's had
some games where he didn't pitch well.
Speaker 2 (38:03):
Right. I think if he pitched.
Speaker 1 (38:04):
Well and some more winner go home games, maybe it
would be different, right, just a couple more, it would
flip his legacy. But he's not been terrible, right, He's
not potent. It's almost like Payoe peyton manners.
Speaker 2 (38:14):
But no.
Speaker 1 (38:14):
Peyton Man's record of the playoffs was about five hundred.
He was pretty He had some bad games, but he
had great games. He won Super Bowls. The reason I
say this is because now, Kershaw, you want to go
eighteen years back to the late two thousands, right, give
me a guy, Give me any starting pitcher in the
last eighteen to twenty years not named Madison, Bumgardner that
(38:35):
you would say, that's the guy I want on the
hill for a playoff game.
Speaker 2 (38:39):
I would say this, and we got some great feedback
over the course of the show. Appreciate it at how
about a fresca at Swollen Dome at Fox Sports Radio
that you go down the CV and a couple of
folks were bringing in guys that were slight overlaps into
the Kershaw era. Remember enters the league in two thousand
and eight. Well, Pedro Martinez doesn't count because he retired
a year later, so we don't want him. Uh. We
(39:00):
talked about Shilling again, that's earlier, right, That's the Andy
just era was earlier. All of that. So you got Bumgarner,
who you mentioned eight and three Bumgarner phenomenal, right, I
can't argue with that. Sixteen appearances, but not nearly the
picture that Kershaw was in the regular sho that's just it.
And just trying to grab a couple of postseason pitchers
justin Verlanders seventeen and twelve, three five eight E R.
(39:23):
Kershaw again, the thirteen thirteen, four four nine, four point
eight one eight strikeouts per walk, all of those things. C. C.
Sabbathia ten and seven four two eight. Yeah, I mean
then and then I got I got one guy that
I would say, okay, let's you can have the discussion.
But again, give me the largest of what Kershaw was
is Garrett Cole eleven and six two seventy seven for
(39:44):
his playoff and forgot to cover first base. Remember that
that that took that e ra in that record and
turns it to he's six and twenty five with the
era of eleven and I never won a damn game
that mattered.
Speaker 1 (39:56):
But my point is is that look at all those
guys he said, none of them are under beatable, none of.
Speaker 2 (40:01):
Them are blowing away the numbers. That it's a bygone
era of the stud pitcher. You have pitching game one,
game four, Game seven is gonna go seven innings and
give you shutout ball and you're gonna win that game.
That's not the way baseball is anymore. So if you'd
be fair about Kurt, no, Kershaw was an average pitcher
in the posts. Again, I would have love him to.
Speaker 1 (40:19):
Be better, But it's unfair to say, oh, all the
playoff failures because nobody else had great. Look, I said,
best left handed pitcher ever Randy Johnson Randy Johnson under
five hundred the playoffs ra was near four. It's unfair
to blame Kershaw for that because nobody else has been
able to pitch at the level you wanted Kershaw to
pitch that, so that criticism overall, now you look at
(40:39):
his career as totality the last twenty years.
Speaker 2 (40:41):
This is how baseball is. It's unfair, but it goes
back to the Peyton Manning, Drew Brees, whomever else. And
while we can chuckle when you compare him to the
history of say Brady, you still gotta get there, and
they got you to the postseason. And for Clayton Kershaw,
that two run differential, yeah, that's but you still had
to get him into the dance.
Speaker 1 (41:04):
Exit out about a Fresca exit swollen Dome. Clayton Kershaw's
last out on Apple Tomorrow Night. Get your loggins ready.
Speaker 2 (41:11):
The Fever are better without Caitlin Clark.
Speaker 1 (41:14):
From Mike, I'm Jason, my buddy, Ben Mallar coming up next,
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a few minutes ago again only show. Jay Glazer does
(01:08):
like insight, Insight, insight more than you want. Great stuff
on Josh Allen and the Bills and Tua. We'll get
back into that game coming up in a couple of minutes,
but just really quick before you get into the Clayton Kershaw.
You know, you could tell Jay is really vociferous. Hates
the fact that the you know, the people that don't
like the Toush push and want the Toush push to stay.
I think it should stay. I love the Toush push.
(01:30):
I think it's a play that. Okay, the Eagles have
figured out a way to do so it's great. You
want innovation, like you want teams to be able to say, hey,
I'm innovating a way to do things right. The Patriots
at the forefront of that for a long time and.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
Figure out dog that dog eared rule book that malegihead
to the point where I think this formation is legal,
but you know what, we don't like it. Yeah. Against
the Ravens when they were managing no, no, this is by
the book, this is okay.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
For the penalties, he was able to say, I'll take
the five yard penalty on this punt and that's gonna
better for us.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
Right.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
Certain things he would do, you know, math and there
was stuff with the play clock that Belichicks would do
to and you know what, but once it got to
a point where hey, this is not quite super legal,
that's when all those things went away. And that's why
I say the biggest thing, the best thing that the
the haters do is say, hey, we're now bringing up
that and Dean Blandino, Dean Blandino's gonna be the guy
(02:23):
that gets his play band right because he's the one
that was the loudest on Sunday, you know, former director officiating.
He's everywhere, Hey, this play is really hard to officiate.
I'm done with it. WHOA Okay? Now that that's the
narrative like it's it's got a shelf life on it
of this season and that's it like that. That's why
that's why I brought up at the end of our
conversation with Jay, the question of if it does get
officiated quote properly right. Again, it's difficult for the officials,
(02:49):
but say they do call those false starts that everybody
was quick to get the overhead and say, there it is.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
See those guys move that guy the right tackle. He
was a if those are now penalties and we see
maybe every other every third time they try to run it,
they've run it eight times. Ready they get penalized the
five yards for a false start. Does it fix itself
to where it's all right? Now? The math is much
different than hey, we're getting at a ninety seven percent clip.
(03:18):
So maybe you fix the glitch that way and you
actually don't have to put a rule in Ellen.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
Just think about if you're the owners they have to
vote on this thing in the offseason, is they're gonna say,
we're gonna vote on this again. You know what, Fine,
I'm done. I'm done. I'm done like Dean Bland Doudo,
I'm done with the touch person. There's gonna be that
fatigue as well that this continues to be a story
and owners are.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
Gonna say, Okay, we're done. Okay, you're And it could
be just as simple as okay they have a tough
time officiating it.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
I'm done, like I've already made my decision. No matter
what happens the rest of the year, this is it.
In the NFL is saying they're gonna officiate it tighter
on Sunday. That was a big story tonight. They told
the officials, hey, when you do this game that hockey ly,
you know, make sure that this is what happens. I mean,
you know, you know it's done, Like how many, how
many plays? How many iterations of it?
Speaker 2 (04:03):
Do you think Sean McVay sent to the league office
to point out false starts, misalignments, Igali, I.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
Would love for the first play and we'll talk Eagles
Rams tomorrow night, one of the biggest games of the week.
I would love first play at Eagles Rams. They run
the toush push first intent. We're gonna run it just
because we can.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
Now if they run it back and they win at
Levi Stadium, they win another Super Bowl, but then it
gets banned. Yeah, do they build a statue to the
tush point? No? No, no, no no.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
Then there's an asterisk because they used a rule that
has since been banned to win the Super Bowl. And
then you walk up and you press a button and
it plays something from Sir Mix a Lot. I like
big Butts and I cat What else from Sir Mix
a Lot is it's a lot of songs about ass
you say something, Really, can you name one other song
other than Baby.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
Got Back Put Them on the Glass. That's a real song.
You sure just make that up? You just made that up?
Actually showed up in a playlist because I'm riding around
with my daughters. What's the name of the song? Put
them on the Glass.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
I like big Glass and I cannot lie you win
next people can't deny.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
I mean, glass does rhyme with ass, but I mean
this one is a little more about the other end.
So we got more football coming up in a few minutes.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
We will get to the Bills and the Dolphins big
takeaways from Thursday Night football. But today we saw the
announced retirement of Clayton Kershaw, Dodger superstar who said, this
is it for me, retiring at the end of the year.
And two big things to get into in the next
couple of minutes as we hear what he had to
say in his press conference today. Number one is, oh, man,
(05:39):
I don't know when the moment's gonna be, but there's
gonna be a moment between now and the game tomorrow
because tomorrow is Kershaw's last home start of his career,
like in theory, because they do have the playoffs, and
I'm sure Kershaw will pitch in the playoffs somewhere. Sure, right,
you have a good enough season to be on the
postseason roster. Healthy, Yet he's gonna pitch at some point.
(06:01):
But you're looking at the game tomorrow, being his last
home start, you would think he's gonna pitch one more time.
But maybe they say, you know what, we're gonna keep
your fresh here last game Dodger Stadium. We're gonna keep
your fresh for the playoffs. And that's it. Like that's
all we're gonna wed tomorrow might be it.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
Would the other one would be uh, on the road
at Seattle, maybe yeah, him against the cal Raley.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
But uh, at some point between now and the game
time tomorrow, fans across the country are gonna sit back
and realize, Wait, this game's only on Apple TV. I
can't I can only get the game on Apple TV.
I don't have it. I don't want to spend that money.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
What the hell is going on? It's Apple TV? Come on, man,
what is Apple TV? Who is Apple Tree? What is
Apple TV? Can you explain that to me? According to
a quick review, uh, it claims there's over forty five
million paid subscribers. It's a lot, a lot more people
than I would have thought.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
Yeah, yeah, when what will you think of like ESPN
and f S one or like ninety ninety five?
Speaker 2 (07:06):
No, no, but forty five millions. Still, I wouldn't have
thought it was that. I so good for them. Wo man,
But I mean you can get ted Lasso Severance, and
I just want to see Kirkshaw's Last Start. Severance is
too slow. I don't like the pacing. Cough up a buck,
you cheap. I can't watch Kirkshaw's Last Star. Hey, it's
(07:29):
gonna brought Hey by any chance you have Apple TV?
Oh yeah, yeah, good, I'm coming over. Well wait, I'm
coming over watching Kershaw's Last Start. Man, you bring me
enough food you can watch. Okay, I charged how many
a couple of guys at my passwords. I'm gonna be
maxed down. I'm gonna try to log in and they're
gonna say this, you're on too many logins.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
But if anybody calls you tomorrow and asks if we
have Apple TV, you tell them no, tell them no,
we don't have it.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
I want to watch them squirm. But yeah, no, certainly
the Friday Night package. We've seen this over the course
of the year. A number of big games are like
start of a series or someone going to extend to
streak or whatever. It's like, Wait, that game's only on Athlete.
It's like, yeah, that's it Friday night. Sorry, buddy.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
Now, we got a big take on Kershaw coming up
in a couple of minutes, But how about we hear
from him a little bit of what he had to
say today at his press conference. The greatest left handed
picture that I have ever seen. Calling it quits the
end of this season. Here he was talking about it
earlier today.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
This is weird.
Speaker 4 (08:26):
I have a lot of thank you to get through,
and I'm not I don't. I can't have time today
to do a justice for all the people that have
helped me along the way and got me to this point.
So today I'm just gonna gonna keep it short and
sweet and then you know, be able to really tell
people just how grateful I am for everybody that's in
this organization, that's in this room, that's been here later on.
(08:49):
But yeah, I'm gonna I'm gonna call it. I'm gonna retire.
We've talked about a lot, ell and I talked about
a lot. Kiddo's talks about it a lot, and I
met peace with it. I think it's I think it's
the right time. And it's been a it's been such
a fun year. I've had such a blast with this group.
I've had such a blast with all you guys. So yeah,
(09:14):
I can't think of a better season to go it out,
go out, And we still have a lot to accomplish
obviously this month, and the last thing I want to
do is be a distraction to anybody for accomplishing our
ultimate goal to win in the last game of the season.
So we're going to get through this today and then
we're going to go win the rest of the games
and be good. But just a few thank yous, Mark
(09:37):
and Todd and Ownership, thank you guys so much for
everything that you've done for me. And Andrew Gomer Slater's,
Slate's front office, stay in Lon, everybody, Thank you guys.
You've done so much for me and my family. And
then I don't know where Doc is, but Doc, and
thanks Doc, and uh the whole coaching staff, Thank you guys.
(09:57):
I know I'm a pain sometimes, so thank you. Thank
you for putting up with me. And then Thomas and Possum,
whole training staff. You guys are the best, so thank
you for helping me get this carcass out on the
field every fifth day and appreciate it and then uh,
you know travyav strength guys. You know there's a whole
(10:19):
article about my bowl now, So thank you guys for
helping me with that Ali Clubhouse guys. You guys are unbelievable.
Everything you do for this team, y'all are at the
glue for real. So thank you guys.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
So there are people he left out like that was
that was longer than anybody.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
That won an Oscar. Well no, I mean like he
was going person for person on this team, and eventually
I think he's going to do a three hour block
like he's at an award show and they keep trying
to play him off, going no, no, I'm only up
to two thoy fourteen, shut up. I want to thank
my agent, Ari Gold. I want to thank everybody at
Leviathan Pictures and of course our wonderful director Steven Spielberg.
(10:58):
I mean, I don't know what else to say. All
my all, my fellow nominees, my co stars, to the
people in Craft Service, A hey, those to the gaffer,
those finger sandwiches were great, The cucumber and the mayonnaise
were perfect. To the best boy and his understudy, what's
the key grip do? Set? Up lights, but all of that,
like he just kept going and like talking about the
(11:19):
clubhouse guys and and all the way down and you
just saw that that smile and a couple of times
he starts to lose it, like you love to see
a guy who's been characterized as the reddest ass of
Oh yeah, right, seven eleven. What do you need seven eleven?
I pitched at seven ten.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
That's right, as I know, I was a pain in
the ass that Yeah, if I don't throw the first
pitch at seven ten, I think I'm actually.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
Gonna get that on a shirt. Seven ten. No, they
thank thank you for putting up with me. I know,
I'm that.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
Could that could that could serve so many different meanings.
Yeah yeah, well is that oh that's not you a
personal message? Oh oh god it but it could play
it No, just in general, I mean take it, take
it as you will. Can be walking my dog.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
You decide I'm a pain in the neck that day.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
I'll tell you what, when you think about Clayton Kershaw's career,
there's so many things that come to mind, right, and
we'll get to the playoff part of it coming up
later on this hour. But everything he's accomplished as great
as he has been, getting best left handed pitcher that
I've ever seen, better than Randy Johnson, better than Tom Glavin,
best left handed pitch I've ever seen. When you say
Clayton Kershaw to me, the image that I will always
(12:27):
have the first optic in my head is this, And
this shows you. This tells you why he was so great.
Is the first pitch of an at bat. His ability
to throw his curve or his curve with a slider
grip or a slider with that, you know, he's always
kind of cagy about here's how I hold this.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
It's kind of my slider. It's kind of my curve.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
But being able to throw that pitch over the plate
for a strike on the black where the hitter just
can't get to it but it breaks so late right
on the black, or hey, i'll give you one on
the middle of the plate because I know you're not
going to be able to hit it. That's such an
unbelievable advantage for Kershaw to have, not only look starting
(13:11):
off at oh to one, but not throwing a fastball
for that first pitch, which a lot of pitchers do.
I try to throw something a little bit harder, a
little bit off the plate, or sometimes when we know
we're in a time in baseball history where everybody's taking
the first pitch, I'm not able to throw it right
down the middle, but Kershaw being able to throw that
and having it break over the plate where the hitter
(13:31):
has no chance to hit that right has no chance
to hit it, and you start ohen one and the
hitter is saying, Okay, what am I waiting for now?
Because it's not like Kershaw through ninety eight, ninety ninety
through mid nineties, right, which was still really really good,
but look, left handed pitchers don't generally throw that hard.
Randy Johnson was the was the exception of that. You,
but being able to have that kind of control over
(13:53):
those pitches, like, I can't tell you what kind of
advantage that is, And it's just amazing that I would
see it and go just snap it right off every
single time and here and it's not like a like
like a hitter would be able to hit it and do.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
Damage with it.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
Like if a hitter said, okay, if I'm getting that
curve or that slider, that slider with the curve with
a with a slider grip or whatever it was. If
I'm getting that, I'm gonna swing at that first pitch,
what are you gonna do?
Speaker 2 (14:17):
You're gonna hit something weak to the right side.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
You need to get into the at bat and hope
that Kershaw misses on a location because those pitches are
impossible to hit, and that advantage was so huge for
him starting out so c and if he's behind in
the count, I'm gonna throw that pitch for a strike,
be able to throw your curve for a strike that's unhittable,
that doesn't rush to that pitch right and it doesn't hang.
(14:41):
It's a twelve to six, it doesn't hang. It's not
gonna be something where uh oh that it's gonna mistake
is gonna be in the seats, throwing that pitch, first pitch,
wherever in the at bat.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
But just my image of him is.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
Okay, Kershaw, here's Alonso, there's a curve strike one like great,
here we are, and now the success rate for Kershaw
his way up. And now suddenly Alonzo goes from when
it's one and oh, he's hitting three twenty two. When
it's oh to one, he's hitting two oh seven, which
is what every hitter does. Right whenever, Just like the
the Jonah Hill line from Moneyball, every pitch is like
a hand of blackjack, your odds changed. And Kershaw always
(15:15):
being able to throw a strike on that pitch and
an unhittable strike is just mind blowing him that that's
always gonna be the image and the option. You say
Clayton Kershaw's name, it's him snapping that off for strike one.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
Yeah, the curveball, certainly first part I joke about the
red ass, but that like, that's always it. So when
you get the glimpses of the back and forth, and
it would have been blested out here in La five
seventy l LA Sports being our home here in Los
Angeles for Fox Sports Radio and our connection to the Dodgers,
(15:45):
you know, when you do get him with vasse a
or with the guys on air and joking a little bit,
it breaks that that fourth wall for a minute, because
otherwise it's all right, this guy's going to work right.
It's like the guys I always loved with the White Sox,
where the guys like Mark Burley, I'm getting the ball
and I'm going back to work right. And that's Clayton
Kershaw to a t through his eighteen years that we've
(16:07):
watched him evolve to this final season and what he
is as a clubhouse leader and everything else. But yeah,
the curveball is the first and lasting, indelible image to
all of it. Snapping that off and then giving the
rye smile like all right, I got you, now let's play,
and watching the catcher go along for the ride, and
then staring down Dave Roberts keeping him in the dugout,
(16:29):
or watching Dave Roberts sheepishly have to send someone down
to ask Clayton if he wants to go back for
another inning. All of those little thing glimpses that we've
gotten through the years. But yeah, it's the evolution of this.
And look crafty, Southpaw. I was a junk baller once
upon a time, so respecting the craft when you don't
always have an overwhelming pitch like we talk about with
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Johnson coming in at ninety eight miles an hour tour,
even in an All Star game, you got guys joking around,
changing their helmet, changing their stand. It's John Cruck and
he one of the great back and forth ever. But
you know that intimidation factor, it was no you just
have to try to outwork him. Then most of the
time you came.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
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Speaker 2 (18:51):
Remember when he was fun? Remember when Balmer said I
was I was duped? And Pablo Torri keeps coming out with, hey,
I got paperwork right here that says you got all
new about it. Here's another thirty million you got duped
out of. I think it's up to like one hundred
and eighteen million or something like that. The last number
Pamlo Tory finds out about everything. How many more pages
(19:11):
does he have? Does he have a little mountain of paperwork?
Speaker 1 (19:14):
I know, man, I just hope he's got enough work
here to stay away from Jalen Brunson in the Knicks. Okay,
just let's stay stay away man. That's going to turn
out to be the biggest mistake. And now just trying
to see this out here, the whole Kawhi Leonard getting
all kinds of money so the Clippers can circumvent the
salary cap. When when Steve Balmer went on Sports Center,
(19:37):
like the day after this broke and said, Hey, I
was duped.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
I was duped.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
I'm just a businessman worth all kinds of billions of
dollars to make big time smart decisions. But I got
duped by a guy. Now it doesn't mean you can't
make a bad decision. And trust somebody, say, how did
you not get b roll of him? Just planting one
damn tree?
Speaker 2 (19:54):
One tree? That's all you needed to do. Kawhi, We're
putting a shovel in your hand for four minutes. This
this guy's gonna film it. It will live forever.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
And here's what you gonna bring a couple of different
shirts so it looks like you're doing.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
That's it's all you. That's all you gotta do. A
couple of polos. Here's an extra pair of kicks.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
Let's go bring five shirts for twenty eight million dollars.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
Hey, I can do that, but tell you what, we'll
supply the shirt.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
I mean seeing the interview and seeing the information that
Pablo Tory had today about how hey, here's the money
that went through and here's the letter from the Clippers
acknowledging the money. Like that's gonna wind up being the
worst thing. Balmer saying I was duped. Like that's like,
that's the most about I was duped.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
I didn't know.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
I didn't know anything about this. But here's all these
signed documents, here's all this stuff come about.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
Yeah, I don't know. I was duped. You know what
people can do with docu signed these days. I was duped.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
So there's a hot take we've talked built that there's
a lot of toilets there, you know, flush them all
at once. There's a hot take we've talked about tonight
that I said is ridiculous. Now gonna take it to
the next level. Okay, here we go, So.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
We'll get to two in a couple of minutes. That
was my best back draft. That was good. I like that.
That was good. That was good. Did the fire look
at you.
Speaker 1 (21:07):
It looked at you, didn't it It looked at you.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
Were you the one on top of the fire engine
with Jennifer Jason Lee?
Speaker 1 (21:14):
Was not?
Speaker 2 (21:14):
Was that you? Was that the other Baldwin guy? Was?
Was that a prequel to him becoming presidents? No? Eight?
Speaker 1 (21:22):
So the Fever win their first round of the playoffs tonight,
right the Lever, They eliminate the dream. Of course, we
know they're playing without a lot of their stars, including
Caitlin Clark, who is the WNBA and I told you
you're gonna get the hot takers coming up. People are
fighting with themselves right now to be the first ones
in the next few hours to say the Fever are
(21:44):
better without Caitlin Clark. Okay, the Fever are better without
Caitlin Clark, right, which is ridiculous. She's a top five
player in the game. Nobody is better off without a
top five player. You wouldn't say that about anybody else
in the NBA. If the Bucks start winning, you wouldn't
say they're better off without Giannis if he was out,
you wouldn't do that, right. You wouldn't say, oh, the
Sixers are better without him beat Oh wait wait, bad,
(22:05):
bad point. You wouldn't say the Warriors are better without
Steph Curry, Right, you wouldn't say that. But because people
still want to hate on Kitling Clark, that that that's
gonna be a narrative. Now, I'll flip that on its head. Now,
is that is that an absolute truth? They got the
Aces coming up next, right, and the Aces won what
eighteen of their last nineteen game? They were a much
tougher first round that you expected. But uh, you know, clearly,
(22:27):
Asia Wilson. You know, look, still best player in the WNBA.
Not gonna win MVP this year, but still is the
best the best player has been the best player. If
the Fever win the title, Okay, if the Fever win
the title, that would change the argument because if you
can win a title without playing with your best player,
(22:48):
not just hey we had a run for a couple
of rounds in the playoffs without our best player. We
found a way to win because it was a short
amount of time. This is they played the vast majority
of the season and the entirety of the postseason without.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
Caitlyn what thirteen games?
Speaker 4 (23:04):
Right?
Speaker 1 (23:05):
Yeah, if they win the title, I'll tell you that's
when that hot take becomes legit. Because if you've seen
teams win championships where a guy gets hurt and a
team goes on and win time, Right, the Giants won
a Super Bowl with Jeff Hosteller, who is their backup quarterback,
beause Phil Simms got hurt, but he plays well in
a couple of games. Right, we watched the Eagles win
the Super Bowl. Carson Wentz was an MVP candidate, probably
(23:27):
gonna win it, but he gets hurt. Nick Foles plays
a couple of games in the regular season. Eagles get
hot in the playoffs. They win the super Bowl. We've
seen that, but this is the entire season and the
entirety of the playoffs. They win the title, then that hot,
then that hot take changes, then that can change.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
Otysea Sims in the final seven seconds, finding a wide
open a Leah Boston for a layup and then hitting
a free throw to ice at two point win. Ready
fun with odds your favorite the Links minus one forty five,
followed by the Aces You get plus money plus one
seventy nine okay, followed by the Liberty, Liberty, Liberty, and
(24:06):
the Phoenix, both at fourteen to one. Okay, You're Indiana Fever.
Yeah plus seventy five hundred. Let's bleep and go one
of my odds.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
Caitlin Clark changes her mind and comes back at some
point in the play.
Speaker 5 (24:19):
Oh, I know it's I'm ready.
Speaker 2 (24:21):
No, I feel pretty good. I feel really I don't
think I have those, but we'll ask. I might go
for it.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
It's like in a meaning of life, bring out your dead.
I might go for a walk today. No, you're dead.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
You're dead. Not feeling better? No, no, no, you's only
a flesh wound. No, you're dead.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
Yeah. So again that's where that hot take change. I
love that a little bit.
Speaker 2 (24:38):
But even after tonight, folks getting a little get ready,
get ready? Okay, you want two out of three?
Speaker 1 (24:43):
Okay, you remember you won two out of three, two
out of three and head No, I didn't TJ.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
Clearly, as meat Loaf told us back in nineteen seventy seven,
Paradise is by the dashboard life fantastic fantasy baseball player,
by the way, was meat Loaf? Uh?
Speaker 1 (24:58):
You mean owner fantasy bait? Like you owned a team?
And oh you said fantasy bait. I'm like I never had.
I never had meat Loaf in any of my fantasy
I never drafted Meatloaf.
Speaker 2 (25:09):
He was. It was a fantastic addition to every rock
and jockey ever participated him. Who's your first pick? I
was gonna take Bryce Harper, but I'm taking meat Loaf instead.
With my second pick, I'm taking Rick Darringer, Hey Blake Meetloaf.
I'm taking Jim Steinman with my second pick. What he
does without the right or brains by uh No.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
First Thursday Night football goes to the Buffalo Bills, and
for the Dolphins, I give them credit because this game
was way closer than.
Speaker 2 (25:45):
It should I said last night.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
If they win this game, it's the biggest upset of
the twenty twenties. As bad as the Dolphins have started
this season, they're the number. They're team number thirty two
in the NFL for a reason because other teams are
bad like they are. But these other teams have all
cleared the decks and are starting over now, and they're saying, Okay,
this is our settling year. We get back at it
next year, right. Teams like the Jets and the Browns
they said, listen, we've we've done the clean out. We're
(26:09):
starting over. Seeing a bit of that hard reset. Absolutely,
the Dolphins still have that hard reset ahead of them
after this year, and then next year will be their
year one of the reset. So that's why they're team
number thirty two. And yeah, it's easy to say Mike
McDaniel's going to be gone because he is Tyreek Kill
will get traded because he is. But you're seeing this
(26:29):
to be the last year in Miami for two a
tongue of Vailoa. And it's not just because of the
interception tonight, which was an awful throw and it's something
that honestly, he's got to know better for because he
throws this pick. Look, they're down by a touchdown, they're
driving late, and you mentioned it earlier in the show.
He's going back and he's trying to throw a pass
over the middle. He does not have the arm to
(26:50):
do that. He barely has the arm to go downfield.
Other quarterbacks have the arm. I really wish. I can't
remember who the quarterback we saw was on a Monday
or Thursday game in the last couple of weeks where
going backwards they were still able to zing that ball
into the flat and hit the running back in stride
for a fifteen yard game, right, And you have to
have the arm to do something like that, Tua backing up,
(27:10):
throwing the ball over the middle of the field gets
picked off by Bernard, and you know, Bernard just just
baited him into it, thinking that, Okay, he doesn't see me,
doesn't see it.
Speaker 2 (27:20):
You can't do that if you're toa because you don't
have the arm for it. Now, Miami's been able to
game plan around it and at times figure out the
best of Tua, but as we've said, Tua's never really
gotten the hug of being the clear cut franchise guy,
even though he has the big contract. And if you're
moving on after this year again, new head coach, new
offensive philosophy, because Mike mc daniel kimin saying we're gonna
(27:42):
do this, this, this, We're gonna be fast, We'll be
the fastest team in the NFL.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
Whoever comes and new is gonna say, I want my
new guy, I want my own guy. And so and
the fact that Tua is really he's been diminishing the
last couple of years because the offense isn't nearly what
it was a couple of years. Like eighteen months ago,
this offense was taken the NFL by storm, and it
was a new way, we're gonna be faster than everybody
and the way to a processes the field. He's gonna
(28:06):
be able to really excel in this. They're not dynamic anymore.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
To it.
Speaker 1 (28:10):
Threw for one hundred and thirty yards tonight. They don't
even run Devon ah Chan doesn't run for one hundred
and twenty yards like he did two years ago. This
is it's not the same offense. And Tua's become kind
of just a guy. And so it's not gonna be
the case where they where they release him here because
the dead cat money is too bad. He still owed
a lot of money for next year and if you
want to keep him because he's got the out after
(28:30):
twenty twenty six. But some team is gonna say, hey,
we can do a lot worse than to it. We've
seen him flash right in the league where they make
starters in the right systems out of Gino Smith and
Sam Darnold Baker, Mayfield is now an elite quarterback. He
just had to find the right system. There's gonna be
some some mad scientists head coaches that say, yeah, I
(28:50):
can make two into a star again. Sean McVay might
be a guy that says something like that, if JJ
McCarthy's terrible, Kevin O'Connell might say something like that, Right,
we've seen Tua have better years than some of those
guys I just mentioned. So yeah, there's gonna be teams
out there for him. You can always figure out the money. Again,
it's not a long term thing with Tua. With the
money that he's due, you can figure that out. It's
(29:12):
not gonna be worth a lot draft pick wise, compensation wise,
it's gonna be Miami needs to start over. And if
you're drafting at the top, you're drafting Garrett Nussmeyer, you're
drafting Arch Manning, you're doing something at the top of
that draft, you're drafting Lenora's Sellers, whoever it is. You're
drafting someone that high you're going to trade to because
you're gonna need that fresh start. And again, good news
for the guy is there will be teams out there
(29:33):
saying we're okay with it, and as long as we're
figure out the money, which you can, because you know, look,
Russell Wilson had a lot of money.
Speaker 2 (29:40):
He's untradeable. He got traded.
Speaker 1 (29:41):
Aaron Rodgers do a lot of money untradably. He got traded.
The money is there to fix, to fix, and it's
gonna be. It's gonna be the Dolphins deciding we're just
gonna move on for a fresh start. We're not worried
about the compensation. We tried to make it work, it
didn't to it gets a fresh start. We love the guy,
and his injury history is something that we're still gonna
be a little nervous about as well. There will be
that that market forum because you're not into tour for
(30:03):
more than a year or so, and maybe you turn
him into something and.
Speaker 2 (30:07):
If not, well, we didn't give up a lot for him.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
We figured out the money and we'll start over with
with a quarterback the year after that. So yeah, he's
going to be tradeable. There's gonna be teams that want him.
And honestly, if you're the Dolphins, you kind of have
to because when you think, when you think about the
landscape of a new coach and knew everything that's gonna
be coming in, it's okay, we're gonna try to make it.
I'm gonna try to make it work with a guy
(30:29):
that has real flaws. His arm strength is not great.
You know, I don't know that he's dynamic anymore. We're
gonna make it work with him just for a season,
just being a guy. Okay, We're we're you're we're setting
back our reset because you're setting back your reset for
a year because your new coach is gonna want to
come in and say, Okay, next year is our year
to reset, and then we're taking off. If you give
him to it next year, it's gonna be okay, well
(30:50):
we kind of come in, We're gonna take a year
to reset with to it. Then our resets you then
you're talking about you reset being three years away.
Speaker 2 (30:57):
No one's gonna do.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
That's why the Jets decided, hey, Aaron Rodgers were moving
on because if this doesn't work with Justin Fields, we'll
get a quarterback after the draft this year. But if
we move on from Aaron Rodgers, if we keep them
for another year, then we're moving on. Then we're getting
a bridge guy, and then we're getting No, we're not
going to postpone the future.
Speaker 2 (31:14):
So you see all that, you understand two was going
to be gone after the season. Yeah, I'll be curious
as we flow into the season. Obviously, the difficult start
and they've been they've fought pretty well after giving up
an early lead to New England. They battled at least
and then you have this game tonight and get a
big kickoff return, take the opening drive. All of that
fine and good. You know what's funny is a lot
(31:36):
of the talk that we've had and one of the
great threads through the offseason and in the regular season
is my train wreck of a situation to most as
related to the Bears. Two of fits a lot of
what you bet Johnson and coaches of his ilk K
want right, play on time, deliver the ball and go.
(31:59):
But the armstrong obviously, the one thing that's the caveat,
and that's the thing with McDaniel is that you had
those advantages. Now. Is Tyreek Hill still fast? Yeah? Is
he's still as fast as he was two years ago.
I don't know. I haven't clocked him running forties and
deep balls a lot, but certainly that timing has been
taken away. Right, You've got to have that next pitch.
We're talking about kershaw and developing and refining and becoming
(32:22):
more of a pitcher as you get older, as guys do,
versus being all right, it can be a good thrower
and occasionally hit the spot. No, you've got to be better.
Likewise as a quarterback, you've got to be able to
do it. The moon balls and everything are fine, but
for to a tongue of aloa, you know, driving the
ball into a spot right, the interception that he throws,
if he can put that on a rope, it's a
(32:43):
completion and we get to see what the end of
that drive is. Instead it's thrown to an area to
go run under it. Well, defender's going to have a
break on it and make a play, and so those
timing issues are going to be off. So a chan
Tyreek Hill pending his off field stuff and everything else.
Like these guys will all be gone and traded for
assets for next year's draft. And that becomes the question
(33:07):
with two, are you rebuilding with him? I'm gonna guess not.
To your point, find that partner that thinks they can
fix him, the quarterback whisper as it were McVeigh or whomever,
and you move on from there.
Speaker 1 (33:19):
Exit out a bout a fresca, exit swollen down the
Jason Smith Show with my best.
Speaker 2 (33:24):
Friend Mike Carmon. I mean, in the right set.
Speaker 1 (33:26):
Look, there's always a right system for someone there's always
and that's why I'm kind of bullish on his next
start somewhere as long as he can stay healthy, because
a team that's gonna trade from is not just hey,
we need a quarterback, let's go get him. It's gonna
be hey, he would really work in our system because
we can do X Y, and it's got to be
a team with a strong head coach like a Sean McVay,
because you know what, they want to move on from
(33:47):
Matthew Stafford. They're likely gonna move on from him after
this year because of all the every year, I don't
know if I'm gonna play, it's more money. Now he's injured,
and they want to get get out from him a
year or two early rather than the y or too late.
But it's gonna but there will be a biggest, established
coach that you know, maybe one of the young the
young guns in the League's that not I know what
to do with him and we can make it work.
Speaker 2 (34:06):
But that's the curiosity, right. How many teams are long
form to where you have that level of stability. It's
a handful. You have the offensive line that's going to
keep him up right when he plays right. We know
the accuracy is there, Like, that's what it is. It's
about timing, It's about accuracy. Is completion rate usually one
of the tops in the league. Problem is, we've only
got one game with a proof of concept beyond thirteen
(34:29):
games played.
Speaker 1 (34:31):
Exit ut about a Fresco exit swollen dome. Jason Smith,
Mike Harmon coming up next.
Speaker 2 (34:35):
Yeah, we get a little bit more from the NFL.
But a hot take on Clayton Kershaw's retirement. That isn't
gonna go the way you think. Now give me that again.
That's next Fox. It's ten years too late. Wow.
Speaker 5 (34:50):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
pm Pacific.
Speaker 1 (34:58):
We'll got that big hot take from Clayton on Clayton
Kershaw coming up in a second but story. Today, Ian
Rappaport NFL Network talked about this and some other sources
that maybe Kirk Cousins is done, that there's not a
lot of interest in other teams training for.
Speaker 2 (35:15):
Him, and maybe he's not gonna be a starting quarterback
ever again in the NFL. Now, is it because of
his contract?
Speaker 1 (35:23):
Clearly some of it is because of his contract. But
the talent level wise, you don't know, because clearly with
some teams having injuries, you would think they would have
at least had exploratory calls with the Falcons going, hey,
we're not here quite yet, but what would you think?
What would you do for for Kirk Cousins? And no
one's called the Falcons yet, And you know, I gotta
(35:44):
think at this point, unless Cousin says, listen, tear up
my contract, I'll do something new, he's just gonna sit
there and collect whatever he can from the Falcons until
they release him or buy him out, and that's gonna
be it.
Speaker 2 (35:56):
Base twenty seven this year twelve five, signing his cap
hit of forty million dollars, So there you have it.
Dead cap money was seventy five million. So all this
off season it became the all right, how much can
you get Arthur Blank and company to off set to
(36:17):
make it happen? Well, nothing transpired, get a couple of
guys hurt, and I'm sure he was salivating until he realized, well,
Brock Purty may be back this week. JJ McCarthy's a
couple of weeks, but you have Carson Wentz. So they've
got it established backup Joe Burrow, but Browning's been there
a couple of years, and you saw he was winging
(36:38):
it around just fine receivers and Chase brown I'll help
bail you out there. So yeah, not gonna be a
lot of interest. You gotta wait for that next round
of injuries, perhaps someone getting really desperate.
Speaker 1 (36:51):
Now to Clayton Kershaw and the retirement announcement, Today's last
start at Dodger Stadium tomorrow night on Apple TV.
Speaker 2 (37:00):
Can't wait watch it if you can. I got my
log in, Benny. Evidently you get you get an account
if you buy a new iPhone. Oh okay, get someone
on Twitter. So I've not corroborated that, but that's why
he estimated, which gets us to that forty five million.
Speaker 1 (37:13):
Number instead instead of just spending ten dollars on Apple Plus.
No I buy a new iPhone for five or six hundred.
Speaker 2 (37:19):
If I get my eight hundred dollars phone, they're gonna
give you my ten bucks a month. Aha. All right? Yeah,
see how I screwed them over math this math and
benne So.
Speaker 1 (37:29):
Part of Kershaw's legacy, obviously is his playoff performance, which
not quite nearly what it was in the regular season.
But it's unfair to use that and say, ah, Kershaw's overrated.
Here's why it's unfair, and why a bit of a
hot take, because you can't really do that in the postseason.
Clayton Kershaw is a five hundred pitcher. His era is
(37:52):
about four and a half thirteen and thirteen four forty nine. Yeah,
it's it's not awful. He's not two and fourteen with
an ear eight. He's had some big games. He's had
some games where he didn't pitch well.
Speaker 2 (38:03):
Right. I think if he pitched.
Speaker 1 (38:04):
Well and some more winner go home games, maybe it
would be different, right, just a couple more, it would
flip his legacy. But he's not been terrible, right, He's
not potent. It's almost like Payoe peyton manners.
Speaker 2 (38:14):
But no.
Speaker 1 (38:14):
Peyton Man's record of the playoffs was about five hundred.
He was pretty He had some bad games, but he
had great games. He won Super Bowls. The reason I
say this is because now, Kershaw, you want to go
eighteen years back to the late two thousands, right, give
me a guy, Give me any starting pitcher in the
last eighteen to twenty years not named Madison, Bumgardner that
(38:35):
you would say, that's the guy I want on the
hill for a playoff game.
Speaker 2 (38:39):
I would say this, and we got some great feedback
over the course of the show. Appreciate it at how
about a fresca at Swollen Dome at Fox Sports Radio
that you go down the CV and a couple of
folks were bringing in guys that were slight overlaps into
the Kershaw era. Remember enters the league in two thousand
and eight. Well, Pedro Martinez doesn't count because he retired
a year later, so we don't want him. Uh. We
(39:00):
talked about Shilling again, that's earlier, right, That's the Andy
just era was earlier. All of that. So you got Bumgarner,
who you mentioned eight and three Bumgarner phenomenal, right, I
can't argue with that. Sixteen appearances, but not nearly the
picture that Kershaw was in the regular sho that's just it.
And just trying to grab a couple of postseason pitchers
justin Verlanders seventeen and twelve, three five eight E R.
(39:23):
Kershaw again, the thirteen thirteen, four four nine, four point
eight one eight strikeouts per walk, all of those things. C. C.
Sabbathia ten and seven four two eight. Yeah, I mean
then and then I got I got one guy that
I would say, okay, let's you can have the discussion.
But again, give me the largest of what Kershaw was
is Garrett Cole eleven and six two seventy seven for
(39:44):
his playoff and forgot to cover first base. Remember that
that that took that e ra in that record and
turns it to he's six and twenty five with the
era of eleven and I never won a damn game
that mattered.
Speaker 1 (39:56):
But my point is is that look at all those
guys he said, none of them are under beatable, none of.
Speaker 2 (40:01):
Them are blowing away the numbers. That it's a bygone
era of the stud pitcher. You have pitching game one,
game four, Game seven is gonna go seven innings and
give you shutout ball and you're gonna win that game.
That's not the way baseball is anymore. So if you'd
be fair about Kurt, no, Kershaw was an average pitcher
in the posts. Again, I would have love him to.
Speaker 1 (40:19):
Be better, But it's unfair to say, oh, all the
playoff failures because nobody else had great. Look, I said,
best left handed pitcher ever Randy Johnson Randy Johnson under
five hundred the playoffs ra was near four. It's unfair
to blame Kershaw for that because nobody else has been
able to pitch at the level you wanted Kershaw to
pitch that, so that criticism overall, now you look at
(40:39):
his career as totality the last twenty years.
Speaker 2 (40:41):
This is how baseball is. It's unfair, but it goes
back to the Peyton Manning, Drew Brees, whomever else. And
while we can chuckle when you compare him to the
history of say Brady, you still gotta get there, and
they got you to the postseason. And for Clayton Kershaw,
that two run differential, yeah, that's but you still had
to get him into the dance.
Speaker 1 (41:04):
Exit out about a Fresca exit swollen Dome. Clayton Kershaw's
last out on Apple Tomorrow Night. Get your loggins ready.
Speaker 2 (41:11):
The Fever are better without Caitlin Clark.
Speaker 1 (41:14):
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